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I haven’t really followed the story but when I started seeing all sorts of white liberal virtue signaling it came to my attention. I was thinking that maybe just this one time he really would be a “good boy” but a quick search of Wikipedia showed it’s not the case. When he robbed the Walmart he was 22 so he was obviously a thug punk.
Ahmaud Arbery was 25 years old. He had attended Brunswick High School, where he played football, and graduated in 2012. Previously in 2012, Arbery was arrested for bringing a handgun to a school gymnasium and then fleeing a police officer. He was convicted of carrying a weapon on campus and obstructing a law enforcement officer, and thus was sentenced to five years of probation.[13][14] In 2017, he was convicted of theft, for stealing a television from a Walmart store.
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White people are moronic for putting up with this. Yet another example of White people importing a problem, that person/group causing US grief, and somehow we ending up getting blamed for it. ::)
I got banned from Facebook for 30 days for saying that White men are tolerant until we're not - then borders change, full populations are displaced, and genocide is committed.
You know...EXACTLY WHAT LEFTISTS HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR DECADES THAT WHITE MEN DO.
So why did I get banned? Because I didn't say this from a position of GUILT, but from a position of strength.
Basically to the "people of colour":
White men control 94% of all the globe's nuclear weapons. Do you want to start this fight? Then it's on motherfuckers. Watch us pale-faces wipe you out with a few clicks of a button in the span of an afternoon.
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White people are moronic for putting up with this. Yet another example of White people importing a problem, that person/group causing US grief, and somehow we ending up getting blamed for it. ::)
I got banned from Facebook for 30 days for saying that White men are tolerant until we're not - then borders change, full populations are displaced, and genocide is committed.
You know...EXACTLY WHAT LEFTISTS HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR DECADES THAT WHITE MEN DO.
So why did I get banned? Because I didn't say this from a position of GUILT, but from a position of strength.
Basically to the "people of colour":
White men control 94% of all the globe's nuclear weapons. Do you want to start this fight? Then it's on motherfuckers. Watch us pale-faces wipe you out with a few clicks of a button in the span of an afternoon.
They should never have brought in Slaves from Africa, period!
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he good boy he dindu nuffin
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I haven’t really followed the story but when I started seeing all sorts of white liberal virtue signaling it came to my attention. I was thinking that maybe just this one time he really would be a good boy but a quick search of Wikipedia showed it’s not the case. When he robbed the Walmart he was 22 so he was obviously was a thug punk.
Ahmaud Arbery was 25 years old. He had attended Brunswick High School, where he played football, and graduated in 2012. Previously in 2012, Arbery was arrested for bringing a handgun to a school gymnasium and then fleeing a police officer. He was convicted of carrying a weapon on campus and obstructing a law enforcement officer, and thus was sentenced to five years of probation.[13][14] In 2017, he was convicted of theft, for stealing a television from a Walmart store.
Been following the story on the news. This I did not know. Perhaps the killers did the world a favor and eliminated someone who was a burden on society and primed to become an even bigger one? I hate thiefs.
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And so, just because he is jogging, they have a right to stop you with a gun? If it was reversed, would that be ok.
Bottom line, this was NOT OK. If they were so worried, they could of called the police. No, they chose to get into a fight with someone, and went it went bad, they killed him. Maybe not intentional, but they did. And they will lose in a trial for that.
If you are jogging, and two men come at you with a gun, with another one behind you in a car, anyone would be worried.
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And so, just because he is jogging, they have a right to stop you with a gun? If it was reversed, would that be ok.
Bottom line, this was NOT OK. If they were so worried, they could of called the police. No, they chose to get into a fight with someone, and went it went bad, they killed him. Maybe not intentional, but they did. And they will lose in a trial for that.
If you are jogging, and two men come at you with a gun, with another one behind you in a car, anyone would be worried.
That would depend if they were legally allowed to have a gun on them. If they were legally allowed to carry, then yes, they were legally allowed to stop someone on the street, with that gun in their possession.
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And so, just because he is jogging, they have a right to stop you with a gun? If it was reversed, would that be ok.
Bottom line, this was NOT OK. If they were so worried, they could of called the police. No, they chose to get into a fight with someone, and went it went bad, they killed him. Maybe not intentional, but they did. And they will lose in a trial for that.
If you are jogging, and two men come at you with a gun, with another one behind you in a car, anyone would be worried.
LOL!!!!
Blacks commit 56% of all gun violence in the USA, Ron! If the situation was reversed, LMAO!!!!
Young Black males are 3.5% of the American population, yet commit more gun violence than the entire 96.5% of the entire population of ANY race.
Imagine me telling you that some poor innocent Palestinian getting killed by a Jew in Israel, but you thinking "WTF, but Palestinians commit 99% of the bombings in Israel - why shouldn't Jews be on edge about that, and quick to defend themselves?"
Now that I've cited specific data on Black gun crime rates, I'd love to see you address any of those.
I also like that Jews get blamed for all the bullshit Palestinians are doing to them in Israel. Maybe by that, you will understand how frustrating this bullshit of blaming everyone else for the crimes of the perpetrators is to me as a White man.
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Been following the story on the news. This I did not know. Perhaps the killers did the world a favor and eliminated someone who was a burden on society and primed to become an even bigger one? I hate thiefs.
When I first heard it it sounded bad. The shooters do look like rednecks.
And I’m not saying they weren’t out of line. I just want to hear more.
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And so, just because he is jogging, they have a right to stop you with a gun? If it was reversed, would that be ok.
Bottom line, this was NOT OK. If they were so worried, they could of called the police. No, they chose to get into a fight with someone, and went it went bad, they killed him. Maybe not intentional, but they did. And they will lose in a trial for that.
If you are jogging, and two men come at you with a gun, with another one behind you in a car, anyone would be worried.
I believe it’s best to withhold judgment. The only way we know that he was out jogging is because his mother said so.
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/852464328/former-georgia-police-officer-and-his-son-arrested-in-the-death-of-ahmaud-arbery
Gregory McMichael and Travis McMichael are charged with murder and aggravated assault, according to a GBI press release. Gregory McMichael, 64, is a former investigator with the Brunswick district attorney's office and the father of Travis McMichael, 34.
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That would depend if they were legally allowed to have a gun on them. If they were legally allowed to carry, then yes, they were legally allowed to stop someone on the street, with that gun in their possession.
Legally allowed to have a gun and using that legal gun in this case are two totally different things.
On the surface, the two men had no fucking right to do this, and it seems like a case of taking the law into their own hands.
You should probably sit it out and wait.
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LOL!!!!
Blacks commit 56% of all gun violence in the USA, Ron! If the situation was reversed, LMAO!!!!
Young Black males are 3.5% of the American population, yet commit more gun violence than the entire 96.5% of the entire population of ANY race.
Imagine me telling you that some poor innocent Palestinian getting killed by a Jew in Israel, but you thinking "WTF, but Palestinians commit 99% of the bombings in Israel - why shouldn't Jews be on edge about that, and quick to defend themselves?"
Now that I've cited specific data on Black gun crime rates, I'd love to see you address any of those.
I also like that Jews get blamed for all the bullshit Palestinians are doing to them in Israel. Maybe by that, you will understand how frustrating this bullshit of blaming everyone else for the crimes of the perpetrators is to me as a White man.
3.5% of the American population? I don’t think so. At least get your facts correct Mr. White Power.
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Again, I wouldn’t be too quick to judge this before hearing some more facts:
https://www.ajc.com/news/local/brunswick-attorney-released-the-video-arbery-shooting/JkpbvTuJt9wfl3tkcLTTvO/
Greg McMichael, who provided gun cover for his son as he fought and eventually shot a young black jogger, may have known the victim long before their encounter in a subdivision just south of Brunswick, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution has learned.
In his letter of recusal to Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr, Waycross Judicial Circuit District Attorney George Barnhill wrote that his son, a prosecutor in the Brunswick DA’s office, and McMichael, then an investigator in that same office, “both helped with the previous prosecution of (Ahmaud) Arbery.”
“This family are not strangers to the local criminal justice system,” Barnhill wrote in his letter to Carr. “From best we can tell, Ahmauds older brother has gone to prison in the past and is currently in the Glynn jail, without bond, awaiting new felony prosecution. It also appears a cousin has been prosecuted by DA Johnson's office.”
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I believe in the 2nd Amendment.
I believe in concealed carry.
I do not agree with so-called “assault weapon” bans.
However, what happened here was wrong. They should’ve just followed this guy and called the police and let them investigate. Unfortunately for them they are about to learn a painful lesson, which is going to impact not only them but their families.
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Couldn’t give less of a fuck about all 3 of them.They killed him and if no reason then they should be killed if they had a reason then fine.Fuck em all.
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I haven’t really followed the story but when I started seeing all sorts of white liberal virtue signaling it came to my attention. I was thinking that maybe just this one time he really would be a good boy but a quick search of Wikipedia showed it’s not the case. When he robbed the Walmart he was 22 so he was obviously was a thug punk.
Ahmaud Arbery was 25 years old. He had attended Brunswick High School, where he played football, and graduated in 2012. Previously in 2012, Arbery was arrested for bringing a handgun to a school gymnasium and then fleeing a police officer. He was convicted of carrying a weapon on campus and obstructing a law enforcement officer, and thus was sentenced to five years of probation.[13][14] In 2017, he was convicted of theft, for stealing a television from a Walmart store.
The fact that you bring up his criminal record shows a futile and ignorance of the killers. They killed him in cold blood
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Basically to the "people of colour":
White men control 94% of all the globe's nuclear weapons. Do you want to start this fight? Then it's on motherfuckers. Watch us pale-faces wipe you out with a few clicks of a button in the span of an afternoon.
I thought the Jews controlled everything?
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The fact that you bring up his criminal record shows a futile and ignorance of the killers. They killed him in cold blood
I’m not saying they didn’t but the facts need to come out.
And pretending as though his criminal record is meaningless shows a futile and ignorance of the victim.
Why is the most common picture of him wearing a tuxedo? Do you not think this has been done for effect?
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This feel like the Trayvon martin thing again. Waiting for everything to come out before I really judge. If he didn't try to grab the guys gun, I think it would be an open and shut case of murder but that's not what happened. I think it's going to be hard to get a 1st degree murder conviction on what i've seen.
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I believe it’s best to withhold judgment. The only way we know that he was out jogging is because his mother said so.
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/852464328/former-georgia-police-officer-and-his-son-arrested-in-the-death-of-ahmaud-arbery
Gregory McMichael and Travis McMichael are charged with murder and aggravated assault, according to a GBI press release. Gregory McMichael, 64, is a former investigator with the Brunswick district attorney's office and the father of Travis McMichael, 34.
Maybe that explains why it took so long to be arrested and charged. Has the record of the suspects been released?
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That would depend if they were legally allowed to have a gun on them. If they were legally allowed to carry, then yes, they were legally allowed to stop someone on the street, with that gun in their possession.
Can someone confirm if this is true?
Why would a random idiot would be allowed to stop you out of the blue? What am I missing?
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Was the alleged victim an Urban Youth?
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Can someone confirm if this is true?
Why would a random idiot would be allowed to stop you out of the blue? What am I missing?
On it’s face it’s probably accurate but effecting a so-called “citizens arrest” is a murky area under the best of circumstances. Georgia probably has case law on this that would have to be researched and probably is by the defendants’ attorneys.
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On it’s face it’s probably accurate but effecting a so-called “citizens arrest” is a murky area under the best of circumstances. Georgia probably has case law on this that would have to be researched and probably is by the defendants’ attorneys.
I see, it's kinda a gray area.
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I see, it's kinda a gray area.
https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/crime/georgias-citizen-arrest-laws-how-they-work-arbrey-shooting/93-31294ef7-70d4-4fa8-926e-6fde7a1bc075
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Legally allowed to have a gun and using that legal gun in this case are two totally different things.
On the surface, the two men had no fucking right to do this, and it seems like a case of taking the law into their own hands.
You should probably sit it out and wait.
Even if this is an example of a White man using force improperly against a Black man, it doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of these cases are bullshit.
People - OF ALL FUCKING RACES, INCLUDING OTHER "PEOPLE OF COLOUR", EVEN BLACK PEOPLE FFS - profile Black people. And rightfully so! Black males commit a majority of all forms of petty crime.
Why in the FUCK would I not profile the group of people most likely to harm me? Because some POS liberal tells me not to? How about that libtard can go fuck himself and move his ass into a Black neighbourhood!
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When I first heard it it sounded bad. The shooters do look like rednecks.
And I’m not saying they weren’t out of line. I just want to hear more.
I do too. What they did was wrong but if they're going to do it I'd rather this guy than a contributing member of society. Stealing a TV from Wal Mart and bringing a handgun to a school? Sounds like a piece of shit in the making. Everyone else abides by the rules; why not him?
People are going vigilante because of people like him. Next would have been home invasions. Ain't no one got da time for dat!!
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I thought the Jews controlled everything?
Well, we do, but that's besides the point.
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I thought the Jews controlled everything?
Nope.
Jews control the media and the banks [the INVESTMENT banks, not the commercial ones], but when the SHTF, you really see how tiny a group that is 0.2% of the population is, and how little power they actually have.
Maybe - just MAYBE - you would think they would stop poking the White bear...but no. ::)
But in practical terms, what does Jewish domination of media mean?
Try posting a neutral article, backed up with primary sources, merely proving, for example, that no written documents thus far discovered have ever proved Hitler hatched some plot to murder every Jewish man, woman, and child on the planet.
You can prove that up and down, but it would never be published anywhere, because Jews have essentially the equivalent of veto power in media.
But, from what I can tell, no one buys this bullshit anymore thanks to the internet - so, naturally, Jews have been doing a fantastic job consolidating the internet.
Example - click the link below and READ THE COMMENTS.
NO ONE'S BUYING IT ANYMORE, LOL.
That's the thing about Jewish influence - it waxes and wanes. And it is DEFINITELY in a massive waning period right now.
Another example - Jews managed to use their media influence to get their war in Iraq. But did they get their war in Iran? NOPE! Epic fail!!! And that was, IMO, completely caused by the Jewish media LIES that got us into war with Iraq. Those same LIES didn't work on Gentiles the second time out.
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Anyway, all of this is caused by Jewish high IQ. Regardless, I still resent it!i Do you think Ron would like it if a bunch of Gentiles moved to Israel, bought up all the media, and constantly talked about how Jews were "oppressing" Palestinians, and ignoring all the things Palestinians are doing to Jews?!?!
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Nope.
Jews control the media and the banks [the INVESTMENT banks, not the commercial ones], but when the SHTF, you really see how tiny a group that is 0.2% of the population is, and how little power they actually have.
Maybe - just MAYBE - you would think they would stop poking the White bear...but no. ::)
But in practical terms, what does Jewish domination of media mean?
Try posting a neutral article, backed up with primary sources, merely proving, for example, that no written documents thus far discovered have ever proved Hitler hatched some plot to murder every Jewish man, woman, and child on the planet.
You can prove that up and down, but it would never be published anywhere, because Jews have essentially the equivalent of veto power in media.
But, from what I can tell, no one buys this bullshit anymore thanks to the internet - so, naturally, Jews have been doing a fantastic job consolidating the internet.
Example - click the link below and READ THE COMMENTS.
NO ONE'S BUYING IT ANYMORE, LOL.
That's the thing about Jewish influence - it waxes and wanes. And it is DEFINITELY in a massive waning period right now.
Another example - Jews managed to use their media influence to get their war in Iraq. But did they get their war in Iran? NOPE! Epic fail!!! And that was, IMO, completely caused by the Jewish media LIES that got us into war with Iraq. Those same LIES didn't work on Gentiles the second time out.
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Anyway, all of this is caused by Jewish high IQ. Regardless, I still resent it!i Do you think Ron would like it if a bunch of Gentiles moved to Israel, bought up all the media, and constantly talked about how Jews were "oppressing" Palestinians, and ignoring all the things Palestinians are doing to Jews?!?!
I swear, you're going to get your ass beat one day
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Anyway, all of this is caused by Jewish high IQ. Regardless, I still resent it!i Do you think Ron would like it if a bunch of Gentiles moved to Israel, bought up all the media, and constantly talked about how Jews were "oppressing" Palestinians, and ignoring all the things Palestinians are doing.
I thought Ron was American. I didn’t realize he was Israeli.
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Even if this is an example of a White man using force improperly against a Black man, it doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of these cases are bullshit.
People - OF ALL FUCKING RACES, INCLUDING OTHER "PEOPLE OF COLOUR", EVEN BLACK PEOPLE FFS - profile Black people. And rightfully so! Black males commit a majority of all forms of petty crime.
Why in the FUCK would I not profile the group of people most likely to harm me? Because some POS liberal tells me not to? How about that libtard can go fuck himself and move his ass into a Black neighbourhood!
Profiling is one thing.
Playing cop is another.
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I swear, you're going to get your ass beat one day
I didn't realize that to embed YouTube videos here now, you just need to post the links! Interesting.
Your implication suggests that Black people are more prone to violence, and therefore more likely to do violence towards me.
I agree completely.
And yes, dealing with disproportionately high rates of Black violence impacting me personally is a risk I am taking by raising awareness of Black violence to my fellow White people.
But NO ONE does violence better than White men when you piss us off long enough. And we've had how many fucking decades now of dealing with the bullshit of imported races and the violence and decay they are bringing to the West, that it wouldn't shock me to see a White country snap soon enough.
Watch what happens to your precious affirmative action programs and other programs paid for by White people to coddle Blacks and other people of colour once we're fighting over resources, Vince.
The only reason why there is an appearance of White people losing right now is because we're not fighting back.
And as long as the process is gradual, we will continue to not fight back.
That's why I wish Blacks and other POC would just declare an all-out race war on Whites tomorrow. I would LOVE for that to happen.
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Profiling is one thing.
Playing cop is another.
I agree with that, but these laws vary from state-to-state, and apparently in Georgia where this happened, citizens DO have the right to make a citizen's arrest under certain circumstances.
The father of the man who shot him was also a former police officer.
And of course, all the evidence of the Black "victim" being a former convicted criminal are all coming out now.
Yeah, but shit-shocker here!
NEWSFLASH FROM OUR JEWISH MEDIA OVERLORDS:
"WHITE MEN DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM CRIME AGAINST SOMEONE WHO IS NOT RACE, THEREFORE, THEY MUST BE BE EVILRACISTNAZISWHOWANT2K ILL6BRAZILIANJEWS!!!11"
God, this shit is so boring.
Weird how our Jewish media friends never seem interested in reporting the fact that 93% of Blacks are MURDERED BY OTHER BLACKS?
^ BOOM!! And THAT my friends is why my perspective will ultimately prevail. Because I state FACTS. No amount of bullshitting is ever going to get masses of people to believe the lies and bullshit said about Blacks, with the ONLY exceptions being people who don't live around them.
Canada, for example - we had a 1% Black population until as recently as 2001. Maybe even 2006. OBVIOUSLY we sat around being brainwashed by Jewish-produced Hollywood movies that made Blacks look like poor innocent victims who can do no wrong, and are oppressed by the evil White man, and BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
Well...now Canada [or at least Ontario] has, well, a 2% Black population, and that's literally all it took for us to notice that the "racist" Americans were right. LOL.
As for the people disagreeing with me, you form one of two camps:
[1] You aren't White.
[2] You're White and live NOWHERE NEAR DIVERSHITTY. BECAUSE ANY SANE PERSON WHO LIVES NEAR POC KNOW EXACTLY WTF I'M TALKING ABOUT.
God, can we just drop with the lies and bullshit already?
THE REASON WHY BLACK PEOPLE GET ARRESTED MORE OFTEN IS BECAUSE THEY COMMIT MORE FUCKING CRIME. WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE? THAT THE BIGGEST OPEN CONSPIRACY IN HUMAN HISTORY IS LITERALLY HAPPENING RIGHT IN FRONT OF EVERYONE?
Holy fuck!
We live in a world where we can't utter a FUCKING PEEP about racial matters if we are White without losing our jobs, being socially ostracized, and otherwise basically driven out of polite society.
Yet somehow - despite this completely BATSHIT INSANE level of racial liberalism among White people - we are somehow covertly running some fucking system that racially oppressed Blacks, shoots them on the streets for no reason, and gets away with it?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHA.
Holy fuck, the level of DELUSION someone must be experiencing to feel this way!
I told one piece of shit leftist in town - David CryderMAN (((yeah, big surprise with that last name))) to get his wife to say that she thinks Indigenous people commit most of the violence in Thunder Bay.
I told him to do this, knowing full well this POS' wife was a secretary at a law firm.
He dodged the request, OBVIOUSLY, because he knows damn well that it's a complete myth and JOKE to say that White people somehow have this "system of oppression in place".
IF THIS SYSTEM WAS ACCURATE, THEN WHY THE FUCK CAN'T ANY SANE WHITE PERSON EVEN COMMENT ON DISPARITIES IN CRIME BY RACE WITHOUT HAVING THEIR LIVELIHOODS RUINED?
And Vince - do you dislike Trump?
Well, you haven't seen shit yet, buddy, because I'll tell you what - EVERYTHING you have learned and heard about White men doing evil is ALL TRUE. When we eventually get sick an environment that is hurting us, you better believe we're capable of doing everything evil that has been assigned to us.
LOL @ POC complaining about White people oppressing them. THEN STOP FUCKING MOVING TO WHITE COUNTRIES YOU COMPLAINING girls. NO ONE FORCES YOU TO COME HERE. STAY IN YOUR SHIT-HOLES, FAR AWAY FROM THE EVIL WHITE MEN WHO SOMEHOW "OPPRESS" YOU, AND DON'T SLAM THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT.
Actually, wait...I'd be fine with that too! :)
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looks to be a tale of 3 bottom feeders where no one here knows any back story of how it played out. just a nice boy in a tux, maybe out for a jog to get skittles.
crackers look like rednecks, black kid isnt the angel press wants you to believe that he is. they should pay for their fake news reporting.
its been done so much over the years -fake news- that it doesnt hit like it used to -except to sjw types and blm types. just noise at this point
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I didn't realize that to embed YouTube videos here now, you just need to post the links! Interesting.
Your implication suggests that Black people are more prone to violence, and therefore more likely to do violence towards me.
I agree completely.
And yes, dealing with disproportionately high rates of Black violence impacting me personally is a risk I am taking by raising awareness of Black violence to my fellow White people.
But NO ONE does violence better than White men when you piss us off long enough. And we've had how many fucking decades now of dealing with the bullshit of imported races and the violence and decay they are bringing to the West, that it wouldn't shock me to see a White country snap soon enough.
Watch what happens to your precious affirmative action programs and other programs paid for by White people to coddle Blacks and other people of colour once we're fighting over resources, Vince.
The only reason why there is an appearance of White people losing right now is because we're not fighting back.
And as long as the process is gradual, we will continue to not fight back.
That's why I wish Blacks and other POC would just declare an all-out race war on Whites tomorrow. I would LOVE for that to happen.
Agreed
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Agreed
I thought you were of Italian descent. That’s not really white.
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Legally allowed to have a gun and using that legal gun in this case are two totally different things.
On the surface, the two men had no fucking right to do this, and it seems like a case of taking the law into their own hands.
You should probably sit it out and wait.
This. Looks real bad on the surface.
But did anyone see the facebook live just the other day where the cops shot a black dude 11-12 times? The story said 4k people, including his family, watched him get shot....anybody see that story?
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Looks like the chasing camera car and the truck up ahead tried to box/corner the black guy. The camera car guy can be heard loading a weapon while chasing. The other two guys also had drawn weapons in a threatening manner. The fight or flight response of the black guy was probably activated due to fearing for his life after being chased and trapped by gun wielding men on both sides.
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What the fuck were these two morons thinking? Who cares if he was stealing from a construction site or whatever the APB was out for, why even bother shooting someone who’s running? It’s like these cop chase videos of them speeding on the interstate chasing a motorcycling. Just let them go before you hurt some innocent person. What happens if a kid is playing nearby and in the tussle a gun discharged and kills them? People are stupid. And these are people out here walking the streets with the rest of us.
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3.5% of the American population? I don’t think so. At least get your facts correct Mr. White Power.
6% ???
With all due respect, does that really change the reality that black men males aren't finished?
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I watched frame by frame.
The armed white guy is standing in the left lane to confront/block movement of the black guy. The black guy tries to run around the truck (to avoid him?). When we see them again the armed man has moved toward the black man and is standing in the right lane.
This is a threatening maneuver by approaching the running black man and closing the distance while armed, while the black mans vision of the armed mans movement was obscured by the truck.
The black man suddenly sees an armed threat in very close proximity, and autonomous flight or fight circuits in the brain are activated causing the black man to defend himself against the imminent lethal threat of a firearm at close range in the hands of people who chased and cornered him.
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I think this article sums it up pretty well.
https://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20200507/latest-on-killing-of-ahmaud-arbery-man-who-filmed-video-joined-in-hot-pursuit-internal-memo-says
So, what we know is that:
- He was a thug.
- Three armed idiots chased him.
- There was a confrontation where he got shot and killed.
We don't know:
- If he actually committed burglary in the neighborhood where he was killed.
- If the previous line is relevant.
- How exactly the confrotation escalated.
Nevertheless, I'm sure Getbiggers who've become overnight experts in fields like Epidemiology, Mathematical Models and Enviromental Sciences can tackle Law and reach a veredict with no problem whatsoever.
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I think this article sums it up pretty well.
https://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20200507/latest-on-killing-of-ahmaud-arbery-man-who-filmed-video-joined-in-hot-pursuit-internal-memo-says
So, what we know is that:
- He was a thug.
- Three armed idiots chased him.
- There was a confrontation where he got shot and killed.
We don't know:
- If he actually committed burglary in the neighborhood where he was killed.
- If the previous line is relevant.
- How exactly the confrotation escalated.
Nevertheless, I'm sure Getbiggers who've become overnight experts in fields like Epidemiology, Mathematical Models and Enviromental Sciences can tackle Law and reach a veredict with no problem whatsoever.
We also know that one of the two arrested (the father) was, until last year, an investigator for the Glynn County District Attorney.
We don't know yet about any criminal record or arrests he or his son might have.
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I agree with that, but these laws vary from state-to-state, and apparently in Georgia where this happened, citizens DO have the right to make a citizen's arrest under certain circumstances.
The father of the man who shot him was also a former police officer.
And of course, all the evidence of the Black "victim" being a former convicted criminal are all coming out now.
Yeah, but shit-shocker here!
NEWSFLASH FROM OUR JEWISH MEDIA OVERLORDS:
"WHITE MEN DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM CRIME AGAINST SOMEONE WHO IS NOT RACE, THEREFORE, THEY MUST BE BE EVILRACISTNAZISWHOWANT2K ILL6BRAZILIANJEWS!!!11"
God, this shit is so boring.
Weird how our Jewish media friends never seem interested in reporting the fact that 93% of Blacks are MURDERED BY OTHER BLACKS?
^ BOOM!! And THAT my friends is why my perspective will ultimately prevail. Because I state FACTS. No amount of bullshitting is ever going to get masses of people to believe the lies and bullshit said about Blacks, with the ONLY exceptions being people who don't live around them.
Canada, for example - we had a 1% Black population until as recently as 2001. Maybe even 2006. OBVIOUSLY we sat around being brainwashed by Jewish-produced Hollywood movies that made Blacks look like poor innocent victims who can do no wrong, and are oppressed by the evil White man, and BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
Well...now Canada [or at least Ontario] has, well, a 2% Black population, and that's literally all it took for us to notice that the "racist" Americans were right. LOL.
As for the people disagreeing with me, you form one of two camps:
[1] You aren't White.
[2] You're White and live NOWHERE NEAR DIVERSHITTY. BECAUSE ANY SANE PERSON WHO LIVES NEAR POC KNOW EXACTLY WTF I'M TALKING ABOUT.
God, can we just drop with the lies and bullshit already?
THE REASON WHY BLACK PEOPLE GET ARRESTED MORE OFTEN IS BECAUSE THEY COMMIT MORE FUCKING CRIME. WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE? THAT THE BIGGEST OPEN CONSPIRACY IN HUMAN HISTORY IS LITERALLY HAPPENING RIGHT IN FRONT OF EVERYONE?
Holy fuck!
We live in a world where we can't utter a FUCKING PEEP about racial matters if we are White without losing our jobs, being socially ostracized, and otherwise basically driven out of polite society.
Yet somehow - despite this completely BATSHIT INSANE level of racial liberalism among White people - we are somehow covertly running some fucking system that racially oppressed Blacks, shoots them on the streets for no reason, and gets away with it?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHA.
Holy fuck, the level of DELUSION someone must be experiencing to feel this way!
I told one piece of shit leftist in town - David CryderMAN (((yeah, big surprise with that last name))) to get his wife to say that she thinks Indigenous people commit most of the violence in Thunder Bay.
I told him to do this, knowing full well this POS' wife was a secretary at a law firm.
He dodged the request, OBVIOUSLY, because he knows damn well that it's a complete myth and JOKE to say that White people somehow have this "system of oppression in place".
IF THIS SYSTEM WAS ACCURATE, THEN WHY THE FUCK CAN'T ANY SANE WHITE PERSON EVEN COMMENT ON DISPARITIES IN CRIME BY RACE WITHOUT HAVING THEIR LIVELIHOODS RUINED?
And Vince - do you dislike Trump?
Well, you haven't seen shit yet, buddy, because I'll tell you what - EVERYTHING you have learned and heard about White men doing evil is ALL TRUE. When we eventually get sick an environment that is hurting us, you better believe we're capable of doing everything evil that has been assigned to us.
LOL @ POC complaining about White people oppressing them. THEN STOP FUCKING MOVING TO WHITE COUNTRIES YOU COMPLAINING girls. NO ONE FORCES YOU TO COME HERE. STAY IN YOUR SHIT-HOLES, FAR AWAY FROM THE EVIL WHITE MEN WHO SOMEHOW "OPPRESS" YOU, AND DON'T SLAM THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT.
Actually, wait...I'd be fine with that too! :)
My skin color is not a crime you fucking idiot and I'm getting really sick and tired of your anti-Semitic bullshit.
There are a lot of people who have criminal records. Regardless of his past, that doesnt give any right to chase him down and shoot him to death for no reason. He was jogging down the fucking street and he was unarmed. Considering the fact that it took months for charges is blatantly racist.
When are you going to grow up, Matt. It's people like you spouting this white supremacist shit that makes people act this way
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And so, just because he is jogging, they have a right to stop you with a gun? If it was reversed, would that be ok.
Bottom line, this was NOT OK. If they were so worried, they could of called the police. No, they chose to get into a fight with someone, and went it went bad, they killed him. Maybe not intentional, but they did. And they will lose in a trial for that.
If you are jogging, and two men come at you with a gun, with another one behind you in a car, anyone would be worried.
He should have never been gunned down BUT there certainly is more to the story Ron.
1) Was NOT in jogging attire.
2) Was jogging in a neighborhood that was not his and NOT even his town. It was a town OVER, HMMMM
30 Had been spotted on surveillance cameras in the back yard of houses in this neighborhood.
4) Had been arrested and convicted of burglary and stealing a TV
50 Multiple parole violations
6) caught with drugs several times
7) you really think a retied detective has nothing better to do that to hunt down black people in his neighborhood and ruin his own life?. Give me a break.
that guy didn't deserve to die but he was up to no good and this detective knew that. SHDH atthe people who believe this narrative from the get go.
Why would you ever run at someone with a gun? A normal person wouldn't do that.
If you believe the MSM narritive on this I can't help you but it's not as cut and dry as the 28 second clip everyone has seen.
For the record I don';t think anyone should be gunned down like this. But he bares some responsibility in this as well.
Another chance for the democrats to split this country in half. But this time these guys will be found guilty.
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My skin color is not a crime you fucking idiot and I'm getting really sick and tired of your anti-Semitic bullshit.
There are a lot of people who have criminal records. Regardless of his past, that doesnt give any right to chase him down and shoot him to death for no reason. He was jogging down the fucking street and he was unarmed. Considering the fact that it took months for charges is blatantly racist.
When are you going to grow up, Matt. It's people like you spouting this white supremacist shit that makes people act this way
Yes and they almost always continue to engage in criminal behavior.
And black males wonder why white owned companies don't want anything to do with them. If it wasn't for affirmative action they'd realy be screwed ( not that they aren't all ready)
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He should have never been gunned down BUT there certainly is more to the story Ron.
1) Was NOT in jogging attire.
2) Was jogging in a neighborhood that was not his and NOT even his town. It was a town OVER, HMMMM
30 Had been spotted on surveillance cameras in the back yard of houses in this neighborhood.
4) Had been arrested and convicted of burglary and stealing a TV
50 Multiple parole violations
6) caught with drugs several times
7) you really think a retied detective has nothing better to do that to hunt down black people in his neighborhood and ruin his own life?. Give me a break.
that guy didn't deserve to die but he was up to no good and this detective knew that. SHDH atthe people who believe this narrative from the get go.
Why would you ever run at someone with a gun? A normal person wouldn't do that.
If you believe the MSM narritive on this I can't help you but it's not as cut and dry as the 28 second clip everyone has seen.
For the record I don';t think anyone should be gunned down like this. But he bares some responsibility in this as well.
Another chance for the democrats to split this country in half. But this time these guys will be found guilty.
Most balanced take in this thread I've read so far.
As for Ron, he's a cool guy who Ive met in person but he's also blue pilled and so extreme far left liberal that he makes Rosie Odonell seem conservative ;D
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Well cool to see Getbig hasn’t changed.
What up CHAOS! Where you training at these days?
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Can someone confirm if this is true?
Why would a random idiot would be allowed to stop you out of the blue? What am I missing?
They wouldn't be allowed to do so in this case. The citizens arrest power is only good if you see the crime being committed, not if you think you saw a guy 4 days ago or 2 months ago on a video.
I think manslaughter is the correct charge in this case based on the available info. Could change with new info. I don't think you could prove in court they set out with the intent to kill. There appears to be a struggle over the shotgun and suspect fired. Defense attorney will paint a picture my client only intended to talk to the fellow, they only had the guns for their protection because blah blah blah. My client was in a life and death struggle to retain the shotgun for fear that thug would shoot him with it and he had not choice.
Prosecutor will say something like "Are you F'ng kiddin' me?!" Then paint the picture the two suspects acted in a manner that set the encounter up for failure and they while they may not have intended to end Ahmauds life that day they were so reckless and aggressive that they created the circumstances that lead to his death.
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no petty crime deserves being gunned down. three people, zero brains, 3 less on the streets moving forward. the media will love to split the country even ore by constant reportinging and pumping this up. if other way around (which happens daily, maybe not on film though) there would be the usual silence. vince, dont be fat and dumb and so pissed off about it, be pissed how blacks kill each other daily in record numbers.
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couple things the media forgot to mention is in this video.
I don't think anyone deserves to die for trying to make a living...
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couple things the media forgot to mention is in this video.
I don't think anyone deserves to die for trying to make a living...
Looks like the media is front running the story for when the facts disclose that the guy was a career criminal.
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This feel like the Trayvon martin thing again. Waiting for everything to come out before I really judge. If he didn't try to grab the guys gun, I think it would be an open and shut case of murder but that's not what happened. I think it's going to be hard to get a 1st degree murder conviction on what i've seen.
exactly if he had waited a couple of minutes for the cops to show up... but instead acted like a hot head and tried to grab the gun, what does he expect is going to happen then?
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Looks like the media is front running the story for when the facts disclose that the guy was a career criminal.
it is. There is a video of someone dressed and looking just like him burglarizing a house up the street.
I think there is a bit more to the story and why in God's name would he try to take the shotgun from the driver? That's just plain crazy. No one will give up his weapon without a fight.
So right there he is not murdered in cold blood! The media is outta control, period!
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exactly if he had waited a couple of minutes for the cops to show up... but instead acted like a hot head and tried to grab the gun, what does he expect is going to happen then?
same thought.
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it is. There is a video of someone dressed and looking just like him burglarizing a house up the street.
I think there is a bit more to the story and why in God's name would he try to take the shotgun from the driver? That's just plain crazy. No one will give up his weapon without a fight.
So right there he is not murdered in cold blood! The media is outta control, period!
What the media omits is often very telling. They mentioned that he graduated high school but what’s he been doing since then? I’ve heard no mention about his job.
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anyone who believes what media, politicians, govt, -anyone for that matter- tells them is just brain-dead. everything today is made up, smoke-mirrors- lies.
being in isolated vergennes vermont i dont have to deal with a lot of this stuff, thank god.
According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 2.5 square miles.
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couple things the media forgot to mention is in this video.
I don't think anyone deserves to die for trying to make a living...
I like it how he uses a media outlet to refute another media outlet, which leads some Getbiggers to conclude that we should never trust the media.
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I often go out for my daily jog in khaki below-knee shorts.
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That would depend if they were legally allowed to have a gun on them. If they were legally allowed to carry, then yes, they were legally allowed to stop someone on the street, with that gun in their possession.
legally allowed to carry a gun dont mean legally allowed to stop someone
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They edit that video of killin very suspicious
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U cant hunt a guy, neegul with a gun unless the dude killed someone or kidnapping. Period
If a burglar is inside ur house yes u can shoot him
If these rednecks want justice then man up lern how to fight take proteen powder eat beans stop drinkin mt dews, n u wont need pussy ass guns.
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I often go out for my daily jog in khaki below-knee shorts.
He was training for an obstacle course race by running with a television on his back that he stole from Walmart💪
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What the fuck were these two morons thinking? Who cares if he was stealing from a construction site or whatever the APB was out for, why even bother shooting someone who’s running? It’s like these cop chase videos of them speeding on the interstate chasing a motorcycling. Just let them go before you hurt some innocent person. What happens if a kid is playing nearby and in the tussle a gun discharged and kills them? People are stupid. And these are people out here walking the streets with the rest of us.
They were trying to bat above there league by using the gun . However its admirable they went after a suspect however , the punk ass criminal wouldve gotten away from those two redneck falcons
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Well cool to see Getbig hasn’t changed.
What up CHAOS! Where you training at these days?
In my backyard, I have the basic barbell/cage/bench and 700# of weight. Gym was slated to open the 15th, but I think the communist running CA might push us out even farther.
How are you doing? You still in PR?
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And so, just because he is jogging, they have a right to stop you with a gun? If it was reversed, would that be ok.
Bottom line, this was NOT OK. If they were so worried, they could of called the police. No, they chose to get into a fight with someone, and went it went bad, they killed him. Maybe not intentional, but they did. And they will lose in a trial for that.
If you are jogging, and two men come at you with a gun, with another one behind you in a car, anyone would be worried.
Reversed?? It happens everyday! Blacks robbing and murdering whites as easy targets!
But it’s racist to report that or even bring it up🙄
Bench
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3.5% of the American population? I don’t think so. At least get your facts correct Mr. White Power.
What difference does it make whether it’s 3.5% or 7% or even 10% they’re the cause of so many problems in every country
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Hebrews and Hebresses combined are an estimated 13.4% of the population in 2018 according to the US Census Bureau, so Hebrews alone are roughly 6.5%. That's all ages including kids and old Heebs, so Matt C's estimate of 3.5% for young male Heebs is probably not far off.
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Running from a crime scene is the new Jogging.
As an aside, how does the mother have two last names yet neither is that of the last name of the son🤔
wanda cooper jones
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Looks like the media is front running the story for when the facts disclose that the guy was a career criminal.
They also havent ran the part where the murderers were in the KKK and participated in a recent March. But it will be out soon
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They also havent ran the part where the murderers were in the KKK and participated in a recent March. But it will be out soon
Link?
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Link?
different from blm protests how now?
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According to police only one break-in, on 1/1/20, reported in the neighborhood before the shooting. And the break-in involved the theft of a gun from an unlocked truck parked outside of the McMichaels’ home. So much for responsible gun ownership.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/08/police-debunk-accused-killers-claims-ahmaud-arbery-was-burglary-suspect/
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They also havent ran the part where the murderers were in the KKK and participated in a recent March. But it will be out soon
If this is true they should get the death penalty for stupidity.
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If this is true they should get the death penalty for stupidity.
There won’t be a link..it’s just more lies and trial by media.
Just rest in the fact that no one will ever know what actually happened because of the media and black groups fanning the imaginary flames of racism once again.
I can’t understand why anyone would wake up every morning and yearn to be a victim! No one will ever respect a victim...just use them...keep your owners happy I guess...this shit keeps you a slave and you don’t even realize it.
Too many black Americans have done awesome things...but because the bullshit of a few it will never matter.
Bench
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I like it how he uses a media outlet to refute another media outlet, which leads some Getbiggers to conclude that we should never trust the media.
Heh, yes. Stolen concept fallacy at its finest.
Regardless, as a gun owner and white guy, I'd like to see those two shitkickers flogged in the county square. Every round their ilk fire at a black kid is an ammo dump for liberals to condemn whitey and demonize firearms.
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Been following the story on the news. This I did not know. Perhaps the killers did the world a favor and eliminated someone who was a burden on society and primed to become an even bigger one? I hate thiefs.
Would you intentionally kill a thief if he or she posed no direct threat to you? Vigilantism is dangerous and against the law.
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Would you intentionally kill a thief if he or she posed no direct threat to you? Vigilantism is dangerous and against the law.
What about all the Getbig threads you’ve killed in vigilante fashion while showing no remorse for the victims?👎
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What about all the Getbig threads you’ve killed in vigilante fashion while showing no remorse for the victims?👎
Who knew I had that much power.
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What about all the Getbig threads you’ve killed in vigilante fashion while showing no remorse for the victims?👎
Now that's funny right there.
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you victim whining again?
I never get to be the victim. I’m not even old enough to be in a high risk Covid group. 😢
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This video EXPLAINS everything about this case and proves Not All Is What It Seems:
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Couldn’t give less of a fuck about all 3 of them.They killed him and if no reason then they should be killed if they had a reason then fine.Fuck em all.
Works for me.
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/authorities-investigate-video-showing-ahmaud-arbery-prior-shooting/story?id=70600564
The video, obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, shows someone who appears to be Arbery on a home surveillance camera down the block from a construction site just minutes before the 25-year-old was shot on the afternoon of Feb. 23. The man enters the home under construction through the garage, walks around the back of the home and then leaves and runs down the street.
A neighbor can be seen across the street from the construction site, possibly the person who was heard on previously released 911 audio saying, "He's running right now. There he goes right now." Two police cars can be seen in the video minutes later traveling down the street in the direction Arbery ran and was later shot.
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/authorities-investigate-video-showing-ahmaud-arbery-prior-shooting/story?id=70600564
The video, obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, shows someone who appears to be Arbery on a home surveillance camera down the block from a construction site just minutes before the 25-year-old was shot on the afternoon of Feb. 23. The man enters the home under construction through the garage, walks around the back of the home and then leaves and runs down the street.
A neighbor can be seen across the street from the construction site, possibly the person who was heard on previously released 911 audio saying, "He's running right now. There he goes right now." Two police cars can be seen in the video minutes later traveling down the street in the direction Arbery ran and was later shot.
What are you really stealing from a construction site? Residential construction, they’re taking their tools home with them everyday. Maybe he was just checking it out. I went into a house that was being built on my street some months back just to look around. I realize it’s trespassing but I had no I’ll intent. Regardless of whether or not the dude was a shitbag thief or not, he doesn’t deserve to be gunned down like he was. Those dudes made a massive error in judgement and will be punished accordingly.
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What are you really stealing from a construction site? Residential construction, they’re taking their tools home with them everyday. Maybe he was just checking it out. I went into a house that was being built on my street some months back just to look around. I realize it’s trespassing but I had no I’ll intent. Regardless of whether or not the dude was a shitbag thief or not, he doesn’t deserve to be gunned down like he was. Those dudes made a massive error in judgement and will be punished accordingly.
I’m not saying he deserved to be shot. I happen to agree with Agnostic’s take on the situation. Manslaughter seems like the most likely charge.
However, don’t insult our intelligence by telling us this fucking guy was jogging. The guy has a criminal record and was on probation. Why the fuck would you trespass under those circumstances?
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This video EXPLAINS everything about this case and proves Not All Is What It Seems:
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I’m not saying he deserved to be shot. I happen to agree with Agnostic’s take on the situation. Manslaughter seems like the most likely charge.
However, don’t insult our intelligence by telling us this fucking guy was jogging. The guy has a criminal record and was on probation. Why the fuck would you trespass under those circumstances?
Murder is the appropriate charge...manslaughter would give an indication of mutual combat. Three armed men with shotguns against an unarmed man isnt. The biggest thing that the jury is going to see is the father yelling out to his son Travis to stop. That's an admission that they fucked up.
Plea deal likely
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A murder charge would be tossed I think. They would have to prove intent. Manslaughter would probably stick and might end up in a conviction.
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The constitution and bill of rights is being ripped up right in front of us. Hell, people are being arrested for PROTESTING.. and this is what the media wants us to focus on. Not to mention the revelation that the FBI was trying to set up and destroy an American Citizen
They must think we are a bunch of retards. We are smarter than that Right?
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The constitution and bill of rights is being ripped up right in front of us. Hell, people are being arrested for PROTESTING.. and this is what the media wants us to focus on. Not to mention the revelation that the FBI was trying to set up and destroy an American Citizen
They must think we are a bunch of retards. We are smarter than that Right?
The media is our enemy, it controls the sheeple and the weak minded.
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premeditated, evil, gangster, typical, nice boy, dindu, skittles, coward, typical again, thousands on the daily ignored, slap on wrist for tar-babies
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When the media is getting the nation to solely focus on A. Arbery(and on their terms and narrative) as opposed to thousands of others cases, that is literally mind control. They shift the nation's collective focus on whatever they deem important and however they tell you it went down. And if you see it any differently than their official narrative, you are to be ostracized.
The media could easily do the same year after year with Asians being beaten, robbed, and killed in "inner cities"(see video directly above) and everyone's mind would be on who, in this different focus, is committing the hate. Then, Asians would be in hog heaven because the media would again be dividing the population, but this time it's in their favor. Very few in the groups that the media focuses on lionizing with victim status realize that they're pawns and that the media could "switch sides" and be against them at the drop of a hat.
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This is horrible. This guy went hunting for elderly white people to kill in a graveyard.
I would have to post a "hunting whites" headline in large fonts about a billion times all over the internet to have the impact that the media has done with the Georgia story.
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Blaming it on Trump... ;D ;D
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Blaming it on Trump... ;D ;D
It’s unbelievable how easily people mark out for bullshit narratives.
Apparently the guy lived like 10 miles away from this house which means he would’ve been doing an out and back 20 miler. Only somebody in the late stages of marathon training or a professional distance runner would do something like that. And he was wearing cargo shorts no less.
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Video of Arbery in construction site.
He was definitely a thug looking for things to steal. LOL at jogger.
Still, it looks bad for the father & son.
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The first shot which hit the palm of his hand wasnt fired until he grabbed the gun. Once he laid his hand on the gun he was now armed.
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Jesus fucking Christ this shit is simple.
-Buckwheat was out looking for shit to steal
-Roscoe and cousin Goober saw him
-Sadly for Buckwheat, Roscoe and cousin Goober are even dumber than he was
-Roscoe and cousin Goober murdered Buckwheat
-Buckwheat gets the dirt nap
-Roscoe and cousin Goober need to spend the next 25 years in prison
-Case closed
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The first shot which hit the palm of his hand wasnt fired until he grabbed the gun. Once he laid his hand on the gun he was now armed.
Dayum. A bit reminiscent of Ferguson, MI, when a perp tried to take a cop's gun. Two adversaries trying to control one gun won't end well.
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And so, just because he is jogging, they have a right to stop you with a gun? If it was reversed, would that be ok.
Bottom line, this was NOT OK. If they were so worried, they could of called the police. No, they chose to get into a fight with someone, and went it went bad, they killed him. Maybe not intentional, but they did. And they will lose in a trial for that.
If you are jogging, and two men come at you with a gun, with another one behind you in a car, anyone would be worried.
Exactly. Why does that justify being shot for jogging while being Black. There is definitely to much reverse racism in our society where Blacks are given a pass and Whites are demonized but it doesn't help the cause when you swing so far the other way. He didn't deserved to be shot dead. That should just acknowledge and those two punished.
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That would depend if they were legally allowed to have a gun on them. If they were legally allowed to carry, then yes, they were legally allowed to stop someone on the street, with that gun in their possession.
Stop him why? For jogging? You don't have a legal right to stop someone that is not committing a crime.
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A murder charge would be tossed I think. They would have to prove intent. Manslaughter would probably stick and might end up in a conviction.
Nope.
A citizen's arrest is legal in Georgia. As per usual, the thieving Negro attempted to take the weapon from the White people, who had the right to carry it, and had the right to arrest him for his scoping out of the residence in question, which was 21 miles away from the home he lived in.
But he was "just out for a jog", right? ::)
I'm in stitches watching these pro-Negro narratives in the Jewish-owned media collapse like this. ;D
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LOL!!!!
Blacks commit 56% of all gun violence in the USA, Ron! If the situation was reversed, LMAO!!!!
Young Black males are 3.5% of the American population, yet commit more gun violence than the entire 96.5% of the entire population of ANY race.
Imagine me telling you that some poor innocent Palestinian getting killed by a Jew in Israel, but you thinking "WTF, but Palestinians commit 99% of the bombings in Israel - why shouldn't Jews be on edge about that, and quick to defend themselves?"
Now that I've cited specific data on Black gun crime rates, I'd love to see you address any of those.
I also like that Jews get blamed for all the bullshit Palestinians are doing to them in Israel. Maybe by that, you will understand how frustrating this bullshit of blaming everyone else for the crimes of the perpetrators is to me as a White man.
Yes, Black disproportionally commit the vast amount of violent crimes. What does that have to do with this case?
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Stop him why? For jogging? You don't have a legal right to stop someone that is not committing a crime.
He had just trespassed on a property, as shown in the video posted above. Or was this Negro on a 21 mile jog? LOL.
Since he broke the law, a citizen's arrest was legal.
Didn't you get into a fight with a homeless man who attempted to steal your quarter pounder? If he was Black, would that have made it illegal?
Apparently, laws don't change depending on the race of the people involved.
This will be a full acquittal. Or has it been already? From the evidence so far, you can call this case tragic. But nothing illegal happened here.
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He had just trespassed on a property, as shown in the video posted above. Or was this Negro on a 21 mile jog? LOL.
Since he broke the law, a citizen's arrest was legal.
Didn't you get into a fight with a homeless man who attempted to steal your quarter pounder? If he was Black, would that have made it illegal?
Apparently, laws don't change depending on the race of the people involved.
This will be a full acquittal. Or has it been already? From the evidence so far, you can call this case tragic. But nothing illegal happened here.
So you think he deserved to be shot to death?
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Yes, Black disproportionally commit the vast amount of violent crimes. What does that have to do with this case?
That's why people profile.
And while I am concerned for my safety with Black people in general, I can afford to live nowhere near them, and I choose to do that.
It's beyond clear to me that White people don't have the right to defend themselves against violent Black criminals, and I just want to live nowhere near this race of people.
I know plenty of Black people are fine people - but here's the thing:
I have the right to defend myself. But apparently according to our Jewish media overlords, I don't have this right as a White man.
So I want Black people, and all other "protected groups" to just stay the fuck away from me!
In Germany, a German father stopped his daughter from being raped by a Muslim at a public pool, and HE got arrested.
Bottom line...anyone not White just needs to keep the fuck away from me. I'm sure that some of them are good people - but it's clear to me that this system won't allow me to exercise my right of self-defense if the person attacking me is not White.
So I want to simply part ways, citing "irreconcilable differences".
I realize in this case, the issue wasn't self-defense, but once again, White people are expected to let Negros rob us blind or scope out our properties, and do nothing about it.
I'm sorry, but fuck that.
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So you think he deserved to be shot to death?
He shouldn't have made a move for the gun. The dumb N knew he was going back to jail this time, and probably got scared. This is all explained in the Stefan Molyneux video. Typical low IQ N. He should have actually been in jail, but he got his typical N "Get out of Jail" free card for being an N.
Don't grab the gun of a retired police officer who is legally making a citizen's arrest after you just trespassed.
But hey - play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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He shouldn't have made a move for the gun. The dumb N knew he was going back to jail this time, and probably got scared. This is all explained in the Stefan Molyneux video. Typical low IQ N. He should have actually been in jail, but he got his typical N "Get out of Jail" free card for being an N.
Don't grab the gun of a retired police officer who is legally making a citizen's arrest after you just trespassed.
But hey - play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
You know what was he was thinking how?
And someone you don't know pulls a shotgun on you and you're surprised that he tries to defend himself.
And you still avoid my simple direct question: Do you think he deserved to be shot dead for this incident?
Matt, I don't have a problem with you and think you are pretty intelligent and bring up good arguments on a variety of subjects but you are an abject racist and will always find a way to hold Blacks, and Jews for that matter, for all that is wrong with the world.
You have to realize Matt that being so extreme with regard to race that you have no credibility and no one takes your arguments on race seriously.
You still have never answered my repeated question, other than say it was a good question, what do you want to do with the Jews? None of this, they have to treat Whites better, they can't control everything, they have to give up Israel -- not what you want Jews to do but what you want to do with the Jews.
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My skin color is not a crime you fucking idiot and I'm getting really sick and tired of your anti-Semitic bullshit.
There are a lot of people who have criminal records. Regardless of his past, that doesnt give any right to chase him down and shoot him to death for no reason. He was jogging down the fucking street and he was unarmed. Considering the fact that it took months for charges is blatantly racist.
When are you going to grow up, Matt. It's people like you spouting this white supremacist shit that makes people act this way
Really? Come on Vince, aside from traffic violation, not “a lot” of people have criminal records. I don’t know what kind of people you know
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He shouldn't have made a move for the gun. The dumb N knew he was going back to jail this time, and probably got scared. This is all explained in the Stefan Molyneux video. Typical low IQ N. He should have actually been in jail, but he got his typical N "Get out of Jail" free card for being an N.
Don't grab the gun of a retired police officer who is legally making a citizen's arrest after you just trespassed.
But hey - play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Matt, as usual, your true colors are showing. He defended himself because 3 unknown men chased him in a truck and charged at him with shotguns. He has every right to defend himself as any normal human being would.
They are charged with murder and will be found guilty. Unless he represented a clear and present danger, you cannot gun down someone for trespassing on a construction site.
Matt, are you so bend over backwards in white supremacy in which you would actually defend shit like this???🙄
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Nope.
A citizen's arrest is legal in Georgia. As per usual, the thieving Negro attempted to take the weapon from the White people, who had the right to carry it, and had the right to arrest him for his scoping out of the residence in question, which was 21 miles away from the home he lived in.
But he was "just out for a jog", right? ::)
I'm in stitches watching these pro-Negro narratives in the Jewish-owned media collapse like this. ;D
You are wrong in your assessment. Hope this helps
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He had just trespassed on a property, as shown in the video posted above. Or was this Negro on a 21 mile jog? LOL.
Since he broke the law, a citizen's arrest was legal.
Didn't you get into a fight with a homeless man who attempted to steal your quarter pounder? If he was Black, would that have made it illegal?
Apparently, laws don't change depending on the race of the people involved.
This will be a full acquittal. Or has it been already? From the evidence so far, you can call this case tragic. But nothing illegal happened here.
Again you are wrong. Here's why. The citizens arrest authority falls under specific conditions. You can look them up but "trespassing" is far from one of them.
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He shouldn't have made a move for the gun. The dumb N knew he was going back to jail this time, and probably got scared. This is all explained in the Stefan Molyneux video. Typical low IQ N. He should have actually been in jail, but he got his typical N "Get out of Jail" free card for being an N.
Don't grab the gun of a retired police officer who is legally making a citizen's arrest after you just trespassed.
But hey - play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
He shouldn't have made a move for the gun?
How about father and son shouldn't have played wild west and grabbed shotguns and jumped in their truck to chase down someone who at worse poked his head into a house under construction (which they probably didn't know) at the time and at worst committed a burglary of vehicle days or weeks earlier when dumbshits left a handgun in their unlocked vehicle.
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Matt, as usual, your true colors are showing. He defended himself because 3 unknown men chased him in a truck and charged at him with shotguns. He has every right to defend himself as any normal human being would.
They are charged with murder and will be found guilty. Unless he represented a clear and present danger, you cannot gun down someone for trespassing on a construction site.
Matt, are you so bend over backwards in white supremacy in which you would actually defend shit like this???🙄
X2.
Typical Matt, goes on and on but avoids answering a very simple and direct question.
Matt, do you think he deserved to be shot dead for this incident?
Matt, as I've said. I inexplicable like you and I think you contribute a lot this board but
Vince summed you up perfectly.
"Matt, are you so bend over backwards in white supremacy"
When it comes to racial issues you have no credibility with anyone because you are so extreme. It's always a knee jerk reaction: Whites = Good, Blacks = Bad. Draw your conclusions first then make up any argument you can to defend it.
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He shouldn't have made a move for the gun. The dumb N knew he was going back to jail this time, and probably got scared. This is all explained in the Stefan Molyneux video. Typical low IQ N. He should have actually been in jail, but he got his typical N "Get out of Jail" free card for being an N.
Don't grab the gun of a retired police officer who is legally making a citizen's arrest after you just trespassed.
But hey - play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
So when you violated your ban from Lakehead U multiple times and entered campus what did you deserve? A bunch of citizens approaching you with shotguns? What lawful purpose did you have to be on property after your ban? You also had the stupidity of using your kids as shields while doing this.
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Jesus fucking Christ this shit is simple.
-Buckwheat was out looking for shit to steal
-Roscoe and cousin Goober saw him
-Sadly for Buckwheat, Roscoe and cousin Goober are even dumber than he was
-Roscoe and cousin Goober murdered Buckwheat
-Buckwheat gets the dirt nap
-Roscoe and cousin Goober need to spend the next 25 years in prison
-Case closed
Good summary.
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He didn't deserve to die
He wasn't a jogger
This won't end in a 1st degree murder conviction.
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I'm just curious, Matt. For someone who continues to trespass on Lakewood University, you have some nerve to talk about "thief Negros". Maybe you should get hit with a shotgun blast😀
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i dont recall this violent race-killing being all over the news. hmm wonder why
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this kneegro all over the news as well the violent killer?
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Autopsy Report: Died From 3 point blank shotgun blast, cause of death: homicide.
NO DRUGS OR ALCOHOL IN HIS SYSTEM!!!!!
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this kneegro all over the news as well the violent killer?
Love his intelligent stare
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he looks like the most unfortunately aged banana in that mugshot
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Getting into a gunbattle with the police rarely ends well.
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As an experienced distance runner, I noticed a few things that might’ve gotten by people who are not familiar with this activity. First, as others have pointed out, he was wearing cargo shorts, not a good idea for a long run as they get heavy as a result of sweat accumulation and can also cause chaffing.
Second, he doesn’t appear to be wearing socks. On an extended run, that’s a sure ticket to blisters and irritation.
Third, his shirt doesn’t seem to be wet with sweat. After a 10 mile run in the afternoon, the typical runner would be drenched.
Frankly, I’m dubious of the claim that this individual was jogging.🤔
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Do Hebrews jog? I have never seen one.
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What did Ahmaud Arbery steal or intend to steal from the construction sight, a nail? He obviously wasn't carrying a table saw or any other construction tool of any value when he jogging down the street where he was shot and killed by these two vigilantes.
I've toured homes under construction without express permission thousands of times ever since I was a kid because I've always been interested in residential architecture and construction. Not only that, being into real estate, I've walked around a lot of vacant houses with for sale signs, sometime looking in the windows.. Lucky for me, I am not black or someone surely have shot me decades ago.
Does anyone who has been following this know who called the authorities following the killing of Ahmaud? Wouldn't most people call 911 after having shot someone if they believed they were in the right? I can find nothing in any of the news stories about this.
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What did Ahmaud Arbery steal or intend to steal from the construction sight, a nail? He obviously wasn't carrying a table saw or any other construction tool of any value when he jogging down the street where he was shot and killed by these two vigilantes.
I've toured homes under construction without express permission thousands of times ever since I was a kid because I've always been interested in residential architecture and construction. Not only that, being into real estate, I've walked around a lot of vacant houses with for sale signs, sometime looking in the windows.. Lucky for me, I am not black or someone surely have shot me decades ago.
Does anyone who has been following this know who called the authorities following the killing of Ahmaud? Wouldn't most people call 911 after having shot someone if they believed they were in the right? I can find nothing in any of the news stories about this.
I am not masochistic enough to read this, but I’m sure you made some very salient points.🤔
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I am not masochistic enough to read this, but I’m sure you made some very salient points.🤔
Hope so. That was my intention.
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I am not masochistic enough to read this, but I’m sure you made some very salient points.🤔
You didn’t miss anything....
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i dont recall this violent race-killing being all over the news. hmm wonder why
I’m assuming because he was caught and prosecuted right away and these two dudes weren’t. It’s a bad look for LE on this because it’s so late after and only because of the uproar from people about it being racist. Now it becomes about race and the media and BLM and their ilk will vilinize “Whitey” for it. A self fulfilling prophecy. These dudes need a little jail time of nothing other than to calm the racial divide. Jussie too.
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Autopsy Report: Died From 3 point blank shotgun blast, cause of death: homicide.
NO DRUGS OR ALCOHOL IN HIS SYSTEM!!!!!
So he wins a prize because he wasn't drunk or stoned? Oh wait he's dead.
Brother, he went looking for trouble and he found it. And I hope his killers spend 25 years in prison.
Final score:
Thief dead. Roscoe and Cousin Goober in prison.
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He didn't deserve to die
He wasn't a jogger
This won't end in a 1st degree murder conviction.
This
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This
pretty much..
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pretty much..
We agree!!
Time to reevaluate my thoughts on this.
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Ok i have to chime in. Im tired of everyone standing up and protecting this known criminal. He was there to steal. period. they have him on camera in other peoples homes. Things have been stolen he was on camera he didnt live in the neighborhood. He went in there to see what he could steal. He was hoping for some tools radios etc. There wasnt anything so he left. If there would of been something he would of taken it. He was caught so he took off running He was not out for a jog. The white guys did not chase him down and shoot him. They wanted to talk to him but he wouldnt stop. He knew he was violating his probation and would go back to jail. He has a criminal history. He attacked them. He could of ran the other way. he could of ran thru yards. But he chose to get violent. He would not of been accidently shot if he would of stopped and talked. The police were called. they were on their way. If you lived in a good neighborhood and suddenly peoples homes were broken into and you seen the person and he was trying to get away what would you do? most real men and real americans would try to keep them there until police showed up. thats whatthey did. only rufus attacked them first now these poor guys will go to prison because if they dont then the dindues will destroy and loot and vandalize. oops i mean protest. and anyone who doesnt see it this way is just wrong. blinded by the media and how they always portray blacks and innocent victims and whites as racist. the fact is blacks are violent racists criminals from the get go. we as whites need to start standing up to them. we used to be able to but now the laws say we are guilty of crimes if we do. so to those that are defending this piece of low life criminal violent piece of shit i hope one of these kneegulls rape your daughter or wife and then lets see how understanding you are!!
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What did Ahmaud Arbery steal or intend to steal from the construction sight, a nail? He obviously wasn't carrying a table saw or any other construction tool of any value when he jogging down the street where he was shot and killed by these two vigilantes.
I've toured homes under construction without express permission thousands of times ever since I was a kid because I've always been interested in residential architecture and construction. Not only that, being into real estate, I've walked around a lot of vacant houses with for sale signs, sometime looking in the windows.. Lucky for me, I am not black or someone surely have shot me decades ago.
Does anyone who has been following this know who called the authorities following the killing of Ahmaud? Wouldn't most people call 911 after having shot someone if they believed they were in the right? I can find nothing in any of the news stories about this.
I have a background in plumbing, electrical, and carpentry but I would never enter a house under construction through the garage, in an area where I wasn’t local. Why? Because I wouldn’t want to be confronted by a pissed off, armed owner of the property.
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Ok i have to chime in. Im tired of everyone standing up and protecting this known criminal. He was there to steal. period. they have him on camera in other peoples homes. Things have been stolen he was on camera he didnt live in the neighborhood. He went in there to see what he could steal. He was hoping for some tools radios etc. There wasnt anything so he left. If there would of been something he would of taken it. He was caught so he took off running He was not out for a jog. The white guys did not chase him down and shoot him. They wanted to talk to him but he wouldnt stop. He knew he was violating his probation and would go back to jail. He has a criminal history. He attacked them. He could of ran the other way. he could of ran thru yards. But he chose to get violent. He would not of been accidently shot if he would of stopped and talked. The police were called. they were on their way. If you lived in a good neighborhood and suddenly peoples homes were broken into and you seen the person and he was trying to get away what would you do? most real men and real americans would try to keep them there until police showed up. thats whatthey did. only rufus attacked them first now these poor guys will go to prison because if they dont then the dindues will destroy and loot and vandalize. oops i mean protest. and anyone who doesnt see it this way is just wrong. blinded by the media and how they always portray blacks and innocent victims and whites as racist. the fact is blacks are violent racists criminals from the get go. we as whites need to start standing up to them. we used to be able to but now the laws say we are guilty of crimes if we do. so to those that are defending this piece of low life criminal violent piece of shit i hope one of these kneegulls rape your daughter or wife and then lets see how understanding you are!!
Agreed. I keep reading that he was cornered or blocked in by the rednecks. I didn't see that at all. He had plenty of room to keep running. He decided to make a hard left turn and attack. I don't think they even had the guns pointed at him. I'm sure no one wants to touch this case.
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blacks are some of the biggest white-hating racists ever. everyone knows that but choose to ignore it.
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i dont recall this violent race-killing being all over the news. hmm wonder why
'i sorry i got caught mista judge'
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Ok i have to chime in. Im tired of everyone standing up and protecting this known criminal. He was there to steal. period. they have him on camera in other peoples homes. Things have been stolen he was on camera he didnt live in the neighborhood. He went in there to see what he could steal. He was hoping for some tools radios etc. There wasnt anything so he left. If there would of been something he would of taken it. He was caught so he took off running He was not out for a jog. The white guys did not chase him down and shoot him. They wanted to talk to him but he wouldnt stop. He knew he was violating his probation and would go back to jail. He has a criminal history. He attacked them. He could of ran the other way. he could of ran thru yards. But he chose to get violent. He would not of been accidently shot if he would of stopped and talked. The police were called. they were on their way. If you lived in a good neighborhood and suddenly peoples homes were broken into and you seen the person and he was trying to get away what would you do? most real men and real americans would try to keep them there until police showed up. thats whatthey did. only rufus attacked them first now these poor guys will go to prison because if they dont then the dindues will destroy and loot and vandalize. oops i mean protest. and anyone who doesnt see it this way is just wrong. blinded by the media and how they always portray blacks and innocent victims and whites as racist. the fact is blacks are violent racists criminals from the get go. we as whites need to start standing up to them. we used to be able to but now the laws say we are guilty of crimes if we do. so to those that are defending this piece of low life criminal violent piece of shit i hope one of these kneegulls rape your daughter or wife and then lets see how understanding you are!!
You think any black person would stop and talk to 3 white people in trucks getting out with shotguns????!!!
You must a special kind of stupid. Doesnt matter if he scoping out stuff to steal, they had no authority to gun him down
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You think any black person would stop and talk to 3 white people in trucks getting out with shotguns????!!!
You must a special kind of stupid. Doesnt matter if he scoping out stuff to steal, they had no authority to gun him down
of course, a black guy defending another black guy, saying its "OK to steal from people". where is your "g" gthang to defend against dirty blacks.. All I know is 1 black guy and 2 morons less in the world
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blacks are some of the biggest white-hating racists ever. everyone knows that but choose to ignore it.
If you think Blacks hate whitey, brother they really hate border brothers. Man, they despise Mexicans.
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If you think Blacks hate whitey, brother they really hate border brothers. Man, they despise Mexicans.
asians hate blacks, blacks hate asians, hate is everywhere
only focus by media is anti-white
liberals hate themselves and anything thats world-owning and dominating
whites built and own the world
other countries come here with hands out
their countries suck basically
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You think any black person would stop and talk to 3 white people in trucks getting out with shotguns????!!!
You must a special kind of stupid. Doesnt matter if he scoping out stuff to steal, they had no authority to gun him down
This isnt 1930 anymore.Its just a statistical fact that a white man is around 5x+ more likely to get assaulted or mudered by a black guy than the reverse.Can you link me to this epidemic of white on black crimes in the usa?And I dont mean cherry picked stories, I mean statistical evidence on a large scale.Exactly what does a black man have to fear from a white guy today in general?Its like me being scared of a child.
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If you think Blacks hate whitey, brother they really hate border brothers. Man, they despise Mexicans.
Well that goes both ways bc every Mexican I know, hates blacks. The last 3-4 times someone has used the N-word around me has all been Mexican guys. They view blacks as lazy. Like they have to jump the border, to do jobs they feel blacks should be doing.
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This isnt 1930 anymore.Its just a statistical fact that a white man is around 5x+ more likely to get assaulted or mudered by a black guy than the reverse.Can you link me to this epidemic of white on black crimes in the usa?And I dont mean cherry picked stories, I mean statistical evidence on a large scale.Exactly what does a black man have to fear from a white guy today in general?Its like me being scared of a child.
You feel uneased being approached by men armed with a shotgun even if they were White?
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Well that goes both ways bc every Mexican I know, hates blacks. The last 3-4 times someone has used the N-word around me has all been Mexican guys. They view blacks as lazy. Like they have to jump the border, to do jobs they feel blacks should be doing.
When I use to work for a charitable organization PACT (Positive Alternatives for Children Today) which sought to keep kids at that crucial age (8-11 years old) from joining gangs my beat was the Mar Vista Housing Project. This was deep in gang territory with drive-buys and composed of Blacks and Mexicans fighting for territory. I would try to recruit kids with jobs in which they would be selling newspaper subscriptions and provide tutoring to help them school at the PACT center. Just trying to give them a way to productively use their time and avoid the gang life. With the Mexican kids they always wanted to know how much they would get paid. I would let them know how they could make money and that they would get a free lunch during their shift (something that I did on my own and paid for out of my own pocket). Their eyes always lit up when I told them about a free lunch. They would jump on it. These little kids would brag to their family how they now had a job and would be making their own money. There was seem to real status to having a job in their culture, especially at such a young age. When I tried to recruit Blacks it was a whole different story. These little kids would laugh in my face. It's like avoiding work was just ingrained in their culture. In my years with PACT I could only recruit one Black kid but he was from Eritriea.
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Ok i have to chime in. Im tired of everyone standing up and protecting this known criminal. He was there to steal. period. they have him on camera in other peoples homes. Things have been stolen he was on camera he didnt live in the neighborhood. He went in there to see what he could steal. He was hoping for some tools radios etc. There wasnt anything so he left. If there would of been something he would of taken it. He was caught so he took off running He was not out for a jog. The white guys did not chase him down and shoot him. They wanted to talk to him but he wouldnt stop. He knew he was violating his probation and would go back to jail. He has a criminal history. He attacked them. He could of ran the other way. he could of ran thru yards. But he chose to get violent. He would not of been accidently shot if he would of stopped and talked. The police were called. they were on their way. If you lived in a good neighborhood and suddenly peoples homes were broken into and you seen the person and he was trying to get away what would you do? most real men and real americans would try to keep them there until police showed up. thats whatthey did. only rufus attacked them first now these poor guys will go to prison because if they dont then the dindues will destroy and loot and vandalize. oops i mean protest. and anyone who doesnt see it this way is just wrong. blinded by the media and how they always portray blacks and innocent victims and whites as racist. the fact is blacks are violent racists criminals from the get go. we as whites need to start standing up to them. we used to be able to but now the laws say we are guilty of crimes if we do. so to those that are defending this piece of low life criminal violent piece of shit i hope one of these kneegulls rape your daughter or wife and then lets see how understanding you are!!
He could be just another low life but was he committing a crime at the time? Was it really unjustified to be on red alert when approached by three armed men? Did he deserve to be shot to death? What if it was the other way around and it he was White and the others were Black?
Do you believe that you are helping your causing wishing those that don't agree with you to have their daughters and wives raped by Black men?
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I'm not reading 7 pages on this. A couple of factors. I think it was the father who worked for the prosecutors office (some states it's called the District attorney) and knew the victim from a weapons arrest. If he was jogging why was he in a house under construction roaming around? Was he just curious or looking for loot to take? The father and son should have called the cops. The "victim" had a right to grab that shot gun being in fear for his life. You can make a citizen's arrest for a felony. The only possible charge he faced with is trespassing and that's a stretch because they had no knowledge if he was a worker or had permission to be there. All they had was reasonable suspicion and not probable cause. Reasonable suspicion is enough for a cop to detain you but not enough for a civilian. Of course facts can be exposed that we are all not aware of. On the surface those two armed guys are going to be tried and convicted of a felony.
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The ace of spades, the ace of spades, all right
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Ok i have to chime in. Im tired of everyone standing up and protecting this known criminal. He was there to steal. period. they have him on camera in other peoples homes. Things have been stolen he was on camera he didnt live in the neighborhood. He went in there to see what he could steal. He was hoping for some tools radios etc. There wasnt anything so he left. If there would of been something he would of taken it. He was caught so he took off running He was not out for a jog. The white guys did not chase him down and shoot him. They wanted to talk to him but he wouldnt stop. He knew he was violating his probation and would go back to jail. He has a criminal history. He attacked them. He could of ran the other way. he could of ran thru yards. But he chose to get violent. He would not of been accidently shot if he would of stopped and talked. The police were called. they were on their way. If you lived in a good neighborhood and suddenly peoples homes were broken into and you seen the person and he was trying to get away what would you do? most real men and real americans would try to keep them there until police showed up. thats whatthey did. only rufus attacked them first now these poor guys will go to prison because if they dont then the dindues will destroy and loot and vandalize. oops i mean protest. and anyone who doesnt see it this way is just wrong. blinded by the media and how they always portray blacks and innocent victims and whites as racist. the fact is blacks are violent racists criminals from the get go. we as whites need to start standing up to them. we used to be able to but now the laws say we are guilty of crimes if we do. so to those that are defending this piece of low life criminal violent piece of shit i hope one of these kneegulls rape your daughter or wife and then lets see how understanding you are!!
Long story short. Let's pretend he was a white guy who was jogging along and stopped at the construction site to steal something. It would of had to be something small, since he was on foot. Apparently, there was nothing worth stealing or he would of had it with him when he was gunned down by the father and son vigilante team. What was his parole violation? Police advise against citizens (even real men) detaining people who they think are suspects or even actual perpetrators.
Your comments about someone raping the daughter or wife of anyone who disagrees with you is uncalled for. It does say a lot about where your head is at....and that would be up your ass.
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once again alot of morons with stupid responses defending the dindue. you have misunderstood my point about the raping. you are quick to defend this scum because he didnt actually steal something. you are the brainwashed idiots. i used the rape thing to wake you idiots up. you all think they are all good humans etc because you have been brainwashed or just to stupid. im not sure which.. you think blacks are wrongly accused etc. so its obvious you have never had to deal with these sub humans. so i said that about rape etc . would you still think so highly of these so called people? so if he tried to rape your wife or daughter or but couldnt get it up to complete the job should you just "let him go" ? if he went into rob a bank and the bank didnt have any money should the police not charge him with a crime? just because he didnt take anything from the site doesnt mean he wouldnt have. there wasnt anything to take. so hey lets just keep letting people come into others houses as long as they dont steal anything cuz they couldnt find anything. right? doesnt matter what race they are if they are commiting crimes then they should be stopped. if rufus wouldnt of tried to attack the guys he would of been alive today. im sick of americans always trying to blame the whites when stupid dindues do crap. and those that dont agree with me are just wrong. period. plain and simple. america has become a land of soft pussy cuckold guys who dont stand up for whats right.
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once again alot of morons with stupid responses defending the dindue. you have misunderstood my point about the raping. you are quick to defend this scum because he didnt actually steal something. you are the brainwashed idiots. i used the rape thing to wake you idiots up. you all think they are all good humans etc because you have been brainwashed or just to stupid. im not sure which.. you think blacks are wrongly accused etc. so its obvious you have never had to deal with these sub humans. so i said that about rape etc . would you still think so highly of these so called people? so if he tried to rape your wife or daughter or but couldnt get it up to complete the job should you just "let him go" ? if he went into rob a bank and the bank didnt have any money should the police not charge him with a crime? just because he didnt take anything from the site doesnt mean he wouldnt have. there wasnt anything to take. so hey lets just keep letting people come into others houses as long as they dont steal anything cuz they couldnt find anything. right? doesnt matter what race they are if they are commiting crimes then they should be stopped. if rufus wouldnt of tried to attack the guys he would of been alive today. im sick of americans always trying to blame the whites when stupid dindues do crap. and those that dont agree with me are just wrong. period. plain and simple. america has become a land of soft pussy cuckold guys who dont stand up for whats right.
Holy shit! -Looks like you have totally covered your hate filled feelings about race here. No doubt, you believe what you write is completely rational. Be honest, the only reason you used the rape comment before and repeated it again was to incite fear of and hatred towards black people. Your weak ass attempt to 'whitewash' this tirade with "doesn't matter what race they are" fails big time because you make it abundantly obvious that it is what matters more than anything else does to you.
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Long story short. Let's pretend he was a white guy who was jogging along and stopped at the construction site to steal something. It would of had to be something small, since he was on foot. Apparently, there was nothing worth stealing or he would of had it with him when he was gunned down by the father and son vigilante team. What was his parole violation? Police advise against citizens (even real men) detaining people who they think are suspects or even actual perpetrators.
Your comments about someone raping the daughter or wife of anyone who disagrees with you is uncalled for. It does say a lot about where your head is at....and that would be up your ass.
His narrative doesn't seem to match the available information. He was not on camera in other peoples homes. From what I understand he is on camera in a house under construction. He claims he knows why the guy went in there, He doesn't. No backpack, dude would look pretty suspicious walking down the street with a circular saw or drill. The rest is just so ridiculous it doesn't require me to point out why.
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When I use to work for a charitable organization PACT (Positive Alternatives for Children Today) which sought to keep kids at that crucial age (8-11 years old) from joining gangs my beat was the Mar Vista Housing Project. This was deep in gang territory with drive-buys and composed of Blacks and Mexicans fighting for territory. I would try to recruit kids with jobs in which they would be selling newspaper subscriptions and provide tutoring to help them school at the PACT center. Just trying to give them a way to productively use their time and avoid the gang life. With the Mexican kids they always wanted to know how much they would get paid. I would let them know how they could make money and that they would get a free lunch during their shift (something that I did on my own and paid for out of my own pocket). Their eyes always lit up when I told them about a free lunch. They would jump on it. These little kids would brag to their family how they now had a job and would be making their own money. There was seem to real status to having a job in their culture, especially at such a young age. When I tried to recruit Blacks it was a whole different story. These little kids would laugh in my face. It's like avoiding work was just ingrained in their culture. In my years with PACT I could only recruit one Black kid but he was from Eritriea.
Best post you have ever made.
Having a job in that culture is almost a criminal offense. Getting food stamps, welfare and section 8 housing is a status symbol to be proud of.
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His narrative doesn't seem to match the available information. He was not on camera in other peoples homes. From what I understand he is on camera in a house under construction. He claims he knows why the guy went in there, He doesn't. No backpack, dude would look pretty suspicious walking down the street with a circular saw or drill. The rest is just so ridiculous it doesn't require me to point out why.
bigbychoices knows his narrative is inaccurate. Racist people like him invent facts to suit a goal which is to spew their hate. What he writes is ridiculous. No need for you to point anything out because his intent is completely obvious.
I have walked through hundreds of houses under construction for as long as I can remember. I've jogged all over my neighborhood and many others. Never once did I have a confrontation because of this. But then, I am white.
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once again alot of morons with stupid responses defending the dindue. you have misunderstood my point about the raping. you are quick to defend this scum because he didnt actually steal something. you are the brainwashed idiots. i used the rape thing to wake you idiots up. you all think they are all good humans etc because you have been brainwashed or just to stupid. im not sure which.. you think blacks are wrongly accused etc. so its obvious you have never had to deal with these sub humans. so i said that about rape etc . would you still think so highly of these so called people? so if he tried to rape your wife or daughter or but couldnt get it up to complete the job should you just "let him go" ? if he went into rob a bank and the bank didnt have any money should the police not charge him with a crime? just because he didnt take anything from the site doesnt mean he wouldnt have. there wasnt anything to take. so hey lets just keep letting people come into others houses as long as they dont steal anything cuz they couldnt find anything. right? doesnt matter what race they are if they are commiting crimes then they should be stopped. if rufus wouldnt of tried to attack the guys he would of been alive today. im sick of americans always trying to blame the whites when stupid dindues do crap. and those that dont agree with me are just wrong. period. plain and simple. america has become a land of soft pussy cuckold guys who dont stand up for whats right.
Oh boy, you have to wish our daughters and wives to get rape to "wake us up"?
I live in Inglewood, California during the 1980 Crack epidemic for over four years. I witnessed beatings, got jumped, saw drive-bys, would hear gunfire during the night, had to pull my gat several times to defend myself, I've had my truck broken into as they tried to steal it and was able to get them to retreat when I ran out with my Springfield 1911, I've been awakened up at night by a couple of nigs acting like animals humping in the alley right outside my window -- I have a lot of experience with inner-city nigs.
Listen to you, "just because he didnt take anything from the site doesnt mean he wouldnt have.". So now you want to shoot Blacks because of what you think they might do.
"you are quick to defend this scum because he didnt actually steal something. you are the brainwashed idiots." We are brainwashed because many of us don't think he should have been shot because he "didn't actually steal something"? Didn't actually commit a crime but you think he would have so he should be confronted with a shotgun?
I've called the cops many times when I saw suspicious behavior. Though I am never afraid to get involved when I see something wrong going down I would never just take it upon myself and confront someone with a gun just because I think he might be up to no good. I know how I would feel if I saw some stranger coming at me armed.
I remember a time when I couldn't remember where I parked, it was around 7 PM and I was walking up and down the line of cars looking for mine. A cop pulled up and asked me what was up. I explained and he kind of hung around until I found my car. Someone may have reported me, maybe the cop just noticed my suspicious behavior. Because he was a cop I understood. That's how you do it. The Black guy, no matter what kind of person he turns out to be, was not doing anything illegal. Those rednecks should have just called the cops. There was no sense of urgency. No one's life was endangered.
There is a lot of reverse discrimination going down but you don't help the cause and only hurt it.
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I notice Matt retreated from this thread. He always has a lot to say except when he asked a simple direct question: Do you think the dindue deserved to be shot dead?
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Well that goes both ways bc every Mexican I know, hates blacks. The last 3-4 times someone has used the N-word around me has all been Mexican guys. They view blacks as lazy. Like they have to jump the border, to do jobs they feel blacks should be doing.
This is fact brother, I work with both and get along very well with both, heck over the last 15 years the Mexicans made it a point to teach me Spanish. And the AA’s always helped me procure and black market goods I ever needed “ shoes and electronics mainly”. But as far as the same attitude towards each other, not a chance in hell. And even more than odd is that the Mexicans and the Chicano’s don’t even seem to care for one another especially if the Chicano doesn’t know Mexican customs or Spanish.
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bigbychoices knows his narrative is inaccurate. Racist people like him invent facts to suit a goal which is to spew their hate. What he writes is ridiculous. No need for you to point anything out because his intent is completely obvious.
I have walked through hundreds of houses under construction for as long as I can remember. I've jogged all over my neighborhood and many others. Never once did have a confrontation because of this. But then, I am white.
you drove several miles to jog in another neighborhood? did you wear boots?
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yes, he wore boots, face mask, knife, had a crack pipe on him, was 10miles away from his neighbor hood, BUT he was going "jogging". Serious questions, joggers look like joggers, did he look like a jogger?
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yes, he wore boots, face mask, knife, had a crack pipe on him, was 10miles away from his neighbor hood, BUT he was going "jogging". Serious questions, joggers look like joggers, did he look like a jogger?
No, he didn't. If he seemed suspicious you can the cops. You can dress any way you want but if you are not committing a crime civilians shouldn't approach you armed with shotguns. Why is this so hard to understand. You can walk on the street, look at construction projects, (they are building a house just a couple of lots from me and I can't count the number of times I checked out the place to see how things were progressing.), and wear boots and khakis and still be within the law.
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Long story short. Let's pretend he was a white guy who was jogging along and stopped at the construction site to steal something. It would of had to be something small, since he was on foot. Apparently, there was nothing worth stealing or he would of had it with him when he was gunned down by the father and son vigilante team. What was his parole violation? Police advise against citizens (even real men) detaining people who they think are suspects or even actual perpetrators.
Your comments about someone raping the daughter or wife of anyone who disagrees with you is uncalled for. It does say a lot about where your head is at....and that would be up your ass.
He was not on foot. His car was parked a few blocks over. He lived 9.8 miles away.
He was a thief looking for trouble and he found it. Did he deserve to die? No. But he was looking for trouble and he was an idiot... you put yourself in that situation, don't be surprised if it turns ugly very fast.
Roscoe and Cousin Goober will get 20 years in prison. That certain group that loves to make rhymes and protest when stupid criminals get killed will protest. That lawyer that can't speak English will appear on TV and file a lawsuit.
Let's get those gyms reopened! Stay cool Prime.
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Highly unusual to drive your car to another residential neighborhood just to go jogging. Usually runners drive to a park or a trail.
Funny how little we’ve heard about this guy’s history since he graduated high school in 2012. Other than robbing the TV from the Walmart, what did he do for the last eight years?
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we historically dont see too many black gentlemen in VT, but somalian refugees are in some of our local towns more and more these days
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you drove several miles to jog in another neighborhood? did you wear boots?
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If you jog 3.5 miles from my house in West Linn, OR going north you are in Lake Oswego, OR which is a difference city. My son has done this round trip run many when visiting here from Germany. So, you might say he flew 5226 miles to jog in a different neighborhood. I live in the hills of West Linn, I have driven to other neighbors without hills to ride my bike or jog.
Neither my son nor I wear boots to run these days but when he was in the army he likely wore boots on maneuvers. I've read where some people will run in boots prior to basic training in order to be better prepared. Since we are only speculating, this seems as plausible excuse as any for Ahmaud to be running in boots. Problem is the photo taken of Ahmaud inside the house under construction clearly shows him not wearing boots but white tennis or running shoes. Photo below.
None of this means a hill of beans. You cannot equate suspicion of burglary with murder under any circumstances. There had been only one burglary in McMichael's neighborhood during the past 7 weeks.
"While Greg McMichael told police there had been a string of burglaries in the neighborhood, Glynn County police Lt. Cheri Bashlor said there had been only one -- a gun stolen from an unlocked vehicle in front of the McMichaels' home -- in more than seven weeks prior to the shooting."
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If you jog 3.5 miles from my house in West Linn, OR going north you are in Lake Oswego, OR which is a difference city. My son has done this round trip run many when visiting here from Germany. So, you might say he flew 5226 miles to jog in a different neighborhood. I live in the hills of West Linn, I have driven to other neighbors without hills to ride my bike or jog.
Neither my son nor I wear boots to run these days but when he was in the army he likely wore boots on maneuvers. I've read where some people will run in boots prior to basic training in order to be better prepared. Since we are only speculating, this seems as plausible excuse as any for Ahmaud to be running in boots. Problem is the photo taken of Ahmaud inside the house under construction clearly shows him not wearing boots but white tennis or running shoes. Photo below.
None of this means a hill of beans. You cannot equate suspicion of burglary with murder under any circumstances. There had been only one burglary in McMichael's neighborhood during the past 7 weeks.
"While Greg McMichael told police there had been a string of burglaries in the neighborhood, Glynn County police Lt. Cheri Bashlor said there had been only one -- a gun stolen from an unlocked vehicle in front of the McMichaels' home -- in more than seven weeks prior to the shooting."
There had only been one burglary "reported" in the neighborhood. If he was shot in the back as he was running away or shot for no reason it would be murder. Did you miss the part where he made a 90 degree turn and started attacking? Did I see a different video?
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Is this shit still going on?
Seems to have died down faster than the "Michael Brown" business.
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Is this shit still going on?
Seems to have died down faster than the "Michael Brown" business.
Probably the media did some background checking and realized this is not a guy they want to get behind.
I read his brother and cousin are criminals too. Standard ghetto cans.
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Georgia police department at center of Arbery murder investigation has disturbing past filled with scandals, corruption
The Georgia police department at the center of the Ahmaud Arbery murder investigation has been marred by scandals and claims of corruption for years, including allegations that detectives tampered with evidence, lied to prosecutors and retaliated against whistleblowers.
In fact, the charges against the Glynn County Police Department are so severe that the Georgia General Assembly is considering letting voters decide whether to disband the department altogether.
The PD's sketchy track record has come under national scrutiny after the Georgia Bureau of Investigation was asked to intervene in Arbery's case more than 2 1/2 months after local authorities largely looked the other way. Within 48 hours of the GBI getting involved, law enforcement had arrested former police officer Gregory McMichael, 64, and his son Travis McMichael, 34. They were charged with felony murder and aggravated assault.
One area resident told Fox News the allegations against the police department are well known.
"They don't have a great reputation and it's just the good ol' boys mentality," she said. "They look out for themselves and everyone around here knows it."
It's a sentiment Page Pate, a criminal defense attorney in Glynn County, echoed.
"There is not just one prior case," she told NPR. "There are many prior cases. And each one is a separate Netflix episode."
Four days after Arbery's shooting, Glynn County Police Chief John Powell was indicted for perjury and witness tampering and remains on administrative leave. Powell had been hired to clean up the department's "culture of cronyism" but instead got caught up in a scandal where he was accused of covering up wrongdoing by the police department's narcotics task force. Three other department officials were also arrested for their involvement.
Last year, the drug force was dismantled after a state-led investigation found extensive misconduct, including an incident where an officer had sex with a confidential informant.
But that's just the tip of the iceberg.
In the past decade, the Glynn County Police Department has faced at least 17 lawsuits, including allegations of illegal search and seizure.
A Nov. 8, 2019 grand jury report concluded, among other things, that there was "an ongoing culture of cover-up, failure to supervise, abuse of power and lack of accountability within the administration of the Glynn County Police Department."
A year before the report, Glynn County Police Lt. Robert Sasser killed his then-estranged wife Katie Kettles Sasser and her friend before turning the gun on himself.
Katie's family is suing the police department because they claim authorities failed to step in before the murders and knew Sasser displayed "erratic, violent" behavior. The lawsuit states Robert Sasser started to track his wife's movements after they separated by hacking her OnStar service in her car, peeped through her windows at night and used the police database to look up personal information on people she knew.
Despite complaints, the lawsuit claims he was never reprimanded.
On May 13, 2018, the cops were called to Katie Sasser's house after Robert Sasser tried to break down her door and threatened to kill all of the people inside. When Katie Sasser was speaking to police officers on her front porch, Robert Sasser allegedly lunged at her and tried again to get into the house. When the police dragged him off the porch, he pointed his hand and his finger at her and claimed, "You know what is going to happen!"
After several other documented incidents, he killed Katie, her friend and himself.
Robert Sasser's violent streak first surfaced on June 18, 2010 when he and another officer were involved in the shooting of Caroline Small, a 35-year-old mother of two who had led them on a slow-speed police chase. The "chase" ended when her car, tires flattened to the rims, spun out on a suburban street.
One officer yelled, "If she moves the car, I'm going to shoot her."
Dashcam video shows she pulled forward. Then it shows Sasser and his partner shoot Small eight times hitting her in the head and face. After the killing, the two officers compared their marksmanship. One told a witness how he saw Small's head explode. Sasser avoided punishment and remained on the force.
That same year, the Glynn County Police Department lost its certification with the state because it failed to meet basic policing standards.
Gregory McMichael, the former detective whose actions in Arbery's shooting were defended as a citizen's arrest, had been stripped of his law enforcement certification and power to arrest in February 2019, after he repeatedly failed to complete the required training.
According to documents from the Brunswick Judicial Circuit District Attorney's Office, McMichael had failed to finish mandatory firearms and use-of-force courses in 2014 as well.
None of it bodes well for the McMichaels but their lawyers argued this week the public was getting only half of the information.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-police-department-ahmaud-arbery-murder-disturbing-history
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There had only been one burglary "reported" in the neighborhood. If he was shot in the back as he was running away or shot for no reason it would be murder. Did you miss the part where he made a 90 degree turn and started attacking? Did I see a different video?
Great. He didrn't continue to run away, instead he turned to face his attackers minus any weapon, so the father and son morons with their rifles in hand shot him to death. Seems fair. ::)
Look, spin it however you wish. They murdered him, plain and simple. Nothing justifies their actions. NOTHING!
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^ probably the most disturbed person ive ever seen on a muscle forum. 70+ years old, on here non-stop, very weak minded democrat.
if some of the things i ead here are true (glory holes) well, then your opinion on anything is just a waste of everyones time. arguing, whining, very weak minded.
you dont really know what happened so dont talk like your word is fact. its meaningless. you should be really up in arms over the calculated hate crime murder of 2 older white folks in a cemetary. planned, cold blooded, calculated. not something that went badly during a struggle. are you a "karen" type?
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Great. He didrn't continue to run away, instead he turned to face his attackers minus any weapon, so the father and son morons with their rifles in hand shot him to death. Seems fair. ::)
Look, spin it however you wish. They murdered him, plain and simple. Nothing justifies their actions. NOTHING!
Talk about a lack of facts and a bunch of spin on your part. Ahmaud wasn't being attacked. The father didn't fire a shot. Neither of them had rifles. The shots were at close range as Ahmaud punched the son and tried to grab the gun from him. If he had stopped and they shot him or he ran and they shot him, that's murder. But thats's not what happened, no matter how much you and the rest of the bleeding hearts want it to be.
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New video allegedly shows Ahmaud Arbery visiting same construction site in December
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/new-video-allegedly-shows-ahmaud-arbery-visiting-same-construction-site-in-december
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New video allegedly shows Ahmaud Arbery visiting same construction site in December
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/new-video-allegedly-shows-ahmaud-arbery-visiting-same-construction-site-in-december
Visit a construction site...get shot to death🙄
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Visit a construction site...get shot to death🙄
Straw Man Argument Alert 🚨 🚨 🚨
As an aside Vince, you’ve posted the classic Chris Rock bit. Was Arbery a black person or a...?
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Visit a construction site...get shot to death🙄
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/49d231ae510bfefc4fa795b28e75e5fe/a417e4ce8b824bd1-b3/s540x810/c37dc4f5cd045424494a18c435e698afd7b4cf36.jpg)
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Beware of triathletes while pumping gas.
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Visit a construction site...get shot to death🙄
The speculation from the property owner was that he was accessing a water source. Additional video tends to indicate he was drinking from a spigot near the dock. The property owner had no concerns about the visits and was apparently aware of them from seeing them on his surveillance video. He wasn't the only one seen on video exploring the property. The killer will have to base his entire defense on the 10 seconds or so of the struggle and that will be a tough row to hoe given the circumstances that created that scenario
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The speculation from the property owner was that he was accessing a water source. Additional video tends to indicate he was drinking from a spigot near the dock. The property owner had no concerns about the visits and was apparently aware of them from seeing them on his surveillance video. He wasn't the only one seen on video exploring the property. The killer will have to base his entire defense on the 10 seconds or so of the struggle and that will be a tough row to hoe given the circumstances that created that scenario
Sounds like he had concerns to me:
Video shows person at construction site 12 days before Ahmaud Arbery’s death
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/05/13/video-shows-person-at-construction-site-12-days-before-ahmaud-arberys-death/?outputType=amp
English said he recalled four or five instances of someone entering the construction site. He said those incidents, one of which was captured in the Feb. 11 clip, began in October and continued until just prior to the deadly shooting of Arbery
English’s attorney said the two exchanged cellphone numbers, English shared the October video and Perez texted:
"Goodness. If you catch someone on your cameras, let me know right away, I can respond in mere seconds. It’s totally up to you. Our yards connect in the back and I can go either way, through he front or back, with your permission.
“Thank you for texting me. I’ll put up another camera facing that way so I can keep an eye out in real time. I watch the cameras pretty often
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Talk about a lack of facts and a bunch of spin on your part. Ahmaud wasn't being attacked. The father didn't fire a shot. Neither of them had rifles. The shots were at close range as Ahmaud punched the son and tried to grab the gun from him. If he had stopped and they shot him or he ran and they shot him, that's murder. But thats's not what happened, no matter how much you and the rest of the bleeding hearts want it to be.
Ultimately, what you think and what I think mean nothing. It will be what the Grand Jury decides that will move the case forward or not.
After they chased down Arbery, McMichael told police, Arbery and McMichael's son Travis struggled over his son's shotgun(see photo below of a shotgun). McMichael Sr. had a handgun which he apparently did not fire.
(https://www.pyramydair.com/images/PY-4572_Seneca-Double-Shot-50_1516216981.jpg)
"911 calls show the call taker was asking the men what Arbery is doing that was of criminal concern, Merritt said.
"They didn't give any answer for that, they said, 'He's a black man running down our road,' Merritt said."
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Ultimately, what you think and what I think mean nothing. It will be what the Grand Jury decides that will move the case forward or not.
After they chased down Arbery, McMichael told police, Arbery and McMichael's son Travis struggled over his son's shotgun(see photo below of a shotgun). McMichael Sr. had a handgun which he apparently did not fire.
(https://www.pyramydair.com/images/PY-4572_Seneca-Double-Shot-50_1516216981.jpg)
"911 calls show the call taker was asking the men what Arbery is doing that was of criminal concern, Merritt said.
"They didn't give any answer for that, they said, 'He's a black man running down our road,' Merritt said."
This shotgun was used to kill that guy?
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what is so fascinating about construction sites? suddenly many people claim they visit them all the time
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Beware of triathletes while pumping gas.
why isn't this on CNN?
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This shotgun was used to kill that guy?
It is just a photo of a shotgun. Unless you can see the shotgun in the video, there no way to know what it looked like. Not all shotguns look the same.
The point was that it was a shotgun that was used to kill the guy and not a handgun. Small detail really since dead is dead. But, it does suggest how close he was to the shooter. Probably not as close had it been a handgun.
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New evidence has come forth when he was confronted trespassing is when he ran. He wasn't jogging. The more I learn about this case the more I realize this is biased agenda driven reporting.
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what is so fascinating about construction sites? suddenly many people claim they visit them all the time
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"Multiple security video clips obtained by CNN show unidentified people on other occasions entering English's home, which was under construction."
I don't get this either. People see home construction sites and just go in and wander around? That's very weird, I've never done that in my life nor anyone I know.
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It is just a photo of a shotgun. Unless you can see the shotgun in the video, there no way to know what it looked like. Not all shotguns look the same.
The point was that it was a shotgun that was used to kill the guy and not a handgun. Small detail really since dead is dead. But, it does suggest how close he was to the shooter. Probably not as close had it been a handgun.
This last part is confusing as hell. How does what type of gun was used define how close or far they were apart?
On a side note, is there audio on the shooting video?
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"Multiple security video clips obtained by CNN show unidentified people on other occasions entering English's home, which was under construction."
I don't get this either. People see home construction sites and just go in and wander around? That's very weird, I've never done that in my life nor anyone I know.
I've done it: once when I was a kid, and several times for my new home.
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"Multiple security video clips obtained by CNN show unidentified people on other occasions entering English's home, which was under construction."
I don't get this either. People see home construction sites and just go in and wander around? That's very weird, I've never done that in my life nor anyone I know.
CNN is so dirty. They show that tape as proof he did nothing wrong. Nope, they were all trespassing. Think the contractor allows unknown people explore a house under construction?
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New evidence has come forth when he was confronted trespassing is when he ran. He wasn't jogging. The more I learn about this case the more I realize this is biased agenda driven reporting.
Interesting, who confronted him? Do you have a link to information saying Ahmaud was confronted right before he ran and was chased by McMichaels and son? I found nothing about this.
This is what I was able to find regarding a confrontation at the construction site. There's no indication that this earlier confrontation was with Ahmaud Arbery, just another black man. Also, it happens 2 weeks prior to the shooting.
https://wgxa.tv/news/local/arbery-shooting-suspect-had-earlier-confrontation-with-unknown-man-at-construction-site
Ahmaud Arbery may have gone to construction site for water before shooting
https://nypost.com/2020/05/15/ahmaud-arbery-may-have-entered-construction-site-for-water/
“He stopped by a property under construction where he engaged in no illegal activity and remained for only a brief period. Ahmaud did not take anything from the construction site. He did not cause any damage to the property.”
In a Dec. 17 clip, a man who authorities believe is Arbery, wearing shorts and a tank top, leaves the construction site and enters Satilla Drive jogging.
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This last part is confusing as hell. How does what type of gun was used define how close or far they were apart?
On a side note, is there audio on the shooting video?
Doesn't the length of the gun indicate there was some distance between McMichaels and Ahmaud? I'm trying to envision how if they were in a scuffle this would work. Wouldn't they be too close together physically for one to shoot the other? Maybe Ahmaud had ridiculously long arms, like 4' which is the average length of a shotgun and was thus able to attack McMichaels whilst being shot by him.
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I've done it: once when I was a kid, and several times for my new home.
Architecture and construction have always interested me. I have walked through more houses under construction than I can count. Go into any subdivision under construction and you'll see folks walking through houses that are being built. It is trespassing and builders sometimes put up no trespassing signs which they do to protect themselves should someone walking around the site get hurt. It makes it a little more difficult to sue the builder. Even realtors will ignore no trespassing signs if they want to scope the place out for their clients.
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Yeah the owner only invested a few hundred grand in the house. Why wouldn’t he want some scummy dindu with a history of theft wandering around there frequently looking for stuff to steal?
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Doesn't the length of the gun indicate there was some distance between McMichaels and Ahmaud? I'm trying to envision how if they were in a scuffle this would work. Wouldn't they be too close together physically for one to shoot the other? Maybe Ahmaud had ridiculously long arms, like 4' which is the average length of a shotgun and was thus able to attack McMichaels whilst being shot by him.
In bold....no it's not.
Did you watch the video? Did you see the struggle? Did you see the way he ran around the front of the truck and immediately attacked the guy holding the shotgun?
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Wrong is wrong - i just don’t understand why we NEVER see news about black men killing whites? Is that somehow less wrong? If a white killing a black is a hate crime is not the reverse also a hate crime?
Recently a black woman was turned away from a store for refusing to wear a mask - and while I think that is fckn stupid - she went home and had her husband and son go back to the store to murder the man who stopped her. It was reported but dropped immediately. Was that less wrong than this case?
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Doesn't the length of the gun indicate there was some distance between McMichaels and Ahmaud? I'm trying to envision how if they were in a scuffle this would work. Wouldn't they be too close together physically for one to shoot the other? Maybe Ahmaud had ridiculously long arms, like 4' which is the average length of a shotgun and was thus able to attack McMichaels whilst being shot by him.
if you watch the video they come back into frame. Ahmaud holding the barrel
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Wrong is wrong - i just don’t understand why we NEVER see news about black men killing whites? Is that somehow less wrong? If a white killing a black is a hate crime is not the reverse also a hate crime?
Recently a black woman was turned away from a store for refusing to wear a mask - and while I think that is fckn stupid - she went home and had her husband and son go back to the store to murder the man who stopped her. It was reported but dropped immediately. Was that less wrong than this case?
doesn't fit their anti white agenda
i really don't know how any white person can vote democrat at this point when it's so obvious they want you dead
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In bold....no it's not.
Did you watch the video? Did you see the struggle? Did you see the way he ran around the front of the truck and immediately attacked the guy holding the shotgun?
Yes, I saw the video. It cuts off of Ahmuad just as he's approaching the rear of the vehicle. McMichaels is standing at the driver door. When the video takes up again, McMichaels appears to have moved around the front of the pickup as Ahmaud is seen coming from the passenger side towards the front and then you see the scuffle. What you call attacking seems a little off. From what I read the video we see starts after an incident where the McMichaels had already tried to confront Arbery. This shows where they are cutting him off for the second time. It's obvious McMichaels wasn't merely standing still at the driver door. he had moved to intercept Arbery. Arbery seeing this likely makes a decision that these guys aren't giving up and he tries to take the gun away from McMichaels. Sounds more like self defense than attacking if what I described is accurate. If it's not, please provide the info and I will reevaluate
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Yes, I saw the video. It cuts off of Ahmuad just as he's approaching the rear of the vehicle. McMichaels is standing at the driver door. When the video takes up again, McMichaels appears to have moved around the front of the pickup as Ahmaud is seen coming from the passenger side towards the front and then you see the scuffle. What you call attacking seems a little off. From what I read the video we see starts after an incident where the McMichaels had already tried to confront Arbery. This shows where they are cutting him off for the second time. It's obvious McMichaels wasn't merely standing still at the driver door. he had moved to intercept Arbery. Arbery seeing this likely makes a decision that these guys aren't giving up and he tries to take the gun away from McMichaels. Sounds more like self defense than attacking if what I described is accurate. If it's not, please provide the info and I will reevaluate
Video is shit and tough to make out. If you slow it down at 19-20 seconds in, you can clearly see the guy change directions in his run and charge directly at the other guy holding the gun who is standing on the drivers side of the vehicle still, gun down. A fight ensues and we lose them out of frame, when they come back in frame, the dead guy is holding the barrel of the gun, striking the guy holding the stock. He quickly lets go, staggers and dies.
You say it's obvious McMichaels wasn't standing at the drivers door, what do you base that on? The fact that he moved around to the front of the truck?
BTW, I'm in no way defending these guys, I feel like they were definitely looking for trouble, but I also don't think the dead guy was Mr Innocent out for a leisurely 20 miles jog.
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Video is shit and tough to make out. If you slow it down at 19-20 seconds in, you can clearly see the guy change directions in his run and charge directly at the other guy holding the gun who is standing on the drivers side of the vehicle still, gun down. A fight ensues and we lose them out of frame, when they come back in frame, the dead guy is holding the barrel of the gun, striking the guy holding the stock. He quickly lets go, staggers and dies.
You say it's obvious McMichaels wasn't standing at the drivers door, what do you base that on? The fact that he moved around to the front of the truck?
BTW, I'm in no way defending these guys, I feel like they were definitely looking for trouble, but I also don't think the dead guy was Mr Innocent out for a leisurely 20 miles jog.
I don't think we can say Travis was standing at the drivers side. What we do know from the video is Travis exited the vehicle and was by the drivers door. In the next instance we see him being driven back now in front of the truck on the drivers side. You can tell from the video when they were engaged, McMichaels was no longer at the door. So yes, I base it on the fact he moved...
Here's what I think. Aerbury wasn't a saint. I don't think he stole anything from that site. Regardless of what kind of person Arbery was, that day in that instance, his death was the result of actions of another ultimately. Travis should pay some consequences for his actions. Dad should probably put himself under house arrest for getting his son involved in it.
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I don't think we can say Travis was standing at the drivers side. What we do know from the video is Travis exited the vehicle and was by the drivers door. In the next instance we see him being driven back now in front of the truck on the drivers side. You can tell from the video when they were engaged, McMichaels was no longer at the door. So yes, I base it on the fact he moved...
Here's what I think. Aerbury wasn't a saint. I don't think he stole anything from that site. Regardless of what kind of person Arbery was, that day in that instance, his death was the result of actions of another ultimately. Travis should pay some consequences for his actions. Dad should probably put himself under house arrest for getting his son involved in it.
If you play the video in .25 speed, you can clearly see that guy doesn't go in front of the truck, he stays in line with the door at the front, he doesn't cross the truck to engage. The guy running, cuts a sharp left and engages, the guy with the gun steps backwards and the struggle starts. All fuckery for sure, but it's not like they chased this guy down, captured him and then held him down and shot him. The question that will set them free, I believe will be simply, what if that guy hadn't run across the front of the truck and attacked the guy holding the gun? Can a prosecutor prove an intent to kill? Having a gun on you doesn't mean you're going to kill someone. Can a defender prove self defense? Did that guy with the gun have a reasonable fear that the other guy was going to take his gun and cause him harm?
Slow that video down and watch frame by frame, then tell me what you think?
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If you play the video in .25 speed, you can clearly see that guy doesn't go in front of the truck, he stays in line with the door at the front, he doesn't cross the truck to engage. The guy running, cuts a sharp left and engages, the guy with the gun steps backwards and the struggle starts. All fuckery for sure, but it's not like they chased this guy down, captured him and then held him down and shot him. The question that will set them free, I believe will be simply, what if that guy hadn't run across the front of the truck and attacked the guy holding the gun? Can a prosecutor prove an intent to kill? Having a gun on you doesn't mean you're going to kill someone. Can a defender prove self defense? Did that guy with the gun have a reasonable fear that the other guy was going to take his gun and cause him harm?
Slow that video down and watch frame by frame, then tell me what you think?
I picked up something new to me. Right before the video cuts away Arbery appears to be intending to run past on the drivers side, Travis appears to have backed away from the truck, it seems to me as if to cut him off, and then Arbery cuts right to the passenger side. The video pulls away at the very second he is making the cut. When it picks up it appears to me that Travis had left the last spot seen in which was about 7 ft away from the truck to now being at the drivers side front of the truck. One leg looks like it is actually in front of the truck as he is being pushed back by Arbery. Looks to me like Arbery had intended to run past on the drivers side, saw Travis move to intercept, darted around the passenger side, as he was coming to front passenger side saw Travis closing the distance and moved to engage him
Check it out let me know what you think. You're right, the video is shi
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I picked up something new to me. Right before the video cuts away Arbery appears to be intending to run past on the drivers side, Travis appears to have backed away from the truck, it seems to me as if to cut him off, and then Arbery cuts right to the passenger side. The video pulls away at the very second he is making the cut. When it picks up it appears to me that Travis had left the last spot seen in which was about 7 ft away from the truck to now being at the drivers side front of the truck. One leg looks like it is actually in front of the truck as he is being pushed back by Arbery. Looks to me like Arbery had intended to run past on the drivers side, saw Travis move to intercept, darted around the passenger side, as he was coming to front passenger side saw Travis closing the distance and moved to engage him
Check it out let me know what you think. You're right, the video is shi
That's pretty much how I saw it. Ahmaud ran to the passenger side to avoid a confrontation with the guy waiting for him on the driver's side. He ran around to the passenger's side to confront Ahmaud. Those guys in the truck were looking for a confrontation. They initiated the incident. They were there waiting for him armed with shotguns. Ahmaud was not committing any crime at the time of the incident.
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That's pretty much how I saw it. Ahmaud ran to the passenger side to avoid a confrontation with the guy waiting for him on the driver's side. He ran around to the passenger's side to confront Ahmaud. Those guys in the truck were looking for a confrontation. They initiated the incident. They were there waiting for him armed with shotguns. Ahmaud was not committing any crime at the time of the incident.
Couple of points.
1. If he didn't have permission to be in that house under construction he was trespassing. Doesn't matter that others have done the same.
2. He ran after he was confronted for being in the building. Was he jogging?
3. They can legally carry weapons in that state
4. A civilian can make a civilian arrest for a felony holding a person for the cops.
5. The father was a retired cop who knew the guy from a previous weapons charge.
6. He grabbed the shotgun. In light of the previous weapons charge after fighting for the guy's gun was he justified in shooting him or should he have surrendered his legally carried weapon to him?
Personally I would have called the cops and have never gone to look for the guy.
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I picked up something new to me. Right before the video cuts away Arbery appears to be intending to run past on the drivers side, Travis appears to have backed away from the truck, it seems to me as if to cut him off, and then Arbery cuts right to the passenger side. The video pulls away at the very second he is making the cut. When it picks up it appears to me that Travis had left the last spot seen in which was about 7 ft away from the truck to now being at the drivers side front of the truck. One leg looks like it is actually in front of the truck as he is being pushed back by Arbery. Looks to me like Arbery had intended to run past on the drivers side, saw Travis move to intercept, darted around the passenger side, as he was coming to front passenger side saw Travis closing the distance and moved to engage him
Check it out let me know what you think. You're right, the video is shi
This absolutely will be the point of debate. Some will see it as Travis trying to cut him off and engage and some will see it as Arbery going out of his way to engage. If Arbery had continued to run, what would have happened? The defense will say if he didn't run towards Travis, nothing would have happened. Of course we all "know" these guys were out looking for trouble but that has to be proven in court.Couple of points.
1. If he didn't have permission to be in that house under construction he was trespassing. Doesn't matter that others have done the same.
2. He ran after he was confronted for being in the building. Was he jogging?
3. They can legally carry weapons in that state
4. A civilian can make a civilian arrest for a felony holding a person for the cops.
5. The father was a retired cop who knew the guy from a previous weapons charge.
6. He grabbed the shotgun. In light of the previous weapons charge after fighting for the guy's gun was he justified in shooting him or should he have surrendered his legally carried weapon to him?
Personally I would have called the cops and have never gone to look for the guy.
#5 & 6 will be heavily relied on in the defenses case.
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That's pretty much how I saw it. Ahmaud ran to the passenger side to avoid a confrontation with the guy waiting for him on the driver's side. He ran around to the passenger's side to confront Ahmaud. Those guys in the truck were looking for a confrontation. They initiated the incident. They were there waiting for him armed with shotguns. Ahmaud was not committing any crime at the time of the incident.
No he didn't. You can clearly see in the slowed down video, Travis is at the front of the truck on the drivers side, maybe with one leg in front of the truck. Arbery crosses the entire truck from the passenger side, to the drivers side to engage the guy with the gun.
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The speculation from the property owner was that he was accessing a water source. Additional video tends to indicate he was drinking from a spigot near the dock. The property owner had no concerns about the visits and was apparently aware of them from seeing them on his surveillance video. He wasn't the only one seen on video exploring the property. The killer will have to base his entire defense on the 10 seconds or so of the struggle and that will be a tough row to hoe given the circumstances that created that scenario
Agnostic, do you still believe the owner wasn’t concerned about trespassers?
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/texts-reveal-police-enlisted-help-suspect-arberys-death-months-before-shooting/TO367WP3HVAYHC2MHABCT2EL2Y/
BRUNSWICK, Ga. — Channel 2 Action Newshas learned that police in south Georgia enlisted help from one of the suspects accused of murdering Ahmaud Arbery to keep an eye on a construction site the homeowner reported trespassers on.
Channel 2′s Tony Thomas obtained text messages sent by a Glynn County police officer to Larry English, who owned the construction site where Arbery appeared on surveillance video before he was shot and killed.
The texts instructed English, who lives two hours away from the property, to call Gregory McMichael if any issues came up with people caught trespassing.
“Greg is retired law enforcement and also a retired investigator from the DA’s office,” was the message Officer Robert Rash texted to English on Dec. 20, 2019. Rush also included McMichael’s phone number and conveyed the message that McMichael "said please call him day or night when you get action on your camera.”
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Regardless of Arbery past .
It won't matter.. Those 2 idiot's will be spending a long time in prison..
The guy wasn't committing a crime while out jogging, walking What ever you want to call it..
This 2 idiot's should of stayed home and let police handle it.. Now they will be set as an example and will get convicted / go to prison.. Case closed...
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Regardless of Arbery past .
It won't matter.. Those 2 idiot's will be spending a long time in prison..
The guy wasn't committing a crime while out jogging, walking What ever you want to call it..
This 2 idiot's should of stayed home and let police handle it.. Now they will be set as an example and will get convicted / go to prison.. Case closed...
I agree with your post. If Arbery intended to commit a crime would he not have done it in the middle of the night instead of a bright sunny day?
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Agnostic, do you still believe the owner wasn’t concerned about trespassers?
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/texts-reveal-police-enlisted-help-suspect-arberys-death-months-before-shooting/TO367WP3HVAYHC2MHABCT2EL2Y/
BRUNSWICK, Ga. — Channel 2 Action Newshas learned that police in south Georgia enlisted help from one of the suspects accused of murdering Ahmaud Arbery to keep an eye on a construction site the homeowner reported trespassers on.
Channel 2′s Tony Thomas obtained text messages sent by a Glynn County police officer to Larry English, who owned the construction site where Arbery appeared on surveillance video before he was shot and killed.
The texts instructed English, who lives two hours away from the property, to call Gregory McMichael if any issues came up with people caught trespassing.
“Greg is retired law enforcement and also a retired investigator from the DA’s office,” was the message Officer Robert Rash texted to English on Dec. 20, 2019. Rush also included McMichael’s phone number and conveyed the message that McMichael "said please call him day or night when you get action on your camera.”
The homeowner Larry English wants nothing to do with the McMichael duo.
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Wrong is wrong - i just don’t understand why we NEVER see news about black men killing whites? Is that somehow less wrong? If a white killing a black is a hate crime is not the reverse also a hate crime?
Recently a black woman was turned away from a store for refusing to wear a mask - and while I think that is fckn stupid - she went home and had her husband and son go back to the store to murder the man who stopped her. It was reported but dropped immediately. Was that less wrong than this case?
Sure blacks kill whites. Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime in the U.S. Much of it is black on black. They also tend to get the book thrown at them by law enforcement.
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Sure blacks kill whites. Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime in the U.S. Much of it is black on black. They also tend to get the book thrown at them by law enforcement.
As for what happened to this young man, I do not know the entire story but I am saddened by it. I don't know him and I doubt he was a saint or sinner alone but like most of us, a bit of both.
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The lib media have backed themselves into a corner with the idiotic jogging narrative. Pray tell who was that young man?
https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/suspect-arbery-shooting-had-offered-help-police/gFMpkRpX0Zk5edjvXrE6sN/
The property, owned by Larry English, had a motion-activated camera system that had picked up unknown people going onto the site, including a young man who started entering at night in late October.
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The lib media have backed themselves into a corner with the idiotic jogging narrative. Pray tell who was that young man?
https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/suspect-arbery-shooting-had-offered-help-police/gFMpkRpX0Zk5edjvXrE6sN/
The property, owned by Larry English, had a motion-activated camera system that had picked up unknown people going onto the site, including a young man who started entering at night in late October.
Larry English stated Arbery wasn't the young man who was entering at night. Arbery is no angel but clearly he wouldn't commit a crime in the middle of a bright, Sunday when everyone is home.
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Larry English stated Arbery wasn't the young man who was entering at night. Arbery is no angel but clearly he wouldn't commit a crime in the middle of a bright, Sunday when everyone is home.
Please, he had a criminal record and probation violations. Why would he risk a trespassing charge for no particular reason? Either he was a criminal, a fucking idiot or both. I’d go with the latter.
You seem to know all about him. What was he doing since his HS graduation in 2012?
Why haven’t we heard from past employers or coworkers telling us what a wonderful guy he was? My guess is that there are none.
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I'm not reading all this speculation, haha.
1) was the guy actually jogging?
2) was he trespassing?
3) did he have known priors?
4) did he grab the gun?
That info will allow me to decide if the rednecks are pieces of shit or not....I mean other than the obvious manslaughter because they couldn't wait for real cops.
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The guy wasnt out jogging, his car was close by
that image of all the black stats, wow, shitty race of beings
those who turn a brown eye to that are trash
i respect the blacks who know their race is filled with shitty people
they dont get the book thrown at them any worse, deserve what get
blacks, almost as bad as democratic scum
wow
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I'm not reading all this speculation, haha.
1) was the guy actually jogging?
2) was he trespassing?
3) did he have known priors?
4) did he grab the gun?
That info will allow me to decide if the rednecks are pieces of shit or not....I mean other than the obvious manslaughter because they couldn't wait for real cops.
My guess is the old man missed being a cop and was trying to relive the glory days. Ended up getting more than he bargained for. Should have left it to the cops who were still on the job.
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My guess is the old man missed being a cop and was trying to relive the glory days. Ended up getting more than he bargained for. Should have left it to the cops who were still on the job.
It sounds like he wasn't even good at being a cop:
Gregory McMichael, the former detective whose actions in Arbery's shooting were defended as a citizen's arrest, had been stripped of his law enforcement certification and power to arrest in February 2019, after he repeatedly failed to complete the required training.
According to documents from the Brunswick Judicial Circuit District Attorney's Office, McMichael had failed to finish mandatory firearms and use-of-force courses in 2014 as well.
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In bold....no it's not.
Did you watch the video? Did you see the struggle? Did you see the way he ran around the front of the truck and immediately attacked the guy holding the shotgun?
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Yes. I watched the video. I saw the struggle. Attacking someone pointing a shotgun at them is not a smart move, obviously. What would you do if someone was pointing a shotgun at you?
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Yes. I watched the video. I saw the struggle. Attacking someone pointing a shotgun at them is not a smart move, obviously. What would you do if someone was pointing a shotgun at you?
Your shotgun pic is dumb, nobody holds a shotgun by the very end of the buttstock, let alone is capable of shooting someone that way. If you like, I could post pics of much shorter shotguns? At no point during the struggle/shooting were they 4' apart until he let go of the gun.
Last time someone pointed a shotgun at me, (over 25 years ago) I stopped fucking moving and they walked off.
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Yes. I watched the video. I saw the struggle. Attacking someone pointing a shotgun at them is not a smart move, obviously. What would you do if someone was pointing a shotgun at you?
If I was going for a jog and was confronted, I'd stop and politely ask what the problem is. I think any level headed non criminal would do the same.
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According to his mother, he was an avid jogger. These days almost every serious runner records runs on a Garmin. I wonder if he had one😂. If he did, it would show his routes during his many runs..
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Your shotgun pic is dumb, nobody holds a shotgun by the very end of the buttstock, let alone is capable of shooting someone that way. If you like, I could post pics of much shorter shotguns? At no point during the struggle/shooting were they 4' apart until he let go of the gun.
Last time someone pointed a shotgun at me, (over 25 years ago) I stopped fucking moving and they walked off.
Unlike Ahmaud, you are still alive. You made the smarter move by not moving. Although no one has ever pointed a shotgun at me, if they had, I would most likely have done what you did.
I wrote that the average length of a shotgun is 4' you replied that it is not. So, I posted a photo of a shotgun that is 49" long. If we'd been talking about the barrel of a shotgun, you'd be right, since the barrel of most shotguns sold in the U.S. are 18" long. The distance from my elbow to my finger tips is approximately 18" and I have fairly long arms. Some shotguns are a short 26" in total length. So yeah they come in different sizes. None of this will likely make much difference when the case goes before the Grand Jury and later if it goes to trial.
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I agree with your post. If Arbery intended to commit a crime would he not have done it in the middle of the night instead of a bright sunny day?
;D HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA!
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If I was going for a jog and was confronted, I'd stop and politely ask what the problem is. I think any level headed non criminal would do the same.
Thank you sir. Exactly.
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If I was going for a jog and was confronted, I'd stop and politely ask what the problem is. I think any level headed non criminal would do the same.
What would you do if you were jogging at night ,and 2 black males with guns confronted you?
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Couple of points.
1. If he didn't have permission to be in that house under construction he was trespassing. Doesn't matter that others have done the same.
2. He ran after he was confronted for being in the building. Was he jogging?
3. They can legally carry weapons in that state
4. A civilian can make a civilian arrest for a felony holding a person for the cops.
5. The father was a retired cop who knew the guy from a previous weapons charge.
6. He grabbed the shotgun. In light of the previous weapons charge after fighting for the guy's gun was he justified in shooting him or should he have surrendered his legally carried weapon to him?
Personally I would have called the cops and have never gone to look for the guy.
1. It does matter. I've walked through houses being constructed countless times. When I visited my brother in Georgia we spent a day where they were building a bunch of homes to check it out. Just one lot over where I live they are building a house which I checked out weekly. If others can do it why not Ahmaud? Did those who confronted him own the property? Why is it their business?
2. Why was he confronted? Who are those guys to take it upon themselves to question him? I saw him running on the video. Those guys were waiting for him to confront him.
3. Yes, and? No one is making an issue about their right to be armed.
4. A civilian cannot arrest someone for trespassing nor is it a felony, this was already explained, nor can they arrest someone because they believe he may intend to commit a crime.
5. So. Was Ahmaud committing any crime at the time of the confrontation?
6. Some stranger comes at you pointing a shotgun? What right does he have to do that? Some may just surrender with their hands up another would rather defend themselves. If a shotgun barrel was pointed at me inches away I would take my chances and grab the barrel and fight for my life. I have no idea what that guy's intentions are but from my perspective, it can't be good.
These guys were looking for trouble. They came at him armed which implies they were preparing for a possible confrontation. They should have called the cops which is what most sensible people do if they see something suspicious. They killed another man that they threatened and confronted and whom Ahmaud decided to defend himself.
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No he didn't. You can clearly see in the slowed down video, Travis is at the front of the truck on the drivers side, maybe with one leg in front of the truck. Arbery crosses the entire truck from the passenger side, to the drivers side to engage the guy with the gun.
What am I looking at here? Though the vid is blurry I see one guy in the truck bed and another (very blurry image) standing in the middle of the street which is when Ahmaud veers to the right to avoid him.
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The homeowner Larry English wants nothing to do with the McMichael duo.
OK, so the actual owner of the property didn't seem to have much concern about Amhaud being on his property yet the McMichael's, who had no relationship or communication with the owner, decided to take it upon themselves to enforce trespassing laws.
Instead of acting like self-appointed enforcers, they should have just reported it to the police if they felt there was anything suspicious. But instead, they armed themselves and confronted Ahmaud.
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Please, he had a criminal record and probation violations. Why would he risk a trespassing charge for no particular reason? Either he was a criminal, a fucking idiot or both. I’d go with the latter.
You seem to know all about him. What was he doing since his HS graduation in 2012?
Why haven’t we heard from past employers or coworkers telling us what a wonderful guy he was? My guess is that there are none.
Assuming he was no angel and had a criminal record, so what? What crime was he committing at the time? Trespassing? That justifies armed civilians stopping him?
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Assuming he was no angel and had a criminal record, so what? What crime was he committing at the time? Trespassing? That justifies armed civilians stopping him?
Did you not see this?
My guess is the old man missed being a cop and was trying to relive the glory days. Ended up getting more than he bargained for. Should have left it to the cops who were still on the job.
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Did you not see this?
Only after I made this post.
You made a good point and I was thinking along those same lines as to why he took it upon himself to play cop again. Many go into LE because the like and get off on the power.
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1. It does matter. I've walked through houses being constructed countless times. When I visited my brother in Georgia we spent a day where they were building a bunch of homes to check it out. Just one lot over where I live they are building a house which I checked out weekly. If others can do it why not Ahmaud? Did those who confronted him own the property? Why is it their business?
2. Why was he confronted? Who are those guys to take it upon themselves to question him? I saw him running on the video. Those guys were waiting for him to confront him.
3. Yes, and? No one is making an issue about their right to be armed.
4. A civilian cannot arrest someone for trespassing nor is it a felony, this was already explained, nor can they arrest someone because they believe he may intend to commit a crime.
5. So. Was Ahmaud committing any crime at the time of the confrontation?
6. Some stranger comes at you pointing a shotgun? What right does he have to do that? Some may just surrender with their hands up another would rather defend themselves. If a shotgun barrel was pointed at me inches away I would take my chances and grab the barrel and fight for my life. I have no idea what that guy's intentions are but from my perspective, it can't be good.
These guys were looking for trouble. They came at him armed which implies they were preparing for a possible confrontation. They should have called the cops which is what most sensible people do if they see something suspicious. They killed another man that they threatened and confronted and whom Ahmaud decided to defend himself.
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1. It does matter. I've walked through houses being constructed countless times. When I visited my brother in Georgia we spent a day where they were building a bunch of homes to check it out. Just one lot over where I live they are building a house which I checked out weekly. If others can do it why not Ahmaud? Did those who confronted him own the property? Why is it their business?
2. Why was he confronted? Who are those guys to take it upon themselves to question him? I saw him running on the video. Those guys were waiting for him to confront him.
3. Yes, and? No one is making an issue about their right to be armed.
4. A civilian cannot arrest someone for trespassing nor is it a felony, this was already explained, nor can they arrest someone because they believe he may intend to commit a crime.
5. So. Was Ahmaud committing any crime at the time of the confrontation?
6. Some stranger comes at you pointing a shotgun? What right does he have to do that? Some may just surrender with their hands up another would rather defend themselves. If a shotgun barrel was pointed at me inches away I would take my chances and grab the barrel and fight for my life. I have no idea what that guy's intentions are but from my perspective, it can't be good.
These guys were looking for trouble. They came at him armed which implies they were preparing for a possible confrontation. They should have called the cops which is what most sensible people do if they see something suspicious. They killed another man that they threatened and confronted and whom Ahmaud decided to defend himself.
Trespassing of structure is a burglary. That is a felony. So an civilian arrest for a felony can only happen at the immediate time the crime was committed? If you were roaming through houses being constructed and the owner wanted to press charges you wouldn't have a defense in court.
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Trespassing of structure is a burglary. That is a felony. So an civilian arrest for a felony can only happen at the immediate time the crime was committed? If you were roaming through houses being constructed and the owner wanted to press charges you wouldn't have a defense in court.
Where did you get your law degree? U. of Mexico?
As a person of color yourself do you think that race was not a factor here?
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Trespassing of structure is a burglary. That is a felony. So an civilian arrest for a felony can only happen at the immediate time the crime was committed? If you were roaming through houses being constructed and the owner wanted to press charges you wouldn't have a defense in court.
Sorry, my friend, burglary is not trespassing that's why they are two different words and cannot be used interchangeably. Trespassing is being on someone's property without permission which is not a felony. Burglary is entering a building or property and committing or intending to commit a crime, usually theft. Ahmaud committed no crime while in that construction site and in which we would learn that that the actual owner had little concern. It certainly did not justify a civilian arrests.
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Ahmaud veers to the right to avoid him.
It is pretty clear
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What would you do if you were jogging at night ,and 2 black males with guns confronted you?
Depends. Worst case scenario for me is I'd have to run away.
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Depends. Worst case scenario for me is I'd have to run away.
Nope , you would stop and politely ask what the problem is.
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Nope , you would stop and politely ask what the problem is.
Yes. But I said worst case scenario I'd run away. Had I been confronted because I was doing something suspicious I would not ask what the problem is I would just run away. If had had been doing nothing wrong and felt like I was in danger I would have also ran away.
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Yes. But I said worst case scenario I'd run away. Had I been confronted because I was doing something suspicious I would not ask what the problem is I would just run away. If had had been doing nothing wrong and felt like I was in danger I would have also ran away.
That's exactly what Ahmaud tried to do
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That's exactly what Ahmaud tried to do
Our disagreement is based on our different understanding of direction. Running away to me is moving in the opposite direction of a threat. Your definition is running towards, using a truck for cover, then making a hard left directly into the threat.
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What am I looking at here? Though the vid is blurry I see one guy in the truck bed and another (very blurry image) standing in the middle of the street which is when Ahmaud veers to the right to avoid him.
Yes, try a few frames later when that guy is on the right of the truck and as soon as he clears the front, he makes a hard left turn and attacks the guy holding the shotgun.
BTW, all the people bringing up the dad and his LE background, he was in the bed of the truck, not doing anything.
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What would you do if you were jogging at night ,and 2 black males with guns confronted you?
It doesn't even have to be a night. If the jogger was White and the armed guys were Black and the situation was exactly the same the opinions here would be very different. It would automatically be assumed that the Hebrews were looking for trouble.
There is a lot of reverse racism where the minority gets a pass but it doesn't help our cause when it becomes a Matt Canning knee-jerk reaction every time a Black is involved.
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Yes, try a few frames later when that guy is on the right of the truck and as soon as he clears the front, he makes a hard left turn and attacks the guy holding the shotgun.
BTW, all the people bringing up the dad and his LE background, he was in the bed of the truck, not doing anything.
Not trying to argue for the sake of arguing but genuinely interested in the truth. I see a guy in the truck bed and I see a guy standing in the middle of the street. That's when Ahmaud veers to the right, which seems to me in an attempt to avoid the guy standing in the street. Then you see a glimpse of the man with the shotgun walking across the front of the truck presumably to confront the jogger.
Again the jogger veers to the right when he sees the guy with the shotgun standing there in the middle of the street. Then we see the guy with the gun walk over to the other side, the driver's side, to confront the jogger. There is a point where the video veers off and you don't see either of them. We can assume that they met around the front of the truck.
To me, it seems obvious the armed man fully intended to confront the jogger by walking to the other side when he saw the jogger veer to the right to avoid him.
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Not trying to argue for the sake of arguing but genuinely interested in the truth. I see a guy in the truck bed and I see a guy standing in the middle of the street. That's when Ahmaud veers to the right, which seems to me in an attempt to avoid the guy standing in the street. Then you see a glimpse of the man with the shotgun walking across the front of the truck presumably to confront the jogger.
Again the jogger veers to the right when he sees the guy with the shotgun standing there in the middle of the street. Then we see the guy with the gun walk over to the other side, the driver's side, to confront the jogger. There is a point where the video veers off and you don't see either of them. We can assume that they met around the front of the truck.
To me, it seems obvious the armed man fully intended to confront the jogger by walking to the other side when he saw the jogger veer to the right to avoid him.
There's a section of time between your two screenshots. Slow the video down to .25 speed and take a look. You can clearly see the runner make a hard left across the front of the truck and go after the guy holding the shotgun. This screenshot shows the guy with the shotgun backing up as the runner is coming towards him. The guy with the shotgun doesn't cross the truck to the passenger side. BTW my screenshot was taken just after yours where you can see the guy holding the shotgun is about one step forward towards the front of the truck.
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There's a section of time between your two screenshots. Slow the video down to .25 speed and take a look. You can clearly see the runner make a hard left across the front of the truck and go after the guy holding the shotgun. This screenshot shows the guy with the shotgun backing up as the runner is coming towards him. The guy with the shotgun doesn't cross the truck to the passenger side. BTW my screenshot was taken just after yours where you can see the guy holding the shotgun is about one step forward towards the front of the truck.
Please post that as a screenshot. What I see is Ahmaud veering right to avoid the man with the gun, the guy with the gun walks across the front of the truck to confront Ahmaud. Now as Ahmaud runs along the side and around the truck to get back on the road he is met with a gun pointing a shotgun at him. He obviously feels threatened and his instinct is to attack and grab the gun barrel pointing at him.
The fact remains that those two men had every intention to confront Ahmaud making them the aggressors and therefore they cannot claim self-defense as they initiated the confrontation. You can question Ahmauds actions but if someone pointed a gun at me I am going to assume that he intends to use it. It would depend on the situation as to my chances of defending myself. With a handgun, it's a lot riskier but with a shotgun barrel pointed inches from you, you have a much better chance grabbing the and misdirecting the barrel which is what Ahmaud successfully did. But during the struggle, he could not maintain control and got shot.
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Did he run to the left? Did he run to the right? How much did the shotgun weigh? Did he grab the shotgun? What color were his underpants?
All moot.
He went looking for trouble and he found it. That's how works. Don't start shit and there won't be any shit.
Buckwheat went out to steal. Now he's dead. The end.
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Did he run to the left? Did he run to the right? How much did the shotgun weigh? Did he grab the shotgun? What color were his underpants?
All moot.
He went looking for trouble and he found it. That's how works. Don't start shit and there won't be any shit.
Buckwheat went out to steal. Now he's dead. The end.
He did not steal anything. There is no evidence that he made any trouble and whether or not he was looking for trouble can only be determined if you can read another person's mind or intention.
Would you feel the same way if the jogger was White and the armed men were Black?
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Couple of points.
1. If he didn't have permission to be in that house under construction he was trespassing. Doesn't matter that others have done the same.
True, and trespassing in Texas for an example is a class C misdemeanor much like a speeding ticket and notice to vacate is required
2. He ran after he was confronted for being in the building. Was he jogging?
I think he ran (look like at a jogging pace) when he was done looking around. I don't think he even knew people knew he was in there
3. They can legally carry weapons in that state
4. A civilian can make a civilian arrest for a felony holding a person for the cops.
No felony was committed
5. The father was a retired cop who knew the guy from a previous weapons charge.
Has it been established he knew then or did he realize it later?
6. He grabbed the shotgun. In light of the previous weapons charge after fighting for the guy's gun was he justified in shooting him or should he have surrendered his legally carried weapon to him?
The previous weapons charge is irrelevant and again it hasn't been established McMichaels had any idea at the time who that was. Travis shouldn't have had the weapon and trying to intercept him to begin with. That will make a difference in court
Personally I would have called the cops and have never gone to look for the guy.
Most reasonable people would which is why this is in the news along with the fact it seemed no one was going to do anything about it
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Agnostic, do you still believe the owner wasn’t concerned about trespassers?
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/texts-reveal-police-enlisted-help-suspect-arberys-death-months-before-shooting/TO367WP3HVAYHC2MHABCT2EL2Y/
BRUNSWICK, Ga. — Channel 2 Action Newshas learned that police in south Georgia enlisted help from one of the suspects accused of murdering Ahmaud Arbery to keep an eye on a construction site the homeowner reported trespassers on.
Channel 2′s Tony Thomas obtained text messages sent by a Glynn County police officer to Larry English, who owned the construction site where Arbery appeared on surveillance video before he was shot and killed.
The texts instructed English, who lives two hours away from the property, to call Gregory McMichael if any issues came up with people caught trespassing.
“Greg is retired law enforcement and also a retired investigator from the DA’s office,” was the message Officer Robert Rash texted to English on Dec. 20, 2019. Rush also included McMichael’s phone number and conveyed the message that McMichael "said please call him day or night when you get action on your camera.”
I read that. He was concerned about trespassers but said nothing was ever stolen and he certainly didn't think Arbery should have died for it.
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Trespassing of structure is a burglary. That is a felony. So an civilian arrest for a felony can only happen at the immediate time the crime was committed? If you were roaming through houses being constructed and the owner wanted to press charges you wouldn't have a defense in court.
no... no it's not.
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Not trying to argue for the sake of arguing but genuinely interested in the truth. I see a guy in the truck bed and I see a guy standing in the middle of the street. That's when Ahmaud veers to the right, which seems to me in an attempt to avoid the guy standing in the street. Then you see a glimpse of the man with the shotgun walking across the front of the truck presumably to confront the jogger.
Again the jogger veers to the right when he sees the guy with the shotgun standing there in the middle of the street. Then we see the guy with the gun walk over to the other side, the driver's side, to confront the jogger. There is a point where the video veers off and you don't see either of them. We can assume that they met around the front of the truck.
To me, it seems obvious the armed man fully intended to confront the jogger by walking to the other side when he saw the jogger veer to the right to avoid him.
That's how it looks to me. And from what I've read, this was the 2nd attempt they made to cut him off.. he turned around and headed the other way the 1st time. They didn't give up and tried to cut him off again. This time he tried to avoid them by running to the passenger side and Travis attempted to close the distance at which point Arbery made the fatal decision to try and take the weapon from him.
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Our disagreement is based on our different understanding of direction. Running away to me is moving in the opposite direction of a threat. Your definition is running towards, using a truck for cover, then making a hard left directly into the threat.
You may not be aware he had already been confronted moments earlier and had done a 180 only to be cut off again. Since that didn't work he likely decided to try and get past them.
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Trespassing of structure is a burglary. That is a felony. So an civilian arrest for a felony can only happen at the immediate time the crime was committed? If you were roaming through houses being constructed and the owner wanted to press charges you wouldn't have a defense in court.
In this case, the owner doesn't have an issue with folks being on the construction site. The laws regarding trespassing are vague.
In most states criminal trespassing is punishable by a misdemeanor though in some it is considered a felony. Almost without fail the distinction is based on the situation and intent of the trespasser. In almost all cases property owners have greater legal recourse when they’ve met the state’s definition for proper verbal or written notice.
Georgia no trespassing laws are similar to those in many other states. They are detailed in the Georgia Statutes and Codes § 16-7-21 – Criminal trespass. Trespassing is when someone knowingly enters and remains on private property without the proper authorization of the owner or an agent. There is no specific verbiage around posted signage other than violators must have received “notice from the owner’ prior to entry – which if interpreted presumably could mean verbal warning or posted signage. Unlike other states this is unclear.
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Yes, try a few frames later when that guy is on the right of the truck and as soon as he clears the front, he makes a hard left turn and attacks the guy holding the shotgun.
BTW, all the people bringing up the dad and his LE background, he was in the bed of the truck, not doing anything.
Yeah but later, he's who leaked the video.
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There's a section of time between your two screenshots. Slow the video down to .25 speed and take a look. You can clearly see the runner make a hard left across the front of the truck and go after the guy holding the shotgun. This screenshot shows the guy with the shotgun backing up as the runner is coming towards him. The guy with the shotgun doesn't cross the truck to the passenger side. BTW my screenshot was taken just after yours where you can see the guy holding the shotgun is about one step forward towards the front of the truck.
Enhance!
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Enhance!
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I think the wheel blocking the shadow of the black guy is actually the transmission/differential.
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no... no it's not.
Yup, you’re right, but guess it depends on the State:
“A Trespass in Structure or Conveyance is typically charged as a second degree misdemeanor, punishable by up to 60 days in jail. However, if a person is present in the structure where the trespass occurs, then trespass is considered a first degree misdemeanor, punishable by up to 1 year in jail.“
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In this case, the owner doesn't have an issue with folks being on the construction site. The laws regarding trespassing are vague.
In most states criminal trespassing is punishable by a misdemeanor though in some it is considered a felony. Almost without fail the distinction is based on the situation and intent of the trespasser. In almost all cases property owners have greater legal recourse when they’ve met the state’s definition for proper verbal or written notice.
Georgia no trespassing laws are similar to those in many other states. They are detailed in the Georgia Statutes and Codes § 16-7-21 – Criminal trespass. Trespassing is when someone knowingly enters and remains on private property without the proper authorization of the owner or an agent. There is no specific verbiage around posted signage other than violators must have received “notice from the owner’ prior to entry – which if interpreted presumably could mean verbal warning or posted signage. Unlike other states this is unclear.
Why do you keep repeating this lie?
The lib media have backed themselves into a corner with the idiotic jogging narrative. Pray tell who was that young man?
https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/suspect-arbery-shooting-had-offered-help-police/gFMpkRpX0Zk5edjvXrE6sN/
The property, owned by Larry English, had a motion-activated camera system that had picked up unknown people going onto the site, including a young man who started entering at night in late October.
English’s phone received an alert and a text with a video each time the cameras activated. He often called police, sometimes texting videos to officers who went to the neighborhood to check on the property
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I’m seeing people on this thread arguing that the guy didn’t steal anything. If you owned a property and had a problem with trespassers to the point where you installed a surveillance system and you already made calls to the cops, would you leave anything valuable at the site? Would you tell workers not to do so?
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He did not steal anything. There is no evidence that he made any trouble and whether or not he was looking for trouble can only be determined if you can read another person's mind or intention.
Would you feel the same way if the jogger was White and the armed men were Black?
Had it been a 25-year-old white guy with no work history and two prior convictions, one for theft, in a construction site in an area where he didn’t live I would say the guy was there looking for shit to steal.
By the way the only evidence we have that this guy was a jogger is because his mother said so.
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According to his mother, he was an avid jogger. These days almost every serious runner records runs on a Garmin. I wonder if he had one😂. If he did, it would show his routes during his many runs..
The "jogging" narrative was dumb from the beginning. Even if this supposedly-avid-jogger runs in below-knee cargo shorts and "sneakers", he was like 10 miles from home. We are supposed to believe he was doing a 20-miles (at least) out-and-back, and was not even sweaty? We are also supposed to believe he stopped at a residential construction site to "get a drink"? He can't stop at a park or a gas station? You cannot fool getbiggers that easily.
To me it doesn't matter if "Ahmaud" was a dirtbag or not or if he was exercising vs. fleeing from a crime scene, private citizens still shouldn't be allowed to just roll up and confront you with a gun. That's for law enforcement, not redneck vigilantes. But the whole "he was just out jogging and they only pursued him because he's black" narrative is the worst kind of liberal media b.s.
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Use the J-word and the government will take all your gey-azz Nike shooooes.
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Trespassing isn't burglary or remotely close to a felony. However, only the owner can designate someone for a trespassing charge.
Point being is that 2 hillbillies went out and shot this man to death. The investigators also viewed the tape and found the Aubrey was shot in the shoulder before charging at the hillbilly...not that it matters. The hillbillies will be tried, convicted, tarred and feathered....cant wait until the brother's get ahold of him. 😀😀😀😘
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The "jogging" narrative was dumb from the beginning. Even if this supposedly-avid-jogger runs in below-knee cargo shorts and "sneakers", he was like 10 miles from home. We are supposed to believe he was doing a 20-miles (at least) out-and-back, and was not even sweaty? We are also supposed to believe he stopped at a residential construction site to "get a drink"? He can't stop at a park or a gas station? You cannot fool getbiggers that easily.
To me it doesn't matter if "Ahmaud" was a dirtbag or not or if he was exercising vs. fleeing from a crime scene, private citizens still shouldn't be allowed to just roll up and confront you with a gun. That's for law enforcement, not redneck vigilantes. But the whole "he was just out jogging and they only pursued him because he's black" narrative is the worst kind of liberal media b.s.
Thank you sir.
Their entire defense of the "jogger" is a lie. A total bullshit lie.
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Thank you sir.
Their entire defense of the "jogger" is a lie. A total bullshit lie.
I am in a running club and know lots of runners. They theoretically could poke just as many holes in the story as Hulk & I did but they fell for it hook line and sinker and acted as though we lost a member of the “running community”😂. Just goes to show people believe what they wanna believe and or what they’re told to believe..
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I am in a running club and know lots of runners. They theoretically could poke just as many holes in the story as Hulk & I did but they fell for it hook line and sinker and acted as though we lost a member of the “running community”😂. Just goes to show people believe what they wanna believe and or what they’re told to believe..
x2 I do quite a bit of running too (no homo). Not sure how anyone who is seriously into that sport would believe this nonsense.
As I said though, I don't think any of that is terribly relevant here. These two guys will probably go to jail for a long time and they should.
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I think the wheel blocking the shadow of the black guy is actually the transmission/differential.
We've all become forensic experts. Love it. Any day now the Georgia Grand Jury will call one of us to testify.
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Buckwheat went out to steal. Now he's dead. The end.
It's the end for all three of them. Was it worth it for any of them?
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Yup, you’re right, but guess it depends on the State:
“A Trespass in Structure or Conveyance is typically charged as a second degree misdemeanor, punishable by up to 60 days in jail. However, if a person is present in the structure where the trespass occurs, then trespass is considered a first degree misdemeanor, punishable by up to 1 year in jail.“
From what I read, it is advisable to post no trespassing signage. Wonder if it would work for the person who let their dog shit on the middle of my front lawn, about 30 ft. away from the sidewalk. Or the jerk father who lets his 4 or 5 year old kid climb up my rock wall/garden and jump off into his arms.
I haven't put out a sign because I don't want to seem like an uptight ass-wipe. But some people have no respect for others property or concern for their kids safety. And when the kid cracks his head open on the sidewalk, that dad will file a lawsuit against me.
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Trespassing isn't burglary or remotely close to a felony. However, only the owner can designate someone for a trespassing charge.
Point being is that 2 hillbillies went out and shot this man to death. The investigators also viewed the tape and found the Aubrey was shot in the shoulder before charging at the hillbilly...not that it matters. The hillbillies will be tried, convicted, tarred and feathered....cant wait until the brother's get ahold of him. 😀😀😀😘
"the brothers" lol Yeah- those terrible black guys that strike fear in the hearts of the population. Oh brother.
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Trespassing isn't burglary or remotely close to a felony. However, only the owner can designate someone for a trespassing charge.
Point being is that 2 hillbillies went out and shot this man to death. The investigators also viewed the tape and found the Aubrey was shot in the shoulder before charging at the hillbilly...not that it matters. The hillbillies will be tried, convicted, Itarred and feathered....cant wait until the brother's get ahold of him. 😀😀😀😘
You make some valid points. One question, which brothers....the brothers Grimm?
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"the brothers" lol Yeah- those terrible black guys that strike fear in the hearts of the population. Oh brother.
vincent is the king of delusion as you know, this is another example.
makes excuses for blacks all the time, but also calls out dumb *N's* on his channel which brought me here.
very odd fellow this vincent
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vincent is the king of delusion as you know, this is another example.
makes excuses for blacks all the time, but also calls out dumb *N's* on his channel which brought me here.
very odd fellow this vincent
Not saying it because I'm black guy but as a former correctional officer/zookeepers for the gorillas. High profile honkey's vs wild ass monkeys...not a good outcome...they better do this when they get in
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Did the shooter and victim have an altercation a week and a 1/2 before?
https://www.insider.com/travis-gregory-mcmichael-confrontation-ahmaud-arbery-before-death-neighbor-says-2020-5
Twelve days before Ahmaud Arbery was killed, Travis McMichael had a confrontation with him in their Georgia neighborhood, one of their neighbors said.
On February 11, McMichael — who have since been arrested, along with his father, on charges of murdering Arbery — searched a construction site near Brunswick, Georgia, the neighbor, Diego Perez told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Perez, who lives near the site, received a text from the property owner, Larry English, who said a motion-sensor detected movement on the site.
Perez armed himself and walked toward the site, an unfinished house, and found 34-year-old Travis driving up in his truck, he said.
"Travis saw him in the yard and Travis stopped," Perez told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Tuesday. "He confronted [the man] halfway into the yard. He said [the man] reached for his waistband, and Travis got spooked and went down the road."
Perez said he recognized that man as Arbery.
Travis returned with his father, Gregory McMichael, who was also armed, Perez said. Gregory called the police, according to Perez, who recognized the man from older security-camera footage. At that point, Perez said, said he found no evidence of Arbery being around the construction site.
"All we knew about him was that he was the guy who kept showing up on our cameras," Perez said. "No one knew who it was."
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Trespassing isn't burglary or remotely close to a felony. However, only the owner can designate someone for a trespassing charge.
Point being is that 2 hillbillies went out and shot this man to death. The investigators also viewed the tape and found the Aubrey was shot in the shoulder before charging at the hillbilly...not that it matters. The hillbillies will be tried, convicted, tarred and feathered....cant wait until the brother's get ahold of him. 😀😀😀😘
Where did you get this info? Link? It would matter, it would change everything.
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Enhance!
Unfortunately your scene is laid out incorrectly.
I can't understand what is being said on the video, it sounds like someone yells "stop", then the interaction.
Anyone have the dialogue from the exchange?
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Did the shooter and victim have an altercation a week and a 1/2 before?
https://www.insider.com/travis-gregory-mcmichael-confrontation-ahmaud-arbery-before-death-neighbor-says-2020-5
Sounds like the Dindu was a known thief in the area.
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Haven’t paid attention at all to this story other than reading a handful of posts on Getbig. My conclusion is that these 3 idiots will be taken off the streets, so it sounds like a win-win. I can’t believe people are defending Trayvon, Sr. as some model citizen. It’s not like he was ever going to invent the biceps supinator machine or anything.
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Looks like business picked up...She is going to get some poundcake
https://nypost.com/2020/05/18/sister-of-ahmaud-arbery-killer-posted-picture-of-his-body-to-snapchat/?fbclid=IwAR2L5LTJkEuNiAb_QmPXhw8zIbmEodn0ke0sFIYH5cYRXZO_2-inBO7zm6Y
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Where did you get this info? Link? It would matter, it would change everything.
Are you sure it would change everything in you mind? Somehow I think you would find a way to dispute it....not sure why. ::) If you lived in the county in Georgia where this case will be tried, you probably would be one of the first people dismissed from jury duty if you answered the judge's questions honestly. Clearly, you don't have a neutral position on this.
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Are you sure it would change everything in you mind? Somehow I think you would find a way to dispute it....not sure why. ::) If you lived in the county in Georgia where this case will be tried, you probably would be one of the first people dismissed from jury duty if you answered the judge's questions honestly. Clearly, you don't have a neutral position on this.
You're a piss poor judge of character and quite obviously have convicted these guys based on media reports and not facts.
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Where did you get this info? Link? It would matter, it would change everything.
FBI investigators announced it but it doesn't make any difference at this point because they have found a lot more stuff including a video from 2 years ago where Aubrey was tased by the police for no reason whatsoever. A lot of stuff is coming out and it looks like the police dept was running above the law
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FBI investigators announced it but it doesn't make any difference at this point because they have found a lot more stuff including a video from 2 years ago where Aubrey was tased by the police for no reason whatsoever. A lot of stuff is coming out and it looks like the police dept was running above the law
I think it does make a huge difference. If he was shot in the shoulder first then there would be no doubt that he acted in self-defense. I still think it is justified to try to defend himself when confronted by some random guy pointing a gun at him though it probably isn't the smartest thing to do but if he was shot at first then he had little choice but to try and defend himself.
But, you do make a good point, whatever the case may be, whether he was jogging or not these hillbillies had no right to stop him and threaten him with a firearm because they think or believed he was there to steal something. Amhaud could have been a low life scumbag but the fact of the matter is that he didn't steal anything, committed no crime, and didn't deserve to be killed.
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Seems like a fine upstanding passive gentleman, just parking his car in the park, on a hot summers day in his big jacket, to partake in some afternoon rapping.
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Seems like a fine upstanding passive gentleman, just parking his car in the park, on a hot summers day in his big jacket, to partake in some afternoon rapping.
His tux was in the dry cleaners that day.
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Lindsay has defended her brother and father, saying they never “meant to kill anybody” and always “loved” her non-white boyfriends.
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Seems like a fine upstanding passive gentleman, just parking his car in the park, on a hot summers day in his big jacket, to partake in some afternoon rapping.
Most likely bird watching and enjoying mother nature.
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Didn't really see the harassment Vince was talking about in this video. Is there another video?
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Are you sure it would change everything in you mind? Somehow I think you would find a way to dispute it....not sure why. ::) If you lived in the county in Georgia where this case will be tried, you probably would be one of the first people dismissed from jury duty if you answered the judge's questions honestly. Clearly, you don't have a neutral position on this.
Prime - over 90% of these cases, if you actually follow them carefully, review the evidence neutrally, and see them through to the end, are cases of Black men being shot by White people in self-defense.
And WHY focus on this case? Because the shooter was White and the victim was Black! Someone just posted an example of a Black woman who was told she had to wear a mask at the store for COVID, was told not to, and went home to get her husband and son who went back to the store to shoot the White security guard who was just doing his job.
You could have an example like that with the races reversed happening on the SAME DAY, and the Jewish media would only give attention to the one where the Black man was shot.
That's ALL the Jewish media ever does.
Anyway, Stefan Molyneux has been doing great videos on this subject, and both his video commentary/interviews, and the comments in his videos are excellent.
I would highly recommend you go watch them, but you are clearly are a stupid fucking idiot, who is brainwashed by the Jewish media.
Fucking dumb fuck. Try learning something about lie before opening your mouth. Dumb girl.
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You're a piss poor judge of character and quite obviously have convicted these guys based on media reports and not facts.
Facts? You think you know the facts in this case? Well then, carry on.
It's a fact that it is a crime to murder someone because you 'suspect' them of burglary.
Georgia law says you must “reasonably” believe deadly force is “necessary to prevent death or great bodily injury” to you or someone else, or it’s the only way to stop “a forcible felony.” Likewise, according to California law, a person can legally use deadly force in self-defense when they believes they, or someone else, is in imminent danger of being killed or suffering great bodily injury. So no matter whether you go by the laws in your state or in the state where this happened, the law regarding the use of deadly force is the same.
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Facts? You think you know the facts in this case? Well then, carry on.
It's a fact that it is a crime to murder someone because you 'suspect' them of burglary.
Georgia law says you must “reasonably” believe deadly force is “necessary to prevent death or great bodily injury” to you or someone else, or it’s the only way to stop “a forcible felony.” Likewise, according to California law, a person can legally use deadly force in self-defense when they believes they, or someone else, is in imminent danger of being killed or suffering great bodily injury. So no matter whether you go by the laws in your state or in the state where this happened, the law regarding the use of deadly force is the same.
Was he sexual ?
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You're a piss poor judge of character and quite obviously have convicted these guys based on media reports and not facts.
What "facts" should change anyone's opinion? Arbery's reputation is irrelevant here and you yourself said that the two white guys were out looking for trouble several times. The only "facts" I've seen to the contrary in this thread is speculation based being able to read Arbery's mind. So what are the "facts" that are being overlooked?
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Prime - over 90% of these cases, if you actually follow them carefully, review the evidence neutrally, and see them through to the end, are cases of Black men being shot by White people in self-defense.
And WHY focus on this case? Because the shooter was White and the victim was Black! Someone just posted an example of a Black woman who was told she had to wear a mask at the store for COVID, was told not to, and went home to get her husband and son who went back to the store to shoot the White security guard who was just doing his job.
You could have an example like that with the races reversed happening on the SAME DAY, and the Jewish media would only give attention to the one where the Black man was shot.
The security guard in that case was black.
And these aren't cases of self-defense. They become news because they are confrontations started by armed individuals where the factor of innocence is basically a legal technicality.
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Another video of him after shoplifting from Walmart
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Ah yes! The calves and leg muscularity of a true jogging enthusiast.
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Another video of him after shoplifting from Walmart
So what?? Its not relevant to the murder investigation. Just a way to muddy up the jury
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Another video of him after shoplifting from Walmart
He was actually jogging in Walmart and using the television for extra resistance.💪
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The security guard in that case was black.
And these aren't cases of self-defense. They become news because they are confrontations started by armed individuals where the factor of innocence is basically a legal technicality.
In Matt's mind, that is a mere technicality that should be ignored because it doesn't jive with his beliefs.
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Prime - over 90% of these cases, if you actually follow them carefully, review the evidence neutrally, and see them through to the end, are cases of Black men being shot by White people in self-defense.
And WHY focus on this case? Because the shooter was White and the victim was Black! Someone just posted an example of a Black woman who was told she had to wear a mask at the store for COVID, was told not to, and went home to get her husband and son who went back to the store to shoot the White security guard who was just doing his job.
You could have an example like that with the races reversed happening on the SAME DAY, and the Jewish media would only give attention to the one where the Black man was shot.
That's ALL the Jewish media ever does.
Anyway, Stefan Molyneux has been doing great videos on this subject, and both his video commentary/interviews, and the comments in his videos are excellent.
I would highly recommend you go watch them, but you are clearly are a stupid fucking idiot, who is brainwashed by the Jewish media.
Fucking dumb fuck. Try learning something about lie before opening your mouth. Dumb girl.
Matt, cut out this Anti Semitic shit....worse than the stuff you say about blacks. Seriously, what the fuck is your problem with Jews???
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Ah yes! The calves and leg muscularity of a true jogging enthusiast.
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Facts? You think you know the facts in this case? Well then, carry on.
I don't, that's why I have an open mind and am asking questions, not blaming one or the other.
What "facts" should change anyone's opinion? Arbery's reputation is irrelevant here and you yourself said that the two white guys were out looking for trouble several times. The only "facts" I've seen to the contrary in this thread is speculation based being able to read Arbery's mind. So what are the "facts" that are being overlooked?
What happened at the front of the truck when Arbery turned and crossed it? His reputation is irrelevant, but his actions are not. If it's found that he crossed the truck and attacked the guy with the gun, then he created the situation where the two men were fighting for their lives. If the guy with the gun fired like Vince says, then Arbery was defending himself and it's murder. The defense attorney will play on those few frames of footage and look to get those guys set free, while the prosecution will push the narrative that those guys were intent on killing him. It all comes down to which attorney brings the most compelling argument.
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I don't know why that Goodrum dude is taking the side he's taking because, well, frankly I'm blacker than him
I mean- he makes Brian Gumble look like flavor flav
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I don't, that's why I have an open mind and am asking questions, not blaming one or the other.
What happened at the front of the truck when Arbery turned and crossed it? His reputation is irrelevant, but his actions are not. If it's found that he crossed the truck and attacked the guy with the gun, then he created the situation where the two men were fighting for their lives. If the guy with the gun fired like Vince says, then Arbery was defending himself and it's murder. The defense attorney will play on those few frames of footage and look to get those guys set free, while the prosecution will push the narrative that those guys were intent on killing him. It all comes down to which attorney brings the most compelling argument.
You could have fooled me. It seems more like you have made up your mind. But since I am not inside your head, I could be all wet about this. One thing I completely agree with you on is that it will come down to which attorney has the most compelling argument.
Maybe it is just par for the course in Georgia that folks walk around carrying shotguns and handguns. Did Ahmaud Arbery fear for his life while being chased for 4 minutes before he was confronted with Travis McMichael holding a shotgun? We will never know because Arbery can't say....he died after being shot with that shotgun three times.
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kid always seemed to find trouble
eventually led to his death
sounds about right
play stupid games
win
stupid
prizes
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You could have fooled me. It seems more like you have made up your mind. But since I am not inside your head, I could be all wet about this. One thing I completely agree with you on is that it will come down to which attorney has the most compelling argument.
Maybe it is just par for the course in Georgia that folks walk around carrying shotguns and handguns. Did Ahmaud Arbery fear for his life while being chased for 4 minutes before he was confronted with Travis McMichael holding a shotgun? We will never know because Arbery can't say....he died after being shot with that shotgun three times.
so what did you think of the 2 videos?
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The security guard in that case was black.
And these aren't cases of self-defense. They become news because they are confrontations started by armed individuals where the factor of innocence is basically a legal technicality.
Whoops, my bad. Thank you for the clarification, Al Doggity. See - I change my position when exposed to new information.
I know you find it offensive that I think Black men are 7-10+ times more likely to commit robbery, rape, or murder, but the reason why I think this is...
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BECAUSE IT'S A FACT.
Fuck.
And Whites commit more of the above than Asians. Does that make me anti-White?
Black men have bigger cocks than White and Asian men do, on average. Does that make me a Black Supremacist?
OR MAYBE I JUST ACKNOWLEDGE FACTS FOR WHAT THEY ARE FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
I feel like I'm living in La La Land some days.
Anyway, as I said, I didn't know that the security guard was Black. Either way, it's sad. But it being a Black-on-Black shooting/murder [? Not sure if he died, but I seem to recall that] is the reason why the Jewish media didn't speak much of it.
Because nobody gives a fuck when a Black person dies if the perpetrator is Black.
Which is 93% of the time.
But hey, who gives a fuck about THOSE Black lives. THOSE #BlackLivesDon'tMatter.
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Fucking dumb fuck. Try learning something about lie before opening your mouth. Dumb girl.
Calm down Nancy.
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If it's found that he crossed the truck and attacked the guy with the gun, then he created the situation where the two men were fighting for their lives.
C'mon man you know better , I though you were from the streets ,If you pull a gun on someone, you are creating the situation , if someone pull a gun on me I would assume he is going to use it (kill me ) I would do whatever is necessary to survive.
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He was actually jogging in Walmart and using the television for extra resistance.💪
LOL!!!!!!!!!
OH man, and to think prior to a night of a blizzard here in Thunder Bay, Canada in April of 2007 when an Ironage Getbigger [woten] took the time to explain to me the absolute and total lies and bullshit of the media, its ethnic character, and its absolute backwards view on race, I used to think Black males like Ahmaud Arbery were victims, haha.
I love how, thanks to the internet, these horseshit anti-White narratives collapse in literally the span of an afternoon, hahahaha.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!
OH man, and to think prior to a night of a blizzard here in Thunder Bay, Canada in April of 2007 when an Ironage Getbigger [woten] took the time to explain to me the absolute and total lies and bullshit of the media, its ethnic character, and its absolute backwards view on race, I used to think Black males like Ahmaud Arbery were victims, haha.
I love how, thanks to the internet, these horseshit anti-White narratives collapse in literally the span of an afternoon, hahahaha.
Nig(http://)g
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C'mon man you know better , I though you were from the streets ,If you pull a gun on someone, you are creating the situation , if someone pull a gun on me I would assume he is going to use it (kill me ) I would do whatever is necessary to survive.
If two Black guys pulled a gun on me, I would assume that - because young Black males are 3.5% of the American population, yet are statistically responsible for 56% of all gun violence in the USA, year after year.
And if I was a low IQ Black male criminal, constantly being told White police officers hunt them for sport [reality - if a White police officer even SNEEZES on a Black man, he will be fired from the force, and defamed on CNN and all the other Jewish-owned media networks 24/7 for the next 3-5 months or so], I would probably be scared of being shot too.
Although even though young Black males commit more gun violence THAN THE REST OF THE FUCKING AMERICAN POPULATION OF ALL AGES AND RACIAL GROUPS COMBINED, FOR FUCK'S SAKE, I *still* wouldn't automatically assume two Black men pulling up to me with guns were about to shoot me, if I was just walking down the street.
Why?
Because despite the ASTRONOMICAL greater statistical likelihood of a gun crime perpetrator being Black, the reality is:
[1] Most acts of gun violence are INTRA-RACIAL [where both the victim and the perp share a race - 93% of Black gun deaths are Black-on-Black, and 86% of White gun deaths are White-on-White], and,
[2] Most acts of gun violence are by people KNOWN to one another.
In other words, random acts of gun violence are still a minority of the total.
As was said above in this thread:
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
So no, I wouldn't assume I was about to be shot by anyone of any race, even young Black males, who are far more likely to shoot me randomly than anyone of any other race.
But with media constantly POUNDING INTO THE HEADS OF BLACK MEN THAT WHITE PEOPLE - POLICE ESPECIALLY - hunt them for sport, we shouldn't be shocked that some Black males [given their average IQ is 85] are more likely to think this.
Let alone Black men with a rap sheet a mile long, who just cased out a house, and is being stopped by a police officer who recognizes him from a weapons charge.
HAHAHAHA, I'm laughing while I type this.
You just can't make this shit up.
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Nig(http://)g
Yes. Thankfully.
All I know is what I read from the FBI crime stats, DOJ stats, etc.
It doesn't take a genius to notice a trend when a group of people who comprise 3.5% of the population commit more robbery, assault, rape, and murder than the other 96.5% of the population of all other age and racial demographics combined.
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kid always seemed to find trouble
eventually led to his death
sounds about right
play stupid games
win
stupid
prizes
This is true for most of the black urban youth in america, they step out looking for trouble and then claim dey dindu nuffin!
This guy was no different. A far cry from the "bow-tie wearing honor student" as claimed by the media.
(https://i.imgur.com/9ZVXUqI.jpg)
(https://images3.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED840/5ebc6a67ea823.jpeg)
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there is nothing sadder than a "Race Realist".....
1) you actually are dumb enough to trust stats compiled by (((them)))
2) wouldn't you want to be adventurous and actually get to know a person first and then judge them?...
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So what?? Its not relevant to the murder investigation. Just a way to muddy up the jury
that video is very very relevant, it means he was not jogging, lol. but all blacks will stick up for all guilty blacks, thats a fact!
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again, im not saying that all blacks are criminals. I am saying this kid was NOT jogging, he was up to no good!! BUT HE DID NOT DESERVE TO DIE, especially in the hands of civilians
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he should have been kicked out of the neighborhood, not gunned down. These 2 guys will go to jail for murder, as they should, I don't have a problem with that, but that kid was not joggin
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again, im not saying that all blacks are criminals.
settle down, Grand Wizard
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he should have been kicked out of the neighborhood, not gunned down. These 2 guys will go to jail for murder, as they should, I don't have a problem with that, but that kid was not joggin
Just watched the video again. He seems to run around the pickup and lunge towards the man with the shotgun, trying to pry it from the man's hands until he get's shot multiple times in CQ.
Someone else in his position could have easily stopped jogging and stopped acting like a threat seeing two armed men in a pickup in the middle of the road.
Why would you try to grab a gun out of the hands of an armed civilian?....that's a deathwish.
Doesn't make sense.
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C'mon man you know better , I though you were from the streets ,If you pull a gun on someone, you are creating the situation , if someone pull a gun on me I would assume he is going to use it (kill me ) I would do whatever is necessary to survive.
Huge difference between "pulling a gun on someone" and having a gun. As far as I can see, he doesn't shoulder the shotgun and aim at Arbery.
Now flip it, if you're jogging down the street and you see two guys with guns in the street in front of you, do you continue towards them and try to jog around them? Do you lunge across the front of the truck and try to wrestle the gun away? He was far enough away from them to change course. Or do you turn around and head the opposite direction? Do you pull your cell phone and record them? Do you stop jogging and try to communicate from a distance? There are a ton of ways this scenario could have played out differently. In the end, from what I see, I believe these guys will not be convicted of murder, maybe a lesser charge.
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Huge difference between "pulling a gun on someone" and having a gun. As far as I can see, he doesn't shoulder the shotgun and aim at Arbery.
Now flip it, if you're jogging down the street and you see two guys with guns in the street in front of you, do you continue towards them and try to jog around them? Do you lunge across the front of the truck and try to wrestle the gun away? He was far enough away from them to change course. Or do you turn around and head the opposite direction? Do you pull your cell phone and record them? Do you stop jogging and try to communicate from a distance? There are a ton of ways this scenario could have played out differently. In the end, from what I see, I believe these guys will not be convicted of murder, maybe a lesser charge.
you can't reason with someone that pulls the race card, their minds were made up way before this incident occured
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this makes me emphasize with Donald Trump and his views on CNN, you just can't reason with some people, stats or no stats
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so what did you think of the 2 videos?
E
Unless I am mistaken, most of one of the videos has disappeared from mainstream internet...at least the part where there's some manner of confrontation and shots are fired. I am not sure what the other one you mention is. Are you talking about the one where Ahmaud is walking around the house under construction?
Regardless, people see what they want to see even when confronted with an indisputable video, which this one is not. Those who think Ahmaud instigated the shooting are not going to change their minds and those (like me) who question why the father and son yahoos took it upon themselves to pursue this fellow, see the whole event differently.
I could probably watch the video of the actual shooting until I turned blue and not know exactly what happened. Based on the one time I saw it supposedly unedited, Too much was going on out of camera range for me to know exactly what happened between Ahmaud and his killer.
My philosophy in a nutshell is that if someone threatens my life or the life of someone I love, I will do whatever it takes to make that not happen, including shooting them if I owned a gun (which I do not). When someone steals my personal property or I see them stealing someone else's shit, even when I only suspect that's what they are doing, I'll be on the phone calling 911 and writing down or videotaping as much as I can about the crime. What I know for sure is that no material property I have or anyone else has is worth someone's life. And, I don't give a fat fuck whether the players are black, yellow, brown, red or white.
I wrote this before. If the race of the people involved in this horrendous incident were reversed, would you come to the same conclusions? When you can answer this honestly, this who did what discussion might be about the truth and not about our prejudices.
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the videos on page 12 and 13 where he is getting arrested
you would think nothing of that guy "jogging" in your upper middle class oregon neighborhood?
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Whoops, my bad. Thank you for the clarification, Al Doggity. See - I change my position when exposed to new information.
What position did you change based on new information? Do you now think that race isn't the only factor that determines what crimes get news coverage? ??? Your post makes it sound like you're keeping exactly the same position despite new information.
I never understand white guys who are convinced that anything that doesn't align with their limited world view is because of the jewish cabal conspiring to destabilize the western world. ::)
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I don't, that's why I have an open mind and am asking questions, not blaming one or the other.
What happened at the front of the truck when Arbery turned and crossed it? His reputation is irrelevant, but his actions are not. If it's found that he crossed the truck and attacked the guy with the gun, then he created the situation where the two men were fighting for their lives. If the guy with the gun fired like Vince says, then Arbery was defending himself and it's murder. The defense attorney will play on those few frames of footage and look to get those guys set free, while the prosecution will push the narrative that those guys were intent on killing him. It all comes down to which attorney brings the most compelling argument.
And those aren't facts. You blasted the other poster for being told what to think by the media, yet you're basically saying he should wait to be told what to think by lawyers based on indecipherable video.
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And those aren't facts. You blasted the other poster for being told what to think by the media, yet you're basically saying he should wait to be told what to think by lawyers based on indecipherable video.
Which part of my post are disputing as not being factual ??? Anyone can form their own opinion with any amount of information they choose. The media or lawyers don't have to convince me, I won't be the judge or jury.
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the videos on page 12 and 13 where he is getting arrested
you would think nothing of that guy "jogging" in your upper middle class oregon neighborhood?
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It would be very suspicious. I would call the cops to check it out as I've done in the past. The police would have the authority to stop and question him as well as run a check on him to see if he has any priors. Being LE, Ahmaud would be less likely to be confrontational and violent then if it were some civilian. I certainly wouldn't arm myself and block him off.
I always find it interesting how two people can look at the same exact situation and come to completely, and often diametrically opposed, viewpoints. To me, it seems obvious that the White guys initiated the confrontation just by being there blocking his way. It wasn't some random meeting. The two guys intended to confront him and went out of their way to do so. I have no doubt they will both do some time.
Now that we know, after the killing, the background of Ahmaud it is not a stretch to say that he was no model citizen and I believe he was up to no good. He was staking out the neighborhood looking to steal something. But I'm just speculating based on personal bias and prejudice. There is also a big difference in thinking about stealing and actual stealing. I don't see where he committed any crime. He certainly didn't deserve to be killed. To some here he's just another worthless nig and the world is a better place without him, but he had a mother, sister, relatives and friends and they will have to live with the memory of two guys with guns taking it upon themselves to be judge and executioner.
To you he's just another thug and gangsta, but not to everyone.
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This is one of my nephews, Roy, on the right. He was such a fun, cheerful, energetic kid that I adored. He loved rough and tumble stuff and we would wrestle all the time. He was tough and competitive and would become quite an athlete and wrestler in school. His father killed himself when Roy was 8 years old. He had a lot of issues and pent up anger. Although he certainly wasn't an angel and got into more than his fair share of trouble, he never physically hurt or assaulted anybody in the commission of a crime. His scraps were always "in house" affairs within his own narrow world. But I never saw this side of him. When he was with family he was just Roy, always joking around, laughing, and having a good time. Treated his mom like a queen. He was different when he was at home around people that loved and cared for him and whom he could trust. Not so much out in the real world.
Anyway, he's changed a lot since his thug days and has turned his life around.
There's often more to a person than what you see under specific circumstances.
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What position did you change based on new information? Do you now think that race isn't the only factor that determines what crimes get news coverage? ??? Your post makes it sound like you're keeping exactly the same position despite new information.
I thought the security guy shot was White, making it a Black-on-White crime.
You informed me that the security guard was Black, making it a Black-on-Black crime.
Now that I have new information, I have adjusted my view on the facts of that case, until I get further information.
That being said, it's not like I was confidently going around asserting "A WHITE SECURITY GUARD WAS SHOT BY A BLACK MAN [and/or his son] AND THE MEDIA IS SAYING NOTHING ABOUT IT."
I simply thought it was a Black-on-White crime, and now realize, as per you correcting me, that it was a Black-on-Black crime.
Either way - both are insignificant in terms of Jewish media coverage.
I never understand white guys who are convinced that anything that doesn't align with their limited world view is because of the jewish cabal conspiring to destabilize the western world. ::)
Yeah, but you believe there's some conspiracy where White police officers go around hunting Black men for sport, when in reality, Black men are something like 19 times more likely to shoot a White cop than the reverse, and virtually all of these cases, when broken down, are more or less horseshit.
Jews don't "control the world" or whatever. I'm not saying that, and most people who have spent years studying the behaviour of Jews and their impact on Western civilization wouldn't say that.
I suppose the best way I can summarize it is that Jews are a group of people who are extremely intelligent.
That's basically it.
Naturally, an out-group of extremely high IQ people are who consistently do things to benefit their own in-group are going to do things that are contrary to other in-groups. Why WOULDN'T this be the case?
When you and other POC/leftists moan on about the White "oppressing" you and being evil [meanwhile, American Blacks are doing better than Africans literally anywhere else on the planet, in terms of quality of life, access to education, access to healthcare, lifespan, etc], how on earth is that any different than me talking about how the Jewish impact/influence on Western society is somehow less than perfect?
What exactly are YOU suggesting, Al Doggity? Are you saying that White societies are somehow improving thanks to racial diversity / multiculturalism?
If so, LOL.
Please.
Point me to any formally White-majority society which:
[1] Increased its non-White population.
[2] Improved after increasing its non-White population, and,
[3] CORRELATE the increase in the non-White population of that White-majority society with the alleged improvements you claim it made.
I would LOVE to see you show me how Canada, for example, has somehow become a better/safer place to live since going from 86% White in 2001, to 74% White now in 2020, or whatever it is.
Especially given that Toronto now has a higher murder rate than NEW YORK CITY.
But please, I'd love to hear you school me here, if you don't mind.
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This is one of my nephews, Roy, on the right. He was such a fun, cheerful, energetic kid that I adored. He loved rough and tumble stuff and we would wrestle all the time. He was tough and competitive and would become quite an athlete and wrestler in school. His father killed himself when Roy was 8 years old. He had a lot of issues and pent up anger. Although he certainly wasn't an angel and got into more than his fair share of trouble, he never physically hurt or assaulted anybody in the commission of a crime. His scraps were always "in house" affairs within his own narrow world. But I never saw this side of him. When he was with family he was just Roy, always joking around, laughing, and having a good time. Treated his mom like a queen. He was different when he was at home around people that loved and cared for him and whom he could trust. Not so much out in the real world.
Anyway, he's changed a lot since his thug days and has turned his life around.
There's often more to a person than what you see under specific circumstances.
Dayum, looks-wise Roy could be my younger brother.
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double standard by the media for sure
there was hardly an outrage at the 4 blacks who tortured a white disabled kid some time back
they even dropped the 'hate crime' charge
not so if other way around
if you are black and dont agree theres a double-standard, you have mental issues.
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Ok lets try this again. Here is what happened. This dindu was not jogging. He had been in the neighborhood many times before and has stolen things. The owner of property had cameras and had asked the other guys who you racists refer to as "rednecks or hillbillies or goober etc". So they were told rufus was in the building. They went to see another person DID call the cops. The cops were on their way. These 2 good guys went to make sure tyrone didnt get away. They were trying to hold him until cops came. Then the dindu heard the sirens and took off "jogging" The guys had told him to stop they wanted to talk to him but he kept on going cuz he knew he was gonna be arrested. They passed him stopped truck and ONE guy and ONLY one guy got out to confront him. But leroy kept running. He thought he could actually win in a fight. smh. ( shows the stupidity of the sub species)
The guy was filming this whole thing so they would have proof and to show the cops when they finally got there. We all know it takes some time for cops to show up .Thats why the hebrew was runing to his car to get away. he didnt steal anything this time because there wasnt anything to take. He had been there before. He had stolen from there before. So yes . He caused his own death. he could of turned and ran the other way especially if he was "just out jogging". Why risk getting shot if you were just "jogging" ? the knnee grow knew he had to get away and took his chances. He lost. Now 2 very good humans will be sent to prison because if they dont then the blacks will riot . Oops i mean "protest". Thats what they do and society doesnt want to "anger "them so they give in to them. Its so stupid. Ever notice that no matter what the african does they other members of his tribe always stick up for him. ( and a bunch of brainwashed whites do too) And if they win the jungle dwellers always say the voting was perfect but if they lose its always "racist". Doesnt it ever occur to them that maybe they just were not good enough? The ghettos dwellers are the most racist so called humans ever. We all need to start standing up to them and doing the right thing. But our laws wont allow it. smh.
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love how the brain dead media keep embarrassing themselves with the smiling tuxedo picture of said negro
oh yes, he was such a great scholar and professor
should he be dead? of course not
did he contribute to this, of course he did
not too bright that race of people
IQ stats
are the white guys not too bright? apparently so
overdone in the press so much it isnt even worth anything these days, except to get blacks a chance to lash out and riot, etc
what they do best
million man march - not one person missed work that day
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that video is very very relevant, it means he was not jogging, lol. but all blacks will stick up for all guilty blacks, thats a fact!
Running down the fucking road isnt a crime...would have only been relevant if he was shot stealing a TV and even that isnt legal. Stop defending these hillbillies
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double standard by the media for sure
there was hardly an outrage at the 4 blacks who tortured a white disabled kid some time back
they even dropped the 'hate crime' charge
not so if other way around
if you are black and dont agree theres a double-standard, you have mental issues.
What the hell are you talking about?? It was all over the news for days...🙄
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Running down the fucking road isnt a crime...would have only been relevant if he was shot stealing a TV and even that isnt legal. Stop defending these hillbillies
I haven’t defended them. What I’m attacking is the bullshit narrative being presented by the media. Another piece of crap that they tried to sell us is that this guy was an electrician apprentice. When in reality he went to community college to study electricity for about a half a year then dropped out.
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Ok i have to chime in. Im tired of everyone standing up and protecting this known criminal. He was there to steal. period. they have him on camera in other peoples homes. Things have been stolen he was on camera he didnt live in the neighborhood. He went in there to see what he could steal. He was hoping for some tools radios etc. There wasnt anything so he left. If there would of been something he would of taken it. He was caught so he took off running He was not out for a jog. The white guys did not chase him down and shoot him. They wanted to talk to him but he wouldnt stop. He knew he was violating his probation and would go back to jail. He has a criminal history. He attacked them. He could of ran the other way. he could of ran thru yards. But he chose to get violent. He would not of been accidently shot if he would of stopped and talked. The police were called. they were on their way. If you lived in a good neighborhood and suddenly peoples homes were broken into and you seen the person and he was trying to get away what would you do? most real men and real americans would try to keep them there until police showed up. thats whatthey did. only rufus attacked them first now these poor guys will go to prison because if they dont then the dindues will destroy and loot and vandalize. oops i mean protest. and anyone who doesnt see it this way is just wrong. blinded by the media and how they always portray blacks and innocent victims and whites as racist. the fact is blacks are violent racists criminals from the get go. we as whites need to start standing up to them. we used to be able to but now the laws say we are guilty of crimes if we do. so to those that are defending this piece of low life criminal violent piece of shit i hope one of these kneegulls rape your daughter or wife and then lets see how understanding you are!!
Yes this.
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I haven’t defended them. What I’m attacking is the bullshit narrative being presented by the media. Another piece of crap that they tried to sell us is that this guy was an electrician apprentice. When in reality he went to community college to study electricity for about a half a year then dropped out.
That's what the media do. I knew that when they showed a picture of him in a tux and bowtie from high school. Doesnt change the end game
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Those who knew Arbery said the former high school football player often jogged through the neighborhoods southwest of Brunswick.
"I just want people to know that he was a very good young man and he loved the people and I just want people to remember him as a good-hearted young man," his father, Marcus Arbery Sr., said Friday on what would have been his son's 26th birthday. "To see him just get lynched like that by a racial mob is devastating to our family."
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another delusional "we dindu nuffin".
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double standard by the media for sure
there was hardly an outrage at the 4 blacks who tortured a white disabled kid some time back
they even dropped the 'hate crime' charge
not so if other way around
if you are black and dont agree theres a double-standard, you have mental issues.
yes and no, when they found these 4 nignogs they were promptly arrested. Part of the outrage is that these 2 guys were allowed go on their merry way as if nothing happened
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Okay...in an attempt to begin to even out the “black man” crime statistics, I’m going to openly admit to committing a “white girl” crime.
I put on very very short shorts, then stand in front of a full length mirror and take photos of me wearing some old pair of dress shoes from my waist down.
Then I put the shoes for sale on OfferUp and use my 36-inch inseam bare legged photos to sell the shoes.
A few days ago a schmoe from Canyon Lake, Texas bought my old, used black leather pumps for $880.00.
I feel SO guilty. 😆
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the videos on page 12 and 13 where he is getting arrested
you would think nothing of that guy "jogging" in your upper middle class oregon neighborhood?
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What do either of those two videos have to do with his being shot and killed?
Right. I would think nothing of it. Why would I?
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What do either of those two videos have to do with his being shot and killed?
Right. I would think nothing of it. Why would I?
he seems like a good guy to you? you would give him the benefit of the doubt if you saw him walking around houses under construction?
nothing seems off about him to you? why would you think nothing of him?
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he seems like a good guy to you? you would give him the benefit of the doubt if you saw him walking around houses under construction?
nothing seems off about him to you? why would you think nothing of him?
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In the cop videos, he seems like a fellow with anger issues. If I saw someone walking around a house under construction, why would I have reason to doubt them or know there was anything off about them? I would think nothing of him because I wouldn't know him.
If you saw a white fellow jogging down the street or walking though a house under construction, would you think there was something off about them? If you saw a black fellow doing those same things, why would you think any differently about it?
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Okay...in an attempt to begin to even out the “black man” crime statistics, I’m going to openly admit to committing a “white girl” crime.
I put on very very short shorts, then stand in front of a full length mirror and take photos of me wearing some old pair of dress shoes from my waist down.
Then I put the shoes for sale on OfferUp and use my 36-inch inseam bare legged photos to sell the shoes.
A few days ago a schmoe from Canyon Lake, Texas bought my old, used black leather pumps for $880.00.
I feel SO guilty. 😆
Where are those pics? :P
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In the cop videos, he seems like a fellow with anger issues. If I saw someone walking around a house under construction, why would I have reason to doubt them or know there was anything off about them? I would think nothing of him because I wouldn't know him.
If you saw a white fellow jogging down the street or walking though a house under construction, would you think there was something off about them? If you saw a black fellow doing those same things, why would you think any differently about it?
he wasn't jogging, let that go already ::)
you saw the video he is clearly a very shady person to say the least, who the hell wears a winter jacket with no shirt? why can't he give his actual age? why is his license suspended? why would anybody trust him?
if you would think nothing of him in your upper middle class oregon neighborhood, well that would make you a perfect target for them
why would i think differently? i have a head that i don't keep buried in the sand
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Ok lets try this again. Here is what happened. This dindu was not jogging. He had been in the neighborhood many times before and has stolen things. The owner of property had cameras and had asked the other guys who you racists refer to as "rednecks or hillbillies or goober etc". So they were told rufus was in the building. They went to see another person DID call the cops. The cops were on their way. These 2 good guys went to make sure tyrone didnt get away. They were trying to hold him until cops came. Then the dindu heard the sirens and took off "jogging" The guys had told him to stop they wanted to talk to him but he kept on going cuz he knew he was gonna be arrested. They passed him stopped truck and ONE guy and ONLY one guy got out to confront him. But leroy kept running. He thought he could actually win in a fight. smh. ( shows the stupidity of the sub species)
The guy was filming this whole thing so they would have proof and to show the cops when they finally got there. We all know it takes some time for cops to show up .Thats why the hebrew was runing to his car to get away. he didnt steal anything this time because there wasnt anything to take. He had been there before. He had stolen from there before. So yes . He caused his own death. he could of turned and ran the other way especially if he was "just out jogging". Why risk getting shot if you were just "jogging" ? the knnee grow knew he had to get away and took his chances. He lost. Now 2 very good humans will be sent to prison because if they dont then the blacks will riot . Oops i mean "protest". Thats what they do and society doesnt want to "anger "them so they give in to them. Its so stupid. Ever notice that no matter what the african does they other members of his tribe always stick up for him. ( and a bunch of brainwashed whites do too) And if they win the jungle dwellers always say the voting was perfect but if they lose its always "racist". Doesnt it ever occur to them that maybe they just were not good enough? The ghettos dwellers are the most racist so called humans ever. We all need to start standing up to them and doing the right thing. But our laws wont allow it. smh.
Wait. How do you know that he has stolen things in the neighborhood and how do you know Ahmaud heard the sirens and started running?
These would be very pertinent to the case and would have been brought up.
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Okay...in an attempt to begin to even out the “black man” crime statistics, I’m going to openly admit to committing a “white girl” crime.
I put on very very short shorts, then stand in front of a full length mirror and take photos of me wearing some old pair of dress shoes from my waist down.
Then I put the shoes for sale on OfferUp and use my 36-inch inseam bare legged photos to sell the shoes.
A few days ago a schmoe from Canyon Lake, Texas bought my old, used black leather pumps for $880.00.
I feel SO guilty. 😆
Don't feel guilty. It was worth every penny. Thank you.
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he seems like a good guy to you? you would give him the benefit of the doubt if you saw him walking around houses under construction?
nothing seems off about him to you? why would you think nothing of him?
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He does not seem like a good guy to me. It was very suspicious that he was snooping around in that neighborhood. I would have called the cops. He wasn't caught committing any crime. It doesn't justify confronting him with shotguns.
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he wasn't jogging, let that go already ::)
you saw the video he is clearly a very shady person to say the least, who the hell wears a winter jacket with no shirt? why can't he give his actual age? why is his license suspended? why would anybody trust him?
if you would think nothing of him in your upper middle class oregon neighborhood, well that would make you a perfect target for them
why would i think differently? i have a head that i don't keep buried in the sand
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So, just to be clear, you feel it was justified to kill him?
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Okay...in an attempt to begin to even out the “black man” crime statistics, I’m going to openly admit to committing a “white girl” crime.
I put on very very short shorts, then stand in front of a full length mirror and take photos of me wearing some old pair of dress shoes from my waist down.
Then I put the shoes for sale on OfferUp and use my 36-inch inseam bare legged photos to sell the shoes.
A few days ago a schmoe from Canyon Lake, Texas bought my old, used black leather pumps for $880.00.
I feel SO guilty. 😆
Dude you are not a girl, stop pretending to be one, its embarrassing lady mcCormick
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Don't feel guilty. It was worth every penny. Thank you.
LOL.
You live in Hawaii. Or maybe you have a re-shipper ?
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Dude you are not a girl, stop pretending to be one, its embarrassing lady mcCormick
I’ve posted my photo twice.
Once with a sign and once with an upside down coffee cup.
Is your son embarrassed that his dad has chronic cockbreath ?
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I’ve posted a female photo of what i wish to look like, twice.
Once with a sign and once with an upside down coffee cup.
Im desperate to have cockbreath again?
FIXED ;D
PS no girl talks like that, nice try though
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In the cop videos, he seems like a fellow with anger issues. If I saw someone walking around a house under construction, why would I have reason to doubt them or know there was anything off about them? I would think nothing of him because I wouldn't know him.
If you saw a white fellow jogging down the street or walking though a house under construction, would you think there was something off about them? If you saw a black fellow doing those same things, why would you think any differently about it?
Prime, Baby Doll, Sweetheart... He was never jogging. Never. He was running away from a "crime scene". Using the word "jogger" or "jogging" is just comical. Just say he was an astronaut doing astronaut things.
Stay heathy my friend.
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Prime, Baby Doll, Sweetheart...
Stay heathy my friend.
Hard to do at his advanced age.
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LOL.
You live in Hawaii. Or maybe you have a re-shipper ?
I have to cover my tracks. I've made some enemies in life.
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Dude you are not a girl, stop pretending to be one, its embarrassing lady mcCormick
One thing that is rampant on this board is people making claims without any proof or evidence. And, even more bewildering, making claims that have been proven wrong.
JPJ is all woman. FACT. Henda, Chaos, and possibly more, can confirm this.
What is your proof?
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FIXED ;D
PS no girl talks like that, nice try though
You obviously don't know "girls" very well.
I understand.
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Prime, Baby Doll, Sweetheart... He was never jogging. Never. He was running away from a "crime scene". Using the word "jogger" or "jogging" is just comical. Just say he was an astronaut doing astronaut things.
Stay heathy my friend.
I think most of us overwhelmingly agree that he was not out jogging. But what crime scene was he fleeing? What crime did he commit?
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So, just to be clear, you feel it was justified to kill him?
probably not though it's probably for the best which is why the national outrage is so ridiculous
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I have to cover my tracks. I've made some enemies in life.
Be careful or that homeless Quarter Pounder guy is going to break in and steal my size 10 black pumps you paid all that money for !
L-O-L
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One thing that is rampant on this board is people making claims without any proof or evidence. And, even more bewildering, making claims that have been proven wrong.
JPJ is all woman. FACT. Henda, Chaos, and possibly more, can confirm this.
What is your proof?
I sent Henda pics.
And $50.00 a month for hand lotion.
He’s a very funny guy.
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One thing that is rampant on this board is people making claims without any proof or evidence. And, even more bewildering, making claims that have been proven wrong.
JPJ is all woman. FACT. Henda, Chaos, and possibly more, can confirm this.
What is your proof?
common sense, but you are too old to understand, like having a thug tatted nephew thats commited "NO crime". old man STFU
just like most of the media, fake news
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The MSM created this discussion. If so inclined, they could have just as easily flipped the script and made these videos, story #1, and incited non-blacks into violence against blacks.
These aren't pranks, by the way.
or this other one: ()
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probably not though it's probably for the best which is why the national outrage is so ridiculous
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Why is it for the best?
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I sent Henda pics.
And $50.00 a month for hand lotion.
He’s a very funny guy.
LOL! I hear is chest hair is legendary.
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Be careful or that homeless Quarter Pounder guy is going to break in and steal my size 10 black pumps you paid all that money for !
L-O-L
I miss McDonald's. Right when they featured the Double Big Macs the pandemic hit. I only eat in when I go to McDonald's because the fries are only
good for about ten minutes. They use to have the best fries in the world but I don't know what happened to them. Maybe I just changed but they are not like how I remember them when they were only 20 cents a bag.
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common sense, but you are too old to understand, like having a thug tatted nephew thats commited "NO crime". old man STFU
just like most of the media, fake news
LOL. What an idiot. So that's your "proof"? We have three guys here who have no motivation to lie confirming with pictures. You, having no proof, thinks you can tell the gender of someone on a message board by their posts and claims "common sense."
You lose this one.
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This may be the new diversion or maybe not quite the right skin color: Glendale, Arizona
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I think most of us overwhelmingly agree that he was not out jogging. But what crime scene was he fleeing? What crime did he commit?
Sure. To make it real easy... Criminal trespassing. He was looking for shit to steal. Maybe he found something, maybe he didn't. We will never know.
And to be clear, Roscoe and Cousin Goober are fuck ups that need to spend 20 years in prison.
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I miss McDonald's. Right when they featured the Double Big Macs the pandemic hit. I only eat in when I go to McDonald's because the fries are only
good for about ten minutes. They use to have the best fries in the world but I don't know what happened to them. Maybe I just changed but they are not like how I remember them when they were only 20 cents a bag.
I typically don’t eat fries anywhere and I can’t remember the last time I had McDonalds fries.
Maybe once a year I have fries at Red Robin, it’s a chain restaurant and I like their fries.
I have no idea what a Double Big Mac is ? I’m guessing this is like the Wendy’s double double or Baconator ? When I’m back in Hawaii we definitely have to go out for burgers and roundhouse kick bums in the head.
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LOL! I hear is chest hair is legendary.
I love his PMs. Sometimes I have no idea what he’s saying in his British slang, but he is always very polite and adorable. 😁
Chaos is really nice too, he just acts tough on here, but he’s really nice. I also talked to Illuminati and sent him a proof photo. He is a funny guy too.
But it’s not like I’m ready to book a long weekend in Thunder Bay just yet.
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Sorry, didn’t mean to hijack.
Don’t trust the MSM, turn them off and stop letting them poison your life with their ideology.
The three people involved with this event = play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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The MSM created this discussion. If so inclined, they could have just as easily flipped the script and made these videos, story #1, and incited non-blacks into violence against blacks.
These aren't pranks, by the way.
or this other one: ()
WTF
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LOL. What an idiot. So that's your "proof"? We have three guys here who have no motivation to lie confirming with pictures. You, having no proof, thinks you can tell the gender of someone on a message board by their posts and claims "common sense."
You lose this one.
same to you lol, you have no proof other then what other say. there is something called lying, and yes alot of people lie, don't act like an idiot, and start putting the peaces yourself, but your too old and stubborn old man, maybe the corona will take care of you ;D
if it talks like a duck......you finish the rest
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Sure. To make it real easy... Criminal trespassing. He was looking for shit to steal. Maybe he found something, maybe he didn't. We will never know.
And to be clear, Roscoe and Cousin Goober are fuck ups that need to spend 20 years in prison.
Trespassing? That topic has already been beaten to death. There's tape of several people and groups of people going through that construction site. The owner himself didn't consider it an urgent matter. Trespassing is not a felony and those two guys had no authority to make a citizen arrest. You cannot charge some for a crime because you "think" he "might" commit one. And we do know whether or not if he stole something. We have footage of him in the construction site but no footage of him stealing anything. The owner didn't report anything was missing. Nothing was found in Ahmaud's possession that indicated he stole anything.
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I typically don’t eat fries anywhere and I can’t remember the last time I had McDonalds fries.
Maybe once a year I have fries at Red Robin, it’s a chain restaurant and I like their fries.
I have no idea what a Double Big Mac is ? I’m guessing this is like the Wendy’s double double or Baconator ? When I’m back in Hawaii we definitely have to go out for burgers and roundhouse kick bums in the head.
A Big Mac with not just two, but FOUR fat dripping, heart attack inducing patties.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/5c/6e/285c6eaee9b530ddb3d7d27fdf31abc4.gif)
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same to you lol, you have no proof other then what other say. there is something called lying, and yes alot of people lie, don't act like an idiot, and start putting the peaces yourself, but your too old and stubborn old man, maybe the corona will take care of you ;D
if it talks like a duck......you finish the rest
Then we have to evaluate the likelihood of the veracity of the evidence. We have Chaos, Henda, Illuminati, and myself claiming that we have seen pictures of JPJ in GetBig style poses. Then we compare that to your opinion without any evidence at all. Sure we may all be lying. Maybe JPJ paid some woman to pose for those pics. But what rational human being would think that is likely.
I don't know what you mean by "start putting the peaces yourself" but by reading the way you write you are not a very educated person.
Again, you can resort to calling me names. The one on the losing side always resorts to that but you can believe anything you want. In this case, you are just demonstrably wrong and the more you make this claim the bigger idiot you sound like.
Calling me an idiot is quite different than (not "then" as you so ignorantly write) you actually acting like an idiot.
Another bitch owned.
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Trespassing? That topic has already been beaten to death. There's tape of several people and groups of people going through that construction site. The owner himself didn't consider it an urgent matter. Trespassing is not a felony and those two guys had no authority to make a citizen arrest. You cannot charge some for a crime because you "think" he "might" commit one. And we do know whether or not if he stole something. We have footage of him in the construction site but no footage of him stealing anything. The owner didn't report anything was missing. Nothing was found in Ahmaud's possession that indicated he stole anything.
WTF, you are trying to tell me that if you saw two thugs in your back yard late at night...... bullshit, this isn't even worth arguing, your just an old SJW trying to be part of some stupid movement. Moron, again go choke on some corona old man ;D
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WTF, you are trying to tell me that if you saw two thugs in your back yard late at night...... bullshit, this isn't even worth arguing, your just an old SJW trying to be part of some stupid movement. Moron, again go choke on some corona old man ;D
I see you have conceded defeat in your JPJ thread so now you want to change the subject. OK. I'll just have to own you again on a different subject.
You want to make an equivalence between now TWO thugs in my back yard late at night while I am at home and a single person going through a construction site in the middle of the day which is very, very common? And, again, trespassing is a misdemeanor, not a felony. Educate yourself stupid.
You really aren't that bright, are you? Just lashing and flailing about making irrelevant and moronic arguments. Quit while you're behind dum-dum. You're out of your league here.
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he wasn't jogging, let that go already ::)
you saw the video he is clearly a very shady person to say the least, who the hell wears a winter jacket with no shirt? why can't he give his actual age? why is his license suspended? why would anybody trust him?
if you would think nothing of him in your upper middle class oregon neighborhood, well that would make you a perfect target for them
why would i think differently? i have a head that i don't keep buried in the sand
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For them? Them who? Say what you mean. You mean black men.
Once again, the police videos have absolutely no bearing on his being pursued by the the McMichaels and gunned down by Travis McMichael. Ahmaud could have been a serial killer and there is no reason why the McMichaels would have known it. His previous run-ins with the law are completely irrelevant.
I would think nothing of a black person 'turning up' in my upper middle class neighborhood. In fact, some of my neighbors are black and some are a heck of a wealthier than I am. Guess what? They sometimes go out running in this/their neighborhood because it is just as much their right to do so as it is mine.
What am I a perfect target for? Running into a black person on a park trail, one of the school tracks or at the gym? If I did, so what?
My head may be buried in the sand but at least it isn't stuck up so far up my ass that I wouldn't know when I was being a total racist idiot.
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For them? Them who? Say what you mean. You mean black men.
Once again, the police videos have absolutely no bearing on his being pursued by the the McMichaels and gunned down by Travis McMichael. Ahmaud could have been a serial killer and there is no reason why the McMichaels would have known it. His previous run-ins with the law are completely irrelevant.
I would think nothing of a black person 'turning up' in my upper middle class neighborhood. In fact, some of my neighbors are black and some are a heck of a wealthier than I am. Guess what? They sometimes go out running in this/their neighborhood because it is just as much their right to do so as it is mine.
What am I a perfect target for? Running into a black person on a park trail, one of the school tracks or at the gym? If I did, so what?
My head may be buried in the sand but at least it isn't stuck up so far up my ass that I wouldn't know when I was being a total racist idiot.
retarded snowflake reported
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The MSM created this discussion. If so inclined, they could have just as easily flipped the script and made these videos, story #1, and incited non-blacks into violence against blacks.
These aren't pranks, by the way.
or this other one: ()
what were these videos about and why did democrap youtube remove them? narrative? but the poor black thug who was killed by rednecks remain?
commie-tube
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what were these videos about and why did democrap youtube remove them? narrative? but the poor black thug who was killed by rednecks remain?
commie-tube
Those were of a non-white filming himself beating up elderly in a nursing home on his own Youtube channel. Army of one started a thread about it here:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=665837.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=665837.0)
The other one was a mass shooting by a lighter non-white in Arizona last night which was streamed live with body camera.
If people are going to fall for the media's divisive man-bite-dog story, one could easy fill every single post here with recorded incidents of non-Whites/Asians/Hispanics committing infuriatingly sickening violence.
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So a person deserves to be gunned down because he stole a TV, 3 years ago...right😔
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same to you lol, you have no proof other then what other say. there is something called lying, and yes alot of people lie, don't act like an idiot, and start putting the peaces yourself, but your too old and stubborn old man, maybe the corona will take care of you ;D
if it talks like a duck......you finish the rest
Well if it walks like a duck....should we start calling you Elton Liberace or RoastPorkTits ?
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So a person deserves to be gunned down because he stole a TV, 3 years ago...right😔
Apparently so, if you read what some folks have posted here. Oh, and now I am a snowflake for not agreeing that it's okay to chase and gun down someone for walking through a house under construction, worse yet running in the wrong neighborhood and horror of horrors trying to disarm the person pointing a gun at him. ::) Sad world.
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I see you have conceded defeat in your JPJ thread so now you want to change the subject. OK. I'll just have to own you again on a different subject.
You want to make an equivalence between now TWO thugs in my back yard late at night while I am at home and a single person going through a construction site in the middle of the day which is very, very common? And, again, trespassing is a misdemeanor, not a felony. Educate yourself stupid.
You really aren't that bright, are you? Just lashing and flailing about making irrelevant and moronic arguments. Quit while you're behind dum-dum. You're out of your league here.
lol you are too old and senile of a SJW, to argue with, "trespassing is not a felony" WTF, lol what a dumbass
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Lots of getbiggers with impressive legal expertise/JDs to complement their physiques.
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Well if it walks like a duck....should we start calling you Elton Liberace or RoastPorkTits ?
lol you are still "under review"
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lol you are too old and senile of a SJW, to argue with, "trespassing is not a felony" WTF, lol what a dumbass
In Georgia, tresspassing is a misdemeanor. In Hawaii, simple trespass is a violation which is less than a misdemeanor.
https://codes.findlaw.com/ga/title-16-crimes-and-offenses/ga-code-sect-16-7-21.html
https://law.justia.com/codes/hawaii/2011/division5/title37/chapter708/708-815/
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8339519/Home-two-men-accused-killing-ahmed-arbery-searched.html
there are two videos there the shop lifting one and then after that the resisting arrest. he was walking up on the cops in the second. this time round he got shot.
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Why is it for the best?
because he was a criminal, neighborhoods are now safer
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For them? Them who? Say what you mean. You mean black men.
Once again, the police videos have absolutely no bearing on his being pursued by the the McMichaels and gunned down by Travis McMichael. Ahmaud could have been a serial killer and there is no reason why the McMichaels would have known it. His previous run-ins with the law are completely irrelevant.
I would think nothing of a black person 'turning up' in my upper middle class neighborhood. In fact, some of my neighbors are black and some are a heck of a wealthier than I am. Guess what? They sometimes go out running in this/their neighborhood because it is just as much their right to do so as it is mine.
What am I a perfect target for? Running into a black person on a park trail, one of the school tracks or at the gym? If I did, so what?
My head may be buried in the sand but at least it isn't stuck up so far up my ass that I wouldn't know when I was being a total racist idiot.
when i said "for them" i meant criminals, statistically yes they are most likely to be black men
you are completely out of touch with reality while living in your white liberal utopia in oregon, i don't care how many "wealthy" black neighbors you claim to have
those videos have nothing to do with what happened to him? right they didn't show his true character at all, the world really lost something of value ::)
why didn't you have any comment on the random black guy stabbing the old white man in the gas station? that could've been you yet you empathize more with the black "jogger" ???
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So a person deserves to be gunned down because he stole a TV, 3 years ago...right😔
point is nothing of value was lost, retailers and neighborhoods are all safer now
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when i said "for them" i meant criminals, statistically yes they are most likely to be black men
you are completely out of touch with reality while living in your white liberal utopia in oregon, i don't care how many "wealthy" black neighbors you claim to have
those videos have nothing to do with what happened to him? right they didn't show his true character at all, the world really lost something of value ::)
why didn't you have any comment on the random black guy stabbing the old white man in the gas station? that could've been you yet you empathize more with the black "jogger" ???
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Guys like him are quite common, long distance activists. They go on and on about racism and civil rights yet live in an area where there’s no blacks.
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Ahmaud arbery
Armed robbery
Lol
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Ahmaud arbery
Armed robbery
Lol
:D
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8339519/Home-two-men-accused-killing-ahmed-arbery-searched.html
there are two videos there the shop lifting one and then after that the resisting arrest. he was walking up on the cops in the second. this time round he got shot.
He seemed to have a habit of approaching law enforcement and placing his hands in his coat pockets; not a great move for long-term health.
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lol you are too old and senile of a SJW, to argue with, "trespassing is not a felony" WTF, lol what a dumbass
And that's your argument? You've already been proven wrong in the JPJ accusation so now you want to change the subject. And in this case, where the trespass is committed without the owner present, nothing stolen, nobody threatened or hurt, it is considered a misdemeanor. That has already been established in this case. Nobody is claiming that Ahmaud committed a felony walking into a construction site, as many did before him.
Again, I provide evidence to back up my claims. You provide nothing but crying like a baby.
You're a little ignorant bitch and way too smart for you. You've embarrassed yourself enough.
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In Georgia, tresspassing is a misdemeanor. In Hawaii, simple trespass is a violation which is less than a misdemeanor.
https://codes.findlaw.com/ga/title-16-crimes-and-offenses/ga-code-sect-16-7-21.html
https://law.justia.com/codes/hawaii/2011/division5/title37/chapter708/708-815/
Written laws don't matter when anabolicguru is just a feeble dumb ass. When you still have the mind of a child and base your thinking on emotion like a liberal woman, truth doesn't matter. He just emotes, "You're old!", "You're stupid!" anything other than actual proof or evidence. There was always something weak and feminine with anabolicguru.
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because he was a criminal, neighborhoods are now safer
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So let's see, unless I'm missing something he was a shoplifter. Do you believe that shoplifting should be a capital offense? Have you ever done anything in your younger days, your teen years, like shoplifting, bullying, mouthing off to your elders, getting into fights, teasing and humiliating someone else, did drugs, acting like a punk, or were you squeaky clean and never once even veering off the path of virtue?
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point is nothing of value was lost, retailers and neighborhoods are all safer now
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So, you believe that anyone you think, based on your own personal preferences and bias, that thugs, punks, undesirables, or trouble makers regardless if they have committed a capital crime should be executed?
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What’s with all the fucking strawman arguments?
The two issues are not mutually exclusive. It’s possible that the two rednecks were out of line AND the victim was a lowlife piece of shit.
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And that's your argument? You've already been proven wrong in the JPJ accusation so now you want to change the subject. And in this case, where the trespass is committed without the owner present, nothing stolen, nobody threatened or hurt, it is considered a misdemeanor. That has already been established in this case. Nobody is claiming that Ahmaud committed a felony walking into a construction site, as many did before him.
Again, I provide evidence to back up my claims. You provide nothing but crying like a baby.
You're a little ignorant bitch and way too smart for you. You've embarrassed yourself enough.
lol, there was no evidence, nothing was proven, you think she is a chick based on her "username", and you think this guy was innocent because what the media said, Youhave to be trolling, you can't be that dumb lol.
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the argument was never about him deserving to die, the argument was that, WAS HE or WASNT HE INNOCENT.
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So, you believe that anyone you think, based on your own personal preferences and bias, that thugs, punks, undesirables, or trouble makers regardless if they have committed a capital crime should be executed?
NOW this is funny, yet you believe based on what the media said, you don't want anyone to figure it out on their own, and MINDLESS believe it because the media claims, or better yet, based on what their username says. Moron
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again, I choose based on my own experience any day over what the media thinks, I'm hopping all getbiggers do the same, jesus, I expect better then this from getbig,
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I don't understand white people that haven't figured out what the deal is by now. Don't engage black people even if they robbed you. Don't pursue them. Don't argue with them. Don't get into confrontations with them. Don't pull guns on them. Stay the fuck away from them. If they break in and steal your shit then call the cops. Just don't be surprised when even the cops are scared to enforce the law with them. Invest in a home security system. Secure your doors and windows. It doesn't pay to pretend you're Batman, the best thing to do is to move out of Gotham.
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lol, there was no evidence, nothing was proven, you think she is a chick based on her "username", and you think this guy was innocent because what the media said, Youhave to be trolling, you can't be that dumb lol.
Jeeze, you are just beyond stupid. You've taken stupidity to a whole new level. You are a very special type of stupid.
Chaos, Henda, Illuminati, and I have pictures. That is evidence. You may not believe it due to your lack of experience with women but it is evidence. That's blindingly obvious to anyone who does not think emotionally like a little girl. Evidence that I now possess. There is zero reason for any of us to lie. What do we care? All you have is your opinion. An opinion based on naivete, ignorance, emotion, and lack of experience with women as well as the fact you can accept being humiliated and owned by JPJ acerbic wit.
And what was Ahmaud's crime? Trespassing? You are so ignorant, uneducated, and uninformed. Even if Ahmaud was caught with a stolen Dewalt drill, a citizen making a citizen arrest does not have the right to use lethal force.
I'm beginning to see Earl1972's point about the world just being better off without morons like you.
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NOW this is funny, yet you believe based on what the media said, you don't want anyone to figure it out on their own, and MINDLESS believe it because the media claims, or better yet, based on what their username says. Moron
No, you're funny. Your abject stupidity is funny. What crime did he commit?
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again, I choose based on my own experience any day over what the media thinks, I'm hopping all getbiggers do the same, jesus, I expect better then this from getbig,
What kind of life experience can you possibly have? You can barely string together a coherent sentence and sound like a very feminine mama's boy.
Do you still live with your parents?
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Jeeze, you are just beyond stupid. You've taken stupidity to a whole new level. You are a very special type of stupid.
Chaos, Henda, Illuminati, and I have pictures. That is evidence. You may not believe it due to your lack of experience with women but it is evidence. That's blindingly obvious to anyone who does not think emotionally like a little girl. Evidence that I now possess. There is zero reason for any of us to lie. What do we care? All you have is your opinion. An opinion based on naivete, ignorance, emotion, and lack of experience with women as well as the fact you can accept being humiliated and owned by JPJ acerbic wit.
And what was Ahmaud's crime? Trespassing? You are so ignorant, uneducated, and uninformed. Even if Ahmaud was caught with a stolen Dewalt drill, a citizen making a citizen arrest does not have the right to use lethal force.
I'm beginning to see Earl1972's point about the world just being better off without morons like you.
lol another moron claiming that he has "inside information" because he saw some pics, lol what a retard. Go watch more of your liberal fake news, dumbass
this is why i'll vote TRUMP 2020, so liberal pussies like you can cry about how you found truth by looking at some pics lol
ill check back tomorrow for your response, cause unlike u, i actually have a life,
but u go look at more pics, in your hovel lol
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when i said "for them" i meant criminals, statistically yes they are most likely to be black men
you are completely out of touch with reality while living in your white liberal utopia in oregon, i don't care how many "wealthy" black neighbors you claim to have
those videos have nothing to do with what happened to him? right they didn't show his true character at all, the world really lost something of value ::)
why didn't you have any comment on the random black guy stabbing the old white man in the gas station? that could've been you yet you empathize more with the black "jogger" ???
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I posted no comment about the gas station confrontation you are bringing into this discussion, because until you mentioned it here, I'd read nothing about it. Now that you bring it up, I wonder how you think it has anything to do with Ahmaud being murdered. Which now involves 3 white guys?
William Bryan Jr was also accused of a criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment on Thursday, said the Georgia Bureau of Investigations. Gregory McMichael, 64, and son Travis, 34, were charged with murder on May 7th. No matter how many crimes Ahmaud may or may not have committed prior to his being murdered simply isn't relevant to this situation.
Just so you know, empathy is the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. I have no idea what Ahmaud's feelings were, although I imagine he was probably scared shitless in the minutes that led up to his being killed.
Look, there is nothing you can say that will convince me that it was okay for Travis McMichael to shoot and kill Ahmaud Avery. Father and son have been charged with murder which is exactly what it was....plain and simple.
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What’s with all the fucking strawman arguments?
The two issues are not mutually exclusive. It’s possible that the two rednecks were out of line AND the victim was a lowlife piece of shit.
-Got that right. The two issues aren't mutually exclusive. BTW, murder is a little more serious than just 'out of line'.
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lol another moron claiming that he has "inside information" because he saw some pics, lol what a retard. Go watch more of your liberal fake news, dumbass
this is why i'll vote TRUMP 2020, so liberal pussies like you can cry about how you found truth by looking at some pics lol
ill check back tomorrow for your response, cause unlike u, i actually have a life,
but u go look at more pics, in your hovel lol
You just get more and more stupid. God you're embarrassing yourself with such colossal ignorance. Don't you realize everyone is laughing at you? You just make things ups because you have no facts or evidence.
When did I claim to have inside information? Where did you get that from? And to call me a Liberal is just beyond idiotic. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
And I've posted pics and others have posted pics of my house near the ocean in Hawaii. What about you? I noticed you avoided the question about living with your parents. You sound like a teenager. You certainly write like a 3rd grader. Barely literate. You Ccan't spell, don't know basic punctuation and grammar, just a shining example of generation nothingness with no education or even common sense.
And, of course you will be right back waiting for me. You don't have a life. Your life is me right now and just like JPJ, I'm owning your little child-like mind.
This is too easy.
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-Got that right. The two issues aren't mutually exclusive. BTW, murder is a little more serious than just 'out of line'.
I believe the charge for which they will be convicted, based on the current evidence, is manslaughter. Murder is what you do to every thread you enter.
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I believe the charge for which they will be convicted, based on the current evidence, is manslaughter. Murder is what you do to every thread you enter.
Superb! ;D I will be laughing throughout the day because of your excellent closing remark!
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Superb! ;D I will be laughing throughout the day because of your excellent closing remark!
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I believe the charge for which they will be convicted, based on the current evidence, is manslaughter. Murder is what you do to every thread you enter.
If I murder every thread I enter, why isn't this one dead? Explain that.
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If I murder every thread I enter, why isn't this one dead? Explain that.
I suspect it is due entirely to people of good conscience and wit reviving it as needed. ;D
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You just get more and more stupid. God you're embarrassing yourself with such colossal ignorance. Don't you realize everyone is laughing at you? You just make things ups because you have no facts or evidence.
When did I claim to have inside information? Where did you get that from? And to call me a Liberal is just beyond idiotic. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
And I've posted pics and others have posted pics of my house near the ocean in Hawaii. What about you? I noticed you avoided the question about living with your parents. You sound like a teenager. You certainly write like a 3rd grader. Barely literate. You Ccan't spell, don't know basic punctuation and grammar, just a shining example of generation nothingness with no education or even common sense.
And, of course you will be right back waiting for me. You don't have a life. Your life is me right now and just like JPJ, I'm owning your little child-like mind.
This is too easy.
all your assumptions are wrong, lol, and you want us to believe what you say about ahmaud is true, because you saw some pics, in your hovel lol
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all your assumptions are wrong, lol, and you want us to believe what you say about ahmaud is true, because you saw some pics, in your hovel lol
And you want us to believe what you say about Ahmaud is true, just 'cause.
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all your assumptions are wrong, lol, and you want us to believe what you say about ahmaud is true, because you saw some pics, in your hovel lol
OK, so now it's yet another topic. How many times do I have to hand your ass to you?
There was a video showing him running around to the passenger's side of the truck to avoid the guy with the gun. What is false about that.
The picture of my house and where I live has been posted on here before. Where do you live? And you want to compare the worth of my "hovel" to your little apartment?
My assumptions are spot on -- prove me wrong. And try to at least capitalize the first letter of a sentence so you don't look and sound like an uneducated child.
Jeeze, everything about you seems so weak and retarded.
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For anabolicqueer opinions are facts because he says so.
And this guy is allowed to vote.
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No, you're funny. Your abject stupidity is funny. What crime did he commit?
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Notice the pursed lips lol
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For anabolicqueer opinions are facts because he says so.
And this guy is allowed to vote.
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You and I are wasting our time with a minority group of colossal racist idiots. It makes me very sad that there are people so blinded by their prejudices that they become completely out of touch with reality.
Sorry, I could not be silent. I am welshing on our agreement. Please forgive me. If you like, you can give me 40 lashes with a wet noodle.
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You and I are wasting our time with a minority group of colossal racist idiots. It makes me very sad that there are people so blinded by their prejudices that they become completely out of touch with reality.
Sorry, I could not be silent. I am welshing on our agreement. Please forgive me. If you like, you can give me 40 lashes with a wet noodle.
That's fine. As long as we keep it civil and no personal attacks which admittedly came from my end and you just were defending yourself.
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That's fine. As long as we keep it civil and no personal attacks which admittedly came from my end and you just were defending yourself.
Okay...we're cool. Thanks.
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OK, so now it's yet another topic. How many times do I have to hand your ass to you?
There was a video showing him running around to the passenger's side of the truck to avoid the guy with the gun. What is false about that.
The picture of my house and where I live has been posted on here before. Where do you live? And you want to compare the worth of my "hovel" to your little apartment?
My assumptions are spot on -- prove me wrong. And try to at least capitalize the first letter of a sentence so you don't look and sound like an uneducated child.
Jeeze, everything about you seems so weak and retarded.
thats your definition of ass handed, through typing, you must be a real loser, I wonder how much time I occupy in your head, lol. I love how you always have to clarify where you live and how much you make, that usually means otherwise........ you sound very poor and bitter, have fun in your hovel, knowing i get free rent lol
also I don't even read half your post, hope this helps ;D
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On it’s face it’s probably accurate but effecting a so-called “citizens arrest” is a murky area under the best of circumstances. Georgia probably has case law on this that would have to be researched and probably is by the defendants’ attorneys.
I love these posts that make it seem like a citizen's arrest - something legal in every single state in the USA, and every single province and territory in Canada, as well as most other civilized nations of the world. A citizen's right is not only extraordinarily common - it is extremely necessary.
How do you suppose Wal-Mart security guards are able to legally hold shoplifters until the police arrive and properly charge them?
Some of the comments on here talking purporting citizen's arrest to be some difficult or rarely used area of law is simply not the case. It is hugely practiced, and when they unofficially stopped practicing it in Thunder Bay around two years ago because of "that's racist!!!11", groups of Indigenous young males would go into the LCBO [Liquor Control Board of Ontario - Canada's liquor stores where the bottle of ALBERTA Premium Whisky that you American Getbiggers pay $9 for in the USA, WHICH INCLUDES THE COST OF IMPORTING IT ACROSS A NATIONAL BORDER INTO YOUR SOCIETY, costs US CANADIAN GETBIGGERS UNDER GLORIOUS SOCIALISM $54 for the SAME BOTTLE, which is produced domestically, only a few provinces own the highway.
The Indigenous young males would walk in together and just steal a 1.75L bottle each and just leave, LOL. Because preventing an Indigenous person in Canada from committing a crime is "racist colonialism", blah, blah, blah:
https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/thunder-bay-police-charge-shoppers-drug-mart-security-guard-with-assault/
LOL.
And back to those prices, LOL!!!
But hey - we may pay more for ONE 60-oz bottle of 40% spirits than Americans pay for SIX of the same bottle [literally, at the duty-free border shoppe in Grande Portage, MN, I would pay $10 per bottle of Alberta Premium [Canadian] Whisky, but get $1 off when I buy six bottles [Manager's Special], making the cost $54 for six bottles - when ONE such bottle costs $62.40 IN CANADA, WHERE THE SPECIFIC ALCOHOL IN QUESTION IS PRODUCED, LOL!!!
AH, SOCIALISM. And the dummies here in Canada who think paying DOUBLE for everything is somehow a good deal because we get "free" government services that we could easily pay for if so much of our money wasn't taxed, and spent on overpriced/inflated Canadian products.
LOL @ this [Canada]:
https://www.lcbo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/en/lcbo/alberta-premium-whisky-%28pet%29-54213#.XsjhkDpKjIU
Meanwhile in the more [for now] capitalist USA, you pay $10 for the same bottle, but you get $1 off per bottle when you buy six, making 6x bottles of 1.75L Alberta Premium Whisky in the USA cost Americans $8.40 LESS than ONE bottle costs Canadians:
http://www.rydensborderstore.com/duty-free.html
LOL!!!!!!!!!! @ socialism.
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thats your definition of ass handed, through typing, you must be a real loser, I wonder how much time I occupy in your head, lol. I love how you always have to clarify where you live and how much you make, that usually means otherwise........ you sound very poor and bitter, have fun in your hovel, knowing i get free rent lol
also I don't even read half your post, hope this helps ;D
You can even comprehend my post. Your lack of education and sheer stupidity grows with every semi-literate, 3rd grade posts. How did someone like you come this far without drowning himself in a toilet or get run over at a school crossing, or suffocate himself with a plastic garbage bag? No wonder you still have to live with your mom.
And now you are reduced to mimicking me with the fact that you are being owned and continue embarrassing yourself. You're clueless how everyone is just laughing at you. And, no, clarifying where I live with pics both inside and outside of my house means exactly that. I know the difference between proof and evidence and just vapid and shallow opinions.
Of course you live rent/mortgage free. My mom didn't charge me rent either when I lived at home. No wonder you are ashamed to admit where you live.
Lose again. Time for to pick yet another topic for me to own you with and continue to make you my little bitch.
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You and I are wasting our time with a minority group of colossal racist idiots. It makes me very sad that there are people so blinded by their prejudices that they become completely out of touch with reality.
whats racist is, that this story is huge news (Arbery)
nursing home beating is a blip, no sign of it, ive only seen it here
cold blooded murder of white couple in cemetery visiting graves, havent seen any signs of that except when pointed out here
how many blacks killed people in Chicago on a normal weekend? hundreds? No outrage there?
your version of racist and what really is racist are 2 different things
people like you are the real racists, only pointing out crimes against blacks while ignoring their horrifically high numbers of violent crime
hopefully you drop dead shortly
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Poor Armed Robbery go f-ya self
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I love these posts that make it seem like a citizen's arrest - something legal in every single state in the USA, and every single province and territory in Canada, as well as most other civilized nations of the world. A citizen's right is not only extraordinarily common - it is extremely necessary.
How do you suppose Wal-Mart security guards are able to legally hold shoplifters until the police arrive and properly charge them?
Some of the comments on here talking purporting citizen's arrest to be some difficult or rarely used area of law is simply not the case. It is hugely practiced, and when they unofficially stopped practicing it in Thunder Bay around two years ago because of "that's racist!!!11", groups of Indigenous young males would go into the LCBO [Liquor Control Board of Ontario - Canada's liquor stores where the bottle of ALBERTA Premium Whisky that you American Getbiggers pay $9 for in the USA, WHICH INCLUDES THE COST OF IMPORTING IT ACROSS A NATIONAL BORDER INTO YOUR SOCIETY, costs US CANADIAN GETBIGGERS UNDER GLORIOUS SOCIALISM $54 for the SAME BOTTLE, which is produced domestically, only a few provinces own the highway.
The Indigenous young males would walk in together and just steal a 1.75L bottle each and just leave, LOL. Because preventing an Indigenous person in Canada from committing a crime is "racist colonialism", blah, blah, blah:
https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/thunder-bay-police-charge-shoppers-drug-mart-security-guard-with-assault/
LOL.
And back to those prices, LOL!!!
But hey - we may pay more for ONE 60-oz bottle of 40% spirits than Americans pay for SIX of the same bottle [literally, at the duty-free border shoppe in Grande Portage, MN, I would pay $10 per bottle of Alberta Premium [Canadian] Whisky, but get $1 off when I buy six bottles [Manager's Special], making the cost $54 for six bottles - when ONE such bottle costs $62.40 IN CANADA, WHERE THE SPECIFIC ALCOHOL IN QUESTION IS PRODUCED, LOL!!!
AH, SOCIALISM. And the dummies here in Canada who think paying DOUBLE for everything is somehow a good deal because we get "free" government services that we could easily pay for if so much of our money wasn't taxed, and spent on overpriced/inflated Canadian products.
LOL @ this [Canada]:
https://www.lcbo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/en/lcbo/alberta-premium-whisky-%28pet%29-54213#.XsjhkDpKjIU
Meanwhile in the more [for now] capitalist USA, you pay $10 for the same bottle, but you get $1 off per bottle when you buy six, making 6x bottles of 1.75L Alberta Premium Whisky in the USA cost Americans $8.40 LESS than ONE bottle costs Canadians:
http://www.rydensborderstore.com/duty-free.html
LOL!!!!!!!!!! @ socialism.
Matt,
Can you do the board a favor? When you write a 2000 word esssay, can you please put an "abstract" at the beginning? This would be greatly appreciated, and help the flow of the message board.
An abstract is a short summary of a longer work (such as a dissertation or research paper). The abstract concisely reports the aims and outcomes of your research so that readers know exactly what the paper is about.
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here is some "inside information"
this morbidly obese orange turd will lose, be investigated by SDNY and thrown in prison
(https://www.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/trump_doubtfire.jpg)
lol another moron claiming that he has "inside information" because he saw some pics, lol what a retard. Go watch more of your liberal fake news, dumbass
this is why i'll vote TRUMP 2020, so liberal pussies like you can cry about how you found truth by looking at some pics lol
ill check back tomorrow for your response, cause unlike u, i actually have a life,
but u go look at more pics, in your hovel lol
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here is some "inside information"
this morbidly obese orange turd will lose, be investigated by SDNY and thrown in prison
sure he will
a greater chance of you growing some brain cells (of this happening)
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here is some "inside information"
this morbidly obese orange turd will lose, be investigated by SDNY and thrown in prison
(https://www.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/trump_doubtfire.jpg)
You're the same guy who started the "Donald Trump is too dumb to survive impeachment". http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=658508.0
That's what so funny about Liberals, no matter how much and how many times you are wrong, you never admit it and you still make these bold and confident predictions. Seven months from now I will make reference to this thread where you are once again proven wrong and again you will not admit it and will keep making lame predictions.
One of the greatest strength that the Left has, perhaps their greatest strength, is that really have no sense of shame.
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apparently, I have affected your well being - to commit my threads to memory.
Maybe if you weren't so devoted to a criminal presidency, you wouldn't have to live in fear about his fate.
Speaking of shame - which president golfs with 100,000 American's dead?? Oh yeah, the orange turd.
Trump voter rationale "But he protects my white privilege, so its ok"
You're the same guy who started the "Donald Trump is too dumb to survive impeachment". http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=658508.0
That's what so funny about Liberals, no matter how much and how many times you are wrong, you never admit it and you still make these bold and confident predictions. Seven months from now I will make reference to this thread where you are once again proven wrong and again you will not admit it and will keep making lame predictions.
One of the greatest strength that the Left has, perhaps their greatest strength, is that really have no sense of shame.
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Hey straw/dearth if Mr.Pellius piss U off so much , why not (after China Flu) travel to Honolulu & kick his ass ............. 8)
(I'll pay his medical costs , after U "smash him" )
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Hey straw/dearth if Mr.Pellius piss U off so much , why not (after China Flu) travel to Honolulu & kick his ass ............. 8)
(I'll pay his medical costs , after U "smash him" )
Set it up!
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apparently, I have affected your well being - to commit my threads to memory.
Maybe if you weren't so devoted to a criminal presidency, you wouldn't have to live in fear about his fate.
Speaking of shame - which president golfs with 100,000 American's dead?? Oh yeah, the orange turd.
Trump voter rationale "But he protects my white privilege, so its ok"
Certain posts, by its sheer idiocy, stands out. I know it bothers you and other Liberals that in this day and age every lie you tell is recorded and can be referred to forever. In this case, only six months ago. So your only defense is, "Ha, ha, how lame it is that you can remember my lies."
LOL. OK, snowflake.
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Set it up!
Libs don't fight. They negotiate then capitulate. We fly the U.S. flag, they fly the White flag.
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dearth is a sweaty lil nerd
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So let's see, unless I'm missing something he was a shoplifter. Do you believe that shoplifting should be a capital offense? Have you ever done anything in your younger days, your teen years, like shoplifting, bullying, mouthing off to your elders, getting into fights, teasing and humiliating someone else, did drugs, acting like a punk, or were you squeaky clean and never once even veering off the path of virtue?
never stole anything from a retail store, let alone a 65 inch tv
never parked my car in the middle of a park while wearing a winter jacket with no shirt
never mouthed off to the police, even when i got a ticket for not signaling at a stop sign on an empty neighborhood street
never used drugs either, not even weed
i can guarantee arbery did many bad things we will never know about, i'm glad he's dead
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So, you believe that anyone you think, based on your own personal preferences and bias, that thugs, punks, undesirables, or trouble makers regardless if they have committed a capital crime should be executed?
i would be fine with that
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I posted no comment about the gas station confrontation you are bringing into this discussion, because until you mentioned it here, I'd read nothing about it. Now that you bring it up, I wonder how you think it has anything to do with Ahmaud being murdered. Which now involves 3 white guys?
William Bryan Jr was also accused of a criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment on Thursday, said the Georgia Bureau of Investigations. Gregory McMichael, 64, and son Travis, 34, were charged with murder on May 7th. No matter how many crimes Ahmaud may or may not have committed prior to his being murdered simply isn't relevant to this situation.
Just so you know, empathy is the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. I have no idea what Ahmaud's feelings were, although I imagine he was probably scared shitless in the minutes that led up to his being killed.
Look, there is nothing you can say that will convince me that it was okay for Travis McMichael to shoot and kill Ahmaud Avery. Father and son have been charged with murder which is exactly what it was....plain and simple.
i bring up the gas station incident because white liberals like you seem to be keeping quiet about it while you are completely infuriated by this arbery situation, the clinton/china news network won't show the footage because it doesn't fit their anti white agenda
i know what arbery's feelings were steal and don't get caught and i can almost guarantee he felt little if any empathy, they say never take a knife to a gun fight, well arbery was dumb enough to take fists to a gun fight
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You can even comprehend my post. Your lack of education and sheer stupidity grows with every semi-literate, 3rd grade posts. How did someone like you come this far without drowning himself in a toilet or get run over at a school crossing, or suffocate himself with a plastic garbage bag? No wonder you still have to live with your mom.
And now you are reduced to mimicking me with the fact that you are being owned and continue embarrassing yourself. You're clueless how everyone is just laughing at you. And, no, clarifying where I live with pics both inside and outside of my house means exactly that. I know the difference between proof and evidence and just vapid and shallow opinions.
Of course you live rent/mortgage free. My mom didn't charge me rent either when I lived at home. No wonder you are ashamed to admit where you live.
Lose again. Time for to pick yet another topic for me to own you with and continue to make you my little bitch.
22 messages tonite, lol you must be real loser, plus the fact you love to bring up your "wealth" on an internet site, which means the opposite. With all this posting, you sure you have time to collect your welface check? or you still looking at more pics lol, (pellius meltsdown, and comes back with an essay of how "wealthy" he is)
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22 messages tonite, lol you must be real loser, plus the fact you love to bring up your "wealth" on an internet site, which means the opposite. With all this posting, you sure you have time to collect your welface check? or you still looking at more pics lol, (pellius meltsdown, and comes back with an essay of how wealthy he is)
You are beyond retarded and becoming a laughing stock. Where have I bragged about my wealth? You claim I live in a hovel when it's common knowledge verified with pics that I live in a house. You claim I'm on welfare when it's well known that I've been retired as a DOD contractor, even my security badge while at Raytheon Missile Systems was posted here.
It's a sure sign of losing and complete lunacy when you have to just make things up that have already been proven otherwise. But you have already established yourself as making claims without proof or evidence. You're even ashamed to say where you live and what you do and the only thing we know is that you live rent-free, which means you still live with your mother or just sponging off someone else.
The more you post the more you sound like a clown and a loser. But, hey, keep it coming. I can go on like this forever.
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never stole anything from a retail store, let alone a 65 inch tv
never parked my car in the middle of a park while wearing a winter jacket with no shirt
never mouthed off to the police, even when i got a ticket for not signaling at a stop sign on an empty neighborhood street
never used drugs either, not even weed
i can guarantee arbery did many bad things we will never know about, i'm glad he's dead
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Wow. You never did anything wrong or bad in your life. You should start your own religion. You're like Jesus.
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i would be fine with that
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Well, you're in good company: Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jung Un.... your parents must be proud.
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You are beyond retarded and becoming a laughing stock. Where have I bragged about my wealth? You claim I live in a hovel when it's common knowledge verified with pics that I live in a house. You claim I'm on welfare when it's well known that I've been retired as a DOD contractor, even my security badge while at Raytheon Missile Systems was posted here.
It's a sure sign of losing and complete lunacy when you have to just make things up that have already been proven otherwise. But you have already established yourself as making claims without proof or evidence. You're even ashamed to say where you live and what you do and the only thing we know is that you live rent-free, which means you still live with your mother or just sponging off someone else.
The more you post the more you sound like a clown and a loser. But, hey, keep it coming. I can go on like this forever.
Ok, true story, i make more than you, hope this helps
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Ok, true story, i make more than you, hope this helps
Um, no. Just like everything you've said so far, just yakking with no proof or evidence. You're a clown.
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dearth is a sweaty lil nerd
Aren’t most getbiggers?
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saw a new tv show last night called "CopsPD' or the like
the whole show is black folks running from cops, 1-hundred of them fighting at skate-parks, etc
yup some loser white folks but majority are of the darker variety
they get all mouthy
lie when they have guns in the car, no wonder they get shot by police
they instigate most of it
cops here in VT are bored with town drunks or petty drug stuff
couldnt have a show like that up here
would just be dead space
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saw a new tv show last night called "CopsPD' or the like
the whole show is black folks running from cops, 1-hundred of them fighting at skate-parks, etc
yup some loser white folks but majority are of the darker variety
they get all mouthy
lie when they have guns in the car, no wonder they get shot by police
they instigate most of it
cops here in VT are bored with town drunks or petty drug stuff
couldnt have a show like that up here
would just be dead space
More joggers in Tuxedos senselessly gunned down😢
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/8-dead-at-least-15-wounded-in-memorial-day-weekend-gun-violence-in-chicago/2277435/
MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND
8 Dead, at Least 15 Wounded in Memorial Day Weekend Gun Violence in Chicago
Published 58 mins ago • Updated 58 mins ago
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sam elliott said it best watch @2:22
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Wow. You never did anything wrong or bad in your life. You should start your own religion. You're like Jesus.
i'm an angel because i don't talk back to the police or steal from retail ???
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Well, you're in good company: Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jung Un.... your parents must be proud.
why shouldn't they be proud? i'm an honest citizen that doesn't hurt anybody or cause anything even slightly resembling a disturbance
what horrible things have you done in your life since i'm such an "angel" in your eyes?
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Well, you're in good company: Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jung Un.... your parents must be proud.
My goodness, that escalated quickly.
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why shouldn't they be proud? i'm an honest citizen that doesn't hurt anybody or cause anything even slightly resembling a disturbance
what horrible things have you done in your life since i'm such an "angel" in your eyes?
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You don't hurt anybody simply because you don't have the power and authority to do so. By your own admission, you would murder people that you deem, based on your own preferences and prejudices, unfit to live. You don't seem to recognize that base on that criterion that can easily be turned against you.
Like, everybody on this planet, including you (except you simply lie about the purity of your character which is in itself a vice), I am a very flawed person. I've done things that were wrong and I've done things that I regret. "In my eyes" you are no angel but just like a lot of people you think that you are better than you really are. Just the fact that you would like to murder people because, as in the case of Ahmaud, you just don't like the way he looks, the way he speaks, that he parks on the side of the road, that he stole a TV, and that he was, presumably (not proven) casing out a neighborhood.
People, especially boys when they are in their teens, get into trouble, most turn their lives around. I gave a brief bio on Steve McQueen in the Don Johnson thread. If it was up to you, you would have murdered him because he was a punk and a thief in his teens. Then we would have never had that car chase scene in "Bullitt". Imagine what kind of world we would have had without that?
By all accounts, Ahmaud was a punk. But he didn't deserve to get killed.
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By your own admission, you would murder people that you deem, based on your own preferences and prejudices, unfit to live.
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/85c0333c16002cb20d1ec372f0245f9e/tumblr_poedqjc3BN1xiijevo1_1280.jpg)
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apparently, I have affected your well being - to commit my threads to memory.
Maybe if you weren't so devoted to a criminal presidency, you wouldn't have to live in fear about his fate.
Speaking of shame - which president golfs with 100,000 American's dead?? Oh yeah, the orange turd.
Trump voter rationale "But he protects my white privilege, so its ok"
I honestly think you must be a troll
Do white people like you really exist?
You are the epitome of beta
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I honestly think you must be a troll
Do white people like you really exist?
You are the epitome of beta
the new batman twink would think that dearth is a fembot beta
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You don't hurt anybody simply because you don't have the power and authority to do so. By your own admission, you would murder people that you deem, based on your own preferences and prejudices, unfit to live. You don't seem to recognize that base on that criterion that can easily be turned against you.
Like, everybody on this planet, including you (except you simply lie about the purity of your character which is in itself a vice), I am a very flawed person. I've done things that were wrong and I've done things that I regret. "In my eyes" you are no angel but just like a lot of people you think that you are better than you really are. Just the fact that you would like to murder people because, as in the case of Ahmaud, you just don't like the way he looks, the way he speaks, that he parks on the side of the road, that he stole a TV, and that he was, presumably (not proven) casing out a neighborhood.
People, especially boys when they are in their teens, get into trouble, most turn their lives around. I gave a brief bio on Steve McQueen in the Don Johnson thread. If it was up to you, you would have murdered him because he was a punk and a thief in his teens. Then we would have never had that car chase scene in "Bullitt". Imagine what kind of world we would have had without that?
By all accounts, Ahmaud was a punk. But he didn't deserve to get killed.
where did i say i would murder anybody? i said i'm glad he's dead, doesn't mean i would want to pull the trigger
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I love these posts that make it seem like a citizen's arrest - something legal in every single state in the USA, and every single province and territory in Canada, as well as most other civilized nations of the world. A citizen's right is not only extraordinarily common - it is extremely necessary.
How do you suppose Wal-Mart security guards are able to legally hold shoplifters until the police arrive and properly charge them?
Some of the comments on here talking purporting citizen's arrest to be some difficult or rarely used area of law is simply not the case. It is hugely practiced, and when they unofficially stopped practicing it in Thunder Bay around two years ago because of "that's racist!!!11", groups of Indigenous young males would go into the LCBO [Liquor Control Board of Ontario - Canada's liquor stores where the bottle of ALBERTA Premium Whisky that you American Getbiggers pay $9 for in the USA, WHICH INCLUDES THE COST OF IMPORTING IT ACROSS A NATIONAL BORDER INTO YOUR SOCIETY, costs US CANADIAN GETBIGGERS UNDER GLORIOUS SOCIALISM $54 for the SAME BOTTLE, which is produced domestically, only a few provinces own the highway.
The Indigenous young males would walk in together and just steal a 1.75L bottle each and just leave, LOL. Because preventing an Indigenous person in Canada from committing a crime is "racist colonialism", blah, blah, blah:
https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/thunder-bay-police-charge-shoppers-drug-mart-security-guard-with-assault/
LOL.
And back to those prices, LOL!!!
But hey - we may pay more for ONE 60-oz bottle of 40% spirits than Americans pay for SIX of the same bottle [literally, at the duty-free border shoppe in Grande Portage, MN, I would pay $10 per bottle of Alberta Premium [Canadian] Whisky, but get $1 off when I buy six bottles [Manager's Special], making the cost $54 for six bottles - when ONE such bottle costs $62.40 IN CANADA, WHERE THE SPECIFIC ALCOHOL IN QUESTION IS PRODUCED, LOL!!!
AH, SOCIALISM. And the dummies here in Canada who think paying DOUBLE for everything is somehow a good deal because we get "free" government services that we could easily pay for if so much of our money wasn't taxed, and spent on overpriced/inflated Canadian products.
LOL @ this [Canada]:
https://www.lcbo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/en/lcbo/alberta-premium-whisky-%28pet%29-54213#.XsjhkDpKjIU
Meanwhile in the more [for now] capitalist USA, you pay $10 for the same bottle, but you get $1 off per bottle when you buy six, making 6x bottles of 1.75L Alberta Premium Whisky in the USA cost Americans $8.40 LESS than ONE bottle costs Canadians:
http://www.rydensborderstore.com/duty-free.html
LOL!!!!!!!!!! @ socialism.
Anyone who makes a citizen's arrest can find themselves facing possible lawsuits or criminal charges – such as charges of false imprisonment, unlawful restraint, kidnapping, or wrongful arrest – if the wrong person is apprehended or a suspect's civil rights are violated.
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where did i say i would murder anybody? i said i'm glad he's dead, doesn't mean i would want to pull the trigger
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Remember when I asked you this?
So, you believe that anyone you think, based on your own personal preferences and bias, that thugs, punks, undesirables, or trouble makers regardless if they have committed a capital crime should be executed?
You said you would be fine with that. If you want people put to death based on your own personal preferences and bias but don't have the guts to do it yourself doesn't relieve you of responsibility. Do you think Pol Pot killed 2/3 of his own people by himself?
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Anyone who makes a citizen's arrest can find themselves facing possible lawsuits or criminal charges – such as charges of false imprisonment, unlawful restraint, kidnapping, or wrongful arrest – if the wrong person is apprehended or a suspect's civil rights are violated.
And the claim that citizens arrests are very common is just laughable. For some inexplicable reason I have a soft spot for Matt but, jeez, he's really out there.
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Remember when I asked you this?
You said you would be fine with that. If you want people put to death based on your own personal preferences and bias but don't have the guts to do it yourself doesn't relieve you of responsibility. Do you think Pol Pot killed 2/3 of his own people by himself?
i would be fine in the sense that i wouldn't cry or lose any sleep over it, doesn't mean i would kill them myself if i could get away with it whether you think it is lacking guts or whatever
i don't have the responsibility to mourn the loss of those that act like parasites, that is why i would be fine
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i would be fine in the sense that i wouldn't cry or lose any sleep over it, doesn't mean i would kill them myself if i could get away with it whether you think it is lacking guts or whatever
i don't have the responsibility to mourn the loss of those that act like parasites, that is why i would be fine
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Again, that was my point. You have no problem having others kill based on your own personal preferences and prejudices but leave the dirty work to others. I get it.
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Again, that was my point. You have no problem having others kill based on your own personal preferences and prejudices but leave the dirty work to others. I get it.
so i'm a pussy because i wouldn't kill them myself, is that what you are saying?
i have to care about the lives of everybody that are nothing but a nuisance and would hurt me if they thought it was to their benefit?
i had a coworker years ago that drowned while on vacation, i hated his guts and work was a lot more peaceful with him being gone so no i didn't mourn his death, should i have drowned him myself to have your respect?
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so i'm a pussy because i wouldn't kill them myself, is that what you are saying?
i have to care about the lives of everybody that are nothing but a nuisance and would hurt me if they thought it was to their benefit?
i had a coworker years ago that drowned while on vacation, i hated his guts and work was a lot more peaceful with him being gone so no i didn't mourn his death, should i have drowned him myself to have your respect?
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You don't see the difference in someone drowning in an accident and someone holding his head underwater until he drowns to death? Would you have felt the same way that instead of drowning on vacation that he was murdered instead?
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You don't see the difference in someone drowning in an accident and someone holding his head underwater until he drowns to death? Would you have felt the same way that instead of drowning on vacation that he was murdered instead?
i actually think him dying in an accident is more tragic, if somebody murdered him i probably would've thought he finally pissed off the wrong person haha
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i actually think him dying in an accident is more tragic, if somebody murdered him i probably would've thought he finally pissed off the wrong person haha
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Yes, "Ha, ha."
Just to be clear, there is no argument here. Nothing about convincing anybody about who is right or wrong on how they feel. It's about clarity. People say things without realizing the implications. The world is full of people who nonchalantly dismiss the worth and lives of others. Just on this board alone how many people claim there are too many people in the world and its population needs to be culled. Of course, they never include themselves. If you lived in Cambodia during the seventies you would have been put to death for being educated and not having callouses on your hands. What's good for the goose..., right? Of course, even the worse monsters in history never thought they were evil people and woke up every morning thinking of ways to make life more miserable and cruel for others. They all thought they were doing things for the best and can pass judgment on who deserves to live and who deserves to die. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet, eh? They pat themselves on that back every day saying how good they are and how proud their parents must be.
Yes, you have clarified your position. "Haha," indeed.
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And the claim that citizens arrests are very common is just laughable.
It doesn't just apply to a citizen personally arresting someone physically. If you see a crime and call the cops, then proceed to follow to criminal until the cops arrive; it's the same thing.
I only know this because I saw a guy steal this kids bike at Walgreens and I called the cops and followed him until they arrived. I had to sign some stupid form because it was considered a citizens arrest, well at least in the state I live in.
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This guy did not deserve to die, they should have followed him and waited for the cops. It's sad that people think it's ok to kill others based on perception. These guys will be charged. I live in a shit part of town and carry almost daily, I would never dream of acting like this.
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Will Amy Cooper steal the spotlight?
Once the commercial media gives the go ahead, you will be allowed to discuss.
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It doesn't just apply to a citizen personally arresting someone physically. If you see a crime and call the cops, then proceed to follow to criminal until the cops arrive; it's the same thing.
I only know this because I saw a guy steal this kids bike at Walgreens and I called the cops and followed him until they arrived. I had to sign some stupid form because it was considered a citizens arrest, well at least in the state I live in.
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This guy did not deserve to die, they should have followed him and waited for the cops. It's sad that people think it's ok to kill others based on perception. These guys will be charged. I live in a shit part of town and carry almost daily, I would never dream of acting like this.
I've called cops countless times reporting suspicious activity. I called the cops last week on a homeless bum walking down the street screaming, swearing, and threatening people. I followed him until the cops came and when I saw the police car I pointed to where the guy was. It ended there for me. I think most people consider actually stopping someone as a citizen arrest and not just reporting him.
Carrying, and knowing the consequences of getting involved and using it, even if you are clearly doing what is right and legal, shows good sense. People think that if someone is charging at you with a knife and you shoot him dead that it will end there. You will be found innocent but there will be a cost to be paid in the form of time spent and legal fees. Plus, it's now on your record and if it happens again, even if you are again doing what is right and legal, thing will be a lot tougher as it will be argued that you are showing a pattern of using your firearm.
BTW, I am a firearms enthusiast, what do you carry and what do you load it with? I know a lot of hardcore guys look down on the 9mm but it's a good and easy round to shoot (which is important in a high stress situation) and the advances in the lethality with the high-velocity loads and being easy to double stack it for more rounds without increasing the size much.
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I've called cops countless times reporting suspicious activity. I called the cops last week on a homeless bum walking down the street screaming, swearing, and threatening people. I followed him until the cops came and when I saw the police car I pointed to where the guy was. It ended there for me. I think most people consider actually stopping someone as a citizen arrest and not just reporting him.
Carrying, and knowing the consequences of getting involved and using it, even if you are clearly doing what is right and legal, shows good sense. People think that if someone is charging at you with a knife and you shoot him dead that it will end there. You will be found innocent but there will be a cost to be paid in the form of time spent and legal fees. Plus, it's now on your record and if it happens again, even if you are again doing what is right and legal, thing will be a lot tougher as it will be argued that you are showing a pattern of using your firearm.
BTW, I am a firearms enthusiast, what do you carry and what do you load it with? I know a lot of hardcore guys look down on the 9mm but it's a good and easy round to shoot (which is important in a high stress situation) and the advances in the lethality with the high-velocity loads and being easy to double stack it for more rounds without increasing the size much.
I agree on all points! Even in self defense, if you shoot and kill someone be prepared for years of torment in court and massive legal fees. It simply is not worth it unless you absolutely have no choice. These guys are looking at 6 figure legal fees and years of court dates; was it really worth it to play police man? Plus being such a high profile case, their lives are over from a certain perspective. This could have easily been avoided.
I grew up in Texas, so I'm a bit of a gun nut myself. My daily concealed choices are my favorite Glock 43 or Sig P365. Typically loaded with Federal Personal Defense HST 9mm rounds; I'm not playing around. I'd never want to be in a situation to even pull my weapon, but I've seen crazy things growing up in bad parts of town and traveling all over the country for work that make me a bit uneasy. I'd rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.
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I agree on all points! Even in self defense, if you shoot and kill someone be prepared for years of torment in court and massive legal fees. It simply is not worth it unless you absolutely have no choice. These guys are looking at 6 figure legal fees and years of court dates; was it really worth it to play police man? Plus being such a high profile case, their lives are over from a certain perspective. This could have easily been avoided.
I grew up in Texas, so I'm a bit of a gun nut myself. My daily concealed choices are my favorite Glock 43 or Sig P365. Typically loaded with Federal Personal Defense HST 9mm rounds; I'm not playing around. I'd never want to be in a situation to even pull my weapon, but I've seen crazy things growing up in bad parts of town and traveling all over the country for work that make me a bit uneasy. I'd rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.
Ah, we are kindred spirits. I also carry a Glock 43 and sometimes my Glock 19
which is 25 years old with thousands of rounds through it and still going strong. I'm also a big fan of Sig Sauer but prefer Glock for carry as it's lighter and fits my hand like a glove. I use Corbon's 9mm 115+P JHP.
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Ah, we are kindred spirits. I also carry a Glock 43 and sometimes my Glock 19
which is 25 years old with thousands of rounds through it and still going strong. I'm also a big fan of Sig Sauer but prefer Glock for carry as it's lighter and fits my hand like a glove. I use Corbon's 9mm 115+P JHP.
Great choices! My brother has a G19, amazing gun. Glocks are great guns, I've shot about everything and still prefer them.
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Ah, we are kindred spirits. I also carry a Glock 43 and sometimes my Glock 19
which is 25 years old with thousands of rounds through it and still going strong. I'm also a big fan of Sig Sauer but prefer Glock for carry as it's lighter and fits my hand like a glove. I use Corbon's 9mm 115+P JHP.
Pellius,
Serious question. Are you legally allowed to own/carry firearms, with your record? If not, why would you risk it? Isn't Hawaii fairly safe?
Why not carry a knife or pepper spray, instead? ???
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Ah, we are kindred spirits. I also carry a Glock 43 and sometimes my Glock 19
which is 25 years old with thousands of rounds through it and still going strong. I'm also a big fan of Sig Sauer but prefer Glock for carry as it's lighter and fits my hand like a glove. I use Corbon's 9mm 115+P JHP.
I have to admit that I don't own or even know how to use a gun. I know that two of my brothers and their wives and one nephew are gun owners and enthusiasts but I don't think I'm smart enough in that stuff to ever own one.
Needless to say they agree with that sentiment because they have taken me to a range place to learn to shoot but it hurts my ears even with those headphones on and the loudness scares me too. I know, what pussy, LOL! yup!
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Pellius,
Serious question. Are you legally allowed to own/carry firearms, with your record? If not, why would you risk it? Isn't Hawaii fairly safe?
Why not carry a knife or pepper spray, instead? ???
The only time I'd ever pull and use a gun is if my life was in grave danger. I know the consequences of using a firearm even if it was overwhelming justified, i.e., life and death. In such a case I would protect my life and the life of an innocent regardless of the laws of the State. Laws mean nothing when you're dead.
Fortunately, in maybe 98% of the time just brandishing a firearm will be enough to protect you and I have done just that several times.
I do also carry a Cold Steel lockback four inch Tanto. I don't consider pepper spray a good self defense option.
I don't know what you mean by "with my record".
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The only time I'd ever pull and use a gun is if my life was in grave danger. I know the consequences of using a firearm even if it was overwhelming justified, i.e., life and death. In such a case I would protect my life and the life of an innocent regardless of the laws of the State. Laws mean nothing when you're dead.
Fortunately, in maybe 98% of the time just brandishing a firearm will be enough to protect you and I have done just that several times.
I do also carry a Cold Steel lockback four inch Tanto. I don't consider pepper spray a good self defense option.
I don't know what you mean by "with my record".
I was referring to your legal troubles. It's been discussed on the board in the past. I'm pretty sure you've even talked about it, on the board. ???
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i bought a gun 30 years ago. a little 25 Bryco, shot it once, put it in my draw, still sits there to this day.
never fired it again
no need
no chocolates where I live in VT historically.
might need to dig it out now with the refugees coming around though.
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Don't own a gun. -Never have given it much thought. In the past 75 years, there has never been any occasion when I felt my life was in danger to the point where I would need a gun. Not saying it couldn't happen, but the likelihood of that is fairly remote. I've also never carried a knife other than the miniature Swiss army knife on my key chain. I've had to throw a couple of them away at the airport because I forgot to remove them ahead of time.
Negative thoughts invite negative events, IMO. If I carried a weapon, it would be to me like a constant reminder of the possibility of something bad happening.
Forty years ago, some kids (or small people) broke into the house through a tiny basement window. They were in the house long enough to gather up a few things to steal. Apparently I arrived home before they'd completed their mission and scared them off. They left what they planned to steal in the middle of the kitchen floor. A B&W TV, a sewing machine and a guitar. I secured the basement window and bought a Great Dane from a breeder. She didn't have a mean or aggressive bone in her over-sized body. She would stand on her hind legs and look over the top of a 5' fence that I installed to keep her safe and contained. Nobody ever broke into our house again. Some people even crossed the street when walking by our house.
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Don't own a gun. -Never have given it much thought. In the past 75 years, there has never been any occasion when I felt my life was in danger to the point where I would need a gun. Not saying it couldn't happen, but the likelihood of that is fairly remote. I've also never carried a knife other than the miniature Swiss army knife on my key chain. I've had to throw a couple of them away at the airport because I forgot to remove them ahead of time.
Negative thoughts invite negative events, IMO. If I carried a weapon, it would be to me like a constant reminder of the possibility of something bad happening.
Forty years ago, some kids (or small people) broke into the house through a tiny basement window. They were in the house long enough to gather up a few things to steal. Apparently I arrived home before they'd completed their mission and scared them off. They left what they planned to steal in the middle of the kitchen floor. A B&W TV, a sewing machine and a guitar. I secured the basement window and bought a Great Dane from a breeder. She didn't have a mean or aggressive bone in her over-sized body. She would stand on her hind legs and look over the top of a 5' fence that I installed to keep her safe and contained. Nobody ever broke into our house again. Some people even crossed the street when walking by our house.
you live in a place where its not needed, many do not have that luxury
people are constantly defending their homes from home invaders, though the news likes to ignore it
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Don't own a gun. -Never have given it much thought. In the past 75 years, there has never been any occasion when I felt my life was in danger to the point where I would need a gun. Not saying it couldn't happen, but the likelihood of that is fairly remote. I've also never carried a knife other than the miniature Swiss army knife on my key chain. I've had to throw a couple of them away at the airport because I forgot to remove them ahead of time.
Negative thoughts invite negative events, IMO. If I carried a weapon, it would be to me like a constant reminder of the possibility of something bad happening.
Forty years ago, some kids (or small people) broke into the house through a tiny basement window. They were in the house long enough to gather up a few things to steal. Apparently I arrived home before they'd completed their mission and scared them off. They left what they planned to steal in the middle of the kitchen floor. A B&W TV, a sewing machine and a guitar. I secured the basement window and bought a Great Dane from a breeder. She didn't have a mean or aggressive bone in her over-sized body. She would stand on her hind legs and look over the top of a 5' fence that I installed to keep her safe and contained. Nobody ever broke into our house again. Some people even crossed the street when walking by our house.
I agree with you, sir. A dog is great! We have had a few Dobermans as pets, one of which was what is often called (albeit incorrectly) a "Warlock" Doberman. He was Schutzhund. I once got a flattop haircut (from shoulder length!) and when I went to come in via a fence gate, our Dobie came at me and had my wrist in her teeth until she recognized me.
We no longer have Dobies but I think about getting a pair of them again but I doubt that will happen. I could not walk them like they would need because of my physical problem. I like dogs. As for cats, a Maine Coone (by the belly of the buddha, I had to spell it with an "e" otherwise it came out as "guy"..It's a CAT!) would be great. They're like a dog in some ways and can get quite large and enjoy walks on a leash. I've had friends that have them and they would be soooo cool to own along with Dobies. I'm rambling...sorry. Back on topic.
It is unfortunate that this young man was killed. Yes, I doubt he was going to be much of an asset to society but if we are honest, we really don't know. But we do know that he was a verified asshole with a history of being a real turd. We also know there's no time travel because if there were, I would've fixed a ton of shit by now. ;D
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you live in a place where its not needed, many do not have that luxury
people are constantly defending their homes from home invaders, though the news likes to ignore it
At the time that this attempted robbery happened we lived in what was then considered Portland's black ghetto. Also, despite having a very attentive police department in my current location, there are burglaries. One noteworthy case happened a few years ago about 1/4 mile from my house. Gertrude Boyle, former Chair and owner of Columbia Sportwear was kidnapped and held prisoner in her own garage.
If a thief is looking for a good mark, they are going to choose a neighborhood where they are most likely to get a good haul. It may not be the kind of spur of the moment theft you'd find elsewhere, but one which is more carefully plotted and ultimately more dangerous to the victim.
gert boyle robbery columbia sportswear
Author: KGW Staff
Published: 4:55 AM PDT October 30, 2013
Updated: 4:55 AM PDT October 30, 2013
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PORTLAND, Ore. -- Last week's attack on Columbia Sportswear's Gert Boyle included a plan to kidnap her and hold her for ransom,according to probable cause documents obtained by KGWNewsChannel 8.
Jose Luis Arevalo told investigators that he drove his van to Gert Boyle s house for the purpose of kidnapping her in exchange for $20,000 as a share.
The information came as part of an indcitment filed Tuesday against the three defendents and obtained exclusively by KGW.
Court documents show the suspects planned with the purpose of compelling Gertrude Boyle and or her family and/or her company to pay or deliver money for property as ransom.
The court documents stated that Ramon Alberto Midence and Nestor Gabriel Caballero Gutierrez started plotting the kidnap and ransom scheme as early as January.
The indicment listed eight witnesses testified before the grand jury, including Boyle, police and a relative of one of the suspects.
Arevalo and Midence were arrested Monday in connection with the home invasion robbery of former Columbia Sportswear CEO Gert Boyle. They face burglary, robbery and kidnapping charges.
In documents obtained by KGW, Midence admitted plotting the crime in advance with 39-year-old Caballero Gutierrez, and dropping him off at Boyle's house that night.
Caballero Gutierrez is charged with kidnapping, assault, conspiracy, solicitation, coercion, robbery and burglary.
West Linn police saidCaballero Gutierrez approached Boyle in her driveway and forced his way into her home while holding her at gun-point. He then reportedly tied Boyle up before fleeing the scene last Wednesday night. Boyle was able to set off an alarm that alerted police.
Caballero Gutierrez confesses
In probable cause documents, detectives wrote that Caballero Gutierrez confessed to the burglary and had the victim's jewelry.
Caballero Gutierrez appeared in court on charges of kidnapping, robbery and burglaryFriday. He was also being detained on a no bail immigration hold.
According to friends of the suspects and police reports, all three appeared to be broke, desperate, and looking for money.
This wasn't a random thing at all, this wasn't a guy in the neighborhood looking for big houses, said Sgt. Neil Hennelly of the West Linn police department. He was specifically going after Gert Boyle.
Suspect's home foreclosed
Caballero Gutierrez lives in a quiet Beaverton neighborhood.
On Friday, KGW learned that Caballero Gutierrez was forced out of his home in Sherwood after defaulting on his loan. Records show his $315,000 loan was foreclosed in December of 2009.
One neighbor told KGW he was surprised to learn of the charges.
We've known him for quite a while, he's always been such a great.. seemed like a hard worker, really great guy, said Tom Tucker.
Caballero Gutierrez doesn't have a criminal history.
It's sad. I don't know what to say, why that happened, said his brother-in-law Patrick Darang. Just probably stress, I don't know. Money problems . . . who knows what it is.
State records showed that until about a year ago, Caballero Gutierrez ran Creativa Advertising Agency out of a Southwest Portland office. The agency specialized in marketing to Hispanic clients.
He had a nice office. He hustled quite a bit and was always on the move, and he looked like he was doing fine, a man who worked in the same office building said.
The man, who asked not to be identified, said Caballero Gutierrez' office abruptly closed about a year ago. He added, a number of people would come by looking for bills that had not been taken care of.
I was asking him if he had any more work and he said that the situation was just really bad, said Mike Iguarta, who worked for him and last spoke with him about four months ago.
Boyle received only minor injuries in the attack, but was still feeling well enough to kid the West Linn chief of police about his outerwear choice when he showed up at her door wearing a North Face jacket.
MORE: Boyle thwarts robber, presses panic button
KGWReporter Kyle Iboshi contributed to this report
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At the time that this attempted robbery happened we lived in what was then considered Portland's black ghetto. Also, despite having a very attentive police department in my current location, there are burglaries. One noteworthy case happened a few years ago about 1/4 mile from my house. Gertrude Boyle, former Chair and owner of Columbia Sportwear was kidnapped and held prisoner in her own garage.
If a thief is looking for a good mark, they are going to choose a neighborhood where they are most likely to get a good haul. It may not be the kind of spur of the moment theft you'd find elsewhere, but one which is more carefully plotted and ultimately more dangerous to the victim.
In WH, did you live on the beach or the desert side of Ventura ave?
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We were about 12 blocks north of Ventura Blvd on 22734 Calvert which is one property in going east from Fallbrook Ave. It was a fairly large piece of property, maybe 3 acres. It's never been subdivided which seems kind of odd. When I lived there, there was no pool and no tennis court. From the air, the house looks the same.
Can't see much from the street because of the vegetation. Here's an aerial view of the place:
I'll get back to you with info but same as you, both WH and R but WH South of V near Taft.
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If a thief is looking for a good mark, they are going to choose a neighborhood where they are most likely to get a good haul. It may not be the kind of spur of the moment theft you'd find elsewhere, but one which is more carefully plotted and ultimately more dangerous to the victim.
true, but if not a place where it happens daily (like in some places) chances are much less of it happening
in some places (baltimore, chicago, detroit, philly) you'd be dumb to not own some sort of lethal (or paralyzing) protection in your home
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crime in my town:
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crime in my town:
I’ve seen the audience for Phish concerts when they play Saratoga. Good luck finding a black guy in that crowd.
Vermont is a beautiful state but you must freeze your ass off up there in the winter.
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I was referring to your legal troubles. It's been discussed on the board in the past. I'm pretty sure you've even talked about it, on the board. ???
If you are talking about the time when I was without health insurance and ordered Test online which was seized and I had a controlled delivery that was over 12 years ago (I didn't realize you have been on this board that long). I had been treated by an endocrinologist for years prior who prescribed me my TRT. He confirmed that I was under his care and determined that I had a physical need for the hormone. It was also stressed that though Testosterone is under the Steroid Controlled Act, it is a hormone, not a drug per se, produced naturally in your body. It was compared to those that order insulin from Canada which also requires a prescription but don't have the insurance for the script or can afford the prices the US charges.
The case was dismissed and I have no record and free to purchase and own firearms.
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Don't own a gun. -Never have given it much thought. In the past 75 years, there has never been any occasion when I felt my life was in danger to the point where I would need a gun. Not saying it couldn't happen, but the likelihood of that is fairly remote. I've also never carried a knife other than the miniature Swiss army knife on my key chain. I've had to throw a couple of them away at the airport because I forgot to remove them ahead of time.
Negative thoughts invite negative events, IMO. If I carried a weapon, it would be to me like a constant reminder of the possibility of something bad happening.
Forty years ago, some kids (or small people) broke into the house through a tiny basement window. They were in the house long enough to gather up a few things to steal. Apparently I arrived home before they'd completed their mission and scared them off. They left what they planned to steal in the middle of the kitchen floor. A B&W TV, a sewing machine and a guitar. I secured the basement window and bought a Great Dane from a breeder. She didn't have a mean or aggressive bone in her over-sized body. She would stand on her hind legs and look over the top of a 5' fence that I installed to keep her safe and contained. Nobody ever broke into our house again. Some people even crossed the street when walking by our house.
Do you believe that owning a fire extinguisher would be a "negative thought" that would invite a fire? Do you believe buying insurance would be a "negative thought" inviting disaster or accidents? Does having a powerful, well armed military invite foreign aggression? This is not meant as an attack but I don't understand the logic of being prepared for unfortunate or even life-threatening events.
You are fortunate that nothing ever happened that put your life in danger. Many have not been as lucky and have paid the price. They did not own a gun and had no means to protect themselves. Not owning a gun did nothing for their good karma or positive thoughts. It is without exaggeration that overwhelmingly, I would venture to guess well over 90%, of people killed or murdered, did not own a gun. We do know for a fact that lives have been saved by citizens that were armed.
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I agree with you, sir. A dog is great! We have had a few Dobermans as pets, one of which was what is often called (albeit incorrectly) a "Warlock" Doberman. He was Schutzhund. I once got a flattop haircut (from shoulder length!) and when I went to come in via a fence gate, our Dobie came at me and had my wrist in her teeth until she recognized me.
We no longer have Dobies but I think about getting a pair of them again but I doubt that will happen. I could not walk them like they would need because of my physical problem. I like dogs. As for cats, a Maine Coone (by the belly of the buddha, I had to spell it with an "e" otherwise it came out as "guy"..It's a CAT!) would be great. They're like a dog in some ways and can get quite large and enjoy walks on a leash. I've had friends that have them and they would be soooo cool to own along with Dobies. I'm rambling...sorry. Back on topic.
It is unfortunate that this young man was killed. Yes, I doubt he was going to be much of an asset to society but if we are honest, we really don't know. But we do know that he was a verified asshole with a history of being a real turd. We also know there's no time travel because if there were, I would've fixed a ton of shit by now. ;D
A good guard dog is the best defense against a home invasion and they are a huge deterrent when you are out for a walk. Unfortunately, I didn't have my dog with me when I was getting gas at around 2 in the morning at a remote station in the middle of Barstow when I saw a nig waking toward me asking what time it was and notice about three others walking toward me from all directions. I pulled out my Glock 19 which I had in a fanny pack, looked down at it, and told him it was around 2 am. He said thanks and they all walked away.
Also, few restaurants and movie theatres allow you to bring your German Shepard with you.
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If you are talking about the time when I was without health insurance and ordered Test online which was seized and I had a controlled delivery that was over 12 years ago (I didn't realize you have been on this board that long). I had been treated by an endocrinologist for years prior who prescribed me my TRT. He confirmed that I was under his care and determined that I had a physical need for the hormone. It was also stressed that though Testosterone is under the Steroid Controlled Act, it is a hormone, not a drug per se, produced naturally in your body. It was compared to those that order insulin from Canada which also requires a prescription but don't have the insurance for the script or can afford the prices the US charges.
The case was dismissed and I have no record and free to purchase and own firearms.
My bad, I must be mistaken. I remember when Vince B kept calling you by your real name. I think it was the quarter pounder thread. Anyways, somebody had posted a link to your court records in Hawaii. I thought I remembered reading that you plead guilty to a felony, or plea deal, or something. I just assumed you weren't allowed to buy guns. Maybe it was somebody else. My bad, I must have you mixed up with somebody else.
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A good guard dog is the best defense against a home invasion and they are a huge deterrent when you are out for a walk. Unfortunately, I didn't have my dog with me when I was getting gas at around 2 in the morning at a remote station in the middle of Barstow when I saw a nig waking toward me asking what time it was and notice about three others walking toward me from all directions. I pulled out my Glock 19 which I had in a fanny pack, looked down at it, and told him it was around 2 am. He said thanks and they all walked away.
Also, few restaurants and movie theatres allow you to bring your German Shepard with you.
My family is asking me to think about one of those canine assistants but in large size and Shutzhund trained. They said at the least I should get an iPhone and an Apple watch because I tend to fall a lot and the watch will do the old, "Help! I've fallen and can't giddyup!" ;D
I can't even run from trouble, dammit! I'm better off than a bunch of people I've met so I tend to make fun of myself and try to have a sense of humor. I like Dobies and German Shepherds so when I finally get to retire I may get a couple of them.
Thanks for the words, brother! Believe me, I am listening.
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Don't own a gun. -Never have given it much thought. In the past 75 years, there has never been any occasion when I felt my life was in danger to the point where I would need a gun. Not saying it couldn't happen, but the likelihood of that is fairly remote. I've also never carried a knife other than the miniature Swiss army knife on my key chain. I've had to throw a couple of them away at the airport because I forgot to remove them ahead of time.
Negative thoughts invite negative events, IMO. If I carried a weapon, it would be to me like a constant reminder of the possibility of something bad happening.
Forty years ago, some kids (or small people) broke into the house through a tiny basement window. They were in the house long enough to gather up a few things to steal. Apparently I arrived home before they'd completed their mission and scared them off. They left what they planned to steal in the middle of the kitchen floor. A B&W TV, a sewing machine and a guitar. I secured the basement window and bought a Great Dane from a breeder. She didn't have a mean or aggressive bone in her over-sized body. She would stand on her hind legs and look over the top of a 5' fence that I installed to keep her safe and contained. Nobody ever broke into our house again. Some people even crossed the street when walking by our house.
I wish I lived in an area that I didn't worry about having a gun. Growing up in a bad part of Houston and then living in Albuquerque for several years made me very nervous. I've traveled to 30+ states for work and stayed in some sketchy areas.
I can tell you at least 7-8 situations where I either wished I had a gun or the fact that I had one stopped a bad situation. 12 years ago a group of thugs tried to rob my ex-wife and I as we left an expensive department store; I was not carrying at this time but we where able to run to my car and get away before they hit one of us with a piece of rebar; they were not intending on threatening us, they were going to hurt us or worse. They busted my car window but thankfully I was able to get away. There were 3 guys dressed in black, all carrying pieces of steel pipe or rebar, it was hard to tell. The weekend after this happen there was a lady beaten half to death with a pipe in the same parking lot; they took her purse and a $300 bracelet she just purchased. I'm assuming this was the same group of guys.
Anyway, I've been all over the world and have been to places where I felt safe and didn't worry about these things. There are plenty of safe places to live in the US, but I've always lived in big cities due to my choice of work. My parents live in the mountains of northern New Mexico, there is no crime there at all. You can leave your house unlocked and keys in your car without concern. However there is no workforce there, it's a small town that is off the beaten path.
I was robbed at knife point by some refugees in Baden-Baden Germany in 2016, a very nice place to live. It can happen anywhere I guess. When it happen the owner of the establishment I was in approached me and told me to leave immediately; apparently the refugees are protected there and me being an American it was useless to contact the authorities. He made me leave and promise never to return, like it was my fault. I did contact the Police and they took a report and told me it would be best for me not to discuss this to anyone. I left the following day for Munich instead of staying the extra 3 days I had planned. Crazy shit.
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I wish I lived in an area that I didn't worry about having a gun. Growing up in a bad part of Houston and then living in Albuquerque for several years made me very nervous. I've traveled to 30+ states for work and stayed in some sketchy areas.
I can tell you at least 7-8 situations where I either wished I had a gun or the fact that I had one stopped a bad situation. 12 years ago a group of thugs tried to rob my ex-wife and I as we left an expensive department store; I was not carrying at this time but we where able to run to my car and get away before they hit one of us with a piece of rebar; they were not intending on threatening us, they were going to hurt us or worse. They busted my car window but thankfully I was able to get away. There were 3 guys dressed in black, all carrying pieces of steel pipe or rebar, it was hard to tell. The weekend after this happen there was a lady beaten half to death with a pipe in the same parking lot; they took her purse and a $300 bracelet she just purchased. I'm assuming this was the same group of guys.
Anyway, I've been all over the world and have been to places where I felt safe and didn't worry about these things. There are plenty of safe places to live in the US, but I've always lived in big cities due to my choice of work. My parents live in the mountains of northern New Mexico, there is no crime there at all. You can leave your house unlocked and keys in your car without concern. However there is no workforce there, it's a small town that is off the beaten path.
I was robbed at knife point by some refugees in Baden-Baden Germany in 2016, a very nice place to live. It can happen anywhere I guess. When it happen the owner of the establishment I was in approached me and told me to leave immediately; apparently the refugees are protected there and me being an American it was useless to contact the authorities. He made me leave and promise never to return, like it was my fault. I did contact the Police and they took a report and told me it would be best for me not to discuss this to anyone. I left the following day for Munich instead of staying the extra 3 days I had planned. Crazy shit.
I've never been to Houston, but I can attest, that Albuquerque is a shithole. :D
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I've never been to Houston, but I can attest, that Albuquerque is a shithole. :D
mexican gang members everywhere
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true, but if not a place where it happens daily (like in some places) chances are much less of it happening
in some places (baltimore, chicago, detroit, philly) you'd be dumb to not own some sort of lethal (or paralyzing) protection in your home
The crime rate is high in these cities for sure. I would not choose to live in any of those places for a number of reasons, including the high crime rate.
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crime in my town:
Crime rate in my town.
Crime Rate
(per 1,000 residents)
0.93
8.82
9.75
POPULATION: 26,756
Number of Crimes
VIOLENT = 25 PROPERTY = 236 TOTAL = 261
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lots of joggers around here, only they are really out jogging, not lootin' hootin' & hollerin'
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lots of joggers around here, only they are really out jogging, not lootin' hootin' & hollerin'
Those joggers are a different breed :D
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BREAKING NEWS - The New York Times
The three white men arrested in the killing of Ahmaud Arbery, a black man who was chased while jogging in Georgia, were indicted on murder charges.
Wednesday, June 24, 2020 4:50 PM EST
The men — Gregory McMichael, 64; his son Travis McMichael, 34; and their neighbor William Bryan, 50 — were arrested and charged last month with murder and other charges in connection with Mr. Arbery’s death, which prompted nationwide protests and indignation, particularly after a graphic video of his Feb. 23 killing was released online.
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I was robbed at knife point by some refugees in Baden-Baden Germany in 2016, a very nice place to live. It can happen anywhere I guess. When it happen the owner of the establishment I was in approached me and told me to leave immediately; apparently the refugees are protected there and me being an American it was useless to contact the authorities. He made me leave and promise never to return, like it was my fault. I did contact the Police and they took a report and told me it would be best for me not to discuss this to anyone. I left the following day for Munich instead of staying the extra 3 days I had planned. Crazy shit.
;D ;D ;D Angela Merkel muslim grandkids rob yaa ...................