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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Natural Bodybuilding => Topic started by: Super Natural on October 31, 2006, 05:35:56 AM
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This was 2 days out from the IFBB South African Champs which I won (as a light weight)
It's very tough competeing in an untested show where the playing fields arn't even, but I do my best, Unfortunalty we have no Natural shows worth competeing in here in S.A :(..you guys are fortunate..but it does raise my standards, knowing what I'm up against ...and It's a sweet feeling when you bet 'em ;D
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damn dude i am very impressed!! you must be eating about 1000-1200 calories and 1 hour of cardio a day im assuming to get to that level. am i correct. im getting there but slowly.
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it must be great being that ripped, im not as ripped as you far from it , but i have good abs and its a great feeling and must feel really good to be as ripped as you, i was having these hot chicks touch my abs and they were like holy shit! hahaha
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Yeah, It was an awesome experience...I went as low as 1500 calories, was training 3 times a day (1 weight training session in the Am, then a high intensity cardio session at noon and another cardio session in the evening) ...for 6 weeks before the show. Man it was tough! I though I was going to literally die at some points :o It's only possible to stay that lean for short amounts of time,I'm not ripped like that all the time ...just when I "peak" for contests.
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Yeah, It was an awesome experience...I went as low as 1500 calories, was training 3 times a day (1 weight training session in the Am, then a high intensity cardio session at noon and another cardio session in the evening) ...for 6 weeks before the show. Man it was tough! I though I was going to literally die at some points :o It's only possible to stay that lean for short amounts of time,I'm not ripped like that all the time ...just when I "peak" for contests.
i know what you mean dude. if i eat normally for just one day i have to double diet for 2 days to get back where i was to continue to lose fat. im pretty sure you are still ripped.
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Damn, it takes some serious mental toughness to diet down like that. Well done. I am having a hard time just staying away from all the cookies and candy that is being put out around work today!!!
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Great condition. Congrats on your win! :)
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Good Luck, amazing condition!
What kind of watch is that by the way?
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It's a Sieko Kinetic..here's another pic I found from the evening show (Saturday) I was much fuller about 5 pounds heavier (More carbs and water) than the previous day at prejudging (Friday) lost a teeny bit of crispness but much more full.
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It's a Sieko Kinetic..here's another pic I found from the evening show (Saturday) I was much fuller about 5 pounds heavier (More carbs and water) than the previous day at prejudging (Friday) lost a teeny bit of crispness but much more full.
Finally a really sharp physique that we can all agree is natural! I did natural shows and the conditioning is one you can tell easily! Great job bro! ;)
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You have one of the most ripped physiques I have ever seen. What type of routine do you use? Please include the split and the amount of work sets per body part. It would be appreciated. If you could find the time to type out the complete routine that would be fantastic. I can't believe the level of conditioning you have.
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great conditioning. Very impressive! :o
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Wow dude, you were shredded. :o
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How do you do cardio?
Short, high intensity?
low intensity for long duration? (walking)?
somewhere in between?
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How do you do cardio?
Short, high intensity?
low intensity for long duration? (walking)?
somewhere in between?
Here's a link to an article I did on my style of cardio...
http://www.musclescience.co.za/training/from_flab_to_fab.htm
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You have one of the most ripped physiques I have ever seen. What type of routine do you use? Please include the split and the amound of work sets per body part. It would be appreciated. If you could find the time to type out the complete routine that would be fantastic. I can't believe the level of conditioning you have.
Here's a link to my diet and training breakdown...
http://www.musclescience.co.za/training/team_bodybuilder_routines.htm
http://www.musclescience.co.za/diets/bodybuilder_pre-contest_diets.htm
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I follow a similar routine but your reps are lower than mine. I generally use 2 work set per exercise. For some reason I'm surprised you work out with low sets and hit each body part once a week. I thought I would find a volume trainer. If you are truly natural what you have achieved is incredible.
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Congratulations on your win and on the level of conditioning you achieved.
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Congratulations on your win and on the level of conditioning you achieved.
Thanks Jrod, Not too shabby yourself! ;) I was really impressed when I saw your conditioning too (in the photo's on another thread on this forum.) I actually e-mailed a couple of them to Jose Raymond who I met at the IFBB World Champs last year in China. He was saying what phenominal shape you were in at the Team Universe.Here are his exact words..
"He came in second in the middle weights at this years Team Universe, He was in phenomenal shape. He could compete in that classic bodybuilding you’ve been talking about. By the way He’s only like 21 years old, still a full time student.
Jose Raymond"
So Keep it up man! you have a great future :)
P.S Humdullah Aykutlug is also one of my big time inspirations when it comes to conditioning, I actually met him in Egypt at the IFBB Worlds in 2002 He is totally unreal to see on stage! Beats out guys twice his size, and his posing is totally phenominal too.
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i think you could be much bigger if you did more volume. but you have totally figured out how to get the best conditioning no doubt! maybe you could give me some cutting tips and ill give you my volume program hahaha (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig240bak9.jpg)
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Thanks Jrod, Not too shabby yourself! ;) I was really impressed when I saw your conditioning too (in the photo's on another thread on this forum.) I actually e-mailed a couple of them to Jose Raymond who I met at the IFBB World Champs last year in China. He was saying what phenominal shape you were in at the Team Universe.Here are his exact words..
"He came in second in the middle weights at this years Team Universe, He was in phenomenal shape. He could compete in that classic bodybuilding you’ve been talking about. By the way He’s only like 21 years old, still a full time student.
Jose Raymond"
So Keep it up man! you have a great future :)
P.S Humdullah Aykutlug is also one of my big time inspirations when it comes to conditioning, I actually met him in Egypt at the IFBB Worlds in 2002 He is totally unreal to see on stage! Beats out guys twice his size, and his posing is totally phenominal too.
Thanks, I appreciate that.
So you've competed in the IFBB World Championships a couple of times; It must be alot of fun. Maybe one day I will get to do that show.
I took a look at your training and diet articles. Its interesting to note that I train very similarly to the way you do (Max-OT) and when I do cardio, I do 16 minute high intensity cardio. As far as diet goes, the structure is similar, the main difference is that i have (in terms of ratios) less fat and more protein.
Its nice to see similarities in other peoples training programs/diets.
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i think you could be much bigger if you did more volume. but you have totally figured out how to get the best conditioning no doubt! maybe you could give me some cutting tips and ill give you my volume program hahaha (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig240bak9.jpg)
I've tried volume training before with more sets and reps but it just wiped me out after a few weeks.I'm not saying volume doesn't work, maybe I just over did it.Also I also find shorter, heavy, more intense workout more time efficient.. especially with work etc.
Also I have no problem getting "big" it's just when you diet down you'll be surprised how little you weight when you get truly shredded, I ended up 30 pounds lighter than my offseason weight at the weigh in!
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Thanks, I appreciate that.
So you've competed in the IFBB World Championships a couple of times; It must be alot of fun. Maybe one day I will get to do that show.
I took a look at your training and diet articles. Its interesting to note that I train very similarly to the way you do (Max-OT) and when I do cardio, I do 16 minute high intensity cardio. As far as diet goes, the structure is similar, the main difference is that i have (in terms of ratios) less fat and more protein.
Its nice to see similarities in other peoples training programs/diets.
The slightly lower than AST recommended protein & higher fat thing was something I was trying out a while back. After reading an article on T Mag by Dr Lowery ...Basically he was saying a diet of between 80 -100 grams of fat is required for optimal testosterone production.
I have recently upped my protein a bit since then and dropped my fat a bit...just to see how I feel. here is what my diet looks like at the moment.
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What are your thoughts on cheat meals?
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What are your thoughts on cheat meals?
Precontest I don't cheat
Off season not much iether ...I just don't really like eating junk food it makes me feel sick afterwards... If I eat out I have steak or chicken etc. To me eating bread is a cheat meal! :)
The thing is you shouldn't crave that shit if you eat enough and properly.The whole eating junk to speed up your metabolism thing is crap too. If I want to have a refeed I eat more clean carbs.That being said I don't see having a once a week "free day" as being too much of a set back, just keep it in control and don't use it as an excuse to binge all day... just satisfy that phycological craving once in a while and and get back on track
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Precontest I don't cheat
Off season not much iether ...I just don't really like eating junk food it makes me feel sick afterwards... If I eat out I have steak or chicken etc. To me eating bread is a cheat meal! :)
The thing is you shouldn't crave that shit if you eat enough and properly.The whole eating junk to speed up your metabolism thing is crap too. If I want to have a refeed I eat more clean carbs.That being said I don't see having a once a week "free day" as being too much of a set back, just keep it in control and don't use it as an excuse to binge all day... just satisfy that phycological craving once in a while and and get back on track
i dissagree you need plenty of junkfood to speed up your metabolism. this is how i have halfway filled out my 6feet6 frame. i plan to be 350 pounds natural one day maybe ifn 5 years
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i dissagree you need plenty of junkfood to speed up your metabolism. this is how i have halfway filled out my 6feet6 frame. i plan to be 350 pounds natural one day maybe ifn 5 years
Maybe in your case it's different, i'm sure it's difficult to get in all the calories you need for growth at your height. (I mean just to get in 3500 calories of food look at what I eat in one day...it's not easy!)
As a general rule I'd say, as long as you're around 10-12% bodyfat in the off season I think it's OK for young meso/ecto'with fast metabolisms and big frames to get in some calories from junk food.
These are just my views but I find the better shape I stay in, in the off season the harder I am come contest time...PLus I don't want to get too use to eating burgers n' Pizza ...it's just too hard to wean myself off that stuff when it's time to diet! :)
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You look really good man, nice work.
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Maybe in your case it's different, i'm sure it's difficult to get in all the calories you need for growth at your height. (I mean just to get in 3500 calories of food look at what I eat in one day...it's not easy!)
As a general rule I'd say, as long as you're around 10-12% bodyfat in the off season I think it's OK for young meso/ecto'with fast metabolisms and big frames to get in some calories from junk food.
These are just my views but I find the better shape I stay in, in the off season the harder I am come contest time...PLus I don't want to get too use to eating burgers n' Pizza ...it's just too hard to wean myself off that stuff when it's time to diet! :)
You have inspired my fat ass to get in shape. I started this morn. I have no formula or nothing. Just do 30min of cardio 2 times a day and eat clean. Look at my fat ass face.
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Did you use ephedrine?
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Did you use ephedrine?
Yes, for the 6 weeks before the show I took ephadrine 3 times a day. More to control my hunger pains and give me mental energy for my intense cardio and weight training sessions.
I want to try my next contest without it though.... as I don't like the jitters and I started to suffer from insomnia in the last few weeks, In retrospect I have a feeling it may increase stress hormone release a bit too (not good).
So I do think it's very possible to get into the same condition without ephedrine.
As to wether that makes me a Natural bodybuilder... well you be the judge... considering what my competition are taking I don't feel it was "wrong" But I can promise you guys that was the only precontest Drug I took (also caffiene) the rest was just diet, hard training and SUFFERING! for a long period of time :)
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Yes, for the 6 weeks before the show I took ephadrine 3 times a day. More to control my hunger pains and give me mental energy for my intense cardio and weight training sessions.
I want to try my next contest without it though.... as I don't like the jitters and I started to suffer from insomnia in the last few weeks, In retrospect I have a feeling it may increase stress hormone release a bit too (not good).
So I do think it's very possible to get into the same condition without ephedrine.
As to wether that makes me a Natural bodybuilder... well you be the judge... considering what my competition are taking I don't feel it was "wrong" But I can promise you guys that was the only precontest Drug I took (also caffiene) the rest was just diet, hard training and SUFFERING! for a long period of time :)
I use ephedrine and I like it very much. I never have any problems with insomnia. Plus, ephedrine has been shown to help retain muscle mass while in a caloric deficit.
I do not consider ephedrine use to be un-natural. To me, natural is about not using steroids or growth hormone.
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Yes, for the 6 weeks before the show I took ephadrine 3 times a day. More to control my hunger pains and give me mental energy for my intense cardio and weight training sessions.
I want to try my next contest without it though.... as I don't like the jitters and I started to suffer from insomnia in the last few weeks, In retrospect I have a feeling it may increase stress hormone release a bit too (not good).
So I do think it's very possible to get into the same condition without ephedrine.
As to wether that makes me a Natural bodybuilder... well you be the judge... considering what my competition are taking I don't feel it was "wrong" But I can promise you guys that was the only precontest Drug I took (also caffiene) the rest was just diet, hard training and SUFFERING! for a long period of time :)
what was your dosage every-time you took it? did u take aspirin with the ephedrine and caffeine?
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what was your dosage every-time you took it? did u take aspirin with the ephedrine and caffeine?
No asprin, just 20mg ephadrine, which I combined with a ephadrine free thermogenic product which had 200 mg caffiene, green tea extract etc. I also found when I was feeling very tired BCAA capsules and L - tyrosine helped my mental focus quite a bit.
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WEDNESDAY (DAY 3) - Legs
The sets listed in the workout below do not include warm-up sets.
Sets
Reps*
Squats
3sets
4-6reps
45° Leg Press
2sets
4-6reps
Leg Curls
2sets
4-6reps
Stiff Leg Dead Lifts
2sets
4-6 reps
You only do 5 sets for quads? It is hard to belive Super Natural???!
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Awsome shape Super must of been hard to get that cut!
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No asprin, just 20mg ephadrine, which I combined with a ephadrine free thermogenic product which had 200 mg caffiene, green tea extract etc. I also found when I was feeling very tired BCAA capsules and L - tyrosine helped my mental focus quite a bit.
the Muscle Science Francis Benfatto BCAA's??? how many would you take?
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WEDNESDAY (DAY 3) - Legs
The sets listed in the workout below do not include warm-up sets.
Sets
Reps*
Squats
3sets
4-6reps
45° Leg Press
2sets
4-6reps
Leg Curls
2sets
4-6reps
Stiff Leg Dead Lifts
2sets
4-6 reps
You only do 5 sets for quads? It is hard to belive Super Natural???!
5 sets working sets is more than enough if you train very intensly, I know it may sound like low volume, but each one of those sets is done very heavy, to the apsolute max.Anyone who has trained with me can hardly walk after one of our leg workouts and for the 2 days after.
The other thing which can be confusing especially if you read flex, muscular developement etc. and the amount of sets the Pro's do, As anatural one has to realise that unless your also taking a what they are you'll never recover from that kind of volume long term,
To me their advice is irrelavant and my circumstances (Hormonal status).
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the Muscle Science Francis Benfatto BCAA's??? how many would you take?
5 to 10 grams BCAA worth of capsules at a time.
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What do I mean by intense?...Well, here's me doing cardio :)
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banging out 6 reps with 132 pound dumbells (3 weeks out from my contest)...
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I am allso life time drug free competitor. I am completed 25 years. But I have never try only 5 working sets for my competition. As a drug free atlete is very important training as well as recovery.
I do 9 working sets also i do drop sets, giga sets,.....to fel the burn in my muscle.
Here is my old pictures when I was junior...
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That are my new picture 8 week before contest.
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I am allso life time drug free competitor. I am completed 25 years. But I have never try only 5 working sets for my competition. As a drug free atlete is very important training as well as recovery.
I do 9 working sets also i do drop sets, giga sets,.....to fel the burn in my muscle.
Here is my old pictures when I was junior...
Your condition looks really good well done.
I guess you could say there are many paths to get to the top of the mountain.
I think the path I've chosen is working well for me right now, next year i'm going for Gold at the IFBB World Champs so we'll see if it gets me to the top ;D
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Your condition looks really good well done.
I guess you could say there are many paths to get to the top of the mountain.
I think the path I've chosen is working well for me right now, next year i'm going for Gold at the IFBB World Champs so we'll see if it gets me to the top ;D
Thanx.
I guess so many there are many paths to reach your goals. We just have to find the right path that works for us.
Are you gonna compete natural or with drugs at IFBB Worlds Champs?
You have chances compete with other guy because you are in light weigt cahategory.
I am 185 cm tall and I need a lot ...lot...... more mass to comptete with those guys.
That is just imposible natural.
Maybe It is still hope for me to compeate in classic bodybuilding (tall) cathegory at IFBB World Champs?
You have done gret job. Cogratulation for winning at competition in SA. :)
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Thanx.
I guess so many there are many paths to reach your goals. We just have to find the right path that works for us.
Are you gonna compete natural or with drugs at IFBB Worlds Champs?
You have chances compete with other guy because you are in light weigt cahategory.
I am 185 cm tall and I need a lot ...lot...... more mass to comptete with those guys.
That is just imposible natural.
Maybe It is still hope for me to compeate in classic bodybuilding (tall) cathegory at IFBB World Champs?
You have done gret job. Cogratulation for winning at competition in SA. :)
Definitly classic bodybuilding categorie, drug free. I've entered twice and not placed in top 15 in the open light weight/welter weight class it's very tough...I doubt you can win at the worlds nowadays drug free...I mean the USA Heavy weight overall winner from the T.U. this year didn't even feature at the Worlds recently and he's outstanding for a Natural.
I worked it out last night I'm 167 cm tall so 167-100 +2...means I have to weigh 69 kg! which will be tough weight to get down to.I'm 81kg now with abs...but I'm prepared to suffer :)
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I am on those photos 99kg. This year I have to improve some parts on me. So I will have to put more weights on me.
I am planin to have 105kg with my abs out. Around 10-11% of bodyfat off season.
Suffer is necesary for god result on world champs. That just the way it is!
What about your cardio when you are off season?
And do you take some time off training for 4-5days and how often?
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I am on those photos 99kg. This year I have to improve some parts on me. So I will have to put more weights on me.
I am planin to have 105kg with my abs out. Around 10-11% of bodyfat off season.
Suffer is necesary for god result on world champs. That just the way it is!
What about your cardio when you are off season?
And do you take some time off training for 4-5days and how often?
Off season - I do easy cardio 3 to 4 times a week(20 minutes walking on treadmill 15 degree incline, reasonably fast walking) just for general fitness/nutrient partitioning/recovery.
I train for 6 to 8 weeks and then take a full week off (no cardio or weights)
For the first week back I take it easy before I turn it up in the 2nd week.
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Off season - I do easy cardio 3 to 4 times a week(20 minutes walking on treadmill 15 degree incline, reasonably fast walking) just for general fitness/nutrient partitioning/recovery.
I train for 6 to 8 weeks and then take a full week off (no cardio or weights)
For the first week back I take it easy before I turn it up in the 2nd week.
That is the same I do off season.
After all we do have some same paths ;D
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Great condition SuperNatural. I have a question, What was your body fat percentage before you cut, and what was it after you cut. Thanks.
I have no idea, I just went by how I looked in my progress pics and the mirror, and my strength in the gym. I would guess 12-13 %, I'm not sure, I never got/get flabby or anything... just a bit smooth.
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F**k, now thats some motivation. You look awesome bro. I hate washing plastic containers (from a pic you posted). ;D
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F**k, now thats some motivation. You look awesome bro. I hate washing plastic containers (from a pic you posted). ;D
Me too! damn! ..my sink is like a mountain of tupperware at the end of the day! ha!ha! :)
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Me too! damn! ..my sink is like a mountain of tupperware at the end of the day! ha!ha! :)
Super Natural, where can I get more info on your style of cardio?Other than the site you already gave?
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Super Natural, where can I get more info on your style of cardio?Other than the site you already gave?
I havn't got any other articles up at the moment, but I'm working on some.Try a search on "max-ot cardio" on google.
I actually do 3 types of cardio during during contest prep, I alternate between high intensity 15 minute sessions (I discussed in the article) and 20 minute medium intensity cardio's during the week. then on the weekends I go for a low intensity hr. + long walk on both days.If cardio happens to fall on my leg day I always do a low intensity 20 min session.
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What time do you do cardio? Bed to treadmill?
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What time do you do cardio? Bed to treadmill?
my latest session is 5:30 pm or the latest 6:00 pm...Any later and it effects my sleep.
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But do you do cardio on an empty stomach before breakfast?
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But do you do cardio on an empty stomach before breakfast?
I know a lot of guys do this and swear by it, but I never, ever do or did, I just didn't think it was a good idea to do something potentially catabolic after not having eaten for 8 or so hours, I eat normally every 2 hrs to avoid this exact type of situation .
That being said ...IF I was to do it. I’d do very low intensity stuff like walking for an 45 min. and do the high intensity stuff later in the day. And I'd definitely have a good dose of BCAA before with perhaps some glutamine just to protect my muscle.
I think it's actually much more important to know how many calories you take in each day and if you're in a small deficient at the end of that day on a consistent basis.
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on average, how many calories did you burn in a 15 minute cardio session?
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on average, how many calories did you burn in a 15 minute cardio session?
about 280-300 kcal...well that's what the machine says a the end.I don't really think it's that accurate.I use it more as a guage, so i know I must hit that as a target (I use either the calories bured or the distance I go) I try to either match that or surrpase it the next time.The thing to bear in mind is my body still carries on burning calories at an excellerated rate afterwards unlike a slower session. My heart rate,breathing etc. takes quite a while to returnt homeostasis.So in that way short intense cardio probably equals if not exceeds the fat burning potential of a slower longer session.
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That's very similar to what I do.
Last night I did 15 minutes for 275 calories alternating between 5mph and 8mph at a 5% incline. My final sprint I go up to 9mph for 30 seconds.
Unfortunately, my fat loss seems to be at a snail's pace! My diet is right spot on, so is my training, and my cardio too. I think I just have poor genetics for fat loss :-\
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That's very similar to what I do.
Last night I did 15 minutes for 275 calories alternating between 5mph and 8mph at a 5% incline. My final sprint I go up to 9mph for 30 seconds.
Unfortunately, my fat loss seems to be at a snail's pace! My diet is right spot on, so is my training, and my cardio too. I think I just have poor genetics for fat loss :-\
Just keep at it, eventually your body will get the message...sometimes it isn't about changing anything , just time, persistense and patience.
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Nice work supernatural!
How many calories did you consume offseason, that is if you count em ofcourse
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unreal conditioning supernatural. well done.
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Nice work supernatural!
How many calories did you consume offseason, that is if you count em ofcourse
About 4000-3500 on workout days - +- 3000 on off days
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Super natural call me retarded but im confused about something. The max ot articled that I read about involving skip or other does mention that they set the machine on intervals, but does the intensity remain high throughout? Or is Max ot cardio normally the one minute full blast one minute low intensity kind of thing? thanks!!
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Super natural call me retarded but im confused about something. The max ot articled that I read about involving skip or other does mention that they set the machine on intervals, but does the intensity remain high throughout? Or is Max ot cardio normally the one minute full blast one minute low intensity kind of thing? thanks!!
I just went full blast (100 rpm) the whole session at the same resistance level (Maybe took it up one or two levels for the last 4 minutes) .Interval setting is fine,but from personal experience I found it important not to worked in your anerobic threshold during cardio while dieting but rather at just below (i.e. so you don't feel that burn in your muscle, you just want your lungs and heart to be pumping hard). I feel I literally got burnt out if I did interval type training especially when in a calorie deficiet ....The weight training was enough of a stress on my CNS without adding interval cardio.
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i think you could be much bigger if you did more volume. but you have totally figured out how to get the best conditioning no doubt! maybe you could give me some cutting tips and ill give you my volume program hahaha (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig240bak9.jpg)
No disrespect to you bro, but whatever this guys is doing is spot on for him. Volume doesn't equate to size. Intensity, weight, recovery and growth.
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Well, let's just say Super Natural, that you have inspired me to go to another level. Your structure and mine are very similar. Your contest condition and mine are very different. Congratulations! Maybe one day!
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Very inspiring Super Natural!
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that's called peeled,very good job and kept your lines without getting stringy lean .
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Super Natural, awesome info- what a informative great thread!
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Hi Super Natural
Are you going to be trying to competing in the Muscle Evolution comp on the 10th June in Cape Town?
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i think you could be much bigger if you did more volume. but you have totally figured out how to get the best conditioning no doubt! maybe you could give me some cutting tips and ill give you my volume program hahaha (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig240bak9.jpg)
Hahahahahahaha you're quite an ectomorphic wishful thinker...
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Hi Super Natural
Are you going to be trying to competing in the Muscle Evolution comp on the 10th June in Cape Town?
No, I'm focusing right now on the the regionals on the 25th August (18 weeks to go) and then the Ifbb Nationals a week later, Planing to come in as a welter weight with the same condition I had in 2005.Then I plan to compete 6 weeks later in the IFBB Worlds in South Korea in the classic bodybuilding division (under 170cm tall) I have to weigh under 71 kg for that.Here's were I am right now (about 80-82 kg.)
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Just as a matter of interest Here's a pic from my first contest as a junior which I won (I think i weighed like 62kg or something :) I'd been training for I think 2 or 3 years.
It was a small show in my Home town (Pietermaritzburg). Didn't know what the hell I was doing! but I worked my ass off...lost a lot of muscle along the way. It didn't help that I listened to advice from too many people. No too bad for a first show though.
the next pic is fast forwarded to 2005 IFBB nationals as a light weight (held in Capetown) Which I won.
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Super Natural that is a interesting move.......
Every one seems focused on the ME comp this year more than anything else.
Maybe because of the prize money or that it is a new show or that it is so large don't know.
Well it is one show that I am definitely going to watch this year.
I hope it all goes well and that you make it to the worlds.
By the way looking very nice at your present weight, at that weight I am definitely allot....uhm softer :)