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Title: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 09, 2017, 03:28:55 PM
alright this is gonna be the thread

ill post the starting pics in a day or 2 and start the 6 weeks once i have the deca which should be this week
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 09, 2017, 03:49:49 PM
good luck
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Disgusted on October 09, 2017, 04:27:46 PM
👍🏻
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 10, 2017, 01:51:21 AM
heres 4 starter pics

weight is 69 kg which is a buck 52

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 10, 2017, 02:37:56 AM
i'll have the deca on thursday so ill most likely frontload with 1.2-2 grams of it

then ill start it at 600 per week or maybe a grand

still not sure, gotta do more researches
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: falco on October 10, 2017, 07:37:31 AM
You are not going to gain 25lbs in 6 weeks my friend. Sorry to tell you.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 10, 2017, 07:53:09 AM
You are not going to gain 25lbs in 6 weeks my friend. Sorry to tell you.

time will tell

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2017, 10:12:19 AM
thread will last a week then he will be on a cut again...
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 10, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
thread will last a week then he will be on a cut again...

nah

I love DECA it makes me look like a marvel superhero

wasted cash on winny, but now that DECA is near all is good 8)
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Disgusted on October 10, 2017, 11:53:47 AM
Front loading not necessary . Do 200 to 250 mgs EOD. This will keep your blood levels from dropping down till your next shot. Are you running anything else?   Also, post your diet!!
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 10, 2017, 12:16:00 PM
Front loading not necessary . Do 200 to 250 mgs EOD. This will keep your blood levels from dropping down till your next shot. Are you running anything else?   Also, post your diet!!

really eod?

its slow ass acting decanate with a half life of 15 days, but i can give it a go at eod

200 eod would be 700 per week and 250 eod would be 875 per week, right?

i got test e and i'll run it somewhere btw 125-200 per week, but 200 is max

test sucks dead donkey dicks imho but i guess i gotta run it at trt levels minimum

i also got another 100 tabs of winny @ 10 mg per tab like a dimb fuck so i guess ill just blaat that shit @ 100 a day til i run out of it

Ive discovered that i basically only respond to nor-19s but i dont wanna run tren yet

today i had this, and it will pretty much be my diet with a few different meals from time to time

breakkie: 2 tablespoons of pro powder and coffee with cream and sugar

lunch: a can of tuna in water mixed with vanilla yougurt

snack: chicken breast and more vanilla yougurt

din-din: half a jar of peanut butter and vanilla ice cream with some chocolate sause

training is basically constant tension reps and interrupted sets (per what doc Blakely taught me) and some breakdowns

did legs today which was Blakelys interuppted sets, which is 5 reps, hold near lockout for a count of 10 and then 5 reps again and 10 count hold, repeat 4 times for a total of 20 reps did 4 light sets of it and then 1 series to near failure and on last series did 5, 5, then 3 til failure and force repped 2 extra and that was it

if i compete i will do mens bikini so there is really no sense in building my legs up much as the board shorts will keep em at bay 😂

elbows hurt especailly left one and winny aint helping them any i guess, but ive had the elbow pain now for a good 6 weeks or so, got it from heavy bag work and med ball punches using a 44 pound ball single handedly

Hard punch baby!!!!

started the winny 10 days ago ( so elbow pain was way before it) and started winny @ 20 mg first 2 days then went to 30 mg for next 4 days and then at 40 mg the last 4 days, and today i took 100 mg of it
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 10, 2017, 11:32:26 PM
so shoild i run the deca eod dim?

its deca not npp
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 11, 2017, 01:08:41 AM
i see that Kev only ran 400 mg deca

 KL: It was a simple progression. My very first cycle was just test cyp, one shot a week. I am guessing I was doing 400 milligrams per week. After I won my state show and decided I wanted to turn pro, which I did the following year, I bumped things up a bit. I took the test up to 600 milligrams a week, and added in 400 milligrams of Deca and two Anadrols a day, which is 100 milligrams per day or 700 milligrams per week.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 11, 2017, 01:10:00 AM
and yates 500 mg

typically also did three eight-week cycles in the off-season, and those would be made up of basics like Deca and D-bol. I would do four weeks at peak dosage, then taper down over the next four weeks before taking four weeks off and repeating. Here is the typical four-week peak off-season cycle:

WEEKLY
testosterone – 750 milligrams
Deca – 500 milligrams
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 11, 2017, 01:11:00 AM
and mentzer only ran 200 mg every 10-14 days  :D :D :D
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: falco on October 11, 2017, 03:45:30 AM
A ectomorph like you will only put on weight if you force feed yourself, for months and months. Also consistency in training, high intensity, low volume. Plenty of sleep.
A guy with your genetic profile should not set his goals and efforts in "weeks" but in more like "years".
 
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 11, 2017, 06:58:26 AM
i went from 146 to 190 in 10 weeks time under the tutaledge of doc Blakely and this was before i ever used gear

in this pic im sitting @ a buck 82 so it was at about the 8th week mark i believe
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 11, 2017, 08:43:52 AM
the Blakely diet is explained here from the 5 til the 10 minute mark

thing is it doesnt apply to me so much coz i will put on 25 quality pounds not 25 bloofy water logged pounds

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 11, 2017, 12:13:08 PM
so excited to get the deca tomorrow 😝

i only respond to nor-19's and according to some souces deca is the most healthy steroid of them all  ;D

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 11, 2017, 02:48:50 PM
and another q for dim, thats if i havent scared him off 😂

should i inject 100 mg of test e every 6 days or split that up to eod as well, or could i even inject 200 mg every 12 days?

i decided to stick with roughly 100 mg per week (trt dose)
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Disgusted on October 11, 2017, 07:49:23 PM
and another q for dim, thats if i havent scared him off 😂

should i inject 100 mg of test e every 6 days or split that up to eod as well, or could i even inject 200 mg every 12 days?

i decided to stick with roughly 100 mg per week (trt dose)


Yes EOD on the deca even though it is long acting. I wish I still had the ester chart for blood levels it showed you how much the esters trailed off in the blood stream after a week. You could plug in any injection schedule and it would show you on a graph your blood levels. Anyway I would do this especially since you want to gain as fast as possible. I would also do the test at 25mg eod sub Q. Again this will keep things levels.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 11, 2017, 10:43:05 PM

Yes EOD on the deca even though it is long acting. I wish I still had the ester chart for blood levels it showed you how much the esters trailed off in the blood stream after a week. You could plug in any injection schedule and it would show you on a graph your blood levels. Anyway I would do this especially since you want to gain as fast as possible. I would also do the test at 25mg eod sub Q. Again this will keep things levels.

thanks dude

your a clean diet kinda guy i believe

with the doc Blakely diet you just pound down the cals and gain mostly fat and fat and a bit of lean dry tissue

well, i aint so keen on that

ill eat fairly clean but quite dirty as well, something like this... 70% clean 30% dirty
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 12, 2017, 12:26:27 AM
gotta wait til Saturday

shit, goddamn, guy  >:(
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Disgusted on October 12, 2017, 11:40:35 AM
thanks dude

your a clean diet kinda guy i believe

with the doc Blakely diet you just pound down the cals and gain mostly fat and fat and a bit of lean dry tissue

well, i aint so keen on that

ill eat fairly clean but quite dirty as well, something like this... 70% clean 30% dirty



You should post your diet for us to see.  :)
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 12, 2017, 11:59:49 AM

You should post your diet for us to see.  :)

my diet is not really structered, today i had this

1. 2 tablespoons pro powder and coffee with cream and sugar

2. 6 slices of white cheese with nutella spread on them

3. can of tuna with tabasco sause and peanut butter with nutella chocolate mixed in

4. 1 chicken breast with hot mustard sause and again the cheese with nutella spread

up to 100 mg of winny and it aint doing goddamn shit for me except making me lathergic  :( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 12, 2017, 01:15:34 PM
keep reading on other forums how these toads who run deca complain about becoming bloated turds on it, well not me 😎

feels good to have such great genetics and even today one of my buds who saw these pics of me on deca said... "you have great genetics" and then when i told him that i ate either mcdonalds or pizza every single day he said "wow!" and didnt believe me 😜
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 12, 2017, 03:44:14 PM
found dis fella on misfit

looks damn good

PROPS
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 12, 2017, 09:26:46 PM
my diet is not really structered, today i had this

1. 2 tablespoons pro powder and coffee with cream and sugar

2. 6 slices of white cheese with nutella spread on them

3. can of tuna with tabasco sause and peanut butter with nutella chocolate mixed in

4. 1 chicken breast with hot mustard sause and again the cheese with nutella spread

up to 100 mg of winny and it aint doing goddamn shit for me except making me lathergic  :( >:( >:( >:(

That diet is atrocious dj, you can do better than that
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 12, 2017, 10:54:15 PM
That diet is atrocious dj, you can do better than that

how exactly?

got some "heathly/clean" food in there with the can of tuna in water amd the boneless/skinless chicken breast
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 13, 2017, 04:08:29 AM
so what are you diet guidelines?

6 meals a day each meal with some pro/carb/fat?

if you can write me up a meal plan with just 3 or 4 meals per day, with one of those meals coming from mcdonalds or pizza slut each day then i will follow it

oh, and i did indeed look like this eating a pizza slut or mcds meal every single day FACT




You should post your diet for us to see.  :)
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 13, 2017, 04:42:34 AM
just weighed in and up 1.5 pounds in 9 days
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Disgusted on October 13, 2017, 02:47:10 PM
Hold on, on the road.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on October 13, 2017, 03:39:34 PM
just weighed in and up 1.5 pounds in 9 days

I can vary 8lbs in a day FFS.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 13, 2017, 06:13:34 PM
Hold on, on the road.

pretty good tune actually



so how would you rate the 3 factors?

heres ny experience

1. gear 65%
2. training 30%
3. diet 5%

as a natty

1. training 85%
2. diet 15%
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Primemuscle on October 13, 2017, 06:29:59 PM
i went from 146 to 190 in 10 weeks time under the tutaledge of doc Blakely and this was before i ever used gear

in this pic im sitting @ a buck 82 so it was at about the 8th week mark i believe

-Not a good look for you.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 13, 2017, 06:34:04 PM
-Not a good look for you.

yep,, went most all to my belly

but... according to doc Blakely you.must.... Bathe the cell in nutrients

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 13, 2017, 07:42:53 PM
yep,, went most all to my belly

but... according to doc Blakely you.must.... Bathe the cell in nutrients



yeah but did you actually follow his "diet" 100% or did you cut corners?

Looking at your current anorexic diet I cannot picture you eating that much ie 4 mcdonalds breakfast sandwiches plus hash browns all soaked in mayo, 45 minutes straight at a chinese buffet, followed by and extra large pizza with everything on it plus half a bottle of olive oil.

No way you followed that dude
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 13, 2017, 07:53:31 PM
yeah but did you actually follow his "diet" 100% or did you cut corners?

Looking at your current anorexic diet I cannot picture you eating that much ie 4 mcdonalds breakfast sandwiches plus hash browns all soaked in mayo, 45 minutes straight at a chinese buffet, followed by and extra large pizza with everything on it plus half a bottle of olive oil.

No way you followed that dude


that diet was for slave tate who weighted bout 260 whdn he started it

my diet was eat all i can which cams out to 5 grand cals i shit you not

went from 146 to 190

you dont think an obsessive athlete lke me could do crazy shit lol

us ocd athletes do whatever it fuckong takes

for example, L Bird shoot hoops til his fucking hands would bleed

overeating only makes you fat

the most deca i ever ran was 600 per week and if this deca is dosed at 250 per ml then i will be running 875 per week
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Primemuscle on October 13, 2017, 11:50:20 PM
yep,, went most all to my belly

but... according to doc Blakely you.must.... Bathe the cell in nutrients



I had the belly thing going on when I was in my late 20's and did a course of D-bol. It felt good to finally have some size, even if it was partly fat.  ;D
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 14, 2017, 06:44:59 AM
got the stuff ans just injected a gram of deca  8)

ill inject another 500 on weds

and then 500 two more times next week on sat and weds and then after settle on 750 every sat

according to gayson blahahahhahhahhha after 3 weeks there is no need to inject it more often than once a week

also if i can 20-25 pounds by then i will probably go down to 500 a week

prerfect weight for male body beautiful in my case is a buck 75-80
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 14, 2017, 06:47:54 AM
I see from my pics that i look prettier rounder and fuller than ripped and dry so... round and full is where i will go and where i will stay

1st pic is more beautiful than 2nd 😎
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 14, 2017, 05:59:18 PM

that diet was for slave tate who weighted bout 260 whdn he started it

my diet was eat all i can which cams out to 5 grand cals i shit you not

went from 146 to 190

you dont think an obsessive athlete lke me could do crazy shit lol

us ocd athletes do whatever it fuckong takes

for example, L Bird shoot hoops til his fucking hands would bleed

overeating only makes you fat

the most deca i ever ran was 600 per week and if this deca is dosed at 250 per ml then i will be running 875 per week

you just answered my question with the bolded

I think you should follow whatever disgusted suggests to you diet wise, guys knows more than you , me or most for that matter
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 14, 2017, 10:50:36 PM
you just answered my question with the bolded

I think you should follow whatever disgusted suggests to you diet wise, guys knows more than you , me or most for that matter

still waiting on his diet suggestions

just finished my breakkie which was white cheese dipped in honey and coffee with cream and sugar
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 15, 2017, 07:51:03 AM
pretty good tune actually



so how would you rate the 3 factors?

heres ny experience

1. gear 65%
2. training 30%
3. diet 5%

as a natty

1. training 85%
2. diet 15%

just changed my mind about the percentages, its more like this...

1. Gear 85%
2. Training 10%
3. Food 5%

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on October 15, 2017, 12:34:31 PM
just changed my mind about the percentages, its more like this...

1. Gear 85%
2. Training 10%
3. Food 5%



dont forget to update us if you change your mind again...
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 15, 2017, 01:23:55 PM
dont forget to update us if you change your mind again...

so what percent influnence would you give each of the 3 factors, smartass?

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on October 15, 2017, 02:19:18 PM
so what percent influnence would you give each of the 3 factors, smartass?


training 98%
gear 1%
food 1%


Without training fuck all will happen.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 15, 2017, 02:40:33 PM
training 98%
gear 1%
food 1%


Without training fuck all will happen.


I agree 100% plus for most of us gear will only improve training and eating results a bit, but will never turn us into people who are stage ready so to speak.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 15, 2017, 02:53:46 PM
training 98%
gear 1%
food 1%


Without training fuck all will happen.


i train like a dweeb while on and if i take the right compounds (ie. in my case deca or tren) i make outstanding progress

training is just about stimualting and working the muscle to get it to respond but you dont even have to work very hard (again if the right compounds)

i trained much harder on test and looked worse than when i took deca and trained half ass
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 16, 2017, 12:55:18 AM
up another 3 pounds since sat

FUCK YEAH 😎
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on October 16, 2017, 01:50:37 AM
I agree 100% plus for most of us gear will only improve training and eating results a bit, but will never turn us into people who are stage ready so to speak.
the point Im making to dillweed181 is that you can eat all the chicken and fish you like and take all the drugs you like, but if you dont go to the gym nothing will happen as far as muscle gain.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 16, 2017, 04:03:58 AM
the point Im making to dillweed181 is that you can eat all the chicken and fish you like and take all the drugs you like, but if you dont go to the gym nothing will happen as far as muscle gain.

machine curl went from 120 for 5 til failure 2 days ago to 160 for 4 til fialure today

GAINED,40 POUNDS ON MY CURLS IN 2 FUCKING DAYS

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!


where you at...... DIM?!/!??!?!/??!!!
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 16, 2017, 09:01:49 AM
leg press jumped from 190 for 4 til failure to 235 for 6 til failure

Fuck YYYYYYEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHH HHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on October 16, 2017, 10:09:45 AM
leg press jumped from 190 for 4 til failure to 235 for 6 til failure

Fuck YYYYYYEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHH HHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
who lifted the machine off you?
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 16, 2017, 10:51:39 AM
who lifted the machine off you?

 ;D

honestly i gotta be very careful here as i don't want to make my legs too big

I HATE THIS LOOK WITH A STRONG STRONG PASSION >:( >:( >:(

the BODY BEAUTIFUL which i am in the process of creating has grogeous lines with...

1. ultra narrow hips and waist (THIS IS THE FOCAL POINT AND IT MMMMMUUUUUUUSSSSSSTTTTTT BE THERE)

2. wide shoulders set straight across, no sloped down shoulders like blowforshit or analballslicker

3. long legs and medium length torso

4. tiny joints

5. legs developed but not too big

p.s. I HAVE ALL THOSE STRUCTURAL BEAUTY POINTS  ;) narrow waist and hips, broad straight across shoulders, long legs med torso, tiny tinyass joints 8) 8) 8) 8)

now all i have to do is put the muscle in the right places
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on October 16, 2017, 11:00:35 AM
;D

honestly i gotta be very careful here as i don't want to make my legs too big

I HATE THIS LOOK WITH A STRONG STRONG PASSION >:( >:( >:(

the BODY BEAUTIFUL which i am in the process of creating has grogeous lines with...

1. ultra narrow hips and waist (THIS IS THE FOCAL POINT AND IT MMMMMUUUUUUUSSSSSSTTTTTT BE THERE)

2. wide shoulders set straight across, no sloped down shoulders like blowforshit or analballslicker

3. long legs and medium length torso

4. tiny joints

5. legs developed but not too big

p.s. I HAVE ALL THOSE STRUCTURAL BEAUTY POINTS  ;) narrow waist and hips, broad straight across shoulders, long legs med torso, tiny tinyass joints 8) 8) 8) 8)

now all i have to do is put the muscle in the right places

the point I was making is that you didnt go to failure, and the reason your curl is up 40lbs is that you weren't trying hard enough last week.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 16, 2017, 11:07:08 AM
the point I was making is that you didnt go to failure, and the reason your curl is up 40lbs is that you weren't trying hard enough last week.

i can feel the deca working

my preworkouts suck ass now as they don't work as ive adapted to them and even my music was suckass cos my one phone which has best music connection to youtube is fucked so i use my other phone for music but it's connection is weak and i cant get such a high rage from the music as i could before

so... shit music and shit preworkout dont do fuck for me and it's worse, but... the DECA is kicking in so fucking hard and strong all that shit don't matter

tomorrow is tris and i guarfuckingtee they shoot up in weight as well

posted on 15's site asking for feedback and i bet some of them try to scam me to buy some of thier products, ie. gh, igf etc  ;D

but there are some good dudes there so hopefully i get some wise advices

my boy dim seemed to jump ship with his diet advices  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 16, 2017, 03:01:15 PM
i can feel the deca working

my preworkouts suck ass now as they don't work as ive adapted to them and even my music was suckass cos my one phone which has best music connection to youtube is fucked so i use my other phone for music but it's connection is weak and i cant get such a high rage from the music as i could before

so... shit music and shit preworkout dont do fuck for me and it's worse, but... the DECA is kicking in so fucking hard and strong all that shit don't matter

tomorrow is tris and i guarfuckingtee they shoot up in weight as well

posted on 15's site asking for feedback and i bet some of them try to scam me to buy some of thier products, ie. gh, igf etc  ;D

but there are some good dudes there so hopefully i get some wise advices

my boy dim seemed to jump ship with his diet advices  :'( :'( :'(

why are you focusing on the weight on the bar?

Be There uses fuck all in weights on movements but feels the movement/wprls the muscle and has a championship physique in his fifities.

with your structure you should focus on training similar to what he does, your physique and joints will thank you, especially since you are in your forties

you need to get away frpom that heavy duty arthur jones lazy bullshit and train like a body builder, not a hoister turning purple trying to cheat curl on a machine.

not insulting you just making a suggestion

disgusted probably gave up because you dont listen and think you know everything which you obviously dont if you are taking gear advice from that ugly no muscle retard blaha
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 16, 2017, 03:16:58 PM
^^^ i believe that you need to have a base level of strength then you can focus on details

AJ himself said you can get all of the muscle building benifits without using more than 400 pounds on squats and deads and in most cases even 300 will be enough

but i dont even do squats and deads lol

i asked for feedback on 15s board about deca doseage

they got a thread on deca with 93 pages and im reading it now

seems like up to 2 grams is good and one guy says the magic happens at the 1.5 gram mark

btw i posted very good pictoral evidence of bob weatherhill losing hia gorgeous lines after he upped the dose, did you see that pic?

he was ripped and dry with a thick ugly belly and arms pecs lats etc weremt much bigger

SO..... FUCK DAT NOISE

each individual must find thier own perfect beauty weight and not go past it and get ugly like bob did and so dod francis benfetto 😢

Zane also lost aesthic beauty when he hit 2 bills 😣
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 17, 2017, 11:05:41 AM
^^^ i believe that you need to have a base level of strength then you can focus on details

AJ himself said you can get all of the muscle building benifits without using more than 400 pounds on squats and deads and in most cases even 300 will be enough

but i dont even do squats and deads lol

i asked for feedback on 15s board about deca doseage

they got a thread on deca with 93 pages and im reading it now

seems like up to 2 grams is good and one guy says the magic happens at the 1.5 gram mark

btw i posted very good pictoral evidence of bob weatherhill losing hia gorgeous lines after he upped the dose, did you see that pic?

he was ripped and dry with a thick ugly belly and arms pecs lats etc weremt much bigger

SO..... FUCK DAT NOISE

each individual must find thier own perfect beauty weight and not go past it and get ugly like bob did and so dod francis benfetto 😢

Zane also lost aesthic beauty when he hit 2 bills 😣

what you believe does not work for you, wake the fuck up ad do the opposite for a change, nobody in the gym cares what you can curl
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 17, 2017, 12:01:45 PM
nobody in the gym cares what you can curl

thats pretty much true lol

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 17, 2017, 12:49:58 PM
thats pretty much true lol



arnold staed that he could curl the 100lbs dumbells with cheating form but got better results using 65lb and under dumbells

he had some pretty good arms and his gear was real too
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 18, 2017, 08:07:59 AM
been shitting often like 3 or 4 times a day since starting the deca, but not really eating much more  ???

normally i shit just once a day
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 20, 2017, 03:32:07 AM
been training like a pussy but still making gains
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 20, 2017, 07:58:29 AM
ok,,just finished out the 1st week and i ended up frontloading 2 grams of deca and 125 test

from now on it will look like this

800,deca

125 test
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 21, 2017, 11:13:20 AM
@ 7 days in
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 21, 2017, 12:25:48 PM
keep going.

despite my slagging of you, I really do want you succeed homo
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 21, 2017, 12:28:55 PM
keep going.

despite my slagging of you, I really do want you succeed homo

I will

you notice how my left forearm is placed in front of.my lower ab, that wasnt really on purpose but it was the best place for it to be lol
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 21, 2017, 01:09:15 PM
hey dim, if you are still obsering here guess what?

7 pounds in 7 days baby

SEVEN POUNDS FOR SEVEN DAYS

fuck yeah
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Disgusted on October 22, 2017, 01:53:57 PM
hey dim, if you are still obsering here guess what?

7 pounds in 7 days baby

SEVEN POUNDS FOR SEVEN DAYS

fuck yeah


Good job so what weight did you start at? Do you have before pics?
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 22, 2017, 01:59:05 PM

Good job so what weight did you start at? Do you have before pics?

before pics are at the start of thread

now i weigh 159 so i started at 152
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on October 22, 2017, 02:30:07 PM
hey dim, if you are still obsering here guess what?

7 pounds in 7 days baby

SEVEN POUNDS FOR SEVEN DAYS

fuck yeah

drink three pints of water and weigh yourself again, that will be a ten pound gain...
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 22, 2017, 03:21:58 PM
before pics are at the start of thread

now i weigh 159 so i started at 152

what is your workouts like, split, etc?
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 22, 2017, 08:11:39 PM
what is your workouts like, split, etc?

got a 3 day pass to a diff gym and today i trained 3 times, yesterday it was twice

I usually train eveyday twice a day and train each muscle every 48 hours

Im bored to tears coz i have no work except twice a week or sometimes 3 days a week, and basically no friends

honestly it isnt so nice being a narcissit but like the eagles sang long ago... "and its so hard to change" from Take it to the limit

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 22, 2017, 08:13:21 PM
drink three pints of water and weigh yourself again, that will be a ten pound gain...

and....

each arm is over a half inch bigger now, that it gainz cheif

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Disgusted on October 22, 2017, 09:33:26 PM
I suggest you take all your photos with out your shirt on like in the first pic parsh homo so we can see where your gains are going.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 22, 2017, 09:47:13 PM
I suggest you take all your photos with out your shirt on like in the first pic parsh homo so we can see where your gains are going.

alright, no problem

would you also like to see my muscle bubble ass in my bike shorts?

i posted this pic on a meeting site and i got more views from females after that and some dudes checked it out also  :D
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on October 23, 2017, 01:16:03 AM
and....

each arm is over a half inch bigger now, that it gainz cheif


its water retention..
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 23, 2017, 01:59:17 AM
its water retention..

could be, but i aint worried bout it

coz i loaded 2 grams of deca last week, now ill stabilize it out @ 800 per week

i will essily hit 25 pounds in 6 and it will be quality weight
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on October 23, 2017, 03:41:49 AM
it will be water weight...
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 23, 2017, 03:46:07 AM
it will be water weight...

wanna bet?  ;)

unless you are trolling as usual with this shit

ie. you;re saying "it will be water"

muscle is composed of over 80% water

trollface
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 23, 2017, 05:19:15 AM
it will be water weight...

anyways im running oral winny at 80-120 mg a day

isnt it supposed to make you dry  ???
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on October 23, 2017, 12:13:46 PM
Look, its hard to even gain 8-10lbs of lean tissue in a year, all you are going to get in 6 weeks is added water weight and glycogen retention from the gear, 4 weeks after you come off you will be exactly the same as you are now, muscle tissue simply doesnt grow that quickly.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 23, 2017, 12:31:04 PM
Look, its hard to even gain 8-10lbs of lean tissue in a year, all you are going to get in 6 weeks is added water weight and glycogen retention from the gear, 4 weeks after you come off you will be exactly the same as you are now, muscle tissue simply doesnt grow that quickly.

I dont plan on going back off

and you gotta remember, my previous best was 170 @ 7-8% so i will be regainng lost tissue that i had before ie. muscle memeory

i wanna hit 75-80 at the same condition so that will be harder

dont think it will take to much to get back to my previous condition of a buck 70

right now im already near a buck 60 but closer to 9-10%

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 23, 2017, 01:11:45 PM
I predict that i will hit a buck 70 within 2 weeks

I'm eating a bit more than normal but not that much more

certainly not following The Blakely Bulk
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 23, 2017, 03:56:41 PM
got a 3 day pass to a diff gym and today i trained 3 times, yesterday it was twice

I usually train eveyday twice a day and train each muscle every 48 hours

Im bored to tears coz i have no work except twice a week or sometimes 3 days a week, and basically no friends

honestly it isnt so nice being a narcissit but like the eagles sang long ago... "and its so hard to change" from Take it to the limit



you should check out meetup.com  they have all kinds of groups of people with varying interests who meetup, hangout and do shit. I even knew a gal who hung out with a group of people with social awkwardness, I am sure there is a group of people out there you could meet and hang out with, most people are pretty accepting and as long as you don't act psycho or try to creep on the chicks you will ake friends, I joined up a group years ago when I quit drinking as I needed new friends who were not drunks/druggies and not just hang out with people from aa/ca

I would also suggest 2 simple books, how to win friends and influence poeple/ how to stop worrying ad start living both by dale carnegie.

also since you said you used to be an alcohlic, why not join aa? You will make new friends there, also not just with people who went rhoguh alcohol abuse, but  dont forget many are current and former narcissists etc and have figured out how to live with different conditions yet leatned to make and maintain relationships with people.

by the way, meetup.com is where people actually meetup for various activities

trust me I have been on both sides of these equations and I am an isolator at heart. the best way to meet people and make friends who will  tolerate you is to get out there and try new things. the only I suggest is when you meet people let them do the talking and only talk about yourself if asked a question and briefly. Give people snippets of youraelf and take a sincere interest in them without making it about yourself. That is the hardest thing about communicating with people, everyone wants to put in their word rather than listen.

just try the opposite to what you think for 2 months and tell me things don't change. as well perhaps look for a job, any job and/or take a course or 2, another way to meet people and learn how to interact again.

life is not all about workouts, playing individual sports, steroids or looking in the mirror or seeking approval here. we need time outside this world

and if you have a dog, they have dog owner groups on meetup as well
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 23, 2017, 04:41:19 PM
^^^ thanls for the advice dude

the funny thing is i can make.frinds/contacts.very easily if i try, especially with dudes, with females not really

you see, if i convesr with a female.i want to pound her and i dont try and talk with females i dont have an interst in

my psychatrist ordered me to talm to peeps and he told me to treat them as i treat myslef and try not to use them lol

after awhile he saw that i meet and talk to fellas very essily so i told me only talk to females

heres the thing with females, i want them to give me what i want and when they dont i get furious, narcissitic rage its called lol

he ordered me to talk to females i have no sexual interest in and i said why would i? thats stupid lulz

not only must they give me what i want they also must treat me like im the greatest thing since sliced bread 😅

3 of the girls i dated or was friends with had eatoing disorders and 2 others got breast implants

the breast implants i never understood coz tits do nothing for me, i am crazy bout dat ass 😏

now that i see this i see that i act like a spoiled brat with females, no wonder i cant keep relationships with them going  :D

but all male."friendships" are very shallow and i know that i keep contact with them coz i can get them to do what i want and of they dont its adios and i cut contact with them

again... narcissism sucks dead donkey dicks and i am really pissed that they arnet any meds for it... FUCK

p.s. spermataste and wiggs are also HUGE NARRCISTS

but again, thank God i am not a sociopathic narccisst altjough it may have been better since it probably would have made me wealthy lol

btw bequeer get me a good set up for some prime hgh 😘
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 24, 2017, 10:22:20 PM
couple of shots taken last night

sorry dim no shirtless pics yet, but.... SOOOOOOOOON
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: doggler on October 25, 2017, 04:50:09 PM
^^^ thanls for the advice dude

the funny thing is i can make.frinds/contacts.very easily if i try, especially with dudes, with females not really

you see, if i convesr with a female.i want to pound her and i dont try and talk with females i dont have an interst in

my psychatrist ordered me to talm to peeps and he told me to treat them as i treat myslef and try not to use them lol

after awhile he saw that i meet and talk to fellas very essily so i told me only talk to females

heres the thing with females, i want them to give me what i want and when they dont i get furious, narcissitic rage its called lol

he ordered me to talk to females i have no sexual interest in and i said why would i? thats stupid lulz

not only must they give me what i want they also must treat me like im the greatest thing since sliced bread 😅

3 of the girls i dated or was friends with had eatoing disorders and 2 others got breast implants

the breast implants i never understood coz tits do nothing for me, i am crazy bout dat ass 😏

now that i see this i see that i act like a spoiled brat with females, no wonder i cant keep relationships with them going  :D

but all male."friendships" are very shallow and i know that i keep contact with them coz i can get them to do what i want and of they dont its adios and i cut contact with them

again... narcissism sucks dead donkey dicks and i am really pissed that they arnet any meds for it... FUCK

p.s. spermataste and wiggs are also HUGE NARRCISTS

but again, thank God i am not a sociopathic narccisst altjough it may have been better since it probably would have made me wealthy lol

btw bequeer get me a good set up for some prime hgh 😘

Good to know this stuff. ;D
Why didn't you share it with us in  G&O ?
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 25, 2017, 10:54:34 PM
just remembering some Doc Bkakely quotes to me

"you have the genetics to look like bob weatherhill if you take the righy gear"

"if you don't develop your true god given potential you will hurt God very deeply"

and once when he was trainiing me i notxied 2 guys talking shit about my supposed flared lat stance and was ready to go over and confront them, qnd he said...

"its not worth it, and no you arent falsely flaring your lats, you see you are up here (he poimted up high) and they are down here (he pointed down) so just continue on and go up.even higher"😎
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on October 28, 2017, 10:55:32 AM
back shot taken today   8)
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 01, 2017, 12:06:49 AM
made a troll vid yesterday and the turds here fell for it hook line and sinker 😂

progressing well as my str has gone up and even traiining legs a bit
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 04, 2017, 04:17:12 AM
up 8 pounds @ 3 weeks in
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on November 05, 2017, 03:38:44 PM
up 8 pounds @ 3 weeks in
hahahaha. I gain and lose 7lbs in a day......
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 05, 2017, 08:27:40 PM
hahahaha. I gain and lose 7lbs in a day......

 :-*

THIS is what a 7 quailty pound diff looks like boyo
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on November 06, 2017, 04:42:18 AM
:-*

THIS is what a 7 quailty pound diff looks like boyo
those fingers really show off how skinny you are,,,
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 06, 2017, 04:50:42 AM
those fingers really show off how skinny you are,,,

read an interesting article about small hands and punching power

basically its power advantage having skinny hands

think.... Thomas Hearns
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on November 06, 2017, 10:21:23 AM
read an interesting article about small hands and punching power

basically its power advantage having skinny hands

think.... Thomas Hearns

and thats relevant to your 7lb weight gain how?
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 06, 2017, 10:56:03 AM
and thats relevant to your 7lb weight gain how?

its not, you put me down so i built myself back up  8)

i usually stall @ bout 77 kg and im here now, so we will see what happens...

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 06, 2017, 12:11:29 PM
just snapped this shot today
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on November 06, 2017, 09:50:34 PM
its not, you put me down so i built myself back up  8)

i usually stall @ bout 77 kg and im here now, so we will see what happens...


almost 6ft and 77kgs thats borderline anorexic

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 06, 2017, 11:22:17 PM
almost 6ft and 77kgs thats borderline anorexic



not with wrists that measure less than 6 inches and a waist that is well under 30 inches  ;)

15's advices pour moi was ACE, npp, low test and drol in and out

deca shits all over npp in my experience but ACE is good to go, and orals dont do much pour moi

also 15 said that this condition is too ripped and dry for everyday living and i agree

its best to walk around @ 6-7% not sub 5 like i am here
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 07, 2017, 12:06:08 AM
almost 6ft and 77kgs thats borderline anorexic



5'7" 75 kg

yes, seeeeeeevvvvvvvveeeeeenn nnnnn fiiiiiiiiivvvvvvvvveeeee ee kg
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 07, 2017, 11:36:14 PM
think i'll drop down to 200 mg of  deca per day til i hit 80 kg or so, then ill work on refining the new mass

Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on November 09, 2017, 10:35:04 AM
5'7" 75 kg

yes, seeeeeeevvvvvvvveeeeeenn nnnnn fiiiiiiiiivvvvvvvvveeeee ee kg

5'7 and no legs
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on November 09, 2017, 10:35:52 AM
think i'll drop down to 200 mg of  deca per day til i hit 80 kg or so, then ill work on refining the new mass



hahahaa fucking heads gone already, not making any gains, drop the gear (excuse 101....)
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 09, 2017, 12:46:43 PM
hahahaa fucking heads gone already, not making any gains, drop the gear (excuse 101....)

I Post pic up tomorrow 😉
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Primemuscle on November 09, 2017, 03:40:47 PM
just snapped this shot today

You need a tan.
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 11, 2017, 08:48:01 AM
15.5 not sure 17 is possible @ 175-180

Hmmmmm......
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Primemuscle on November 11, 2017, 12:47:34 PM
15.5 not sure 17 is possible @ 175-180

Hmmmmm......

I'm not suggesting you did this, but if someone wanted to fudge on circumference measurements, all they need is a close pin or a paper clip on the tape where it cannot be seen.

Actually, 15.5" (39.5 cm) is pretty good for the average person who spends a reasonable amount of time working their arms. Good job!
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 11, 2017, 01:49:40 PM
I'm not suggesting you did this, but if someone wanted to fudge on circumference measurements, all they need is a close pin or a paper clip on the tape where it cannot be seen.

Actually, 15.5" (39.5 cm) is pretty good for the average person who spends a reasonable amount of time working their arms. Good job!

Thanks dude and it's really good for someone who is near 6 foot tall and weighs only 163
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: Simple Simon on November 12, 2017, 03:38:22 AM
Thanks dude and it's really good for someone who is near 6 foot tall and weighs only 163

a 15.5 inch arm puts you in the top 5% of physiques in the world???
I have a shit physique?

You are the one who is delusional

My physique RIGHT NOW is in the top 5% of the world's pop

GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE WITH THAT SHIT guy
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 12, 2017, 04:36:02 AM
a 15.5 inch arm puts you in the top 5% of physiques in the world???

As far as aesthetic looks go, yes it does
Title: Re: 25 quality pounds in 6 weeks
Post by: dj181 on November 16, 2017, 11:18:07 PM
I've got a little bit over a week left, and I sure as hell ain't gonna be gaining no 25 fucking pounds

I might have gained 15 though

Only wanna gain another 10 pounds TOPS anyways

15 says yes its possible to have 17"s at sub 180 😎