thanks b,,dj,drj for the props,,what these guys do with themselves ,what they take,periods to do it in,,small window to do it and be successful is one in a million,,,,and for decades and come out looking good in the end,labrada,demey, vince taylor come to mind still built and not crippled,or torn up.the rigors for yrs thses guys do to get on stage yr after yr and improve and try to hang with competition must be nuts.