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Title: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: dj181 on November 08, 2013, 06:25:45 AM
how much weight can you pull for 10 good reps? if you even go that high in reps

also, how often do you pull?
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: Grape Ape on November 08, 2013, 12:32:07 PM
I've done 500 for 10.

It varies, but generally once a week.  You can see the frequency in the training thread on the Y......just don't post there.
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: dj181 on November 08, 2013, 01:35:49 PM
very impressive
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: chaos on November 08, 2013, 01:57:34 PM
I've done 500 for 8.
Then usually 545 for 6-8.

It varies, but generally once a week.  You can see the frequency in the training thread on the Y......just don't post there.
Edited.
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: Grape Ape on November 08, 2013, 05:04:49 PM
Edited.

Edited to not answer the question.
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: local hero on November 09, 2013, 02:42:57 AM
500 for 10 is impressive... 500 for 3 was my best from the floor

ive never went past 8 reps on deads, just doesnt feel like a higher rep movement to me...
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: chaos on November 09, 2013, 06:37:46 AM
I'm still recovering but 500 for 8 still happens. Deads add mass, don't care what any little drug abusers say. 8)
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: local hero on November 09, 2013, 07:49:00 AM
i love deadlifting, shame my hamstrings dont,, ive chucked them for good, tore both hamies on separate occasions..... i do feel weaker/feebler for not doing them tho... traps/upperback/shoulder girdle definitely missing out

ive added dumbell squats to my leg routine and thats starting to help a little
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: dj181 on November 09, 2013, 09:03:29 AM
a decent powerlifter from my old gym tore a lat during his 2nd pull attempt at a meet some years back

here's a Texas badass by the name of Doug Young pulling right through his broken ribs which he broke during a squat attempt

fucking diesel badass is he 8)

Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: Henda on November 09, 2013, 09:52:08 AM
If he did indeed have broken ribs thats massiveley impressive.
It hurts to even raise your voice with broken ribs.
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: Grape Ape on November 09, 2013, 10:42:52 AM
I've switched to the trap bar for the time being.  I'm not in competition, and the movement feels better.
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: Yev33 on November 09, 2013, 05:55:44 PM
I'm still recovering but 500 for 8 still happens. Deads add mass, don't care what any little drug abusers say. 8)

x 1000
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: oni on November 09, 2013, 10:54:11 PM
I'm still recovering but 500 for 8 still happens. Deads add mass, don't care what any little drug abusers say. 8)

Yeah I am a little guy and my best pull is 245kg at 67.5kg. I'm pretty much all traps, rear delts and lats lol
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: dj181 on November 10, 2013, 03:08:06 AM
Yeah I am a little guy and my best pull is 245kg at 67.5kg. I'm pretty much all traps, rear delts and lats lol


what's your bench ;D
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: Wolfox on November 10, 2013, 04:31:40 AM
Normally I would say just do rack pulls but I think you DJ would benefit from deads.
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: oni on November 10, 2013, 03:32:18 PM

what's your bench ;D

I fucking hate you, jackass
105kg
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: dj181 on November 10, 2013, 03:38:20 PM
I fucking hate you, jackass
105kg

lol

you're right dude, i am a jackass ;D

Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: local hero on November 13, 2013, 11:41:15 AM
I've switched to the trap bar for the time being.  I'm not in competition, and the movement feels better.

trap bar is an excellent movement, i class it more of a quad movement tho, with a bit trap/ upper back chucked into the mix
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 13, 2013, 12:09:18 PM
Does anyone else find it easier if you don't set the weight on the floor between reps? What's that called, I forget?
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: dj181 on November 13, 2013, 12:31:53 PM
Does anyone else find it easier if you don't set the weight on the floor between reps? What's that called, I forget?

puts too much strain on the low back IMO
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: local hero on November 13, 2013, 12:59:52 PM
Does anyone else find it easier if you don't set the weight on the floor between reps? What's that called, I forget?


romanian deadlift?... i find them much harder, impossible to handle the same weight
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: WOOO on November 14, 2013, 02:15:33 AM
Does anyone else find it easier if you don't set the weight on the floor between reps? What's that called, I forget?

easier than slamming of my platform? hell no... easier than starting each rep from a static lift? yes...

i like to do my initial sets that way using a sumo stance... then i finish of with some low rep sets using a classic stance and bank a few at the end (i built the platform so might as well use it)... my neighbors dont complain because they're good peeps...
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: local hero on November 14, 2013, 10:59:39 AM
i think the positive thing about starting from static is you can make sure your back is set in perfect position, but i also credit this to hamstring tears
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 14, 2013, 07:38:35 PM
Yes, that's it...  Starting from static over and over is much harder for me.  Any good techniques for gaining strength at the bottom of the movement?
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: Yev33 on November 14, 2013, 08:23:46 PM
If it's easier to not reset on each rep then your legs are the weak point in your deadlift. If it's easier to reset and pull from a dead stop then your back is the weaker one out of the two. This is the same relationship as being stronger off the floor vs being stronger in the lock out. I have experienced both versions in my training. I have had periods when anything I could budge off the floor would come up. Then I had training cycles where I would get stuck just below the knees.
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: dj181 on November 14, 2013, 11:51:00 PM
Yes, that's it...  Starting from static over and over is much harder for me.  Any good techniques for gaining strength at the bottom of the movement?

nope, standing on a 4-6 inch platform is the best method for that, as it increases the range of motion, but be damn sure and keep your form tight if you there platform deads
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: WOOO on November 15, 2013, 03:11:23 AM
nope, standing on a 4-6 inch platform is the best method for that, as it increases the range of motion, but be damn sure and keep your form tight if you there platform deads


that's one method, you can also use dumbbell deadlifts from just over the toes (you have to get your whole body lower and it focuses on the hip-hinge part of the motion)... you can also deadlift in a rack with the safety bars set above the barbell at the knee level... this will isolate the bottom part of the movement
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: chaos on November 15, 2013, 05:57:40 AM
Platform/deficit deads never really helped me, though I never did them consistently for any period of time. Setting the pins in the cage and lifting up to them helped explosiveness but noisy as hell. I think cleans actually also helped quite a bit.

Good luck!
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: WOOO on November 15, 2013, 06:28:30 AM
Platform/deficit deads never really helped me, though I never did them consistently for any period of time. Setting the pins in the cage and lifting up to them helped explosiveness but noisy as hell. I think cleans actually also helped quite a bit.

Good luck!


i agree about the noise... but found value in the movement

cleans should be part of any training routine IMO regardless of goals...
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 15, 2013, 10:41:29 AM
cool, thanks guis!!!
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: chaos on November 15, 2013, 11:39:32 AM

i agree about the noise... but found value in the movement

cleans should be part of any training routine IMO regardless of goals...
Yeah I don't care about the noise but apparently other members do. ;D
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: Donny on November 15, 2013, 11:54:45 AM
so is that why your waist is so wide ? the Heavy Deads ??
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: chaos on November 15, 2013, 11:57:49 AM
so is that why your waist is so wide ? the Heavy Deads ??
It's called genetics, huge Viking joints/bone structure. 8)
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: Donny on November 15, 2013, 12:01:28 PM
It's called genetics, huge Viking joints/bone structure. 8)
aha...  ;D
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: WOOO on November 15, 2013, 02:00:08 PM
Yeah I don't care about the noise but apparently other members do. ;D


s'why i train at home... neighbors are used to me too...
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: dj181 on November 16, 2013, 05:07:37 AM
It's called genetics, huge Viking joints/bone structure. 8)

i thought you were Scotch-Irish ???
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: chaos on November 16, 2013, 07:38:14 AM
i thought you were Scotch-Irish ???
Lol. No.
Title: Re: question for chaos regarding deads
Post by: dj181 on November 16, 2013, 09:11:20 AM
Lol. No.

ok, so i guess that it's just Rodge Bacon who's the Scotch-Irish hillbilly

breed deep in the hills of Kentuck, right Rodge? ;D