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« Reply #1875 on: September 03, 2021, 08:05:28 PM »
Seems to be following the same plan as what happened here in New York. When you get up to 70% vaccinations they’ll lift the state of emergency and things will start opening back up.

Perhaps but society is beginning to form their own rules.

For example we were advised from another family member in a hotspot (they are vaxed) that unless we were vaxed then we couldn't come to the family Christmas.

Now, the irony of that is this was coming from someone in a hotspot who plans to travel out to a zone which is very safe, yet we are the danger.

The problem is it's a hole as deep as people can be redarded.

I'm waiting for the Novavax to become available which is 1 shot yet if i have only 1 shot and not 2 like others years earlier, the argument will be i'm not safe because i chose to take generation 2.0 covid vax. It will be the same for people who take 2 shots and not a 3rd or 4th or 5th, you aren't safe.


I said the final stages  of any revolution, history shows us this. Didnt say we are in the final stages. You mess with peoples kids, forcing vaccination taking them from parents, limiting freedoms.....then yes a revolution will happen.

Do I believe it will get to that in this country...no. They will push their draconian measures as far as possible, then pullback.

Covid is a distraction to the larger personal issue which is your future salary and work arrangement.

I posted some money supply stuff in another thread here and we have massively wage deflation knocking at the door.

I hate to break it to people but the reality is this:
Your salary includes transport and given you aren't coming into an office, this will be removed.
Your salary includes geographical consideration. If you are working remotely, wages drop to the cheapest geographical level.
Your salary includes full productivity. This has dropped off massively therefore the 4 day work week is coming.....

The above would all be reality right now if the govt didn't step in to pay for 2 days a week salary.

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« Reply #1876 on: September 03, 2021, 08:48:31 PM »
This is the phase my wife and I are in right now and it’s frustrating. Some examples. Work a few hours, sleep an hour and a half. Trained back tonight, took over an hour because of dragging ass and feeling gassed. We had a football game last night. Got to the field at 5:15, organized the team, 7pm start time, game ended at 9:50, got home got to bed by 11:15 didn’t wake up until 10am got up, ate and slept another two hours. Normally I’m up by 5:30am and work straight through until about 6-7pm. This Chinavirus is a production killer

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« Reply #1877 on: September 04, 2021, 08:43:15 AM »
Most people with COVID-19 in the US are legally prevented from knowing which variant infected them.


https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-patients-cant-know-which-variant-infected-them-delta-2021-8

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« Reply #1878 on: September 04, 2021, 09:52:35 AM »
Something strange has happened in the last couple weeks.

Last week my father went in for his 6 month checkup. No mention of the shot as to whether he got it or wanted it or needed it. Ziltch.

Another close older relative of mine has an MD and two specialists. None of them want to make a recommendation on which shot to take or even to take the shot.

They say "ask the pharmacist", like they are out of the decision. WTF is that? Obviously they've discovered there will be future liability and that is coming from the top. Then call the pharmacist and they say "oh yeah you need to take the shot" .... but instead of making a recommendation they just tell you what they have that day. Nothing is determined by health history, just availability AKA $$$.

Ever since Obamacare started -  the funding, govt and pharma come BEFORE the patient. People are getting terrible, confused at best and corrupt at worst "care" during this whole thing.

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« Reply #1879 on: September 04, 2021, 09:56:04 AM »
It's pretty obvious the enthusiastic Biden rollout of "boosters" is to try and make the point that those with natural immunity need to get shots as well covering up the fact that the vaccines are not viable long term answers. When it comes to those with natural immunity of course it is unproven as to what benefit that would provide, if any. They ignore the huge block of people with natural immunity, again there is no $$$ in it unless they push more shots.

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« Reply #1880 on: September 04, 2021, 10:01:11 AM »
Kill anyone who wears a mask.

Kill anyone who tells you to get vaccinated.

Kill anyone who tells you what to do.

All three are still in phase 4 with several compounds in phases 3a and 3b. pfizer should have been in phase 4 for another 11 months. Holy rush a half-ass compound to market, Batman. Not one of these things is true vaccines so no one, in theory, has been vaccinated.


Most people with COVID-19 in the US are legally prevented from knowing which variant infected them.


https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-patients-cant-know-which-variant-infected-them-delta-2021-8

variants are made up.  no one has a fucking clue how many generations have passed since it escaped from the lab.

 

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« Reply #1881 on: September 04, 2021, 02:25:54 PM »
Something strange has happened in the last couple weeks.

Last week my father went in for his 6 month checkup. No mention of the shot as to whether he got it or wanted it or needed it. Ziltch.

Another close older relative of mine has an MD and two specialists. None of them want to make a recommendation on which shot to take or even to take the shot.

They say "ask the pharmacist", like they are out of the decision. WTF is that? Obviously they've discovered there will be future liability and that is coming from the top. Then call the pharmacist and they say "oh yeah you need to take the shot" .... but instead of making a recommendation they just tell you what they have that day. Nothing is determined by health history, just availability AKA $$$.

Ever since Obamacare started -  the funding, govt and pharma come BEFORE the patient. People are getting terrible, confused at best and corrupt at worst "care" during this whole thing.

Definitely some changes taking place. “Ask the pharmacist.” Lol. Pharmacists are essentially pill counters, the personal trainers of the medical profession.

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« Reply #1882 on: September 04, 2021, 02:33:17 PM »

I hate to break it to people but the reality is this:
Your salary includes transport and given you aren't coming into an office, this will be removed.
Your salary includes geographical consideration. If you are working remotely, wages drop to the cheapest geographical level.
Your salary includes full productivity. This has dropped off massively therefore the 4 day work week is coming.....

The above would all be reality right now if the govt didn't step in to pay for 2 days a week salary.

This is a good take. Alot of companies are delaying bringing people back to the office and I doubt it’s because of this fucking bullshit Delta variant. It’s  because they want to see how much remote work they can get implement without productivity being hurt. Also seems like travel restrictions are being extended to for this purpose. The EU just imposed travel restrictions on the US right at a time when a lot of people are coming back to offices.

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« Reply #1883 on: September 04, 2021, 02:42:56 PM »
So here is the future according to the Israeli "Covid Czar"   ....  endless shots and tracking...vax that expires every 6 months and you can't travel or live your life without it. Keep in mind Israel as a country is both the highest vax rate and highest covid rate per capita, so quadruple down on what isn't working:


“Given that that the virus is here and will continue to be here, we also need to prepare for a fourth injection,” Salman Zarka told Kan public radio.

“This is our life from now on, in waves,” he said.

“It seems that if we learn the lessons from the fourth wave, we must consider the [possibility of subsequent] waves with the new variants, such as the new one from South America,” he said at the time.

“And thinking about this and the waning of the vaccines and the antibodies, it seems every few months — it could be once a year or five or six months — we’ll need another shot.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/virus-czar-calls-to-begin-readying-for-eventual-4th-vaccine-dose/

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« Reply #1884 on: September 04, 2021, 02:54:58 PM »
I’ve said  doctors today are barely  different from their mid evil counterparts. Bleed the patient. If that doesn’t work take more blood and keep doing so. When the patient dies you claim that they couldn’t tolerate the treatments.

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« Reply #1885 on: September 04, 2021, 03:35:10 PM »
This is a good take. Alot of companies are delaying bringing people back to the office and I doubt it’s because of this fucking bullshit Delta variant. It’s  because they want to see how much remote work they can get implement without productivity being hurt. Also seems like travel restrictions are being extended to for this purpose. The EU just imposed travel restrictions on the US right at a time when a lot of people are coming back to offices.

Once companies realise people can work from home they will start employing people in shit hole countries for a fraction of the cost.

Another side effect of people working from home is the housing market crash
Why would anyone pay premium prices for city living if they can move out to the sticks?
Not only that all the coffee shops and restaurants in cites will eventually fold

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« Reply #1886 on: September 04, 2021, 10:13:53 PM »
Once companies realise people can work from home they will start employing people in shit hole countries for a fraction of the cost.

Another side effect of people working from home is the housing market crash
Why would anyone pay premium prices for city living if they can move out to the sticks?
Not only that all the coffee shops and restaurants in cites will eventually fold

More likely is the workload ceases to exist. This is deflation, productivity vanishes therefore so does the workload.

The rule of thumb is the square root of your workforce perform 90% of the productivity. Maybe not in a manual hands on environment but in an office, yep. I have experience in that in a regional operation which i ran using 10%-15% of the previous workforce. They all thought it'd be dead in 6mths and i squeezed 4yrs out of it and everybody made more money than any years prior. It can be done when autists like me run it but i was always open with the team telling them to expect redundancy but if they stay i'll run it to milk it for them as much as possible. The guys worked maybe 1 day a week to, i did all the heavy lifting because it's just easier that way.

If you moved to regional like i did last year then you will be golden for decades to come. Covid is a multi generational change.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1887 on: September 04, 2021, 10:15:29 PM »
"Years ago, when I was in university, I was shadowing an orthopedic surgeon. On my first day, I watched him write about 10 or 15 prescriptions for a drug called Vioxx. I had never heard of it, so I asked him "What's Vioxx for? I've never heard of it." He said "It's the new generation of NSAID anti-inflammatory pain-killer medications. It's more effective and much SAFER than the previous generation (aspirin, etc.)."


One year later, it was publicized that Vioxx caused 88,000 Americans to have heart attacks, and nearly 40,000 of them DIED.
I personally witnessed THOUSANDS of people get prescribed this drug, which later went on to get removed from the market, but only YEARS after it had KILLED tens of thousands of people.


No doubt that some of those patients I witnessed get that prescription ended up dying from it.


IMPORTANTLY... The problem wasn't that Vioxx didn't WORK to reduce inflammation and pain. It did "work." It was AMAZINGLY EFFECTIVE at relieving pain and inflammation in the hours after taking it.


The problem was that in the long-term, it ALSO caused enormous harm to other aspects of health and killed a lot of people.
KEY POINT: Depending on HOW you measured the efficacy of Vioxx -- for what metrics and over what period of time -- the studies would either find that it's an "amazing wonder drug" or a "disaster drug that's killing people."


It's important to understand that the difference in these two conclusions about the drug -- wonder drug vs. deadly drug -- is purely in what outcomes are studied, and over what period of time.


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Now...


Just imagine if we judged the efficacy of Vioxx purely based on how well it decreases inflammation within the first days/weeks after taking it, and we had no concern for the need for long-term safety data and long-term outcomes on all measures of health/disease -- which eventually showed that it caused tens of thousands of people to DIE from heart attacks.


Imagine if we only judged Thalidomide based on how well it reduces morning sickness in pregnant women, and had no concern about the long-term safety data -- which eventually showed that it was responsible for thousands of babies to be born without arms or legs.


Imagine if we only judged opioids based on how well they relieve pain after taking it, and had no concern for the long-term safety data -- which eventually showed them to be responsible for over 500,000 deaths.


Just imagine if there were doctors around today that are so quick to brush off the lessons of medical history -- and the obvious NECESSITY of long-term safety data before doing mass medical interventions with novel technologies on the entire population -- that they didn't understand the basic principle that a medical intervention can be highly effective based on ONE MEASURE at one point in time, and yet simultaneously CAUSE far greater harm in the long run.


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Importantly, there are thousands of experts -- including the inventor of mRNA vac-seen technology -- that are warning of exactly that potential right now.


If you understand the lessons of medical history, you realize that it might be worth paying attention to what they have to say.

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« Reply #1888 on: September 05, 2021, 01:04:25 AM »
So here is the future according to the Israeli "Covid Czar"   ....  endless shots and tracking...vax that expires every 6 months and you can't travel or live your life without it. Keep in mind Israel as a country is both the highest vax rate and highest covid rate per capita, so quadruple down on what isn't working:


“Given that that the virus is here and will continue to be here, we also need to prepare for a fourth injection,” Salman Zarka told Kan public radio.

“This is our life from now on, in waves,” he said.

“It seems that if we learn the lessons from the fourth wave, we must consider the [possibility of subsequent] waves with the new variants, such as the new one from South America,” he said at the time.

“And thinking about this and the waning of the vaccines and the antibodies, it seems every few months — it could be once a year or five or six months — we’ll need another shot.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/virus-czar-calls-to-begin-readying-for-eventual-4th-vaccine-dose/

Sorry, I don't feel like updating. Maybe when we get to shot 10, I will  ::)

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« Reply #1889 on: September 05, 2021, 02:10:16 AM »
So here is the future according to the Israeli "Covid Czar"   ....  endless shots and tracking...vax that expires every 6 months and you can't travel or live your life without it. Keep in mind Israel as a country is both the highest vax rate and highest covid rate per capita, so quadruple down on what isn't working:

Yes, this is a 30yr type of change we are looking at.

Moving to a regional/rural area is the best thing you can do. Lower chance of lockdown than cities plus restrictions are nowhere near as bad majority of the time.

People in cities are narrow minded thinking moving to the suburbs isn't in the city lol. Last Christmas here the virus spread everywhere when city people went on holidays, what do you think's gunna happen in years to come? Out here here people don't GAF about vax or not they ask if you are from a major city.

City people gunna be restricted for decades to come. Country folk meanwhile are safu.


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« Reply #1890 on: September 05, 2021, 03:14:14 AM »
Yes, this is a 30yr type of change we are looking at.

Moving to a regional/rural area is the best thing you can do. Lower chance of lockdown than cities plus restrictions are nowhere near as bad majority of the time.

People in cities are narrow minded thinking moving to the suburbs isn't in the city lol. Last Christmas here the virus spread everywhere when city people went on holidays, what do you think's gunna happen in years to come? Out here here people don't GAF about vax or not they ask if you are from a major city.

City people gunna be restricted for decades to come. Country folk meanwhile are safu.

This is what im doing now,  looking for a piece of land in the countryside worse case scenario overseas.  Atleast in USA (republican states) they still have their freedoms.  I would easily uproute where I am and move if it ever got that bad. 

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« Reply #1891 on: September 05, 2021, 04:27:22 AM »
This is what im doing now,  looking for a piece of land in the countryside worse case scenario overseas.  Atleast in USA (republican states) they still have their freedoms.  I would easily uproute where I am and move if it ever got that bad.

Some advice is to look for mining and agriculture backed areas. These will be the stable industries for many years to come. Govt jobs are good aswell protected by unions. Be mindful the regional boom will continue for some time so it'll never be cheaper. Acreage is nice but consider blue ribbon suburbs near town with reasonable land size. Wealthy like to live near town aswell which is where we chose vs acreage.

We sold and went country as soon as the initial lockdown ended in June 2020.

The house we are building is 7,000sq ft in American terms i believe. Here that is getting into the larger size homes in our estate and we have it spec'd it out pretty hard. I planned for inter-generational living so we have our Master suite with private pool, king sized guest suite and a self contained 3 bedroom apartment all with king sized rooms. The idea being we have the master, our daughter when older and married with kids can have the guest suite and 3 teenagers can have the apartment.

In history, all of the wealthy families lived together because you get economy of scale and were more powerful as a group. The moment they started splitting up, the wealth was divided and they all went broke, castles in ruins. Big house or acreage which allows multiple dwellings.

Best of luck mate.

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« Reply #1892 on: September 05, 2021, 04:43:02 AM »
im waiting for melvin on what to do financially


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« Reply #1893 on: September 06, 2021, 07:19:43 PM »
Just as with the Israeli covid czar above the Aussie "health chief" says boosters forever is the new normal. This IS the plan.





"Australian health chief Dr. Kerry Chant says that COVID will be with us “forever” and people will have to “get used to” taking endless booster vaccines.

The New South Wales Chief Health Officer made the alarming comments during a recent press conference.

“We need to get used to being vaccinated with COVID vaccines for the future … I can’t see COVID is not going to be with us forever,” said Chant said during a press conference last week.

“As a public health doctor we always want to have diseases go, to be totally eliminated, but that is not on the horizon in the near future,” she continued. “Booster doses and repeat doses will be part of it.”

“I can assure you that the commonwealth government has purchased large quantities of vaccine into 2022 and this will be a regular cycle of vaccination and revaccination as we learn more about when immunity wanes.”

In a separate answer to a reporter, Chant again asserted that people “will be getting vaccinated regularly” against COVID."



https://summit.news/2021/09/06/dr-chant-covid-will-be-with-us-forever-people-will-have-to-get-used-to-endless-booster-vaccines/

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« Reply #1894 on: September 07, 2021, 08:42:45 AM »
Jail this corrupt CCP-friendly liar immediately.


"Now, thanks to materials (here and here) released through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by The Intercept against the National Institutes of Health (which were unredacted enough to toss Fauci under the bus), we now know that Fauci-funded EcoHealth Alliance, a New York-based nonprofit headed by Peter Daszak, was absolutely engaged in gain-of-function research to make chimeric SARS-based coronaviruses, which they confirmed could infect human cells."


"The materials confirm the grants supported the construction--in Wuhan--of novel chimeric SARS-related coronaviruses that combined a spike gene from one coronavirus with genetic information from another coronavirus, and confirmed the resulting viruses could infect human cells."


https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/massive-foia-release-proves-fauci-funded-wuhan-research-construct-sars-related

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« Reply #1895 on: September 07, 2021, 10:09:12 PM »
How soon before old Sleepy Joe declares airplane travel for vaxxed only in the US?

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« Reply #1896 on: September 07, 2021, 11:54:09 PM »
So they did fund gain of function research after all.


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« Reply #1897 on: September 08, 2021, 01:55:55 AM »
Had my first shot yesterday here on prison island.

I had held off hoping a safer new version might be available. Novavax seemed positive but not recognised as being vaxed here, so I figured I’m out of time.

Felt sick probably 15mins after for most of the day, otherwise I felt maybe 95%. Woke up at 1215am with chills and by 1245 I was shaking uncontrollably. My wife said the entire bed was shaking like in those older 1980s movies in cheap hotels. Raced to get Panadol, hand shaking so bad water going everywhere, got back to bed.

1am Panadol kicked in and chills gone. 130am I’m now on absolute fire running a high temperature, aches everywhere, I feel like a freight train has hit me. Sleep is on/off, I start getting a bad headache which lasted until mid afternoon.

It’s now 7pm and I’m mostly recovered. Feel worn out from flu, not lethargy. Hope I don’t go downhill again like last night.

Now, I’m not someone who gets sick a lot. I reckon I already had Covid and apparently AstraZeneca gives worse feeling if you have had Covid. This is fucking crazy to give this shot to people. No doubt a good portion of people would have headed to the hospital if they reacted as I did, and this is the vaccine, not even the virus!


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« Reply #1898 on: September 08, 2021, 07:06:05 AM »
Had my first shot yesterday here on prison island.

I had held off hoping a safer new version might be available. Novavax seemed positive but not recognised as being vaxed here, so I figured I’m out of time.

Felt sick probably 15mins after for most of the day, otherwise I felt maybe 95%. Woke up at 1215am with chills and by 1245 I was shaking uncontrollably. My wife said the entire bed was shaking like in those older 1980s movies in cheap hotels. Raced to get Panadol, hand shaking so bad water going everywhere, got back to bed.

1am Panadol kicked in and chills gone. 130am I’m now on absolute fire running a high temperature, aches everywhere, I feel like a freight train has hit me. Sleep is on/off, I start getting a bad headache which lasted until mid afternoon.

It’s now 7pm and I’m mostly recovered. Feel worn out from flu, not lethargy. Hope I don’t go downhill again like last night.

Now, I’m not someone who gets sick a lot. I reckon I already had Covid and apparently AstraZeneca gives worse feeling if you have had Covid. This is fucking crazy to give this shot to people. No doubt a good portion of people would have headed to the hospital if they reacted as I did, and this is the vaccine, not even the virus!


You are not an O blood type I take it? Everyone I know that has taken the shot that was A, B, AB has had a similar strong reaction. So far all of the O types that I know first hand did not have this sort of reaction.