Honest question for all Obama supporters. I'm serious.

[Soul Crusher]

We all go back and forth about about what we think about the Admn's policies, etc etc.

For those of you who support what Obama is doing, I have the following questions:


1.  At what point do you think it is fair to judge whether his policies are working? 


2.  What would it take for you to no longer support Obama's policies?


I am being serious on this question. 


 

[Hugo Chavez]

We all go back and forth about about what we think about the Admn's policies, etc etc.

For those of you who support what Obama is doing, I have the following questions:


1.  At what point do you think it is fair to judge whether his policies are working? 


2.  What would it take for you to no longer support Obama's policies?


I am being serious on this question. 


 

HR 875 passing, I'm done if that or anything similar passes.

[Deicide]

HR 875 passing, I'm done if that or anything similar passes.

What does HR 875 involve?

[OzmO]

We all go back and forth about about what we think about the Admn's policies, etc etc.

For those of you who support what Obama is doing, I have the following questions:


1.  At what point do you think it is fair to judge whether his policies are working? 


2.  What would it take for you to no longer support Obama's policies?


I am being serious on this question. 


 

2 years

[BM OUT]

They will NEVER admit he failed at anything.They will continue to blame Bush for ANYTHING that goes wrong and praise Obama for anything that goes right.

[Hugo Chavez]

What does HR 875 involve?

There are some dramatics by oponents so you won't find the "exact" wording in the bill but it's not hard to read between the lines on this one.  Really bad shit on this one imo.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=271255.0

[OzmO]

They will NEVER admit he failed at anything.They will continue to blame Bush for ANYTHING that goes wrong and praise Obama for anything that goes right.

You just defined politics in general. 

Congratulations! 

[OzmO]

There are some dramatics by oponents so you won't find the "exact" wording in the bill but it's not hard to read between the lines on this one.  Really bad shit on this one imo.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=271255.0

I skimmed most of the thread. 

So basically we are talking about over regulation that would penalize the small farmer?

[pillowtalk]

There are some dramatics by oponents so you won't find the "exact" wording in the bill but it's not hard to read between the lines on this one.  Really bad shit on this one imo.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=271255.0

Nice link Hugo  good thread - who owns 'Monsanto' ?? 

[Soul Crusher]

Nice link Hugo  good thread - who owns 'Monsanto' ?? 

Isnt that a family owned business or something lik that?

I have heard some pretty bad things about them.

[Hugo Chavez]

Nice link Hugo  good thread - who owns 'Monsanto' ?? 

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,760723,00.html

[Hugo Chavez]

Isnt that a family owned business or something lik that?

I have heard some pretty bad things about them.

yea, they've done some really nasty shit over the years. Agent Orange, Nutrasweet, Manhattan Project; it's a long line of fucked up shit with these guys.  Now they've taken up the motto straight out of Omen II about feeding the world's hungry.  and literally lol the devil is in the details.

[The True Adonis]

I find this disturbing that Hugo Chavez is spreading such DISINFORMATION.  This is the stuff of loony conspiracy theories and devoid of all fact.  Typical Media Process Biasing.

[Hugo Chavez]

I find this disturbing that Hugo Chavez is spreading such DISINFORMATION.  This is the stuff of loony conspiracy theories and devoid of all fact.  Typical Media Process Biasing.

Says Mr. Junk Food is good for you   What kind of disinfo is that lolloollollolol  What the fuck are you? A Regional Burger King Manager?

[The True Adonis]

We all go back and forth about about what we think about the Admn's policies, etc etc.

For those of you who support what Obama is doing, I have the following questions:


1.  At what point do you think it is fair to judge whether his policies are working? 


2.  What would it take for you to no longer support Obama's policies?


I am being serious on this question. 


 

1. Depends on the policy, how long it was designed to take and if it meets the standards and requirements within that time frame.

2. There is no all or nothing nor should there be.  You don`t have to polarize yourself and support 100 percent or 0 percent of his policies as the only default choice.  Also, we have to be careful just who is to hold accountable for specific policies as a lot are certainly historic in nature, many Presidential Terms old, and certainly not attributable to any one person.  Also, certain policies may be crafted and signed on to by even by his political "opponents".   So we have to be careful what we characterize as strictly "an Obama policy".

[The True Adonis]

Says Mr. Junk Food is good for you   What kind of disinfo is that lolloollollolol  What the fuck are you? A Regional Burger King Manager?

Define "Junk Food" and how "Junk Food" is not an agreeable part of a diet.

If you like, we can go picture for picture of our meals and how we look.  We can also compare blood charts if you like to see who is healthier.

[Soul Crusher]

1. Depends on the policy, how long it was designed to take and if it meets the standards and requirements within that time frame.

2. There is no all or nothing nor should there be.  You don`t have to polarize yourself and support 100 percent or 0 percent of his policies as the only default choice.  Also, we have to be careful just who is to hold accountable for specific policies as a lot are certainly historic in nature, many Presidential Terms old, and certainly not attributable to any one person.  Also, certain policies may be crafted and signed on to by even by his political "opponents".   So we have to be careful what we characterize as strictly "an Obama policy".

Stimulus Bill and GM & Chrysler bailouts are owned by Obama

[Hugo Chavez]

Define "Junk Food" and how "Junk Food" is not an agreeable part of a diet.

If you like, we can go picture for picture of our meals and how we look.  We can also compare blood charts if you like to see who is healthier.

Save it, we've all heard you jackass junkfood theories...

[Soul Crusher]

Save it, we've all heard you jackass junkfood theories...

I guess there is no love between HC and TA?

[The True Adonis]

Save it, we've all heard you jackass junkfood theories...

Define "Junk Food" and how "Junk Food" is not an agreeable part of a diet.

You can`t.

[shootfighter1]

I am not a big Obama supporter but I think after 1 full year, his policies certainly have enough time to be judged fairly.

[Soul Crusher]

I am not a big Obama supporter but I think after 1 full year, his policies certainly have enough time to be judged fairly.

I just hope the media has an ounce of honesty in this, but I am not holding my breath.

[240 is Back]

I just hope the media has an ounce of honesty in this, but I am not holding my breath.

for the 12th time.... Does 'the media" include fox news?

[Soul Crusher]

for the 12th time.... Does 'the media" include fox news?

Fox is one portion of the news, not even remotely close to the totality of all the major networks, newspapers, print mags, etc.

[pillowtalk]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,760723,00.html

It was a jest 'Hugo' - a portion of the text from your link...............

Outstanding as of June 1, 1938, were 1,241,816 common shares held by 4,300 men, 4,084 women, 2,708 trusts, groups, institutions. Mr. Queeny holds only 3.4% has beneficial interest in about 4.5% more through relatives and trusts. One officer of the company owns 1.47%, no others own more than .25%.

Always the best way to try the 'old smoke & mirrors'  that one - trust groups/institutions