Dorian at the 94 Olympia...holy shit...

[Danny]

Holy fukin  shit....look at those calves....

[disco_stu]

Robbery and the Olympia go hand and hand.

Labrada beat Haney in 89 and 90.

Ray beat Yates in 94 and El Sonbaty beat him in 97.

im with you on the 89,90 and 97 calls...not so sure about the 94 call though, but i can see that it coulda went that way.

[crownshep]

Dorian looks dense as f**k there! Do you have that video?

I taped it onto video off Sky Sports years ago,and then transferred it onto dvd and was able to take those screencaps,but i have no idea how to put the video on the net,at the moment my dvd player on my computer is playing up so i can`t even show any more screencaps.Sorry.
If i do manage to sort these problems out,then i`ll definitely put the video on youtube.

[The_Hammer]

Holy Shit!  Somebody has to know where to find more pics of Dorian a week after the Olympia.  He looks fucking incredible in this shot.

[Cleanest Natural]

in my oppinnion dorian got beat in 94 fair and square by an in shape shawn ray...he was so ON. Shawn, you shod have been mr O ON AT LEAST ONE OTHER OCASION

[Bear]

you obviously have reading comprehension problems.

You are worthless. You have not made 1 intelligent contribution to the truce thread whatsoever. However, you have been owned so many times I'm surprised you keep coming back for more.

haha

you're gay

[rayisnumerouno]

Dorian was a unique and obviously great bodybuilder but when one can lend an objective eye to watching that video (with a knowledge of what the other competitors looked like that year), it is impossible IMO to say her should have won.  Both his arms and legs were "small" overall when compared to the size of his torso.  He couldn't even flex his left arm which looked like an amateurs.  He did have a very reasonable waist line, a great back, and great calves but the weakness of his pecs, arms, and legs in judging in an unbiased manner should have prevented him from winning.  BTW I'm not one that subscribes to the theory of "if a guy is the biggest/has the most mass and is in shape then he should win" (and that goes for Ronnie & Jay too)  bodybuilding is about more than that to me... and 1994 was not Dorian's year.

[Hulkster]

Dorian was a unique and obviously great bodybuilder but when one can lend an objective eye to watching that video (with a knowledge of what the other competitors looked like that year), it is impossible IMO to say her should have won.  Both his arms and legs were "small" overall when compared to the size of his torso.  He couldn't even flex his left arm which looked like an amateurs.  He did have a very reasonable waist line, a great back, and great calves but the weakness of his pecs, arms, and legs in judging in an unbiased manner should have prevented him from winning.  BTW I'm not one that subscribes to the theory of "if a guy is the biggest/has the most mass and is in shape then he should win" (and that goes for Ronnie & Jay too)  bodybuilding is about more than that to me... and 1994 was not Dorian's year.

exactly. Well said.

this is what everyone has been saying.

Yet, some, like ND refuse to believe it and insist that their version of reality is the correct one

[pumpster]

Yates is dense in that shot, looks good. A shame it's largely squandered by glaring flaws, including amateur-level arms. As a result, despite the pros he deserved to lose a few times to others who were more deserving, who now aren't looked at in the same way. Thank Weider politics for that, politics that some here keep pretending don't exist..

[pumpster]

Both his arms and legs were "small" overall when compared to the size of his torso.  He couldn't even flex his left arm which looked like an amateurs.  He did have a very reasonable waist line, a great back, and great calves but the weakness of his pecs, arms, and legs in judging in an unbiased manner should have prevented him from winning.

Pithy.

[knny187]

Momo pwned Dorian here

[Cold]

Uh that year I would have given it to Shawn. Superior physique.

[Grape Ape]

Momo pwned Dorian here

Where is this pic from?  It looks like it could be Yates' first NOC where Benaziza won.

As to the Dillet comparison, any advantages from the front were destroyed from the back.

[Hulkster]

Where is this pic from.  It looks like it could be Yates' first NOC where Benaziza won.

it was yates' first olympia win

[knny187]

it was yates' first olympia win

There's Vince with the ole eye patch

[Hulkster]

yup. its a shame. Had Vince shown up looking like he did at the ironman and Arnold Classic that year, it is likely he would have beaten Yates that year:



ironman vince vs. olympia 92 yates.

don't forget: Vince was no slouch in the back department at the time.

[knny187]

If I'm not mistaken....Shawn Ray had something to say about believing Vince about the eye incident

[NarcissisticDeity]

yup. its a shame. Had Vince shown up looking like he did at the ironman and Arnold Classic that year, it is likely he would have beaten Yates that year:


don't forget: Vince was no slouch in the back department at the time.

Oh jesus here we go again lol Vince wasn't going to beat Yates not by a long shot , Vince competed at 210lbs he wasn't big enough to match Yates for size & conditioning .

[pumpster]

Oh jesus here we go again lol Vince wasn't going to beat Yates not by a long shot , Vince competed at 210lbs he wasn't big enough to match Yates for size & conditioning .

What a coincidence that this sentiment is right out of Flex.

[Hulkster]

yup, dorian said that Vince Taylor was basically the reason that he "overdieted" and came in a little flat in 92, while in 93 he did not go for conditioning at the expense of size.

he came in bigger in 93, but not has hard at least in the lower back and midsection.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yup, dorian said that Vince Taylor was basically the reason that he "overdieted" and came in a little flat in 92, while in 93 he did not go for conditioning at the expense of size.

he came in bigger in 93, but not has hard at least in the lower back and midsection.

Wrong . he chose to come in lighter due to the smaller guys like Ray , Levrone and Labrada and Taylor ! and he was a LOT bigger in 93 and had the exact same conditioning as 92 , kid you really need to learn about bodybuilding because your knowlege is weak.

[Jr. Yates]

Wrong . he chose to come in lighter due to the smaller guys like Ray , Levrone and Labrada and Taylor ! and he was a LOT bigger in 93 and had the exact same conditioning as 92 ,

I think this is correct.

[Alex23]

yup, dorian said that Vince Taylor was basically the reason that he "overdieted" and came in a little flat in 92, while in 93 he did not go for conditioning at the expense of size.
he came in bigger in 93, but not has hard at least in the lower back and midsection.

Oh Brother...  Hulkster, the Dorian dellusion is embarrassing to look at... 

[Hulkster]

Wrong . he chose to come in lighter due to the smaller guys like Ray , Levrone and Labrada and Taylor ! and he was a LOT bigger in 93 and had the exact same conditioning as 92 , kid you really need to learn about bodybuilding because your knowlege is weak.

that is exactly what I said moron!

He came in lighter to go for conditioning rather than size because of mainly Taylor (and Ray) in 1992

its right out of flex mag.

oh, and in 1993 he had a supergut standing in the symmetry round compared to 1992.

you, my friend, are a retard.

[Hulkster]

92 vs. 93 conditioning.

notice: 92 has more definition in the abs. Arms and quads as smooth as ever...

ND, you are such a tool.

you are very easy to prove wrong.