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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Topic started by: KiyoshiMoody on July 23, 2008, 07:45:51 PM
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Let me start off by introducing myself.
I was originally born in Japan and came to the United States at the young age of two. I grew up in San Diego, California and thats where I currently reside. I first started weight training back in college for football and track where I qualified for the US Olympic trials in the 100m and they went on to play Professional Arena Footbal and a brief stint in the NFL. I became serious about weight training and bodybuilding back in 1998. Where I competed in my first show ABA Hercules Classic where I won the Novice overall title and the Open Overall Title and from there caught the bug and went on to compete in 20 more shows over the next 2 years. Then took a very long layoff from the sport until this past year. Where I competed in the San Diego Classic and won the Light HeavyWeight title and went on to win the Overall as well. Having never competed in the NPC, this was a new avenue I was coming down, knowing that the majority of competitors I was up against have used or are using gear. So with guidance from an NPC judge he convinced me to compete in my first national level show " Team Universe" where I won the light HeavyWeight Class. I usually diet up for a show meaning in the offseason I drop weight. My next competiton will be the 2008 Team Universe in NYC in which I am getting ready for in the next month. You can catch my training logs in either kiyoshimoody.blogspot.co m or kiyoshimoody.com.
I will be open to answer any questions you throw at me!!!
Kiyoshi Moody
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I read the article about you in M&F a few months back. Awesome physique man, crazy arms. Good luck with the competitions.
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great physique Kiyoshi, welcome to getbig..
q.how tall are you?
q.what supps do you take pre-contest? not interested in knowing specific brands.
q. If you were to take up a ifbb pro card, would you reconsider your natural status?
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Care to post some pics of yourself here Kiyoshi?
Welcome to the board, I see you've only been registered a couple of weeks, hope you stick around. :)
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are you saying you gain muscle and lose fat when getting ready for a competition/show?
if the answer is yes then what do you do after a show?
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are you saying you gain muscle and lose fat when getting ready for a competition/show?
if the answer is yes then what do you do after a show?
I'm also interested in hearing how a natural competitor gains muscle/loses fat going into a show and also why get smaller after the show?
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I have seen Kiyoshi compete and he looks great. When he is on stage, he had an incredible physique.
He won the 2007 NPC Junior California (Lonnie Teper show here in Pasadena), then went to the Team Universe 3 weeks later and won his class, losing out to Chris Faildo in the overall.
I just saw Kiyoshi at the 2008 NPC Junior Cal, as a spectator, and I hear he will be at the NPC USAs this weekend for the contest.
Here are some pics I took...
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I read the article about you in M&F a few months back. Awesome physique man, crazy arms. Good luck with the competitions.
Thank you very much anytime I can help or I ask answer any questions for you feel free to ask
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great physique Kiyoshi, welcome to getbig..
q.how tall are you?
q.what supps do you take pre-contest? not interested in knowing specific brands.
q. If you were to take up a ifbb pro card, would you reconsider your natural status?
Thank you very much for the compliment Here are some of my stats:
1. I'm 5'10"
2. Precontest supps - whey protein, casein protein, thermogenic, creatine, glutamine, mulitvitamin, testosterone booster(otc), If you need the know the brand just let me know, I'm open to any question.
3. I have been debating and thinking about this question alot and asking myself would. Taking a IFBB Pro card will help my personal training business tremenduosly but at the same time I love my little 5 year old girl that means the world to me and would do anything for, At the same time I have my age to consider, So as of right now I can say NO I would stay natural. Can I compete on a IFBB Pro stage, Yes, Can I place naturally NO, Will things change, yes they can. Hope that helps
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Care to post some pics of yourself here Kiyoshi?
Welcome to the board, I see you've only been registered a couple of weeks, hope you stick around. :)
Thanks I will be around!! Not going anywhere!!! I like to help out as many people as I can whether postiv or negative, I know this is a postive board but we all have haters everywhere and they get love too!!!!!!
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are you saying you gain muscle and lose fat when getting ready for a competition/show?
if the answer is yes then what do you do after a show?
Correct, I put on weight and muscle and drop bodyfat leading into a show so I grow into the show.
My metabolism is so fast that I can literally eat junk food 3 times per day and alot of it and lose weight. I have been blessed with great genetics and I thank my parents for that. So coming into a show I up my meals from anywhere from 8 to 14 meals per day, thats including shakes.
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I'm also interested in hearing how a natural competitor gains muscle/loses fat going into a show and also why get smaller after the show?
Let me ask you this a key ingridient to gain muscle is what? Protein right, Now at my bodyweight of 200lbs then to add muscle I multiply by 1.5 to 2 grams per pound correct now, I drop my carbs from I say 500 per day to 200 to 100 grams per day splitting my meals up between 10 to 14 meals per day so my metabolism will stay consistently high. My fat drops along with carbs having very minimal amounts of fat only fats that I will get for energy are from omega 3 fats, fish oils. So that will with the added protein my muscles increase while my bodyfat drops. I have 3 competitors that I train that have tried it this was after giving up on the traditional method gaingin weight and losing it.
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Thank you very much for the compliment Here are some of my stats:
1. I'm 5'10"
2. Precontest supps - whey protein, casein protein, thermogenic, creatine, glutamine, mulitvitamin, testosterone booster(otc), If you need the know the brand just let me know, I'm open to any question.
3. I have been debating and thinking about this question alot and asking myself would. Taking a IFBB Pro card will help my personal training business tremenduosly but at the same time I love my little 5 year old girl that means the world to me and would do anything for, At the same time I have my age to consider, So as of right now I can say NO I would stay natural. Can I compete on a IFBB Pro stage, Yes, Can I place naturally NO, Will things change, yes they can. Hope that helps
#3 was a very sincere and truthful answer. Props on that
How much cardio do you do during the offseason?
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#3 was a very sincere and truthful answer. Props on that
How much cardio do you do during the offseason?
I dont do any cardio in the offseason, My cardio as you can say is playing in a very competitive flag football league on the weekends down here in san diego sometimes in tourny's in the US.Actually I just started doing cardio for the Team Universe in Sept. 20 Min in the AM then 20 at night Iam trying to hold on to as much size as I can and keep bringing up those lagging bodyparts
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I dont do any cardio in the offseason, My cardio as you can say is playing in a very competitive flag football league on the weekends down here in san diego sometimes in tourny's in the US.Actually I just started doing cardio for the Team Universe in Sept. 20 Min in the AM then 20 at night Iam trying to hold on to as much size as I can and keep bringing up those lagging bodyparts
Which bodyparts do you think you need to improve on?
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Which bodyparts do you think you need to improve on?
Shyt my back and chest. I have trained with and neen trained with some of th best. My back is one of those bodyparts that is just taking its own sweet ass time to grow. I need width in my back and thickness
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What brands do you use for the supps you just listed? You look awesome btw! Hope you stick around!
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What brands do you use for the supps you just listed? You look awesome btw! Hope you stick around!
Precontest supps - whey protein, casein protein, thermogenic, creatine, glutamine, mulitvitamin, testosterone booster(otc)
well you asked for it, pen and paper ready. jk. OK for protein I use Isolyze by speciesnutrition, casein protein syntha 6 by bsn, thermogenic hot rox extreme, creatine size on gaspari, glutamine a no name brand, multivitamin from costco or sams club, testosterone booster testosolyze by speciesnutrition, waxy maize by species it's called carbolyze and nano vapor by muscletech I switch back and forth from no explode to nano.
Thank you for the compliment!!!!
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Thanks for the speedy reply! Nano Vapor gets me pretty amped for the gym too. The No-Xplode rips up my stomach however. What's your ethnicity, japanese and? I noticed you don't supplement with BCAA's. Is there a reason for that?
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Congradulations we were in the Cal in 2005!!!!
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Thanks for the speedy reply! Nano Vapor gets me pretty amped for the gym too. The No-Xplode rips up my stomach however. What's your ethnicity, japanese and? I noticed you don't supplement with BCAA's. Is there a reason for that?
I am careful when I take nano that shyt gets me a little to amped i get dizzy if I take to much. I am half japanese, 1/4 african american, 1/4 native american (cherokee) pretty good make up.
I use to take BCAA back in the day but this is when I was eating 4 to 6 times per day. Now that I increased my meals and I get alot of nutritients that i need from food plus i supplement with glutamine I really dont need them
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Congradulations we were in the Cal in 2005!!!!
? in the CAl, u talking about the ABA?
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looking sick K: So nice to have guys like you here.
your legs are amazing!!!! Give me a quick overview of your training schedule. nothing specific. just how many sets / reps for each body part.
thanks man
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Congratulations on your success and hope more comes your way. I also am very active with flag football, co-ed softball, and soon to be a volleyball league. I, like yourself, also have a passion for training. Do you find that playing in a competitive flag football league hinders some of your muscular development?
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Welcome buddy. I remember reading a profile on you in a past FLEX mag I beleive. Where do you lift in SD? World's in PB?
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sooooo what are you trying to say van? you bastard hater ;D
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sooooo what are you trying to say van? you bastard hater ;D
What do you mean? Dude looks great! :D
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Kiyoshi,
Great build, looks like you've trained awfully hard. I'm not saying I don't believe you but I want to find someone who will prove they are a natural.
Lets do this the right way.
I have an independent lab that can test your blood for anabolic/banned substances and i'll pay for it. I can set it up for any zip code in the U.S so that you can pop in to any clinic and be out in minutes.
Would you be up to the test to prove you are natural and at anytime a test is requested?
I'd be curious to know if just one person who claims to be natural will submit to blood testing...just one.
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Moody at last years Team Universe
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Thank you very much for the compliment Here are some of my stats:
1. I'm 5'10"
2. Precontest supps - whey protein, casein protein, thermogenic, creatine, glutamine, mulitvitamin, testosterone booster(otc), If you need the know the brand just let me know, I'm open to any question.
3. I have been debating and thinking about this question alot and asking myself would. Taking a IFBB Pro card will help my personal training business tremenduosly but at the same time I love my little 5 year old girl that means the world to me and would do anything for, At the same time I have my age to consider, So as of right now I can say NO I would stay natural. Can I compete on a IFBB Pro stage, Yes, Can I place naturally NO, Will things change, yes they can. Hope that helps
Now, that the IFBB has this 202-and-under class, are you looking to compete there, should you get your IFBB pro card. That's only 7 lbs (I'm speaking as if putting on 7 lbs of muscle is easy) from your current contest weight.
If you don't go to the IFBB, will you/can you compete in the WNBF as a pro?
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Damn, Kiyoshi. Black and Native American??? That's a VERY interesting mix! I didn't think you were 100% Japanese, but I couldn't guess what other ethnicity if my life depended on it.
In any event, you look great, man. You always bring a crazy package to the table. And it's always nice seeing some Asian bodybuilders out there too. Ken Suemitsu looked amazing in his day. Hidetada Yamagishi is looking great too. Can't wait until he's competing in North America again. Hope your training continues to go well.
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Kiyoshi,
Great build, looks like you've trained awfully hard. I'm not saying I don't believe you but I want to find someone who will prove they are a natural.
Lets do this the right way.
I have an independent lab that can test your blood for anabolic/banned substances and i'll pay for it. I can set it up for any zip code in the U.S so that you can pop in to any clinic and be out in minutes.
Would you be up to the test to prove you are natural and at anytime a test is requested?
I'd be curious to know if just one person who claims to be natural will submit to blood testing...just one.
Hey Bro NO PROBLEM ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, NO NOTICE. I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY. U ARE ACTUALLY MY THIRD TAKER. AS LONG AS THEY ARE A LEGITIMATE DRUG TESTING LAB CENTER
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Now, that the IFBB has this 202-and-under class, are you looking to compete there, should you get your IFBB pro card. That's only 7 lbs (I'm speaking as if putting on 7 lbs of muscle is easy) from your current contest weight.
If you don't go to the IFBB, will you/can you compete in the WNBF as a pro?
THERE IS NO WAY I CAN COMPETE IN THE IFBB UNDER 202 CLASS, I KNOW MY LIMITS. I'M TOO DAMN TALL.
WILL I EVER COMPETE IN THE WNBF? IF THEY EVER CHANGE THERE RULES YES. AS OF RIGHT NOW, NO.
I still compete in the ABA/INBA/PNBA and also NPC
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Damn, Kiyoshi. Black and Native American??? That's a VERY interesting mix! I didn't think you were 100% Japanese, but I couldn't guess what other ethnicity if my life depended on it.
In any event, you look great, man. You always bring a crazy package to the table. And it's always nice seeing some Asian bodybuilders out there too. Ken Suemitsu looked amazing in his day. Hidetada Yamagishi is looking great too. Can't wait until he's competing in North America again. Hope your training continues to go well.
Thank you very much for the compliment!!1 It's very much appreciated!!!
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THERE IS NO WAY I CAN COMPETE IN THE IFBB UNDER 202 CLASS, I KNOW MY LIMITS. I'M TOO DAMN TALL.
WILL I EVER COMPETE IN THE WNBF? IF THEY EVER CHANGE THERE RULES YES. AS OF RIGHT NOW, NO.
I still compete in the ABA/INBA/PNBA and also NPC
By changing their rules you are referring to? (not a slam...just know that they have differing rules when compared to the other pro natural orgs out there.) I am a WNBF pro....so I have to accept their rules or move to another organization.
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By changing their rules you are referring to? (not a slam...just know that they have differing rules when compared to the other pro natural orgs out there.) I am a WNBF pro....so I have to accept their rules or move to another organization.
I'm Not against the WNBF, it's just that I don't believe that you can compete in no other organization or be in any other magazine that they do not publish. In my opinion it would only help them promote there organization more and give them more publicity. ie Dave Goodin
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I'm Not against the WNBF, it's just that I don't believe that you can compete in no other organization or be in any other magazine that they do not publish. In my opinion it would only help them promote there organization more and give them more publicity. ie Dave Goodin
I could swear that the NPC has a similar rule. We know the IFBB does.
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I could swear that the NPC has a similar rule. We know the IFBB does.
As far as the NPC, They have there act together as far promoting. We all know that. Name one magazine you cannot appear in?
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As far as the NPC, They have there act together as far promoting. We all know that. Name one magazine you cannot appear in?
That I do not know as I havent done an NPC show since my first one back in '87. I dont even bother going to the ones that say "natural" anymore because of repeated obvious bullshitters (even knowing first hand some of these bullshitters).
If the NPC doesnt have the "non-compete" clause...thats great. Comparing apples to apples....the IFBB has similar rules with the competing in other organizations as the WNBF does. Or am I wrong?
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That I do not know as I havent done an NPC show since my first one back in '87. I dont even bother going to the ones that say "natural" anymore because of repeated obvious bullshitters (even knowing first hand some of these bullshitters).
If the NPC doesnt have the "non-compete" clause...thats great. Comparing apples to apples....the IFBB has similar rules with the competing in other organizations as the WNBF does. Or am I wrong?
I know what you are saying when a show says natural and you show up and the majority of the guys are not. I understand. Before I competed in the NPC I competed in the ABA/INBA/PNBA in this organization I never picked up my pro card. I did win many shows I just never accepted the Pro card some people have asked me why. They have about 5 pro shows a year and the big ones are the natural olympia and the universe where u can win money and compete against good competition. Do I do this for the money? No. I just like to compete. In the NPC I know these guys are natural, does it bother me? Nah. I have competed in natural and un natural shows. I love the look on some guys when I beat them knowing the stuff they put in there bodies and they come back and accuse me of doing the same cause they think a natural cant beat them. If you take some of the guys from the WNBF and put them in the Team Universe, they would do very well, becasue naturals bring a different type of conditioning and physique. ie Jim Cordova. He would do very well.
As far as the IFBB, Yes they do have that rule!!!! But you can still appear in any magazine you want. Any time you enter into a professional sport you bring that along.
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As far as the IFBB, Yes they do have that rule!!!! But you can still appear in any magazine you want. Any time you enter into a professional sport you bring that along.
I do agree that the WNBF is shooting themselves in the foot by not allowing their athletes to do this. Why not let them be featured in a mainstream mag. I looked at the latest NB&F magazine this past weekend and think that the ad/content ratio was higher than any of the mainstream mags.
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I do agree that the WNBF is shooting themselves in the foot by not allowing their athletes to do this. Why not let them be featured in a mainstream mag. I looked at the latest NB&F magazine this past weekend and think that the ad/content ratio was higher than any of the mainstream mags.
I was all in favor back in the day about competing in the WNBF but I read the rules and I went with the ABA and NPC. Now more towards the NPC.
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ON the other board there was a thread about natural and unnatural and you came up and lots of crazy posts,good and bad,one i particular stated by getintony that moody looks great ,lean,but i believe he is clean due to the fact that he's tall and standing next to usa's lightheavies he would appear smaller,i disagreed i feel u would have placed top 5 due to condition,shape,structure ,i think you could hang on other variables without the thickness shorter guys had imo....
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I could swear that the NPC has a similar rule. We know the IFBB does.
You can compete in any other org you want if you are an NPC athlete as long as you don't compete for price money. That's because price money means you are a professional. This went to court - the NPC can't ban athletes for competing in other amateur orgs.
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You can compete in any other org you want if you are an NPC athlete as long as you don't compete for price money. That's because price money means you are a professional. This went to court - the NPC can't ban athletes for competing in other amateur orgs.
Very true!! But will the judges favor you the next time they see you on an NPC stage?
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Very true!! But will the judges favor you the next time they see you on an NPC stage?
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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lol, i know, i know
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Kiyoshi,
First of all, great physique man. 8)
Secondly, can you provide an example of your diet, what you eat, including how many calories, grams of protein etc.
Many thanks
J
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Yo, got your text the other day. Sorry we couldn't hook up for some posing in Vegas. I know you'll rock the house in NY. I'm also helping out Bill Lawrence(Lt. Wt) for the TU. He's hungry to get back on the Team too. Stay focus Kiyoshi and win!
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Kiyoshi, great wheels man! ignore the haters and stay focused. you, Chris and JRod are insane!!! so very motivating.
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Yo, got your text the other day. Sorry we couldn't hook up for some posing in Vegas. I know you'll rock the house in NY. I'm also helping out Bill Lawrence(Lt. Wt) for the TU. He's hungry to get back on the Team too. Stay focus Kiyoshi and win!
You got it!!!! 33 more days!!!!! ;D
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Kiyoshi, great wheels man! ignore the haters and stay focused. you, Chris and JRod are insane!!! so very motivating.
Thanks for the compliment!!!! Trying to improve on them even more. Hitting them twice a week right now!!!The haters dont bother me, they just fuel my fire to become more of looking like a unnatural.!!!!!! Chris is very dedicated to the sport he lives it. JROD is still young and look out cause this kid will only get better each year with each show. This kid already has some ridiculous tri's.
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THERE IS NO WAY I CAN COMPETE IN THE IFBB UNDER 202 CLASS, I KNOW MY LIMITS. I'M TOO DAMN TALL.
WILL I EVER COMPETE IN THE WNBF? IF THEY EVER CHANGE THERE RULES YES. AS OF RIGHT NOW, NO.
I still compete in the ABA/INBA/PNBA and also NPC
This may be just my opinion; but, I think you could hold your own at 202 lbs. I looked at the guys who competed at the New York Pro 202-and-under class. To me, their muscles looked worn and frazzled, especially those of the winner, Kevin English. You have a look similar to that of Ronnie Coleman in the early 90s. Johnny Fitness referred to that as a "fresh" look. The muscles don't look torn or burned or filled with worthless veins.
And, speaking of Coleman, the other Ron Coleman, "Alcatraz", (you probably remember him) competed in one pro show. I think it was 1998 IronMan, where he placed 9th. Wasn't he about your size?
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This may be just my opinion; but, I think you could hold your own at 202 lbs. I looked at the guys who competed at the New York Pro 202-and-under class. To me, their muscles looked worn and frazzled, especially those of the winner, Kevin English. You have a look similar to that of Ronnie Coleman in the early 90s. Johnny Fitness referred to that as a "fresh" look. The muscles don't look torn or burned or filled with worthless veins.
And, speaking of Coleman, the other Ron Coleman, "Alcatraz", (you probably remember him) competed in one pro show. I think it was 1998 IronMan, where he placed 9th. Wasn't he about your size?
AND he looked good,i posted that moody could have placed top 5 in usa's on other variables other than mass as main criteria for lightheavy;s to go with shorter stature,he's big for 5'10 due to condition and muscle shape a good advantage.
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http://kiyoshimoody.blogspot.com/
latest blog as I am 29 days out
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http://kiyoshimoody.blogspot.com/
latest blog as I am 29 days out
look great fr most muscular great pose.
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This may be just my opinion; but, I think you could hold your own at 202 lbs. I looked at the guys who competed at the New York Pro 202-and-under class. To me, their muscles looked worn and frazzled, especially those of the winner, Kevin English. You have a look similar to that of Ronnie Coleman in the early 90s. Johnny Fitness referred to that as a "fresh" look. The muscles don't look torn or burned or filled with worthless veins.
And, speaking of Coleman, the other Ron Coleman, "Alcatraz", (you probably remember him) competed in one pro show. I think it was 1998 IronMan, where he placed 9th. Wasn't he about your size?
Thank you very much for even putting me in the sentence with any pro caliber bodybuilders. I appreciate it very much. Being 5'10" is pretty tall for the 202 and under it's just hard standing next to guys like silvio samuel, david henry etc. these guys are maybe 5'6" lol. but I tower over them so in return it would string me out.
As of Ron Coleman, I had a chance to meet him while in vegas at the USA's and when I saw him onstage back in 98 he looked damn tall up there. when I met him I was taller than him. I dunno. If it does happen we will see.
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look great fr most muscular great pose.
Thank you very much!!!!
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Natural or NOT! you look good
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Kiyoshi, got your text message today bro. Keep pounding away and don't forget to pose, pose, pose. They days are flying by and soon you'll be in NY lighting up the stage. You look like everythings on track. I've been working with Bill Lawrence(lt wt) for the past few months and he seems to be on target too. I hope you both do very well and get on the US Team. I fly out to the Europa (Dallas) next week Thursday for my sponsors and will be checking out the 202lbs. pros. Will you be going or staying home and focusing in on the TU?
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Natural or NOT! you look good
Thank you. Very much appreciated!!!!
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Kiyoshi, got your text message today bro. Keep pounding away and don't forget to pose, pose, pose. They days are flying by and soon you'll be in NY lighting up the stage. You look like everythings on track. I've been working with Bill Lawrence(lt wt) for the past few months and he seems to be on target too. I hope you both do very well and get on the US Team. I fly out to the Europa (Dallas) next week Thursday for my sponsors and will be checking out the 202lbs. pros. Will you be going or staying home and focusing in on the TU?
Iam doing, pose, pose, pose. I sent something to "E" and he corrected my back double bi, so i'm working on that. The more I pose the harder I get. It's coming up quick. 27 days now!! I will be staying home to concentrate and focus on the Team U.
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Looking great Kiyoshi! Congrats on your success! Do you have a link for Testosolyze by Species Nutrition? I did a web search and couldn't find anything. Thanks!
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Looking great Kiyoshi! Congrats on your success! Do you have a link for Testosolyze by Species Nutrition? I did a web search and couldn't find anything. Thanks!
thank you very much, here u go
http://speciesnutrition.com/order/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=55
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A great lifetime natural athlete!!!
See you don't need drugs. Just train hard and eat right!!!
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Kiyoshi,
Heck of a set of hamstrings! But you've got to smile more bro. Remember, you actually like posing (just busting on ya!)
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Kiyoshi,
Heck of a set of hamstrings! But you've got to smile more bro. Remember, you actually like posing (just busting on ya!)
lol, I know, everyone tells me that!!!!! I didnt have my peanut butter before I did some posing.lol
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GOOD JOB.LOOKED GREAT
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GOOD JOB.LOOKED GREAT
Thank you very much!!!!
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kyoshi,first if you're natural, fuckin a, you look amazing. even if not natty.
id like to ask you, whats the longest lay-off you've had/taken from bbing?
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My longest layoff was from 2002 thru 2007, This was due to the fact that I was taking care of my mother because she was diagnosed with lung cancer and eventually lost her life in 2005, from there I fell into depression until november of 2006
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Back from the 2008 NPC Team Universe, where I won the Light Heavy weight class. This is the second year in a row where I won this division. Going into the Team Universe my mind was set on winning the Overall. After a hard fought battle with the other division winners it came down to a one point differential between myself and the heavyweight winner Tim Martin.
Unfortunately I didnt come out with the overall win. Is this the end for me? Hell No. Was this hard for me to take? I was very disappointed but at the same time it lit a blazin fire under my azz to train even harder for next year!!
Right now as it turns out the NPC hasnt made the decision to take a team to the IFBB Amateur World Championships in Bahrain. If they do decide to take a team I will return to try and place even higher than I did last year. Last year I was going into this show very tired from competing in 7 shows prior. This year will be different, coming into this show if we go will be my 4th show of the year.
With that being said I have an international show coming up next thursday and a Natural ABA/INBA/PNBA show on October 4th. After this year is all said and done I will concentrate on next years Team Universe.
The improvements I need to make are in my legs with the width and the back width and thickness. After looking at the pics from the Team Universe I got my azz handed to me when we turned around for the back double bi and lat spread. So those will be my main concerns for next year.
Thank you GetBig for all your support . If you have any questions shoot em at me!!!
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great work Kiyoshi, inspiration plus..
Tell me something man, if your in shape early what do you do to keep from losing too much? cut back on cardio duration? frequency? increase cals ie fats?
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great work Kiyoshi, inspiration plus..
Tell me something man, if your in shape early what do you do to keep from losing too much? cut back on cardio duration? frequency? increase cals ie fats?
Thank you very much!!!!
This year I believe I was in shape a little to early for the Team Universe. So what I did was take in natural fats. Organic peanut butter and omega pills from speciesnutrition called omegalyze. Actually I use to cut cardio but I learned when I did this it made me flat for some reason. so now I know not to cut cardio. About a week out from the Team Universe I beleived I looked my best cause I was full and hard but once I cut the cardio my weight dropped from 202 to 191, 192 the time weigh ins came. The year before I kept up my cardio and came in alot fuller last year. Every year is a learning process.
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Thank you very much!!!!
This year I believe I was in shape a little to early for the Team Universe. So what I did was take in natural fats. Organic peanut butter and omega pills from speciesnutrition called omegalyze. Actually I use to cut cardio but I learned when I did this it made me flat for some reason. so now I know not to cut cardio. About a week out from the Team Universe I beleived I looked my best cause I was full and hard but once I cut the cardio my weight dropped from 202 to 191, 192 the time weigh ins came. The year before I kept up my cardio and came in alot fuller last year. Every year is a learning process.
I've done a combination of the same (I am competing in two weeks), firstly bumped up the fats via PB and fish oil-then reduced the intensity of the cardio (it was moderate to begin with) not the DURATION or its frequency.
Here's a pic taken 15 days out..194lbs
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My longest layoff was from 2002 thru 2007, This was due to the fact that I was taking care of my mother because she was diagnosed with lung cancer and eventually lost her life in 2005, from there I fell into depression until november of 2006
hi kiyoshi, thanks for the reply & sorry for your loss bro.
the reason i asked you about your longest lay-off is cause ive been out of the gym for almost 2 years and i just started bodybuilding again.
i was curious if/what your expirience with 'muscle memory' was. roughly how long did it take you to get back to near where you were before your time out of the gym physique/strength wise, does it come back pretty quick, or is muscle memory a myth you think? thx
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hi kiyoshi, thanks for the reply & sorry for your loss bro.
the reason i asked you about your longest lay-off is cause ive been out of the gym for almost 2 years and i just started bodybuilding again.
i was curious if/what your expirience with 'muscle memory' was. roughly how long did it take you to get back to near where you were before your time out of the gym physique/strength wise, does it come back pretty quick, or is muscle memory a myth you think? thx
Let's tackle this piece by piece, First how old are you? Alot has to do with age?
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These are pics of me back in 1998 with the ABA, My first year competing. My weight was 193. Still the same as today the Team Universe I weighed in at 191.
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Let's tackle this piece by piece, First how old are you? Alot has to do with age?
im about 21 bro, i started working out when i was 15, eating 6 times a day etc, never missed a workout or meal for 4 years about 99% of the time. im 6 ft tall and got up to about a litle over 250lbs offseason weight,not a fat offseason weight, probably like 12%bf or so, 15% max.(i am not so knowledgable about bf%s) had some pretty decent lifts, could do 315 on the bench for 6-8,315 squat ass to grass for 20 reps,365 squat for 10-12 atg, 405 deadlift for 20 reps.
i took a break because i was busy with work at the time, and also had sciatic nerve and rotator cuff problem which i figured some time would be good for me anyway. but i fell out of routine, partied with friends, got lazy and just lost all motivation for almost 2 years. now i am sick of being out of shape and been back in the gym and on a bbing diet for a week now, which i know ill stick with.
i debated with myself, should i cut down first, then bulk, or just bulk then cut? i decided i am not super fat, so i will just bulk till at least spring. here is a crappy pic i took just to give an small idea of how fat/not fat i am.
right now im like 202lbs and out of shape obviously. basically just curious about how/if muscle memory worked for you and if it really exists? it would really suck if i had to work out for 4 years again to get back to where i was.
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Hey Bro, sorry it took so long, I had another show in which I competed in this past thursday. So I was getting ready for that one. Ok. Now when people talk about bulking, cutting. To me the case is not to put on fat and get all out of shape with a bulk. Thats ridiculous!! The main thing is to build good quality muscle. Don't just start eating everything you can just for the sake of bulking!!! Make sure you get the right amounts of carbs and proteins and fats in your diet. rest and train and eat frequently. Why worry about cutting unless your getting ready for a show. Make sure you do proper amounts of cardio. This will help to burn some fat!!!!
Will your body remember what it did before you took the layoff? Yes it will remember. Give yourself a good month of proper training. The thing I did before I started to train again before a long layoff was I started to eat a good amount of proteins and carbs and took alot of glutamine the week before I started training and it helped my body recover alot faster.
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Kiyoshi Moody - What do you think about high dosages of olive oil? Is it a waste of time or can you really lean up with it?
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Kiyoshi Moody - What do you think about high dosages of olive oil? Is it a waste of time or can you really lean up with it?
Honestly I have never used olive oil period. I stick to omegas' But iam a firm believer in eat fat burn fat.
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2 double cheeseburgers! u gotta be kidding bro!
are u serious? And if u are, why the cheeseburgers and where do u get them from?
also since u blew up 16lbs after the show, how much of it did u lose til ur next show??
And where are u at now?
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AAAWWW dont get it get to confused with the weight. Alot of it was water I can tell you now. Let's go back a bit. Sunday before weigh ins at the team u, when I got off the plane in new york went to the hotel weighed myself I was 202, the same as when I left san diego. The next couple of days I started to up my carbs and drop the water. Trust me when I say this I was eating like a damn pig in the hotel room at least every hour and half to 2 hours around the clock. boiled chicken breast in distilled water oatmeal, brown rice pasta, egg whites, white rice and still couldnt hold on to the weight. When I stepped on the scale for weighins on thursday at noon I weighed 191. Even after weighins carbed even more and I could not put on any weight. It seemd like my body was burning it faster than I could actually eat.
After the show is where all if came from the liquids. What I try to do is drink soda because it fills me up because of the carbonation and I won't end up swelling up because I would drink to much water after the show.
Honestly it didnt take me long to drop back down. I got back on tueday and the show was the following thursday. So from wednesday up til tuesday I dropped the carbs and added peanut butter (organic) ate salmon and steak and egg whites and Isolyze from species and I was back to be lean again. But u ask where am I now. hahaha. bro i can tell you I can barely see my abs. I will take some pics tonight or tomorrow morning and u will see. The majority is water retention.
Doublechesseburgers, yes, why sit here and lie and tell you I eat clean all the time. Now thats only til October. Once october 1st comes then we back to eating clean again. the hamburgers are just to keep the smile on my face bro. From mickie d's.
Once my video comes out next year you will see. Nothing willbe left out. absolutely nothing!!!!
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AAAWWW dont get it get to confused with the weight. Alot of it was water I can tell you now. Let's go back a bit. Sunday before weigh ins at the team u, when I got off the plane in new york went to the hotel weighed myself I was 202, the same as when I left san diego. The next couple of days I started to up my carbs and drop the water. Trust me when I say this I was eating like a damn pig in the hotel room at least every hour and half to 2 hours around the clock. boiled chicken breast in distilled water oatmeal, brown rice pasta, egg whites, white rice and still couldnt hold on to the weight. When I stepped on the scale for weighins on thursday at noon I weighed 191. Even after weighins carbed even more and I could not put on any weight. It seemd like my body was burning it faster than I could actually eat.
After the show is where all if came from the liquids. What I try to do is drink soda because it fills me up because of the carbonation and I won't end up swelling up because I would drink to much water after the show.
Honestly it didnt take me long to drop back down. I got back on tueday and the show was the following thursday. So from wednesday up til tuesday I dropped the carbs and added peanut butter (organic) ate salmon and steak and egg whites and Isolyze from species and I was back to be lean again. But u ask where am I now. hahaha. bro i can tell you I can barely see my abs. I will take some pics tonight or tomorrow morning and u will see. The majority is water retention.
Doublechesseburgers, yes, why sit here and lie and tell you I eat clean all the time. Now thats only til October. Once october 1st comes then we back to eating clean again. the hamburgers are just to keep the smile on my face bro. From mickie d's.
Once my video comes out next year you will see. Nothing willbe left out. absolutely nothing!!!!
dude if it takes double cheeseburgers to make u happy then damn well u need double cheeseburgers. I know how u feel about not being able to see your abs.
I had a full blown six pack on saturday night, then monday morning when i woke up, my hands and face were swollen like ive never seen before. Now today, everything is better, still not where it should be, but im dropping the water slowly.
Hey and get an apple pie for me at mcdonalds next time ur there! :)
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gotcha on this one bro actually heading there right now. late night snack. lol. apple pies 2 for a dollar!!!! ;D
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gotcha on this one bro actually heading there right now. late night snack. lol. apple pies 2 for a dollar!!!! ;D
your a beast. Id look like a pig if i ate 2 doublecheeseburgers everyday.
Congrats on being able to do that.
I can barely add carbs without getting fat lol.
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squat ass to grass for 20 reps,
Hard to believe but very impressive if true.
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Contemplating on competing in the USA's next year before the Team Universe, Can I crack the Top 5? :-\
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Hey Bro, sorry it took so long, I had another show in which I competed in this past thursday. So I was getting ready for that one. Ok. Now when people talk about bulking, cutting. To me the case is not to put on fat and get all out of shape with a bulk. Thats ridiculous!! The main thing is to build good quality muscle. Don't just start eating everything you can just for the sake of bulking!!! Make sure you get the right amounts of carbs and proteins and fats in your diet. rest and train and eat frequently. Why worry about cutting unless your getting ready for a show. Make sure you do proper amounts of cardio. This will help to burn some fat!!!!
Will your body remember what it did before you took the layoff? Yes it will remember. Give yourself a good month of proper training. The thing I did before I started to train again before a long layoff was I started to eat a good amount of proteins and carbs and took alot of glutamine the week before I started training and it helped my body recover alot faster.
i eat alot but pretty clean, i don't put on too much fat bulking, it's just i have some love handles that why i was thinking about dieting down, to have a clean slate. thx alot for the advice
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Hard to believe but very impressive if true.
well its definitly true..are you saying it's hard to belive based on the pic i posted?? cause, no i definitly couldnt do that right now. last leg workout i did 225 squat for 10 or 12 reps..i dont remember,thats my absolute max right now. im gonna update my progress in the pics section in another month. i dont like to go by the scale, but i started working out a month ago at 200-202 and im 210-212 now,who knows what of that is muscle but i feel a bit bigger,, some decent gains in strength but nothing big..im going to take it easy on lifting heavy if my strength comes back quickly so my tendons/joints can get used to it.
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Contemplating on competing in the USA's next year before the Team Universe, Can I crack the Top 5? :-\
READ BACK A FEW PGS BRO I SAID U COULD ,U MUST HAVE BEEN ON A LOW CARB DAY AND WOOZY...YES I DO.
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u look good for not training, hows the diet been going?? Arent u doing another show this year?
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Thanks,, I am still debating on whether to do another show or not which is nov 8th. I have one more day to decide if I'm going to compete again this year. I will know in the next 24 hours
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Well I've been contemplating in competing in one more show this year. The Natural Olympia in the ABA/INBA/PNBA, in which my good friend Phillip Ricardo is competing in. He competed in the Team Universe back in 2006 in which he took 5th in the LHW He also won this show last year in the Pro Division. The last time we competed against each other was back in 98 in which I won the overall, since then he has competed in numerous organization. I have made the decision not to compete in this years Natural Olympia due to the fact of some injuries that occured and my body is just plan tired and also I can take time to improve on the bodyparts I need to work and spend a good time with my little girl!!! So it's officially offseason for me. I wish my boy Rico the best of luck at the Natural O on Nov 8th. I will be keeping a daily journal on my blog. Daily activities, whats going on, whats coming up, my daily diet whether good of bad, Also my training. so stay tuned it will start tomorrow.
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This guy loves test. suspension, slin and hgh ;D
Funny to see him thinking all getbiggers are mentally challenged.
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lol, just imagine if i did. damn i would actually weigh over 200, dumbass
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lol, just imagine if i did. damn i would actually weigh over 200, dumbass
Well i dont know about that bro, Shawn Ray competed at the same weight for pretty much 15 years and I KNOW he wasnt natural ;)
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Well i dont know about that bro, Shawn Ray competed at the same weight for pretty much 15 years and I KNOW he wasnt natural ;)
But yeah cmon first he is 5'6, i'm 5'11, when he first competed he was a middleweight, I was a lightheavy. offseason he was around 230 to 240, contest weight 215. Shyt I ca barely get past 200 and hold that. my contest weight 191 this past september.
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But yeah cmon first he is 5'6, i'm 5'11, when he first competed he was a middleweight, I was a lightheavy. offseason he was around 230 to 240, contest weight 215. Shyt I ca barely get past 200 and hold that. my contest weight 191 this past september.
just giving u a hard time bro! :)
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This cheater should be banned out of the natural competitions.
I geuss if I were a cheater I would have never passed any tests, hmm How have i passed numerous tests, from urine, poly and blood? and still continue to pass tests. It's all good. It's good to see you use your time wisely on the boards. Damn you must be a pro already. Shyt. NOT!!!!
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Well my decision is made, The only thing I'm waiting for now is if Mr. Manion will be sending over a team to the World Games in China in July. The way it looks the Team Universe will be in September again which is great!!!! The USA's in July. So we will see how the cards fall
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After taking time off from training, as a matter of fact since September. I resumed training today. This was a nice needed break to let my joints, ligaments, bones you name it heal. At the same time mentaly I needed the break. I still weight 207lbs. Last week I started to load up on protein and creatine. It looked something like this.
I was taking Isolyze protein 4 times a day, 50grams per serving with 10grams of glutamine and carbolyze 4 times per day 78grams per serving with 1 serving of size-on 3 times perday. Included I have been taking arthrolyze, testoslyze, omegalyze, multivitamins and fruit a vie.
Last week my meals werent to good, I was eating 3 times perday.
am - 3 bagels with a protein shake
lunch - 2 chicken sandwich
dinner - steak with green salad and 3 cups of rice.
Today I just increased my meals to 5meals perday. adding in one steak meal and rice and one chicken breast meal with rice.
Workout today consisted of nothing but back. The only reason I train back on monday is everyone else trains chest on mondays at just about any gym you go too so all the back machines are open.
Deadlifts 4 sets 15reps
Bent over barbell rows 4 sets 15reps
Underhand pulldowns 4 sets 15reps
Reg lat pulldowns front 4 sets 15reps
Hyperextensions 3 sets 20reps
Thats all she wrote till tomorrow!!!
Nice and easy!!!
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Hi Kiyoshi,
What work do you do?
I'm asking, to get an idea of your daily routine, and how it affects your training/diet/prep, and how you juggle your life/bbing lifestyle.
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Well today was Chest!!!! Damn I can tell you I was weak!!! lol. I had people looking at me like damn what happened to you!!! Dosnt bother me one bit!!!
Hammer strength incline press - 2 sets 20reps, 2 sets 15reps, 2 sets 10reps
Machine incline press - 4 sets 15reps
Hammer strength wide press - 4 sets 15reps
Lying cable flys - 3 sets 20reps
Thats all she wrote!! nice and easy making sure to avoid injuries!!!!
Tomorrow hit some tris and bis. Then friday legs!!
I will post some pics sometime this week of what I look like right now!!!!
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Hi Kiyoshi,
What work do you do?
I'm asking, to get an idea of your daily routine, and how it affects your training/diet/prep, and how you juggle your life/bbing lifestyle.
Actually I own my own personal training business and I'm a manager at La Fitness at the same time I have a 5 year old little girl. My day starts at 330am every morning and ends at 7pm. Just about every minute is accounted for during the day. Is it hard not really. The hardest part is my baby girl. If your a single parent then you would know how hard it is!!!
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you must really have to work to get down 3 bagels in one sitting.. i struggle getting one down
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My day starts at 330am every morning and ends at 7pm.
:o
Big props to you!
Work ethic.
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kyoshi =
this is a super dedicated, natural, good genetics, great work ethic and passion for his body =
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225411.0;attach=273733)
Now, this is you =
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225411.0;attach=274310)
why do you think there is such a huge difference between you and him?
(now, take into consideration, the guy above you has been doing this for most of his life, just like you, and also, he actually did try steroids when he was younger too, but has been clean ever since, and he has great genetics, as evident in his physique and also his placings in the contests he has entered)
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Being a filthy liar is not positive either.
ok but it just seems odd that u praise him in one thread but call him a cheater in this one....
anyhoo, awaiting current pics of kiyoshi....
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kyoshi =
this is a super dedicated, natural, good genetics, great work ethic and passion for his body =
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225411.0;attach=273733)
Now, this is you =
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225411.0;attach=274310)
why do you think there is such a huge difference between you and him?
(now, take into consideration, the guy above you has been doing this for most of his life, just like you, and also, he actually did try steroids when he was younger too, but has been clean ever since, and he has great genetics, as evident in his physique and also his placings in the contests he has entered)
I seen a ton of true natural guys that look better than the guy in the top pic...I looked better than that guy natural at 147 lbs in my first contest...Not a good comparison...
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I seen a ton of true natural guys that look better than the guy in the top pic...I looked better than that guy natural at 147 lbs in my first contest...Not a good comparison...
post a picure. ;)
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post a picure. ;)
23 years old 147 lb...Didnt even know what steroids were at this point...
All im saying is you pic that natural guy in the top pic like he is the pinnacle of what natural can be, you know thats not true...At least be fair about it...
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23 years old 147 lb...Didnt even know what steroids were at this point...
All im saying is you pic that natural guy in the top pic like he is the pinnacle of what natural can be, you know thats not true...At least be fair about it...
Great physique, Hutch.
Looks like your pic has created silence... ;D
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hutch has good build either way ,he has bulked into a solid middle ,upper body has same lines now,his legs have grown big time.
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23 years old 147 lb...Didnt even know what steroids were at this point...
All im saying is you pic that natural guy in the top pic like he is the pinnacle of what natural can be, you know thats not true...At least be fair about it...
tthe guy in the picture is from the front. comparing total muscle i think your about the same. however, thats cool if your a little bit better. it doest change any details of my post... and i would still like kyoshi to answer as to why he believes his physique is better than most juicers who compete and 10 million times better than any true natural who competes (besides of course when compared to a few guys we know arent natural but claim to be natural)
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It comes down to genetics and diet and knowing your body, how your body responds to different types of food, how much etc.... Did genetics help me? Hell Yes. Also a background playing professional football, world class sprinter helped also!!!! Age!!! I'm 38 and it has gotten better with age!!!
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It comes down to genetics and diet and knowing your body, how your body responds to different types of food, how much etc.... Did genetics help me? Hell Yes. Also a background playing professional football, world class sprinter helped also!!!! Age!!! I'm 38 and it has gotten better with age!!!
And people = still buying it ;D
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Gotta get in and train diet and stop making excuses!!!
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And people = still buying it ;D
hahah. I wonder why Kyoshi doesnt hop oin a light cycle of test, do no damage to his health with that cycle, then take the olympia and make a few million then be set for life. HAHAHAH.
kKyoshi why dont you do that?
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hahah. I wonder why Kyoshi doesnt hop oin a light cycle of test, do no damage to his health with that cycle, then take the olympia and make a few million then be set for life. HAHAHAH.
kKyoshi why dont you do that?
Bro your pathetic just because you can't gain anything but fat naturally doesn't make it law for all man kind. I can see why you are upset though naturally he still destroys your overdosed physique.
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Bro your pathetic just because you can't gain anything but fat naturally doesn't make it law for all man kind. I can see why you are upset though naturally he still destroys your overdosed physique.
haha ok "amoney" ::)
Does that earring make you feel special?
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haha ok "amoney" ::)
Does that earring make you feel special?
haha no no it doesnt. Does having your idol as your avatar motivate you to train hard?
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Bro your pathetic just because you can't gain anything but fat naturally doesn't make it law for all man kind. I can see why you are upset though naturally he still destroys your overdosed physique.
hahah nice meltdown. i wont flame you, its okay i used to think like you, one thing though ... heres me at 17 , training two years, totally natural. and had just spend a year dieting off 100lbs of fat. ;)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88/candidate2025/taysideflex.jpg)
anyway, so you can understand some stuff about bodybuilding and "natural"ness....read "disgusted's" posts... read "mindspin"s posts(specifically one post in response to accusations gh15 is lying).... read van bilderass posts......read some william lewellyn....LOOK AT PRO BODYBUILDERS WITH COMMON SENSE... and lastly, while you may not believe gh15 knows what hes talking about, read his posts and realize that milos sarcev, bodybuilding.com, several pros, most knowledgeable people, and even some naysares do believe hes a professionall bb'er and thta he speaks the truth. nasser said hes right too. oh yeah, that reminds me, listen to what nasser says on the subject.
hope this helps.
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I'm watching you.
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Oooops wrong board ,I thought this was the positive board , my bad .
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kiyoshi, still waiting to hear more about what you're doing...and pics too!
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hahah. I wonder why Kyoshi doesnt hop oin a light cycle of test, do no damage to his health with that cycle, then take the olympia and make a few million then be set for life. HAHAHAH.
kKyoshi why dont you do that?
Do what? Use steroids then do the olympia and be set for life?
I dont compete for money, I dont train for money, I dont diet for money. This is something I love to do. Ive done it all my life!! Be set for life. Ive played pro ball, trust me I'm good!!! As far as the Olympia, thats not my ultimate goal. I know what my boundries are and where my physique can take me. Will it do damage to my health? Hell Yes!!!
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Back and tris
Try this workout on for size
Ez bar curls supersetted with Hammer strength preachercurls
The weight I use:
90lbs on ez curls
45lbs on preacher
Ez curls - 15reps
preacher - 15 reps
These are to be done back to back for 3 sets nonstop. example - right after you get done with your first set 15/15, dont rest, your right back to ez curls and preacher curls again
Remember these are for 3 sets.
After there nice and tight
Superset again
Alternating dumbell curls - 60lbs - 12reps 2 sets
Alternating dumbell curls - 20lbs - 24reps 2 sets
Triceps
Everything is supersetted
tricep pressdowns 70/100/130lbs - 25/20/15reps - 1set
rope pressdowns - 50/60/70lbs - 25/20/15reps - 1set
dumbell overhead extension - 70/80/90lbs - 25/20/15reps 1 set
Bench Dips - 25 reps, this never changes
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Here we go again as I enter the 2009 season what my plans are. Been doing pretty good as far as weight and strength. As of right now my plans for 2009 as show wise, July 24th and 25 NPC USA's and Sept the Team Universe. My goals for both shows are to do my best and improve but as far as placing I'm shooting for a Top 5 placing in the light heavies at the USA's and battle again for the top honor at the Team Universe. This year I will be changing some things as far as diet. I will be hiring Dave Palumbo for both the USA's and the Team Universe. I believe with his help I can become tighter and even more conditioned and bring a better package to the stage this year.
I have been busting my ass on deadlifts making that a primary focus along with legs to improve this year. Actually I have ben giving deadlifts there own day. Also making sure I bring out that sweep in my quads and more hang to the hammies.
Example last week I hit deads on there own and again today with back I will hit deads again at the end of the week.
Today:
Deadlifts - 135, 20reps, 2 sets/ 225, 15reps, 2 sets/ 315, 12reps, 2 sets/ 425, 8reps, 2 sets
Tbar Rows - close grip - 2 (45) plates 15reps 2 sets, 3(45) plates 15reps 2 sets, 4(45) plates 10reps 2 sets
Dumbell Rows - 100, 15reps 1set/ 110 15 reps 1 set/ 120 10reps 1 set
Seated Rows - 200, 15 reps 1set/ 220 15 reps 1 set/ 250 10reps, 1 set/ 290 8reps 1 set
Hypeextensions - 25, 20reps 3 sets
Wide chins - 3 sets 10reps, no weight
from week to week I will change it up as far as barbell bentover rows, tbar rows, dumbell rows, underhand pulldowns, deads, etc. It usually never stays the same except for deads!!!
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This is my first attempt at a video. It will get better as I figure out how this works
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2008 Team Universe light heavy weight trophy presentation and posing routine
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Decided to change up my diet in prep for the USA, updated also with training split
http://kiyoshimoody.blogspot.com/
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This is my first attempt at a video. It will get better as I figure out how this works
Are you warming up in the Cal...or just enterring the USA? I will be in the Cal's Closed division.
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Are you warming up in the Cal...or just enterring the USA? I will be in the Cal's Closed division.
Hey Big regmac,
Im just concentrating on the USA's and Team Universe. I might drive up to the jr.cal to watch but not sure yet trying to stay focused!!! The more I travel the harder it is with food!! Gotta stick to the diet!!!
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Just signed a deal with MuscleTech!!! Very excited about the opportunity!!!!!
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Just signed a deal with MuscleTech!!! Very excited about the opportunity!!!!!
congrats...
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Just signed a deal with MuscleTech!!! Very excited about the opportunity!!!!!
Congratulations,bro :)
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Just signed a deal with MuscleTech!!! Very excited about the opportunity!!!!!
Excellent!!!
Just for the record, though, are you with "MuscleTech" itself, or is it Six Star, Muscle Asylum, or Cytogenix?
Regardless, congratulations!!!!
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congrats...
Hey Thank you njflex, very much appreciated
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Congratulations,bro :)
Hey musclecenter, thanks bro!!!!!
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Excellent!!!
Just for the record, though, are you with "MuscleTech" itself, or is it Six Star, Muscle Asylum, or Cytogenix?
Regardless, congratulations!!!!
Just wanted to reiterate the question:
Muscletech, Six Star, Muscle Asylum, or Cytogenix?
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Just wanted to reiterate the question:
Muscletech, Six Star, Muscle Asylum, or Cytogenix?
His post says MuscleTech, so I think we can assume that is his final answer.
Congrats Kiyoshi!!
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His post says MuscleTech, so I think we can assume that is his final answer.
Congrats Kiyoshi!!
I know that. But, people who have been advertised as "signing with MuscleTech" have often ended up with one of the other subsidiary companies.
Leo Ingram was reported in FLEX to have signed with MuscleTech; he does Six Star ads.
Toney Freeman did an interview, saying how he signed with MuscleTech (he does Cytogenix ads) and how he looks forward to joining guys like Joel Stubbs (Muscle Asylum), Dexter Jackson (MuscleTech), and Silvio Samuel (Muscle Asylum).
I just wonder, for example, which NO product he's actually going to endorse: NaNO Vapor (MuscleTech), N.O. Fury (Six Star), N.O. Plasmacore (Muscle Asylum), or CytoNOX (Cytogenix).
He'll look awesome, no matter what. But, inquiring minds want to know.
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I know that. But, people who have been advertised as "signing with MuscleTech" have often ended up with one of the other subsidiary companies.
Leo Ingram was reported in FLEX to have signed with MuscleTech; he does Six Star ads.
Toney Freeman did an interview, saying how he signed with MuscleTech (he does Cytogenix ads) and how he looks forward to joining guys like Joel Stubbs (Muscle Asylum), Dexter Jackson (MuscleTech), and Silvio Samuel (Muscle Asylum).
I just wonder, for example, which NO product he's actually going to endorse: NaNO Vapor (MuscleTech), N.O. Fury (Six Star), N.O. Plasmacore (Muscle Asylum), or CytoNOX (Cytogenix).
He'll look awesome, no matter what. But, inquiring minds want to know.
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Hey MCWAY
Sorry for the long response, Actually I signed with Iovate.
But as for myself I will be using muscletech products. Ive used muscletech products before in 97 when I first started preparing for my first show then later switched to try something different.
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Hey MCWAY
Sorry for the long response, Actually I signed with Iovate.
But as for myself I will be using muscletech products. Ive used muscletech products before in 97 when I first started preparing for my first show then later switched to try something different.
Thanks for the reply.
You DO realize that you will be the subject of scorn by folks here, who have sacrificed their firstborn in a vow to hate all things MuscleTech (assuming that's the brand on which ads you'll be appearing). But, hey, if they hurt your feelings, you can dry your tears with all that $$$$$ you'll be making.
Again, Congratulations!!!
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haha, I know. It really dosnt bother me much if at all. Gotta have a thick skin in this sport. Will I promote muscletech. The products I use!!! To the fulliest!!!
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haha, I know. It really dosnt bother me much if at all. Gotta have a thick skin in this sport. Will I promote muscletech. The products I use!!! To the fulliest!!!
Speaking of the products, I saw a recent promo for MuscleTech's ware and conspicuous by its absense was Anator P-70. Given that, and the fact that I picked up two jugs of it from GNC for $21 on clearance, I get the feeling that MuscleTech has discontinued Anator.
Is that the case? If so, I can see why. Anator tastes rather awful by itself (I usually add extra protein powder to down it and make a better post-workout shake).
I remember when the powdered form of GAKIC got discontinued, GNC dropped the price dramatically. I got nearly three months worth of the powder for the same price as one month's worth of the pills (Heck, I still use the old canister to store my weight gainer).
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Thanks for the reply.
You DO realize that you will be the subject of scorn by folks here, who have sacrificed their firstborn in a vow to hate all things MuscleTech (assuming that's the brand on which ads you'll be appearing). But, hey, if they hurt your feelings, you can dry your tears with all that $$$$$ you'll be making.
Again, Congratulations!!!
You dont sign with a specific brand like six star or MT, or MA...You sign with Iovate then they assign you to represent one of their brands...But you get your choice of all the products from all the brands...Except when its time to prep for a show a then you must use the brand you have been assigned to...Im with cybergenix...been real happy with all their stuff...
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You dont sign with a specific brand like six star or MT, or MA...You sign with Iovate then they assign you to represent one of their brands...But you get your choice of all the products from all the brands...Except when its time to prep for a show a then you must use the brand you have been assigned to...Im with cybergenix...been real happy with all their stuff...
Don't you mean CYTOgenix?
I figured that was the case. But, as I said, people have reported that they've signed with "MuscleTech" (i.e. Freeman, Ingram, Stubbs) but they end up endorsing the other Iovate brands (Cytogenix, Six Star, Muscle Asylum).
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Speaking of the products, I saw a recent promo for MuscleTech's ware and conspicuous by its absense was Anator P-70. Given that, and the fact that I picked up two jugs of it from GNC for $21 on clearance, I get the feeling that MuscleTech has discontinued Anator.
Is that the case? If so, I can see why. Anator tastes rather awful by itself (I usually add extra protein powder to down it and make a better post-workout shake).
I remember when the powdered form of GAKIC got discontinued, GNC dropped the price dramatically. I got nearly three months worth of the powder for the same price as one month's worth of the pills (Heck, I still use the old canister to store my weight gainer).
As far as Anator, I too once used it, did it work in my honest opinion yes, but you are right about the taste. I mixed it with crystal light and it was fine. Im not sure if they discontinued it or not.
Gakic also in powder form was not to good but it hella worked. I remember back in the old days my grandmother gave me castor oil if I were sick and it was nasty tasting but it worked. Im glad they made the pill form!!!! ;D
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As far as Anator, I too once used it, did it work in my honest opinion yes, but you are right about the taste. I mixed it with crystal light and it was fine. Im not sure if they discontinued it or not.
Gakic also in powder form was not to good but it hella worked. I remember back in the old days my grandmother gave me castor oil if I were sick and it was nasty tasting but it worked. Im glad they made the pill form!!!! ;D
I don't think Anator has enough protein. That, along with it's nasty taste (the Orange version is even worse than the Berry Blast/Fruit Punch one), is why I add a scoop of a really sweet protein powder to it. The combo works really well for me.
I haven't used Gakic since 2006. The pills are WAY too expensive; I've never seen them marked down anywhere near as low as the powdered version was back then.
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I don't think Anator has enough protein. That, along with it's nasty taste (the Orange version is even worse than the Berry Blast/Fruit Punch one), is why I add a scoop of a really sweet protein powder to it. The combo works really well for me.
I haven't used Gakic since 2006. The pills are WAY too expensive; I've never seen them marked down anywhere near as low as the powdered version was back then.
I just received my first shipment of gakic, havent tried it yet, I will probably be doing the gakic once my carbs get into the very low stage to get that extra boost. The things I'm taking right now are:
nitro-tech, cell-tech, nano x9, cryotest, prototype, intravol, some omegas, another whey protein, joint supplements, macadamian nut oil
Onething i can tell you what really works is intravol, its pretty good. sometimes i know with certain things its pyschological so i went into the gym oneday with alot of energy the next time went in very tired and that second day when my energy level was low my energy level actually increased during the workout and i felt prety good. I have always taken nanox9 so i know that works as for the rest its still trial and error so we will see
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I just received my first shipment of gakic, havent tried it yet, I will probably be doing the gakic once my carbs get into the very low stage to get that extra boost. The things I'm taking right now are:
nitro-tech, cell-tech, nano x9, cryotest, prototype, intravol, some omegas, another whey protein, joint supplements, macadamian nut oil
Onething i can tell you what really works is intravol, its pretty good. sometimes i know with certain things its pyschological so i went into the gym oneday with alot of energy the next time went in very tired and that second day when my energy level was low my energy level actually increased during the workout and i felt prety good. I have always taken nanox9 so i know that works as for the rest its still trial and error so we will see
I can't stand NITRO-TECH, especially when MuscleTech tried to get cute and make designer flavors like Orange Creme and Chocolate Cinnamon Swirl. I bought those on clearance and they both gave me headaches.
I haven't tried NanoX9. But, I have used Nano Vapor. That stuff is the truth!!! It kicks into gear QUICKLY!! I used to take it in the locker room and by the time I get to the rack for my first set, the hands start tingling and the head starts to feel "strange".
Which do you think works better, NanoX9 or Nano Vapor?
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The Nitrotech products flavors I use are chocolate triple milkshake and strawberry bannna, The strawberry flavor I mix with fruit punch crystal light and its just right!! Both nitrotech products I take right before I go to bed.
On the subject of nanox9 and nano vapor.
I have always taken nanox9 even before a show and I have always got good pumps on stage, especially during posing. My pump and fullness seems to stay. The nano vapor for me takes awhile to work and leaves me thirsty. Once Im 30 minutes into the workout I can feel it working and gives me a pump during the workout but about 30m minutes after Im done that pump is gone. For me I use it more as a energy drink per sae.
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Just hired Dave Palumbo for my final 7 weeks of prep for the Team Universe!!!!
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Just hired Dave Palumbo for my final 7 weeks of prep for the Team Universe!!!!
Missed you at the USA !!!! That was a tough class this year!!!!
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I just received my first shipment of gakic, havent tried it yet, I will probably be doing the gakic once my carbs get into the very low stage to get that extra boost. The things I'm taking right now are:
nitro-tech, cell-tech, nano x9, cryotest, prototype, intravol, some omegas, another whey protein, joint supplements, macadamian nut oil
Onething i can tell you what really works is intravol, its pretty good. sometimes i know with certain things its pyschological so i went into the gym oneday with alot of energy the next time went in very tired and that second day when my energy level was low my energy level actually increased during the workout and i felt prety good. I have always taken nanox9 so i know that works as for the rest its still trial and error so we will see
all natural hard work ::) ::)
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all natural hard work ::) ::)
Think what you want dogg!!!!So the more negativity you bring to me the better I get. so keep bringing it!!!! ;D
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Hey Kiyoshi, Dennis here. Chris Faildo's buddy........sorry i missed you in Vegas as i didnt get a chance to go to show. Was there but was busy loosing my azzzzzzzz gambling! Anyways, man great to see your still hangin in there. We had a blast in Korea even though the food sucked! Remember when you, Shiloh, Kelly Pettiford, me & Eric snuck in our own brown bags in hotel lobby? and when Shiloh left those girls a GIFT when we went into that 31 flavors ice creme shop? Had a great time hanging with you guys......keep in touch bro and good luck at TU this year as i dont think i will be getting out there.
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Kiyoshi if you are the natural one why don't you compete in real natural organisations.
Your a fucking scumbag liar that's why, stop posting on these forums.
Son I do compete in the ABA/INBA/PNBA where actually they get tested through WADA. Have I competed with them recently? No why? I need a challenge. the best pro they have is Phillip Ricardo. I started competing with them back in 98. ooo I also competed with the NGA and IFPA, wont compete in the WNBF because you would be under contract!!
I feel sorry for you bro, hit the gym and actually train, eat clean, well actually eat more than 6 meals per day, do your cardio, get some sleep!!! repeat!!! oooo thats right nevermind, hit mickie D's, go train for 3hours dont do cardio sit on the couch go to sleep at at 2am ur body will grow tha way!!!!!!
Cmon man get real!!!!Do something constructive with your time instead of bashing people on the boards. What a waste of time!!! :o
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Son I do compete in the ABA/INBA/PNBA where actually they get tested through WADA. Have I competed with them recently? No why? I need a challenge. the best pro they have is Phillip Ricardo. I started competing with them back in 98. ooo I also competed with the NGA and IFPA, wont compete in the WNBF because you would be under contract!!
I feel sorry for you bro, hit the gym and actually train, eat clean, well actually eat more than 6 meals per day, do your cardio, get some sleep!!! repeat!!! oooo thats right nevermind, hit mickie D's, go train for 3hours dont do cardio sit on the couch go to sleep at at 2am ur body will grow tha way!!!!!!
Cmon man get real!!!!Do something constructive with your time instead of bashing people on the boards. What a waste of time!!! :o
You must be among the best......the NON competitiors on this board think ALL BBer's must be on something illegal. Best of luck in 2010 USA!!!!
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Hey Kiyoshi, Dennis here. Chris Faildo's buddy........sorry i missed you in Vegas as i didnt get a chance to go to show. Was there but was busy loosing my azzzzzzzz gambling! Anyways, man great to see your still hangin in there. We had a blast in Korea even though the food sucked! Remember when you, Shiloh, Kelly Pettiford, me & Eric snuck in our own brown bags in hotel lobby? and when Shiloh left those girls a GIFT when we went into that 31 flavors ice creme shop? Had a great time hanging with you guys......keep in touch bro and good luck at TU this year as i dont think i will be getting out there.
Hey bro, how you doing!!! What you didnt go to the show!!!!! :o lmao!!! good times!!!! He left there azzz a nice gift huh!!! Still hanging in there Team Universe coming up quick!!!! I will try and do my best. Thanks bro!!!!!
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Son I do compete in the ABA/INBA/PNBA where actually they get tested through WADA. Have I competed with them recently? No why? I need a challenge. the best pro they have is Phillip Ricardo. I started competing with them back in 98. ooo I also competed with the NGA and IFPA, wont compete in the WNBF because you would be under contract!!
I feel sorry for you bro, hit the gym and actually train, eat clean, well actually eat more than 6 meals per day, do your cardio, get some sleep!!! repeat!!! oooo thats right nevermind, hit mickie D's, go train for 3hours dont do cardio sit on the couch go to sleep at at 2am ur body will grow tha way!!!!!!
Cmon man get real!!!!Do something constructive with your time instead of bashing people on the boards. What a waste of time!!! :o
The waste of time you being on these getting into with these guys. Just do you thing and pretend they don't even exist.
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all natural hard work ::) ::)
Why the emphasis on Cryotest? From what I've seen, it's basically amped-up version of MuscleTech's old supplement from the late 90s, Acetabolan. Cryotest is basically several forms of Carnitine, with some Longjack and Avena Sativa.
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KiyoshiMoody, you have those same little red bumps on your abs that a lot of pros have... hmmm.
-A DUB
You look way too close at that guy's body. You know what COLOR his bumps are!!! :o
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kinda hard to hide those sub q injections... (no homo)
-A DUB
Sorry, but I have NO iterest looking for them on his body.
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imagine that, looking at a guys abs in a shirtless bodybuilding photo. (no homo), but u are totally in the closet bro. your hero is injecting himself.
-A DUB
He's not my hero, I never had one. I live reality. And certainly NOT in the closet. But anyones skin can show needle marks that can actually be skin irritation or even BUG BITES!!!!!!
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Let me add to this since ADUB dosnt do his research before accusing or spouting off at the mouth. The bumps on my abs are called lipomas. google it!!!!
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Let me add to this since ADUB dosnt do his research before accusing or spouting off at the mouth. The bumps on my abs are called lipomas. google it!!!!
so if u aint a drug user, how the hell do u look so muscular?
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Competing i'm 195 onstage, I'm 5'10. Hardly muscular!! Remember being onstage is an illusion. My joints are small so I give off the appreance of looking alot bigger than I actually am. Besides eating and very strict dieting and the changes that I make to my training every year is the key. Learning your own body!!!
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Competing i'm 195 onstage, I'm 5'10. Hardly muscular!! Remember being onstage is an illusion. My joints are small so I give off the appreance of looking alot bigger than I actually am. Besides eating and very strict dieting and the changes that I make to my training every year is the key. Learning your own body!!!
still big tho,illusion or not.
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I beg to differ!!! At my height I should be a heavyweight!!! I'm competing against guys that are 5'5 to 5'8 at the same weight!!! Its hard to compete against them. This is my first offseason that I'm actually on a eating program!!! Actually my girl has me eating like mad!! For the first time its not fast food!!! All good clean food!! So we will see how my body responds!!!
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Competing i'm 195 onstage, I'm 5'10. Hardly muscular!! Remember being onstage is an illusion. My joints are small so I give off the appreance of looking alot bigger than I actually am. Besides eating and very strict dieting and the changes that I make to my training every year is the key. Learning your own body!!!
I didn't even think you were a light-heavyweight. You resemble a lanky heavyweight to me. I figured you were about 6'3", 225 lb. or so
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lol, the weight Iam hoping for oneday, but the height wont happen!!! on stage people think i'm about 220 but when they see me offstage they always say u look alot smaller offstage!!!
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i never actually realised you were so light lol
You should see my cousin, the guy outweighs you by 20lbs and can bench press 350lbs with a suit
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i never actually realised you were so light lol
You should see my cousin, the guy outweighs you by 20lbs and can bench press 350lbs with a suit
I'm not heavy at all!!! even my measurements, i confuse alot of people. Some people think my arms are at least 20 or bigger and when i tell them no bigger than 18 there baffled. I win alot of bets!!! Benching wise, i havent benched since 1995 when i played ball. Now i stick to dumbbells!!!
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Lipoma? hahah Only roughly 1% of the population as a whole will develop a lipoma, and they are FAR more common on people in their 40's,50's, 60's... but imagine that, SO many bodybuilders have them, on their abs!!! INCLUDING YOU! ;D :o
Try again bro...
-A DUB
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I'm not heavy at all!!! even my measurements, i confuse alot of people. Some people think my arms are at least 20 or bigger and when i tell them no bigger than 18 there baffled. I win alot of bets!!! Benching wise, i havent benched since 1995 when i played ball. Now i stick to dumbbells!!!
I agree dude ur not heavy
no disrespect bro but ur actually pretty small and weak compared to my cousin, dude is a beast and all natural. Its just genes cuz he dont weightlift or nothing.
Dont take it the wrong way tho, u are strong for your size
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I'm not heavy at all!!! even my measurements, i confuse alot of people. Some people think my arms are at least 20 or bigger and when i tell them no bigger than 18 there baffled. I win alot of bets!!! Benching wise, i havent benched since 1995 when i played ball. Now i stick to dumbbells!!!
You can't tell they are saying all this to punk you? I know your natural...so do others who actually follow the sport.
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Lipoma? hahah Only roughly 1% of the population as a whole will develop a lipoma, and they are FAR more common on people in their 40's,50's, 60's... but imagine that, SO many bodybuilders have them, on their abs!!! INCLUDING YOU! ;D :o
Try again bro...
-A DUB
GDUB youe quite hilarious, do your reseach again if they were gh bumps you dont inject intot eh top of your abs look how high mine go!!! Lets assume i was taking gh for a minute dont you think i would be alot bigger than 195? my weight hasnt changed from when i started competing back in 98. Back then I weighed the same!!!
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I agree dude ur not heavy
no disrespect bro but ur actually pretty small and weak compared to my cousin, dude is a beast and all natural. Its just genes cuz he dont weightlift or nothing.
Dont take it the wrong way tho, u are strong for your size
Like I said bodybuilding is not about how much you can bench or sqaut. The judges never ask you that. When I played ball, during combine tryout i benched 225 for 23 full reps (not half reps, full reps) ran a 40 in 4.3
Genetics has alot to do with everything. I gotta have them
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Kiyoshi, you know a lot about where to inject GH dont ya? lol... you can inject it any place you want sub q...
Do your thang man
-A DUB
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Kiyoshi, you know a lot about where to inject GH dont ya? lol... you can inject it any place you want sub q...
Do your thang man
-A DUB
Well being accussed all the time im learning more and more everyday!!! so actually yes i know!!! do your research big man!!! lol oh yeah in the off season i weigh 280lbs from all the gh use!!!!lol
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Well being accussed all the time im learning more and more everyday!!! so actually yes i know!!! do your research big man!!! lol oh yeah in the off season i weigh 280lbs from all the gh use!!!!lol
You lose 90lbs to compete ???
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You lose 90lbs to compete ???
Please tell me your kidding and you really believed that?
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Please tell me your kidding and you really believed that?
whats your offseason weight plan to be as compared to past,are u planning to a lightheavy again.whats ur usual offseason weight,you said in tha past u actually grew into a show.
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You could juice for 10-20 years and still weigh the same. Look at Dexter, he isnt 250 pounds just cause he's been using GH and steroids for 15+ years... Lee Priest competed at the same weight for years...
Shawn Ray also weighed the same for the last 10 years of his bodybuilding career...
But Kiyoshi the great with his "great genetics" could never juice, because he still weighs 200 lbs... ::)
-A DUB
P.S. you might wanna have those "lipoma's" removed... there is a risk of malignant transformation! ::)
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Kiyoshi your arguments are so flawed... you could juice for 10-20 years and still weigh the same. Look at Dexter, he isnt 250 pounds just cause he's been using GH and steroids for 15+ years...
Shawn Ray also weighed the same for the last 10 years of his bodybuilding career...
-A DUB
FYI DJ competes at 230 now ......he was about 208 in most shows 4 yrs ago. Shawn says he's been ;) natural since the 1990 ASC.
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Which proves nothing?
get off your hero's cock bro!
-A DUB
I have no hero's. I just give facts.
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"A DUB", this isn't the thread or the board for accusations, maybe you should move along to a different thread if you don't have anything productive to add to the discussion. :)
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"A DUB", this isn't the thread or the board for accusations, maybe you should move along to a different thread if you don't have anything productive to add to the discussion. :)
Thanks :'(
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Whats life without the haters. They need something to do!!! Turn ur hate into something positive bro!!!
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Whats life without the haters. They need something to do!!! Turn ur hate into something positive bro!!!
my couisin is stronger and bigger than u, he dont even workout or take any of those supplements
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my couisin is stronger and bigger than u, he dont even workout or take any of those supplements
lol, That good!!! Make sure he puts his talents to use!!!! What being bigger and stronger if you cant put it to use!!!! Get him playing ball, mma, powerlifting something!!!!
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Whats life without the haters. They need something to do!!! Turn ur hate into something positive bro!!!
I don't think they "hate" on you as they act. They probably actually believe you are 100 percent natural. They just like punking you. Its all entertainment now. Best of luck in the 2010 USA.
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I don't think they "hate" on you as they act. They probably actually believe you are 100 percent natural. They just like punking you. Its all entertainment now. Best of luck in the 2010 USA.
Thanks bro!! I know sometimes its quite funny!!!! but yes entertaining!!! what up next for you? jr.cal, well now its called the what? west coast classic?
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Thanks bro!! I know sometimes its quite funny!!!! but yes entertaining!!! what up next for you? jr.cal, well now its called the what? west coast classic?
It may be the OC, the Cal and the Jr cal/West Coast Classic I am still learning the ropes with dieting and conditioning.
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It may be the OC, the Cal and the Jr cal/West Coast Classic I am still learning the ropes with dieting and conditioning.
You in SoCal, Reginald?
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Happy New Year to everyone!!!! Hey Reg anytime you have any questions in prep let me know bro!!!!
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Everyone has a lagging bodypart. I'm no bodybuilding expert but by looking at your pics I would say yours is your legs. No offense just ur upper body is huge, so I was wondering how you go about bringing up a lagging bodypart.
Train with more frequency? Heavier? Less often? Different angles? Thanks for your advices and good luck in your next contest.
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You in SoCal, Reginald?
Yep and will be for the next 12 years I suppose. :'(
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Happy New Year to everyone!!!! Hey Reg anytime you have any questions in prep let me know bro!!!!
Thanks, I pretty much know WHAT TO DO. DOING IT with a busy schedule and low funds is another. But as long as I continue getting better, I'm happy.
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Thanks, I pretty much know WHAT TO DO. DOING IT with a busy schedule and low funds is another. But as long as I continue getting better, I'm happy.
I know what your saying about low funds, i did some negotiating and searching. Now its cheap for me I spend $7 for 120eggs, 40lbs of whole skinless chicken breast for $50, 10lbs of taliapia for $20, 40lbs of lean beef $30. It all comes down to dieting bro u know that!!!
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Everyone has a lagging bodypart. I'm no bodybuilding expert but by looking at your pics I would say yours is your legs. No offense just ur upper body is huge, so I was wondering how you go about bringing up a lagging bodypart.
Train with more frequency? Heavier? Less often? Different angles? Thanks for your advices and good luck in your next contest.
No offense taken!!! Well regarding my legs, I really didnt train them to much last year or the year before because of recent knee injuries. Since the beginning of December I've been hitting them hard. Actually started doing squats again. But to start bringninng up my legs Ive been hitting them every 4 days Heavier but with alot of frequency. There were days I was tired but i would still hit that bodypart but i would change the workout volume. I actually would go lighter weights and work on the contraction
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No offense taken!!! Well regarding my legs, I really didnt train them to much last year or the year before because of recent knee injuries. Since the beginning of December I've been hitting them hard. Actually started doing squats again. But to start bringninng up my legs Ive been hitting them every 4 days Heavier but with alot of frequency. There were days I was tired but i would still hit that bodypart but i would change the workout volume. I actually would go lighter weights and work on the contraction
Ok thanks. So more volume and heavier weight if you are up to it. Do you think this works for all lagging bodyparts such as biceps?
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I know what your saying about low funds, i did some negotiating and searching. Now its cheap for me I spend $7 for 120eggs, 40lbs of whole skinless chicken breast for $50, 10lbs of taliapia for $20, 40lbs of lean beef $30. It all comes down to dieting bro u know that!!!
Rent and Sallie Mae (not a baby mama, but a financial aid loan shark company) split most of my paycheck. So its more like eat what I can get by on for now. No excuses, it is what it is. As far as legs go, they take time. I've been squating for over 15 years now and they are now starting to grow.
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Ok thanks. So more volume and heavier weight if you are up to it. Do you think this works for all lagging bodyparts such as biceps?
I believe in instinctive training!!! Everyday I go into the gym I never know what exercises i will hit i have an idea but it changes on the fly. I never know how many reps i will go or sets. We all have our good and bad days so I go off of how i feel once i get to the gym and get warmed up. But to bring up lagging bodyparts i like muscle confusion!!! every 2 weeks i will blast them with a different rep scheme, drop sets, giant sets, pyramid etc. Do i think it works for all lagging bodyparts? Yes!!! it's been working for my back and legs and shoulders!!!! So hit the arms with some muscle confusion!!!!
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I know what your saying about low funds, i did some negotiating and searching. Now its cheap for me I spend $7 for 120eggs, 40lbs of whole skinless chicken breast for $50, 10lbs of taliapia for $20, 40lbs of lean beef $30. It all comes down to dieting bro u know that!!!
Sounds like you shop at restaraunt depot...thats where i go and get those same prices...
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Pretty much, they distribute to resturants out here in san diego!!! The best!!!
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Kiyoshi you have an incredible physique..Reminds me of levronie and a early career Coleman hybrid. Sick to think how much you will improve. Very inspiring.
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Kiyoshi you have an incredible physique..Reminds me of levronie and a early career Coleman hybrid. Sick to think how much you will improve. Very inspiring.
Thanks bro!!!! Make sure you check out my new website coming soon!!!! it will be updated just about every week including training workouts, my diets, alot more
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Just finalized my agreement and now proud to announce that I will be a part of Team GENR8. Thank you Anthony Almada and Tamer Kholousi for taking the time and patience in finalizing this deal!!!! I look forward to representing GENR8 to the fullest!!!
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This isn't a natural physique. That kind of dryness and hardness doesn't come naturally. You're not fooling me man. Been around this sport for almost 2 decades on several different avenues. I wonder if you already gotten to a point where you don't feel any bit of guilt for lying to people? Or do you actually believe yourself, if that's the case that's pretty sick.
Great physique though but shame on you for the compulsive lying.
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Thats what sets me apart from you and I!!!! I never set limits on myself, unlike you!!!! 2 decades!!! now thats funny!!! Thats it!!! Ive been around a lot longer than that son!!! Again dont set limits on yourself if you do than your already failing!!! Think what you want bro!!! Dosnt bother me one bit!!! I sleep very well at night!!! Ive been tested every way possible from blood to urine to poly!!!! Passed every test!!!! Now that I'm with Genr8 that have a policy to test anytime without notice and post results!!! Either way thank you for the compliment!!! Also I have brought this type of conditioning and dryness to other competitiors naturally and they couldnt believe the results. But I forgot you set limits!!!
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Thats what sets me apart from you and I!!!! I never set limits on myself, unlike you!!!! 2 decades!!! now thats funny!!! Thats it!!! Ive been around a lot longer than that son!!! Again dont set limits on yourself if you do than your already failing!!! Think what you want bro!!! Dosnt bother me one bit!!! I sleep very well at night!!! Ive been tested every way possible from blood to urine to poly!!!! Passed every test!!!! Now that I'm with Genr8 that have a policy to test anytime without notice and post results!!! Either way thank you for the compliment!!! Also I have brought this type of conditioning and dryness to other competitiors naturally and they couldnt believe the results. But I forgot you set limits!!!
good answer,,,,honest to me,,
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Thats what sets me apart from you and I!!!! I never set limits on myself, unlike you!!!! 2 decades!!! now thats funny!!! Thats it!!! Ive been around a lot longer than that son!!! Again dont set limits on yourself if you do than your already failing!!! Think what you want bro!!! Dosnt bother me one bit!!! I sleep very well at night!!! Ive been tested every way possible from blood to urine to poly!!!! Passed every test!!!! Now that I'm with Genr8 that have a policy to test anytime without notice and post results!!! Either way thank you for the compliment!!! Also I have brought this type of conditioning and dryness to other competitiors naturally and they couldnt believe the results. But I forgot you set limits!!!
First of all, you don't have a clue who I am or what I've done. You have no idea what my phsique looks like on stage or off. I've been on both sides of the track -- natural and not. You're talkin about not setting limits like you've done something nobody else hasn't. And if you been around for more than 2 decades, weighing in at 195 is quite small, so sounds like you've set limits on your own physique or you would have broke 200 lbs 10 years ago.
While I may believe you don't touch some enhancers, I'd bet my left nut your taking T3, Clen, Win V and Halo or Anavar pre-contest. Let me guess, you use some herbal blend to lose your water and have never touched Lasix or aldactone or the like? ::)
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First of all, you don't have a clue who I am or what I've done. You have no idea what my phsique looks like on stage or off. I've been on both sides of the track -- natural and not. You're talkin about not setting limits like you've done something nobody else hasn't. And if you been around for more than 2 decades, weighing in at 195 is quite small, so sounds like you've set limits on your own physique or you would have broke 200 lbs 10 years ago.
While I may believe you don't touch some enhancers, I'd bet my left nut your taking T3, Clen, Win V and Halo or Anavar pre-contest. Let me guess, you use some herbal blend to lose your water and have never touched Lasix or aldactone or the like? ::)
LMAO, Exactly your right I have no clue who you are or what you have done!!! As the same goes for me!!! You dont know me. I just came back on the seen since 2007. Last time I competed was back in 98. I trained clients before that and have played arena and nfl ball. So why would I want to get over 200 as a defensiveback? It wont happen. You should know bodybuilding is all about illusion of being on stage and improving from time to time, whether its size, conditioning, symmetry etc. My forte has always been conditioning. In the offseason I do other things outside that dont deal with bodybuilding. As a natural competitior it is very hard for me to put on size but I do every year. I usually take 3 to 6 months off from training. This is the first year that I have trainined straight through since my last competition and stayed on top of my diet so you will see a bigger improvement this year!!! The first thing that will come out of your mouth will be, shyt what did he take this offseason!!! lol!!! I love it when people think that.
So you would bet your left nut!!!!lmfao!!! I geuss you would be with only one test left!!!
About losing water I use a certin protocol that a lot of natural guys wont use. Why because they are scared they will go flat!!! But actually you are right about diurectics!!!! I use Aqualyze by species!!!! I dont consume water for about 2 days, days leading up to it I taper off water. And carb up!!! Spilling over is not an option as you would know since there is no water consumption!!
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Ya, well, I'll go with my gut on this one.
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Bro its all good!!!! Everyone will have there opinion!!! Actually it makes me feel more determined and good that people think I'm on something!!! Just imagine if I were!!!! OH DAMN!!!! ;)
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First of all, you don't have a clue who I am or what I've done. You have no idea what my phsique looks like on stage or off. I've been on both sides of the track -- natural and not. You're talkin about not setting limits like you've done something nobody else hasn't. And if you been around for more than 2 decades, weighing in at 195 is quite small, so sounds like you've set limits on your own physique or you would have broke 200 lbs 10 years ago.
While I may believe you don't touch some enhancers, I'd bet my left nut your taking T3, Clen, Win V and Halo or Anavar pre-contest. Let me guess, you use some herbal blend to lose your water and have never touched Lasix or aldactone or the like? ::)
HEY.......WHEN WILL BLOKES LIKE YOU GET OVER BODYWEIGHT? WHY IS IT THAT A GUY HAS TO WEIGH OVER 200 TO BE CONSIDERED BIG.......YOU SOUND LIKE A FOOL.......SHAWN WAS 205-210......SAMIR WAS 190-205.......MARK DUGDALE AND MANY OTHERS ARE COMPETING IN THE 202 CLASS.....WAKE UP BRO.....GET PAST THE THAT MIND SET THAT YOU MUST WEIGH OVER 200 TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON THE SPORT......FOR CHRIST SAKES......LEE PRIEST IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE PHYSIQUE ATHLETES ON THE PLANET AND HE STAYS RIGHT AROUND 200.
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KIYOSHI......YOU LOOK GREAT, SIR.......PISS ON THESE SOUP STIRRERS......HOW DO THEY KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN YOUR LIFE?
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HEY.......WHEN WILL BLOKES LIKE YOU GET OVER BODYWEIGHT? WHY IS IT THAT A GUY HAS TO WEIGH OVER 200 TO BE CONSIDERED BIG.......YOU SOUND LIKE A FOOL.......SHAWN WAS 205-210......SAMIR WAS 190-205.......MARK DUGDALE AND MANY OTHERS ARE COMPETING IN THE 202 CLASS.....WAKE UP BRO.....GET PAST THE THAT MIND SET THAT YOU MUST WEIGH OVER 200 TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON THE SPORT......FOR CHRIST SAKES......LEE PRIEST IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE PHYSIQUE ATHLETES ON THE PLANET AND HE STAYS RIGHT AROUND 200.
Your talking about guys that are 5'4-5'7, Kyoshi is like 5'10. You missed the point, but anyhoo
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i didn't miss the point........you have no point......he is clean.....you say he isn't......i say.....HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU KNOW????
he is drug free.....so 190-200 at 5'10.......CLEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IS IMPRESSIVE........you missed the point.....not me!!
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Damn you gave me 5'10" thanks!!!!! I grew an inch!!! ;D
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You look good bro..but imo you are not natural and thats not a bad thing either .. Not flaming you but I have been doing this long enough to seperate fact from fiction.
Either way keep training hard mate and good luck :)
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Damn you gave me 5'10" thanks!!!!! I grew an inch!!! ;D
I guess you lied on your bodyspace? :D
5' 10" (1 m 78 cm) Waist: 32" (81.28 cm)
Weight: 236 lb (107.3 kg) Thighs: 27" (68.58 cm)
Bodyfat: 15.0 % Calves: 17" (43.18 cm)
Chest: 47" (119.38 cm) Forearms: 12" (30.48 cm)
Arms: 19.75" (50.17 cm)
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/thenaturalone/
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i'll quit kissing his ass, if you stop attacking him......DEAL?
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You look good bro..but imo you are not natural and thats not a bad thing either .. Not flaming you but I have been doing this long enough to seperate fact from fiction.
Either way keep training hard mate and good luck :)
Thanks bro!!! I understand!!!! I take everything as a compliment. Stay tuned wait til u see what I look like this year after not taking a break off from training and upping my cals to about 5000 per day!! You really gonna think like wtf!!!! lol!!! Even I have this offseason.
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KIYOSHI......YOU LOOK GREAT, SIR.......PISS ON THESE SOUP STIRRERS......HOW DO THEY KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN YOUR LIFE?
Thanks bro!!!! I never let it bother me!!! I find it at times pretty comical!!! It takes to much energy to put people down for what someone thinks they do!!! I'm a very positive person!!!
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I guess you lied on your bodyspace? :D
5' 10" (1 m 78 cm) Waist: 32" (81.28 cm)
Weight: 236 lb (107.3 kg) Thighs: 27" (68.58 cm)
Bodyfat: 15.0 % Calves: 17" (43.18 cm)
Chest: 47" (119.38 cm) Forearms: 12" (30.48 cm)
Arms: 19.75" (50.17 cm)
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/thenaturalone/
Dude these are just estimates, not exact!!!! If you ever meet me in person at a show then you will know!!!! oh my weight is now 224 something like that bf i believe down to 6 to 7
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Dude these are just estimates, not exact!!!! If you ever meet me in person at a show then you will know!!!! oh my weight is now 224 something like that bf i believe down to 6 to 7
Hey, I'm just going by what your wrote for your own bodyspace stats, but then told me you weren't that height ???
Anyhoo
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I understand not prob i didnt know how to do 1/4 or 1/2 on the stats so i just went by estimates. so i contacted the admin my buddy on bb.com and he did it for me
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Keep it clean, bitches. :)
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Keep it clean, bitches. :)
lol, always
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Since coming back from Australia I had a eye opening realization on where i had to be in this sport and why so I had to make a very difficult decision. Positive changes are about to happen, with the backing of my sponsor GENr8 the skies the limit. Every competitor better be on the ball cause I'm coming for you!!!!
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Since coming back from Australia I had a eye opening realization on where i had to be in this sport and why so I had to make a very difficult decision. Positive changes are about to happen, with the backing of my sponsor GENr8 the skies the limit. Every competitor better be on the ball cause I'm coming for you!!!!
ok,does that mean going the unnatural route?
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I will not be competing in the NPC Team Universe in 2010 possibly ever again. After coming back from Australia I was very well received in OZ and to what direction I should go. That is to compete in only the Natural Organizations. Which Ones? IFPA as a Pro, INBA/PNBA as a pro, Musclemania as a Pro and possibly the NGA as a Pro. My first show will possibly be in 3 weeks. My shows are all lined up for the year just waiting for the approval of my sponsor. So stay tuned for which ones I will be competing in.
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I will not be competing in the NPC Team Universe in 2010 possibly ever again. After coming back from Australia I was very well received in OZ and to what direction I should go. That is to compete in only the Natural Organizations. Which Ones? IFPA as a Pro, INBA/PNBA as a pro, Musclemania as a Pro and possibly the NGA as a Pro. My first show will possibly be in 3 weeks. My shows are all lined up for the year just waiting for the approval of my sponsor. So stay tuned for which ones I will be competing in.
cool...see what u meant then,good luck,i think u did well at the team u and were a front runner at your class,but u have to do what u think is right.i still think u could have been top 5 at usa's,maybe being at the top of the sport for the natural org's is better for your sponsor,be well...
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cool...see what u meant then,good luck,i think u did well at the team u and were a front runner at your class,but u have to do what u think is right.i still think u could have been top 5 at usa's,maybe being at the top of the sport for the natural org's is better for your sponsor,be well...
Thank you very much NJFLEX, i completly understand where your coming from. I just had to think about at my age what direction I was going. With the IFBB i wouldve been done and at the same time to influence the younger generation coming up is a little harder. So in my heart I know I have a calling to compete in the natural organization and really try and do something special. I will always support the NPC and IFBB, I have a lot of friends that compete with them I love the sport so I'm still behind them!!!!
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I will not be competing in the NPC Team Universe in 2010 possibly ever again. After coming back from Australia I was very well received in OZ and to what direction I should go. That is to compete in only the Natural Organizations. Which Ones? IFPA as a Pro, INBA/PNBA as a pro, Musclemania as a Pro and possibly the NGA as a Pro. My first show will possibly be in 3 weeks. My shows are all lined up for the year just waiting for the approval of my sponsor. So stay tuned for which ones I will be competing in.
Can't your sponsor send you to the Universe, without your having to do the TU? What if they did that and you ended up winning your class, there?
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solid natural physique, just imagine if he would use!!!!!!!!
roflmaolol
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solid natural physique, just imagine if he would use!!!!!!!!
roflmaolol
Thanks, imagine if I did!!!! :o
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Kiyoshi. Damn your conditioning is unbelievable! Most guys here limit their minds to wht can be done without drugs. They have this problem of thinking that all humans must have the same genetic levels......assinine thought if u ask me!! Paying your dues over the years takes time and most guys want results to fast so they jump into a bottle of test and then think thats the only way to do it. The truth is they sold themselves short to early and cant go back.
Props for doing this drug free, man!! Ill be visiting this thread more and will look over your blog to see whts going on. Thanks for posting here. 8)
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235 on the Incline Smith, what a beast. :P
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Kiyoshi:
Great work on a great NATURAL build. I too am natural and have been for the 18 years i've been training.
Can you give a little feedback on what you do in the offseason (when you're not competing) to stay lean. Diet? Cardio?
I've got a good natural build and would like to dieting down a little, but am afraid of losing too much muscle during the process. Can you give me some keys?
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Kiyoshi. Damn your conditioning is unbelievable! Most guys here limit their minds to wht can be done without drugs. They have this problem of thinking that all humans must have the same genetic levels......assinine thought if u ask me!! Paying your dues over the years takes time and most guys want results to fast so they jump into a bottle of test and then think thats the only way to do it. The truth is they sold themselves short to early and cant go back.
Props for doing this drug free, man!! Ill be visiting this thread more and will look over your blog to see whts going on. Thanks for posting here. 8)
Thank you very much. I will be posting here more.
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235 on the Incline Smith, what a beast. :P
Remember I dont put up th whole training session but this is my 4th set of a drop set of the same weight same reps. :)
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Kiyoshi:
Great work on a great NATURAL build. I too am natural and have been for the 18 years i've been training.
Can you give a little feedback on what you do in the offseason (when you're not competing) to stay lean. Diet? Cardio?
I've got a good natural build and would like to dieting down a little, but am afraid of losing too much muscle during the process. Can you give me some keys?
My keys for you keep eating clean in the offseason but increase your P/C/F but make sure your doing the cardio. Also after you training the important thing to remember carbs before protein. Take in some fast acting carb such as Vitargo then the protein or take it together.
What I do is I drink 2 scoops of Vitargo with bcaa and then I get home and drink a shake right away.
Cardio is done 20 to 30 on the treadmill at 3.5 to 3.9 flat.
Hope this helps
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My keys for you keep eating clean in the offseason but increase your P/C/F but make sure your doing the cardio. Also after you training the important thing to remember carbs before protein. Take in some fast acting carb such as Vitargo then the protein or take it together.
What I do is I drink 2 scoops of Vitargo with bcaa and then I get home and drink a shake right away.
Cardio is done 20 to 30 on the treadmill at 3.5 to 3.9 flat.
Hope this helps
Thank you for the info and your time! Good luck to you!
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Remember I dont put up th whole training session but this is my 4th set of a drop set of the same weight same reps. :)
Haha, was just teasing you bro. ;) Obviously your physique speaks for itself. Put up some of your better lifts on youtube!
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Alright Kiyoshi:
Just watched your benching video, and your legs looked awesome for a natty when you got off the bench.
What is your leg workout like?
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Thank you for the info and your time! Good luck to you!
Thank you very much!!! Anytime you have a question!!!!
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Alright Kiyoshi:
Just watched your benching video, and your legs looked awesome for a natty when you got off the bench.
What is your leg workout like?
Thanks!!!! My leg workouts are prety crazy!!! I do a lot of volume with a lot of weight. Drop sets, pyrmarid sets, etc. Right now my legs are hit 3 times per week so bring in the conditioning and to dry them out. Its very hard especially since my cardio is done everyday.
example
leg extensions - 15 reps 7sets supersetted with Lying hack squat 15 reps 7sets ( this is done nonstop)
Smith machine squat - drop set 5reps,10reps,15reps,20reps. Thats one set. I complete 3 sets going heavier on the next 2 sets.
Reverse plea hack squat - drop set - 5reps, 10reps, 15reps, 20reps. 3sets
Walking lunges - no weight, superset with abductor machine
Again right now I'm getting ready for a competition so each session is different
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As of today it is 2 weeks til the INBA/PNBA Natural Universe and I am right on pace to be at my all time best. Take it one show at a time right now. Natural Universe is first. Nov 6th. Even though I'm feeling like crap on most days i"m very excited as each approaches. My workouts are still heavy but with a lot of volume.
Example Bentover rows 315lbs 10reps, drop set from there, 225 15reps, 135 20reps - 3sets
Corner rows 7 35lb plates supersetted with 100lb dumbell rows 15reps on each exercise 3 sets
Hammer strength rows - 2 -45plates on each side high pull superset with incline lying barbell rows - 15reps , 3 sets
Cable puldowns -7sets 5reps 120lbs
Cardio is 40min on the revolving stairmill in the early morning on an emtpty stomach and 40min stairmill again at night. On legs days its bike or treadmill.
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As of today it is 2 weeks til the INBA/PNBA Natural Universe and I am right on pace to be at my all time best. Take it one show at a time right now. Natural Universe is first. Nov 6th. Even though I'm feeling like crap on most days i"m very excited as each approaches. My workouts are still heavy but with a lot of volume.
Example Bentover rows 315lbs 10reps, drop set from there, 225 15reps, 135 20reps - 3sets
Corner rows 7 35lb plates supersetted with 100lb dumbell rows 15reps on each exercise 3 sets
Hammer strength rows - 2 -45plates on each side high pull superset with incline lying barbell rows - 15reps , 3 sets
Cable puldowns -7sets 5reps 120lbs
Cardio is 40min on the revolving stairmill in the early morning on an emtpty stomach and 40min stairmill again at night. On legs days its bike or treadmill.
Id like to see your bentover row drop sets on video with the weights and reps above!
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Thosre arent all THAT heavy. I believe those numbers. I can do more, but hes thicker and rounder (and shorter) than me, so it sort of jives.
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Thosre arent all THAT heavy. I believe those numbers. I can do more, but hes thicker and rounder (and shorter) than me, so it sort of jives.
No you can't. :'(
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Thosre arent all THAT heavy. I believe those numbers. I can do more, but hes thicker and rounder (and shorter) than me, so it sort of jives.
;D Do it!!! Train hard!!!! I believe you can find it somewhere on youtube. Your right it's not that heavy but take in the case of reps and sets and 2weeks out from a show and keeping the form strict. Its heavy for me. Being 40 also ;D
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3 days out from the INBA/PNBA Natural Universe
This will be my last depletion workout for the week. Chest/bis and tris - Should last 45min at the most then 30min on the treadmill. First coat of protan went on last night. Sodium gets cut at noon today and carb is starts tomorrow. For the carb up process I will be using VitargoS2, brown rice,oats, rice crackers and japanese sweet potatos. That will be for thursday. Friday is a little different I just add in peanut butter on the rice crackers to add in the fats. My team did a trial run with peanut butter and rice crackers 3 weeks prior and it worked perfect. My body responded very well. This will be the same for friday all night into saturaday morning. I will also add in steak starting early friday morning and throught out the day. As some may not drop water, For me I drop water. I start dropping water tomorrow. Right now my mood is pretty good. Tired and really weak but this is where it becomes mental.
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good luck,,,
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Won the INBA/PNBA Natural Universe this past weekend in Hollywood. Now onto the Natural Olympia.
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CONGRATS!!! ALL THAT HARD WORK PAYS OFF MY MAN!!
Just be glad I don't compete. ;D
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Just won the INBA/PNBA Natural Olympia, Top 3 at the Natural Olympia, Myself, Phillip Ricardo and Mike Waddington
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Your physique is amazing. Your legs have such great conditioning.
I would love to know what your natural cutting diet is like.
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Look Great man I will be in San Diego in December maybe I'll get a chance to to meet you. Your legs are very impressive! I am actually a native of mission bay its a great place to train and live. I'm on the east coast and no disrespect but I'm not impressed buy the lack of intrest in the sport out here. You seem very dedicated. Keep it up.
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wow dude you look sickkk! up the dose and be Mr.olympia!!!
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wow dude you look sickkk! up the dose and be Mr.olympia!!!
Well consider I get tested every 2 to 3 months, urine and hair follicle testing. Wouldnt work!!!! ::)
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Congratulations,bro :)
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Well consider I get tested every 2 to 3 months, urine and hair follicle testing. Wouldnt work!!!! ::)
im talking true mr.olympia not natural mr olympia
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Well consider I get tested every 2 to 3 months, urine and hair follicle testing. Wouldnt work!!!! ::)
hair follicle testing?? you dont even have hair lmao
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Whats your stack? ops forgot, its the "positive board", youre safe in here. lol ::)
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Whats your stack? ops forgot, its the "positive board", youre safe in here. lol ::)
lol but seriously even if hes a lying piece of shit he looks fucking awesome. Levronesque in that most muscular shot. gotta give him that
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Whats your stack? ops forgot, its the "positive board", youre safe in here. lol ::)
I believe if you got off your lazy ass and looked through the thread he's answered what supplements he takes quite a few times. :)
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I believe if you got off your lazy ass and looked through the thread he's answered what supplements he takes quite a few times. :)
i like you better in the G&O. :D
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lol but seriously even if hes a lying piece of shit he looks fucking awesome. Levronesque in that most muscular shot. gotta give him that
Yes he looks great no doubt.
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i like you better in the G&O. :D
Ron won't make me a mod there......... :D
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Kiyoshi Moody you look great bro, but why you don't take just 25mg winstrol every 5 days like Lee Priest? I'm sure you would be top 3 Mr O. in a couple of months. And I don't think this small dose would hurt your health.
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Congratulations,bro :)
Thanks bro, very much appreciated!!!!
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im talking true mr.olympia not natural mr olympia
lmao, I will stick to the Natural Olympia. Thanks for the compliment though!!!!
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hair follicle testing?? you dont even have hair lmao
They take the hair from anywhere, the lab that comes will take the hair from anywhere they can. At the same time the urine test is random from the orginazation and my sponsor GENr8 also tests me. if I deny at any time I wil lose my sponsorship
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Whats your stack? ops forgot, its the "positive board", youre safe in here. lol ::)
It's all good bro!!!! Your only paying me the hugest compliment ;D
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Yes he looks great no doubt.
Thanks to you guys for the compliment!!!!I was 195lb in that pic! Believe or not the judges told me I won my only one point. One judge said the blonde guy from australia eat me in that most muscular pose!!! :'(
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Kiyoshi Moody you look great bro, but why you don't take just 25mg winstrol every 5 days like Lee Priest? I'm sure you would be top 3 Mr O. in a couple of months. And I don't think this small dose would hurt your health.
lol, let alone it would hurt and as well as my daughter!!!! Would never do that to her!!!!
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Natural Universe Post
http://kiyoshimoody.blogspot.com/
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Natural Universe Post
http://kiyoshimoody.blogspot.com/
KiyoshiMoody = A23 approved. Or disapproved based on my supposedly "drop in popularity".. whatever works... regardless.. impressive bro, I was checking your competing stats on Tim fogarty's site...
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KiyoshiMoody = A23 approved. Or disapproved based on my supposedly "drop in popularity".. whatever works... regardless.. impressive bro, I was checking your competing stats on Tim fogarty's site...
Thanks!!!! Tim's site is all not accurate but pretty close to it.
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just like gh15 says they all tell storys if this guys natural than so am i
toooo fffuuunnnnyyy!! i love it though
maybe he will start sellin protein n creatine n bcas that great!!
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Let me start off by introducing myself.
I was originally born in Japan and came to the United States at the young age of two. I grew up in San Diego, California and thats where I currently reside. I first started weight training back in college for football and track where I qualified for the US Olympic trials in the 100m and they went on to play Professional Arena Footbal and a brief stint in the NFL. I became serious about weight training and bodybuilding back in 1998. Where I competed in my first show ABA Hercules Classic where I won the Novice overall title and the Open Overall Title and from there caught the bug and went on to compete in 20 more shows over the next 2 years. Then took a very long layoff from the sport until this past year. Where I competed in the San Diego Classic and won the Light HeavyWeight title and went on to win the Overall as well. Having never competed in the NPC, this was a new avenue I was coming down, knowing that the majority of competitors I was up against have used or are using gear. So with guidance from an NPC judge he convinced me to compete in my first national level show " Team Universe" where I won the light HeavyWeight Class. I usually diet up for a show meaning in the offseason I drop weight. My next competiton will be the 2008 Team Universe in NYC in which I am getting ready for in the next month. You can catch my training logs in either kiyoshimoody.blogspot.co m or kiyoshimoody.com.
I will be open to answer any questions you throw at me!!!
Kiyoshi Moody
You state you played with Kurt Warner who played for the Barnstormers, but I haven't found you on any of their rosters.
http://www.arenafan.com/teams/?page=history&team=23&year=0&team=23
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just like gh15 says they all tell storys if this guys natural than so am i
toooo fffuuunnnnyyy!! i love it though
maybe he will start sellin protein n creatine n bcas that great!!
Sir, you can believe what you would like to believe!!!! Ive been tested through blood, urine, hair follicle and poly every 2 to 3 months randomly, but I know you will say they can all be passed. lol. I have no time in my life to even deal with that. It's all good!!!! Your gonna take this to the gossip board and spread more false things. Dosnt bother me any sir. Just makes me stronger.
Actually good idea about selling protein, bcaa and creatine!!!lol
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Kiyoshi: I'm astounded by your natural leg development. Generally I don't perform any squatting anymore due to lower back strain. I do mostly high rep leg press. Lately i've been feeling some pain on my kneecaps while pressing. Seems to hurt more with lower weight, higher reps than it does with heavier weight.
Any thoughts? Probably just natural I guess and comes with years of training. Any supps you suggest to help?
Congrats on that olympia. natural bodybuilders are amazing at this level.
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Sir, you can believe what you would like to believe!!!! Ive been tested through blood, urine, hair follicle and poly every 2 to 3 months randomly, but I know you will say they can all be passed. lol. I have no time in my life to even deal with that. It's all good!!!! Your gonna take this to the gossip board and spread more false things. Dosnt bother me any sir. Just makes me stronger.
Actually good idea about selling protein, bcaa and creatine!!!lol
ur on the wronge board to tell fairtales superman ..are u from krypton....
dude that would be the same as me claimin i was natural when i did my best powerlifting total at nationals, and i was blood and yern tested and i passed along with ed coan ,steve goggans, kirk kawalski and all the rest i did 1930 @ 237 with single ply shit...if i said i was natural i get the same shit u are....
you should man up brother and admit the truth
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ur on the wronge board to tell fairtales superman ..are u from krypton....
dude that would be the same as me claimin i was natural when i did my best powerlifting total at nationals, and i was blood and yern tested and i passed along with ed coan ,steve goggans, kirk kawalski and all the rest i did 1930 @ 237 with single ply shit...if i said i was natural i get the same shit u are....
you should man up brother and admit the truth
lol. This SCREAMS jealousy.
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So did you really play for the Barnstormers and if you did why are you not listed on their previous rosters? Even guys with 1 tackle, 1 carry, 1 kickoff, etc. are listed. Care to comment?
BTW I think your physique is phenomenal. I just don't believe you played pro football.
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ur on the wronge board to tell fairtales superman ..are u from krypton....
dude that would be the same as me claimin i was natural when i did my best powerlifting total at nationals, and i was blood and yern tested and i passed along with ed coan ,steve goggans, kirk kawalski and all the rest i did 1930 @ 237 with single ply shit...if i said i was natural i get the same shit u are....
you should man up brother and admit the truth
Again, I'm not here to try to convince you if I'm natural or not. So you kind sir can believe what you would like. My client which is also a natural competitior has even placed higher than me at the USA's, he was top 5. He's 47 and you wouldnt know it. We've been working together for the past year and all we did was adjust his diet and training methods. Before he couldnt place in the top 10 at a national level show. A local show he would win his weight class no problem. This year he will compete in the Team Universe and the USA's again as well as the Natural Universe and Natural Olympia. Does that mean he uses? I believe you would say so. On the other board G&O I saw people commenting on how I look compared to the bodybuilders of the golden era. I'm not even close to there size. Illusion is everything and you should no that if your a competitior. That pic of me on the other board I'm 195lbs not even close to IFBB pro's that stand 240 and above. Arnold, Sergio would dwarf me. What helps me out is my conditioning and small joints. It makes everything look bigger. I have had some many people on these boards tell me I use, until they see me at a expo and introduce themselves and say what everyone says. You look smaller in person than onstage and pics. Correct!!! Illusion.
To also clear the record I do not diet up for shows, ala Kevin Levrone. I dieted up for the first year when I was coming back to competing. Now I drop weight like just about everyone out there. I'm about to be 40yrs old with over 20 years of weight training experience behind me> Learing your body is key. If I were a user wouldnt someone that uses get bigger from year to year or better yet get better and harder? IMO. My physique has stayed the same from 98 til 2010. My weight has never changed once I step onstage except for some shows where I didnt come in at the best shape. A person can always get leaner. correct?
Every person trys to mimic others diets, training methods etc. Shyt I've done it. Did I use Dave Palumbo for my prep? Yes, I tried the keto was I considering using Hany for my prep? Yes. I picked up magazines, copied Chris Aceto's plan for precontest dieting looked through Flex, Musclemag etc and tried different things out. What I came to find out things work different for diefferent people. I'm sure we can agree on that. It's up to you to find out what works for you and dont be afraid to try different things. I even tried powerlifting for awhile!!!! Hell No!!!! Thats hella nuts. Much respect to powerlifters!!!! I found out what training methods work for me and dieting methods work for me thats all.
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So did you really play for the Barnstormers and if you did why are you not listed on their previous rosters? Even guys with 1 tackle, 1 carry, 1 kickoff, etc. are listed. Care to comment?
BTW I think your physique is phenomenal. I just don't believe you played pro football.
Thank you for the compliment!!!
Again, your not gonna find everything there is to no, on sites. Did it say that shawn collins was traded from iowa to anaheim when I came aboard? No. Like I said I have proof that I played. Why am I going to lie about something like that. friends that come over and see pics etc. Love it. other than that i'm not going to post and brag about my accomplishments about what I did and when and where and this and that. I put it out there that I played arena ball. thats it. I played ball in the NFL (practice squad got moved up and down) thats it. whether you believe me or not thats up to you. If you wanna come down to cali in the warm weather down here in sunny san diego and see if I still have it come on down. My pleasure.
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Just won the INBA/PNBA Natural Olympia, Top 3 at the Natural Olympia, Myself, Phillip Ricardo and Mike Waddington
The weights on everyone were
Myself 195, Phillip Ricardo 180, Mike Waddington 215
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Thank you for the compliment!!!
Again, your not gonna find everything there is to no, on sites. Did it say that shawn collins was traded from iowa to anaheim when I came aboard? No. Like I said I have proof that I played. Why am I going to lie about something like that. friends that come over and see pics etc. Love it. other than that i'm not going to post and brag about my accomplishments about what I did and when and where and this and that. I put it out there that I played arena ball. thats it. I played ball in the NFL (practice squad got moved up and down) thats it. whether you believe me or not thats up to you. If you wanna come down to cali in the warm weather down here in sunny san diego and see if I still have it come on down. My pleasure.
Post a pic with your number and uniform on with at least another Barnstormer player. I'm sure you have at least one. ;)
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bro if its not bb related I wont post anything on here especially with another player if I dont have there permission.
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bro if its not bb related I wont post anything on here especially with another player if I dont have there permission.
I don't even remember you playing football at Castle Park High and somehow you went on to be a pro football player. What college did you go to? Also whatever happened about becoming a sheriff?
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U dont remember me playing at castle? wow really considering i made all league !!!! now thats hilarious!!!! after castle I went to southwestern cc earned all conference honors and earned a scholarship to play at wayne state in nebraska. Took a differnt route into becoming a sheriff. The hours worked wouldnt fit into what I enjoy doing besides had a long talk with my ex brother in law whom is a sheriff and he said the same thing. Wouldnt fit in to what I would enjoy doing. Glad you so interested into my life
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OOO, Also qualified for the Olympic Trials in the 100m, if you can find that!
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I believe you about the 100m. You barely lost to Glen Reyes.
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yup that was high school, but got a lot faster once I got to jc. Also was privilged enough to run against carl lewis at the drake relays
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ur the funniest guy ive seen yet!!
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ur the funniest guy ive seen yet!!
Thank you
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yup that was high school, but got a lot faster once I got to jc. Also was privilged enough to run against carl lewis at the drake relays
How much faster? Your best in HS was in the high 10's right?
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at southwestern i was clocked at 10.18. we had the top relay team in the nation until i tore my hamstring.
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New Blog
http://kiyoshimoody.blogspot.com/
Friday, December 10, 2010
This will be my offseason diet for the next 4 to 8 weeks. Some adjustments will be made during the course. This diet will start on monday of this coming week. My workouts are still on hiatus. Haven't been to the gym since winning the Natural Olympia. I was going to start this past monday but decided to wait for another week.
Meal 1- 10egg whites, 2whole eggs with 1 1/2c of oatmeal with 2tablespoons of organic peanut butter
Meal 2- 2 scoops of iso100 with 2 scoops of vitargo
Meal 3- 10oz of cooked chicken, 2c of white rice, 1c of green beans
Meal 4- 10oz of cooked chicken, 2c of white rice, 1c of green beans
Meal 5- 10oz of cooked steak, 2 whole sweet potatos, or 2cups of pasta, 1c of green beans
Meal 6- 2 scoops of iso100 with 2 scoops of vitargo
Meal 7- 10oz of cooked steak, 1c of grits, 1c of green beans
Meal 8 - casein protein or syntha or musclemilk, 2scoops before bed.
Cheat meals on tuesdays and saturdays. Whenever needed.
Supplements used:
Xtend- 6scoops in a half gallon jug of water. 3xper day.
Digestive enzymes- 2pills every meal
Vitargo 2x not including preworkout, intra and post
Superpump or EVP
Multivitamin 2x/day
Sizeon or crealyze 2sccops 2x/day
Iso 100 (protein by dymatize)
Omega pills 1pill 3x/day
Joint supps, 5pills, 2x/day
Glutamine - 1 teaspoon 3x per day.
Cardio - 4times a week 30min on treadmill
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The weights on everyone were
Myself 195, Phillip Ricardo 180, Mike Waddington 215
''Natural'' Olympia , hahaha oh brother ,
GTFO of here
Ooops wrong board
Congratulations Kiyoshi you looked awesome man, best natural I have ever seen .
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There is no fucking way this guy is natural.
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Welcome aboard! ;D
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Kyoshi: When you say 2 cups rice, is that after being cooked, or dry amount?
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Remember, if you keep the test below 1.5 grams, you can still call yourself a "natural".
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Hahaha ;D
lmao
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There is no fucking way this guy is natural.
Again, I'm not here to try to convince you if I'm natural or not. So you kind sir can believe what you would like. My client which is also a natural competitior has even placed higher than me at the USA's, he was top 5. He's 47 and you wouldnt know it. We've been working together for the past year and all we did was adjust his diet and training methods. Before he couldnt place in the top 10 at a national level show. A local show he would win his weight class no problem. This year he will compete in the Team Universe and the USA's again as well as the Natural Universe and Natural Olympia. Does that mean he uses? I believe you would say so. On the other board G&O I saw people commenting on how I look compared to the bodybuilders of the golden era. I'm not even close to there size. Illusion is everything and you should no that if your a competitior. That pic of me on the other board I'm 195lbs not even close to IFBB pro's that stand 240 and above. Arnold, Sergio would dwarf me. What helps me out is my conditioning and small joints. It makes everything look bigger. I have had some many people on these boards tell me I use, until they see me at a expo and introduce themselves and say what everyone says. You look smaller in person than onstage and pics. Correct!!! Illusion.
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Kyoshi: When you say 2 cups rice, is that after being cooked, or dry amount?
2 cups already cooked. All measurements are cooked
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Remember, if you keep the test below 1.5 grams, you can still call yourself a "natural".
It would be picked up in a hair follicle test!!!!
Again, I'm not here to try to convince you if I'm natural or not. So you kind sir can believe what you would like. My client which is also a natural competitior has even placed higher than me at the USA's, he was top 5. He's 47 and you wouldnt know it. We've been working together for the past year and all we did was adjust his diet and training methods. Before he couldnt place in the top 10 at a national level show. A local show he would win his weight class no problem. This year he will compete in the Team Universe and the USA's again as well as the Natural Universe and Natural Olympia. Does that mean he uses? I believe you would say so. On the other board G&O I saw people commenting on how I look compared to the bodybuilders of the golden era. I'm not even close to there size. Illusion is everything and you should no that if your a competitior. That pic of me on the other board I'm 195lbs not even close to IFBB pro's that stand 240 and above. Arnold, Sergio would dwarf me. What helps me out is my conditioning and small joints. It makes everything look bigger. I have had some many people on these boards tell me I use, until they see me at a expo and introduce themselves and say what everyone says. You look smaller in person than onstage and pics. Correct!!! Illusion.
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you are bald how can you do this test???
Seriously dude?
The dude competes NATURALLY. Get over it... and your own lousy genetics.
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Kiyoshi is a stand up guy......he is great in my book.
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As natural as green weeping cock cheese
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It would be picked up in a hair follicle test!!!!
Again, I'm not here to try to convince you if I'm natural or not. So you kind sir can believe what you would like. My client which is also a natural competitior has even placed higher than me at the USA's, he was top 5. He's 47 and you wouldnt know it. We've been working together for the past year and all we did was adjust his diet and training methods. Before he couldnt place in the top 10 at a national level show. A local show he would win his weight class no problem. This year he will compete in the Team Universe and the USA's again as well as the Natural Universe and Natural Olympia. Does that mean he uses? I believe you would say so. On the other board G&O I saw people commenting on how I look compared to the bodybuilders of the golden era. I'm not even close to there size. Illusion is everything and you should no that if your a competitior. That pic of me on the other board I'm 195lbs not even close to IFBB pro's that stand 240 and above. Arnold, Sergio would dwarf me. What helps me out is my conditioning and small joints. It makes everything look bigger. I have had some many people on these boards tell me I use, until they see me at a expo and introduce themselves and say what everyone says. You look smaller in person than onstage and pics. Correct!!! Illusion.
you are a liar,,im god of hormones and im tellin you you are a liar,,why do you lie? because you make a living of it,,you need the lie to survive like skip and to a lesser degree like nortom,,but never the less you lie like faildo ,,you know when you say 195 on stage and you balonie those kids to actualy believe 195 is nothing ,,in the condition you PRESENT IT IS A LOT OF SOMETHING,,there was never the natural who ever steped on stage sub8% 195 and height of 5'10 7lb per inch ,,the best natural to ever walk on earth which i trained and i wont name his name walked on stage 7% 192lb 5'11 and a half ,, and he was THE BST NATURAL I AHVE EVER TRAINED OR TRAINED WITH,,and i trained them all,,
you got to remember mr frank zane was mr o 185 your condition ,,,he could see it better and skin was better because he used less hormones than you ....but never the less he USED HORMONES AND HE WASS 185! mr o!! so you come here and put again weight like it matter,, size is size ,,weight is weight,,you know very well what god of hormones talking about,,195lb fella can wipe the floor with 250lb fella if the 195 lb is mainly muscle and down to 6% while the 250lb is bloofy and 15% ,,wipe the floor with the 250 fella ,,so the example you gve is not good and is misleading,,
i rarely interfer with this balonie but this is just not right what you are doing,,
most hormonizer fellas that walk on staeg 195 SWIMMMM in hormones,,they just dont abuse gh and insulin thats why not 240,,who are you tellin balonie here inorder to make few bucks,,dont you understand that the members here are actual bodybuild and many are co competitors of yours under gimick acounts? dont you understand that the condition you present can not come unless trenbolona is used on a regular basis ,,dont you understant that the t hickness you present when 195 on stage can only come if testosterona was in system to create this thickness along with the trenbolona? dont you understand those things??
you need to take a good look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself ,,why do i lie and what do i achieve by lieing,,because one day your kid will grow up...and that kid will know the truth because he will see his genetic only gets him to 180 10% and you will have to look in this kids face,,and face the truth ,,im sure you will lie to the kid too but ask yourself why you do this,,what does it give you ,,there is not much money in natural bodybuild to become rich,, if you were sucesful model like sagi i would say ok maybe,,but even sagi is very honest when he talk to other bodybuildrs,,big diff between fan boys and otheeer bodbybuilders,,
this is realy sad the need of you to lie just because you cant get to 230 on stage ,,,230 will have to be all out usage of hgh and insulina....you only want the 200 zone so you can go on and make a living out of natural bodybuild which does nto exsist,,
sad
gh15 approved
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you are a liar,,im god of hormones and im tellin you you are a liar,,why do you lie? because you make a living of it,,you need the lie to survive like skip and to a lesser degree like nortom,,but never the less you lie like faildo ,,you know when you say 195 on stage and you balonie those kids to actualy believe 195 is nothing ,,in the condition you PRESENT IT IS A LOT OF SOMETHING,,there was never the natural who ever steped on stage sub8% 195 and height of 5'10 7lb per inch ,,the best natural to ever walk on earth which i trained and i wont name his name walked on stage 7% 192lb 5'11 and a half ,, and he was THE BST NATURAL I AHVE EVER TRAINED OR TRAINED WITH,,and i trained them all,,
you got to remember mr frank zane was mr o 185 your condition ,,,he could see it better and skin was better because he used less hormones than you ....but never the less he USED HORMONES AND HE WASS 185! mr o!! so you come here and put again weight like it matter,, size is size ,,weight is weight,,you know very well what god of hormones talking about,,195lb fella can wipe the floor with 250lb fella if the 195 lb is mainly muscle and down to 6% while the 250lb is bloofy and 15% ,,wipe the floor with the 250 fella ,,so the example you gve is not good and is misleading,,
i rarely interfer with this balonie but this is just not right what you are doing,,
most hormonizer fellas that walk on staeg 195 SWIMMMM in hormones,,they just dont abuse gh and insulin thats why not 240,,who are you tellin balonie here inorder to make few bucks,,dont you understand that the members here are actual bodybuild and many are co competitors of yours under gimick acounts? dont you understand that the condition you present can not come unless trenbolona is used on a regular basis ,,dont you understant that the t hickness you present when 195 on stage can only come if testosterona was in system to create this thickness along with the trenbolona? dont you understand those things??
you need to take a good look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself ,,why do i lie and what do i achieve by lieing,,because one day your kid will grow up...and that kid will know the truth because he will see his genetic only gets him to 180 10% and you will have to look in this kids face,,and face the truth ,,im sure you will lie to the kid too but ask yourself why you do this,,what does it give you ,,there is not much money in natural bodybuild to become rich,, if you were sucesful model like sagi i would say ok maybe,,but even sagi is very honest when he talk to other bodybuildrs,,big diff between fan boys and otheeer bodbybuilders,,
this is realy sad the need of you to lie just because you cant get to 230 on stage ,,,230 will have to be all out usage of hgh and insulina....you only want the 200 zone so you can go on and make a living out of natural bodybuild which does nto exsist,,
sad
gh15 approved
This post needs to be stickied..
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you are a liar,,im god of hormones and im tellin you you are a liar,,why do you lie? because you make a living of it,,you need the lie to survive like skip and to a lesser degree like nortom,,but never the less you lie like faildo ,,you know when you say 195 on stage and you balonie those kids to actualy believe 195 is nothing ,,in the condition you PRESENT IT IS A LOT OF SOMETHING,,there was never the natural who ever steped on stage sub8% 195 and height of 5'10 7lb per inch ,,the best natural to ever walk on earth which i trained and i wont name his name walked on stage 7% 192lb 5'11 and a half ,, and he was THE BST NATURAL I AHVE EVER TRAINED OR TRAINED WITH,,and i trained them all,,
you got to remember mr frank zane was mr o 185 your condition ,,,he could see it better and skin was better because he used less hormones than you ....but never the less he USED HORMONES AND HE WASS 185! mr o!! so you come here and put again weight like it matter,, size is size ,,weight is weight,,you know very well what god of hormones talking about,,195lb fella can wipe the floor with 250lb fella if the 195 lb is mainly muscle and down to 6% while the 250lb is bloofy and 15% ,,wipe the floor with the 250 fella ,,so the example you gve is not good and is misleading,,
i rarely interfer with this balonie but this is just not right what you are doing,,
most hormonizer fellas that walk on staeg 195 SWIMMMM in hormones,,they just dont abuse gh and insulin thats why not 240,,who are you tellin balonie here inorder to make few bucks,,dont you understand that the members here are actual bodybuild and many are co competitors of yours under gimick acounts? dont you understand that the condition you present can not come unless trenbolona is used on a regular basis ,,dont you understant that the t hickness you present when 195 on stage can only come if testosterona was in system to create this thickness along with the trenbolona? dont you understand those things??
you need to take a good look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself ,,why do i lie and what do i achieve by lieing,,because one day your kid will grow up...and that kid will know the truth because he will see his genetic only gets him to 180 10% and you will have to look in this kids face,,and face the truth ,,im sure you will lie to the kid too but ask yourself why you do this,,what does it give you ,,there is not much money in natural bodybuild to become rich,, if you were sucesful model like sagi i would say ok maybe,,but even sagi is very honest when he talk to other bodybuildrs,,big diff between fan boys and otheeer bodbybuilders,,
this is realy sad the need of you to lie just because you cant get to 230 on stage ,,,230 will have to be all out usage of hgh and insulina....you only want the 200 zone so you can go on and make a living out of natural bodybuild which does nto exsist,,
sad
gh15 approved
lmao, you sir have issues. Youve trained the best of the best, so you say then you sir should know never pass judgement and genetics play an important role with anyone. U cant just have an average person and turn them into the best bodybuilder in the world. 1st thing is first you have to have the genetics. But I geuss you overlook that corrrect. Calling me a liar etc. Dosnt bother me one bit. I look in the mirror everyday and I'm proud of the accomplishments that I have made.
One day my kid will grow up and know the truth!!! lol. My daughter already has the great genetics.
You come on here with all your accusations, Then put your money where your mouth is plain and simple. If your up for the challenge. TEST ME. anywhere anytime. You put up the money for the test and what you want to be tested and how. But reality will speak for itself. You will make some excuse and not do it.
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lmao, you sir have issues. Youve trained the best of the best, so you say then you sir should know never pass judgement and genetics play an important role with anyone. U cant just have an average person and turn them into the best bodybuilder in the world. 1st thing is first you have to have the genetics. But I geuss you overlook that corrrect. Calling me a liar etc. Dosnt bother me one bit. I look in the mirror everyday and I'm proud of the accomplishments that I have made.
One day my kid will grow up and know the truth!!! lol. My daughter already has the great genetics.
You come on here with all your accusations, Then put your money where your mouth is plain and simple. If your up for the challenge. TEST ME. anywhere anytime. You put up the money for the test and what you want to be tested and how. But reality will speak for itself. You will make some excuse and not do it.
genetic my ass! ,,i been on olympia stage you have not!,,dont teach me how the game go ,,you try to teach the teacher,,you are a liar,,genetic mean nothing when it comes to the size you present and condition you present in that size,,
you need to realize that all bodybuild now day know that ITS ALL IN THE TRENBOLONA POWDER and the testosterona poweder,,every single bodybuildr know this,, as i said before every so call liar natural cna pass test no problem like i past milion tests,,those tests are nothing,,unless it is blood test and its done on a daily basis you cant know and will never know what one uses,,even with blood test there is a way to misgude the test and you know it well,,in general no one test for blood so this worry is not need to be taken in bodybuild but more in olympics ,,even in olympics its not common,,
kyoshi moodi you are a very misguded soul and simply a lost one,,you lie ,,lieing is the worst you can do in a cult where you rely heavily on your supplier ,,remember you are a hand step away from pissing off someone,,they read what you say and they make good money on you and your connection but the stuff come from someone wether in china,,europe ,,wether poweder or actual final product,,there someone who need to make sure you get it and that someone reads your balonie here
you can do whatever you want,,keep on lieing,,
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gh15 approved
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great physique Kiyoshi, I've seen you on stage ( awesome presentation) and off stage! I've noticed The naturals that inspires me, guys like You, Dave-tx shredder, Doug Miller, Faldo, have something incommon! All have 20 plus years under your belts. That's the key, and what most ppl don't consider. I have 6 bb training years behind me, but focused and ready for these up coming years. END GOAL is the reach the level you guy are at! Anyways GodBless stay strong and Much RESPECT!
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great physique Kiyoshi, I've seen you on stage ( awesome presentation) and off stage! I've noticed The naturals that inspires me, guys like You, Dave-tx shredder, Doug Miller, Faldo, have something incommon! All have 20 plus years under your belts. That's the key, and what most ppl don't consider. I have 6 bb training years behind me, but focused and ready for these up coming years. END GOAL is the reach the level you guy are at! Anyways GodBless stay strong and Much RESPECT!
Exactly. Ppl don't realize that a natural trainer can acquire quite a nice physique after 20 years being consistent. I'm at year 19 of training and all natural. People comment about steriods all the time and it is quite annoying bc I know the truth etc. I bet that if this GH15 dude never touched the dark side, and trained hard for 20 years, he'd have a great build too. Then he'd PERSONALLY know that he's wrong to point fingers on here. But he'll never know that bc he's not a naturally training athelete.
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genetic my ass! ,,i been on olympia stage you have not!,,dont teach me how the game go ,,you try to teach the teacher,,you are a liar,,genetic mean nothing when it comes to the size you present and condition you present in that size,,
you need to realize that all bodybuild now day know that ITS ALL IN THE TRENBOLONA POWDER and the testosterona poweder,,every single bodybuildr know this,, as i said before every so call liar natural cna pass test no problem like i past milion tests,,those tests are nothing,,unless it is blood test and its done on a daily basis you cant know and will never know what one uses,,even with blood test there is a way to misgude the test and you know it well,,in general no one test for blood so this worry is not need to be taken in bodybuild but more in olympics ,,even in olympics its not common,,
kyoshi moodi you are a very misguded soul and simply a lost one,,you lie ,,lieing is the worst you can do in a cult where you rely heavily on your supplier ,,remember you are a hand step away from pissing off someone,,they read what you say and they make good money on you and your connection but the stuff come from someone wether in china,,europe ,,wether poweder or actual final product,,there someone who need to make sure you get it and that someone reads your balonie here
you can do whatever you want,,keep on lieing,,
dismissed
gh15 approved
To you sir, again test me, I have taken blood tests, urine test this year hair follicle testing. No one test for blood except the, oooo whats that org called WADA and ASADA in which the PNBA/INBA use. Again put your money where your mouth is and test me again anytime anywhere. Right plain and simple. Publish the results.
Why sit and accuse someone i have nothing to hide and not even offended by your accusations. Your paying me the highest compliment. TEST ME YOU PAY I TEST PLAIN AND SIMPLE
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To you sir, again test me, I have taken blood tests, urine test this year hair follicle testing. No one test for blood except the, oooo whats that org called WADA and ASADA in which the PNBA/INBA use. Again put your money where your mouth is and test me again anytime anywhere. Right plain and simple. Publish the results.
Why sit and accuse someone i have nothing to hide and not even offended by your accusations. Your paying me the highest compliment. TEST ME YOU PAY I TEST PLAIN AND SIMPLE
because the best naturals from indonisia....from check republic....fellas that put you to shame walking around 5'7 150lb competition weight if indonidian,,,6'1 185-190lb competition weight if cheq....6'3 195-200lb if all americano from wisconsin typa fella,, and those are no where near 4% ....try 5-6%
get it in your head already ,,testing you is imposible you trick the system like we do all the time,,we do it with shame...you do it with pride,,but atleast we dont lie about it right and left,,
5'10 5'11 165lb 5-6 % is the weight of an asian fella on stage completely natural ,,those are the numbers my friend,,7lb per inch of height,,the end! thee is no argument against it anyone in the know and im the absolit autority on the subject ...will tell you that is just how it is,,
i trained them all ,,i traine the best,, you are not the best,,I TRAINED WITH ADE FOR VERY LONG TIME BACK IN THE 90S... for i AM the god of hormones ,,,yes yes that ade your roll model,,you know sad thing is that you actualy belivee your lies and will do anything to make a living out of them,,,,id never let you rent a house from me or apt or anythign i woudl charge you 2 k deposit because you are a LIAR,,its nto twisting the truth its just plain out lies,,liars are worst people
gh15 approved
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To you sir, again test me, I have taken blood tests, urine test this year hair follicle testing. No one test for blood except the, oooo whats that org called WADA and ASADA in which the PNBA/INBA use. Again put your money where your mouth is and test me again anytime anywhere. Right plain and simple. Publish the results.
Why sit and accuse someone i have nothing to hide and not even offended by your accusations. Your paying me the highest compliment. TEST ME YOU PAY I TEST PLAIN AND SIMPLE
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because the best naturals from indonisia....from check republic....fellas that put you to shame walking around 5'7 150lb competition weight if indonidian,,,6'1 185-190lb competition weight if cheq....6'3 195-200lb if all americano from wisconsin typa fella,, and those are no where near 4% ....try 5-6%
get it in your head already ,,testing you is imposible you trick the system like we do all the time,,we do it with shame...you do it with pride,,but atleast we dont lie about it right and left,,
5'10 5'11 165lb 5-6 % is the weight of an asian fella on stage completely natural ,,those are the numbers my friend,,7lb per inch of height,,the end! thee is no argument against it anyone in the know and im the absolit autority on the subject ...will tell you that is just how it is,,
i trained them all ,,i traine the best,, you are not the best,,I TRAINED WITH ADE FOR VERY LONG TIME BACK IN THE 90S... for i AM the god of hormones ,,,yes yes that ade your roll model,,you know sad thing is that you actualy belivee your lies and will do anything to make a living out of them,,,,id never let you rent a house from me or apt or anythign i woudl charge you 2 k deposit because you are a LIAR,,its nto twisting the truth its just plain out lies,,liars are worst people
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LMAO, even more so. Again if I trick the system. please tell us how. If you pick the place, you pick the time. cmon man get over it. you never had the genetics even if you did compete on the olympia stage. Ade rai my idol. Who is ade rai? Man cmon. Yes I'm asian only 1/2 to you kind sir.
You are right, the guys in the other countries I cant hang with. I competed in the IFBB WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS I got blown away. Now what? Who cares.
Would I even consider renting from you? For what when I can own a house. Renting from you would be a moron move on my part since you did grace the stage of the olympia, we all know there were super vitamins involved and to get caught up with you would be stupidity on my part.
Taking nothing away from what you have achieved but you sir are the exact opposite on why this sport will never achieve a higher standard. Period
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LMAO, even more so. Again if I trick the system. please tell us how. If you pick the place, you pick the time. cmon man get over it. you never had the genetics even if you did compete on the olympia stage. Ade rai my idol. Who is ade rai? Man cmon. Yes I'm asian only 1/2 to you kind sir.
You are right, the guys in the other countries I cant hang with. I competed in the IFBB WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS I got blown away. Now what? Who cares.
Would I even consider renting from you? For what when I can own a house. Renting from you would be a moron move on my part since you did grace the stage of the olympia, we all know there were super vitamins involved and to get caught up with you would be stupidity on my part.
Taking nothing away from what you have achieved but you sir are the exact opposite on why this sport will never achieve a higher standard. Period
Exactly. Guys that pump juice and have lousy builds LOVE to criticise guys that are naturally well built and work hard. This happens all the time.
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Yo Kiyoshi- how long have you had the Gyno in your left nipple for? Its very clear in the photos you posted on the first page.
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Yo Kiyoshi- how long have you had the Gyno in your left nipple for? Its very clear in the photos you posted on the first page.
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So it's not possible to get gyno any other way besides running steroid cycles? My fat, 14 year old nephew must be on something then. ::)
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So it's not possible to get gyno any other way besides running steroid cycles? My fat, 14 year old nephew must be on something then. ::)
Never said that!! You are putting words in my mouth... Of course there are other ways to get it... It is common in adolescent obese kids, you are 100% correct. I’ve also seen it in alcoholics and cirrhotics and of course- bodybuilders. It is extremely common in very muscular guys with altered hormone levels. This guy will obviously claim not to be taking anabolic steroids till he goes to his grave, but being as muscular as he is, with obvious gyno... don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure out he is doing SOMETHING to mess with his hormone levels.
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Never said that!! You are putting words in my mouth... Of course there are other ways to get it... It is common in adolescent obese kids, you are 100% correct. I’ve also seen it in alcoholics and cirrhotics and of course- bodybuilders. It is extremely common in very muscular guys with altered hormone levels. This guy will obviously claim not to be taking anabolic steroids till he goes to his grave, but being as muscular as he is, with obvious gyno... don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure out he is doing SOMETHING to mess with his hormone levels.
It's obvious you're trying to be a smart ass and be sarcastic.
Just the act of lifting weights is enough to mess with hormones levels genius. Doesn't mean someone is on something. I've been a natty all 19 years of training and i've got a little puffiness. Nothing bad by any means.. but I suspect its from years of lifting. Doesn't mean i'm slamming needles.
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get it in your head already ,,testing you is imposible you trick the system like we do all the time,,we do it with shame...you do it with pride,,but atleast we dont lie about it right and left,,
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GH15......How do you "trick the system" when there are no drug tests being done in the IFBB?
Wasnt there one contest back in the 90's that was tested and like half the guys failed and the other half were much smaller than normal?
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It's obvious you're trying to be a smart ass and be sarcastic.
Just the act of lifting weights is enough to mess with hormones levels genius. Doesn't mean someone is on something. I've been a natty all 19 years of training and i've got a little puffiness. Nothing bad by any means.. but I suspect its from years of lifting. Doesn't mean i'm slamming needles.
It means you're fat. Get down to Kiyoshi's level of conditioning and see if you have that puffiness. ::)
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Yo Kiyoshi- how long have you had the Gyno in your left nipple for? Its very clear in the photos you posted on the first page.
20 years
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It means you're fat. Get down to Kiyoshi's level of conditioning and see if you have that puffiness. ::)
Actually I think you have it backwards. Usually when you're at a higher bf, it's less obvious. It blends in better.
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It's obvious you're trying to be a smart ass and be sarcastic.
Just the act of lifting weights is enough to mess with hormones levels genius. Doesn't mean someone is on something. I've been a natty all 19 years of training and i've got a little puffiness. Nothing bad by any means.. but I suspect its from years of lifting. Doesn't mean i'm slamming needles.
Coltrane- It is obvious that this really is a moot point. You have probably NEVER met Kiyoshi, and realistically have absolutely NO idea what he is or isn't doing every day... You can hang on his nuts all day long and swear that you KNOW that he CAN be NATURAL but the reality is only HE knows what he is truly doing. I see your arguments, for the reverse. Those that THINK he is using steroids like gh15 really have no PROOF other than to say that his physique SCREAMS drugs. There are many many people in this world who have trained for 20 years and compete TRULY naturally and do not look one 1/10 as good as this guy. There are also a lot of other people who have trained for 20 years and JUICE THEIR BALLS OFF and do not look as good as this guy... Does that mean he's using? Maybe. Maybe not. My question is, if you really do think he is clean- what do you think he would look like on 5-10,000mg of steroids and GH and every other drug that IFBB pros use?!
You can think what you want, and so will I... but arguing so passionately about your OPINION makes you really look like a retard.
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First off, let's not make this a name calling thing, ok? You don't need to call me a retard.
You're right, I don't know Kyoshi at all. Never met him or seen him in person for that matter. But this whole attacking him thing really hits home with me. To make a long story short, I have trained naturally for 19 years and am probably more dedicated than about 99% of bodybuilders. I have, what I think, is a great build. I've never touched steroids. BUT, I am continually pointed at as a steroid abuser by people who just assume. I am also an attorney, but no one ever questions my degree because I have proof in the form of diplomas and bar acceptance. As a bodybuilder, I have no proof.
The whole issue is that GH15 doesn't know for a fact that Moody is on. He can speculate, based on his own knowledge, etc. But, in the end, that's all it is is speculation. I think it's wrong to single someone out and call them a cheater for acheiving something they have a very strong passion for. If you think he is on something, then just let it be. Whatever happened to taking a man's word for something and just saying: "Great build.. keep up the hard work!"?
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First off, let's not make this a name calling thing, ok? You don't need to call me a retard.
You're right, I don't know Kyoshi at all. Never met him or seen him in person for that matter. But this whole attacking him thing really hits home with me. To make a long story short, I have trained naturally for 19 years and am probably more dedicated than about 99% of bodybuilders. I have, what I think, is a great build. I've never touched steroids. BUT, I am continually pointed at as a steroid abuser by people who just assume. I am also an attorney, but no one ever questions my degree because I have proof in the form of diplomas and bar acceptance. As a bodybuilder, I have no proof.
The whole issue is that GH15 doesn't know for a fact that Moody is on. He can speculate, based on his own knowledge, etc. But, in the end, that's all it is is speculation. I think it's wrong to single someone out and call them a cheater for acheiving something they have a very strong passion for. If you think he is on something, then just let it be. Whatever happened to taking a man's word for something and just saying: "Great build.. keep up the hard work!"?
For the record- you started with the "smart ass" comment...
I think the issue is that there are few STAND UP HONEST people in the sport of bodybuilding. This doesnt mean Kiyoshi isn't one of them, but play the odds.
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So it's ok to attack the guy without any proof whatsoever?
That, my friend, is bullshit. Show me a fail on a drug test, and i'll tell you otherwise. But this guy is competing naturally and is going on record stating the same. It's bizarre that some would waste time arguing against it, without proof based on fact.
In this regard, I now am stopping the waste of my time too.
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Who said I am attacking the guy? Others may have, but I never attacked him at all.
Do i think he's really clean? Hell no... Could he be? Sure maybe he is that one in a million person who is able to look better off steroids/gh/ insulin/ diuretics than many drug users... stranger things have happened in the world.
The fact is that Kiyoshi has a very classic jaw and face of a GH user, he has clinical signs as acromegaly as well as sausage digit fingers. His degree of muscle density, leanness, dryness are far better than many who DO admit to using every drug in the book. Is it really possible for a drug free natural athlete to achieve superior conditioning over a LOT of guys who have access to EVERY SINGLE DRUG out there? Perhaps- if that is true, then he should use every drug in the book and go on to be one of the greatest bodybuilder of all time and make a few million like Cutler is doing.
He has gyno (Which in a 14 year old fat kid isn't a big issue, but its a little suspicious in a 195lbs 4% bodyfat bodybuilder) he has very small lumps all over his abdomen that many people get from multiple sub q injections... He claims they are "lipomas"... Well, the incidence of lipomas in the population is about 1 in 1,000...(Reference- emedicine.com) Add to this, Shawn Ray, Lee Priest, Flex Wheeler, Phil Heath, Kia Green and many other drug-using pro bodybuilders have the same exact bumps. Do they all have "lipomas" or, is it more likely that they all are pinning themselves?! You decide.
Have i seen him buy drugs, do I know who he buys them from, do i know he uses drugs- We have already established the answer is NO... Nevertheless, in my OPINION everything about this dude screams- DRUG USER. I am fairly certain that a blood test looking at his epitestosterone:testosterone level would show that his levels are sky high and this doesn't happen from eating a lot of food and doing squats bro.
So just because he's never failed a drug test, that is the basis for your belief that he really is clean? Because he swears he is clean? LOL Ok. Ronnie Coleman has never failed a drug test either. Neither has Kevin Levrone...
I am cool with you thinking what you want. I am just showing you that your exact reasons for believing he is clean, aren't as strong as you think. As a lawyer you should see how weak your arguments are.
So it's ok to attack the guy without any proof whatsoever?
That, my friend, is bullshit. Show me a fail on a drug test, and i'll tell you otherwise. But this guy is competing naturally and is going on record stating the same. It's bizarre that some would waste time arguing against it, without proof based on fact.
In this regard, I now am stopping the waste of my time too.
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You most certainly are attacking him. You're attacking the veracity of his statement that he's a naturally competing bodybuilder and implying he is a liar. You also, again, resorted to acting childish and made comment to me re my profession and ability to make a valid argument.
Regardless, think what you want and I will too. I really could care less if he is on or not. Why do you and GH15 waste time trying to toss the guy under the bus anyway? Really, if he is indeed lying, who really gives a shit? None of us know him.
That's all this time. Really. I'm wasting my time here.
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You most certainly are attacking him. You're attacking the veracity of his statement that he's a naturally competing bodybuilder and implying he is a liar. You also, again, resorted to acting childish and made comment to me re my profession and ability to make a valid argument.
Regardless, think what you want and I will too. I really could care less if he is on or not. Why do you and GH15 waste time trying to toss the guy under the bus anyway? Really, if he is indeed lying, who really gives a shit? None of us know him.
That's all this time. Really. I'm wasting my time here.
Coltrane- Do you love Kiyoshi? You defend him with SUCH passion blindly... It really warms my heart lol
I see you have no reply to my statements in regard to my clinical diagnosis... I am a physician and much of medicine is clinical diagnosis. There isn't always a lab test, or fancy imaging modality to diagnosis a condition. I've given you 4-5 reasons why I think he is lying, and yet you still argue that because the man says he is telling the truth, he is?
He isnt the first "natural" athlete or professional athlete to lie to the public, do you admit to that? Do you also admit to the fact that there ARE ways to beat drug tests? If not, please read up on VICTOR CONTE and BALCOLABS for more information. I never judged him for being dishonest (in my opinion) he has his own reasons for saying what he is saying... do I personally think he is telling the truth- NOPE. Am i attacking him for it- NO.
There is a big difference between not believing what someone tells you, and "attacking" them.
You must read contracts all day long, it is MY OPINION that you would get SLAUGHTERED in the courtroom. Have a nice day
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Nice meltdown, "Doc". Again, you resort to attacking, again.
You, as a professed physician, should be first to state that you shouldn't make diagnosis without first having met the client and checked him over. That is Med-School 101. No wonder my doctor doesn't just write me out a script when I call him complaining of a sore throat. He wants to look me over and run tests first, before jumping to conclusion re what i've said over the phone.
Listen, enough arguing on this. I don't have any love for Moody per se. This whole issue just strikes a nerve with me. Read my prior post for why.
How would you feel if you had accusers telling you and everyone else that YOU cheated on your medical boards/licensing, etc., because you're a great physician with many clients? All without concrete factual proof that you cheated! You'd be pissed, correct? And not so much cause of the doubt of your veracity, but for the fact that you worked your ass off for it. Just sit back and think about it.
Anyway, i'm done debating this pointless thread.
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Relax a little bro... you are really letting this discussion upset you lol
Why would I get upset at people accusing me of something that isn't true? I mean really. If Kiyoshi really is clean, then all of this should be compliments and he should have gotten VERY used to people doubting him by now.
How you are able to extrapolate what we say to him and apply it to your own personal "story" really is mind-boggling. Does it REALLY REALLY bother you that people think you use steroids? If so, WHY? You know the truth, you know people have a hard time believing that someone can be dedicated and committed and do things naturally... However, in the case of Kiyoshi, i have stated where my opinion comes from. It isn't just a blind "attack" cause "it looks too good to be true"... He has a few signs (at least in the photos i have seen of him) that really are classicly found in people who use bodybuilding drugs.
I gained around 50lbs of muscle in the first few years of training and also grow 3-4 inches. I started lifting weights right when i hit my growth spurt as a teenager. I've heard all the accusations of me using drugs and whatnot and they have always made me feel GOOD. Clearly i did something and am doing something right if people could look at me and think i am "cheating"... My friends still try and knock me and call me Barry Bonds etc and i think its funny. I'm comfortable in my own skin, it seems to me like you aren't yet.
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Nice meltdown, "Doc". Again, you resort to attacking, again.
You, as a professed physician, should be first to state that you shouldn't make diagnosis without first having met the client and checked him over. That is Med-School 101. No wonder my doctor doesn't just write me out a script when I call him complaining of a sore throat. He wants to look me over and run tests first, before jumping to conclusion re what i've said over the phone.
Listen, enough arguing on this. I don't have any love for Moody per se. This whole issue just strikes a nerve with me. Read my prior post for why.
How would you feel if you had accusers telling you and everyone else that YOU cheated on your medical boards/licensing, etc., because you're a great physician with many clients? All without concrete factual proof that you cheated! You'd be pissed, correct? And not so much cause of the doubt of your veracity, but for the fact that you worked your ass off for it. Just sit back and think about it.
Anyway, i'm done debating this pointless thread.
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In the end we are back to square one. I admit that I have no objective proof to say I know for 100% fact he is using drugs... and i am basing my opinion off of the subjective things I have mentioned. And you have no real substantial argument to say he IS CLEAN other than to say he is "innocent until proven guilty"... I get it.
So we can agree to disagree.
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I'll be by later to clean up this thread.
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Kyoshi.
If you are truly natural then why defend yourself so adamantly to people who you dont know nor will ever actually meet in real life.
As if their opinion really matters.
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Fuck it, you guys didn't meldown into the name calling, racial slur slinging abuse that Alexander D is know for, so I'm not cleaning anything up.
Unless Kiyoshi wants me to remove this little "spat".
Here's the bottom line..........you can choose to believe the guy or not, it's your choice, but if you want to argue about it, do it somewhere else, not on The Positive Board. :)
flex......if someone were to accuse you of juicing........how would you react? A little defense.....or would you lay out all the tests you had passed to provide proof?
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you are a liar,,im god of hormones and im tellin you you are a liar,,why do you lie? because you make a living of it,,you need the lie to survive like skip and to a lesser degree like nortom,,but never the less you lie like faildo ,,you know when you say 195 on stage and you balonie those kids to actualy believe 195 is nothing ,,in the condition you PRESENT IT IS A LOT OF SOMETHING,,there was never the natural who ever steped on stage sub8% 195 and height of 5'10 7lb per inch ,,the best natural to ever walk on earth which i trained and i wont name his name walked on stage 7% 192lb 5'11 and a half ,, and he was THE BST NATURAL I AHVE EVER TRAINED OR TRAINED WITH,,and i trained them all,,
you got to remember mr frank zane was mr o 185 your condition ,,,he could see it better and skin was better because he used less hormones than you ....but never the less he USED HORMONES AND HE WASS 185! mr o!! so you come here and put again weight like it matter,, size is size ,,weight is weight,,you know very well what god of hormones talking about,,195lb fella can wipe the floor with 250lb fella if the 195 lb is mainly muscle and down to 6% while the 250lb is bloofy and 15% ,,wipe the floor with the 250 fella ,,so the example you gve is not good and is misleading,,
i rarely interfer with this balonie but this is just not right what you are doing,,
most hormonizer fellas that walk on staeg 195 SWIMMMM in hormones,,they just dont abuse gh and insulin thats why not 240,,who are you tellin balonie here inorder to make few bucks,,dont you understand that the members here are actual bodybuild and many are co competitors of yours under gimick acounts? dont you understand that the condition you present can not come unless trenbolona is used on a regular basis ,,dont you understant that the t hickness you present when 195 on stage can only come if testosterona was in system to create this thickness along with the trenbolona? dont you understand those things??
you need to take a good look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself ,,why do i lie and what do i achieve by lieing,,because one day your kid will grow up...and that kid will know the truth because he will see his genetic only gets him to 180 10% and you will have to look in this kids face,,and face the truth ,,im sure you will lie to the kid too but ask yourself why you do this,,what does it give you ,,there is not much money in natural bodybuild to become rich,, if you were sucesful model like sagi i would say ok maybe,,but even sagi is very honest when he talk to other bodybuildrs,,big diff between fan boys and otheeer bodbybuilders,,
this is realy sad the need of you to lie just because you cant get to 230 on stage ,,,230 will have to be all out usage of hgh and insulina....you only want the 200 zone so you can go on and make a living out of natural bodybuild which does nto exsist,,
sad
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Fuck it, you guys didn't meldown into the name calling, racial slur slinging abuse that Alexander D is know for, so I'm not cleaning anything up.
Unless Kiyoshi wants me to remove this little "spat".
Here's the bottom line..........you can choose to believe the guy or not, it's your choice, but if you want to argue about it, do it somewhere else, not on The Positive Board. :)
flex......if someone were to accuse you of juicing........how would you react? A little defense.....or would you lay out all the tests you had passed to provide proof?
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If it was some faceless soul on this board.
Honestly, I wouldnt even care enough to respond.
Im past that point on here.
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http://naturalbodybuildingradio.com/2011/07/28/mr-natural-olympia-champion-kiyoshi-moody-returns/
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Who said I am attacking the guy? Others may have, but I never attacked him at all.
Do i think he's really clean? Hell no... Could he be? Sure maybe he is that one in a million person who is able to look better off steroids/gh/ insulin/ diuretics than many drug users... stranger things have happened in the world.
The fact is that Kiyoshi has a very classic jaw and face of a GH user, he has clinical signs as acromegaly as well as sausage digit fingers. His degree of muscle density, leanness, dryness are far better than many who DO admit to using every drug in the book. Is it really possible for a drug free natural athlete to achieve superior conditioning over a LOT of guys who have access to EVERY SINGLE DRUG out there? Perhaps- if that is true, then he should use every drug in the book and go on to be one of the greatest bodybuilder of all time and make a few million like Cutler is doing.
He has gyno (Which in a 14 year old fat kid isn't a big issue, but its a little suspicious in a 195lbs 4% bodyfat bodybuilder) he has very small lumps all over his abdomen that many people get from multiple sub q injections... He claims they are "lipomas"... Well, the incidence of lipomas in the population is about 1 in 1,000...(Reference- emedicine.com) Add to this, Shawn Ray, Lee Priest, Flex Wheeler, Phil Heath, Kia Green and many other drug-using pro bodybuilders have the same exact bumps. Do they all have "lipomas" or, is it more likely that they all are pinning themselves?! You decide.
Have i seen him buy drugs, do I know who he buys them from, do i know he uses drugs- We have already established the answer is NO... Nevertheless, in my OPINION everything about this dude screams- DRUG USER. I am fairly certain that a blood test looking at his epitestosterone:testosterone level would show that his levels are sky high and this doesn't happen from eating a lot of food and doing squats bro.
So just because he's never failed a drug test, that is the basis for your belief that he really is clean? Because he swears he is clean? LOL Ok. Ronnie Coleman has never failed a drug test either. Neither has Kevin Levrone...
I am cool with you thinking what you want. I am just showing you that your exact reasons for believing he is clean, aren't as strong as you think. As a lawyer you should see how weak your arguments are.
"coltrane" is so passionate in his defense of moody because he too is a hormonized liar, and can therefore empathize with him to a high degree. how else could someone take such a brutal owning as is presented in this post, and come back for more? like you said, if he really is a lawyer i can't even imagine the degree of emotional distress he must feel upon seeing kiyoshi so "slandered" in order to continue posting such laughable "retorts."
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"coltrane" is so passionate in his defense of moody because he too is a hormonized liar, and can therefore empathize with him to a high degree. how else could someone take such a brutal owning as is presented in this post, and come back for more? like you said, if he really is a lawyer i can't even imagine the degree of emotional distress he must feel upon seeing kiyoshi so "slandered" in order to continue posting such laughable "retorts."
Trolling at it's finest.
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kiyoshi
how many years training and eating like you outlined did it take you to get your build?