Very mild cutting/lean mass Cycle

[wildcat90]

Hi guys, I'm 5'6", 155lbs, 7% bodyfat (been dieting with only clen).

My goals are:
1. get my bf% down to 4-5%
2. gain just 4-6lbs of quality muscle.
3. Be able maintain all of those gains when I'm off-cycle
4. Do it all in 6-8 weeks.
5. Not get detected within 3 months (might be competing in a tested contest).

This is my first cutting cycle and before this, I've only done sustanon + dbol. So yes, Imma noob in this department.



Week 1-6 - Stano tabs - 20mg/day
Week 1-6 - Masteron - 150mg/3day
Week 1-4 - Clen - 40-120mg/day (pyramid scheme)

Diet: 350g protein, 200g carbs, 70g fat, 2830kcal

Questions:
1. Do I need PCT after this cycle?
2. Should I add/remove anything?
3. Any warnings?

[bber]

yes I would do pct if I were you, you could possibly run clen again during this period as it has anti-catabolic properties and your body would have had a good few weeks off from it. however I would run a higher dosage of winstrol if you are planning to gain mass also.

[makaveli25]

You don't need pct for that. It's not even a real cycle.

[wildcat90]

You don't need pct for that. It's not even a real cycle.

What do you mean by "real"?

[Sector]

What do you mean by "real"?

I think if I were to translate for him, he means its a pussy cycle. I could be wrong though 

Would love to see pics of your 7% BF though.

As far as cycle advice, if your not even going to use a test base atleast run a decent amount of an oral. I would prefer Tbol over Winny for this purpose at dose of 50mg+. If you insist in the winny dont low ball it at 20mg. Bump your Masteron to atleast 400mg a week.

You dont need crazy doses but come on, if your going to risk doing this with a tested competition coming up... do it right.

[hangclean]

Hi guys, I'm 5'6", 155lbs, 7% bodyfat (been dieting with only clen).

My goals are:
1. get my bf% down to 4-5%
2. gain just 4-6lbs of quality muscle.
3. Be able maintain all of those gains when I'm off-cycle
4. Do it all in 6-8 weeks.
5. Not get detected within 3 months (might be competing in a tested contest).

This is my first cutting cycle and before this, I've only done sustanon + dbol. So yes, Imma noob in this department.



Week 1-6 - Stano tabs - 20mg/day
Week 1-6 - Masteron - 150mg/3day
Week 1-4 - Clen - 40-120mg/day (pyramid scheme)

Diet: 350g protein, 200g carbs, 70g fat, 2830kcal

Questions:
1. Do I need PCT after this cycle?
2. Should I add/remove anything?
3. Any warnings?

LOL @ "pyramid scheme".  Also, I would not recommend doing this cycle.

[wildcat90]

I think if I were to translate for him, he means its a pussy cycle. I could be wrong though  

Would love to see pics of your 7% BF though.

Yea, I thought he meant that too. But see, I want this to be my last cycle. I love bodybuilding, but there are many other things I'm working on so my priority after this cycle is to be able to keep 100% of my gains without having to jab myself anymore - period. So my goal is to get as big and lean as I can to the point which I can maintain with no more cycles. Am I close to that point?

As far as cycle advice, if your not even going to use a test base atleast run a decent amount of an oral. I would prefer Tbol over Winny for this purpose at dose of 50mg+. If you insist in the winny dont low ball it at 20mg. Bump your Masteron to atleast 400mg a week.

You dont need crazy doses but come on, if your going to risk doing this with a tested competition coming up... do it right.

Looking at my explanation above, do you still recommend this? As for winny, if you recommend I up my dosage, do you think I should stick with orals or move to injectables?

LOL @ "pyramid scheme".  Also, I would not recommend doing this cycle.

So... any constructive help you can give?

[AbrahamG]

Yea, I thought he meant that too. But see, I want this to be my last cycle. I love bodybuilding, but there are many other things I'm working on so my priority after this cycle is to be able to keep 100% of my gains without having to jab myself anymore - period. So my goal is to get as big and lean as I can to the point which I can maintain with no more cycles. Am I close to that point?



Looking at my explanation above, do you still recommend this? As for winny, if you recommend I up my dosage, do you think I should stick with orals or move to injectables?


So... any constructive help you can give?

You have a nice fat cock.  (No Homo)

[wildcat90]

You have a nice fat cock.  (No Homo)

that's very homo actually

[SmoofCat]

Hi guys, I'm 5'6", 155lbs, 7% bodyfat (been dieting with only clen).

My goals are:
1. get my bf% down to 4-5%
2. gain just 4-6lbs of quality muscle.
3. Be able maintain all of those gains when I'm off-cycle
4. Do it all in 6-8 weeks.
5. Not get detected within 3 months (might be competing in a tested contest).

This is my first cutting cycle and before this, I've only done sustanon + dbol. So yes, Imma noob in this department.



Week 1-6 - Stano tabs - 20mg/day
Week 1-6 - Masteron - 150mg/3day
Week 1-4 - Clen - 40-120mg/day (pyramid scheme)

Diet: 350g protein, 200g carbs, 70g fat, 2830kcal

Questions:
1. Do I need PCT after this cycle?
2. Should I add/remove anything?
3. Any warnings?

U don't need pct.

U most definitely will not gain "6 lbs of lean muscle" on this "cycle". It's not even a cycle . Nothing real in it. Why use masteron at this dose with these compounds?

[wildcat90]

U don't need pct.

U most definitely will not gain "6 lbs of lean muscle" on this "cycle". It's not even a cycle . Nothing real in it. Why use masteron at this dose with these compounds?

you're saying I should reduce/increase masteron?

[wildcat90]

How about now?

Week 1-6 - Stano tabs - 30mg/day
Week 1-6 - Sustanon - 250mg/week
Week 1-4 - Clen - 40-120mg/day (pyramid scheme)

[202-Freak]

How about now?

Week 1-6 - Stano tabs - 30mg/day
Week 1-6 - Sustanon - 250mg/week
Week 1-4 - Clen - 40-120mg/day (pyramid scheme)

Now that you're introducing some Sustanon into the mix, you could use that Masteron now 

[wildcat90]

Now that you're introducing some Sustanon into the mix, you could use that Masteron now 

Must I? Hate jabbing myself so often. Is it ok I do without it?

[202-Freak]

It depends on how your body aromatizes that Sustanon. Some people convert Testosterone to estrogen very easily (even in low dosages), so you may need the Masteron to keep your estrogen in check. You also may NOT need it, but this is something you'll have to learn by trial and error.

[wildcat90]

It depends on how your body aromatizes that Sustanon. Some people convert Testosterone to estrogen very easily (even in low dosages), so you may need the Masteron to keep your estrogen in check. You also may NOT need it, but this is something you'll have to learn by trial and error.

Alright. Thanks loads. I've tried sus twice already and gyno/side effects weren't prevalent when I took it.

[AbrahamG]

Yea, I thought he meant that too. But see, I want this to be my last cycle. I love bodybuilding, but there are many other things I'm working on so my priority after this cycle is to be able to keep 100% of my gains without having to jab myself anymore - period. So my goal is to get as big and lean as I can to the point which I can maintain with no more cycles. Am I close to that point?



Looking at my explanation above, do you still recommend this? As for winny, if you recommend I up my dosage, do you think I should stick with orals or move to injectables?


So... any constructive help you can give?

You have a very thick cock.  (No Homo)  Is that better?