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Title: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: che on January 18, 2013, 04:20:03 PM: Here next to one of the widest bodybuilders ever ''The Fridge''

(http://fitnessfreak24.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Phil-Heath-Jay-cutler-Posing.jpg)
(http://obama.net/wp-content/uploads/philheath_jaycutler.jpg)
(http://fitnessfreak24.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/jay-cutler-phil-heath.jpg)

I've never heard anyone say : Branch Warren is narrow

(http://i.imgur.com/BGaym.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jp_VmX9fNTE/T-HzcchFplI/AAAAAAAAE2U/667ywRQllsM/s400/phil.jp)

Next to Dexter , narrowest Mr Olympia ever ::)

(https://i1.ytimg.com/vi/4mw5YioyS0Y/mqdefault.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TiY9EB_qQHg/UA3DFIrBRtI/AAAAAAAAIyA/s166CFXmjXA/s640/Mr.+Olympia+2010+(107).jpg)

Kai Greene

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB74017wtmk.JPG)
(http://fitness.dwaynekilbourne.com/files/2012/10/Phil_Heath_Kai_Greene_Mr_Olympia.jpg)

Haters gonna hate

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4p23iOFBT1qeaj38o1_500.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hQVyV.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/fd6833c5854bfd53aaceac3c4a8600dc/tumblr_mg02szqNHb1qjz6zwo1_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/c54016a9527be4254d640c2bfc123318/tumblr_mgbn5iGqdb1qfio18o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: rocket on January 18, 2013, 04:41:33 PM: Ugh, Saturday morning and I'm on the internet.. :'(

You've got a point.. somewhat.

I was genuinely curious about what you were saying, so I took a look in photoshop and indeed, I discovered that the total width of Phil is in parity.

What you're seeing below is Phil's width compared to Cutlers (no zoom, in that picture he really is wider, though perspective may be the reason).

The second image is why you are wrong. It is his chest compared with Cutler's. As you can see, he IS more narrow, it's just in the torso (and you can see that I didn't even do Cutler justice, on the right side, I cut him a bit wrong).

Think about that for a second. In that photo he's wider than cutler yet his chest is significantly less wide. I did not in any way modify the image.

When I look at Phil, I don't see a balanced physique. I see giant, impressive arms, small shoulders compared them and a very narrow chest width.

Hope that lays to rest what you're saying which was valid but not quite the right focus.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/o3828.jpg)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: arce1988 on January 18, 2013, 04:52:13 PM: :D
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: che on January 18, 2013, 05:05:45 PM: Quote from: rocket on January 18, 2013, 04:41:33 PM
Ugh, Saturday morning and I'm on the internet.. :'(

You've got a point.. somewhat.

I was genuinely curious about what you were saying, so I took a look in photoshop and indeed, I discovered that the total width of Phil is in parity.

What you're seeing below is Phil's width compared to Cutlers (no zoom, in that picture he really is wider, though perspective may be the reason).

The second image is why you are wrong. It is his chest compared with Cutler's. As you can see, he IS more narrow, it's just in the torso (and you can see that I didn't even do Cutler justice, on the right side, I cut him a bit wrong).

Think about that for a second. In that photo he's wider than cutler yet his chest is significantly less wide. I did not in any way modify the image.

When I look at Phil, I don't see a balanced physique. I see giant, impressive arms, small shoulders compared them and a very narrow chest width.

Hope that lays to rest what you're saying which was valid but not quite the right focus.

I didn't say Phil was wider than Jay , what I'm trying to say is that the difference is minimal .
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 18, 2013, 05:16:43 PM: Nonsense.. phil has loads of round muscle definitely.. pics can cast an illusion i have seen this guy up close and live

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKOwCbWc7qeRwrvJfuYUBRKTYozoT_meCDJPM6tPtLY0BPxsUPEu0RhMvT)

mr olympia the biggest baddest physique on earth is directly in front of this woman...

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/BE8023D1-A56A-44AE-B9C5-50C409B0B63E-157-00000007D17C9F2F.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/6CB2644F-F8A4-4DEE-AABD-18B6A6D23399-157-00000007FDE539EB.jpg)
....
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: cephissus on January 18, 2013, 05:19:51 PM: haha meso destroying che's thread with minimal effort

the guy is a small, gay man with muscles.

of course the difference is "minimal". the difference between ronnie coleman and dan hill is "minimal" too, from a normal person's perspective. another reason why "pro-bodybuilding" is incredibly pathetic: the entire affair is about making a mountain out of a molehill.
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: che on January 18, 2013, 05:22:43 PM: Quote from: mesmorph78 on January 18, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
illusion

That's what bodybuilding is all about .

BTW great pics to prove your point ,ha ha.
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 18, 2013, 05:26:19 PM: those pics with the women i took myself... last yr
phil has superb round muscles.... they just hang off him but he is narrow.... for a pro and mr o...
I don't care what pics are posted black and white in the gym.... nicely angled or the magic shot out of a million shown whatever... Ive seen him with my own eyes... narrow... his arms and delts look ridiculous that I will say
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: rocket on January 18, 2013, 05:26:46 PM: Quote from: che on January 18, 2013, 05:05:45 PM
I didn't say Phil was wider than Jay , what I'm trying to say is that the difference is minimal .

I didn't misinterpret what you said - I didn't think you said that Phil was wider than Jay.

But you did ask the reader to compare widths (to debunk that Heath is narrow) and that is what I did. Then I had a think about how yes, the width is similar, or larger in that photo and why he still looks narrow - and figured it out.

IE, what you were trying to say is irrelevant to the question of if he is narrow.

I could go right through every single one of those photos you posted and post the comparison of chest size and just about every single angle, he's significantly smaller in surface area.. That is primarily why Heath is "narrow". He has a narrow chest. I'm still skeptical that he is truly as wide as Jay, but you understand the implication, right? If he is truly as wide as Jay, he has a very narrow chest. If Jay is actually wider and that photo doesn't show it, he has an extremely narrow chest compared to Jay.

Either way, Phil Heath is narrow. That is a fact.
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 18, 2013, 05:27:47 PM: Quote from: che on January 18, 2013, 05:22:43 PM
That's what bodybuilding is all about .

BTW great pics to prove your point ,ha ha.
I agree... phil casts a spectacular illusion....
he does have great muscle shape and insertions....
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: LATS on January 18, 2013, 06:57:32 PM: Seen Phil up close.. He is narrow as hell.. Makes his head look enormous lol.. Great shape.. Great insertions..but narrow bone structure.. I.e. rib cage and clavicles.. Look at his college basketball pics to see how truly narrow he was.. Made great improvements, after all , he is mro.. But it is what it is..

I have seen jay in person.. Wide as a glider...
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Nails on January 18, 2013, 07:02:41 PM: He will be at the LA Fitness expo tomorrow and Sunday at the convention center

Anyone in LA go to subway get a coupon and get in for $10

See Phil upfront and in person

U will get your $10 in shitty supplament samples
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Rudee on January 18, 2013, 08:37:53 PM: Shoulders like a Brook Trout!
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 19, 2013, 12:22:28 AM: I'm not buying into this conspiracy.

Verdict: Phil is still narrow for a Mr. O
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Radical Plato on January 19, 2013, 12:29:44 AM: (http://oi54.tinypic.com/ipp46x.jpg)

(http://anabolismo.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/alexey-lesukov-phil-heath-kl1.jpg)

(http://www.europeanbodybuilding.com/tl_files/galerien/PhilHeath_RobertBurneika/DSC_0122.JPG)

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/BOB_9707wtmk.JPG)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: anabolichalo on January 19, 2013, 12:39:20 AM: Quote from: E-Kul on January 19, 2013, 12:29:44 AM
(http://oi54.tinypic.com/ipp46x.jpg)

(http://anabolismo.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/alexey-lesukov-phil-heath-kl1.jpg)

(http://www.europeanbodybuilding.com/tl_files/galerien/PhilHeath_RobertBurneika/DSC_0122.JPG)
lights out
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Papper on January 19, 2013, 12:44:22 AM: If you don't see the narowness in Phil, you don't have an eye for physiques and their proportions.
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: OTHstrong on January 19, 2013, 12:46:02 AM: Phil Heath is not narrow, you guys think that cause you are comparing him to Ronnie and Jay, the 2 widest bodybuilders. Phil is wider then Dex and maybe even Branch, no on calls them narrow.

He gives the illusion of being narrow from certain angles cause his shouders wrap into his chest and his chest is long verdically making his clavicles look narrow, that's it.

Compared to Markus and other 280 lb behomoths who wouldn't look narrow when your competition weight is 240 lb
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: anabolichalo on January 19, 2013, 12:47:48 AM: getbig made me aware of the concept of narrowness and i found out i'm narrow

i was happier before realizing this
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Tito24 on January 19, 2013, 12:48:02 AM: you know that jay cutler is not a very wide bodybuilder either, big ron always was superior to little bay butler.
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 19, 2013, 12:52:45 AM: Quote from: Onetimehard on January 19, 2013, 12:46:02 AM
Phil Heath is not narrow, you guys think that cause you are comparing him to Ronnie and Jay, the 2 widest bodybuilders. Phil is wider then Dex and maybe even Branch, no on calls them narrow.

He gives the illusion of being narrow from certain angles cause his shouders wrap into his chest and his chest is long verdically making his clavicles look narrow, that's it.

Compared to Markus and other 280 lb behomoths who wouldn't look narrow when your competition weight is 240 lb
They are ~5" shorter though bro
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: anabolichalo on January 19, 2013, 12:54:47 AM: Quote from: Tito24 on January 19, 2013, 12:48:02 AM
you know that jay cutler is not a very wide bodybuilder either, big ron always was superior to little bay butler.
ronnie is narrower than jay

wolf is wide
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: closeline on January 19, 2013, 12:58:12 AM: All blind Here?

Ronnie was narrow too.
So were levrone, Wheeler, ray,

Wide is like Dennis Wolf or ruhl

Average is like nasser, Yates,

Phil is Not just narrow, he is tiny

Skeleton of a small Woman with 30iu gh 500iu Insulin Daily muscle
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Radical Plato on January 19, 2013, 01:11:37 AM: (http://bodybuilding-blog.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/SNAG-0057_03.jpg)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Radical Plato on January 19, 2013, 01:13:20 AM: (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7pwsaAa-Ong/T-ikOpF9OGI/AAAAAAAAFvw/66UXT7g0G5U/s1600/Joel+Stubbs+(3).jpg)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: tommywishbone on January 19, 2013, 01:14:21 AM: :)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: che on January 19, 2013, 07:41:35 AM: Quote from: E-Kul on January 19, 2013, 12:29:44 AM
(http://oi54.tinypic.com/ipp46x.jpg)

(http://anabolismo.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/alexey-lesukov-phil-heath-kl1.jpg)

(http://www.europeanbodybuilding.com/tl_files/galerien/PhilHeath_RobertBurneika/DSC_0122.JPG)

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/BOB_9707wtmk.JPG)
Thank you for proving my point,E-Kul .

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ6_KSCVBOZ6Qu-rYm5F-DX3ohPZ-5i0lbwWeaKm1x8jQs6g70TKkUPSM_a3A)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=214359.0;attach=250791;image)
(http://bodybuilding.nolimit.cz/image/11456152)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SlFz_gKpmM8/TMma8gx93DI/AAAAAAAAADM/7Dt11XQcboM/s320/Ronnie_Coleman_and_Wife_in_2009.jpg)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 19, 2013, 10:19:39 AM: what does an over the hill retired coleman have to do with .. phil heath being narrow??? ??? ??? ??? ???

This is Mr olympia now

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/BE8023D1-A56A-44AE-B9C5-50C409B0B63E-157-00000007D17C9F2F.jpg)

ill tell you now if heath showed up at that expo... in a tshirt arms covered no one would dream he was mr o the worlds most impressive and best physique.... it was cold and phil was the one of the only pro guys in a tank vest
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/BE8023D1-A56A-44AE-B9C5-50C409B0B63E-157-00000007D17C9F2F.jpg)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Parker on January 19, 2013, 10:33:44 AM: Quote from: mesmorph78 on January 19, 2013, 10:19:39 AM
what does an over the hill retired coleman have to do with .. phil heath being narrow??? ??? ??? ??? ???

This is Mr olympia now

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/BE8023D1-A56A-44AE-B9C5-50C409B0B63E-157-00000007D17C9F2F.jpg)

ill tell you now if heath showed up at that expo... in a tshirt arms covered no one would dream he was mr o the worlds most impressive and best physique.... it was cold and phil was the one of the only pro guys in a tank vest
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/BE8023D1-A56A-44AE-B9C5-50C409B0B63E-157-00000007D17C9F2F.jpg)
i only see a what appears to be a male model standing up, talking to a female, and Phil's arm sticking out, as he is in the background and is sitting on a stool.
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 19, 2013, 10:39:24 AM: the male model is a card board cut out...
pil is sittng on a stool is rms akimbo and a normal woman is standing in front of him and we cant see him....
mr olympia..
that would not happen with coleman jay yates kai...
so when people post these wonderful angled gym shots saying phil isnt narrow... i say thats silly talk... i have seen this guy up close... round muscles yes full yes.... good genetics hell yes..... good width for a pro ....or mr O hell no .... 1000 times
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: che on January 19, 2013, 11:01:21 AM: Quote from: mesmorph78 on January 19, 2013, 10:39:24 AM
... i have seen this guy up close..

You act like you're the only one that seen Phil up close ::)

Did you say narrow ?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SwewLeX6HiI/AAAAAAAACkY/skURKEfpOR0/s1600/Ronnie+coleman+at+2002+mr+olympia.JPG)
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9132/bigron0.jpg)
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/786x0/1/c/1cfa5_ORIG-224497_10150264570092671_502187670_8242167_455167_n.jpg)
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2009/09-086-training/01.jpg)
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAF0ZsFnU5ExBD-Au3lgkbKWfQN-9dljgk9KCaDgXJBTnA-lrbrEC3efT6jw)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 19, 2013, 11:10:03 AM: Quote from: che on January 19, 2013, 11:01:21 AM
You act like you're the only one that seen Phil up close ::)

Did you say narrow ?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SwewLeX6HiI/AAAAAAAACkY/skURKEfpOR0/s1600/Ronnie+coleman+at+2002+mr+olympia.JPG)
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9132/bigron0.jpg)
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/786x0/1/c/1cfa5_ORIG-224497_10150264570092671_502187670_8242167_455167_n.jpg)
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2009/09-086-training/01.jpg)
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAF0ZsFnU5ExBD-Au3lgkbKWfQN-9dljgk9KCaDgXJBTnA-lrbrEC3efT6jw)
have you seen phil....
coleman has the worst posture ever..... he atnds with his shoulders pinched... this is a known fact..... everyone knows coleman in reality is wide.....
but i fail to see how this has anything to do with a thread discussing phils width or lack .....
i have more pics i can post from that event but i wont belabour a point....
what i will say is... if phil disnt have those arms... 90% of people on his bandwagon would hop off....
because when you look past the arms.... well....
anyway... Ill leave you to it
meso
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: closeline on January 19, 2013, 11:11:12 AM: Quote from: che on January 19, 2013, 11:01:21 AM
You act like you're the only one that seen Phil up close ::)

Did you say narrow ?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SwewLeX6HiI/AAAAAAAACkY/skURKEfpOR0/s1600/Ronnie+coleman+at+2002+mr+olympia.JPG)
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9132/bigron0.jpg)
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/786x0/1/c/1cfa5_ORIG-224497_10150264570092671_502187670_8242167_455167_n.jpg)
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2009/09-086-training/01.jpg)
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAF0ZsFnU5ExBD-Au3lgkbKWfQN-9dljgk9KCaDgXJBTnA-lrbrEC3efT6jw)

again ronnie had declining and not very long cavlicles

but he still one of the GOATs while heath is like 2012 version of aaron baker
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Parker on January 19, 2013, 11:12:51 AM: Quote from: mesmorph78 on January 19, 2013, 11:10:03 AM
have you seen phil....
coleman has the worst posture ever..... he atnds with his shoulders pinched... this is a known fact..... everyone knows coleman in reality is wide.....
but i fail to see how this has anything to do with a thread discussing phils width or lack .....
i have more pics i can post from that event but i wont belabour a point....
what i will say is... if phil disnt have those arms... 90% of people on his bandwagon would hop off....
because when you look past the arms.... well....
anyway... Ill leave you to it
meso

its funny, I've seen some guys develop that "pinched shoulder posture..
And they walk with a rocking motion, and their belly pushed out.
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: OTHstrong on January 19, 2013, 05:24:30 PM: Quote from: mesmorph78 on January 19, 2013, 10:19:39 AM
what does an over the hill retired coleman have to do with .. phil heath being narrow??? ??? ??? ??? ???

This is Mr olympia now

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/BE8023D1-A56A-44AE-B9C5-50C409B0B63E-157-00000007D17C9F2F.jpg)

ill tell you now if heath showed up at that expo... in a tshirt arms covered no one would dream he was mr o the worlds most impressive and best physique.... it was cold and phil was the one of the only pro guys in a tank vest
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/BE8023D1-A56A-44AE-B9C5-50C409B0B63E-157-00000007D17C9F2F.jpg)
BRO ARE YOU HIGH OR SOMETHING? Can you not see that the girl is waaaaaaaaaaaaay closer to the camera, Kovaks can be sitting on that stool and we wouldn`t see him. woooooooooooooooooosh
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Nails on January 19, 2013, 06:10:49 PM: I just saw Phil Heath about 7 hours ago and shook his hand at the LA fitness expo, I saw jay cutler last year.... Cutler last year was out of the Olympia .... Cutler looked more impressive to me

Jay Cutler was impressive in person, he was legit bodybuilder badass

Phil didn't look very impressive in his basketball shorts and t-shirt, Phil is known to cruise during the offseason maybe during Olympia training he looks more massive ???

Here is a pic off instagram I found from today's LA Fitness Expo, no that's not me, maybe tito24 maybe

(http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/7d13dfaa629911e2bc0822000a1f9737_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Nails on January 19, 2013, 06:14:31 PM: a few more i found of people posted on instagram

(http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/cdf6755462a311e2b07922000a1fbd9b_7.jpg)

(http://distilleryimage6.s3.amazonaws.com/258cd742629d11e2877022000a9f1278_7.jpg)

(http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/bc63eb38627f11e2b7ab22000a1f90e7_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Parker on January 19, 2013, 06:16:24 PM: Quote from: Nails on January 19, 2013, 06:10:49 PM
I just saw Phil Heath about 7 hours ago and shook his hand at the LA fitness expo, I saw jay cutler last year.... Cutler last year was out if Olympia .... Cutler looked more impressive to me

Jay Cutler was impressive in person, he was legit bodybuilder badass

Phil didn't look very impressive in his basketball shorts and t-shirt, Phil is known to cruise during the offseason maybe during Olympia training he looks more massive ???

Here is a pic off instagram I found from today's LA Fitness Expo, no that's not me, maybe tito24 maybe

(http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/7d13dfaa629911e2bc0822000a1f9737_7.jpg)
Yeah, that's "cruising Phil" not "Olympia Phil".
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Nails on January 19, 2013, 06:20:25 PM: nice guy , and friendly phil is ... good dude, would buy a T-shirt from him,

https://zk964.infusionsoft.com/app/storeFront/showProductDetail?productId=89 (https://zk964.infusionsoft.com/app/storeFront/showProductDetail?productId=89)

(https://d1yoaun8syyxxt.cloudfront.net/zk964-vnzmokfzyvdzlioeymrjxgnhcmuhesej-v2)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: flinstones1 on January 19, 2013, 06:24:26 PM: che have you ever seen phil in person?? And its well known branch is one of the most narrow guys in bodybuilding nothing new..
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Tito24 on January 19, 2013, 06:59:16 PM: jay is not wide either
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Parker on January 19, 2013, 07:04:25 PM: What is unique about Phil Heath is that his forearms are bigger than most people's upper arms, and bigger than many bber's upper arms (even when he is "cruising").
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Tito24 on January 19, 2013, 07:09:13 PM: yes i give him that, but other than his forearms hes just another bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 19, 2013, 08:18:37 PM: Quote from: Onetimehard on January 19, 2013, 05:24:30 PM
BRO ARE YOU HIGH OR SOMETHING? Can you not see that the girl is waaaaaaaaaaaaay closer to the camera, Kovaks can be sitting on that stool and we wouldn`t see him. woooooooooooooooooosh
no phil was sitting behind the desk the girl was directly in front not far in front ... and no a wider bodybuilder wouldnt be completlety shadowed like that....
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 19, 2013, 08:21:06 PM: Ronnie is a freak. enough said. thats why he won 8 of them.
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: flinstones1 on January 19, 2013, 11:10:57 PM: Quote from: mesmorph78 on January 19, 2013, 10:19:39 AM
what does an over the hill retired coleman have to do with .. phil heath being narrow??? ??? ??? ??? ???

This is Mr olympia now

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/BE8023D1-A56A-44AE-B9C5-50C409B0B63E-157-00000007D17C9F2F.jpg)

ill tell you now if heath showed up at that expo... in a tshirt arms covered no one would dream he was mr o the worlds most impressive and best physique.... it was cold and phil was the one of the only pro guys in a tank vest
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/BE8023D1-A56A-44AE-B9C5-50C409B0B63E-157-00000007D17C9F2F.jpg)

haha this pic says it all! narrow as fuck....che's ok but he's off his rocker on this one. dude is as narrow as they come
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: TRIX on January 20, 2013, 02:05:14 AM: he is not crusing, he is plain narrow, and even more narrow dieted down
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Parker on January 20, 2013, 02:09:10 AM: Quote from: mesmorph78 on January 19, 2013, 08:18:37 PM
no phil was sitting behind the desk the girl was directly in front not far in front ... and no a wider bodybuilder wouldnt be completlety shadowed like that....
The black male model is a cardboard cut out, correct?
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: cephissus on January 20, 2013, 02:14:53 AM: this just in, bodybuilders are usually small people to start out with
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: flinstones1 on January 20, 2013, 02:23:12 AM: Quote from: cephissus on January 20, 2013, 02:14:53 AM
this just in, bodybuilders are usually small people to start out with

lol good point
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: OTHstrong on January 20, 2013, 02:25:02 AM: Quote from: cephissus on January 20, 2013, 02:14:53 AM
this just in, bodybuilders are usually small people to start out with
TBH it is to someones advantage on stage to have a small bone structure. Smaller bone structures make winning physiques.
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 20, 2013, 10:32:04 AM: NARROW as it gets but still a worthy Olympia
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Nails on January 21, 2013, 10:40:50 AM: (http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws.com/f8666380639811e2af9822000a1f9331_7.jpg)

(http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/5c1498bc635711e28e5722000a9f195f_7.jpg)

(http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/5d31d4d6636511e2974122000a9e2969_7.jpg)

(http://distilleryimage0.s3.amazonaws.com/b074b2b662b211e2996722000a9f18fe_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: Tito24 on January 21, 2013, 10:41:57 AM: big fat nose?
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 21, 2013, 07:12:02 PM: (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/339dfdd8637011e2a1bd22000a9f1361_7_zpscee8dbb0.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/f8666380639811e2af9822000a1f9331_7_zps9b0739d5.jpg)
(good arms and forearms)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/fw0l79_zps62087e8f.jpg)
:-\
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 22, 2013, 01:15:04 PM: just to add

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=455456.0;attach=501365;image)
Title: Re: Debunking the myth of Phil Heath's ''narrowness''
Post by: slate on January 22, 2013, 02:08:10 PM: compared with some of the fbbers with great structure even kai looks narrow.

(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l542/criscolumbus/758681159_424280770962562_958425962_n_123_1048lo_zps70eb9a6b.jpg)

AFAIK you cant really change significantly the span of your clavicles even with GH so guys that were narrow when skinny can only become wider with delt growth but there are limits for that.