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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Earl1972 on November 01, 2006, 11:24:36 AM
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LEVRONEITES YOU GOTTA SEE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8) 8) 8)
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LEVRONEITES YOU GOTTA SEE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8) 8) 8)
You're the only one.
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All hail the chief!!!
YIP
Zack
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Hurl1972 is wanking
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Hurl1972 is wanking
At least Levrone had a back...
...and real hair.
YIP
Zack
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At least Levrone had a back...
...and real hair.
YIP
Zack
What are you babbling about?
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Great genetics look how much Size he held onto now he has stopped.Good to see a Pro close to natural.
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Levrone is a god amongst mere mortals
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Levrone is awwwwwwwesome
This is true.
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bump for awesomeness 8)
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I think it's important to note that the clip doesn't even really get good until 2 minutes and about 25 seconds into it. That's the best part of it, so when you look at it don't just close after the first minute or so...
It's also interesting to note that it was Kevin's first Mr. Olympia and he placed second. I wanna make 2 observations about this.
1) There were components to his muscularity and aesthetic here that made him probably our favorite physique to look at in the whole show.
2) He still had flaws. His back, while cool to look at in some shots, was still very obviously overpowered by his shoulders and quad flare from the back. His calves were very weak there as well.
Now...how would you have placed him in this show? I don't think anyone would have had him first...because of his flaws, and because it was just his first Olympia-level showing, meaning that we all know he had plenty of time to improve...so I'm just saying...there are many intangibles that physique judgement in shows invariably involves that can't be discounted as legitimate.
Having said all that, I'll still say he was the best bodybuilder in that show. Paradox? Maybe, maybe not. Just food for thought.
And oh yeah, Earl, good lookin' out. ;D
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His quads overpowered his upper body. He didn't find the right balance until 95. However, Yates was still too much for him by then.
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One more thing...I've never seen lower lats and spinal erectors look quite like that. There's something very freaky about the way those looked there. For about one inch the length of his lower-most torso, he still had the waist of a 205 pounder from the back.
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...and real hair.
monster fro
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Wait...I just thought about something. Does anyone know if Shawn Ray's routine from that show is on YouTube?
I'd like to hear Shawn's thoughts on what year he feels was his best Olympia showing.
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Wait...I just thought about something. Does anyone know if Shawn Ray's routine from that show is on YouTube?
I'd like to hear Shawn's thoughts on what year he feels was his best Olympia showing.
probably the one he's posted pictures from a million times. 94? when he was 2nd to dorian i think
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Shawn's back was never elite. That's what held him back.
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Shawn's back was never elite. That's what held him back.
Well if you ask me, it's been as elite as you can achieve without it's ever having started to take on that "goonish" look. In some of those old Battle for the Olympia pics some of his best poses in the gym were him hitting his back I think.
And yeah, I guess right here's where we're talking about when back thickness is required to win the Mr. Olympia because of how dominating it is when 2 guys are side by side, but I think that developing a back like Haney's, Yates', or Coleman's is rarely anything that anyone takes on as a personal goal. Most people want a back like that of Ray or Wheeler.
I know what you're saying, though, Probecito. What year was this picture from? Wasn't this '97?
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Shawn's back was never elite. That's what held him back.
bwahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa ! U got jokes :D
Now dont spoil the moment by tellin me you actually mean it
u so craaaaaaaazzzzzy
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(http://www.repetrope.com/assets/content/Media02/galleries/11039/fullsize/11039-heath-p-16.jpg)
(http://www.repetrope.com/assets/content/Media02/galleries/14073/fullsize/14073-PVW-heath-p-11.jpg)
(http://www.repetrope.com/assets/content/Media02/galleries/14073/fullsize/14073-PVW-heath-p-17.jpg)
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(http://www.repetrope.com/assets/content/Media02/galleries/11039/fullsize/11039-heath-p-16.jpg)
(http://www.repetrope.com/assets/content/Media02/galleries/14073/fullsize/14073-PVW-heath-p-11.jpg)
(http://www.repetrope.com/assets/content/Media02/galleries/14073/fullsize/14073-PVW-heath-p-17.jpg)
There are a number of bodybuilders that Phil Heath is not "better than." When Flex magazine spoke of him as the next Flex Wheeler, let's keep in mind exactly what that meant...it meant that when Flex Wheeler first came onto the scene, as did Heath recently, that Flex Wheeler was THE FIRST Flex Wheeler...not THE NEXT anybody else.
Like Richard Jones was the next Shawn Ray. Shawn Ray wasn't the next anybody. He was "Shawn Ray: View and adjust your perception of perfection accordingly." You didn't need to tie his image to anyone better than him. Which is what a comparison like that requires.
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put that in your paper TJ
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put that in your paper TJ.
Now THAT SHOT of Heath is sick. 8) That's the best one of him out, isn't it? Ha ha...not sure if I'd ever seen that one. But still, I've never found him especially appealing for whatever reason. He's far behind Dexter, Dugdale, Ray, Levrone, and Wheeler IMO and I'm willing to bet that he won't match that condition right there in that picture again. Maybe if he grew some hair or something. His head's too round maybe. Ha ha. I don't know what it is about him...I'm just not a big fan.
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Well if you ask me, it's been as elite as you can achieve without it's ever having started to take on that "goonish" look. In some of those old Battle for the Olympia pics some of his best poses in the gym were him hitting his back I think.
And yeah, I guess right here's where we're talking about when back thickness is required to win the Mr. Olympia because of how dominating it is when 2 guys are side by side, but I think that developing a back like Haney's, Yates', or Coleman's is rarely anything that anyone takes on as a personal goal. Most people want a back like that of Ray or Wheeler.
I know what you're saying, though, Probecito. What year was this picture from? Wasn't this '97?
I believe that's from 96. With both Dorian and Ronnie, when they turned around they got better. Shawn on the other hand, it was kind of a let down when he turned around. For example, on BFTO 96 he looked amazing from the front, but when he turned around it just wasn't as awesome as the front.
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Heath isn't appealing because all things considered he's quite narrow. He essentially has everything you'd want in an aesthetic pro except a decent width.
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Heath isn't appealing because all things considered he's quite narrow. He essentially has everything you'd want in an aesthetic pro except a decent width.
Yeah and I don't think his facial features are sharp enough for my tastes. I know that's an interesting observation but I still think it to be significant enough here to mention. Yes, most consider him good looking...but not "dashing." Chicks would call his good looks "sweet" or "adorable."
dashing: lively and spirited; "a dashing hero"
dapper: marked by up-to-dateness in dress and manners; "a dapper young man"; "a jaunty red hat"
The best magazine cover models have all been "dashing." It's the only way I know how to put it.
Matt C, discuss. ;)
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Heath isn't appealing because all things considered he's quite narrow. He essentially has everything you'd want in an aesthetic pro except a decent width.
although im a huge fan of heath. first bc of his amazing seperation and condition throughout, plus the fact that hes so good effortlessly... but he is very narrow for someone with sup. so much "potential"... with a high chest that scrunches together in a lot of poses... theres just not alot more places where he can put quality mass.... huge arms, huge quads/calves, but with narrow clavicles
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I think it's important to note that the clip doesn't even really get good until 2 minutes and about 25 seconds into it. That's the best part of it, so when you look at it don't just close after the first minute or so...
It's also interesting to note that it was Kevin's first Mr. Olympia and he placed second. I wanna make 2 observations about this.
1) There were components to his muscularity and aesthetic here that made him probably our favorite physique to look at in the whole show.
2) He still had flaws. His back, while cool to look at in some shots, was still very obviously overpowered by his shoulders and quad flare from the back. His calves were very weak there as well.
Now...how would you have placed him in this show? I don't think anyone would have had him first...because of his flaws, and because it was just his first Olympia-level showing, meaning that we all know he had plenty of time to improve...so I'm just saying...there are many intangibles that physique judgement in shows invariably involves that can't be discounted as legitimate.
Having said all that, I'll still say he was the best bodybuilder in that show. Paradox? Maybe, maybe not. Just food for thought.
And oh yeah, Earl, good lookin' out. ;D
great post jeff :)
i would've had him first 8)
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Heath needs to bring up his arms a little, not disproportionate enough.
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his arms are some of the best in the world, however i cant get past how small his chest looks in some poses.
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Levrone is a god amongst mere mortals
Now your "god" looks like a tennis player! Was he expeled from "Heaven"? ;D
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Now your "god" looks like a tennis player! Was he expeled from "Heaven"? ;D
yeah it's kind of hard to have noticeable muscle when you don't eat protein or train ::)
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(http://www.repetrope.com/assets/content/Media02/galleries/11039/fullsize/11039-heath-p-16.jpg)
(http://www.repetrope.com/assets/content/Media02/galleries/14073/fullsize/14073-PVW-heath-p-11.jpg)
(http://www.repetrope.com/assets/content/Media02/galleries/14073/fullsize/14073-PVW-heath-p-17.jpg)
fucking awesome..he ain't that narrow..he is just perfect.fuckin thick as a brick.my guess is he will win the arnold if martinez comes in off and that my friends will never happen....
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fucking awesome..he ain't that narrow..he is just perfect.fuckin thick as a brick.my guess is he will win the arnold if martinez comes in off and that my friends will never happen....
Top 5 for sure if he comes in shape. Who else are we looking at for that show now? Cormier, Dexter, Martinez, Heath...who else? Strydom's planning on doing the Ironman, so I'm sure he'll be looking for an Arnold invite if he doesn't already have one...is Dugdale doing the Arnold?
Now all we need is for Levrone to make a surprise comeback and we'd surely have the best pro lineup we've seen in years.
Heath's pretty good...I just don't like the shape of his abs, really. I think it's cause mine are gonna have to get better...but just like everything else, of course. :P
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Even though Heath has a very aesthetic physique, there is still something that just doesn't look quite right to me. I think its because his abs are weird looking and he is kinda narrow. He still looks awesome, but he just doesn't have that flow that guys like Flex or Shawn did.
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Heath is an awsome BB especially because he is just in his 1st year as an IFBB pro. The changes he has made from just the USA to his pro debut were unbelievable! Give him a chance and see how he improves from this year to the Arnold next year. You guys are already judging him like he is peaked out already, and you don't even have a clue how he is looking currently, or how he used to look 5 years ago. I'm not a huge fan either but I train at the same gym and have seen him improve and grow the last couple years like no one else. Ronnie looked nothing like his best for probably the first 4-5 years of his career but he kept improving every year. No one knows how Phil will end up looking 5 years from now but I guarantee he'll probably be better then 95% of all the IFBB pros out there, narrow shoulders, high chest and all! The funny thing is Phil does'nt talk any shit or gossip, he is'nt all wrapped up in all the weird ,crazy,f@#ked up stuff in the BB world. In my opinion We need more bb's like him and a lot less guys like Titus, Prince and the never ending list of idiots. It's called bodybuilding for a reason. Give him some time and we shall all see. He is already acomplished more in one year then most Pros do in there whole career.
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Heath may have the melvin anthony syndrome, i.e. a big head wich makes everything look small.
About kevrone, one thing that prevented him from being mr o is that he does not look good in what are probably the most essential poses, the front double biceps and the double bi. He looks ok but not great.
Most of the past mr o looked dominant in one of each or both.
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how did a levrone thread turn into a heath thread? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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