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Title: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: climber on June 26, 2007, 01:11:02 PM
Should we let this guy get away with having his pictures (possibly) immortalised on Wikipedia?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nbodybuilder.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nbodybuilder.jpg)

The following pages on the English Wikipedia link to this file (pages on other projects are not listed):

    * Human abdomen
    * Bodybuilding
    * Muscle
    * Muscular system
    * Physical exercise
    * Skeletal muscle
    * Physical fitness
    * Striation
    * Muscle tone
    * General fitness training
    * Muscle hypertrophy

I vote: NO

Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: xpac2 on June 26, 2007, 01:12:30 PM
NO
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: davidpaul on June 26, 2007, 01:14:15 PM
Yes he personifies modern bodybuilding. 8)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: JasonH on June 26, 2007, 01:15:36 PM
I actually think it's funny as fcuk and fair play to Adonis for getting in there and hijacking it all.

If it bothers you so much, why don't you alter the pictures? I thought that's what Wikipedia was for?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: davidpaul on June 26, 2007, 01:16:39 PM
I actually think it's funny as fcuk and fair play to Adonis for getting in there and hijacking it all.

If it bothers you so much, why don't you alter the pictures? I thought that's what Wikipedia was for?

Hes an editor on there, or whateva you call it.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: donrhummy on June 26, 2007, 01:17:34 PM
I agree no. But I tried removing it (with explanation) and wikidudeman put it back up and said it belonged. Personally I think he's TA but if enough people complain, they'll eventually come down.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: JasonH on June 26, 2007, 01:18:45 PM
Early bird gets the worm.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: climber on June 26, 2007, 01:19:17 PM
I agree no. But I tried removing it (with explanation) and wikidudeman put it back up and said it belonged. Personally I think he's TA but if enough people complain, they'll eventually come down.

if we can get enough people in this thread together saying they want it removed we can organise getting his image removed from Wikipedia.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on June 26, 2007, 01:25:28 PM
Well it depends...he is not a bodybuilder unless he steps on stage and competes... im not talking about the few guys on getbig, that contest is a joke.  He doesnt need to be a champion, just compete.  Either that, or put up a real competitive bodybuilder's picture
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: UK Gold on June 26, 2007, 01:25:59 PM
if we can get enough people in this thread together saying they want it removed we can organise getting his image removed from Wikipedia.
Why do you give a shit, 'climber' ::)

Is it because he has achieved more in bodybuilding than you could in a million lifetimes?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: climber on June 26, 2007, 01:28:41 PM
Is it because he has achieved more in bodybuilding than you could in a million lifetimes?

I'm not a (competitive) bodybuilder and never will be. It doesn't interest me. And, if he has never competed then he has not achieved a single thing in bodybuilding. I'm doing this because he has bad character.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: davidpaul on June 26, 2007, 01:30:09 PM
Well it depends...he is not a bodybuilder unless he steps on stage and competes... im not talking about the few guys on getbig, that contest is a joke.  He doesnt need to be a champion, just compete.  Either that, or put up a real competitive bodybuilder's picture

He has more recognition than you,

what does that say about your place in the hardcore bodybuilding fraternity?

Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: UK Gold on June 26, 2007, 01:34:12 PM
I'm not a (competitive) bodybuilder and never will be. It doesn't interest me. And, if he has not ever competed then he has not achieved a single thing in bodybuilding. I'm doing this because he has bad character.
Why does he have a "bad character?" His only flaw is the occasional white lie; its not like he sells crack or beats women.

Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Matt C on June 26, 2007, 01:38:37 PM
TA asked to have his picture on wikipedia then later spoke as if he had no idea how it got there.  TA has proven himself to be a liar which hurts his credibility and wikipedia should not be posting pictures of people just because they ask - their credibility is hurt by that too.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Bluto on June 26, 2007, 01:42:13 PM
Should we let this guy get away with having his pictures (possibly) immortalised on Wikipedia?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nbodybuilder.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nbodybuilder.jpg)
The following pages on the English Wikipedia link to this file (pages on other projects are not listed):
    * Human abdomen
    * Bodybuilding
    * Muscle
    * Muscular system
    * Physical exercise
    * Skeletal muscle
    * Physical fitness
    * Striation
    * Muscle tone
    * General fitness training
    * Muscle hypertrophy
*Lord of the Rings - Gollum
I vote: NO



Fixed.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: davidpaul on June 26, 2007, 01:43:37 PM
TA asked to have his picture on wikipedia then later spoke as if he had no idea how it got there.  TA has proven himself to be a liar which hurts his credibility and wikipedia should not be posting pictures of people just because they ask - their credibility is hurt by that too.

TA doesn't lie, he stretches the truth. 8)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on June 26, 2007, 01:44:14 PM
Should we let this guy get away with having his pictures (possibly) immortalised on Wikipedia?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nbodybuilder.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nbodybuilder.jpg)
The following pages on the English Wikipedia link to this file (pages on other projects are not listed):
    * Human abdomen
    * Bodybuilding
    * Muscle
    * Muscular system
    * Physical exercise
    * Skeletal muscle
    * Physical fitness
    * Striation
    * Muscle tone
    * General fitness training
    * Muscle hypertrophy

I vote: NO


Epic jealousy
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Bluto on June 26, 2007, 01:52:20 PM
I had to look up what Wikipedia has to say about me:

"Bluto is a large, bearded,, musclebound man. He mostly uses his physical brawn to accomplish what he is trying to do, but does display some ability for tactical planning. Neither Popeye and Olive Oyl, nor any other characters, think of him as anything more than a worthless scoundrel"

 ;D
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: climber on June 26, 2007, 01:52:32 PM
Epic jealousy


There is no jealousy here. I, and a lot of others, just believe that there is definitely someone out there who deserves the honour of being on Wikipedia a lot more than The True Adonis does.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: MAXX on June 26, 2007, 01:52:50 PM
it says "bodybuilder Adam Abeles posing"

dude has never competed in bodybuilding.

but. he did a pretty good jobb on the information on bodybuilding, history etc. so if nobody else wants to do it i guess we will have to settle for having him on there lol
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on June 26, 2007, 02:00:24 PM
There is no jealousy here. I, and a lot of others, just believe that there is definitely someone out there who deserves the honour of being on Wikipedia a lot more than The True Adonis does.
Would you suggest we put up someone with a shaved head, goatee, and gh gut with obvious signs of steroid abuse?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: dr.chimps on June 26, 2007, 02:03:50 PM
I actually think it's funny as fcuk and fair play to Adonis for getting in there and hijacking it all.

If it bothers you so much, why don't you alter the pictures? I thought that's what Wikipedia was for?
LOL. I absolutely agree. He's crazy allright. Too bad he can't use his lunacy for good. He'll probably crash wikipedia one of these days with his meddling. 
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: climber on June 26, 2007, 02:04:18 PM
Would you suggest we put up someone with a shaved head, goatee, and gh gut with obvious signs of steroid abuse?

Why not? Someone respected with (mainstream) name recognition would be good.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: pobrecito on June 26, 2007, 02:04:53 PM
Who cares?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Special Ed on June 26, 2007, 02:05:02 PM
I have no objection to it. Adam obviously lifts and diets and that makes him a bodybuilder. Bodybuilders are not defined by competition. Adam's hustle got him the wikipedia gig and for that reason he deserves it. Life is what you make of it. I don't see any Pro Bodybuilders clamoring to have their photo on the wikipedia 'steroids' page.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: dorkeroo on June 26, 2007, 02:07:20 PM
I actually think it's funny as fcuk and fair play to Adonis for getting in there and hijacking it all.

If it bothers you so much, why don't you alter the pictures? I thought that's what Wikipedia was for?

I agree
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on June 26, 2007, 02:41:04 PM
Why not? Someone respected with (mainstream) name recognition would be good.
People like you are the reason bodybuilding isn't mainstream. You are the kind of person who would pick art atwood over Bob Paris.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Kegdrainer on June 26, 2007, 03:11:47 PM
as much as adonis is a goon, and a fucked up message board character (though im sure the character seeps into his actual persona in real life because it is way more interesting than he is personally) you have to hand it to him for pulling this off.

its like cheering for the bad guy in wrestling.  You love him because you hate him.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on June 26, 2007, 04:57:47 PM
He has more recognition than you,

what does that say about your place in the hardcore bodybuilding fraternity?



You think i care about the recognition he gets from all these retards on getbig 99% of which are out of shape?  As far as REAL bodybuilders, my recognition outweighs his by a mile.  Nice try, in your own little world is the only place he matters more than me in bodybuilding
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: jaejonna on June 26, 2007, 05:00:30 PM
You think i care about the recognition he gets from all these retards on getbig 99% of which are out of shape?  As far as REAL bodybuilders, my recognition outweighs his by a mile.  Nice try, in your own little world is the only place he matters more than me in bodybuilding
You couldnt hold the True Adonis' gym bag ...he is a fucking legend...your just a legend with the guys who go to your alternative 'bar'
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: davidpaul on June 26, 2007, 05:01:49 PM
You think i care about the recognition he gets from all these retards on getbig 99% of which are out of shape?  As far as REAL bodybuilders, my recognition outweighs his by a mile.  Nice try, in your own little world is the only place he matters more than me in bodybuilding

Adonis is known, your not,

how does that make you feel?

make you wanna up the protein intake?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Camel Jockey on June 26, 2007, 05:02:40 PM
What's wrong with it? He looks like a bodybuilder and is one, so what harm with his photo in wiki?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on June 26, 2007, 05:03:40 PM
What's wrong with it? He looks like a bodybuilder and is one, so what harm with his photo in wiki?

They are jealous
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: jaejonna on June 26, 2007, 05:03:57 PM
What's wrong with it? He looks like a bodybuilder and is one, so what harm with his photo in wiki?

plus the man put monster amount of time into making the 'TA' brand name.....
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Earl1972 on June 26, 2007, 05:04:21 PM
I love the fact that his picture is on there :)

E
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Camel Jockey on June 26, 2007, 05:06:00 PM
They are jealous

I'm not the guy's biggest fan, but honestly, he's a good representation of what a natural bber can aspire to and that's the truth. I'd much rather prefer adonis' photo being there over some pro with a huge gh belly.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on June 26, 2007, 05:19:05 PM
Adonis is known, your not,

how does that make you feel?

make you wanna up the protein intake?

Well known il give him, but liked? No.  Respected?  Not a long shot.  Im known, respected, and liked. 

I dont do the whole tons of protein thing, i eat like Adonis offseason (or i should say he eats like me, iv been eating junk since i was 2 lol) im just leaner with half his effort hehe.  I WILL give him props as he does lift hard and watch HOW he eats.  More than i can say for you and SF.

I feel if i had a workout with him, hed push me.  Now you guys.... it would be laughable
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: pumpher on June 26, 2007, 05:23:25 PM
I have no objection to it. Adam obviously lifts and diets and that makes him a bodybuilder. Bodybuilders are not defined by competition. Adam's hustle got him the wikipedia gig and for that reason he deserves it. Life is what you make of it. I don't see any Pro Bodybuilders clamoring to have their photo on the wikipedia 'steroids' page.

I agree!
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Bigger Business on June 27, 2007, 04:25:18 AM
Adam obviously lifts and diets and that makes him a bodybuilder.

by this definition, are you a bodybuilder?















Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: eddiebubble on June 27, 2007, 04:42:24 AM
Well it depends...he is not a bodybuilder unless he steps on stage and competes... im not talking about the few guys on getbig, that contest is a joke.  He doesnt need to be a champion, just compete.  Either that, or put up a real competitive bodybuilder's picture

Goodrum competes on stage and he doesn't look remotely like a bodybuilder and if his picture was there instead of TA's then people would just laugh it.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on June 27, 2007, 07:51:23 AM
Goodrum competes on stage and he doesn't look remotely like a bodybuilder and if his picture was there instead of TA's then people would just laugh it.

valid point
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: davidpaul on June 27, 2007, 07:55:26 AM
Well known il give him, but liked? No.  Respected?  Not a long shot.  Im known, respected, and liked. 

I dont do the whole tons of protein thing, i eat like Adonis offseason (or i should say he eats like me, iv been eating junk since i was 2 lol) im just leaner with half his effort hehe.  I WILL give him props as he does lift hard and watch HOW he eats.  More than i can say for you and SF.

I feel if i had a workout with him, hed push me.  Now you guys.... it would be laughable

You're known?

The users of your local neighbourhood gloryholes don't count "bro", althought I do agree, you are most likely very popular with them.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on June 27, 2007, 07:57:44 AM
Well known il give him, but liked? No.  Respected?  Not a long shot.  Im known, respected, and liked. 

I dont do the whole tons of protein thing, i eat like Adonis offseason (or i should say he eats like me, iv been eating junk since i was 2 lol) im just leaner with half his effort hehe.  I WILL give him props as he does lift hard and watch HOW he eats.  More than i can say for you and SF.

I feel if i had a workout with him, hed push me.  Now you guys.... it would be laughable
You are trying too hard man.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: D.L. 5 on June 27, 2007, 08:11:13 AM
read my signature for my answer.

also the leafy bug is the natural idol!
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: wala on June 27, 2007, 08:18:25 AM
There is no jealousy here. I, and a lot of others, just believe that there is definitely someone out there who deserves the honour of being on Wikipedia a lot more than The True Adonis does.

I could do a better job! lol
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chainsaw on June 27, 2007, 08:35:30 AM
This freakin guy should post under "Mcdonalds".  And if he was a real man, he would post his 112 225lb deadlift up there too. 

Just goes to show you all, Adam is one thing and one thing only.  An attention whore, and you know what, I would be cool with it if he wasn't misguiding and lying to everyone.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: NJ_Slinky on June 27, 2007, 08:38:38 AM
Leave it up, brings teh funneh.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 08:46:53 AM
Well known il give him, but liked? No.  Respected?  Not a long shot.  Im known, respected, and liked. 

I dont do the whole tons of protein thing, i eat like Adonis offseason (or i should say he eats like me, iv been eating junk since i was 2 lol) im just leaner with half his effort hehe.  I WILL give him props as he does lift hard and watch HOW he eats.  More than i can say for you and SF.

I feel if i had a workout with him, hed push me.  Now you guys.... it would be laughable
Keep training.

Perhaps one day you will attain some level of success.  Anything I can do to help you out, let me know.  ;)

You will make it one day.  Just not today.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on June 27, 2007, 09:02:56 AM
Keep training.

Perhaps one day you will attain some level of success.  Anything I can do to help you out, let me know.  ;)

You will make it one day.  Just not today.

lol you sure are a character.  Do you by any chance know Tres Bennett?  He is a sales rep for our company down in the Carolina's.  We gotta grab a workout sometime, i wonder if you are the same in person as you are on the boards.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 09:07:44 AM
lol you sure are a character.  Do you by any chance know Tres Bennett?  He is a sales rep for our company down in the Carolina's.  We gotta grab a workout sometime, i wonder if you are the same in person as you are on the boards.

What company do you work with?  We can surely work out.  I wonder if you will be able to do the running portion of the training?   Can you run still?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: EL Mariachi on June 27, 2007, 09:19:23 AM
ha ha ha if this is real , then adonis is truly a master ;D
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: bebop396 on June 27, 2007, 09:43:36 AM
Someone changed the pic to gustavo badell
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 09:50:32 AM
 ???
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on June 27, 2007, 12:05:56 PM
What company do you work with?  We can surely work out.  I wonder if you will be able to do the running portion of the training?   Can you run still?

Sprints or distance?  I can do a 2 mile run, but sprints are out of the question at 230lbs in the summer heat haha.  I work for Gaspari Nutrition, Trey is one of our sales reps and promotes the Junior USAs every year.  Great guy. I dont normally run in my workouts, as i am more concerned with bulking right now, and it would cut into my calories. 
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: natural al on June 27, 2007, 01:12:32 PM
read my signature for my answer.

also the leafy bug is the natural idol!

gimmick account????
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: climber on June 27, 2007, 04:41:30 PM
Oh well, looks like TA's not hated that much on here after all...
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Special Ed on June 27, 2007, 05:24:45 PM
by this definition, are you a bodybuilder?
I am indeed. But don't hate me because I'm natural, supplement-free, with low testosterone levels and still crush you.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: jason armstrong on June 27, 2007, 06:42:21 PM
lol you sure are a character.  Do you by any chance know Tres Bennett?  He is a sales rep for our company down in the Carolina's.  We gotta grab a workout sometime, i wonder if you are the same in person as you are on the boards.
he doesn't know anybody bro he got fired from his telemarketing job for being on getbig all day he's  ascared sad little 30 year old kid living at home with mama! he hides in his bedroom all day...
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on June 30, 2007, 04:35:31 PM
Someone changed the pic to gustavo badell

Someone on MuscularDevelopment.com gave me the Gustavo picture to use since he took it and so I replaced the picture of "Trueadonis" and moved it to the middle of the article. I thought that would solve the whole controversy but I guess it didn't. Frankly I don't see the problem. The folks at Wikipedia like the image, We've explained why the image is relevant to the articles it's being used in, Yet anonymous vandals still come and erase the image citing previously refuted arguments.

Please don't vandalize wikipedia, If you believe the image doesn't belong there for reason relevant to wikipedia policy then make a user name, explain clearly why the image should be removed on the articles talk pages, gather a consensus, then the image will be removed. Attempting to vandalize the image or remove it without justification or to gather false consensus from a few users on this message board because you don't like the image for personal reasons won't get you anywhere. Wikipedia isn't a democracy and attempting to "vote" on it won't get it removed, You need to explain your reasons for wanting it to be removed and convince other editors at wikipedia, that's how wikipedia works.

The image is used on the following pages...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_abdomen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_abdomen)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_system)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_exercise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_exercise)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeletal_muscle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeletal_muscle)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_fitness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_fitness)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striation)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_tone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_tone)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_fitness_training (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_fitness_training)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_hypertrophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_hypertrophy)

If you want the image removed from one or more of the pages then create a name for wikipedia, edit the talk pages of each article it is placed on by pressing the "+" button at the top, explain your reasoning with novel arguments that coincide with wikipedia policy, sign your name at the end by typing ~~~~. Remember, I'm just here to help, and if you have any valid reasons for the image being removed I want to hear them on wikipedia.



Thanks.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: MAXX on June 30, 2007, 05:26:15 PM
Wikidude isn't it funny that you have the same intrests listed as TA has.

Evolution , Carl Sagan, Bodybuilding etc.

You can stop pretending now we all know Wiki is you TA
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 30, 2007, 05:29:16 PM
Wikidude isn't it funny that you have the same intrests listed as TA has.

Evolution , Carl Sagan, Bodybuilding etc.

You can stop pretending now we all know Wiki is you TA
Enlightened minds tend to think alike.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Undercover Supp Guy on June 30, 2007, 05:34:22 PM
Good job Adam, getting in Wikipedia is today's version of getting on TV or in the newspaper..
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 30, 2007, 05:37:04 PM
Good job Adam, getting in Wikipedia is today's version of getting on TV or in the newspaper..
No problem my friend!

I had the number 3 video on Youtube for a while also!
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 30, 2007, 06:06:09 PM
No problem my friend!

I had the number 3 video on Youtube for a while also!

You do realize that while many people know who you are and are somewhat amused by your delusional antics, not a single person respects you or would want to be you, right?   You are the white Vince Goodrum.   ::)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: kiwiol on June 30, 2007, 06:38:24 PM
Oh well, looks like TA's not hated that much on here after all...

No one hates TA. We just feel sorry for him cause he's stuck with that face ;D
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on June 30, 2007, 06:40:39 PM
Oh well, looks like TA's not hated that much on here after all...
heh, I wouldn't go that far. He may be tolerated, but I wouldn't say he's liked ;)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 30, 2007, 06:43:45 PM
heh, I wouldn't go that far. He may be tolerated, but I wouldn't say he's liked ;)


He's kinda like the class retard.  Nobody really hates him per se, but nobody actually likes him either, and he usually annoys the fucck out of most people.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on June 30, 2007, 06:45:26 PM

He's kinda like the class retard.  Nobody really hates him per se, but nobody actually likes him either, and he usually annoys the fucck out of most people.
exactly, he always takes the opposite of a popular opinon and argues his side until the death, no matter how stupid he looks, continuously. It's amusing and sad at the same time :'(






more amusing though :D
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: onlyme on June 30, 2007, 09:18:25 PM
Wikidude isn't it funny that you have the same intrests listed as TA has.

Evolution , Carl Sagan, Bodybuilding etc.

You can stop pretending now we all know Wiki is you TA

True

No one hates TA. We just feel sorry for him cause he's stuck with that face ;D

True

You do realize that while many people know who you are and are somewhat amused by your delusional antics, not a single person respects you or would want to be you, right?   You are the white Vince Goodrum.   ::)

True


He's kinda like the class retard.  Nobody really hates him per se, but nobody actually likes him either, and he usually annoys the fucck out of most people.

True

exactly, he always takes the opposite of a popular opinon and argues his side until the death, no matter how stupid he looks, continuously. It's amusing and sad at the same time :'(






more amusing though :D

True

And yes he is this Wiki guy or it is his girlfriend.  He spends 80% of his day on the Internet trying to be someone. 
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 30, 2007, 09:25:03 PM
  He spends 80% of his day on the Internet trying to be someone. 

Maybe we should hook him up with BCH...   she spends most of her time "trying to be someone" as well.  The two of them seem to have a lot in common.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: jason armstrong on July 01, 2007, 06:54:20 AM
Enlightened minds tend to think alike.
Looks like you're gearing up for another big run of your bullshit hate and anti-bodybuilding propoganda. Adam, if you're still under 170 pounds at your height, nothing's gonna have changed. Nobody's gonna give a shit, no matter how lean, or how unconventional your methods. End of story.

I'm guessing that once you do achieve the most awe-inspiring, functional and universally-appreciable physiques on the planet, that you will stop saying negative things about people on the internet on a perpetual basis. Your behavior is never seen among the truly successful.

I wanna ask you, Adam...what price would be too much to pay for that accomplishment? Of having built the most admired physique on the planet? Living to 70 instead of 90 or 100? "Risk" of incarceration? People suspecting that you achieved that physique the "easy," or according to them, "immoral" way? What if steroids or diet/training techniques that you do not currently employ were actually the "only" way to achieve what you are ultimately wanting to achieve? Would you be willing to do "what it takes" then, without the ability to claim any of the methods involved as being of your own unique conception? Would having the best physique on the planet be enough to make you feel special or appreciated? Or could it be that you don't truly believe you have the genetics to create the true physique of your dreams, and that you feel you'll need to produce your best presentation whose shortcomings will be excused because of it's being "pretty good, considering?" For example, "considering" that you didn't really even try. "Considering" that you ate whatever you wanted to. "Considering" that you did no cardio. "Considering" that you didn't even eat protein, much less take steroids. "Considering" that you don't even care about bodybuilding anyway.

Could this be your motivation here? Lately you've tried to explain that you are only motivated to "help" because of your "care" for these people. I want you to ask yourself how "helping" these people could ever be considered enabling them to do something that they, by definition, needed you to be able to achieve, when you will not have indicated that you needed THEM for any part of your existence, other than the praise they stand to offer you, on account of what would then be perceived by them as your superiority to them. You are only seeking to "help" yourself. No one wants to achieve anything they don't suspect they could have ultimately figured out on their own, regardless of how much your "help" stands to improve the quality of their lives. They must be able to assume themselves in some way responsible for their own success.

Show some humility. Show some vulnerability. Show that you're fallible. Admit mistakes. Acknowledge defeat. Where's the deadlift video? Just say that you thought you could do it but couldn't. We'll understand. Your having approximated your abilities incorrectly does not mean that you are a failure. But we're going to assume that until you just say you were wrong on issues such as this one, that you yourself do innately believe yourself to be a failure and have an very self-limiting inability to consciously face that you may have been prone to error. It shows a blatant inability to be true to YOURSELF and for that reason no one is able to trust your competency. This is universal law. Hitler had this same inability. In the end, he killed himself rather than face that he may have been wrong in some of his fundamental-most assumptions, and in denial of this, he waged war with the world until the bitter end, took many innocent lives, and hurt many of the survivors in unspeakable ways in the process. The world was vulnerable to this at the time because it hadn't seen someone appear so sure of himself to that extent and be wrong before. We now know that insanity has no boundaries and your ego, like Hitler's, knows no boundaries. I believe that you would destroy us all before admitting that you were anything but the most superior individual on the planet. Look how you left Tweeter hanging. When you're wrong, you just disappear until you think we've forgotten. Thank God most of us have the sense enough not to listen to you. You are a hateful, selfish, jealous person and you are a festering sore on the sport of bodybuilding.

Until you've learned better how to "play the game," Adam, just go away. Please. You are not concerned for anyone's health, or the betterment of society. You attack people here because they make you feel inferior, and your posts here simply reinforce the legitimacy of the notion that you indeed are. Recognize that nothing truly great has ever been achieved in strict compliance with the stated moral values of a society, but rather by guidance of the much more trustworthy and heartfelt moral compass held personally by the greats having achieved these feats worthy of mention and demanding of our most genuine appreciation.

Meldown, hope this helps, I'm just saying, etc. I just hope you'll consider some of this and STFU until you've got something positive to say.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: kiwiol on July 01, 2007, 07:41:12 AM
True

True

True

True

True

And yes he is this Wiki guy or it is his girlfriend.  He spends 80% of his day on the Internet trying to be someone. 

Still training hard, Onlymen? 8)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: kiwiol on July 01, 2007, 07:44:15 AM
Looks like you're gearing up for another big run of your bullshit hate and anti-bodybuilding propoganda. Adam, if you're still under 170 pounds at your height, nothing's gonna have changed. Nobody's gonna give a shit, no matter how lean, or how unconventional your methods. End of story.

I'm guessing that once you do achieve the most awe-inspiring, functional and universally-appreciable physiques on the planet, that you will stop saying negative things about people on the internet on a perpetual basis. Your behavior is never seen among the truly successful.

I wanna ask you, Adam...what price would be too much to pay for that accomplishment? Of having built the most admired physique on the planet? Living to 70 instead of 90 or 100? "Risk" of incarceration? People suspecting that you achieved that physique the "easy," or according to them, "immoral" way? What if steroids or diet/training techniques that you do not currently employ were actually the "only" way to achieve what you are ultimately wanting to achieve? Would you be willing to do "what it takes" then, without the ability to claim any of the methods involved as being of your own unique conception? Would having the best physique on the planet be enough to make you feel special or appreciated? Or could it be that you don't truly believe you have the genetics to create the true physique of your dreams, and that you feel you'll need to produce your best presentation whose shortcomings will be excused because of it's being "pretty good, considering?" For example, "considering" that you didn't really even try. "Considering" that you ate whatever you wanted to. "Considering" that you did no cardio. "Considering" that you didn't even eat protein, much less take steroids. "Considering" that you don't even care about bodybuilding anyway.

Could this be your motivation here? Lately you've tried to explain that you are only motivated to "help" because of your "care" for these people. I want you to ask yourself how "helping" these people could ever be considered enabling them to do something that they, by definition, needed you to be able to achieve, when you will not have indicated that you needed THEM for any part of your existence, other than the praise they stand to offer you, on account of what would then be perceived by them as your superiority to them. You are only seeking to "help" yourself. No one wants to achieve anything they don't suspect they could have ultimately figured out on their own, regardless of how much your "help" stands to improve the quality of their lives. They must be able to assume themselves in some way responsible for their own success.

Show some humility. Show some vulnerability. Show that you're fallible. Admit mistakes. Acknowledge defeat. Where's the deadlift video? Just say that you thought you could do it but couldn't. We'll understand. Your having approximated your abilities incorrectly does not mean that you are a failure. But we're going to assume that until you just say you were wrong on issues such as this one, that you yourself do innately believe yourself to be a failure and have an very self-limiting inability to consciously face that you may have been prone to error. It shows a blatant inability to be true to YOURSELF and for that reason no one is able to trust your competency. This is universal law. Hitler had this same inability. In the end, he killed himself rather than face that he may have been wrong in some of his fundamental-most assumptions, and in denial of this, he waged war with the world until the bitter end, took many innocent lives, and hurt many of the survivors in unspeakable ways in the process. The world was vulnerable to this at the time because it hadn't seen someone appear so sure of himself to that extent and be wrong before. We now know that insanity has no boundaries and your ego, like Hitler's, knows no boundaries. I believe that you would destroy us all before admitting that you were anything but the most superior individual on the planet. Look how you left Tweeter hanging. When you're wrong, you just disappear until you think we've forgotten. Thank God most of us have the sense enough not to listen to you. You are a hateful, selfish, jealous person and you are a festering sore on the sport of bodybuilding.

Until you've learned better how to "play the game," Adam, just go away. Please. You are not concerned for anyone's health, or the betterment of society. You attack people here because they make you feel inferior, and your posts here simply reinforce the legitimacy of the notion that you indeed are. Recognize that nothing truly great has ever been achieved in strict compliance with the stated moral values of a society, but rather by guidance of the much more trustworthy and heartfelt moral compass held personally by the greats having achieved these feats worthy of mention and demanding of our most genuine appreciation.

Meldown, hope this helps, I'm just saying, etc. I just hope you'll consider some of this and STFU until you've got something positive to say.


Are you saying you like the penis, 'Jason Armstrong'?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: dr.chimps on July 01, 2007, 10:42:37 AM
Still training hard, Onlymen? 8)
LOL. Jabba doin' the hammer curls. Nice work, Kiwi. :D

/gotta post this down in the alphabets in that best pics thread, tho. afterall, it's for posterity.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: kiwiol on July 01, 2007, 11:06:50 AM
LOL. Jabba doin' the hammer curls. Nice work, Kiwi. :D

/gotta post this down in the alphabets in that best pics thread, tho. afterall, it's for posterity.

I don't know photoshop dude. It's Knny187's artwork. The man's a legend 8)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Tapeworm on July 01, 2007, 11:08:57 AM
LOL. Jabba doin' the hammer curls. Nice work, Kiwi. :D

Those 25kgs are a respectable weight dammit >:(  

Ya, I got a pair o those.  Great for warmups.  :)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 01, 2007, 09:20:49 PM
I don't understand it. Every once in a while someone posts a thread somewhere complaining about that picture on wikipedia, the picture gets sporadic vandalism which is instantly reverted, things go back to normal until someone does it again. If your complaints about the image are legitimate then why can't you register a wikipedia account, come up with a good, clear, concise reason to why the image must be removed, gather a consensus on the talk page of each article listed, get the image removed?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Alex23 on July 01, 2007, 09:23:32 PM
I don't understand it. Every once in a while someone posts a thread somewhere complaining about that picture on wikipedia, the picture gets sporadic vandalism which is instantly reverted, things go back to normal until someone does it again. If your complaints about the image are legitimate then why can't you register a wikipedia account, come up with a good, clear, concise reason to why the image must be removed, gather a consensus on the talk page of each article listed, get the image removed?

STFU Adam Abeles. I talked with Jeff from wiki last week. They know what you're up to.

Self or aquaintance promotion is not tolerated, you should know that.

Especially a Rat face like yours.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 01, 2007, 09:35:35 PM
We're different people. I'm just trying to help, if you truly believe the images should be removed I am explaining how it can be done.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 09:41:20 PM
We're different people. I'm just trying to help, if you truly believe the images should be removed I am explaining how it can be done.
Hi TA
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 01, 2007, 09:53:58 PM
I'm not TrueAdonis. If you don't believe me, fine. However even if I were him, my adding the images wouldn't even be a conflict of interest because there is no information about him, just a picture which suits the articles it's being used in which happens to be free. How could it be promotion if there isn't even a name associated with the images? I don't get that.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2007, 09:55:58 PM
I'm no TrueAdonis. If you don't believe me, fine. However even if I were him, my adding the images wouldn't even be a conflict of interest because there is no information about him, just a picture which suits the articles it's being used in which happens to be free. How could it be promotion if there isn't even a name associated with the images? I don't get that.
show me one striation with this image

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striation
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 01, 2007, 09:56:41 PM
His whole body?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2007, 09:58:15 PM
His whole body?
hahahahahaha did you read the definition of striation? have you ever seen a striated body part? oh man you are f'd up.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 01, 2007, 10:04:58 PM
hahahahahaha did you read the definition of striation? have you ever seen a striated body part? oh man you are f'd up.

I don't understand the need for insults. Looking at the picture, His arms, legs, chest and abdomen are all striated.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2007, 10:13:29 PM
I don't understand the need for insults. Looking at the picture, His arms, legs, chest and abdomen are all striated.
no they are not, why are you so intent on getting that pic onto every page possible? this is the first pic I saw, see the lines going across his chest to the center? THOSE are STRIATIONS, where are those on that pic you have posted?

Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 10:14:33 PM
no they are not, why are you so intent on getting that pic onto every page possible? this is the first pic I saw, see the lines going across his chest to the center? THOSE are STRIATIONS, where are those on that pic you have posted?


cuz Wikidudeman is TA...
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2007, 10:15:17 PM
cuz Wikidudeman is TA...
I figured as much, just trying to prove a point, think he got it?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: xpac2 on July 01, 2007, 10:19:27 PM
I don't understand the need for insults. Looking at the picture, His arms, legs, chest and abdomen are all striated.

I hope you are TA because if you aren't then your fetish with his is really creepy and gay.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 01, 2007, 10:20:52 PM
no they are not, why are you so intent on getting that pic onto every page possible? this is the first pic I saw, see the lines going across his chest to the center? THOSE are STRIATIONS, where are those on that pic you have posted?

I'm not going to argue what is or what isn't a "striation" here, I don't have time for that. If you think the image shouldn't be there then please discuss it on the talk page of the article it's being used on. Make your arguments there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striation)

Sign your name at the end by typing "~~~~", without the quotes of course.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2007, 10:23:56 PM
I'm not going to argue what is or what isn't a "striation" here, I don't have time for that. If you think the image shouldn't be there then please discuss it on the talk page of the article it's being used on. Make your arguments there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striation)

Sign your name at the end by typing "~~~~", without the quotes of course.
you're not going to argue about striations on a bodybuilding board? you'd rather do it on wikipedia? WTF? ::) seriously if you can't see the difference between those two pics, then you are blind. You have no idea what a striation is TA and I seriously doubt, no matter how lean you think you are, you'll ever have a striation, because it requires muscle mass.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 10:24:24 PM
I hope you are TA because if you aren't then your fetish with his is really creepy and gay.
lol...true!
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 01, 2007, 10:26:17 PM
you're not going to argue about striations on a bodybuilding board? you'd rather do it on wikipedia? WTF? ::) seriously if you can't see the difference between those two pics, then you are blind. You have no idea what a striation is TA and I seriously doubt, no matter how lean you think you are, you'll ever have a striation, because it requires muscle mass.

I see the difference between the images and I know what a striation is. I won't argue it here because I see no point in doing so. If you want to argue it concerning the placement of that specific image then please do it on the articles talk page, I will discuss it there with you if you want.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2007, 10:30:33 PM
I see the difference between the images and I know what a striation is. I won't argue it here because I see no point in doing so. If you want to argue it concerning the placement of that specific image then please do it on the articles talk page, I will discuss it there with you if you want.
no I don't want to. I see no point, your obsession with posting TA's pic is downright disgusting :-X you plant that pic anywhere and everywhere you can, you put that pic along an article about striations, knowing full well he has NO VISABLE STRIATIONS, yet there it is. Either you are him or you are obsessed with him. I won't argue with you on Wkipedia or here. It is unhealthy that you are that into TA, you can't stop yourself.



I hope you are TA because if you aren't then your fetish with his is really creepy and gay.
first time I've agreed with xpac2.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 10:30:46 PM
I see the difference between the images and I know what a striation is. I won't argue it here because I see no point in doing so. If you want to argue it concerning the placement of that specific image then please do it on the articles talk page, I will discuss it there with you if you want.
Hi TA
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 01, 2007, 10:36:50 PM
Ok, Well unless you can provide valid explanations for why the images need to be removed coinciding with wikipedia policy on wikipedia, then they will stay where they are. I'm not TrueAdonis, I'm not homosexual, I just want to use the best public domain images that are possible for Wikipedia and see no valid reason for them to be removed. If you want the images removed and believe you have a valid reason for having them removed then just follow the procedure I explained earlier and get a consensus to change them. I'm sure everyone on Wikipedia isn't "obsessed" with Trueadonis as you assert I am, so it shouldn't be a problem should it?

Until you follow wikipedia policy to get the images removed and stop vandalizing, they aren't going anywhere!
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2007, 10:38:10 PM
Jealousy never solves anything.

Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 10:38:23 PM
Ok, Well unless you can provide valid explanations for why the images need to be removed coinciding with wikipedia policy on wikipedia, then they will stay where they are. I'm not TrueAdonis, I'm not homosexual, I just want to use the best public domain images that are possible for Wikipedia and see no valid reason for them to be removed. If you want the images removed and believe you have a valid reason for having them removed then just follow the procedure I explained earlier and get a consensus to change them. I'm sure everyone on Wikipedia isn't "obsessed" with Trueadonis as you assert I am, so it shouldn't be a problem should it?

Until you follow wikipedia policy to get the images removed and stop vandalizing, they aren't going anywhere!
You want to lick TA's peepee...
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2007, 10:39:06 PM
Ok, Well unless you can provide valid explanations for why the images need to be removed coinciding with wikipedia policy on wikipedia, then they will stay where they are. I'm not TrueAdonis, I'm not homosexual, I just want to use the best public domain images that are possible for Wikipedia and see no valid reason for them to be removed. If you want the images removed and believe you have a valid reason for having them removed then just follow the procedure I explained earlier and get a consensus to change them. I'm sure everyone on Wikipedia isn't "obsessed" with Trueadonis as you assert I am, so it shouldn't be a problem should it?

Until you follow wikipedia policy to get the images removed and stop vandalizing, they aren't going anywhere!
I wouldn`t worry about it my friend.  They hate me because they are not me.  Plain and simple.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 10:39:40 PM
I wouldn`t worry about it my friend.  They hate me because they are not me.  Plain and simple.
You want to lick TA's peepee...
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2007, 10:40:53 PM
Ok, Well unless you can provide valid explanations for why the images need to be removed coinciding with wikipedia policy on wikipedia, then they will stay where they are. I'm not TrueAdonis, I'm not homosexual, I just want to use the best public domain images that are possible for Wikipedia  and see no valid reason for them to be removed. If you want the images removed and believe you have a valid reason for having them removed then just follow the procedure I explained earlier and get a consensus to change them. I'm sure everyone on Wikipedia isn't "obsessed" with Trueadonis as you assert I am, so it shouldn't be a problem should it?

Until you follow wikipedia policy to get the images removed and stop vandalizing, they aren't going anywhere!
they are not the best public image of a striated bodybuilder, that is valid enough reason. You should remove them yourself, for not knowing what a straition is.
Besides, most of the people on wikipedia, don't know what a striation is,just like you, so they wouldn't know what they were looking at with TA's pic,  how convienient ::)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 01, 2007, 10:40:58 PM
Jealousy never solves anything.



I offered to replace your image with one of theirs if they were more muscular and if they posted an image of themselves and released it to public domain...

Guess what? No one has ever posted one.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 10:46:34 PM
I offered to replace your image with one of theirs if they were more muscular and if they posted an image of themselves and released it to public domain...

Guess what? No one has ever posted one.
I have a solution: remove the current TA pictures until appropriate ones are found...


...oh wait, you're TA's peepee dirty lover, so that'll never happen.  ::)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 01, 2007, 10:46:42 PM
What about this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_tone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_tone)

Does he have no muscle tone either?

Not a bodybuilder, No striations, No muscle tone...

What about physical fitness?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_fitness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_fitness)

Is he physically fit?

I think your criticisms of the use of the image stem more from personal grudges against this person opposed to what's best for Wikipedia. This is why I feel I'm wasting my time attempting to rationalize with you.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 10:47:58 PM
What about this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_tone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_tone)

Does he have no muscle tone either?

Not a bodybuilder, No striations, No muscle tone...

What about physical fitness?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_fitness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_fitness)

Is he physically fit?

I think your criticisms of the use of the image stem more from personal grudges against this person opposed to what's best for Wikipedia. This is why I feel I'm wasting my time attempting to rationalize with you.
I have a solution: remove the current TA pictures until appropriate ones are found...


...oh wait, you're TA's peepee dirty lover, so that'll never happen.  ::)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2007, 10:49:20 PM
What about this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_tone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_tone)

Does he have no muscle tone either?

Not a bodybuilder, No striations, No muscle tone...

What about physical fitness?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_fitness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_fitness)

Is he physically fit?

I think your criticisms of the use of the image stem more from personal grudges against this person opposed to what's best for Wikipedia. This is why I feel I'm wasting my time attempting to rationalize with you.
hahah asshole, I'm not talking about muscle tone or physical fitness am I/

Damn you are stupid, STRIATIONS are no where to be seen on TA's body, deal with it.
I know he's your gay lover, but he's not your gay striated lover.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Alex23 on July 01, 2007, 10:50:23 PM
What about this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_tone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_tone)

Does he have no muscle tone either?

Not a bodybuilder, No striations, No muscle tone...

What about physical fitness?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_fitness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_fitness)

Is he physically fit?

I think your criticisms of the use of the image stem more from personal grudges against this person opposed to what's best for Wikipedia. This is why I feel I'm wasting my time attempting to rationalize with you.

Adam... no 3rd party would fight so hard to make a point. Unless it's their lover we're talking about.

That pic should go into a Chili's .99$ comercial. These chicken wings shoulders look delicious.


Hint: You spend countless number of hours online trying to "promote" your anti-social self. Maybe it's time to take a look at your life.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2007, 10:54:11 PM
Adam... no 3rd party would fight so hard to make a point. Unless it's their lover we're talking about.

That pic should go into a Chili's .99$ comercial. These chicken wings shoulders look delicious.


Hint: You spend countless number of hours online trying to "promote" your anti-social self. Maybe it's time to take a look at your life.  
haha beyond time Alex
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2007, 10:56:45 PM
Adam... no 3rd party would fight so hard to make a point. Unless it's their lover we're talking about.

That pic should go into a Chili's .99$ comercial. These chicken wings shoulders look delicious.


Hint: You spend countless number of hours online trying to "promote" your anti-social self. Maybe it's time to take a look at your life.
I think you are a bitter person.  You need to realize the scale of the Cosmos.  Perhaps you would then be humbled and then would refrain from such unfounded personal attacks.  I can educate you on Astronomical matters if you wish.  I am here to help.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 10:57:18 PM
I think you are a bitter person.  You need to realize the scale of the Cosmos.  Perhaps you would then be humbled and then would refrain from such unfounded personal attacks.  I can educate you on Astronomical matters if you wish.  I am here to help.
lol
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2007, 10:58:03 PM
I think you are a bitter person.  You need to realize the scale of the Cosmos.  Perhaps you would then be humbled and then would refrain from such unfounded personal attacks.  I can educate you on Astronomical matters if you wish.  I am here to help.
hahahahahaha :P
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: climber on July 01, 2007, 10:58:12 PM
The bottom line is that we don't know if Wikidudeman is TA. So there is no point accusing him. From the looks of Wikipedia articles related to bodybuilding Wikidudeman has been doing a great job on them. Lets get back to the point of the argument which is: Does TA deserve to have his picture on Wikipedia?

Can someone give Wikidudeman a better, more representative picture of a bodybuilder?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 10:58:49 PM
I think you are a bitter person.  You need to realize the scale of the Cosmos.  Perhaps you would then be humbled and then would refrain from such unfounded personal attacks.  I can educate you on Astronomical matters if you wish.  I am here to help.
I think we aught to replace the picture of Einstein on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicist with a picture of TA.

What say you all?

Wikidudeman, make it so!
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2007, 11:00:08 PM
The bottom line is that we don't know if Wikidudeman is TA. So there is no point accusing him. From the looks of Wikipedia articles related to bodybuilding Wikidudeman has been doing a great job on them. Lets get back to the point of the argument which is: Does TA deserve to have his picture on Wikipedia?

Can someone give Wikidudeman a better, more representative picture of a bodybuilder?
his pic fits some of the metioned articles, it does not fit the striation article.

not worth the effort, in the past every pic someone has tried to give wikidouche, he's rejected with some copyright or ownership excuse, hmm imagine that.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Alex23 on July 01, 2007, 11:03:20 PM
his pic fits some of the metioned articles, it does not fit the striation article.

not worth the effort, in the past every pic someone has tried to give wikidouche, he's rejected with some copyright or ownership excuse, hmm imagine that.

I'm sure Milos would fit any of these "categories". And I'm sure he'll agree with it without AMI bullshitting about it.

What do you think ;D.

oh.. and counter to rat face, we like Milos ;D
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 01, 2007, 11:04:14 PM
The bottom line is that we don't know if Wikidudeman is TA. So there is no point accusing him. From the looks of Wikipedia articles related to bodybuilding Wikidudeman has been doing a great job on them. Lets get back to the point of the argument which is: Does TA deserve to have his picture on Wikipedia?

Can someone give Wikidudeman a better, more representative picture of a bodybuilder?

Thank you, I have been requesting better images for months to no avail. People on this forum would rather complain about his picture being there than attempt to do anything about, including uploading their own photographs if they are more muscular as they so often make it seem. My guess is this thread will last a 1 or 2 more pages with your typical "You want to lick TA's peepee" and I'll leave because I have better things to do than deal with people who act like 5 year olds and we'll have accomplished nothing.

his pic fits some of the metioned articles, it does not fit the striation article.

not worth the effort, in the past every pic someone has tried to give wikidouche, he's rejected with some copyright or ownership excuse, hmm imagine that.

Images that are copyrighted and are uploaded are instantly deleted. So yes, Imagine that...
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2007, 11:06:20 PM
I'm sure Milos would fit any of these "categories". And I'm sure he'll agree with it without AMI bullshitting about it.

What do you think ;D.

oh.. and counter to rat face, we like Milos ;D
I think I need to talk to Milos about this ;)

want to bet Wikidouche still finds a reason to not change the pic?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 11:09:22 PM
I think I need to talk to Milos about this ;)

want to bet Wikidouche still finds a reason to not change the pic?
heh yeah, I bet even if Milos himself emails wikidudeman (TA and/or his Lover) an image of himself, TA will come up with an excuse...
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: climber on July 01, 2007, 11:11:47 PM
I think I need to talk to Milos about this ;)

Yeah man, that would be great.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: G o a t b o y on July 01, 2007, 11:13:10 PM
heh yeah, I bet even if Milos himself emails wikidudeman (TA and/or his Lover) an image of himself, TA will come up with an excuse...


For sure you have to ask Milos to submit his pic.

Anything to get TA's ugly mug off of there!
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 01, 2007, 11:25:53 PM
notice how TA/Wikidudeman got quiet all of the sudden...
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: musclehedz on July 02, 2007, 05:26:36 AM
TA is way too small to be on wiki BB pages. Fixed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding  Got 25 more wireless unsecured networks with different subnets/ip's to keep on editing.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Kwon on July 02, 2007, 07:10:08 AM
it says "bodybuilder Adam Abeles posing"

dude has never competed in bodybuilding.

but. he did a pretty good jobb on the information on bodybuilding, history etc. so if nobody else wants to do it i guess we will have to settle for having him on there lol

Someone who builds his body is a bodybuilder, even if he has competed or not.

You can have managed to build and achieve a very impressive physique like for example Victor Richards, and not have interests in competing.

Non-competitors can even have achieved and built more impressive physiques and bodies than those who HAVE competed (Billy Gunz, Ken Jones etc) and still be considered bodybuilders.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: gtbro1 on July 02, 2007, 07:12:45 AM
  hahahahaha what a tool. Who cares let him have his pic on there...he is in good shape in that pic without a doubt.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: GreatFinn on July 02, 2007, 09:12:19 AM
I don't understand it. Every once in a while someone posts a thread somewhere complaining about that picture on wikipedia, the picture gets sporadic vandalism which is instantly reverted, things go back to normal until someone does it again. If your complaints about the image are legitimate then why can't you register a wikipedia account, come up with a good, clear, concise reason to why the image must be removed, gather a consensus on the talk page of each article listed, get the image removed?

You try to make us to believe that you ain't True"Fag*got"Abeles, but you really cannot explain why you choose his pictures in that article about bodybuilding? You have something like 50 000 000 better bodybuilders to choose, and you take that fuc*kin ape to present them? That complete moron cannot even compete in BB:ing sport, because there isn't competitions for mentally challenged persons, so he isn't such a good example. If you write an article about jewish neo nazis, there you can use his picture with a good reason, but in bodybuilding he presents those poor idiots, who never would be anything but bodybuilder wannabes, because they doesn't have ability for it. What comes to Abeles, it is hard to find a moron who is equally ignorant with his diet and nutriments, so why you choose him to present the bodybuilders? This mentally sick little jew admires aryan male model so much that he want to be one, and you think that makes him a bb:er? Well, think again. What you really are doing is that you are abusing mentally ill person by feeding his distorted self-concept. Guys like Abeles would be fine only when you totally ignore them, but if you courage their illusions, you just harm them. 
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: bb doc on July 02, 2007, 11:19:41 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/01/magazine/01WIKIPEDIA-t.html?_r=1&ref=magazine&oref=slogin

NYTIMES on Wikipedia.

Emphasis is on Wikipedia's core principle of Journalistic Neutrality.

I dont understand Wikidudeman's statement that there are no public domain bb images.

Try Google Images, Wikidudeman.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 02, 2007, 02:38:46 PM
Let me explain something about copyright. 99% of the images on google are copyrighted. In the united states( and most other countries) if someone takes a picture then they own the copyright to it. They don't need to register it or anything, the second they create the image they own the copyright to it. If you google a random image then there's a 99% chance it is copyrighted. Unless there is a published note under the image saying it's released into public domain or is released under creative commons, it can't be used for wikipedia. Wikipedia prohibits copyrighted images and if I were to upload an image which is copyrighted then it would be quickly deleted by a hoards of obsessed copyright watchers who delete anything that is copyrighted. Good or bad, That's how it is and it can't be changed.

This is why I always request people post images that they took themselves and release the rights underneath those images so that they can be used on wikipedia.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: kyomu on July 02, 2007, 02:46:15 PM
I have nothing for him. But I have never ever admited TA as a BBer.
Simple reason. He cant hit seven mandatory pose correctly and too many weak points make him non-bber.Especialy his skinny legs are really really far from it.
Its not matter of size. Just he dont look like bber.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 02, 2007, 02:51:24 PM
I have nothing for him. But I have never ever admited TA as a BBer.
Simple reason. He cant hit seven mandatory pose correctly and too many weak points make him non-bber.Especialy his skinny legs are really really far from it.
Its not matter of size. Just he dont look like bber.

Are you a bodybuilder?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: dodster on July 02, 2007, 02:58:06 PM
adonis aint a bb, he doesnt want to be either, so it should be removed.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 02, 2007, 06:40:05 PM
People have posted more appropriate pics

Who? Where?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: onlyme on July 02, 2007, 07:42:08 PM
Let me explain something about copyright. 99% of the images on google are copyrighted. In the united states( and most other countries) if someone takes a picture then they own the copyright to it. They don't need to register it or anything, the second they create the image they own the copyright to it. If you google a random image then there's a 99% chance it is copyrighted. Unless there is a published note under the image saying it's released into public domain or is released under creative commons, it can't be used for wikipedia. Wikipedia prohibits copyrighted images and if I were to upload an image which is copyrighted then it would be quickly deleted by a hoards of obsessed copyright watchers who delete anything that is copyrighted. Good or bad, That's how it is and it can't be changed.

This is why I always request people post images that they took themselves and release the rights underneath those images so that they can be used on wikipedia.

You're full of shit.  You have to be Apenis.  Are you that ignorant and stupid.  Have you admitted you are at least a friend of Apenis.  Cause if you haven't how did you get his pictures to put up there.  And your copyright things is off.  The internet is considered publoic domain since it is so hard to police.  That is why they have watermark and  copyright programs so the photos can be protected as much as possible.  I think you meant to say that 99% of the photos ARE NOT copyrighted.  Way more than half the photos on the internet are posted by individuals who just like to post shit on the internet.  They take a picture and put it up.  That does not mean it's copyrighted.  if that was the case then why is there any laws.  If everything is automatically copyrighted like you say then why are there laws and attorneys to copyright.

By the way are you catcher or the picture in the relationship with Apenis.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 02, 2007, 10:09:10 PM
any other competitor's pics from mr. getbig, for starters

They've released them into public domain? Have a link?


You're full of shit.  You have to be Apenis.  Are you that ignorant and stupid.  Have you admitted you are at least a friend of Apenis.  Cause if you haven't how did you get his pictures to put up there.

He let me use them.


And your copyright things is off.  The internet is considered publoic domain since it is so hard to police.  That is why they have watermark and  copyright programs so the photos can be protected as much as possible.

This is incorrect. Copyrights are defined by and protected under title 17 of the U.S. Code and all original works of the author of literary, dramatic, musical, artistic, and certain other intellectual works are protected, this includes photographs taken.

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/circ92.pdf (http://www.copyright.gov/title17/circ92.pdf)

See:
http://www.copyright.gov/ (http://www.copyright.gov/)
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/ (http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/)

Watermarks are only used when an image is distinctly copyrighted by the owner, meaning the owner states it's copyright where it is published and he doesn't want to hurt the quality of the image by posting a visible watermark of copyright on it so he adds an invisible one which he can use as evidence if the image is used and he does not receive royalties.


I think you meant to say that 99% of the photos ARE NOT copyrighted.  Way more than half the photos on the internet are posted by individuals who just like to post shit on the internet.  They take a picture and put it up.  That does not mean it's copyrighted.  if that was the case then why is there any laws.  If everything is automatically copyrighted like you say then why are there laws and attorneys to copyright.

Incorrect. Anyone who takes an image is automatically the owner of it's copyright.

Quote
When is my work protected?
Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html#mywork (http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html#mywork)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: G o a t b o y on July 02, 2007, 10:37:29 PM
They've released them into public domain? Have a link?


He let me use them.


This is incorrect. Copyrights are defined by and protected under title 17 of the U.S. Code and all original works of the author of literary, dramatic, musical, artistic, and certain other intellectual works are protected, this includes photographs taken.

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/circ92.pdf (http://www.copyright.gov/title17/circ92.pdf)

See:
http://www.copyright.gov/ (http://www.copyright.gov/)
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/ (http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/)

Watermarks are only used when an image is distinctly copyrighted by the owner, meaning the owner states it's copyright where it is published and he doesn't want to hurt the quality of the image by posting a visible watermark of copyright on it so he adds an invisible one which he can use as evidence if the image is used and he does not receive royalties.


Incorrect. Anyone who takes an image is automatically the owner of it's copyright.
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html#mywork (http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html#mywork)


Coyrights are meant to protect professional photographers so they can make a living, not every Tom, Dick and Harry who snaps something with a cell phone and tosses it on the web, especially when you're talking about non-commercial educational use.

You Wiki douches are way too anal about that shit.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 02, 2007, 10:58:41 PM

Coyrights are meant to protect professional photographers so they can make a living, not every Tom, Dick and Harry who snaps something with a cell phone and tosses it on the web, especially when you're talking about non-commercial educational use.

You Wiki douches are way too anal about that shit.

Copyrights are used to protect the intellectual works of anyone who creates the works I don't own Wikipedia, I don't make the rules there. Wikipedia only uses copyright free images or fair-use images for it's articles, everything else is deleted. I won't debate whether or not it should be that way, but that's the way it is, there's nothing that can be done about it. That being said, Inorder to replace the images of TrueAdonis I will need alternative better quality public domain images. Once someone provides me with them then I will replace his images with them, if they are better quality and more suitable for an encyclopedia. I have said that numerous times and no one has even offered to provide any images let alone posted any. I ignore all objections to his image being there from people who don't bother to provide any images themselves or go through the proper channels to even get them removed.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 02, 2007, 11:20:35 PM
That's funny cuz all the other pictures up there are copyrighted. Do you have written permission to display them? Thought not.

This is a meaningless discussion because wikidudeman is TA, and when has anyone gotten TA to shut up? Never. Own him up and down, prove him wrong a hundred times and ways, and he'll come back -- sort of like genital herpies.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 03, 2007, 12:42:01 AM
That's funny cuz all the other pictures up there are copyrighted. Do you have written permission to display them?

Yes. Every picture up there, it's rights have been released into public domain. Some of them are from Layne Norton who I got to release the rights, Others their copyrights have expired because the authors have been dead for over 70 years, The rest were taken by Wikipedia users who released them into public domain.

Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 03, 2007, 12:47:48 AM
Yes. Every picture up there, it's rights have been released into public domain. Some of them are from Layne Norton who I got to release the rights, Others their copyrights have expired because the authors have been dead for over 70 years, The rest were taken by Wikipedia users who released them into public domain.


oh, of course. Who am I to doubt your word?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 03, 2007, 12:53:02 AM
oh, of course. Who am I to doubt your word?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Badell3.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Badell3.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Falk%2C_Benjamin_J._%281853-1925%29_-_Eugen_Sandow_%281867-1925%29.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Falk%2C_Benjamin_J._%281853-1925%29_-_Eugen_Sandow_%281867-1925%29.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lyen_wong_wiki.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lyen_wong_wiki.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Luk%C3%A1%C5%A1_Osladil.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Luk%C3%A1%C5%A1_Osladil.jpg)

Check their copyrights and notice the permissions.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 03, 2007, 01:07:50 AM
I never said they did; thats not what you asked for.  You asked who had posted more appropriate images (i.e. a picture of something with atleast 1 striation on their entire body) and I told you who and where.

By "appropriate" I mean appropriate for Wikipedia. If the image is copyrighted then it's not appropriate for Wikipedia.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: MAXX on July 03, 2007, 06:29:28 AM
then wikidude if you are not TA then post a picture of you to prove it...
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on July 03, 2007, 06:33:24 AM
By "appropriate" I mean appropriate for Wikipedia. If the image is copyrighted then it's not appropriate for Wikipedia.

ok being a bodybuilder myself, if i give you a picture of myself.. being that im bigger, leaner, more aesthetic and balanced than TA... you will replace his picture with mine?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 03, 2007, 06:31:00 PM
ok being a bodybuilder myself, if i give you a picture of myself.. being that im bigger, leaner, more aesthetic and balanced than TA... you will replace his picture with mine?
that's his claims, tp4u, post your pic with a release to public domain shit he wants, then get TA's scrawny ass off the striation page.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Voice of Doom on July 03, 2007, 08:10:22 PM
Ok Wikidude...since you're playing semantics, let's really talk semantics. 

Answer these questions:

1. How is TA's picture a depiction of a bodybuilder?  What is the criteria of that picture that makes it suitable as description of a bodybuilder?  Couldn't it also be a picture of a swimmer or a jogger or a male model (being serious)?  What in that picture qualifies it to be a description of a bodybuilder?

Bodybuilding is a hobby AND a profession.  Meaning that men and women compete and get paid to be bodybuilders.  Now is a professional or amateur a more accurate depiction of bodybuilder? 

Lets look into that a little further...Consensus reality Wikidude, thats how humans function.  By that I mean that if we look up a description of a red ball on Wikipedia we should see a picture of a red ball.   Now some people are colorblind but they are in the minority.  If enough people look at the red ball and conclude that it fits their definition of a red ball the picture stays...if it looks blue to the majority of people it would be changed.  Correct?  Remember that Wikidude, because Wikipedia.org, being "open source", is the very definition of consensus reality. 

Now being a policeman is a profession AND a hobby.  People are paid to be policemen but citizens are also capable, legally, of being able to stop, investigate, detain and arrest other citizens, they are allowed to shoot and kill in self-defense.  This is a right and though not widely practiced it exists in law.   

NOW, if people look up Policeman on Wikipedia would they expect to see a picture of a professional policeman or the guy in the policeman's outfit from the Village people?  Funny right, but what if that guy had made several dozen citizens arrests.  He would legally fit the definition of a policeman according to you, right?  But we aren't going to find his pic are we?  No, because the majority of the population has a preconceived idea of what a policeman is.  And it's not him.

Here is where we come full circle Wikidude. 
You have to present verifiable proof.  Employed as, taxed as, paid as, legally recognized as............get what I'm saying?

TA does not fit the generally conceived idea of a bodybuilder.  He does not have a verifiable past to indicate that he is a bodybuilder.  All he has done is presented you with a picture of himself.  He has won NO sanctioned bbing competitions nor has he been paid (making him a professional) to participate in a sanctioned bbing production.  There are no videos or witness statements of him engaging in the act of bodybuilding (whatever that is).  He has no credibility to describe himself as a bodybuilder nor proof to back it up.  And his physique does not speak for itself.  He could have arrived at his level of muscularity and bodyfat by playing tennis, or swimming or rock-climbing.  His picture, without reasonable reference, is simply an artistic statement without merit.

This, of course, is the problem with trying to define anything...so thats why we have governing bodies that sanction events.  We the people grant the government the ability to allow us to legally create corporation for a specific purpose, like the NFL, that allow for a uniform code to be established as to what makes a professional football player.  It adds credibility and legality to the sport, event, competition or pagent. 

We, the people, all agree and it becomes binding.  While I like to play tag football on the weekends, sadly it DOES NOT make me a football player.

We all agree in bodybuilding as well.  Now...how would one gain credibility as a bodybuilder?  He/she would have participated in a LEGALLY SANCTIONED event.  This is how IRS would characterize it for taxing purposes if you put down "Bodybuilder" as your occupation.  You would have to PROVE it...and that is how you would, by citing an affiliation to a legal corporation that engages in bodybuilding.  There are specific organizations that we legally allow to produce and "define" what it means to be a bodybuilder for us.  That's how life works Wikidude and thats where a "bodybuilding" picture should come from.


Now, who is the most famous BB'er in the world..the general consensus...of course its Arnold.  Are his pictures acceptable, of course, are they copyright free?  Unknown, you would have to do the research...that is your job, right?  Cant find any?  But what about Eugene Sandow?  He is widely recognized as the father of modern bodybuilding and I know his pictures fall within the "fair-use" category as he lived last century and so did his photographers.  Wouldn't his picture, by normal logic, be the more appropriate?


So let's clear the BS and answer the question Wikidude:

1. How is TA's picture a depiction of a bodybuilder? 


Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Vince B on July 03, 2007, 08:46:34 PM
Wikiman has no sense of humour. We are denied the privilege of having bodybuilding rewritten by Vince G CSN MFT! That is an oversight of immense proportions.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 03, 2007, 11:27:29 PM
I took down his image on the "Striations" page and replaced it with another one.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: GreatFinn on July 04, 2007, 08:15:09 AM
Wikiman has no sense of humour. We are denied the privilege of having bodybuilding rewritten by Vince G CSN MFT! That is an oversight of immense proportions.

Yet another reason to believe he really is T.A, but anyway: his knowledge about the sport seem to be so narrow, that it is hard to understand why someone who hasn't any interest for the sport, want to put up wiki- article about it.

We should ask if whateva want to give his pictures to use for wikipedia, he is quite good real life amateur bodybuilder and he has gain some respect by beating this T.A fag*gots little nazi ass. 
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on July 04, 2007, 09:04:37 AM
I took down his image on the "Striations" page and replaced it with another one.

you made a claim.  now answer the question i asked you on the previous page, thanx
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 04, 2007, 07:39:16 PM
ok being a bodybuilder myself, if i give you a picture of myself.. being that im bigger, leaner, more aesthetic and balanced than TA... you will replace his picture with mine?


Yes. When you upload your image, Be sure to paste this with it:

Quote
Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify the images I just posted all of which I took myself under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: xpac2 on July 04, 2007, 08:26:04 PM

Yes. When you upload your image, Be sure to paste this with it:


You didn't get many dates in high school did you?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Alex23 on July 04, 2007, 11:53:55 PM
You didn't get many dates in high school did you?

Still doesn't. Oh, does imginary/pillow girfriends count ;D ?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 05, 2007, 12:48:30 PM
Are you going to post the image? TooPowerful4u? Don't forget to this along with it:

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Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify the images I just posted all of which I took myself under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License.

Anyone else here who thinks they are more muscular than TrueAdonis or believe they are more suited to be pictured on one of those listed pages can upload their images as well, pasting exactly what I posted above along with the image to release it's rights. I'm a fair person, if anyone is truly more suitable I will replace the images with theirs. Posting an image of some professional bodybuilder won't work either, Unless of course you took the image yourself, in which case I will upload it as well and replace it if it's more suitable.

Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: xpac2 on July 05, 2007, 12:55:03 PM
Are you going to post the image? TooPowerful4u? Don't forget to this along with it:

Anyone else here who thinks they are more muscular than TrueAdonis or believe they are more suited to be pictured on one of those listed pages can upload their images as well, pasting exactly what I posted above along with the image to release it's rights. I'm a fair person, if anyone is truly more suitable I will replace the images with theirs. Posting an image of some professional bodybuilder won't work either, Unless of course you took the image yourself, in which case I will upload it as well and replace it if it's more suitable.



Translation = you need a refreshment of spanking material
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 05, 2007, 01:19:07 PM
Translation = you need a refreshment of spanking material

I'm not homosexual. I upload the images to Wikipedia so they can be used in various articles.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wikidudeman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wikidudeman)
Images I have created or uploaded
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: xpac2 on July 05, 2007, 01:35:44 PM
I'm not homosexual. I upload the images to Wikipedia so they can be used in various articles.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wikidudeman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wikidudeman)
Images I have created or uploaded


 ::)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on July 05, 2007, 01:37:49 PM
heres a stage pic, and i was only 22 here hehe (im just WAITING for him to say... adonis shows a better presentation of yada yada yada.... LOL).  Now uphold your part of the bargain and remove him

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify the images I just posted all of which I took myself under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on July 05, 2007, 01:39:29 PM
and just in case you wanna be a smartass.... il post a picture of my boss Rich Gaspari and get his permission for ya.... either way.... Adonis is off the page  :-*  OR im sure i can get Dzulboy to release a picture for this purpose.... as he SMOKES Adonis too
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: climber on July 05, 2007, 01:40:38 PM
have you got a pic where your body isn't cut off? i'm sure wikidude will complain about that...
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on July 05, 2007, 01:48:20 PM
have you got a pic where your body isn't cut off? i'm sure wikidude will complain about that...

bs, this should be suffecient.  If not, il get Dzulboy or Rich Gaspari himself.  Either way, he has ZERO way around this one....
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: xpac2 on July 05, 2007, 01:52:30 PM
Toopowerful4u

Don't let Wikidouche fool you. Anyone has the right to edit and maintain web pages. Go ahead and replace the your images with Adonis's. These wiki editors are dorks and think they are special by editing pages when it is free to anyone.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on July 05, 2007, 02:04:03 PM
Toopowerful4u

Don't let Wikidouche fool you. Anyone has the right to edit and maintain web pages. Go ahead and replace the your images with Adonis's. These wiki editors are dorks and think they are special by editing pages when it is free to anyone.

im just calling his bluff.  now he will either come up with a bs excuse (at which point i will provide a picture of a legendary bodybuilder with his permission) or another very good bodybuilder who competes nationally).... or he just wont come back here... which proves he IS Adonis.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 05, 2007, 02:13:10 PM
Wikipedia is shit.

From the mouth of it's creator: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/18/wikipedia_quality_problem/

"This is garbage, an incoherent hodge-podge of dubious factoids that adds up to something far less than the sum of its parts,"
   --wikipedia co-founder and überpedian Jimmy Wales

Google it: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=wikipedia+errors
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 05, 2007, 02:31:16 PM
im just calling his bluff.  now he will either come up with a bs excuse (at which point i will provide a picture of a legendary bodybuilder with his permission) or another very good bodybuilder who competes nationally).... or he just wont come back here... which proves he IS Adonis.

You're right, It's bad quality, it's too dark, your physique is blurry, etc. I can upload it if you want, however this image is definitely not better quality than the TrueAdonis one. You might have a bit more muscle mass however that alone doesn't mean it's a better image more suitable for those web-pages. If you want to substitute the TrueAdonis image you'll need one with better quality. You knew it was low quality and you even predicted I would object to it's quality. Don't accuse me of being partial.

Wikipedia is shit.

From the mouth of it's creator: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/18/wikipedia_quality_problem/

"This is garbage, an incoherent hodge-podge of dubious factoids that adds up to something far less than the sum of its parts,"
   --wikipedia co-founder and überpedian Jimmy Wales

Google it: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=wikipedia+errors

Nicholas Carr wrote that, Not Jimbo Wales.  ::)

http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2005/10/the_amorality_o.php (http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2005/10/the_amorality_o.php)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: HERACLES on July 05, 2007, 03:25:03 PM
Hahah what a joke!
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: LongtimeLurker on July 05, 2007, 03:50:49 PM
This is fantastic!   TA is a great example of what a natural bodybuilder can achieve if he trains hard enough and eats a disciplined diet.   Like him or not personality-wise, he's a good role model for the natural bodybuilding lifestyle.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 05, 2007, 04:45:44 PM
You're right, It's bad quality, it's too dark, your physique is blurry, etc. I can upload it if you want, however this image is definitely not better quality than the TrueAdonis one. You might have a bit more muscle mass however that alone doesn't mean it's a better image more suitable for those web-pages. If you want to substitute the TrueAdonis image you'll need one with better quality. You knew it was low quality and you even predicted I would object to it's quality. Don't accuse me of being partial.

Nicholas Carr wrote that, Not Jimbo Wales.  ::)

http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2005/10/the_amorality_o.php (http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2005/10/the_amorality_o.php)
Its not that they even want to represent the article.  They just hate me that much and are trying their hardest to remove me as a symbolic gesture.  Their hate runs that deep.  There is not much one can do to remedy such deep emptional thought.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 05, 2007, 05:39:14 PM
As I've said previously, If you don't like the image then go to Wikipedia and protest it's being there. It's pretty simple. Register a name and put up an argument for it to be removed and if there is consensus then there's nothing I can do to keep it up. I've offered you all two ways to get it removed so it's up to you.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on July 05, 2007, 07:26:22 PM
LOL i predicted you would come up with an EXCUSE.  However, here is Dzulboy, member of this board and my coworker.  I can promise you the release on this picture.  DO YOU ACCEPT?  Or i can get you a release on Rich Gaspari.  Deal?

You're right, It's bad quality, it's too dark, your physique is blurry, etc. I can upload it if you want, however this image is definitely not better quality than the TrueAdonis one. You might have a bit more muscle mass however that alone doesn't mean it's a better image more suitable for those web-pages. If you want to substitute the TrueAdonis image you'll need one with better quality. You knew it was low quality and you even predicted I would object to it's quality. Don't accuse me of being partial.

Nicholas Carr wrote that, Not Jimbo Wales.  ::)

http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2005/10/the_amorality_o.php (http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2005/10/the_amorality_o.php)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 05, 2007, 08:03:49 PM
Go ahead and get me a release on a good Rich Gaspari image and I'll replace the Adonis image with it.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on July 05, 2007, 08:08:11 PM
Go ahead and get me a release on a good Rich Gaspari image and I'll replace the Adonis image with it.

Deal.  Tell me what you need in order to get it and i will when he gets to work tomorrow
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 05, 2007, 08:13:11 PM
Deal.  Tell me what you need in order to get it and i will when he gets to work tomorrow
Tell Rich To compete in the Next Mr. Getbig.  I would love to crush him now that he has withered into nothing. :)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: shiftedShapes on July 05, 2007, 08:54:12 PM
LOL i predicted you would come up with an EXCUSE.  However, here is Dzulboy, member of this board and my coworker.  I can promise you the release on this picture.  DO YOU ACCEPT?  Or i can get you a release on Rich Gaspari.  Deal?


this guy does not look good, gyno, thick waist and long torso.

Maybe more muscle than TA, but certainly not a very good representation of the "sport"
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 05, 2007, 09:06:09 PM
Deal.  Tell me what you need in order to get it and i will when he gets to work tomorrow

You will need to find an image already taken of him and get the person who took that photograph to post the image as well as:

"Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify the images I just posted all of which I took myself under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License."

along with it. If there are any images that he owns the copyright to because he got a professional photographer to take them for him, for his sole use then you can get him to post the images himself in this thread or E-mail them to me.

Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on July 06, 2007, 07:37:48 AM
Tell Rich To compete in the Next Mr. Getbig.  I would love to crush him now that he has withered into nothing. :)

LMFAO!!!!!!!! are you dilusional?  I am going to post an open challange to you in the open forum. please respond thanx....
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The Jayhawker on July 06, 2007, 08:21:35 AM
Wiki has been fixed. Larry "The Legend" Scott is now on the site.


J
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 06, 2007, 05:41:44 PM
Wiki has been fixed. Larry "The Legend" Scott is now on the site.


J

You uploaded the Larry Scott image and provided no source information or permission. It's going to be deleted.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Alex23 on July 06, 2007, 05:42:44 PM
You uploaded the Larry Scott image and provided no source information or permission. It's going to be deleted.

stfu adonis. you put it back there. Jeff told me.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 06, 2007, 05:47:24 PM
They should put a picture of Billy Guns on wiki. They could title the picture 'A bodybuilder with very poor genetics, to the point where even response to androgens is limited.'

A picture of daddywaddy would be nice too.. 'A typical bodybuilding stereotype. Is an attention whore, insecure and lives in parent's basement.'

MattT's would be best. 'Bodybuilders often resort to lies about overseas ventures. This male lied about a real estate investment in Dubai, India.'
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 06, 2007, 06:03:58 PM
Put this guy up there...he's classified as a "bodybuilder"...somehow...

(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/44/More%20Amatures_7269.jpg)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 06, 2007, 06:14:32 PM
stfu adonis. you put it back there. Jeff told me.
There is no need to hate Wikidudeman.   I think you are letting your Christianity get the best of you as we are both atheists.  You know this and are bitter about it. 
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Alex23 on July 06, 2007, 06:19:49 PM
There is no need to hate Wikidudeman.   I think you are letting your Christianity get the best of you as we are both atheists.  You know this and are bitter about it. 

Adam's Junior College education theme of the day: "Atheist and there is no God".

Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Beener on July 06, 2007, 06:21:15 PM
Why does he have a "bad character?" His only flaw is the occasional white lie; its not like he sells crack or beats women.



You got somethin' against beatin' women?

 :-\
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 06, 2007, 06:26:55 PM
Adam's Junior College education theme of the day: "Atheist and there is no God".


Hey where is the proof of the Pixel Tessalations?  How is that coming along?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Alex23 on July 06, 2007, 06:30:53 PM
Hey where is the proof of the Pixel Tessalations?  How is that coming along?

I'll let you stress about it while you spend yet another friday night online.. 9:30EAST right. Wow.

Oh and it's "tessellations", quite a mouthful for you considering you don't have a scientific background.

I'll post all the details whenever I feel like it.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 07, 2007, 12:25:52 AM
Now someone is accusing me of being someone else on Wikipedia. If I were all of the people I get accused of being, I would be superhuman. Still no one has provide an alternative picture that is copyright free that would replace the TrueAdonis image. I figured with all of the 250lb bodybuilders on this forum people would be jumping to upload copyright free images of themselves to replace the TrueAdonis image, yet in this thread all I got was a single bad quality image of someone from a contest?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: xpac2 on July 07, 2007, 11:44:08 AM
Now someone is accusing me of being someone else on Wikipedia. If I were all of the people I get accused of being, I would be superhuman. Still no one has provide an alternative picture that is copyright free that would replace the TrueAdonis image. I figured with all of the 250lb bodybuilders on this forum people would be jumping to upload copyright free images of themselves to replace the TrueAdonis image, yet in this thread all I got was a single bad quality image of someone from a contest?

There's plenty of pictures in this thread fagdonis
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: MAXX on July 07, 2007, 11:59:47 AM
Now someone is accusing me of being someone else on Wikipedia. If I were all of the people I get accused of being, I would be superhuman. Still no one has provide an alternative picture that is copyright free that would replace the TrueAdonis image. I figured with all of the 250lb bodybuilders on this forum people would be jumping to upload copyright free images of themselves to replace the TrueAdonis image, yet in this thread all I got was a single bad quality image of someone from a contest?
ask this guy if you can use his pics http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=101414.0

jrod is his name on this board but you know that allready Adam ;)

he is a good representation for natural bodybuilders. and has strations :P
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 07, 2007, 09:10:20 PM
There's plenty of pictures in this thread fagdonis

Only 1 image has been posted in this thread that is copyright free and it's insufficient quality to replace the current image.

ask this guy if you can use his pics http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=101414.0

jrod is his name on this board but you know that allready Adam ;)

he is a good representation for natural bodybuilders. and has strations :P

You ask him. I'm not the one who's rallying to get the current images removed.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 07, 2007, 09:42:53 PM
Only 1 image has been posted in this thread that is copyright free and it's insufficient quality to replace the current image.

You ask him. I'm not the one who's rallying to get the current images removed.
yeah , you're trying real hard to get a proper image to represent the articles as best as you can ::)

lazy fuck.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 08, 2007, 12:09:33 AM
yeah , you're trying real hard to get a proper image to represent the articles as best as you can ::)

lazy fuck.

I think it's a fantastic image. Other Wikipedians agree.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: G o a t b o y on July 08, 2007, 12:18:47 AM
I think it's a fantastic image. Other Wikipedians agree.


"Wikipedians"?  ::)


What the hell is that, a synonym for "faggots"?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 08, 2007, 12:32:08 AM

"Wikipedians"?  ::)


What the hell is that, a synonym for "faggots"?

Sure.  ::)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: GreatFinn on July 08, 2007, 05:30:07 AM
Now someone is accusing me of being someone else on Wikipedia. If I were all of the people I get accused of being, I would be superhuman. Still no one has provide an alternative picture that is copyright free that would replace the TrueAdonis image. I figured with all of the 250lb bodybuilders on this forum people would be jumping to upload copyright free images of themselves to replace the TrueAdonis image, yet in this thread all I got was a single bad quality image of someone from a contest?

You have a specific and good reason to not use your real name in wikipedia? You have something to shame or hide?

What comes to TA, he even isn't a bodybuilder, and therefore his picture doesn't belong in that article anyway, so why all this fuzz? Why you keep that article up there, even if you doesn't have a proper pictures for it? Be a man, take that article down and give an opportunity to someone who knows the sport to write an accurate one, someone who doesn't write it just because of self-assertion
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The Jayhawker on July 08, 2007, 12:27:03 PM
I have removed the TA picture on Wikipedia.

This is cleary for personal reasons seeing as TA has never entered a professional bodybuiling contest or event.

While TA might be in good phyiscal condition this is clearly a self motivating action. This is a clear case of taking advantage of the system.


J

Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 08, 2007, 12:28:36 PM
I have removed the TA picture on Wikipedia.

This is cleary for personal reasons seeing as TA has never entered a professional bodybuiling contest or event.

While TA might be in good phyiscal condition this is clearly a self motivating action. This is a clear case of taking advantage of the system.


J


good job
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 09, 2007, 01:25:59 AM
I have removed the TA picture on Wikipedia.

This is cleary for personal reasons seeing as TA has never entered a professional bodybuiling contest or event.

While TA might be in good phyiscal condition this is clearly a self motivating action. This is a clear case of taking advantage of the system.


J




The image keeps being restored because you're not providing an adequate reason for it to be removed. It's already back on there and has been since a few seconds after you removed it. If you truly want it removed you're going to have to do it the Wikipedia way. That means abiding by policy and gathering a consensus to get it removed. Simply deleting it will do no good if other editors think it needs to be there.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Tapeworm on July 09, 2007, 02:06:39 AM
Best
Trolling
Ever
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: --phoenix-- on July 09, 2007, 03:36:56 AM
TAs pic needs to be taken off wikipedia, hes making all bodybuilders look like a joke by having it up there

get a pic of a 'real' bodybuilder up there, ronnie, jay, dex, chris just somebody that does bodybuilding justice and can inspire people
not sum skinny little ugly nazi
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 09, 2007, 04:50:27 AM
TAs pic needs to be taken off wikipedia, hes making all bodybuilders look like a joke by having it up there

get a pic of a 'real' bodybuilder up there, ronnie, jay, dex, chris just somebody that does bodybuilding justice and can inspire people
not sum skinny little ugly nazi

Have you even read this thread? Get me a copyright-free quality image of Jay Cutler or Dexter Jackson and I'll add it. Otherwise the image stays because it's the best one suited for those pages.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The Jayhawker on July 09, 2007, 08:52:59 AM
I have taken TA's picture off of the Wikipedia page again and reported WLU (the person that constantly adds it to Wikipedia) to the administrators.

Whomever WLU is on the this forum I will continue to monitor the site. You might have TA's picture up for a few hours but I will find it and will take it down again.

Again this is NOT personal. It follows under the same logic if I were to go to the "handsome" page and add a personal photo of myself just because.

I also have been using wikipedia for years and know the language and how to contact the admins.

You are CLEARLY taking advantage of the system. PLEASE STOP.


Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The Jayhawker on July 09, 2007, 09:33:26 AM
I have sent an e-mail to Wikipedia administrator Isotope23 explaining the situation.

I have done all I can, but will monitor this.


*I have also added the same picture of TA to the homosexual page to balance things out.


J



Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Titanium on July 09, 2007, 01:24:38 PM
The picture was described as "bodybuilder posing".
Well thats not a correct pose therefore "posing" is the wrong word to use
and if he doesnt compete he is not a bodybuilder, the 2nd wrong word to use.

Going to a gym then losing a couple of pounds of fat makes you a body BUILDER not a BODYBUILDER.
You are not a BBer until you have competed officially, otherwise the world would be full of bodybuilders, football, basketball, etc... players.

If i adopt the same mentality you have taken then i am a basketball player, footballer, bodybuilder, powerlifter, swimmer, jogger, personal trainer, PC technician, cook and hair stylist (the list keeps on going but for fear of overloading the internet itself i shall stop here.)
Pretty impressive right?

Aswell what has it got to do with strategy?
Its pretty obvious that it was posted for self motivation becuase whilst the top part is full of pictures, the buttom part is empty.
putting a BBer posing as the first thing makes sense becuase a bodybuilder posing officially means thats the final product and thats what its all about.
putting it with the various specialised "departments" of bodybuilding doesnt make sense.

however i have no objection if you place it with Female bodybuilding. hehe just a bit of teasing here, i`m jkin

ah first post!. not nice  >:( when its bitc*ing about someone else but anyway
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Paul Allen on July 09, 2007, 02:46:19 PM
that man on that photo is one of the ugliest people I have ever had the displeasure of seeing.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 09, 2007, 07:23:59 PM
I have sent an e-mail to Wikipedia administrator Isotope23 explaining the situation.

I have done all I can, but will monitor this.


*I have also added the same picture of TA to the homosexual page to balance things out.


J




Keep fighting the good fight, JayHawker ;)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: garraeth on July 09, 2007, 10:45:13 PM
I have sent an e-mail to Wikipedia administrator Isotope23 explaining the situation.

I have done all I can, but will monitor this.


*I have also added the same picture of TA to the homosexual page to balance things out.


J




You'd better contact him again - TrueAss is back
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: climber on July 10, 2007, 01:17:13 PM
bump
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2007, 06:03:53 PM
All this is doing is bringing out the jealous rage that you Christian zealots revel in.  Whatever you have to do to fuel your emotion and your hate as that is your lifeblood and inspirado. 

In the end, reason will always triumph.  It is a bloody battle though. 
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The Squadfather on July 10, 2007, 06:05:18 PM
All this is doing is bringing out the jealous rage that you Christian zealots revel in.  Whatever you have to do to fuel your emotion and your hate as that is your lifeblood and inspirado. 

In the end, reason will always triumph.  It is a bloody battle though. 
hahahaha, they're a bunch of knuckle dragging savages and Phillistines.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: jason armstrong on July 10, 2007, 06:27:24 PM
since the True ANUS' image isn't copyrighted I am going to manufacture some toilet paper with his monkey face on eact 2 ply sheet and it'll sell like hotcakes....you guys should learn to wipe your ass with his posts he and windexfatter are pitiful.

be the first to get the true anus toilet paper and the special anniversay edition with adam richard abeles on it as well to show the world what a shit eater he is.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Alex23 on July 10, 2007, 06:30:26 PM
since the True ANUS' image isn't copyrighted I am going to manufacture some toilet paper with his monkey face on eact 2 ply sheet and it'll sell like hotcakes....you guys should learn to wipe your ass with his posts he and windexfatter are pitiful.

be the first to get the true anus toilet paper and the special anniversay edition with adam richard abeles on it as well to show the world what a shit eater he is.

Been there done that man ;D




Adam Abeles, why do you claim on your youtube page to be an "internet celebrity"? Is it your full time job?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The Jayhawker on July 10, 2007, 07:16:41 PM
Well the story ends here. WLU ( the person adding TA image to Wikipedia ) and I were banned for 24 hours because of all the changes.

They wrote me back and said that even thought the image maybe "in poor taste" it is technically legal. Since the picture was posted before my intervention first he gets first rights to have it posted. More or less a first come first served.

The good news is that if others comlplain besides me they will review the case.

In the end it's cool. I showed the picture to some Rugby buddies and they had a good laugh.

Also because this image isn't trademarked we can do with it as we wish. So I'll keep everyone posted what I do with it in the next few days.

J
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: G o a t b o y on July 10, 2007, 07:29:26 PM
Wikidouches just hurt the credibility of their site by using the TA pic. 
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: canadaphiliac on July 10, 2007, 08:19:38 PM
hahahaha, they're a bunch of knuckle dragging savages and Phillistines.
Maybe even Philistines. :D
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 11, 2007, 11:37:39 AM


Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify the image I just posted under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, which I took myself.
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 11, 2007, 07:47:01 PM

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify the image I just posted under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, which I took myself.
TA where are the visable striations???
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Wikidudeman on July 12, 2007, 07:58:55 AM
TA where are the visable striations???

Where are yours?
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The Jayhawker on July 12, 2007, 09:15:37 AM
A buddy found this. It's going on my new True Adonis Site.  :o

(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/139/The%20True%20Adonis_20342.jpg)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 12, 2007, 11:51:51 AM
A buddy found this. It's going on my new True Adonis Site.  :o

(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/139/The%20True%20Adonis_20342.jpg)
Nice Photoshop
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: The Jayhawker on July 12, 2007, 05:54:18 PM
Nice Photoshop

No photoshop my friend. I had my friend send me the link. Here it is. http://www.wpse.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/ThumbnailView.asp?iGalleryUnq=139 (http://www.wpse.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/ThumbnailView.asp?iGalleryUnq=139)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: D.L. 5 on July 12, 2007, 06:05:51 PM

In the end, reason will always triumph.  It is a bloody battle though. 

the true adonis is god!

HE IS THE NATURAL IDEAL!

THE PICTURE SHOULD BE OF HIM!

PUT IT BACK UP NOW!
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Master Blaster on July 12, 2007, 06:08:19 PM
the true adonis is god!

HE IS THE NATURAL IDEAL!

THE PICTURE SHOULD BE OF HIM!

PUT IT BACK UP NOW!
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Master Blaster on July 12, 2007, 06:21:46 PM
Here's the link to the discussion page on wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bodybuilding (http://wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bodybuilding)
scroll to the bottom for the money quotes like:

Quote
I'm not that person. That person gave me permission to use the image, it's a good image, So I'm using it for several articles. Nothing else to it. Moreover, Even if I was that person, that's not a justification to take it down as far as I know. Wikidudeman
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 12, 2007, 07:50:03 PM
Where are yours?
fuck off TA, I'm not posting my pic all over Wiki pretending to be a bodybuilder. Loser, get over yourself, you're a skinny geek who probably uses substantial drugs to stay lean. ::)
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: chaos on July 12, 2007, 07:51:36 PM
Nice Photoshop
HAHAHAHA you posted that pic yourself awhile back, bozo :-*
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: D.L. 5 on July 13, 2007, 06:48:16 AM
THE TRUE ADONIS = THE GRECIAN IDEAL!
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: Hedgehog on July 13, 2007, 07:51:20 AM
Nice Photoshop
(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/139/The%20True%20Adonis_20342.jpg)
What in this picture is photoshopped?

-Hedge
Title: Re: TA on wikipedia... should we allow it?
Post by: D.L. 5 on July 13, 2007, 08:38:31 AM
ok being a bodybuilder myself, if i give you a picture of myself.. being that im bigger, leaner, more aesthetic and balanced than TA... you will replace his picture with mine?

THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE.

HE IS THE NATURAL IDEAL.

THE GRECIAN IDEAL.

IDEAL!