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Title: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Borracho on February 16, 2013, 09:46:22 AM
Is this bad?

Why do people limit it to a few times a week?

I eat pork and or beef on a daily basis...I'm beginning to wonder if this is not the best thing for me.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 16, 2013, 10:38:28 AM
i ate a pound of bacon this morning

it was fucking great

meat is king
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Borracho on February 16, 2013, 01:23:15 PM
are you obese  ???
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Montague on February 16, 2013, 02:14:48 PM
Is this bad?

Why do people limit it to a few times a week?

I eat pork and or beef on a daily basis...I'm beginning to wonder if this is not the best thing for me.


Why?
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: a_ahmed on February 16, 2013, 03:14:37 PM
????????

I eat 1kg of lean chicken breast ED... Something I would hear from a girl "eating meat is bad for you" yeah okay lol.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Borracho on February 16, 2013, 03:18:50 PM

Why?

Haven't you ever heard that red meat should be limited to a couple times a week  ???

Something about increasing the chance of colon cancer of something like that.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 16, 2013, 03:20:20 PM
Haven't you ever heard that red meat should be limited to a couple times a week  ???

Something about increasing the chance of colon cancer of something like that.

hooey
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Borracho on February 16, 2013, 03:20:37 PM
I honestly don't even care even if it's true.... I'm here for a good time not a long time.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Borracho on February 16, 2013, 03:21:37 PM
hooey

What?
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Borracho on February 16, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
hooey

You're the one posting all these bullshit studies I'm sure you've seen something like this.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Borracho on February 16, 2013, 03:27:41 PM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23380943

Red and processed meat intake and risk of colorectal adenomas: a systematic review and meta-analysis of epidemiological studies.
Aune D, Chan DS, Vieira AR, Navarro Rosenblatt DA, Vieira R, Greenwood DC, Kampman E, Norat T.
Source

Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics, School of Public Health, Imperial College London, St. Mary's Campus, Norfolk Place, Paddington, London, W2 1PG, UK, d.aune@imperial.ac.uk.
Abstract
BACKGROUND:

Current evidence indicates that red and processed meat intake increases the risk of colorectal cancer; however, the association with colorectal adenomas is unclear.
OBJECTIVE:

To conduct a systematic review and meta-analysis of epidemiological studies of red and processed meat intake and risk of colorectal adenomas as part of the Continuous Update Project of the World Cancer Research Fund.
DESIGN:

PubMed and several other databases were searched for relevant studies from their inception up to 31 December 2011. Summary relative risks (RRs) were estimated using a random effects model.
RESULTS:

Nineteen case-control studies and seven prospective studies were included in the analyses. The summary RR per 100 g/day of red meat was 1.27 (95 % CI 1.16-1.40, I (2) = 5 %, n = 16) for all studies combined, 1.20 (95 % CI 1.06-1.36, I (2) = 0 %, n = 6) for prospective studies, and 1.34 (95 % CI 1.12-1.59, I (2) = 31 %, n = 10) for case-control studies. The summary RR per 50 g/day of processed meat intake was 1.29 (95 % CI 1.10-1.53, I (2) = 27 %, n = 10) for all studies combined, 1.45 (95 % CI 1.10-1.90, I (2) = 0 %, n = 2) for prospective studies, and 1.23 (95 % CI 0.99-1.52, I (2) = 37 %, n = 8) for case-control studies. There was evidence of a nonlinear association between red meat (p (nonlinearity) < 0.001) and processed meat (p (nonlinearity) = 0.01) intake and colorectal adenoma risk.
CONCLUSION:

These results indicate an elevated risk of colorectal adenomas with intake of red and processed meat, but further prospective studies are warranted.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Borracho on February 16, 2013, 03:36:27 PM
God damn you guys...like I'm making this shit up lol.

And ahmed thinking he's all tough eating chicken breasts.  
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Montague on February 16, 2013, 03:46:50 PM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23380943

Red and processed meat intake and risk of colorectal adenomas: a systematic review and meta-analysis of epidemiological studies.
Aune D, Chan DS, Vieira AR, Navarro Rosenblatt DA, Vieira R, Greenwood DC, Kampman E, Norat T.
Source

Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics, School of Public Health, Imperial College London, St. Mary's Campus, Norfolk Place, Paddington, London, W2 1PG, UK, d.aune@imperial.ac.uk.
Abstract
BACKGROUND:

Current evidence indicates that red and processed meat intake increases the risk of colorectal cancer; however, the association with colorectal adenomas is unclear.
OBJECTIVE:

To conduct a systematic review and meta-analysis of epidemiological studies of red and processed meat intake and risk of colorectal adenomas as part of the Continuous Update Project of the World Cancer Research Fund.
DESIGN:

PubMed and several other databases were searched for relevant studies from their inception up to 31 December 2011. Summary relative risks (RRs) were estimated using a random effects model.
RESULTS:

Nineteen case-control studies and seven prospective studies were included in the analyses. The summary RR per 100 g/day of red meat was 1.27 (95 % CI 1.16-1.40, I (2) = 5 %, n = 16) for all studies combined, 1.20 (95 % CI 1.06-1.36, I (2) = 0 %, n = 6) for prospective studies, and 1.34 (95 % CI 1.12-1.59, I (2) = 31 %, n = 10) for case-control studies. The summary RR per 50 g/day of processed meat intake was 1.29 (95 % CI 1.10-1.53, I (2) = 27 %, n = 10) for all studies combined, 1.45 (95 % CI 1.10-1.90, I (2) = 0 %, n = 2) for prospective studies, and 1.23 (95 % CI 0.99-1.52, I (2) = 37 %, n = 8) for case-control studies. There was evidence of a nonlinear association between red meat (p (nonlinearity) < 0.001) and processed meat (p (nonlinearity) = 0.01) intake and colorectal adenoma risk.
CONCLUSION:

These results indicate an elevated risk of colorectal adenomas with intake of red and processed meat, but further prospective studies are warranted.


LOL!! I was just about to post this exact link! I love Pub Med, and it's one of my favorite resources.

Anyway, it's hard to find a consensus on this matter. Also, as I've mentioned before, I'm not particularly fond of epidemiological studies, but that doesn't mean they should be discounted, either.
I try to include a variety of meats in my daily diet, including turkey, venison, beef, fish, and sometimes chicken, which I don't exactly care for.

If you have colon issues, or they run in your family, you may do better to err on the side of caution.

But don't believe that "shit" about John Wayne having over 40 lbs of impacted fecal matter found in his colon post-mortem. There is no evidence of an autopsy having ever been performed, much less someone actually collecting and weighing the crap lodged in "the Duke's" colon.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Borracho on February 16, 2013, 04:01:12 PM
Speaking of fecal matter I just had some xrays on my lower lumbar done last week and there was a lot of shit in there lol. I have digestive issues I'm pretty sure...kinda.

Pubmed is great right...love that site too.

You know, I try to have variety but the truth is my body hates carbs so I load up on the protein and it's hard to vary the things I eat. This is what I eat everyday....tuna(mercury), whole eggs, pork tenderloin, beef steaks, and chicken breasts. Those are pretty much part of my staple and I will vary but only a few times a week.

But honestly... just trying to make conversation. The way I see it... if I get sick,get cancer and die I didn't deserve to live anyway.

Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: a_ahmed on February 16, 2013, 04:09:45 PM
God damn you guys...like I'm making this shit up lol.

And ahmed thinking he's all tough eating chicken breasts.  

 ;D
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 17, 2013, 05:03:54 AM
I ate 4 whole racks of ribs last night and survived.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: loco on February 17, 2013, 05:40:20 AM
Vegetarians are at higher risk colon cancer than meat eaters.

Vegetarians Have Fewer Cancers But Higher Risk Of Colorectal Cancer, Study

UK researchers found that vegetarians had a lower overall cancer rate than meat eaters, but contrary to suggestions from other studies, they found a higher rate of colorectal cancer among the vegetarians than among the meat eaters.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/142427.php

Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 17, 2013, 05:53:28 AM
You're the one posting all these bullshit studies I'm sure you've seen something like this.


i post studies... typically i do not post meta-analyses

meat is the original super food

herbivores eat high nutrient foods (grass) and concentrate it into steak perfection
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Borracho on February 17, 2013, 01:16:04 PM
;D

 :P

Vegetarians are at higher risk colon cancer than meat eaters.

Vegetarians Have Fewer Cancers But Higher Risk Of Colorectal Cancer, Study

UK researchers found that vegetarians had a lower overall cancer rate than meat eaters, but contrary to suggestions from other studies, they found a higher rate of colorectal cancer among the vegetarians than among the meat eaters.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/142427.php




They deserve it.










 ;D





i post studies... typically i do not post meta-analyses

meat is the original super food

herbivores eat high nutrient foods (grass) and concentrate it into steak perfection


I don't know how anyone can NOT eat meat....its sooooooo good!
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 17, 2013, 01:53:26 PM
I don't know how anyone can NOT eat meat....its sooooooo good!

no homo :)
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: supernick on February 18, 2013, 06:48:23 AM
i find lean meats to be ok but I try to limit things like bacon
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 18, 2013, 10:37:50 AM
i find lean meats to be ok but I try to limit things like bacon

everything in moderation
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: John on February 18, 2013, 07:30:39 PM
Is this bad?

Why do people limit it to a few times a week?

I eat pork and or beef on a daily basis...I'm beginning to wonder if this is not the best thing for me.

Not ideal.
I think this video explains it better than I can.

Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: wild willie on February 18, 2013, 10:27:47 PM
I usually eat a few slices of bacon on the weekends...... and will eat a ribeye 3 times a month.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 19, 2013, 03:26:22 AM
Not ideal.
I think this video explains it better than I can.




None of those issues are caused by meat consumption. Processed foods, simple glutamates and sugar are the issue in the American diet.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: John on February 19, 2013, 03:58:18 AM

None of those issues are caused by meat consumption. Processed foods, simple glutamates and sugar are the issue in the American diet.

I disagree. Granted yes processed junk is bad but these people saying this are doctors and hearts surgeons. They see the it firsthand. Like they said in the video its something the meat and dairy industry has been keeping from the piblic for years.
If what you're saying is true why is it that the Chinese have had zero cholesterol problems, coronary heart disease problems., cancer and Type 2 diabetes. Their history and data speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Donny on February 19, 2013, 04:00:21 AM
i ate a pound of bacon this morning

it was fucking great

meat is king
yeah..i have not had a great British Fry up in years .. bacon,eggs,beans,black pudding and maybe some scones...the scots here will know what i mean.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 19, 2013, 04:06:18 AM
I disagree. Granted yes processed junk is bad but these people saying this are doctors and hearts surgeons. They see the it firsthand. Like they said in the video its something the meat and dairy industry has been keeping from the piblic for years.
If what you're saying is true why is it that the Chinese have had zero cholesterol problems, coronary heart disease problems., cancer and Type 2 diabetes. Their history and data speaks for itself.


the chinese starve and are poisoned to death and their data is falsified by their government

check your sources

the lipid hypothesis has been disproved over and over again

your beliefs are irrelevant

Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: John on February 19, 2013, 06:37:00 PM

the chinese starve and are poisoned to death and their data is falsified by their government

check your sources

the lipid hypothesis has been disproved over and over again

your beliefs are irrelevant



Wow, opinionated aren't we. Mate even if I was right you'd still have something to come back with because you're an arrogent, opinionated pig. That's obvious after just reading through some of your posts. You can't even have a normal discussion without being a rude prick about it. I'd love to see you in real life your personal relationships and dealings with people must be wonderful. I couldn't even be bothered argueing the point with someone like you. I showed the video for the OP to see and to make up his own mind. Stats and data aren't 100% accurate anyway.
Do what you like. The proof is in the pudding (so to speak) as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Montague on February 19, 2013, 07:09:41 PM
Hey, it's almost Spring, and time once again to remind everyone of the rules of our beloved board: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=62144.msg935828#msg935828

Specifically:

1. Show common courtesy at all times. Know the difference between a difference of opinion and a personal attack. Don't engage in insults.

10. Members who violate forum rules will receive a warning, and continued violations may result in temporary or permanent loss of posting privileges. The moderators reserve the right to edit or delete posts that violate forum rules.



If you fall into category 1, consider yourself automatically enrolled in category 10.

Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: John on February 19, 2013, 09:25:21 PM
Hey, it's almost Spring, and time once again to remind everyone of the rules of our beloved board: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=62144.msg935828#msg935828

Specifically:

1. Show common courtesy at all times. Know the difference between a difference of opinion and a personal attack. Don't engage in insults.

10. Members who violate forum rules will receive a warning, and continued violations may result in temporary or permanent loss of posting privileges. The moderators reserve the right to edit or delete posts that violate forum rules.



If you fall into category 1, consider yourself automatically enrolled in category 10.



He came into MY thread and was being a smart as.  Called me a homo last night just because I didn't like some skinny chick. I had no problem with the guy until he started on the Homo bashing bullshit. To get get respect you have to show respect.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 20, 2013, 03:25:02 AM
He came into MY thread and was being a smart as.  Called me a homo last night just because I didn't like some skinny chick. I had no problem with the guy until he started on the Homo bashing bullshit. To get get respect you have to show respect.


john, you do not own the internet

besides... based on your posting history i thought you were comfortable going there:

Good comeback Fag.

the G&O and the Nutrition Board have different rules.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Montague on February 20, 2013, 04:31:16 AM
He came into MY thread and was being a smart as.  Called me a homo last night just because I didn't like some skinny chick. I had no problem with the guy until he started on the Homo bashing bullshit. To get get respect you have to show respect.


Different boards here permit different behavior. The G&O constitutes a more lenient, almost "anything goes" environment, while the serious boards like Training and Nutrition possess a much more civil etiquette.

You'll notice that WOOO may act like a troll on the main/top board, but he always behaves himself here. The same goes for quite a few of our members.
Ron purposely set up Getbig this way to allow for a variety of personalities and discussions.

Basically, just limit the fighting and name calling to the boards that allow it. But, know that the owner of this site has some rules even for those boards.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 20, 2013, 04:32:22 AM

Different boards here permit different behavior. The G&O constitutes a more lenient, almost "anything goes" environment, while the serious boards like Training and Nutrition possess a much more civil etiquette.

You'll notice that WOOO may act like a troll on the main/top board, but he always behaves himself here. The same goes for quite a few of our members.
Ron purposely set up Getbig this way to allow for a variety of personalities and discussions.

Basically, just limit the fighting and name calling to the boards that allow it. But, know that the owner of this site has some rules even for those boards.

Ron is a king among men!!
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Donny on February 20, 2013, 06:30:34 AM
Guys look what i found.... special for Wooo,,, ;D
http://www.cafepress.com/4makinbacon
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Donny on February 20, 2013, 06:35:59 AM
Ron is a king among men!!
Wooo stop lickin ass Bro---- one Mod on here banned me because of a pic but Ronald MacDonald saw the error of this injustice to my Honour. yeah he is OK..
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 20, 2013, 06:51:46 AM
Wooo stop lickin ass Bro---- one Mod on here banned me because of a pic but Ronald MacDonald saw the error of this injustice to my Honour. yeah he is OK..


i keep my enemies close and my Ron's even closer  :)
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Montague on February 20, 2013, 07:12:58 AM
Wooo stop lickin ass Bro---- one Mod on here banned me because of a pic but Ronald MacDonald saw the error of this injustice to my Honour. yeah he is OK..


Someone banned you on the Nutrition board?
Who?
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Donny on February 20, 2013, 09:42:30 AM

Someone banned you on the Nutrition board?
Who?
no was on another.. i think general topics if i remember correct... i posted a pic of a woman with a bottle in her snatch.. so next time i logged in it said in red that i could no longer post.. well fuck me i thought to myself ;D wrote to Ronald MacDonald and he said "Donny you are a naughty Boy".. so i told Ronald i would sell my soul to getbig if he let me stay. maybe the pic was over the top donīt know but i never took it to heart.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Borracho on February 20, 2013, 03:54:55 PM
no was on another.. i think general topics if i remember correct... i posted a pic of a woman with a bottle in her snatch.. so next time i logged in it said in red that i could no longer post.. well fuck me i thought to myself ;D wrote to Ronald MacDonald and he said "Donny you are a naughty Boy".. so i told Ronald i would sell my soul to getbig if he let me stay. maybe the pic was over the top donīt know but i never took it to heart.

LOL
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Montague on February 20, 2013, 04:47:58 PM
no was on another.. i think general topics if i remember correct... i posted a pic of a woman with a bottle in her snatch.. so next time i logged in it said in red that i could no longer post.. well fuck me i thought to myself ;D wrote to Ronald MacDonald and he said "Donny you are a naughty Boy".. so i told Ronald i would sell my soul to getbig if he let me stay. maybe the pic was over the top donīt know but i never took it to heart.


It must have been Princess L. She doesn't like when other people post pics of bottles in vag's. She wants to be the only one because it makes her feel cool.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 20, 2013, 05:10:44 PM

It must have been Princess L. She doesn't like when other people post pics of bottles in vag's. She wants to be the only one because it makes her feel cool.


Mod fight!
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Montague on February 20, 2013, 05:20:43 PM

Mod fight!


Nah, I love her highness.

I was just making light of the fact that PL often gets blamed for various thread "issues," when most people would be surprised at how little she does in that regard.
As I've mentioned, Princess does what a mod is actually supposed to do on a forum. That's why she moderates eleven different boards!
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 20, 2013, 07:01:32 PM

Nah, I love her highness.

I was just making light of the fact that PL often gets blamed for various thread "issues," when most people would be surprised at how little she does in that regard.
As I've mentioned, Princess does what a mod is actually supposed to do on a forum. That's why she moderates eleven different boards!


Coward!
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Montague on February 20, 2013, 07:03:56 PM

Coward!


Princess is the reason I have this job.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 20, 2013, 07:29:22 PM

Princess is the reason I have this job.


Yeah....
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Princess L on February 20, 2013, 07:48:13 PM

Princess is the reason I have this job.

I submitted a salary increase req to HR.  Should be reflected in your next paycheck.
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: Donny on February 21, 2013, 02:16:07 AM

I submitted a salary increase req to HR.  Should be reflected in your next paycheck.
Hey...i want a piece of the pie... ;D
Title: Re: Eating meat everyday....
Post by: WOOO on February 21, 2013, 03:20:00 AM

I submitted a salary increase req to HR.  Should be reflected in your next paycheck.

I approved a 500% raise for you.

What 500% of nothing again?