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Things have changed. From an image standpoint, he was in Jordan territory a couple years ago. Not anymore.
ESPN abruptly dumps salacious LeBron James party story (UPDATED with ESPN response)
Wed Jul 28,2010 11:45 AM ETBy Rick Chandler
If you were reading a rather provocative ESPN story about LeBron James partying at a Las Vegas night club, and now you're not, there's a reason for that. ESPN yanked the story off the Internets after only a few minutes of life. The piece by Arash Markazi, which actually appeared on ESPN's Los Angeles affiliate site, tells of a Roman banquet-style blowout following James' announcement of his move to Miami. As tell-all stories about a night with an NBA superstar go, this one was pretty tremendous. Excerpts:
A security guard comes over and puts plastic wristbands on our wrists and escorts us through the back of the restaurant, up a flight of stairs in the bowels of the hotel and through a back entrance into the club. About a dozen security guards, moving their flash lights, direct us to a roped off section on the dance floor of Tao next to a couple of apparently nude women in a bathtub full of water and rose petals.
Bottle after bottle of "Ace of Spades" champagne is delivered to the table by a waiter flying down from above the dance floor like some overgrown Peter Pan on a wire. One time he's dressed like a King, another time as Indiana Jones and another in a replica of James' No. 6 Miami Heat jersey.
James, who can hardly see the flying figure through his tinted glasses, almost gets kicked in the head on the waiter's last trip down. He looks at the girls around him and says, "I wish they'd have one of these girls with no panties do that instead of the guy."
Toward the end of the night, Boston Celtics forward Glen Davis walks past James' party and looks at the scene up and down several times like a painting in a museum, soaking in the images of the go-go dancers, the "King" sign and the costumed man delivering bottles of champagne.
Davis shakes his head and walks on.
UPDATE: ESPN response following the jump.
Five security guards are stationed around him, one at each corner of the table he's about to sit at and another roving around with him, watching his every move. Anyone who takes two steps toward James is stopped and must have James' approval to come closer.
The waiter bringing him his cup of green tea with a spoonful of honey and a dash of lemon juice makes the cut, as does the scantily clad brunette with a tattoo of a heart on her right shoulder.
She wants to take a picture with him. "I can't right now," says James. "Maybe later, upstairs, I'll remember you're the one with the tattoo."
Even though ESPN immediately moved to spike the story, the HTML version soon came out. Here it is (click to enlarge), thanks to the efforts of such people as Matthew LaWell and Chris Littman, two of several who posted links on their Twitter accounts. As the blog Waiting For Next Year points out, "The Internet always wins."
Carter, LeBron's childhood friend and manager, begins dancing around James like Puff Daddy in a Notorious B.I.G video. A giant red crown-shaped cake is brought over to James while go-go dancers dressed in skimpy red and black outfits raise four lettered placards that spell out, "KING." Carter grabs a bottle of Grey Goose and pours a quarter of it on the floor and raises it up before passing it off.
ESPN heavily invested in James with The Decision show, all the while insisting that there had been no blurring of the line between producing the TV spectacle and reporting the story. But now it appears that there may be a conflict of interest at play; Markazi's eyewitness account doesn't exactly show LeBron in the best light. He's a somewhat-married father of two, after all. Literally wading in Grey Goose? Waiters floating on wires? Naked chicks in bathtubs? Caligula is wondering if his invitation got lost in the mail.
Did the LeBron camp send orders to ESPN to yank the story? I've contacted ESPN for a response, and have heard only that they're "looking into it."
UPDATE: ESPN responds. In an email to Out of Bounds, an ESPN spokesman wrote:
"The story should have never been published. The draft was inadvertently put on the server before going through the usual editorial process. We are in the midst of looking into the matter."
UPDATE: From Sports Business Daily:
James' reps confirmed ESPN's statement that removing the article was an editorial decision, telling CNBC that they had no say in the matter. As of presstime, Markazi had not commented on the matter nor posted anything on his Twitter account in more than 24 hours.
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ESPN Mysteriously Pulls LeBron James Las Vegas Tell-All [Wait For Next Year]
A Kid in King James' court [ESPNLosAngeles.com]
http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/07/-espn-mysteriously-pulls.html.php
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If that story is true then I hate Lebron James more than I ever did. What an arrogant piece of shit he is. I'm not a hater but c'mon....You play basketball, you idiot. You're no mesiah.....You're no king......I knew he was an arrogant dick but this is over the top.
The KING... ::)
The fucking KING of what??? Douchebag. It's highly unlikely but I hope Lebron NEVER wins a championship. I just hope Lebron, Wade and Bosh combust.
The NBA is so different now with all these superstars wanting to play on the same team. I love when Jordan called this bullshit out a couple of weeks ago. Jordan never wanted to join Magic or Bird, even if was possible. Jordan wanted to flat-out beat those guys. Lebron will never have the competitive fire that Jordan had. He won't even even come close. Instead, he'll just climb on Wade's back because he's been to the mountain top already. Wade's probably laughing deep down knowing that Bosh and Lebron want what Wade already has.
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Magic and Bird criticized his move too. I don't have a problem with him joining Miami (or any other team). It's the way he did it that I have trouble with.
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LeBron is a great basketball player but I got to question his mentality.
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Some guy just got kicked out of a Cleveland Indians game for wearing a Lebron jersey. The whole stands was ragging this guy in the middle of the game. I heard to that they totally sold out of season tickets so they fired the ticket personel cause there was nothing else for them to do.
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the heat are becoming the most hated team in sports
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Until they win a championship. We sports fans are pretty shallow.
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The trio will not last, there will be issues, bosh is great trade bait, I dont expect this trio to be around for more then 2 years.
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Barkley owns him today
Pat McManamon
Senior NBA Writer
Charles Barkley weighed in Wednesday on a recent Twitter statement by LeBron James. Barkley, a TNT analyst and former NBA All-Star, said he hopes James remembers Barkley's critical comments and called a couple of James' more significant actions this summer "punk" moves.
"I heard about LeBron's little tweet today that he's remembering everybody who said anything bad about him," Barkley said Thursday on ESPN Radio 103.3 FM in Dallas/Fort Worth. "And he said 'everybody.' Well, I want him to make sure that he puts my name on that (list).
"I thought that his little one-hour special was a punk move. I thought them dancing around on the stage was a punk move, and I thought he should've stayed in Cleveland. Him joining Dwyane Wade's team was very disappointing to me."
Barkley spoke on "Galloway and Company," hosted by Randy Galloway, Ian Fitzsimmons and Matt Mosley. Barkley referred to a Twitter post by James -- under the name King James -- in which he said: "Don't think for one min that I haven't been taking mental notes of everyone taking shots at me this summer. And I mean everyone!"
James has been criticized for leaving Cleveland and for announcing it on a national TV special on ESPN set up by him and his handlers. He also was the subject of a story on ESPN.com about a birthday party in a Las Vegas club that sounded more hedonistic than humble. The story was later removed because ESPN said its reporter did not state clearly he was writing a story (the accuracy of the story was never questioned).
In addition to the TV special, Barkley also weighed in on a rally at American Airlines Arena where James, Chris Bosh and Wade were treated like rock stars and talked about themselves as arguably the greatest trio ever to play in the NBA and future winners of five, six, seven championships.
Galloway and his co-host chuckled at Barkley's remarks, then said they enjoyed the fact Barkley wanted James to include him on his list.
"He's got enough people kissing his ass with his family and all the people who work for him," Barkley said. "We don't have to tell him what he wants to hear all the time. That's one of the reasons why ... some of these young guys ... my opinion is he should have stayed in Cleveland.
"That one-hour special, them jumping around on stage like punks, that wasn't cool to me. From a basketball standpoint, I wish he had stayed in Cleveland, and if he takes that as criticism, so be it.
"He knows where I'll be, I don't run. I'm on TV every week, I'm easy to find."
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Poll: LeBron James' popularity dropsEmail Print Comments463 ESPN.com news services
Everyone Hates LeBron James?
LeBron James ranked sixth-most disliked figure in U.S. sports
LeBron James made two significant moves this NBA offseason -- from Cleveland to Miami in free agency, and way down the ladder in terms of being a well-liked pro athlete.
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Instead of his change to the Heat being seen as the best way he can win a championship, many have looked at it and how he chose to announce it as a selfish move.
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-- Henry Schafer, executive vice president of The Q Scores Company
The Q Scores Company, which conducts popularity polls, has James rated as the sixth-most-disliked figure in American pro sports. The results, known as "Q Scores," were reported Tuesday by CNBC.
According to the report, James is viewed in what the company considers a negative light by 39 percent of the general population. In January, while still a Cleveland Cavalier, he was viewed positively by 24 percent of the population, negatively by 22 percent, according to the figures from the Q Scores Company.
"LeBron's positive score at that time [January] was the highest we had ever seen it," Henry Schafer, executive vice president of Q Scores, told CNBC.
The company's current tally puts James' drop in positive rating in the last seven months at 41.5 percent. Q Scores considers James to be viewed in a positive light by only 14 percent of the people polled.
James has faced relentless criticism since announcing in a one-hour ESPN special in July that he was leaving the Cavaliers for the Miami Heat. Even Cavs owner Dan Gilbert got in on the act, calling James' decision "cowardly" and later saying he believes James quit during playoff games this year and in 2009.
"Instead of his change to the Heat being seen as the best way he can win a championship, many have looked at it and how he chose to announce it as a selfish move," Schafer told CNBC.
The top-five disliked sports personalities, according to the Q Scores Company (the demographic among those polled was not mentioned): Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick; golfer Tiger Woods; Cincinnati Bengals receivers Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco; and Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5575810
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No he didn't play the race card. ::) That fool has been a media darling for his entire career.
LeBron James, manager: Race a factor
ESPN.com news services
HURLBURT FIELD, Fla. -- LeBron James and his manager say they believe race played a factor in how the two-time reigning NBA MVP's decision to join the Miami Heat was covered this summer.
Neither James nor his manager, Maverick Carter, cited specifics when talking to CNN for a story that aired Wednesday night.
James did not want to spend much time on the subject after Thursday's Heat practice.
"I think people are looking too far into it," James said. "But at the same time, sometimes it does play a part in it. I've said what I had to say, and I'll continue to move on."
In the interview, CNN correspondent Soledad O'Brien asked about "The Decision," the one-hour special on ESPN in which James announced that he would play for the Heat, and some of the negative headlines it generated.
"It's just about control and not doing it the way it's always been done or not looking the way that it always looks," Carter said.
O'Brien asked if race played a role.
"I think so at times," James said. "It's always, you know, a race factor."
Said Carter: "It definitely played a role in some of the stuff coming out of the media, things that were written for sure."
James turned down a chance to stay with the Cleveland Cavaliers and ultimately decided to join the Heat in the oft-criticized televised special that raised $3 million for the Boys & Girls Clubs of America.
It's not the first time race has been a discussion point in the aftermath of "The Decision."
After James made his announcement July 8, Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert responded that same evening by releasing a fiery letter to fans of his team, saying James was being "narcissistic" and "cowardly." That prompted Rev. Jesse Jackson to enter the fray, saying the Cavs owner saw James as a "runaway slave."
An e-mail to Carter's representative requesting further comment was not immediately answered.
"I don't walk in LeBron's shoes," Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said. "From our standpoint, we've moved on from the summer."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5633199
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they all play the race card when they want sympathy
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Lebron james is a dumb fuck. He really is. Dumb as rocks.
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With the Knicks losing another game to the Celtics but claiming they’ve earned respect, New York moves on to prepare for Friday night’s arrival from LeBron James and go back to complaining about how the superstar spurned New York to sign with the Heat in the summer. James explained yesterday some of his thinking about choosing a more established team over a struggling franchise. “Winning appeals to me. And it’s all about winning. I’m not about saving franchises or saving this or that,” he said.
http://leeinks.weei.com/sports/2010/12/16/thursdays-morning-mashup-lebron-james-not-about-saving-franchises-like-knicks
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With the Knicks losing another game to the Celtics but claiming they’ve earned respect, New York moves on to prepare for Friday night’s arrival from LeBron James and go back to complaining about how the superstar spurned New York to sign with the Heat in the summer. James explained yesterday some of his thinking about choosing a more established team over a struggling franchise. “Winning appeals to me. And it’s all about winning. I’m not about saving franchises or saving this or that,” he said.
http://leeinks.weei.com/sports/2010/12/16/thursdays-morning-mashup-lebron-james-not-about-saving-franchises-like-knicks
funny how Mr. All about winning has exactly ZERO titles....haha
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funny how Mr. All about winning has exactly ZERO titles....haha
Moses Malone need to return he dont put up with anything all business.
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I can't believe how much of a class A douche bag Lebron is, I was ok with him going to Miami not the way he did it but I could live with it. But after he kicked his team guts when they where down with his latest rant on twitter he has really become the biggest douche bag in sport!!
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"Crazy. Karma is a b****. Gets you every time. It's not good to wish bad on anybody. God sees everything!" James wrote while in Los Angeles with the Heat for Wednesday's game against the Clippers. The account is verified by Twitter.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=6014004
So he follows this up by saying he didn't write it, he just passed along someone else's comments, and that he wasn't referring to Cleveland, even though the tweet was sent shortly after the Lakers blew them out by about 50 points. ::)
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"Crazy. Karma is a b****. Gets you every time. It's not good to wish bad on anybody. God sees everything!" James wrote while in Los Angeles with the Heat for Wednesday's game against the Clippers. The account is verified by Twitter.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=6014004
So he follows this up by saying he didn't write it, he just passed along someone else's comments, and that he wasn't referring to Cleveland, even though the tweet was sent shortly after the Lakers blew them out by about 50 points. ::)
haha just like he didn't know what contraction meant.
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LeBron, fan exchange words
By Michael Wallace
ESPN.com
AUBURN HILLS, Mich. -- LeBron James took a moment during Friday's game against the Detroit Pistons to fire back at a heckling fan who insulted his mother.
After hearing a fan sitting near the court behind the Heat's bench mention his mother's name, James walked toward the scorer's table and addressed the male fan.
"I don't care what you say to me. I don't give a [expletive] what you say," James said to the fan. "But don't be disrespectful."
The exchange came during a break in action with 1.7 seconds left in the first quarter and was picked up by television microphones.
James responded to the fan, who shouted the comments within earshot of James' two young sons who sat courtside near the Heat's bench.
The fan, who declined to give his name to ESPN.com, said he was offended by James' cursing. He was also told by security to refrain from heckling the rest of the game or he would be escorted out.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=6114546
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Lebron is a big dude. A fight would never break out but if it did, the fan probably wouldn't stand a chance. Not with Lebron's reach advantage. He could probably knock you out with a punch from 7 feet away.
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Lebron is a big dude. A fight would never break out but if it did, the fan probably wouldn't stand a chance. Not with Lebron's reach advantage. He could probably knock you out with a punch from 7 feet away.
Who knows.....Lebron has probably never been in a fight in his adult life,the other guy could be trained, etc..... so you never know. Plus the vast majority of basketball players are horrendous in fights.
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LOL---basketball fights are usually pretty faggy. Used to see some good fights back in the day with the Detroit Pistons bad boy days. Charles Barkley could definitely scrap back in the day,too. Those guys knew how to throw punches.
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LOL---basketball fights are usually pretty faggy. Used to see some good fights back in the day with the Detroit Pistons bad boy days. Charles Barkley could definitely scrap back in the day,too. Those guys knew how to throw punches.
I agree....some good fights from that group of guys.....Mahorn, Oakley, Barkley, etc... were ready to scrap. These guys today just get people between them and talk trash.....and if it ever gets to a fight, it looks like a couple of 7th graders in a slap-fight contest....haha
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My man Mchale knew how to take care of goggle wearing geeks.
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My man Mchale knew how to take care of goggle wearing geeks.
Hell yeah !!!! i was cheering my head off when he did that...... Celtics of the 80's = my favorite pro team in any sport at any time. I lived and died with them.
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Ah the good old days. :)
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Hell yeah !!!! i was cheering my head off when he did that...... Celtics of the 80's = my favorite pro team in any sport at any time. I lived and died with them.
The Chief has never cracked a smile. 8)
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The Chief has never cracked a smile. 8)
Never saw one.
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Waaa! He's averaging 8.4 free throw attempts per game. Sissy.
Dear, officials: LeBron would like some calls
08:08 AM ET 04.01 | LeBron James has taken his share of lumps this season, including on hard fouls he thinks are a little too hard. "Sometimes it's unfair because of how strong I am," James said. "I can take punishment of course, but at the same time, I just feel like it's unfair sometimes." James spoke on the topic after being fouled by Wizards forward Maurice Evans. On a breakaway, Evans grabbed James around the neck to stop the play. The foul wasn't vicious, but James felt it should have merited a flagrant. After it was ruled a normal foul, he argued with officials and was called for a technical. "I don't know if Mo Evans' intention was to be dirty," James said. "I watch a lot of basketball. I see a lot of basketball every day. Every time someone gets grabbed around the neck, it's an automatic flagrant foul. If I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong. But it seems like every time I get hit hard or a hard foul, and all I get is two shots and they take the ball out."
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/275631-dear-officials-lebron-would-like-some-calls?eref=sihp
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Amazing how a person goes from being a broke crackhead to attacking a vallet took too long to bring her car.
LeBron James' mom arrested at hotel
ESPN.com news services
MIAMI BEACH, Fla. -- Gloria James, the mother of Miami Heat basketball star LeBron James, was arrested by Miami Beach police after she reportedly assaulted a valet worker because it was taking too long to have her car delivered.
After practice on Thursday, when asked about the incident, LeBron James said he was being helped with the situation and called it a personal matter.
Police said Gloria James had a strong odor of alcohol on her breath and her eyes were bloodshot when officers arrived at the Fontainebleau Hotel at about 4:47 a.m. ET Thursday.
Police said several witnesses supported valet worker Sorel Rockfeller's account of the alleged assault.
Gloria James was taken to the Miami Beach police department, where she was issued a promise to appear on charges of simple battery and disorderly conduct. A police report says she was released to Heat executive Steve Stowe.
"It's very sensitive because it's your mother, of course," LeBron James said Thursday after practice. "People around me are helping me, helping her."
James said he was at home at the time of his mother's arrest after dealing with Miami's 90-85 loss at home to the Milwaukee Bucks.
"You have to move forward," James said. "It is my life. Just try to not let things be a distraction. I have a job to do. It's a personal matter that's being taken care of. She's fine."
Gloria James was arrested on drunken driving charges in 2006 in Akron, Ohio. She was given a suspended sentence, fined and ordered to complete a drug and alcohol class after pleading no contest to reckless operation, speeding, disorderly conduct and physical control of a motor vehicle under the influence.
LeBron James took about six questions from reporters about his mother before he asked that the focus shift to basketball-related matters, as the Heat prepare for Friday's home game against the Charlotte Bobcats.
The key issue on the court for the Heat remains Dwyane Wade's uncertain status.
Wade missed Wednesday's game with a deep right thigh bruise, but said he is making progress with therapy. Wade was on the court for parts of Thursday's practice and will be re-evaluated before Friday's game.
Dealing with injuries and off-court issues is nothing new for the Heat, who have had to minimize distractions throughout the season.
"A lot of these other things are ancillary distractions if we let them be," Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said. "If we don't [get distracted], then we can focus on what's real."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=6303536
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Dirk Nowitzki Calls LeBron James and Dwyane Wade's Mocking of Flu 'Childish'
by Elliott Davis on Sat, Jun 11, 2011
Dirk Dirk Nowitzki was not amused by LeBron James and Dwyane Wade's antics regarding his Game 4 flu.
Before shootaround Thursday morning prior to Game 5 of the NBA Finals in Dallas, James and Wade appeared to be mocking Nowitzki about his sickness by coughing and joking with each other on camera. Nowitzki played Game 4 with a 101 degree fever and was still not 100 percent for Game 5, and he told ESPN.com that he was not a fan of the jokes.
"I just thought it was a little childish, a little ignorant," Nowitzki said Saturday. "I've been in this league for 13 years. I've never faked an injury or illness."
Wade, who, like James, never mentioned Nowitzki's name while they were apparently mocking him, said that it was not supposed to be a joke and it is being overblown.
"I actually did cough," Wade said. "And with the cameras being right there, we made a joke out of it because we knew you guys were going to blow it up. You did exactly what we knew."
James said he would not discuss the incident, saying that "there's bigger issues in this series than that."
"I'm not feeding into that," James said. "If you guys want to feed into everything that not only myself or D-Wade or the Miami Heat do, I think that's a non-issue."
Game 5 is Sunday night in Miami at 8:00 p.m.
http://www.nesn.com/2011/06/dirk-nowitzki-calls-lebron-james-and-dwyane-wades-mocking-of-flu-childish.html
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Updated: June 14, 2011
LeBron James clarifies comments
By Brian Windhorst
ESPN.com
MIAMI -- After two days to reflect, LeBron James clarified his comments following the Miami Heat's loss to the Dallas Mavericks in the NBA Finals on Sunday night.
James had received some criticism for making a blanket statement that seemed to belittle fans who cheered against him and the Heat.
ESPN the Magazine's Ric Bucher says watching LeBron in the clutch was a tragedy. The friendship between LeBron and Dwyane Wade might be getting in the way of competition.
"All the people that was rooting on me to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today," James said Sunday.
"They have the same personal problems they had today. I'm going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want to do with me and my family and be happy with that. They can get a few days or a few months or whatever the case may be on being happy about not only myself, but the Miami Heat not accomplishing their goal, but they have to get back to the real world at some point."
Tuesday, James backed down from those statements and said they were misinterpreted.
"Basically I was saying at the end of the day this season is over and -- with all hatred -- everyone else has to move on with their lives, good or bad. I do too," James said.
"It wasn't saying I'm superior or better than anyone else, any man or woman on this planet, I'm not. I would never ever look at myself bigger than anyone who watched our game. It may have come off wrong but that wasn't my intent."
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James I would never ever look at myself bigger than anyone who watched our game. It may have come off wrong but that wasn't my intent.
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The Heat are far from over their Finals loss to the Mavericks and were just beginning to put things in perspective as they cleaned out their lockers and went through final meetings on Tuesday. Dwyane Wade said he was in a state of depression. James said he was the definition of the word "low."
Two days after their Game 6 defeat, James said he was especially upset because he felt he let his teammates down with a poor performance. James averaged just 17.8 points and had several poor late-game efforts during the series as the Mavs won the final three games to take the title.
"I put a lot of pressure on myself not to let my teammates down, maybe to a fault at times," James said. "I didn't play up to my own standards. Did that cost us the Finals? I don't know. I'm not satisfied with my performance."
James was also asked if he had any regrets over the events of the last year, especially his decision to leave the Cleveland Cavaliers.
"You can't live your life going back and saying 'if I could do it again,' life doesn't run its course like that," James said. "There are times when you feel like if you did have another opportunity you would change it but you can't move on in life thinking about the past."
On a day when the Heat hoped to be playing a Game 7, Wade said he thought this season would be easier. The team came within two victories of a title but struggled at times as James, Wade and Chris Bosh had some issues meshing their roles. Wade admitted getting three All-Stars to fit was more challenging than it first appeared when they all signed with the Heat last summer.
"You come into a season and see the talent on your roster and you immediately think the game is going to be easier for you; you expect certain things to happen," Wade said. "You have to work the game, no one can come in and automatically be great at something."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=6661305
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A very humble and down to earth man, Lebron is. A hero for the common man.
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lebron speaks the truth
the truth hurts
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LOL he is a prick, I really didnt care who won since i watch basketball less than baseball which is almost zero but he was definitely trying to say he is better than everyone.
Hope he breaks an ankle
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LOL he is a prick, I really didnt care who won since i watch basketball less than baseball which is almost zero but he was definitely trying to say he is better than everyone.
he isn't?
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A very humble and down to earth man, Lebron is. A hero for the common man.
Yep. All class.
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he isn't?
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Of course not.
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Of course not.
how so?
the guy really is a modern day king
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how so?
the guy really is a modern day king
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How is he not better than everyone else? Earl it really sounds like you're being a troll. He's a basketball player. Is he a better basketball player than most? Yes. Is he a better person than most? No.
A modern day king? lol. . . . He puts a ball in a hoop for money.
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How is he not better than everyone else? Earl it really sounds like you're being a troll. He's a basketball player. Is he a better basketball player than most? Yes. Is he a better person than most? No.
A modern day king? lol. . . . He puts a ball in a hoop for money.
and he gets paid 100's of millions to do it
what makes him a bad person? you sound jealous
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and he gets paid 100's of millions to do it
what makes him a bad person? you sound jealous
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I never said he was a bad person. I disagreed with your contention that he is a better person than most people.
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He's fortunate to be born 6'8 and 260 pounds and being physically gifted and athletic. He didn't have to work at that because he hit the genetic jackpot. He's also paid millions of dollars to put a rubber ball through a fucking circle shaped piece of iron. And yes...he's paid millions for doing so.
But he's no messiah. He plays fucking basketball. Is he better than the guy that cured polio? Fuck No. Is he better than me at one on one basketball? Fuck yes. So by virture of that, then yes....he's better than me ::)
I'm not hating on the guy. If i'm in the same exact position as Lebron, I'm not sure how much of an egotistical fuckstick I would turn out to be. I love $$$
But I sure am happy he's 0-2 in the NBA finals. He ain't winning shit in the future. The Western Conference is blowing up right now with all kinds of young talent. Miami and their front running fans aren't winning a fucking thing in the future.
And Earl.....Baltimore will be 1-0 come week one! ;D
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Best nickname I've heard so far: The Frozen One. ;D
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He's still The Frozen One. :)
LeBron continues to crumble in pressure situations
Last Updated: 12:54 AM, January 13, 2012
Posted: 12:40 AM, January 13, 2012
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IT’S NO CHOKE: LeBron James’ continued meltdowns late in games could turn into a big problem for the Heat, Peter Vecsey says.
Without being mean or mordant, what are we to make of James’ repeated breakdowns? Befuddled by the Clippers’ zone defense, I guess, he looked like a John Deere in the Hollywood headlights on the welfare line, aborting 8 of 17, but especially in the final moments (2 of 4) of regulation.
Well, aside from being a little bit richer and somewhat more famous, apparently, he’s a lot like you and me in terms of coming unglued in pressure-packed situations.
James seemed so shaky, so self-conscience, so nervous waiting for the referee to hand over the ball, he shook my hands and rattled my brain. His body language was eminently decipherable: face contorted; lips twitched; eyes darted; receding hairline retreated deeper into the darkness of his headband; and nails begged to be bitten.
This just in: Shaquille O’Neal announced he’s un-retiring so he can intentionally foul LeBron.
Meanwhile, LeBron’s jitters are not confined to stage fright 15 feet out, unguarded, naked to the world. The tighter the game, the tighter his arm and jaw become.
In Oakland, James vaporized earlier than usual and remained in thin air.
In Los Angeles, despite James’ conspicuous cracking at crunch time, coach Erik Spoelstra and teammates, specifically Dwyane Wade, were determined to feed him intravenously, and he urgently wanted every shot.
You better believe it. LeBron is possessed to erase the high-rising reputation he folds along the dotted lines. After so many cave-ins he’s probably questioning his success and doubtlessly worried critics might have him pegged.
You better believe James is desperate to exorcize rapidly multiplying demons, because every day there’s fresh evidence — short-armed perimeter springers and voided off-balance head shots — his career might turn out to be an open-and-shut-championship-less case.
We all know LeBron is one of the NBA’s all-time greatest players, but you have to ask yourself what is going on in his head.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/king_melts_in_heat_knR7QmJX89fy4aqZzBv1hP
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Poor lebron, he must have other issues he needs to get sorted, if the heat dont win this year they will trade him or bosh..Bosh i think will go anyway, lebron sells more merchandise.
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What is the Frozen One smoking?
James not ruling out return to Cavs
CLEVELAND (AP) -- LeBron James could picture returning one day to the place where his NBA journey began.
Back in Cleveland.
Imagine that.
After practicing in a gym where he refined his game for seven seasons, James said Thursday he would not rule out a return to the Cavaliers, a team he carried to the brink of a title before he spurned an entire region by leaving as a free agent in 2010 to chase a championship with Miami.
Asked if he could play for the Cavs again, James initially paused before giving his answer.
"I don't know. I think it would be great," he said. "It would be fun to play in front of these fans again. I had a lot fun times in my seven years here. You can't predict the future and hopefully I continue to stay healthy. I'm here as a Miami Heat player, and I'm happy where I am now, but I don't rule that out in no sense.
"And if I decide to come back, hopefully the fans will accept me."
James' comments may have been calculated, coming one day before the Cavs host the Heat for the third time since the superstar's infamous and messy exit from Cleveland. In mentioning a possible reunion, he may be trying to soften the negative response he'll get Friday night from fans who haven't forgotten what he did to them.
However, James appeared sincere when talking about a potential return to the Cavs, his fractured relationship with Cavs owner Dan Gilbert and topics ranging from phenom Jeremy Lin to rookie Kyrie Irving following practice on the fourth floor of Quicken Loans Arena.
Perhaps it was because he was back in familiar surroundings that prompted James' remarks. Or maybe it's part of a larger agenda. Whatever the case, his past with Cleveland, and his decision to bolt from the Cavs, will always be a sensitive subject.
After all, James put Cleveland back on the NBA map by taking the Cavs to one finals and winning two MVP awards during his stay. He left the franchise during a summer in which he held an entire city at bay as it awaited his decision. After he announced he was joining the Heat during a nationally televised special, the Akron native was vilified by the same fans who cheered every one of his dribbles and dunks.
Time has healed some of the wounds - not all.
James said he has made no attempt to patch things up with Gilbert, who harshly criticized James in a scathing letter to Cleveland's fans. Gilbert promised to win a title before James, questioned his character and told The Associated Press he felt James quit on the Cavs during the playoffs.
James said he has no bitterness toward Gilbert. They have not spoken since James met with the Cavaliers on July 3, 2010, when they were one of several teams courting him to sign with them.
"I don't have any hard feelings. He said what he said and I've moved on," said James, who is under contract with the Heat for two more seasons. "But there's been no attempt to patch things up."
James, however, said he can envision being friends again with Gilbert.
"I don't hold grudges," he said. "I hold them a little bit, but I don't hold them that long. He said what he said out of anger and he would probably want to take that back. But I made a mistake, too, and there are some things I would want to take back as well.
"You make mistakes and move on."
But could he play for Gilbert?
"Dan is not the coach," he said. "I can play for any coach. We'll see what happens."
Attempts to reach Gilbert were unsuccessful. Two years ago, Gilbert was fined $100,000 for his comments about James following "The Decision."
It wasn't clear if by "mistake" James meant the way he announced his departure from Cleveland or joining the Heat. He insists he's happy in South Florida and committed to winning a title with the Heat, who are favored to win it all this season after losing to Dallas in the finals last June.
James acknowledged he's changed and enjoying hoops the way he once did.
"I'm back to how I was in Cleveland, having fun with the game, appreciating the game, loving the game and playing at a high level," he said. "I got away from that last year. It was a difficult year for me last year, making the whole transition, on and off the floor, going through everything I went through.
"I just got back to how I got to this point, back to playing the way I know how to play."
James' comments about a return to Cleveland - albeit unlikely - caught former teammate Antawn Jamison off guard.
"It surprises me that he's saying that now," said Jamison, who played 25 games with James in 2010 after coming over in a trade. "Three years down the road it wouldn't surprise me if he entertains the idea. But hey, after the first go-round, I don't think anything would surprise you as far as scenarios taking place."
Cavs guard Daniel Gibson can't envision Cleveland fans ever receiving James warmly again.
He may have moved on. They haven't..
"I don't think he'd be welcome," Gibson said. "Not with the way that went down. It was a pretty tough situation. I'm sure they wouldn't feel comfortable with that at all."
For the moment, and for at least the next two seasons, James is with the Heat. Miami coach Erik Spoelstra has seen a renewal in James, who he believes will one day be warmly recognized by Cavs fans for his time in Cleveland.
"Time heals a lot of things and LeBron had many special years here," Spoelstra said. "There probably will be a time in the future where he will be embraced and acknowledged for the great run that they had here. It's a new chapter for their organization and they've got a bright future ahead."
James knows what's coming on Friday. He's prepared for a rough reception, but not as hostile as the one the seven-time All-Star got on Dec. 2 last season. James expects to hear boos, but maybe not as many obscenities.
"It doesn't sting anymore," James said. "The booing isn't as bad as it was last year so it's not even a big deal."
James' comments about a hypothetical return to Cleveland didn't surprise teammate Dwyane Wade, his running mate in Miami.
Even Wade, who stayed with James at his home Bath, Ohio, could imagine his friend reuniting with the Cavs - some day.
"Anything is possible," Wade said. "Hopefully, I'm retired."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/02/16/lebron.james.cavaliers.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a7&eref=sihp
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Lebron thinks to much, he wants to make everyone happy.
Go win the ring a few times, dont worry about Cleveland, just win a championship so that monkey is off your back, then do whatever you like.
He played great in the All-star game, he did not win the game but his play is amazing.
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Lebron is his own worst enemy. Every time he opens his mouth he says something stupid. He's an amazing talent but he is developing a reputation as being thin skinned and mentally weak. Dude doesn't want to take the last shot. Always passing the rock at the end of games. He better win a ring soon cause he is headed down the Karl Malone expressway.
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Lebron is his own worst enemy. Every time he opens his mouth he says something stupid. He's an amazing talent but he is developing a reputation as being thin skinned and mentally weak. Dude doesn't want to take the last shot. Always passing the rock at the end of games. He better win a ring soon cause he is headed down the Karl Malone expressway.
more like domonique wilkins. he will win this year.
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LeBron James answers Serge Ibaka
Brian Windhorst [ARCHIVE]
ESPN.com | June 19, 2012
MIAMI -- LeBron James and Serge Ibaka were both on the NBA's All-Defensive Team this season, but Ibaka is not impressed with James' skills on that end of the court.
Ibaka, the Oklahoma City Thunder's power forward, said Monday that James was "not a good defender" and that "he can play defense for two or three minutes but not 48 minutes." James responded to the comments before Tuesday's Game 4 of the NBA Finals.
"I don't really care what he says, he's stupid," James said. "Everyone says something to me every series, then (the media) tries to get a quote. It's stupid."
Ibaka made the comments to The Palm Beach Post.
"LeBron can't play (Kevin Durant) one-on-one. They're playing good defense like a team," Ibaka told the newspaper.
In addition to the Finals, James and Ibaka likely will face off this summer at the Olympics. Ibaka plays for the Spanish national team, expected to be the most serious challenger to Team USA's bid to repeat as gold medalists.
The Heat have been rotating defenders on Durant, who is averaging 31 points on 57 percent shooting in the series, but James was his primary defender in the fourth quarter of the Heat's 91-85 Game 3 victory on Sunday. Durant was 1-of-5 shooting in the quarter with James guarding him.
"For me as a defender, I just try to make plays and try to keep my body in front of a great player," James said. "First of all, I'm not playing 48 minutes, and Kevin's not playing 48 minutes. I'm not guarding him for 48 minutes. When I'm on him, I'm just trying to make it tough for him to make shots, which he's going to make."
In other Thunder-Heat player beef news, Heat forward Chris Bosh said there's no longer any bad blood between him and Durant. Last year Durant referred to Bosh when he said, "There are a lot of fake tough guys in this league, and he's one of them," after the two got in an exchange on the court at a game in Oklahoma City.
"We squashed that at the last All-Star Game," Bosh said Tuesday.
http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8072235
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Looks like Lebron is inching ever so close to that elusive NBA title.
Fucking OKC is really showing their youth and inexperience in the finals...How they beat a veteran team like the Spurs and shit the bed in 3 straight games against the Heat, I have no clue.
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Fat lady is singing, but OKC did best SA four straight.
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lebron will be among the best players of all time within a few days
best player in the game for the last few years, now he will get the respect he deserves
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lebron will be among the best players of all time within a few days
best player in the game for the last few years, now he will get the respect he deserves
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I predict OKC wins tonight. This series is going back to Oklahoma!
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Amazing what a championship will do to repair an image.
LeBron X sneaker to be released
Updated: August 21, 2012
By Darren Rovell | ESPN
After a day full of buzz, the $300 LeBron Nike shoe might not be that expensive.
The Wall Street Journal reported in its Tuesday editions that the LeBron X shoe, scheduled to hit stores this fall, would retail for $315.
But one analyst, Matt Powell of SportsOneSource, later told ESPN that price was for Nike+ tech version of shoe, which would be limited in run, and would likely cost closer to $290.
The LeBron X has motion sensors in the shoe to track various metrics including how high the player jumps.
Tuesday evening, Nike spokesman Brian Strong called the Journal's reported price "inaccurate," while clarifying that the main version of the shoe would come at a significantly lower price point.
"The LeBron X will be launched in the fall at a suggested retail price of $180," Strong said, in a statement. "The initial introduction of the LeBron X will be the red, white and blue Nike+ enabled version and that price is still being set, but will be at a higher price to reflect the Nike+ technology embedded in the shoes."
The company, apparently sensitive to the reports of it crossing the $300 barrier, said it still offers signature shoes at value price points, including the LeBron Zoom Soldier, which has a suggested retail price of $120.
Between its Nike, Jordan and Converse Brands, Nike owns roughly 95 percent of the US basketball shoe market.
Despite a rough economic environment, Nike has been able to pass on the rising costs of materials to its consumers with little resistance due to the premium associated with its high-end product.
SportsOneSource reported last month that sales of sneakers that retail for more than $100 were up 30 percent on the year and sales of basketball shoes that cost more than $100 were up 50 percent.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8288491/nike-claims-reports-300-lebron-x-shoe-price-inaccurate
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If people want to spend $200 for a $5 sneaker all the best to them.
I remember kids being shot dead for Air Jordans..I remember Chris Webber walked away from a Nike Contract cause of the asian kids working conditions and pay..Jordan did not even flinch.
Michael Jordan is so lucky he came to fame with no youtube, he was a huge gambler, he influneced Antoine walker and many NBA players to become addicted to gambling and eventually sending them broke..Jordan has unlimited money apparently.
Michael Jordan's Dad was murdered cause of gambling debt from Michael.
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If people want to spend $200 for a $5 sneaker all the best to them.
I remember kids being shot dead for Air Jordans..I remember Chris Webber walked away from a Nike Contract cause of the asian kids working conditions and pay..Jordan did not even flinch.
Michael Jordan is so lucky he came to fame with no youtube, he was a huge gambler, he influneced Antoine walker and many NBA players to become addicted to gambling and eventually sending them broke..Jordan has unlimited money apparently.
Michael Jordan's Dad was murdered cause of gambling debt from Michael.
Yes his Dad murdered had to effect him, mine Dad died this year fucks with your mind.
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Yes his Dad murdered had to effect him, mine Dad died this year fucks with your mind.
Sorry to hear that man.
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LeBron James, Knicks top lists
Updated: November 28, 2012
Asociated Press
LeBron James is atop the NBA's jersey-sales list once again.
The Miami Heat star has the league's hottest-selling jersey, marking the third time the NBA's reigning MVP and Finals MVP has held that distinction. James was No. 4 in the most recent rankings, released in April.
Jersey Sales, April through Nov. 26
Player Team
1. LeBron James Heat
2. Kevin Durant Thunder
3. Kobe Bryant Lakers
4. Carmelo Anthony Knicks
5. Derrick Rose Bulls
6. Rajon Rondo Celtics
7. Dwyane Wade Heat
8. Blake Griffin Clippers
9. Dwight Howard Lakers
10. Chris Paul Clippers
Since then, all he's done is win his third MVP award, a second Olympic gold medal and help the Heat win the NBA championship -- the franchise's second and his first.
"It's an honor to be No. 1," said James, who last had the league's best-selling jersey in April 2011.
The league released its latest sales-rankings list on Wednesday, with the New York Knicks leading the team-sales category for the first time since December 2004.
On the players' list, Oklahoma City's Kevin Durant checked in at No. 2, six spots higher than where he was in April and likely buoyed by the Thunder reaching the NBA Finals. Kobe Bryant of the Los Angeles Lakers has the league's No. 3-selling jersey, followed by New York's Carmelo Anthony, Chicago's Derrick Rose, Boston's Rajon Rondo, Miami's Dwyane Wade, the Los Angeles Clippers' Blake Griffin, the Lakers' Dwight Howard and the Clippers' Chris Paul at No. 10.
Brooklyn's Deron Williams is No. 11, followed by Oklahoma City's Russell Westbrook, the Lakers' Steve Nash, Boston's Paul Pierce and Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki.
The list is based on sales at the NBA Store in New York and NBAStore.com from April through Nov. 26.
"I give all of the credit to the fans," said James, whose Cleveland jersey topped the league sales charts in 2004. "I would also like to thank all of my supporters and the Miami Heat organization. Let's keep it going."
In the team sales rankings, the Knicks were one spot ahead of the Heat. New York was No. 2 in the April rankings, with Miami then at No. 4.
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It's an honor to be No. 1.
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-- LeBron James
The Lakers are No. 3 on the new list, followed by Chicago (which was No. 1 in April), Boston, Oklahoma City, Brooklyn, the Clippers, San Antonio and Dallas.
The NBA said it had record-breaking sales over Thanksgiving weekend, saying sales on the so-called Cyber Monday were up more than 10 percent over last year. Cyber Monday last year fell two days after the league and its players announced a tentative end to the NBA lockout.
It was Westbrook's first time on the list. Rondo and Paul each moved up four spots, and the Lakers were the only team with three players among the top 15 best-sellers.
Rose was No. 1 on the most recent list, released April 26. Houston guard Jeremy Lin, whose now-former Knicks jersey was No. 2 in the April rankings, fell out of the top 15.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8685543/lebron-james-miami-heat-returns-top-spot-nba-jersey-sales
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I literally cannot stand the fakeness of Durant.
his torso is covered with tattoos, he kept his arms free of tattoos for marketing reasons and to act like a nice guy, when they guy is such a feral girl.
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Makes Lebron sound like a total douche acting like that in a club, but to be honest if I was in his position or even some lowly nba scrub, I would probably act like that too on occasion. :-[
Not all the time though.
I have actually seen several NBA players in the clubs and none of them act like that. Sure they hang out together but they also socialize with other people in the club.
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His image has come full circle.
Poll: LeBron voted most popular
Updated: July 17, 2014
By Darren Rovell | ESPN.com
LeBron James is the most popular male athlete in America for the first time in his career.
So says a new Harris Poll, which surveyed what it says is a representative sample of 2,241 people in the U.S. last month.
LeBron James, who fell out of the top 10 in 2011 after choosing Miami over Cleveland, was voted most popular male athlete in the U.S. for the first time.
James, whose highest ranking was No. 2 last season, topped retired Chicago Bulls star and Charlotte Hornets owner Michael Jordan, who had the distinction of being No. 1 from 1993 through 2005.
It was a long road for James to get to the top. In 2011, the year after his "Decision" to go to Miami, James fell completely out of the top 10.
James was most popular among the 18-36 and 49-67 age demographics, while the poll reflected that Generatrion Xers (37-48) preferred Jordan.
Rounding out the top 5 is retiring New York Yankees shortstop Derek Jeter, Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning and in a tie for fifth is Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant and NASCAR driver Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Three of the top four most popular women are tennis players. The Williams sisters, Serena (No. 1) and Venus (No. 3), are joined at the top by Maria Sharapova (No. 4). Despite her inability to get into Victory Lane, Danica Patrick took the No. 2 spot, while retired soccer player Mia Hamm came in at No. 5.
The sport that has the most popular male athletes in the top 10 is, not surprisingly, football. After Manning at No. 4, New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady is No. 7, New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees is No. 9 and Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers snuck into the top 10 at No. 10.
The favorite male athlete list includes only one player who has retired (Jordan), but the women's list includes four athletes in the top 10 who have hung it up: Hamm, tennis greats Billy Jean King (tied for sixth) and Chris Evert (tied for eighth) and beach volleyball player Misty May-Treanor (No. 10).
Two male athletes dropped off the list from last year -- Phil Mickelson and Tim Tebow.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11228655/harris-poll-lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-most-popular-male-athlete
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The 2015 Finals helped improve LeBron's image even more. He did a great job with a weak supporting cast, but he is no Kobe Bryant. :)
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Some guy just got kicked out of a Cleveland Indians game for wearing a Lebron jersey. The whole stands was ragging this guy in the middle of the game. I heard to that they totally sold out of season tickets so they fired the ticket personel cause there was nothing else for them to do.
Wow, middle eastern type behavior here. Could at least throw out guys for such terrible fashion "faux pas's" such as capri pants.
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Not a very flattering portrayal.
Report: LeBron James, David Blatt relationship soured during NBA Finals
BY SI WIRE
Posted: Thu Jun. 18, 2015
A sideline account of the NBA Finals describes how LeBron James “emasculated” Cleveland Cavaliers head coach David Blatt over the six-game series loss to the Golden State Warriors.
In a story published Thursday on ESPN.com, Marc Stein writes that although James set forth multiple impressive performances despite the Cavaliers being significantly besieged by injuries, the 11-time NBA All-Star visibly expressed frustration with Blatt's in-game decisions and appeared to favor assistant coach and former NBA player Tyronn Lue, prompting Blatt to at least one time re-do a play he drew up during a timeout.
James became the first player in NBA Finals history to lead both teams in points, assists and rebounds for the entire series, but the Cavaliers lost in six games. From Stein's story:
• ROSENBERG: NBA Finals heartbreak shouldn't define James’ legacy
And we likewise saw LeBron emasculate Blatt in ways that are simply unbecoming of a player of James’ legend-in-the-making stature.
I saw it from close range in my role as sideline reporter through the Finals for ESPN Radio. LeBron essentially calling timeouts and making substitutions. LeBron openly barking at Blatt after decisions he didn’t like. LeBron huddling frequently with Lue and so often looking at anyone other than Blatt.
There was LeBron, in one instance I witnessed from right behind the bench, shaking his head vociferously in protest after one play Blatt drew up in the third quarter of Game 5, amounting to the loudest nonverbal scolding you could imagine.
Which forced Blatt, in front of his whole team, to wipe the board clean and draw up something else.
Blatt was hired before the season—and before James chose to return to Cleveland—after a successful overseas coaching career. His Maccabi Electra team based in Tel Aviv, Israel, won the 2014 Euroleague championship, earning Blatt Euroleague Coach of the Year honors on top of his previous four Israeli League Coach of the Year honors.
After bringing Blatt and James into the fold, the Cavaliers overhauled their roster by trading for Minnesota Timberwolves forward Kevin Love, signing veterans James Jones, Shawn Marion and Mike Miller and making midseason deals for Timofey Mozgov, Iman Shumpert and J.R. Smith.
• Warriors-Cavaliers 2015 NBA Finals TV ratings hit post-Jordan high
After starting slow, the Cavaliers finished the regular season 53–29 and eventually reached the NBA Finals for the second time in Cleveland’s 45-year franchise history.
Despite the team’s success, reports of friction between James and Blatt persisted throughout the season. Nonetheless, ESPN’s Brian Windhorst said in a radio appearance on Wednesday that James might not mind if Blatt returns to coach the Cavaliers next season because he “likes having Blatt to kick around.”
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/06/18/lebron-james-david-blatt-relationship-nba-finals?xid=si_social
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Saw him once dressed up as a geek for a press interview and never thought I'd see a brother dress up like such a bitch. Had the stupid huge glasses on, computer geek shirt, just another product of generation fail despite the fact he can put a basketball through a hoop better than anyone else on this planet right now.
Fuck you nonetheless Lebron, everyone gets called out for their faggotry by me...
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lebron is the best player of all time
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Way too soon to call him the best player of all time. Maybe he gets there, but I doubt it. We shall see.
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im not sure if im a fan or not.
is he an INCREDIBLE basketball player?? Of course. This season just showed how good he really is. He took a team that was HORRENDOUS last year, and took them to the Finals this year.
BUT...i dont think i care for his personality. To me it looks like he think he's better than the game. You know he thinks hes the actual coach of the team and i bet he doesnt listen to shit his real coach tells him.
I'll make my decision after a couple more years
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lebron is the best player of all time
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Hi Lebron! You were great on the Jimmy Fallon show yesterday. Good luck with you movie career.
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Hi Lebron! You were great on the Jimmy Fallon show yesterday. Good luck with you movie career.
my name is Earl
blinky - you just described jordan and kobe
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my name is Earl
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That was a great show, I'm a big fan of Jason Lee.
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Coming back from a 3-1 deficit and winning game 7 on the road helped save his legacy. Good thing he had Kyrie Irving.
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Coming back from a 3-1 deficit and winning game 7 on the road helped save his legacy. Good thing he had Kyrie Irving.
good thing michael had scottie
good thing magic had kareem
good thing kobe had shaq
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good thing michael had scottie
good thing magic had kareem
good thing kobe had shaq
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Magic didn't have Kareem in game 6 of the 1980 NBA Finals. He played center in Kareem's absence and was named MVP. One of my all-time great memories.
Kobe didn't have Shaq when he won championships in 2009 and 2010.
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Magic didn't have Kareem in game 6 of the 1980 NBA Finals. He played center in Kareem's absence and was named MVP. One of my all-time great memories.
Kobe didn't have Shaq when he won championships in 2009 and 2010.
He had a prime Pau.
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He had a prime Pau.
And Odom, Fisher, 1/2 of Bynum, Horry, Fox, etc.
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Magic didn't have Kareem in game 6 of the 1980 NBA Finals. He played center in Kareem's absence and was named MVP. One of my all-time great memories.
Kobe didn't have Shaq when he won championships in 2009 and 2010.
so magic won a title against shit competition and kobe beat dwight howard and an old celtics team thanks to pau
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so magic won a title against shit competition and kobe beat dwight howard and an old celtics team thanks to pau
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Your facts were wrong. Magic didn't have Kareem for the deciding game of his first championship and Kobe didn't have Shaq for three of his finals appearances and two of his championships.
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Your facts were wrong. Magic didn't have Kareem for the deciding game of his first championship and Kobe didn't have Shaq for three of his finals appearances and two of his championships.
both would have less titles than the KING if not for having a better player on their team for most of the championships
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both would have less titles than the KING if not for having a better player on their team for most of the championships
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LeBron would have three less titles if not for Irving, Wade, and Bosh. They all needed help.
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LeBron would have three less titles if not for Irving, Wade, and Bosh. They all needed help.
yes that is my point, yet the KING is the only player that people believe should do it all by himself
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yes that is my point, yet the KING is the only player that people believe should do it all by himself
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Maybe, but it's self inflicted. He created his own lofty expectations. Just look at some of his tattoos:
Chosen1
King James
Prince James
Gifted Child
Witness
How arrogant is that?
Yes he's a great player, but he had to join super teams to win. What last year showed is he cannot carry a team to a title.
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Maybe, but it's self inflicted. He created his own lofty expectations. Just look at some of his tattoos:
Chosen1
King James
Prince James
Gifted Child
Witness
How arrogant is that?
Yes he's a great player, but he had to join super teams to win. What last year showed is he cannot carry a team to a title.
of course he's arrogant, that's what happens when you are on a pedestal since middle school, if you want to blame anybody blame the adults that told him he was a god when he was 13
what last year showed is he can carry a horrible team to game 6 of the nba finals, which none of the other past greats ever accomplished
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of course he's arrogant, that's what happens when you are on a pedestal since middle school, if you want to blame anybody blame the adults that told him he was a god when he was 13
what last year showed is he can carry a horrible team to game 6 of the nba finals, which none of the other past greats ever accomplished
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I do blame adults for deifying these kids, although once the kids become adults, they are responsible for their conduct.
He plays in the East, where .500 teams make the playoffs. I actually think Kobe taking the Suns to the brink in the playoffs with a lineup of Kwame Brown, Odom, Luke Walton, and Smush Parker was more impressive than LeBron marching through the East and losing in the Finals last year. LeBron needs fellow superstars to win championships.
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LeBron needs fellow superstars to win championships.
They all do.
But what he did in the finals this year was pretty amazing. There is no denying that.
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They all do.
But what he did in the finals this year was pretty amazing. There is no denying that.
They need all-star caliber teammates, but not necessarily superstar teammates.
Not denying that LeBron was terrific in the Finals. He certainly was. It's also a coin flip in my book on whether he was better than Irving in the Finals.
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They need all-star caliber teammates, but not necessarily superstar teammates.
Not denying that LeBron was terrific in the Finals. He certainly was. It's also a coin flip in my book on whether he was better than Irving in the Finals.
Irving and Love weren't considered superstars going into the finals.
I just can't get all worked up about going to Miami. Young, the top of his game, and the ability to go to that climate and win titles with his friends? Who wouldn't? Yes, "the decision" was stupid and naive, but after that? He's made good on all the crap - leaving Cleveland, so called choking in the clutch......
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Irving and Love weren't considered superstars going into the finals.
I just can't get all worked up about going to Miami. Young, the top of his game, and the ability to go to that climate and win titles with his friends? Who wouldn't? Yes, "the decision" was stupid and naive, but after that? He's made good on all the crap - leaving Cleveland, so called choking in the clutch......
Love isn't a superstar. Irving absolutely is now, especially after his Finals performance. He was a stone cold killer.
I didn't care about LeBron going to Miami (or anywhere else). I had a problem with how he did it, with his one hour promotion, disrespecting the Cavs ownership by not talking to them about it first, etc.
He was the Frozen One (love that name) but he definitely showed up in the Finals. His block on Iggy late in the fourth to help preserve the win was one of the best plays I've seen in the Finals. I'm not a fan of his, but no question he is an all-time great.
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Love isn't a superstar. Irving absolutely is now, especially after his Finals performance. He was a stone cold killer.
I didn't care about LeBron going to Miami (or anywhere else). I had a problem with how he did it, with his one hour promotion, disrespecting the Cavs ownership by not talking to them about it first, etc.
He was the Frozen One (love that name) but he definitely showed up in the Finals. His block on Iggy late in the fourth to help preserve the win was one of the best plays I've seen in the Finals. I'm not a fan of his, but no question he is an all-time great.
Agree completely on the "decision" part. I chalked that up to two things - being young and dumb, and probably didn't see that ESPN was encouraging him. But, from what I've read, all the $ made on that went to charity.
I think what made me like LeBron (I don't follow basketball) was he caught shit for wearing a Yankees hat when Cleveland was playing NY in the playoffs in 2007. Instead of giving in (like Tom Brady did), he just said "you're all going to have to get used to it". True fan.
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Agree completely on the "decision" part. I chalked that up to two things - being young and dumb, and probably didn't see that ESPN was encouraging him. But, from what I've read, all the $ made on that went to charity.
I think what made me like LeBron (I don't follow basketball) was he caught shit for wearing a Yankees hat when Cleveland was playing NY in the playoffs in 2007. Instead of giving in (like Tom Brady did), he just said "you're all going to have to get used to it". True fan.
He's actually not bad overall when compared to a lot of other superstars. Hasn't been running around the country making babies, getting arrested, making stupid comments, etc. I read that Dwight Howard has 8 kids from 8 different mothers.
But he is one arrogant buggah to get those tattoos.
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But he is one arrogant buggah to get those tattoos.
Haven't seen, but after reading your post, I'm going to assume they're horrible.
EDIT: I looked. The family ones are Ok but "Chosen" and "Gifted Child" are cringe-worthy.
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Haven't seen, but after reading your post, I'm going to assume they're horrible.
EDIT: I looked. The family ones are Ok but "Chosen" and "Gifted Child" are cringe-worthy.
As are "King James" and "Prince James."
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somebody explain to me how Lebron isn't "the chosen one" or "gifted"
it's not arrogance when it's true, you guys act like it's shaun livingston with these tats
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somebody explain to me how Lebron isn't "the chosen one" or "gifted"
it's not arrogance when it's true, you guys act like it's shaun livingston with these tats
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No, we don't. In fact, if you read the above exchanges, I've said I have no issue at all with him.
Mariano Rivera was the greatest closer in baseball history - it's not even debatable. He doesn't have any tattoos telling us that, or a license plate that readest "GR8TST", or anything of the sort.
Those two tats are cheesy. The perfect response to them is ::) ::)
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somebody explain to me how Lebron isn't "the chosen one" or "gifted"
it's not arrogance when it's true, you guys act like it's shaun livingston with these tats
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Come on dude. Nobody should be talking about themselves that way. I never heard Jordan talk that way about himself.
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No, we don't. In fact, if you read the above exchanges, I've said I have no issue at all with him.
Mariano Rivera was the greatest closer in baseball history - it's not even debatable. He doesn't have any tattoos telling us that, or a license plate that readest "GR8TST", or anything of the sort.
Those two tats are cheesy. The perfect response to them is ::) ::)
I agree.
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No, we don't. In fact, if you read the above exchanges, I've said I have no issue at all with him.
Mariano Rivera was the greatest closer in baseball history - it's not even debatable. He doesn't have any tattoos telling us that, or a license plate that readest "GR8TST", or anything of the sort.
Those two tats are cheesy. The perfect response to them is ::) ::)
rivera was not on the cover of sports illustraed when he was 16
the best closer in baseball does not even slightly compare to being the best basketball player in the world and arguably of all time, closers are pitchers not good enough to be starters
rivera was only relevant to baseball fans and new yorkers, nobody else knows who he is while everybody knows Lebron
rivera with tats like that would be laughable, the tats fit Lebron
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Come on dude. Nobody should be talking about themselves that way. I never heard Jordan talk that way about himself.
will you people get off of jordan's nutsack
"JORDAN WOULDN'T DO THAT"
"JORDAN WOULDN'T DO THIS"
"JORDAN DIDN'T DO THAT"
enough already jeez, jordan's generation didn't have tats, every other player these days looks like rodman 20 years ago aside from the pink or green hair
jordan was a dick to everybody from teammates to his caddie, i never heard that said about Lebron
and again that's not a great comparison either, jordan was cut from the varsity team in high school while Lebron was dominating seniors in high school as an 8th grader hence his arrogance
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rivera was not on the cover of sports illustraed when he was 16
the best closer in baseball does not even slightly compare to being the best basketball player in the world and arguably of all time, closers are pitchers not good enough to be starters
rivera was only relevant to baseball fans and new yorkers, nobody else knows who he is while everybody knows Lebron
rivera with tats like that would be laughable, the tats fit Lebron
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Doesn't make those two tats any less cheesy or cringe-worthy.
And I'm not doing any of that Jordan comparison stuff - just judging them solely based on the context of what they say.
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will you people get off of jordan's nutsack
"JORDAN WOULDN'T DO THAT"
"JORDAN WOULDN'T DO THIS"
"JORDAN DIDN'T DO THAT"
enough already jeez, jordan's generation didn't have tats, every other player these days looks like rodman 20 years ago aside from the pink or green hair
jordan was a dick to everybody from teammates to his caddie, i never heard that said about Lebron
and again that's not a great comparison either, jordan was cut from the varsity team in high school while Lebron was dominating seniors in high school as an 8th grader hence his arrogance
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Actually LeBron is the one who used Jordan as the standard, even wearing Jordan's number when he first came into the NBA.
But it isn't just Jordan. Magic, Bird, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Tim Duncan, Tony Gwynn, Serena Williams, Tiger Woods, Roger Federer, A-Rod, Jeter, etc. Pick a superstar. They don't deify themselves with tattoos. I don't know if LeBron is the only superstar to anoint himself with those kinds of tattoos as a kid, but it's definitely not commonplace.
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Doesn't make those two tats any less cheesy or cringe-worthy.
And I'm not doing any of that Jordan comparison stuff - just judging them solely based on the context of what they say.
Correct.
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Actually LeBron is the one who used Jordan as the standard, even wearing Jordan's number when he first came into the NBA.
But it isn't just Jordan. Magic, Bird, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Tim Duncan, Tony Gwynn, Serena Williams, Tiger Woods, Roger Federer, A-Rod, Jeter, etc. Pick a superstar. They don't deify themselves with tattoos. I don't know if LeBron is the only superstar to anoint himself with those kinds of tattoos as a kid, but it's definitely not commonplace.
Lebron is a millennial and they love tats, none of these athletes are that young and none of them had the hype he had as a teen
Lebron was the most famous basketball player in the world when he was a senior in high school, shaq said so himself back in 2002
and yeah Lebron views jordan as the standard because people can't stop talking about him, his legend seems to grow more and more when he hasn't been the best in the world since 1998, it's quite pathetic how people can't move on from him
basketball hasn't regressed like bodybuilding so can we please move on from the past?
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Lebron is a millennial and they love tats, none of these athletes are that young and none of them had the hype he had as a teen
Nothing wrong with tats.
Just those two are cheesy, no matter how you try to rationalize it.
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Lebron is a millennial and they love tats, none of these athletes are that young and none of them had the hype he had as a teen
Lebron was the most famous basketball player in the world when he was a senior in high school, shaq said so himself back in 2002
and yeah Lebron views jordan as the standard because people can't stop talking about him, his legend seems to grow more and more when he hasn't been the best in the world since 1998, it's quite pathetic how people can't move on from him
basketball hasn't regressed like bodybuilding so can we please move on from the past?
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Like Grape Ape said, it isn't about getting tattoos, it's what those tattoos say.
I completely disagree about basketball regressing. The 80s basketball was far superior to what we see today IMO. Maybe that was because the lack of free agency allowed teams to be stacked, but I think the quality of basketball in the NBA has decreased. I don't know if we'll ever see anything like the Lakers, Celtics, Sixers, and Pistons from back then. I miss those days.
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we've seen plenty of teams like them and better, you just don't see it because you romanticize the past
30 years from now some kid that is currently 15 will be doing the same thing, it's what people do
and Lebron is the only athlete that can wear those tattoos
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we've seen plenty of teams like them and better, you just don't see it because you romanticize the past
30 years from now some kid that is currently 15 will be doing the same thing, it's what people do
and Lebron is the only athlete that can wear those tattoos
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I'm not romanticizing anything. I just believe what I see. Some sports progress. Some regress. Football has progressed. Basketball and heavyweight boxing have regressed.
No man should be wearing those tattoos. And honestly, he hasn't lived up to the expectations he set for himself for calling himself "King." He was outstanding in these Finals, but he also has plenty of Frozen One moments in the Finals. If he gets 6 or 7 rings then we can talk about putting him on the NBA Mount Rushmore.
Also, keep in mind he plays in the incredibly weak East.
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I'm not romanticizing anything. I just believe what I see. Some sports progress. Some regress. Football has progressed. Basketball and heavyweight boxing have regressed.
No man should be wearing those tattoos. And honestly, he hasn't lived up to the expectations he set for himself for calling himself "King." He was outstanding in these Finals, but he also has plenty of Frozen One moments in the Finals. If he gets 6 or 7 rings then we can talk about putting him on the NBA Mount Rushmore.
Also, keep in mind he plays in the incredibly weak East.
players are bigger, stronger, and more skilled than ever stop looking at basketball through your once teenaged eyes
heavyweight boxing has regressed because nobody wants to be a boxer anymore, everybody wants to be an nba player so you can't argue the talent is diluted
he has lived up to the expectations by being by far the best player of his generation, every player has had "frozen one" moments you just don't remember them because people only count bad games in the finals, people conveniently forget kobe missing the playoffs or jordan not beating the celtic or pistons and when you're in the finals as often as he is there will be some bad games
you guys knock the conference he's in, yet ignore the fact he didn't have good teammates for most of his career
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players are bigger, stronger, and more skilled than ever stop looking at basketball through your once teenaged eyes
heavyweight boxing has regressed because nobody wants to be a boxer anymore, everybody wants to be an nba player so you can't argue the talent is diluted
he has lived up to the expectations by being by far the best player of his generation, every player has had "frozen one" moments you just don't remember them because people only count bad games in the finals, people conveniently forget kobe missing the playoffs or jordan not beating the celtic or pistons and when you're in the finals as often as he is there will be some bad games
you guys knock the conference he's in, yet ignore the fact he didn't have good teammates for most of his career
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I watched 80s games live and I still occasionally watch some of those old games. What I saw then and what I see now is better basketball. Being able to run faster or jump higher doesn't = better team basketball or even more skilled players. For example, there isn't a point guard playing today better than Magic Johnson, but I bet most of the today's NBA point guards can jump higher and run faster than him. And I think the Celtics, Pistons, and Lakers would have beaten this years Cavs.
Today's fundamentals stink. How many of today's big men cannot shoot free throws? How many of them cannot shoot from the perimeter? They don't put in the time.
Regarding boxing, today's athletes are bigger, stronger, and faster, yet none of today's heavyweights could beat Ali, Foreman, Frazier, or even Tyson in his prime. Same with the lighter classes with Sugar Ray, Duran, Hearns, etc. Those battles were awesome. Regardless of how you want to spin it, the sport has regressed and been replaced by MMA (or whatever you call it).
I don't think LeBron is the best player of his generation. He wasn't even the best player in the league the past two years. Great player, yes. All-time great, yes. Greatest of his generation? Not enough rings.
Jordan and Kobe's respective Finals records are pretty darn good: 6-0 and 5-2. LeBron is 3-4. Not much of a comparison.
LeBron has only won championships playing with superstar players. He would not have won in Miami without Wade and Bosh (and Ray Allen), or in Cleveland without Irving playing out of his mind. Even then he won it by the skin of his teeth.
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like i said you are watching those games with nostalgia goggles
name the titles kobe and michael won without star teammates, why did kobe miss the playoffs when shaq and phil left?
and if you would take curry over Lebron it just proves even more you're a Lebron hater, you knock Lebron for his finals losses yet excuse curry's shit performance in the finals, though curry would easily be a top 5 player in the 80's
Lebron is easily the best player of his generation and arguably of all time
just admit you're a hater and can't stand the fact that there are better players than your childhood heroes
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like i said you are watching those games with nostalgia goggles
name the titles kobe and michael won without star teammates, why did kobe miss the playoffs when shaq and phil left?
and if you would take curry over Lebron it just proves even more you're a Lebron hater, you knock Lebron for his finals losses yet excuse curry's shit performance in the finals, though curry would easily be a top 5 player in the 80's
Lebron is easily the best player of his generation and arguably of all time
just admit you're a hater and can't stand the fact that there are better players than your childhood heroes
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You can keep saying something that is absolutely untrue if you want. It's still false. I simply have a different take on today's NBA.
Jordan had a superstar teammate in Pippin. Kobe had a superstar teammate in Shaq. Debatable whether Pau was a superstar, but definitely an all-star.
But the standard is different for "King James"/the "Chosen One." He is supposed to be able to carry a team to a championship with those kinds of self-titled monikers. He can't.
No, LeBron is not the best player of his generation when he wasn't even the best player in the NBA the past two seasons. Curry was terrible in the Finals. LeBron was terrific. But that doesn't change their performance during the entire season. Curry was out of his mind good this past season.
I admit you really are not capable of having an extended discussion without acting like a little kid. I suspect you don't even watch the NBA.
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the fact that you and many others expect Lebron to be the only player to carry bums to a championship is proof you all believe he is the best player ever
i get it you hate his tattoos, are they worse than kobe being hated by teammates? worse than kobe raping that girl? worse than jordan quitting to play baseball and failing miserably in washington when the east was very weak? let me guess, he was old right? shouldn't the "best player ever" while averaging at least 20 a game get them to the playoffs in a weak conference?
i'll answer, no the tats are not worse but you will say they are just to prove your stupid point, which is hating Lebron and shitting on all his accomplishments
funny how curry's regular season means more to you than Lebron's title while you would probably dismiss the fact Lebron has 3 more mvp's than kobe, no not a hater at all LOL
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the fact that you and many others expect Lebron to be the only player to carry bums to a championship is proof you all believe he is the best player ever
i get it you hate his tattoos, are they worse than kobe being hated by teammates? worse than kobe raping that girl? worse than jordan quitting to play baseball and failing miserably in washington when the east was very weak? let me guess, he was old right? shouldn't the "best player ever" while averaging at least 20 a game get them to the playoffs in a weak conference?
i'll answer, no the tats are not worse but you will say they are just to prove your stupid point, which is hating Lebron and shitting on all his accomplishments
funny how curry's regular season means more to you than Lebron's title while you would probably dismiss the fact Lebron has 3 more mvp's than kobe, no not a hater at all LOL
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You really have a lot invested in this don't you? Do you have life-sized LeBron posters on your bedroom wall? LeBron fat heads? Bobble-heads? It's ok. Lots of kids have groupie-like crushes on superstars.
I expect LeBron to carry any team he plays on to a championship because those are the expectations he set for himself, not because he is actually good enough to do so. He's clearly not. He left for Miami because he needed other superstars to win. He came back to Cleveland only because they had a rising superstar in Irving and a wink/nod trade in place for an all-star in Love. And Love was a borderline superstar before going to Cleveland.
Tattoos. lol. Are you just acting like a doofus or just being dishonest? I don't care about LeBron or anyone else getting tattoos. The issue is what those tattoos say, not the fact he has tattoos. Both Grape Ape and I already explained that to you.
If you are evaluating a player's performance, you look at an entire season, not just seven games in the Finals.
I don't place a lot of stock in media-voted MVP awards. They don't mean a whole lot. What matters is what we actually see and the results on the floor. And when I say "we" I'm referring to those of us who actually watch the NBA.
Wait. Aren't you the same person who said Larry Bird was just an overrated white guy? LOL! If that wasn't you then I apologize. If it was, then I'm going to slap myself for getting into an extended discussion with you in first place. lol
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your first sentence is you projecting yourself on to me
those are the expectations everybody has for Lebron because they know he's the best and because he has been to the finals 6 straight times, when you are the best it's natural to have those expectations
Lebron wasn't handed superstars like your childhood heroes, why do you refuse to admit that?
i hate all tattoos, but if anybody can pull of the tats Lebron has it's Lebron, i wouldn't go by what grape ape said because he actually compared a relief pitcher for an all star team in a non capped league to Lebron
you evaluate the whole season eh? good so Lebron's 4 mvp's automatically make him far superior to kobe the rapist with his measly 1 mvp, Lebron was first team all nba so stop pretending his regular season sucked
mvp's are given based on results on the floor you idiot, stop changing the rules to fit your retarded argument, if anybody is a media favorite it's kobe
i don't recall saying here that larry bird is an overrated white guy but he is definitely worse than Lebron, he too was handed superstar teammates unlike Lebron
another thing about the KING, people say he chased titles, well he built those teams unlike jordan drafting kwame friggin brown number 1 overall in washington and not even building a playoff team in charlotte, jordan's luck of having superstars fall into his lap is clearly gone HAHA
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Lebron is still and obnoxious illiterate phaggot.
Golden State choking away the Finals to him doesn't change that.
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Lebron is still and obnoxious illiterate phaggot.
Golden State choking away the Finals to him doesn't change that.
He was a beast in the finals.
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He was a beast in the finals.
Fuck him
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He was throwing darts at Jordan the other day. http://uproxx.com/dimemag/lebron-james-michael-jordan-too-much-credit-bulls-titles/
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He was throwing darts at Jordan the other day. http://uproxx.com/dimemag/lebron-james-michael-jordan-too-much-credit-bulls-titles/
That's rich.
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Lebron is still and obnoxious illiterate phaggot.
Golden State choking away the Finals to him doesn't change that.
he's still the best player you've ever had the privilege to witness
WE ARE ALL A WITNESS
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he's still the best player you've ever had the privilege to witness
WE ARE ALL A WITNESS
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Baloney. I watched guys like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant. Ever single one of those guys is better than LBJ.
Every single one of them I would pick for my team before Lebron.
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Baloney. I watched guys like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant. Ever single one of those guys is better than LBJ.
Every single one of them I would pick for my team before Lebron.
you are an idiot if you would take these guys over the King, jordan is the only one that is arguable
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Baloney. I watched guys like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant. Ever single one of those guys is better than LBJ.
Every single one of them I would pick for my team before Lebron.
I agree.
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you are an idiot if you would take these guys over the King, jordan is the only one that is arguable
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Take Lebron's cock out of your mouth for two seconds and act like a man.
Look, your opinion is about as credible as that of a 5 year old retard in some third world toilet. Casually swatting flies away.....vacant.
However, unlike that pathetic mentally-challenged child, you refuse to accept your lot in life. Instead you make bold proclamations out of some sad, misplaced egotism.
If you weren't such an obnoxious pile of shit I might feel sorry for you. Go start a Lebron James fan club or something.
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Take Lebron's cock out of your mouth for two seconds and act like a man.
Look, your opinion is about as credible as that of a 5 year old retard in some third world toilet. Casually swatting flies away.....vacant.
However, unlike that pathetic mentally-challenged child, you refuse to accept your lot in life. Instead you make bold proclamations out of some sad, misplaced egotism.
If you weren't such an obnoxious pile of shit I might feel sorry for you. Go start a Lebron James fan club or something.
meltdown
the only thing pathetic here is your hate for the King, your heroes are a distant memory and inferior in every way
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Yes, the tattoos are too much. Seriously f'ed up mentality and he's in for the worst fall if he keeps it up.
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I really enjoy it when this balding, pubic high school educated, dim-wit tries to talk about social issues.
So much wisdom. What a leader. He's like Martin Luther King and Muhammad Ali all wrapped up into one.
Fucking potato brain. Thank God for growth hormone or else he'd be in the hood stealing bicycles.
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I really enjoy it when this balding, pubic high school educated, dim-wit tries to talk about social issues.
So much wisdom. What a leader. He's like Martin Luther King and Muhammad Ali all wrapped up into one.
Fucking potato brain. Thank God for growth hormone or else he'd be in the hood stealing bicycles.
unlike that bald fraud jordan not saying a word because "republican's buy shoes too"
thank god for basketball otherwise jordan would've played baseball, oh wait...
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unlike that bald fraud jordan not saying a word because "republican's buy shoes too"
thank god for basketball otherwise jordan would've played baseball, oh wait...
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Nice try. My last post was a perfect 10. Yours was a minus 2.
You are an unfunny turd. Here is your God..........defend this.
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Nice try. My last post was a perfect 10. Yours was a minus 2.
You are an unfunny turd. Here is your God..........defend this.
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you're a perfect 10 sure
you're a 5 out of 10 in basketball knowledge, and a 5 out of 10 in wit
that equals a 10
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you're a perfect 10 sure
you're a 5 out of 10 in basketball knowledge, and a 5 out of 10 in wit
that equals a 10
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Good for you dipshit, you just proved that you can add 5 plus 5. You just surprised a lot of people here.
You are still an unfunny douche who doesn't know half of what you think you know about basketball.
Have fun worshiping that know-nothing drag queen.
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Good for you dipshit, you just proved that you can add 5 plus 5. You just surprised a lot of people here.
You are still an unfunny douche who doesn't know half of what you think you know about basketball.
Have fun worshiping that know-nothing drag queen.
you just proved that i struck a nerve, but what else is new?
unfunny? i didn't realize i was trying to be funny, but at least i'm not being laughed at like you
have fun worshipping a guy that couldn't get his team to the playoffs back when the east was as good as the ACC
"i think kwame brown is the best player in the draft" - michael jordan
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you just proved that i struck a nerve, but what else is new?
unfunny? i didn't realize i was trying to be funny, but at least i'm not being laughed at like you
have fun worshipping a guy that couldn't get his team to the playoffs back when the east was as good as the ACC
"i think kwame brown is the best player in the draft" - michael jordan
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You obviously don't realize that I'm not a Michael Jordan fan. Fuck Michael Jordan. I just recognize that all the GH in the world won't make Lebron as good as MJ was.
Now, look at Lebron in drag again. This is about as bad as it gets. I laugh at his shame.
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the king owns jordan, and i own you
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you compare the King having fun and joking around to jordan crying like a bitch
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What a thin skinned baby. Barkley is right. LeBron has a superstar in Irving and and all-star in Love. He needs to shut up and play. Jordan and Kobe would be winning titles with LeBron's supporting cast.
LeBron James rips Charles Barkley: You're the NBA bad boy, not me
Dave McMenamin
ESPN Staff Writer
DALLAS -- After years of being fodder for Charles Barkley to comment on in his role as an analyst on TNT's "Inside the NBA," LeBron James has heard enough.
"He's a hater," James told ESPN of Barkley following the Cleveland Cavaliers' 104-97 loss to the Dallas Mavericks on Monday. "What makes what he says credible? Because he's on TV?"
James had been stewing the past couple of days after Barkley took James to task for the four-time MVP calling out the Cavs for needing to fortify the roster with another playmaker to have a realistic shot at a repeat title.
"Inappropriate. Whiny. All of the above," Barkley said of James last week. "The Cleveland Cavaliers, they have given him everything he wanted. They have the highest payroll in NBA history. He wanted J.R. Smith last summer, they paid him. He wanted [Iman] Shumpert last summer. They brought in Kyle Korver. He's the best player in the world. Does he want all of the good players? He don't want to compete? He is an amazing player. They're the defending champs."
Barkley has consistently needled James, telling HBO's Bill Simmons over the summer that James would "never" ascend to top-five status in NBA history over Michael Jordan, Oscar Robertson, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Wilt Chamberlain, and going back all the way to 2010 and James' "The Decision" television special, when Barkley told ESPN Radio 103.3 FM in Dallas/Fort Worth that it was a "punk move" for James to leave the Cavs to take up with the Miami Heat.
James initially took the high road when asked about Barkley's recent comments, saying they were "good for the ratings," while defending his competitive spirit.
But after ESPN followed up with a story asking Tristan Thompson for his thoughts on Barkley's comments, James chose to speak out again in ardent fashion.
"I'm not going to let him disrespect my legacy like that," James told ESPN. "I'm not the one who threw somebody through a window. I never spit on a kid. I never had unpaid debt in Las Vegas. I never said, 'I'm not a role model.' I never showed up to All-Star Weekend on Sunday because I was in Vegas all weekend partying.
"All I've done for my entire career is represent the NBA the right way. Fourteen years, never got in trouble. Respected the game. Print that."
James, whose friendships with Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthony have also been called into question, recalled watching a 1993 NBA Finals game between Jordan's Chicago Bulls and Barkley's Phoenix Suns and being surprised what he saw on his screen.
"Go watch the '93 Finals when John Paxson hit the shot," James said. "Barkley and Jordan were laughing and joking with each other during one of the games while somebody's shooting a free throw. In the Finals. But, oh, nobody were friends back then."
Bringing up Anthony reminded James of another basketball luminary who has tweaked him this season -- New York Knicks president Phil Jackson -- and he had a story to share about Jackson as well.
"I went to see Melo at the Garden two years ago when we were in New York," James said. "They played Portland. I went up to a suite at halftime, and Phil Jackson didn't say one word to me."
This fall, Jackson brought up James unprompted in an interview with ESPN's Jackie MacMullan and described James and his close circle of business associates -- Rich Paul, Maverick Carter and Randy Mims -- as his "posse."
"I'm here to win ballgames and take care of my teammates and take care of my, what's that word, oh, my 'posse,'" James said, animatedly.
He had more words for Barkley too.
"I know he wanted to retire a long time ago, but he can't," James said. "He's stuck up on that stage every week."
James then issued a challenge, of sorts.
"And if this makes him want to talk to me, the schedule's out there," James said. "He knows every road arena I'll be in. Don't just come up to me at All-Star and shake my hand and smile."
It was James' second bout of frustration shared with the media in a week, as the Cavs finished out January going 7-8. It was the first time James has had a losing record in a calendar month with at least 10 games played since February 2006 -- his third season in the NBA -- when the Cavaliers went 6-8, according to ESPN Stats & Information.
James also spoke up about the perception he and his inner circle face as young, successful black businessmen, believing that identity being so rare in the power structure of professional sports makes him and his partners targets.
"I collect one paycheck from this," James said of his role with the Cavs. "There's the owner, Griff's [David Griffin] the GM, I'm the player. Screw Charles Barkley."
James put on his baseball cap and offered a parting thought as he prepared to leave the visitors locker room at the American Airlines Center to head to the airport for a flight back to Cleveland.
"I'm tired of biting my tongue," James said. "There's a new sheriff in town."
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18589897/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-throws-gauntlet-charles-barkley-hater
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:)
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it really really kills you guys that the KING is much better than all of your childhood heroes
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it really really kills you guys that the KING is much better than all of your childhood heroes
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that's him crying after winning a title
much like this
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that's him crying after winning a title
much like this
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Which championship was that for Jordan? First, second, third, fourth, fifth, or sixth? :)
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it's funny to see you guys criticize the KING for crying when this has become the most famous meme of all time
even funnier when jordan absolutely hates how people make fun of him for it ;D
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it's funny to see you guys criticize the KING for crying when this has become the most famous meme of all time
even funnier when jordan absolutely hates how people make fun of him for it ;D
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If LeBron was 5'8" instead of 6'8" he'd be robbing convenience stores right now.
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If LeBron was 5'8" instead of 6'8" he'd be robbing convenience stores right now.
;D
I sometimes watch Deandre Jordan and think what he would be doing if he wasn't a basketball player.
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If LeBron was 5'8" instead of 6'8" he'd be robbing convenience stores right now.
ok if that makes you feel better about him being the best player of all time :)
safe to say most guys wouldn't be in the nba if they weren't tall
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ok if that makes you feel better about him being the best player of all time :)
safe to say most guys wouldn't be in the nba if they weren't tall
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IT4 says he would be the best player if he were 6'5
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Kyrie Irving requesting trade out of Cleveland to find bigger role
Brian Windhorst
ESPN Senior Writer
Kyrie Irving is ready to end his run with the Cleveland Cavaliers, as league sources told ESPN that the point guard has asked the team to trade him.
The request came last week and was made to Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert. Irving has expressed that he wants to play in a situation where he can be more of a focal point and that he no longer wants to play alongside LeBron James, sources said.
Among several possibilities discussed in Irving's meeting with the Cavaliers, the San Antonio Spurs were raised as a preferred destination, league sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. Other teams Irving said he'd be willing to join were the New York Knicks, Miami Heat and Minnesota Timberwolves, league sources told ESPN.
The Knicks have strong interest in acquiring Irving via trade, but as of Friday night, they were not willing to include Kristaps Porzingis in any potential deal, league sources told ESPN's Ian Begley. The Knicks, sources told Begley, would consider including Carmelo Anthony and future first-round picks in a package for the All-Star point guard. The Cavaliers' interest in such a package is unclear.
Irving also considered the Chicago Bulls before they traded Jimmy Butler, league sources told Begley.
LeBron James has told the Cavaliers he is focused on his offseason workout regimen and is planning to report to training camp with the intention of leading his teammates to a fourth consecutive Finals no matter who those teammates are, sources told ESPN.
Altman set to be named Cavs GM, sources say
A formal announcement to announce the promotion of Koby Altman from assistant general manager to GM is expected from the Cavaliers soon, sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.
Could the Cleveland Cavaliers win a Kyrie Irving trade?
Kyrie Irving is ready to leave LeBron. Should the Cavs make a move? Kevin Pelton examines possible trade options.
Irving's agent, Jeff Wechsler, would not confirm or deny whether the point guard asked for a trade.
"Kyrie and I had a meeting with Cavs leadership where we discussed many different scenarios in reference to Kyrie and his future with the team," Wechsler told Wojnarowski. "The basis of those discussions and what went on in those discussions are between the Cavs and us. We are respectfully going to keep those private."
Sources told ESPN's Chris Haynes that the Cavaliers were disturbed that Irving's request was made public, believing it could affect his trade value.
The Cavaliers parted with general manager David Griffin last month after they couldn't come to an agreement on a contract extension. Cleveland has yet to name Griffin's replacement -- sources told ESPN's Wojnarowski that promoting assistant general manager Koby Altman to GM is imminent -- and James, the franchise centerpiece, has reportedly expressed concern about the team's direction.
James was informed of Irving's request and was blindsided and disappointed, sources said. Irving did talk about the meeting to several other teammates, a league source told ESPN's Dave McMenamin.
News of the request comes days after Irving told Sports Illustrated that the Cavaliers were in a "very peculiar" place this offseason.
"We just have to, you know, make sure that all our pieces are aligned first, and then we go from there," Irving told the magazine. "It's the summertime, a lot of craziness going on in the NBA."
Irving, 25, has been with the Cavaliers since they made him the No. 1 overall pick in the 2011 draft. After Irving and the Cavs plodded through three losing seasons, their fortunes changed when James returned. The Big Three of James, Irving and Kevin Love has reached the past three NBA Finals, winning the title in 2016.
Love appeared to allude to Irving's request in a tweet Friday, saying, "Things are a little peculiar."
Kevin Love ✔ @kevinlove
Life is amazing. No complaints. Things are a little peculiar. But no complaints. Now go kick some rocks 🙌🏼 https://twitter.com/insidehoops/status/888499877201801217 …
11:53 AM - 21 Jul 2017
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How to handle Irving's situation is complex for the Cavs, as James can be a free agent next summer. Irving has three years and $60 million left on his contract, but he can opt out of the final year before the 2019-20 season.
By asking for a trade, Irving would be willingly giving up the chance to qualify for and sign a "supermax" contract with the Cavs in 2019. This provision, installed in the just-started collective bargaining agreement, was meant to deter star players from leaving their teams as they came up on their third contract. This is when numerous stars want to move, as has played out with Kevin Durant, Gordon Hayward and Paul George.
Irving's contract contains a 15 percent trade bonus that would pay him an additional $2.9 million in both the 2017-18 and 2018-19 seasons.
After winning the Eastern Conference title in May, Irving described his closeness with James and how staying together can benefit them.
"When you get to that level of trust and you allow someone to come into a friendship that extends well off the court," Irving said, "and you understand how great this era can be if we are selfless to the point where we don't think about anything else except for the greatness of our team and what we can accomplish."
Irving had a good relationship with Griffin, who was a point man in selling Irving on a five-year contract extension in 2014 even though the team was coming off four consecutive losing seasons.
Griffin understood that Irving's desires for his career had to be managed and worked regularly to challenge Irving and, at times, soothe him. Coach Tyronn Lue is also a strong supporter of Irving and has been a strong defender when Irving's game -- which is sometimes more shoot-first than pass-first for a point guard -- has come under criticism.
Focal Point
Kyrie Irving is seeking a trade out of Cleveland to become a team's cornerstone, sources told ESPN. But Irving played a big role for the Cavaliers last season, especially down the stretch of games, where he carried a bigger load than LeBron James.
Cavaliers in clutch, 2016-17 season
IRVING JAMES
FGAs 83 66
Usage pct. 36.2 32.1
Minutes 123 124
-- ESPN Stats & Information
When Irving signed his deal, he expected to be the franchise player for the foreseeable future. But about two weeks later, James arrived from Miami. The sudden change of situation rocked Irving, and he has vacillated at times over the past three years about working as a secondary star to James and the original plan of having his own team.
He discussed the challenge during last month's NBA Finals.
"Having just a tremendously great player like that come to your team, and you see yourself being one of those great players eventually, and then he ends up joining it and then now you have to almost take a step back and observe," Irving said. "Finding that balance is one of the toughest things to do because you have so much belief and confidence in yourself. ... Selfishly, I always wanted to just show everyone in the whole entire world exactly who I was every single time."
With this in mind, Irving considered requesting a trade after the Cavs' championship last season but decided against it, sources said.
Irving, a four-time All-Star, has averaged 21.6 points and 5.6 assists per game for his career. Last season, he averaged a career-high 25.2 points to go with 5.8 assists per game while shooting 40.1 percent on 3-pointers.
However, Irving has not excelled when playing without James. Last season, the Cavs were outscored by 90 points in 574 minutes when Irving played and James didn't. In the playoffs, they were outscored by 30 points in 61 minutes. In the Finals against the Golden State Warriors, the Cavs were outscored 37-13 when Irving was on the court and James was off.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20124505/kyrie-irving-seeking-trade-cleveland-cavaliers
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ESPN headline:
Sources- Kyrie seeks trade to evade Lebron.
Bwahahahaha!
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kyrie is tired of being the beta male, how is that a knock on the KING?
also we've all seen a person dump somebody because they know they are going to get dumped by them
kyrie is jumping off that sinking ship before the KING leaves
still the best player EVER 8)
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This should not be a knock on James.
Irving is being a bitch. That team he's on has given him the chance to play in the NBA finals every year, and make a shit ton of cash.
If he was smart, he'd just wait a year until James leaves then go from there.
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This should not be a knock on James.
Irving is being a bitch. That team he's on has given him the chance to play in the NBA finals every year, and make a shit ton of cash.
If he was smart, he'd just wait a year until James leaves then go from there.
Overall, I don't think it's necessarily a knock on either one of them. LeBron has been holding the franchise hostage by signing short term deals and making demands for certain players. The team is built around LeBron, but he might leave after next year. I don't fault him for any of that.
If LeBron leaves next year, Cleveland becomes a bottom dweller again, but Irving would still be there. I don't fault Irving for taking the initiative to try and control his own destiny.
That said, I did hear today that LeBron was pushing for the Cavs to trade Irving for Chris Paul AFTER they won the title last year, and that Irving recently found out about it. That might partly explain Irving's motivation to leave.
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Lebron James couldn't be a bigger pussy if he was Amy Schumer's pussy.
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Hey, remember when Dirk Nowitzki beat LeBron in the NBA Finals? ;D
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hey remember when jordan failed to get the wizards to the playoffs in a horrible conference and then got fired ;D
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Hey, remember when Tim Duncan beat LeBron in the NBA Finals?...................Twice .
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Many older fans are just failing to realize that the NBA has changed. Social media has helped fuel player's and team's offseasons, and turned it into a 24/7, 365 day a year soap opera.
Do I agree with guys constantly switching team's? No.
Will LeBron leave for the Lakers after this season? Who knows, but it adds to the drama.
Montana went to the Chiefs.......Jordan went to the Wizards.....
If they can play for another team (albeit for different reasons) then nobody is out of the question.
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Hey, remember when Tim Duncan beat LeBron in the NBA Finals?...................Twice .
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yeah such shame in losing to one of the best players of all time while also having a much better team and coach ::)
that rapist kobe lost to him countless times
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yeah such shame in losing to one of the best players of all time while also having a much better team and coach ::)
that rapist kobe lost to him countless times
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Actually idiot, on the way to his 5 championship rings, Kobe's Lakers beat Duncan's Spurs in the playoffs 4 times, they lost to the Spurs only twice.
LeBronze beat Duncan once and it took a miracle shot from Ray Allen to do it. He should be 0 and 3.
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Actually idiot, on the way to his 5 championship rings, Kobe's Lakers beat Duncan's Spurs in the playoffs 4 times, they lost to the Spurs only twice.
LeBronze beat Duncan once and it took a miracle shot from Ray Allen to do it. He should be 0 and 3.
duncan beat him twice
once where it was the KING and a bunch of nobodies, parker was finals mvp
the other time where kawhi was the best player on the team, finals mvp
now spin this whatever stupid way you want like a jilted ex girlfriend :-*
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Hey, do you know who else beat Lebron twice in the Finals? Bwahahaha...
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If he is the best player in the world who has surrounded himself with at least 2 other all-stars every year since 2010......why is he getting smashed in the Finals all the time?
Can you imagine what it's gonna be like next season when he gets beaten again? Haha, fucking phaggot.
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What's even better is that this uneducated potato is pretending to be a leader speaking out about societal issues that he clearly doesn't understand.
The blind leading the blind.
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Hey, do you know who else beat Lebron twice in the Finals? Bwahahaha...
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If he is the best player in the world who has surrounded himself with at least 2 other all-stars every year since 2010......why is he getting smashed in the Finals all the time?
Can you imagine what it's gonna be like next season when he gets beaten again? Haha, fucking phaggot.
kyrie and love didn't play in the finals, where curry wasn't even mvp and got owned by dellavadova
the warriors last year with durant were the best team of all time, and if the warriors won the year before that they could've made an argument for best all time but they lost to the KING
haha you are owned again and forever salty over Lebron being the best all time ;D
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What's even better is that this uneducated potato is pretending to be a leader speaking out about societal issues that he clearly doesn't understand.
The blind leading the blind.
standing up for what you believe in is called being alpha, you don't understand because you are total beta
jordan "republicans buy shoes too" ::)
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Excuses, excuses, excuses.
He's a fucking potato and the fact that you idolize him and make excuses for him doesn't reflect very well on you.
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Excuses, excuses, excuses.
He's a fucking potato and the fact that you idolize him and make excuses for him doesn't reflect very well on you.
facts, facts, facts
he's the best all time and the fact you hate on him constantly doesn't reflect very well on you
you shit on him for having good teammates, and then praise curry who plays on the most stacked team ever, then you talk about duncan who wasn't even the best player on his own team at that point
doesn't matter the KING beat both even when both had better teams
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6 loses in the NBA Finals. Hahahahaha!
Now his fans are scrambling to explain how his 6 finals losses are better than Jordan's 6 Finals wins.
Lebron's fan base is now called the 3-6 Mafia. lol. Fucking phaggots.
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6 loses in the NBA Finals. Hahahahaha!
Now his fans are scrambling to explain how his 6 finals losses are better than Jordan's 6 Finals wins.
Lebron's fan base is now called the 3-6 Mafia. lol. Fucking phaggots.
best player of all time
no other player could carry that JV team to the finals
jordan beat weak teams while having his own all star team, quit basketball twice because he couldn't handle the grind, came back and failed to take his team to the playoffs
arguably the worst GM ever
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best player of all time
no other player could carry that JV team to the finals
jordan beat weak teams while having his own all star team, quit basketball twice because he couldn't handle the grind, came back and failed to take his team to the playoffs
arguably the worst GM ever
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Hahahaha. I'm glad you replied so I can laugh at you again.
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Getting to the Finals isn't an accomplishment. Excuses are for losers.
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Hahahaha. I'm glad you replied so I can laugh at you again.
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Getting to the Finals isn't an accomplishment. Excuses are for losers.
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and i'm glad you randomly decided again to voice your depression over the king surpassing that quitter jordan
has he ever even built a team that made the playoffs? luckiest guy ever he never won shit until elite players got old (magic, kareem, bird, thomas) or guys before their prime (shaq, kobe, duncan)
padded his resume against little gary payton and john stockton, and two year wonders like vin baker and shawn kemp, and far inferior versions of the elite players i listed like malone and barkley
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and i'm glad you randomly decided again to voice your depression over the king surpassing that quitter jordan
has he ever even built a team that made the playoffs? luckiest guy ever he never won shit until elite players got old (magic, kareem, bird, thomas) or guys before their prime (shaq, kobe, duncan)
padded his resume against little gary payton and john stockton, and two year wonders like vin baker and shawn kemp, and far inferior versions of the elite players i listed like malone and barkley
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Even if any of this bullshit was true, it doesn't change the fact that Lebron loses time and time again where other people players like MJ, Magic, Kareem, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, etc, have won.
He loses, and then, Lebron and the 3-6 Mafia try to convince people that he is the best...with a bunch of excuses. I'm sorry, but getting to the Finals isn't an accomplishment. 2nd place just means you are the best of all the losers.
Now he's going to bail on his team for the third time and try to join up with a bunch of other elite players and ring chase because he is an insecure phaggot.
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Even if any of this bullshit was true, it doesn't change the fact that Lebron loses time and time again where other people players like MJ, Magic, Kareem, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, etc, have won.
He loses, and then, Lebron and the 3-6 Mafia try to convince people that he is the best...with a bunch of excuses. I'm sorry, but getting to the Finals isn't an accomplishment. 2nd place just means you are the best of all the losers.
Now he's going to bail on his team for the third time and try to join up with a bunch of other elite players and ring chase because he is an insecure phaggot.
all except MJ lost in the finals and multiple times, and they lost to worst teams than the warriors, MJ beat shitty teams and wasn't good enough to get to the finals when the celtics and pistons were good, so he was worst than 2nd place
you are insecure with him surpassing your childhood heroes, and what the hell is a "phaggot"?
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and what the hell is a "phaggot"?
Look in the mirror and you'll find the answer.
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LeBron is 1-8 in the Finals the last two years.
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Look in the mirror and you'll find the answer.
be a man and spell it with an F, and you would know since you feel the need to defend that quitter jordan every time the KING tops his accomplishments ;)
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LeBron is 1-8 in the Finals the last two years.
that's one more win than every other player in nba history would have against those warriors, the best team of all time
i'm in awe he was able to win one game against them with that JV team of his
it's not like he's playing against greg ostertag and bryan russel out there
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that's one more win than every other player in nba history would have against those warriors, the best team of all time
i'm in awe he was able to win one game against them with that JV team of his
it's not like he's playing against greg ostertag and bryan russel out there
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Lebron is the biggest flopper and shit talker of all time. You know how he wins? Flops to draw a foul. So happy the warriors swept his happy ass. He's the one who assembled his own Cavs team and still lost 3 times lol.
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After re-reading this thread for a few minutes today I have to say that I took a Giant shit on Earl. Page after page. Tore him a new asshole.
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After re-reading this thread for a few minutes today I have to say that I took a Giant shit on Earl. Page after page. Tore him a new asshole.
haha get real your attempts at "tearing me a new asshole" worked as well as jordan getting the wizards to the playoffs :D
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haha get real your attempts at "tearing me a new asshole" worked as well as jordan getting the wizards to the playoffs :D
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In all seriousness, your comebacks have been childlike and sad.
I wish you would just take your beating like a man and admit that you got forcibly sodomized in this thread.
Dry.
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In all seriousness, your comebacks have been childlike and sad.
I wish you would just take your beating like a man and admit that you got forcibly sodomized in this thread.
Dry.
you're the one bumping up an old thread pretending you "won" but yeah i'm the one that's childlike and sad
you need to convince yourself you didn't get owned, you'd have a better chance of convincing me jordan drafting kwame brown number 1 overall was a good idea
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Did you see on ESPN lately? They reported that Lebron reached out to Kevin Durant to gauge his interest in teaming up with him in LA next summer.
Bwahahahaha! Lebron is a hoe.
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Still not happy I have to root for that guy. :-\
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Pure lunacy on Earls part to say Jordan isn’t the best or was overrated.
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Pure lunacy on Earls part to say Jordan isn’t the best or was overrated.
Lebron is dominating a stronger league
lunacy is thinking beating the jazz or sonics is the same as beating the warriors
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Lebron is acting like a ho this season. It's obvious that he has given up on ever beating the Warriors again. He's just cashing checks now.
Kuzma actually had to shove LeBron towards his man in order to get him to play defense. He's taking plays off and doesn't want to compete. Lazy bitch.
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Lebron is acting like a ho this season. It's obvious that he has given up on ever beating the Warriors again.
Kuzma actually had to shove LeBron towards his man in order to get him to play defense. He's taking plays off and doesn't want to compete. Lazy bitch.
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still far better than jordan with the wizards ;D
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Not impressed with LeGroin.
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I rest my case.
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No excuses now for LeGroin. Kobe won all his titles with only one superstar teammate.
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No excuses now for LeGroin. Kobe won all his titles with only one superstar teammate.
kobe is not better than Lebron, that argument has been dead for years
only jordan can be argued to be better, deal with it
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kobe is not better than Lebron, that argument has been dead for years
only jordan can be argued to be better, deal with it
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Yeah whatever. LeGroin needs to deliver. I still don't like him, but I hope he wins.
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I think the Bulls with Lebron instead of Jordan would still have 6 titles.
I think the Cavs with Jordan instead of Lebron would not have beaten Golden State.
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I wonder why Kawhi didn't want to play with LeGroin?
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He is afraid of Lebron's humungous, ebony cock.
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I wonder why Kawhi didn't want to play with LeGroin?
maybe because he would be the beta, as Lebron is the King
i wonder why michael jordan quit like a bitch to play baseball
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maybe because he would be the beta, as Lebron is the King
i wonder why michael jordan quit like a bitch to play baseball
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Because his father's murder caused him to reevaluate his priorities in life. What does Jordan have to do with Kawhi not wanting to play with LeGroin?
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I've now watched LeBron more than I have at any time in his career this season. I have a better appreciation for his game. Outstanding decision making with the ball in his hands. When he decides to get to the rim nobody can stop him. He's a freak (size, speed, skill).
I can also see even more clearly that he is no MJ or Kobe or even Bird. He does not have their killer instinct. He is not clutch. He is afraid to take the final shot. He takes pull-up jumpers and fade aways way too often in crunch time, when he should be getting to the rim. And his free throw shooting sucks.
I still hate having to root for him, but I like his game more now than I did a year ago.
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I've now watched LeBron more than I have at any time in his career this season. I have a better appreciation for his game. Outstanding decision making with the ball in his hands. When he decides to get to the rim nobody can stop him. He's a freak (size, speed, skill).
I can also see even more clearly that he is no MJ or Kobe or even Bird. He does not have their killer instinct. He is not clutch. He is afraid to take the final shot. He takes pull-up jumpers and fade aways way too often in crunch time, when he should be getting to the rim. And his free throw shooting sucks.
I still hate having to root for him, but I like his game more now than I did a year ago.
stop it with the kobe and bird comparisons to the KING
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stop it with the kobe and bird comparisons to the KING
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When it comes to killer instinct, clutch play, etc. there isn't much of a comparison. LeBron doesn't have it.
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When it comes to killer instinct, clutch play, etc. there isn't much of a comparison. LeBron doesn't have it.
lebron carried bad teams to the finals, kobe missed the playoffs with bad teams
that argument has been dead for years, let it rest in peace just like kobe
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You can argue Lebron or Jordan and I can see it both ways. But, when I ask myself if Jordan was on the Cavs instead of Lebron would they have beaten Golden State? I tend to think not. Likewise, if you put Lebron on any of the 6 Bulls teams that won championships instead of Jordan I think they still would have won.
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lebron carried bad teams to the finals, kobe missed the playoffs with bad teams
that argument has been dead for years, let it rest in peace just like kobe
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I'm talking about clutch play and killer instinct. There is no debate. MJ, Kobe, and Bird are all better than LeBron in that regard. It's not even close.
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I'm talking about clutch play and killer instinct. There is no debate. MJ, Kobe, and Bird are all better than LeBron in that regard. It's not even close.
this is nonsense, skip bayless said it 10 years ago because he couldn't carry one bad cavs team to the finals and now every lebron hater says the same thing
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this is nonsense, skip bayless said it 10 years ago because he couldn't carry one bad cavs team to the finals and now every lebron hater says the same thing
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Who cares what Skip Bayless says? I'm talking about facts. And the eyeball test. I watched Bird, MJ, Kobe, and LeBron in crunch time. I know exactly what I have seen. I see LeBron, repeatedly, passing on crunch time shots, refusing to take the ball to the rim, and missing free throws.
Focus. I'm not talking about their total game. I'm talking about what each player did late in the fourth quarter of games.
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Who cares what Skip Bayless says? I'm talking about facts. And the eyeball test. I watched Bird, MJ, Kobe, and LeBron in crunch time. I know exactly what I have seen. I see LeBron, repeatedly, passing on crunch time shots, refusing to take the ball to the rim, and missing free throws.
Focus. I'm not talking about their total game. I'm talking about what each player did late in the fourth quarter of games.
many people care what he says apparently, because like i said he said 10 years ago the KING isn't clutch and now people are still saying it to this day
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many people care what he says apparently, because like i said he said 10 years ago the KING isn't clutch and now people are still saying it to this day
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I know Skip Bayless isn't a LeBron fan, but he doesn't tell me what to think. I just believe what I see.
I'm not a LeBron fan, but I'm able see what he is great at and I see what he's not so great at. Just my opinion, but it's based on my own evaluation, not what some talking head says.
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I still hate having to root for LeBron, but I'm glad my Lakers are back in the Finals after 10 years. It has been a rough stretch.
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LeBron couldn't get it done without The Brow. Anthony Davis is the best player on that Lakers squad. Now they are gone fishing. Gotta figure out what to do with all that extra time I'll have during the NBA playoffs.
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LeBron couldn't get it done without The Brow. Anthony Davis is the best player on that Lakers squad. Now they are gone fishing. Gotta figure out what to do with all that extra time I'll have during the NBA playoffs.
Please tell me you are not saying AD is better than Lebron?
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Please tell me you are not saying AD is better than Lebron?
They don't play the same position, but do I think he's a better overall player than LeBron? Yes.
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They don't play the same position, but do I think he's a better overall player than LeBron? Yes.
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Great discussion.
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Great discussion.
If you want to argue Jordan, Kobe, Kareem, Oscar, Bird, Duncan and maybe a few others I'm not mentioning fine. But there just isn't any discussion about Lebron and AD. Sorry, I have nothing more to offer.
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If you want to argue Jordan, Kobe, Kareem, Oscar, Bird, Duncan and maybe a few others I'm not mentioning fine. But there just isn't any discussion about Lebron and AD. Sorry, I have nothing more to offer.
I am talking about today, not some career long body of work. And you haven't offered anything but an eye roll. But I understand. It's difficult to have a discussion that involves film, offense, defense, range, free throws, etc. when you haven't really done any analysis.
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Brutal.
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I am talking about today, not some career long body of work. And you haven't offered anything but an eye roll. But I understand. It's difficult to have a discussion that involves film, offense, defense, range, free throws, etc. when you haven't really done any analysis.
Today's version of Lebron is still better than whatever AD's peak has been thus far. AD is just about done. He's not a pussy, but he's brittle and he isn't getting any younger.
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Today's version of Lebron is still better than whatever AD's peak has been thus far. AD is just about done. He's not a pussy, but he's brittle and he isn't getting any younger.
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How many Laker games did you watch last year and this year when both AD and LeBron played?
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How many Laker games did you watch last year and this year when both AD and LeBron played?
AD is terrific when healthy. No doubt. I'd rather have Lebron, Harden, Giannis, Durant and Doncic than AD. Just off the top of my head.
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AD is terrific when healthy. No doubt. I'd rather have Lebron, Harden, Giannis, Durant and Doncic than AD. Just off the top of my head.
I think the answer to my question is zero. I recommend watching him play. You'll at least have an informed opinion.
I've been a Laker fan for my entire life. I watch pretty much every Laker game every season, including when they stink, which has been way too often the past ten years or so.
AD has a complete game on both ends of the floor. He's a dominant force and there really isn't a 4 or 5 in the NBA who can guard him. He's a game changer on defense. Blocks shots. Alters shots. Steals. Good passer. And he has handles. The only knock is his health. Barkley called him "Street Clothes." That kinda hurt. lol
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I think the answer to my question is zero. I recommend watching him play. You'll at least have an informed opinion.
I've been a Laker fan for my entire life. I watch pretty much every Laker game every season, including when they stink, which has been way too often the past ten years or so.
AD has a complete game on both ends of the floor. He's a dominant force and there really isn't a 4 or 5 in the NBA who can guard him. He's a game changer on defense. Blocks shots. Alters shots. Steals. Good passer. And he has handles. The only knock is his health. Barkley called him "Street Clothes." That kinda hurt. lol
You are correct in that I didn't answer your question. You are incorrect in your assumption. I don't know how many Laker games I watched this year but it was more than a few. My opinion is informed (your snarky tone wasn't lost on me) and you will not find any credible basketball person who thinks he's better than Lebron.
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You are correct in that I didn't answer your question. You are incorrect in your assumption. I don't know how many Laker games I watched this year but it was more than a few. My opinion is informed (your snarky tone wasn't lost on me) and you will not find any credible basketball person who thinks he's better than Lebron.
Snarky. I like that word. :) Hard to read tone in writing, but nothing snarky about my comment. Just stating a fact: if you actually watch him play you'll have a more informed opinion, regardless of what that opinion is. I'm not trying to get you to agree with me. I don't care. I never try to get people to change their minds about anything. That's not how human nature works. I just try and get people to think.
I haven't surveyed what "credible basketball persons" think about LeBron versus AD, but again I really don't care what anyone else thinks. I trust my own judgment and my own eyes.
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Snarky. I like that word. :) Hard to read tone in writing, but nothing snarky about my comment. Just stating a fact: if you actually watch him play you'll have a more informed opinion, regardless of what that opinion is. I'm not trying to get you to agree with me. I don't care. I never try to get people to change their minds about anything. That's not how human nature works. I just try and get people to think.
I haven't surveyed what "credible basketball persons" think about LeBron versus AD, but again I really don't care what anyone else thinks. I trust my own judgment and my own eyes.
Fair enough. Snarky is a good word though, isn't it. I think AD is terrific on that we agree even though I already know you don't care if I or anyone agree with you. LOL. I just think Lebron is one of the 3 greatest players of all time. What is AD's contract situation? Is he a free agent? If LA were to resign him, they'd better get another stud to go along with him given that AD seems to be injury prone. All this being said, I wanted LA to win another championship. They were rolling before injuries set in. I want the Clippers to lose tonight. I don't like Kawhi Leonard at all.
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Fair enough. Snarky is a good word though, isn't it. I think AD is terrific on that we agree even though I already know you don't care if I or anyone agree with you. LOL. I just think Lebron is one of the 3 greatest players of all time. What is AD's contract situation? Is he a free agent? If LA were to resign him, they'd better get another stud to go along with him given that AD seems to be injury prone. All this being said, I wanted LA to win another championship. They were rolling before injuries set in. I want the Clippers to lose tonight. I don't like Kawhi Leonard at all.
AD just signed a 5 year contract. He's not going anywhere. With their cap situation, LA has to either get LeBron to take a pay cut or again sign some minimum contract veterans. Overall, if they get healthy and sign a shooter or two they should be fine.
I was saying for the entire second half of the season that they didn't look like a championship team. Injuries and new players killed their chance of developing on-the-court chemistry. Their starting five in the playoffs only had a handful of starts together. Not surprised at all that they lost. But gotta give props to Monty Williams and the Suns. Their improvement from last year to this year was amazing. And they outplayed LA.
I hate the Clippers and I don't like Kawhi either, especially after he punked the Lakers in free agency a couple years ago. lol I hope they lose to Dallas too.
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Suns are a nice looking team and adding Chris Paul was huge. He is so fucking good. Think he'll end up on the Lakers next year? Aren't him and Lebron pals?
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Suns are a nice looking team and adding Chris Paul was huge. He is so fucking good. Think he'll end up on the Lakers next year? Aren't him and Lebron pals?
They are really close. Paul is LBJ Jr.s godfather. Paul is under contract with the Suns next year, so I don't see him in LA. The Suns would have to cut him or trade him and I doubt they trade him within the division, if at all.
What I'm really watching is the Dame situation is Portland and Steph Curry having one year left on his contract. If LA gets either one of those assassins they will be back in the Finals IMO. Subject to injuries of course.
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They are really close. Paul is LBJ Jr.s godfather. Paul is under contract with the Suns next year, so I don't see him in LA. The Suns would have to cut him or trade him and I doubt they trade him within the division, if at all.
What I'm really watching is the Dame situation is Portland and Steph Curry having one year left on his contract. If LA gets either one of those assassins they will be back in the Finals IMO. Subject to injuries of course.
I agree.
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I agree.
Now look at that. We both let our guard down, had a discussion, and actually agreed with each other. :)
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Now look at that. We both let our guard down, had a discussion, and actually agreed with each other. :)
Crazy, isn't it.
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LeBron James now most hated player in NBA, study finds
By Victor Morton - The Washington Times - Monday, June 7, 2021
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jun/7/lebron-james-most-hated-player-nba-study-finds/
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Trying to stay relevant.
LeBron James set to change Lakers jersey number after release of upcoming Space Jam movie, per report
James last wore No. 6 when he was with the Miami Heat in 2014
By Jasmyn Wimbish
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-set-to-change-lakers-jersey-number-after-release-of-upcoming-space-jam-movie-per-report/
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Suns are a nice looking team and adding Chris Paul was huge. He is so fucking good. Think he'll end up on the Lakers next year? Aren't him and Lebron pals?
You might have spoke this into existence. :)
Suns' Chris Paul wants another big contract, but would it be smarter to opt in for $44.2 million next season?
Paul reportedly intends to decline his $44.2M player option and test free agency
By Brad Botkin
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/suns-chris-paul-wants-another-big-contract-but-would-it-be-smarter-to-opt-in-for-44-2-million-next-season/
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You might have spoke this into existence. :)
Suns' Chris Paul wants another big contract, but would it be smarter to opt in for $44.2 million next season?
Paul reportedly intends to decline his $44.2M player option and test free agency
By Brad Botkin
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/suns-chris-paul-wants-another-big-contract-but-would-it-be-smarter-to-opt-in-for-44-2-million-next-season/
I sure hope so. Although I do like the Suns with him. I've never liked Chris Paul until the past couple years. Always knew he was really good just thought he was a sneaky prick. He's approaching elite company in NBA point guard history.
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I sure hope so. Although I do like the Suns with him. I've never liked Chris Paul until the past couple years. Always knew he was really good just thought he was a sneaky prick. He's approaching elite company in NBA point guard history.
Yeah I agree. He is old though.
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Yeah I agree. He is old though.
Him and Lebron both are certainly up there. With Chris Paul being undersized, when he slips it will be fast. I look at Isiah Thomas and Allen Iverson. Both were All Stars one season and finished the next.
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Him and Lebron both are certainly up there. With Chris Paul being undersized, when he slips it will be fast. I look at Isiah Thomas and Allen Iverson. Both were All Stars one season and finished the next.
I'm thinking he can play a little longer because his game doesn't really rely on his athleticism.
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Chris Paul was on fire. That Suns team is playing the best basketball in the playoffs. I didn't realize this, but I heard someone say they actually had the best record in the NBA the second half of the season.
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LeBron James now most hated player in NBA, study finds
By Victor Morton - The Washington Times - Monday, June 7, 2021
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jun/7/lebron-james-most-hated-player-nba-study-finds/
doesn't he lead in jersey sales?
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doesn't he lead in jersey sales?
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I don't know, but wouldn't surprise me.
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The Suns look like a championship team. My first extended look at Devin Booker. That kid is really good. I wish LeBron had Booker's killer instinct.
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The Suns look like a championship team. My first extended look at Devin Booker. That kid is really good. I wish LeBron had Booker's killer instinct.
so devin booker is better than lebron ???
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so devin booker is better than lebron ???
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? I said LeBron doesn't have Booker's killer instinct. That doesn't mean Booker is a better overall player. Yet.
What has been become very clear to me now that I've watched pretty much every game LeBron has played since joining LA is he does not have that Jordan/Kobe assassin mentality. He's not clutch. He doesn't take over games late in the fourth. He's afraid to use his strength (getting to the rim) late in games, often either dishing or shooting pull-up/fadeaway jumpers.
Regarding Booker, if you haven't watched him play in these playoffs, you should. That kid is the real deal.
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he's no lebron and he never will be, only jordan has an argument to be better than jordan
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he's no lebron and he never will be, only jordan has an argument to be better than jordan
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I didn't call him LeBron. I don't know if he will ever be better, but it's silly to try and compare them when LeBron has played 18 years and Booker has played 6. We'll see how Booker's career goes, but he's a terrific player. I had never watched him play more than the times he played against LA before these playoffs. I knew about him scoring a lot of points, but never paid attention, other than when he played LA. He's really good.
But the only I point I made about Booker versus LeBron is that LeBron doesn't have Booker's killer instinct. Not exactly breaking news that LeBron lacks a killer instinct and does not have the clutch gene.
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Is there any chance that my Pistons don't draft Cade Cunningham? What are your thoughts on this lad?
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Is there any chance that my Pistons don't draft Cade Cunningham? What are your thoughts on this lad?
Haven't followed him so I don't have an informed opinion. Looks like the talking heads have him as the consensus top pick. What do you think about him?
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I didn't call him LeBron. I don't know if he will ever be better, but it's silly to try and compare them when LeBron has played 18 years and Booker has played 6. We'll see how Booker's career goes, but he's a terrific player. I had never watched him play more than the times he played against LA before these playoffs. I knew about him scoring a lot of points, but never paid attention, other than when he played LA. He's really good.
But the only I point I made about Booker versus LeBron is that LeBron doesn't have Booker's killer instinct. Not exactly breaking news that LeBron lacks a killer instinct and does not have the clutch gene.
lol so how many titles or finals appearances with bad teams does a guy need to have the "clutch gene"?
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Haven't followed him so I don't have an informed opinion. Looks like the talking heads have him as the consensus top pick. What do you think about him?
Just starting my research. He's a huge point guard. 6'8 230 and I like that he has a year of college ball under his belt. He's only 19. People are raving about him being the best player in a very good draft. I think they have to take him. Gotta look up his free throw %. Certainly don't want another Ben Simmons. With last years draft, Jerami Grant and this kid I should have relevant basketball to watch this year in the form of the Pistons. Plus, Troy Weaver may very well add some additional talent and Dwayne Casey is a very good coach.
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lol so how many titles or finals appearances with bad teams does a guy need to have the "clutch gene"?
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Just starting my research. He's a huge point guard. 6'8 230 and I like that he has a year of college ball under his belt. He's only 19. People are raving about him being the best player in a very good draft. I think they have to take him. Gotta look up his free throw %. Certainly don't want another Ben Simmons. With last years draft, Jerami Grant and this kid I should have relevant basketball to watch this year in the form of the Pistons. Plus, Troy Weaver may very well add some additional talent and Dwayne Casey is a very good coach.
Cool. Simmons is great if he's in the right system. But he suffers from that lack of work ethic that plagues todays players. Magic couldn't shoot when he came into the league. Thousands of jumpers later, he could knock them down. Jason Kidd was the same way (they called him "ayson" because he had no J). Numerous other stories like that. Kids today don't invest the time. Their fundamentals suck. I mean how hard can it be to spend a few hours in the gym every day shooting free throws when you make seven or eight figures a year for a part time job? I heard someone say Simmons' FT percent was lower than Shaq. Embarrassing.
In any event, good luck to your Pistons. They are due. I'll never forget the Bad Boys, the Jordan Rules, how I always wished I could punch Bill Laimbeer in the face, and how the Pistons stole a championship from my Lakers due to injury. lol :)
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Cool. Simmons is great if he's in the right system. But he suffers from that lack of work ethic that plagues todays players. Magic couldn't shoot when he came into the league. Thousands of jumpers later, he could knock them down. Jason Kidd was the same way (they called him "ayson" because he had no J). Numerous other stories like that. Kids today don't invest the time. Their fundamentals suck. I mean how hard can it be to spend a few hours in the gym every day shooting free throws when you make seven or eight figures a year for a part time job? I heard someone say Simmons' FT percent was lower than Shaq. Embarrassing.
In any event, good luck to your Pistons. They are due. I'll never forget the Bad Boys, the Jordan Rules, how I always wished I could punch Bill Laimbeer in the face, and how the Pistons stole a championship from my Lakers due to injury. lol :)
The stolen championship due to an injury was karma. The Lakers stole one the year before thanks to an injury. That being said, we swept the Lakers 4-0 where as the year before it was down to game 7. I think my Pistons have the better argument for having lost a championship to an injury. ;D
Back to the modern era, I am elated the Suns closed out the Clippers. I cannot stand Kawhi Leonard.
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The stolen championship due to an injury was karma. The Lakers stole one the year before thanks to an injury. That being said, we swept the Lakers 4-0 where as the year before it was down to game 7. I think my Pistons have the better argument for having lost a championship to an injury. ;D
Back to the modern era, I am elated the Suns closed out the Clippers. I cannot stand Kawhi Leonard.
I agree about the Suns, Clippers, and Leonard. Feel the same way about Paul George. This is the Suns championship to lose at this point, especially with injuries to the Bucks and Hawks best players.
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I agree about the Suns, Clippers, and Leonard. Feel the same way about Paul George. This is the Suns championship to lose at this point, especially with injuries to the Bucks and Hawks best players.
I liked Paul George better when he was with Indiana. He did redeem himself a little in my eyes by some of the huge games he had this series. If the Suns lose to either Milwaukee or Atlanta, they should feel ashamed.
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I liked Paul George better when he was with Indiana. He did redeem himself a little in my eyes by some of the huge games he had this series. If the Suns lose to either Milwaukee or Atlanta, they should feel ashamed.
Paul George was stupid to spurn the Lakers. He was mad because they didn't mortgage the future to trade for him and instead waited till he became a free agent. Pretty dumb.
Yes he was balling in the Suns series.
Given all the injuries, I would say if the Suns stay healthy and lose in the Finals they should feel ashamed.
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I would be very surprised if the Suns lost the series to Milwaukee.
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I would be very surprised if the Suns lost the series to Milwaukee.
Me too. The Suns have been the best team in the NBA since the second half of the regular season. And props to Chris Paul for joining a young team and leading them to the Finals, instead following the modern trend of creating a "super team."
That said, if he gets his ring, I would gladly welcome him back to the team he should have been playing for had the late David Stern not nixed the Pau for Paul trade. :)
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Me too. The Suns have been the best team in the NBA since the second half of the regular season. And props to Chris Paul for joining a young team and leading them to the Finals, instead following the modern trend of creating a "super team."
That said, if he gets his ring, I would gladly welcome him back to the team he should have been playing for had the late David Stern not nixed the Pau for Paul trade. :)
Yeah, Chris Paul was the icing on the cake of a team that's been baking for a while. For the last few years you could tell they were building something good. They aren't going away either unless they pay Paul a mega contract and can't keep other players. If he's smart he'll take a lesser deal and win more titles. He's got to win this one first.
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Yeah, Chris Paul was the icing on the cake of a team that's been baking for a while. For the last few years you could tell they were building something good. They aren't going away either unless they pay Paul a mega contract and can't keep other players. If he's smart he'll take a lesser deal and win more titles. He's got to win this one first.
Actually I think he has a better chance to win in LA. The Lakers would have probably beaten the Suns if The Brow was healthy.
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Actually I think he has a better chance to win in LA. The Lakers would have probably beaten the Suns if The Brow was healthy.
Maybe in the past but not now. AD is not going to become less injury prone as he gets older and Lebron is old. I hope he doesn't go to the Lakers. I'm tired of them just buying their team although the NBA wants them to always be relevant for ratings. If a star stays with a smaller market team and wins titles they will be legends in that city forever unlike playing in LA and just being a Hall of Famer among a bunch of others.
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I predict a noticeable drop off for Chris Paul next year. I also predict win or lose he doesn't stay in Phoenix. I'll further predict that without him Phoenix does not see the conference finals next year. The Lakers need to go younger than Chris Paul or treat him like Kawhi the pussy and let him play 40 games during the regular season.
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Maybe in the past but not now. AD is not going to become less injury prone as he gets older and Lebron is old. I hope he doesn't go to the Lakers. I'm tired of them just buying their team although the NBA wants them to always be relevant for ratings. If a star stays with a smaller market team and wins titles they will be legends in that city forever unlike playing in LA and just being a Hall of Famer among a bunch of others.
LA hasn't really bought a team. They were terrible after Kobe's last championships with Pau. They then drafted, signed LeBron, and traded almost of their young core for AD. That's nothing like LeBron joining super teams, Durant going to GS, Hardin et al. going to NJ, etc. I spent a lot of years watching them lose a whole of games. Painful.
I'm pretty selfish. I don't care one iota about small market teams. I only care about my Lakers. lol
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I predict a noticeable drop off for Chris Paul next year. I also predict win or lose he doesn't stay in Phoenix. I'll further predict that without him Phoenix does not see the conference finals next year. The Lakers need to go younger than Chris Paul or treat him like Kawhi the pussy and let him play 40 games during the regular season.
I would agree about the drop off if he had a game more like Russell Westbrook (relying on athleticism). Paul isn't all that athletic. Even if there is a drop off, I don't think it will have a big impact on his game.
I agree younger would be better, but this is a win now league.
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Big time choke job by the Suns. Outstanding performance by the Greek Freak.
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Big time choke job by the Suns. Outstanding performance by the Greek Freak.
Yep, Milwaukee dominated after the first couple games.
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i didn't follow the league at all this year after the blm nonsense
i thought the suns were heavy favorites, it seemed to be a coronation for chris paul yet they lost 4 in a row
did they get tired or what? normally in the nba the best team wins so what happened?
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Yep, Milwaukee dominated after the first couple games.
Always impressive when a team wins 4 in a row in the Finals.
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i didn't follow the league at all this year after the blm nonsense
i thought the suns were heavy favorites, it seemed to be a coronation for chris paul yet they lost 4 in a row
did they get tired or what? normally in the nba the best team wins so what happened?
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I think it's as simple as failing to take the ball out of The Greek Freak's hands. He dominated them in the last four games, including 50 yesterday. That's really on Monty Williams for not making adjustments. Plus CP3 was terrific in games 1 and 2, then disappeared in games 3-5. Booker went cold the last two games too.
The Suns had the best record in the NBA the second half of the season. But for what it's worth, LA was handling them in the playoffs before AD got hurt. I think LA would have beaten the Suns and the Bucks if they were healthy. Oh well. On to football season.
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I'm still wrestling with the Russell Westbrook trade, but overall it's definitely a talent upgrade. I like the intensity he brings.
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I'm still wrestling with the Russell Westbrook trade, but overall it's definitely a talent upgrade. I like the intensity he brings.
They are even worse as a shooting team now. IF AD stays healthy they will be alright. That's a big IF.
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They are even worse as a shooting team now. IF AD stays healthy they will be alright. That's a big IF.
If you just look at shooting percentages, they actually got better with Carmelo, Wayne Ellington, Kent Bazemore, and Malik Monk.
I do agree that AD staying healthy is key.