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1 weekout from Barcelona.
Way harder than 2 weeks ago.
Will juicers kick my ass again? :-\
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we see striation in chest, calves and back but not quad ???
You look great doesn't matter where the judges place you. At the end of the day bodybuilding is the muscle.
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Why are you competing against juicers?
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Why are you competing against juicers?
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Cus I am very proud of my hard dedication.
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1 weekout from Barcelona.
Way harder than 2 weeks ago.
Will juicers kick my ass again? :-\
You really need to get a much darker tan to highlight your physique. You were way too light in your last ones
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You really need to get a much darker tan to highlight your physique. You were way too light in your last ones
Listen to the expert ::)
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Listen to the expert ::)
Goodrum takes pride in tanning, trunks and posing oils :D
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Listen to the expert ::)
he's teh charles glass of getbig
;D
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good job Kyomu, looking great
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Cus I am very proud of my hard dedication.
I commend you for that, but going into a competition where the other competitors are juiced except for yourself is like entering Nascar with a bike. Your dedication might be great, but why not just enter a natural competition where no one has an obvious advantage and everyone else has dedicated as much hard work as you have?
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1 weekout from Barcelona.
Way harder than 2 weeks ago.
Will juicers kick my ass again? :-\
Wow, your progress = great. Good work dear Kyomu :D
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I commend you for that, but going into a competition where the other competitors are juiced except for yourself is like entering Nascar with a bike. Your dedication might be great, but why not just enter a natural competition where no one has an obvious advantage and everyone else has dedicated as much hard work as you have?
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Because my bike tecnic own 90% of Nacar drivers in gyms around me.
Why not?
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I commend you for that, but going into a competition where the other competitors are juiced except for yourself is like entering Nascar with a bike. Your dedication might be great, but why not just enter a natural competition where no one has an obvious advantage and everyone else has dedicated as much hard work as you have?
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The competitor who loses in natural competition has the option of reducing the other competitor's success to prior performance enhancment...
Bodybuilding is the muscle... no doubt about it
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Because my bike tecnic own 90% of Nacar drivers in gyms around me.
Why not?
So you'd much rather keep entering these contests, end up dead last and keep hoping for a miracle to happen come judging time?
All for the love of a plastic trophy huh?
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All for the love of a plastic trophy huh?
In this case the product of accomplishment is a multifaceted one, cannot be reduced to plastic.
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So you'd much rather keep entering these contests, end up dead last and keep hoping for a miracle to happen come judging time?
All for the love of a plastic trophy huh?
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Maybe quantum theory will help him out.
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In this case the product of accomplishment is a multifaceted one, cannot be reduced to plastic.
Agreed. Kyomu = obviously enjoying what he = doing, and that enjoyment = not just derived from the placing. If competing against druggies is fine with him, then he should do it.
And those last pictures = pretty good. If he can improve his shape further, he might place up in the ranks. For fucks sake, he almost ended up in in 2 place in his last competition.
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In this case the product of accomplishment is a multifaceted one, cannot be reduced to plastic.
I know exactly what it can be reduced to....
(http://vitanetonline.com/images/products/U340504.jpg)+(http://www.sammerch.com/product/image/10/thong_lg.jpg)+(http://img263.echo.cx/img263/60/untitled1on.jpg) = BODYBUILDING
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Agreed. Kyomu = obviously enjoying what he = doing, and that enjoyment = not just derived from the placing. If competing against druggies is fine with him, then he should do it.
And those last pictures = pretty good. If he can improve his shape further, he might place up in the ranks. For fucks sake, he almost ended up in in 2 place in his last competition.
Seems like old german cyanide have leaked out in the norwegian water supplies again...
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Seems like old german cyanide have leaked out in the norwegian water supplies again...
Debussey does not drink water, only urine straight from the tap.
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Debussey does not drink water, only urine straight from the tap.
Likewise, I only drink urine, straight from the cock..
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So you'd much rather keep entering these contests, end up dead last and keep hoping for a miracle to happen come judging time?
All for the love of a plastic trophy huh?
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I dont train for the plastic trophy.
I compete with the feeling as if i fight against a animal like bear or tiger.
If you are very good fighter, you feel like fight against Lion,Tiger,Bear...etc.
Spmething kind like that.
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Likewise, I only drink urine, straight from the cock..
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When will Team Mower step up again? Any news from that little weirdo? Is he still doing his christian thing? :D
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I dont train for the plastic trophy.
I compete with the feeling as if i fight against a animal like bear or tiger.
If you are very good fighter, you feel like fight against Lion,Tiger,Bear...etc.
Spmething kind like that.
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/ninja-12.jpg)
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What does Pooco have to say about you staying clean?
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Agreed. Kyomu = obviously enjoying what he = doing, and that enjoyment = not just derived from the placing. If competing against druggies is fine with him, then he should do it.
And those last pictures = pretty good. If he can improve his shape further, he might place up in the ranks. For fucks sake, he almost ended up in in 2 place in his last competition.
Yes, According to the people, even i was carrying more mass than first place guy. So hardness is the key.
We want to see if we increase the hardness and what will happen.
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I dont train for the plastic trophy.
I compete with the feeling as if i fight against a animal like bear or tiger.
If you are very good fighter, you feel like fight against Lion,Tiger,Bear...etc.
Spmething kind like that.
Yes! You gotta love this guy ;D
In all seriousness, Debussey can identify with what you are talking about. There = something special about becoming really really good in something, investing thousands of hours perfecting your art, and then going toe to toe with some other great people to see who's the best. When having put in thousands of hours into something, being able to compete and test yourself feels so much better, especially when winning.
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Yes! You gotta love this guy ;D
In all seriousness, Debussey can identify with what you are talking about. There = something special about becoming really really good in something, investing thousands of hours perfecting your art, and then going toe to toe with some other great people to see who's the best. When having put in thousands of hours into something, being able to compete and test yourself feels so much better, especially when winning.
What is Debussey's area of expertise?
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What does Pooco have to say about you staying clean?
Actualy, he admires me a lot.
And he says that I know what i am doing unlike others who pay almost 2000euro for tiny amateur show.
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What is Debussey's area of expertise?
Living in the norwegian sewers and wanking to rat porn.
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What is Debussey's area of expertise?
Gary Busey appreciation.
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Yes! You gotta love this guy ;D
In all seriousness, Debussey can identify with what you are talking about. There = something special about becoming really really good in something, investing thousands of hours perfecting your art, and then going toe to toe with some other great people to see who's the best. When having put in thousands of hours into something, being able to compete and test yourself feels so much better, especially when winning.
Yes. You understand me completely.
More than competition, ITS A GRADUATION TEST of my bbing career for me
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(http://earthfirst.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/bodybuilder.jpg)
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Gary Busey appreciation.
You seem to have good knowledge of getbig too.
e.g. mower, fagger/spermer/haider, X board loonies, Dyke Lucy Arvilla, Adonix + many many more
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Yes. You understand me completely.
More than competition, ITS A GRADUATION TEST of my bbing career for me
Exactly! When you've invested so much into something, the thing becomes a part of you, and the graduation test will carry much more meaning. Especially when you truly love the thing.
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kyomu is not gay.
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You seem to have good knowledge of getbig too.
e.g. mower, fagger/spermer/haider, X board loonies, Dyke Lucy Arvilla, Adonix + many many more
Been here since late 2003. Debussey was part of that original mega-owning of Dyke Lucy when he first got here with his friend Gracie Alexis :D
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Is it dedication or insecurity?
Competing against juicers means there's always an excuse for not winning. :)
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kyomu is not gay.
Since meeting many stupid women, sometime i wish i would be a bi.(Gay no, cus gay is also limited)
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Is it dedication or insecurity?
Competing against juicers means there's always an excuse for not winning. :)
I will be in the natural show too. ;)
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Is it dedication or insecurity?
Competing against juicers means there's always an excuse for not winning. :)
You can also see it from another point of view: That he's got balls for stepping up and competing against roiders naturally (and perhaps being somewhat competitive).
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Good job......you are much much harder this time around.
Good luck and bring it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Good job......you are much much harder this time around.
Good luck and bring it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was the first thing that struck Debussey as well.
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That was the first thing that struck Debussey as well.
Debussey likes his studs hard and sticky?
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(and perhaps being somewhat competitive).
Last place is not "competitive".
Good luck to kyomu though.
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Good job......you are much much harder this time around.
Good luck and bring it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes, that's exactly what struck me when I looked at his crotch
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Good luck kyomu! :-*
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Last place is not "competitive".
Good luck to kyomu though.
He almost got 2nd this time around, almost beat a roider.
Debussey likes his studs hard and sticky?
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Good luck kyomu! :-*
Hey there homeboy/slimjim, how are you doing? ;D
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I will be in the natural show too. ;)
Awesome!
Looking great but it's hard to tell how you'll stack up against juicers. At least your long term health will be better.
You can also see it from another point of view: That he's got balls for stepping up and competing against roiders naturally (and perhaps being somewhat competitive).
It's doubtful most people have the genetics necessary to present the size and conditioning needed for success in an untested show. Someone short (5'5") might have a decent chance (against a weak field) if their carb/fluid/muscle management are perfect but not normal sized people. Without juice, most natties probably don't get enough stimulation of their weak areas. Just this morning I saw some back shots that looked really good but it seemed like neither of them had even ever walked by a squat rack. Training and dieting to present a balanced physique daily is tough, forget about what most people look like after dieting for 12-16 weeks and trying to peak on a certain day.
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Awesome!
Looking great but it's hard to tell how you'll stack up against juicers. At least your long term health will be better.
It's doubtful most people have the genetics necessary to present the size and conditioning needed for success in an untested show. Someone short (5'5") might have a decent chance (against a weak field) if their carb/fluid/muscle management are perfect but not normal sized people. Without juice, most natties probably don't get enough stimulation of their weak areas. Just this morning I saw some back shots that looked really good but it seemed like neither of them had even ever walked by a squat rack. Training and dieting to present a balanced physique daily is tough, forget about what most people look like after dieting for 12-16 weeks and trying to peak on a certain day.
Agree with that. Debussey's comment on him perhaps being somewhat competitive came from Kyomu coming close to beating a roider in his last show and getting second (that's at least how Debussey understood his comment).
Based on his recent pics, Debussey thinks that he might have a chance to be somewhat competitive against one or a few guys he = competing against. Debussey did not mean "candidate for 1st place" when it said "competitive", it meant that he had a chance to place ahead of one or a few roiders.
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Good luck kyomu! :-*
Wow :-[ ;D
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Agree with that. Debussey's comment on him perhaps being somewhat competitive came from Kyomu coming close to beating a roider in his last show and getting second (that's at least how Debussey understood his comment).
Based on his recent pics, Debussey thinks that he might have a chance to be somewhat competitive against one or a few guys he = competing against. Debussey did not mean "candidate for 1st place" when it said "competitive", it meant that he had a chance to place ahead of one or a few roiders.
I'd love for more guys like him to win untested shows.
In the long run naturals winning shows would save a lot of money, liver cells and prevent few people who don't have good genetics from risking their health.
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Awesome!
Looking great but it's hard to tell how you'll stack up against juicers. At least your long term health will be better.
It's doubtful most people have the genetics necessary to present the size and conditioning needed for success in an untested show. Someone short (5'5") might have a decent chance (against a weak field) if their carb/fluid/muscle management are perfect but not normal sized people. Without juice, most natties probably don't get enough stimulation of their weak areas. Just this morning I saw some back shots that looked really good but it seemed like neither of them had even ever walked by a squat rack. Training and dieting to present a balanced physique daily is tough, forget about what most people look like after dieting for 12-16 weeks and trying to peak on a certain day.
From my experience, most of natty can get very good size(like 20inchs arms) with abs.
But, with the contest quality....very hard unless you have super genetics.
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Wow :-[ ;D
dude, you got taco flavored kisses.
I am jealous
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I'd love for more guys like him to win untested shows.
In the long run naturals winning shows would save a lot of money, liver cells and prevent few people who don't have good genetics from risking their health.
Yes. Its a dream for natties that beating juicers. I believe not only for natty, but also every bodybuilders(including juicers).
I am really admired by my gym mates and fellow competitors in that mean.
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dude, you got taco flavored kisses.
I am jealous
Sorry that the song is very short...
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Great physique.
Still a bit too soft though, especially in the legs but therefore you maintained quite a lot of muscle.
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You look awesome. Agree with Goodrum though, you need a tan, bad. That will make you look much better. Get sprayed then do the pro tan thing, asap.
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Agree with that. Debussey's comment on him perhaps being somewhat competitive came from Kyomu coming close to beating a roider in his last show and getting second (that's at least how Debussey understood his comment).
Based on his recent pics, Debussey thinks that he might have a chance to be somewhat competitive against one or a few guys he = competing against. Debussey did not mean "candidate for 1st place" when it said "competitive", it meant that he had a chance to place ahead of one or a few roiders.
Wow! You understand me perfectly! If I can get 3rd place or something, I will buy beers to all gym mates!
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Great physique.
Still a bit too soft though, especially in the legs but therefore you maintained quite a lot of muscle.
Yes. Leg and glutes are not dialed in yet.
But, Paco is watching out carefuly if i get bit better leg cut expence of the hardness of upper body. We dont want it.
Difficult...
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You look awesome. Agree with Goodrum though, you need a tan, bad. That will make you look much better. Get sprayed then do the pro tan thing, asap.
I have 1 whole bottle of Pro Tan still. :)
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Kyomu, you look better than before...i hope this final week of depleting and loading goes perfectly for you.
I was wondering why dont you start a cycle? Im sure Paco has some of the best connections in Europe regarding drug quality.
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Kyomu, you look better than before...i hope this final week of depleting and loading goes perfectly for you.
I was wondering why dont you start a cycle? Im sure Paco has some of the best connections in Europe regarding drug quality.
The bbing is the quest of human power of our deep conciousness for me.
I prefer use my legs to run more than use bike for knowing my body and mental limit.
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Looking good brother.
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The bbing is the quest of human power of our deep conciousness for me.
Do you feel that you get closer to yourself + changed relationship to yourself in a way when you go through hard training and do whatever it takes?
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kyomu is a wise man
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Do you feel that you get closer to yourself + changed relationship to yourself in a way when you go through hard training and do whatever it takes?
Honestly saying,more harder go, even deeper i see and i feel myself using a tiny bit of huge power hiding in my brain.
If we liberate that, we even may win the Mr.O with natural state...Its my opinion.
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Honestly saying,more harder go, even deeper i see and i feel myself using a tiny bit of huge power hiding in my brain.
If we liberate that, we even may win the Mr.O with natural state...Its my opinion.
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Honestly saying,more harder go, even deeper i see and i feel myself using a tiny bit of huge power hiding in my brain.
If we liberate that, we even may win the Mr.O with natural state...Its my opinion.
ok now I don't agree ;D
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kyomu is the ying to my yang
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kyomu is the ying to my yang
Gôclu Ataturk, calm down.
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ok now I don't agree ;D
Of course, nobody will liberate it. It will take astronomical time and mental power.
Maybe Phil Heath liberate 1.5% and you liberate 2 %.
But, Phil Heath will never beat your 50% with his 1.5%.
Its a example.
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Kyomu abs dissapear at last show, i hope this not happen again or much sad time on getbig
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Kyomu abs dissapear at last show, i hope this not happen again or much sad time on getbig
Yes. I have to keep on flexing it. Paco is always pointing out it also.
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Kyomu, what have you been doing for the last two weeks? Are you doing more cardio, cutting salt or cycling water etc? Great job and good luck!
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Kyomu, what have you been doing for the last two weeks? Are you doing more cardio, cutting salt or cycling water etc? Great job and good luck!
Less cardio. Moderate carb. Low intensity training.
I have already cut salt since 1 month ago.
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Props for competing against juiced dudes Kyumo. Good luck!
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Of course, nobody will liberate it. It will take astronomical time and mental power.
Maybe Phil Heath liberate 1.5% and you liberate 2 %.
But, Phil Heath will never beat your 50% with his 1.5%.
Its a example.
Let me guess, quantum theory?
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You really need to get a much darker tan to highlight your physique. You were way too light in your last ones
Vince training is more important. Hate to break it to you.
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Props for competing against juiced dudes Kyumo. Good luck!
Thanx,mate. ;)
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Let me guess, quantum theory?
If you want to debate about science, First you must read some books.
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If you want to debate about science, First you must read some books.
Dude you didn't even know what a metaphor is and you think everything is god and that eastern philosophers have gained more knowledge than western science. And now you claim it's possible that you can be bigger than Phil Heath without hormones.
I may not know every aspect of quantum theory (who does?) or be able to name every bullshitzynol crackpot far eastern philosophy there is, but I'm not as deluded you are.
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When will Team Mower step up again? Any news from that little weirdo? Is he still doing his christian thing? :D
Things have been quiet on that front..
The age of Mower is far and gone now. Modern technology and chemical warfare has allowed for the introduction of synthetic neck-growth hormones that has practically rendered the freak of nature, that is Mower, obsolete.
There are many of us lurking in the shadows waiting for a second calling, but until the day arises or until someone picks up the torch to lead us, we shall remain anonymous...
(http://ehs.okstate.edu/modules/mower/Mower.gif)
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Dude you didn't even know what a metaphor is and you think everything is god and that eastern philosophers have gained more knowledge than western science. And now you claim it's possible that you can be bigger than Phil Heath without hormones.
I may not know every aspect of quantum theory (who does?) or be able to name every bullshitzynol crackpot far eastern philosophy there is, but I'm not as deluded you are.
Epic prejudice.
I didnt say anything like that.
Just You think that the science is the absolute thing.
Every science experiment begin with the logical theory. To prove if it is correct or not, scientists do the experiment.
So, how is that experiment is correct or not? How can we say? Even the experiment is correct, how can you say that our conciousness is perfect to understand it?
Plus, that logical theory is based on "something other concept" since humanbeing cant invent any concept BY BIRTH.
So where is that concept coming from? Maybe the enviromental situation like the education from the society(Since this society is controled by the moral based on religion...etc)?
From this point of view, The science is same fragile as religion.
Thats what I am saying.
P.S. The doctor of now a day say that we are capable tp live 300yrs if we dont have any mental stress. ITS A SCENTIST COMMENT. Whats do you say?
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Epic prejudice.
I didnt say anything like that.
Just You think that the science is the absolute thing.
Every science experiment begin with the logical theory. To prove if it is correct or not, scientists do the experiment.
So, how is that experiment is correct or not? How can we say? Even the experiment is correct, how can you say that our conciousness is perfect to understand it?
Plus, that logical theory is based on "something other concept" since humanbeing cant invent any concept BY BIRTH.
So where is that concept coming from? Maybe the enviromental situation like the education from the society(Since this society is controled by the moral based on religion...etc)?
From this point of view, The science is same fragile as religion.
Thats what I am saying.
P.S. The doctor of now a day say that we are capable tp live 300yrs if we dont have any mental stress. ITS A SCENTIST COMMENT. Whats do you say?
We've gone over this multiple times in the other thread. I said that claiming to know something for a FACT is a compromise, but it's a very good one and have taken us very far in gaining knowledge, especially in western science. It's very rare for your theory to have any practical implications, if any at all.
Epic prejudice. I didnt say anything like that.
You didn't say this?
Honestly saying,more harder go, even deeper i see and i feel myself using a tiny bit of huge power hiding in my brain.
If we liberate that, we even may win the Mr.O with natural state...Its my opinion.
Do you have any sort of evidence (ok, compromised evidence ::)) for this? what do you base it on?
Of course, nobody will liberate it. It will take astronomical time and mental power.
Maybe Phil Heath liberate 1.5% and you liberate 2 %.
But, Phil Heath will never beat your 50% with his 1.5%.
Its a example.
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We've gone over this multiple times in the other thread. I said that claiming to know something for a FACT is a compromise, but it's a very good one and have taken us very far in gaining knowledge, especially in western science. It's very rare for your theory to have any practical implications, if any at all.
You didn't say this?
Do you have any sort of evidence (ok, compromised evidence ::)) for this? what do you base it on?
Oh....
Still saying.....
Again. Th knowdge wont gain. Its a scientific common sence. Every scientist say" More study, more enigma". They experience they open a door ,two doors appears, two doors open and 4 doors appear....etc
New idea is always created by destroying old idea. Every scientists say that we are in dilemma of knowlegd and we didnt create new concept since Greek age.
You misunderstand tecnology progress and Scientific progress. Surely tecnological progress is outstanding from our point of view.
But, when it comes to science, our concept is same as the ancient world.
In macro physic, western concept was still useful. But, when it comes to Micro physic, they couldnt the handle the bizzare truth of the action of those samll particles. Then they get the concept from Taoism. I didnt say what is superior or inferior. Its just truth.
About muscle growth and our under conciousness, I have certain theory but I dont have proof. Thats why I emphasize saying "my opinion". And I try to see if its true or not. Thats why Its called "quest".
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I commend you for that, but going into a competition where the other competitors are juiced except for yourself is like entering Nascar with a bike. Your dedication might be great, but why not just enter a natural competition where no one has an obvious advantage and everyone else has dedicated as much hard work as you have?
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the trouble with this rational is that if K. places last; everyone else was on juice. now, if he beats 1 guy, does that mean he is now a juicer? because the guy who now places last is going to say, "i was clean, the only reason i placed last is that Everyone else was on juice!!" this includes Kyomo!! placing last isn''t a gaurentee that you are the only clean guy in the show.
some guys look great natural (Kyomo - good job Bro!!). but some guys look better than him natural, and some guys look worse than him while drugged.
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the trouble with this rational is that if K. places last; everyone else was on juice. now, if he beats 1 guy, does that mean he is now a juicer? because the guy who now places last is going to say, "i was clean, the only reason i placed last is that Everyone else was on juice!!" this includes Kyomo!! placing last isn''t a gaurentee that you are the only clean guy in the show.
some guys look great natural (Kyomo - good job Bro!!). but some guys look better than him natural, and some guys look worse than him while drugged.
Good post as usual.
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Kyomu what does Paco reccomends for training? high volume medium or low?
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Kyomu what does Paco reccomends for training? high volume medium or low?
Depends.
Mostly High.
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Depends.
Mostly High.
hehe, i just arrived, checked my mails, checked getbig, now i'll be down to the supermarket!
Thanks again for the good time!
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Oh....
Still saying.....
Again. Th knowdge wont gain. Its a scientific common sence. Every scientist say" More study, more enigma". They experience they open a door ,two doors appears, two doors open and 4 doors appear....etc
New idea is always created by destroying old idea. Every scientists say that we are in dilemma of knowlegd and we didnt create new concept since Greek age.
You misunderstand tecnology progress and Scientific progress. Surely tecnological progress is outstanding from our point of view.
But, when it comes to science, our concept is same as the ancient world.
In macro physic, western concept was still useful. But, when it comes to Micro physic, they couldnt the handle the bizzare truth of the action of those samll particles. Then they get the concept from Taoism. I didnt say what is superior or inferior. Its just truth.
About muscle growth and our under conciousness, I have certain theory but I dont have proof. Thats why I emphasize saying "my opinion". And I try to see if its true or not. Thats why Its called "quest".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science)
"In its broadest sense, science (from the Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") refers to any systematic knowledge or practice. In its more usual restricted sense, science refers to a system of acquiring knowledge based on scientific method, as well as to the organized body of knowledge gained through such research."
Would you be more happy if we used the word "acquired" instead of "gained"? Or are you ready to combat the general definition of science?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science)
"In its broadest sense, science (from the Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") refers to any systematic knowledge or practice. In its more usual restricted sense, science refers to a system of acquiring knowledge based on scientific method, as well as to the organized body of knowledge gained through such research."
Would you be more happy if we used the word "acquired" instead of "gained"? Or are you ready to combat the general definition of science?
... or you could simply shut up and i post some exclusive "1-week-out"-shots from the kitchen, starring kyomu. ;D ;D
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... or you could simply shut up and i post some exclusive "1-week-out"-shots from the kitchen, starring kyomu. ;D ;D
Haha, Famous kitchen shot. ;D
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Will juicers kick my ass again? :-\
even if you do come last behind juicers...they would not have kicked your ass....remember that!!!
you are kicking their asses mate...props to you and well done drug free!!! awesome!
hold your head high.
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even if you do come last behind juicers...they would not have kicked your ass....remember that!!!
you are kicking their asses mate...props to you and well done drug free!!! awesome!
hold your head high.
Thanx.