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If Christie wins the nomination in 2016, Democrats might just celebrate. I'm not sure all that much will change.
Christie is on record as believing in global warming and, more specifically, that it is man made. He can NEVER escape this position with base voters. Ever. Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie clearly opposes offshore drilling off the coast on New Jersey. Repubs want to drill, baby, drill! Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie has stood with Obama’s EPA- arguably one of the most liberally radical federal agencies- in opposing construction of a new power plant in eastern Pennsylvania. He hates coal. HATES COAL!!!! Christie Agrees with Obama
Abortion issue? Christie has donated $ to Planned Parenthood. Christie has since changed his position, but that may be hard to sell to base voters.... suddenly he's a flipflopper? Compared to lifelong pro-life candidates like Rand, no contest
Foreign intervention? lol, obama all the way: We ARE the leader in Libya; we MUST be the world's police. Christie Agrees with Obama
Guns? No right-to-carry cross-state reciprocity. (Jun 2012) - Favors gun control measures from law-enforcement perspective Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie was notoriously soft on illegal immigrants, and called it a federal problem. That's right, he wants the govt to handle it. Christie Agrees with Obama
NJ Govt has ballooned under Christie - He's not a small govt guy. Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie has completely capitulated to a federal, Obama-supported educational policy... NCLB all the way, baby! Christie Agrees with Obama
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(http://weeklyworldnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/christie_obamab.jpg)
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no wonder you like this guy so much
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If Christie wins the nomination in 2016, Democrats might just celebrate. I'm not sure all that much will change.
Christie is on record as believing in global warming and, more specifically, that it is man made. He can NEVER escape this position with base voters. Ever. Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie clearly opposes offshore drilling off the coast on New Jersey. Repubs want to drill, baby, drill! Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie has stood with Obama’s EPA- arguably one of the most liberally radical federal agencies- in opposing construction of a new power plant in eastern Pennsylvania. He hates coal. HATES COAL!!!! Christie Agrees with Obama
Abortion issue? Christie has donated $ to Planned Parenthood. Christie has since changed his position, but that may be hard to sell to base voters.... suddenly he's a flipflopper? Compared to lifelong pro-life candidates like Rand, no contest
Foreign intervention? lol, obama all the way: We ARE the leader in Libya; we MUST be the world's police. Christie Agrees with Obama
Guns? No right-to-carry cross-state reciprocity. (Jun 2012) - Favors gun control measures from law-enforcement perspective Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie was notoriously soft on illegal immigrants, and called it a federal problem. That's right, he wants the govt to handle it. Christie Agrees with Obama
NJ Govt has ballooned under Christie - He's not a small govt guy. Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie has completely capitulated to a federal, Obama-supported educational policy... NCLB all the way, baby! Christie Agrees with Obama
A fatter version of Romney?
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A fatter version of Romney?
Romney's dd was gov and ran for prez. Romney was a millionaire and was essentially, running for prez his entire life. He LOOKED like president. He ACTED like president. He was diplomatic and really would have done a solid job - he had been running for it since he was born.
Christie is *probably* just the latest media conversation... you know how they entertained "can hermann Cain overcome the haters?" when it was really Cain's lack of grasp of anything pase 9-9-9 that cost him the job. The media was VERY good at ramping up 5 or 7 guys, over and over, to the top of the polls. Newt led by 25 points once, didn't he? LMAO...
Looking at the list I showed above... Any conservative would be batshit crazy to look at his record, his appearance, his anger, and say "This guy is way more electable and conservative than Rand or Cruz". Seriously. Sure, they'll fall in line with half-hearted support if it's him against Hilary... although there's a chance Hilary might be more conservative than Christie is ;)
The liberal media considers Christie a non-threat... they love his ass. MSNBC is on his nuts like you wouldn't believe. They WANT this angry fat slob with democrat voting record to be up against whoever follows Obama on the dem side.
The question is, what do repubs want?
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Romney's dd was gov and ran for prez. Romney was a millionaire and was essentially, running for prez his entire life. He LOOKED like president. He ACTED like president. He was diplomatic and really would have done a solid job - he had been running for it since he was born.
Christie is *probably* just the latest media conversation... you know how they entertained "can hermann Cain overcome the haters?" when it was really Cain's lack of grasp of anything pase 9-9-9 that cost him the job. The media was VERY good at ramping up 5 or 7 guys, over and over, to the top of the polls. Newt led by 25 points once, didn't he? LMAO...
Looking at the list I showed above... Any conservative would be batshit crazy to look at his record, his appearance, his anger, and say "This guy is way more electable and conservative than Rand or Cruz". Seriously. Sure, they'll fall in line with half-hearted support if it's him against Hilary... although there's a chance Hilary might be more conservative than Christie is ;)
The liberal media considers Christie a non-threat... they love his ass. MSNBC is on his nuts like you wouldn't believe. They WANT this angry fat slob with democrat voting record to be up against whoever follows Obama on the dem side.
The question is, what do repubs want?
Good post.
The republicans will say they want a real conservative but then they will stab him in the back and go with a Cristie/Romney instead.
Look what happened to RP during the GOP convention.
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Good post.
The republicans will say they want a real conservative but then they will stab him in the back and go with a Cristie/Romney instead.
Look what happened to RP during the GOP convention.
Remember SOME getbiggers saying they were GLAD that Ron Paul was railroaded (dude driven around RNC in a bus so he couldn't get out to address it, they changed rules on the fly to avoid giving RP voice time)
These "repubs" said they were okay with it because it was important to "unite" the party.
Yeah, I hope you eat a dog shit sandwich if you were "okay with it" last time. Don't take offense if it wasn't you. But if you were okay with it, well, be happy when it happens again... when Rand or Cruz will have a real case for the nomination and they'll just escort RINO Christie to the front of the line.
But hey, it's important to "unite", cause we all know that means great base turnout, right? ;)
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Im still a little confused about the base turnout thing.
If the base thinks a black commie, hell bent on destroying the US is still better than who their own party has nominated, how are you ever gonna convince them to vote ???
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Im still a little confused about the base turnout thing.
If the base thinks a black commie, hell bent on destroying the US is still better than who their own party has nominated, how are you ever gonna convince them to vote ???
b/c the base isnt the racist, homophobic, islamaphobic hate mongers idiots like you have been brainwashed to believe they are ::)
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"Maybe my opponent Gov Christie gleaned some advice from President Obama when he called him to congratulate him for winning that second term...
Obama congratulates Republican Christie in phone call
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama congratulated New Jersey's Republican governor, Chris Christie, on Wednesday on his landslide re-election victory.
White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters on an Air Force One flight carrying Obama to Dallas that Obama and Christie had spoken by phone a day after Christie's victory.
Christie, a moderate and potential 2016 Republican presidential candidate, defeated Democrat Barbara Buono, who did not get much help from Obama in her uphill battle to defeat the Republican.
Obama and Christie bonded in the aftermath of the superstorm Sandy that swept across New Jersey a year ago when the Democratic president gave a well-received show of concern that may have helped him win re-election over Republican Mitt Romney. Obama and Christie visited the Jersey Shore together in May to promote the area's recovery from the storm.
Rand Paul:
“I think the Republican Party is a big party, and we need moderates like Chris Christie who can win in New Jersey in our party,” Paul said in an interview with CNN. “What it means about the national party, I’m not sure there is an answer. But we do need moderates like Chris Christie in the party.”
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b/c the base isnt the racist, homophobic, islamaphobic hate mongers idiots like you have been brainwashed to believe they are ::)
I thought people like you was the base Tony.
My bad ;D
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Christie is the frontrunner to be hillary's vp pick ;D
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Christie is the frontrunner to be hillary's vp pick ;D
Such a ticket really would be unbeatable. the repub "base" hasn't truly gotten out of bed to vote since 2004. And even then, the election came down to one state.
The repubs sat home in 2008 and 2012.
But hey, I'm sure a pro-climate change, anti-coal, planned parenthood donating, world police, pro-gun control, pro-amnesty, big govt candidate like Christie will change things.
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Such a ticket really would be unbeatable. the repub "base" hasn't truly gotten out of bed to vote since 2004. And even then, the election came down to one state.
The repubs sat home in 2008 and 2012.
But hey, I'm sure a pro-climate change, anti-coal, planned parenthood donating, world police, pro-gun control, pro-amnesty, big govt candidate like Christie will change things.
I sense that a storm is coming next year....lets hope so. Cause if conservatives don't show up and fight like hell in those elections, the Left will never lose again
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I sense that a storm is coming next year....lets hope so. Cause if conservatives don't show up and fight like hell in those elections, the Left will never lose again
By extension... maybe in the GOP primaries, the RINOS will never lose again.
When you consider - in 2012 and ever since - FOX news, Levin, Hannity... they've all pushed for the "establishment" candidate. They mocked Ron paul and now they mock rand. FOX has been all over Cruz for the last 3 months.
The "left" mindset, RINO beliefs, are represented by both candidates in elections now. Christie is pretty similar to Hilary. Doesn't matter to MSNBC who wins. Their ratings will spike when they're ANTI- whoever is in charge.
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From now on we refer to them as Vichy republicans...those collaborationists who side with the democrats in power instead of siding with and backing up their own.
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From now on we refer to them as Vichy republicans...those collaborationists who side with the democrats in power instead of siding with and backing up their own.
You mean thinking republicans. :)
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http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/190700-christie-obamacare-will-fail
;D
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I still wouldn't vote for Christie.
I don't trust him as far as I can throw him and there is no one that could even lift that whale.
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I still wouldn't vote for Christie.
I don't trust him as far as I can throw him and there is no one that could even lift that whale.
hahaha did you try to make a funny, pleeeease stop
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hahaha did you try to make a funny, pleeeease stop
Better to try to make a funny, then to try to be an idiot and SUCCEED. Like you.
There is nothing and I mean nothing more stupid than being a foreigner, in this case from Canada, and be absolutely engrossed and obsessed with the political situation in the USA.
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Better to try to make a funny, then to try to be an idiot and SUCCEED. Like you.
There is nothing and I mean nothing more stupid than being a foreigner, in this case from Canada, and be absolutely engrossed and obsessed with the political situation in the USA.
you far right morons can't be funny,remember fox news trying to make a show to compete with the daily show,complete disaster
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you far right morons can't be funny,remember fox news trying to make a show to compete with the daily show,complete disaster
The height of stupidity is living every single day worrying and commenting on the political legislations of another country that in the end have no meaningful effect on your life.
It is a testament as to why you would endear yourself to this country's libtards.
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amazing list. Christie is the most liberal candidate in the repub field, isn't he?
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Why can't that fat bodied slimy walrus looking piece of shit twinkle toed commie coksucker Christie just fuck the hell off already?
Get to hear him on the talk radio shows i listen to blowing Brobama constantly and making himself look like what he is: 400 lbs of chewed bubble gum with a beet red faced head on top.
When this sweaty fat tub of shit started letting Brobama push his shit in on the regular, I knew he was assured a candidacy in the next election.
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the problem is this...
EVERY minute the networks (Fox and MSN alike) spend covering CHristie... is a minute they're not covering Cruz or Rand or another person that actually reflects conservative beliefs.
When they give 2 minutes to Obama and 2 minutes to Christie, they're really giving 4 minutes to libs. And ZERO minutes to actual conservative ideals.
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Such a ticket really would be unbeatable. the repub "base" hasn't truly gotten out of bed to vote since 2004. And even then, the election came down to one state.
The repubs sat home in 2008 and 2012.
But hey, I'm sure a pro-climate change, anti-coal, planned parenthood donating, world police, pro-gun control, pro-amnesty, big govt candidate like Christie will change things.
What about the narrative the 2012 was a complete union powered sham, and that Obama used a crony ground game and IRS to suppress dissent and that the majority of people wanted Romney and voted Romney, but Obamas buds counted the results and fudged it about 300k total in Obama's favor in 5 battleground states, thus giving obumma the win?
I wonder also about the narrative that if you put a straight majority vote to the people to keep or get rid fo obama care then it would be gone?
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amazing list. Christie is the most liberal candidate in the repub field, isn't he?
I don't see how any republicans can call him a "good person" or a "good leader" when he is willing to sacrifice so many rights, so much treasure, of the people, in the name of pushing he and obama's liberal agenda for so long.
Maybe these kinda folks believed a lot of evil men were "good leaders" because of their management style... but if the ideology they espouse is pure evil, well, they certainly cannot be "good people". Impossible.
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We had these same conversations in 2008 and 2012. Both times, voices like me were saying "Dude, Mccain/Romney is a TOTAL RINO... the base isn't going to vote for him... RUN from this dog and choose an actual conservative!"
We're having that conversation again. "Dude, Christie is a total RINO, the base isn't going to vote for him.... Run from this dog and choose Cruz in 2016".
But methinks if you were so set on the 08 and 12 choices, that you'll go for that again. totally cool.
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We had these same conversations in 2008 and 2012. Both times, voices like me were saying "Dude, Mccain/Romney is a TOTAL RINO... the base isn't going to vote for him... RUN from this dog and choose an actual conservative!"
We're having that conversation again. "Dude, Christie is a total RINO, the base isn't going to vote for him.... Run from this dog and choose Cruz in 2016".
But methinks if you were so set on the 08 and 12 choices, that you'll go for that again. totally cool.
You had these discussions but then voted for Obama. You are so full of crap.
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They all suck!!!! :-X
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They all suck!!!! :-X
It is a pretty sorry lot overall. I wish we had better choices across the board.
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Why can't that fat bodied slimy walrus looking piece of shit twinkle toed commie coksucker Christie just fuck the hell off already?
Get to hear him on the talk radio shows i listen to blowing Brobama constantly and making himself look like what he is: 400 lbs of chewed bubble gum with a beet red faced head on top.
When this sweaty fat tub of shit started letting Brobama push his shit in on the regular, I knew he was assured a candidacy in the next election.
I was shocked to see that FL Republican Gov Rick Scott had CHristie speaking with him - 3 days before the election - in a race that is a dead heat. Piss off the repub base so close to an election when you absolutely need them?
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Christie turned out to be a real pos
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As an 'anti-democrat' ( i refuse to identify as a republican), im not really happy with anyone.
The Pauls are closest to my ideals but even then Ron had some really extreme ideas that sound great on paper but wouldnt work in the modern world.
Hopefully Rand has tempered his idealism a little bit since hes younger and can see how his father got crucified for going so far away from the party line. (Which is pathetic).
Cruz, dont know enough, but seems to be a scumbag to me.
Everyone else are just cloned sheep, bland politicians that blend into a sea of faceless, interchangable RINOs, none of whom have any sort of real political idealism or beliefs, just "whatever you want to hear is what i believe" attitudes.
Fuck Murrican' politics in this day and age. All we have now are spoon fed candidates who all represent the same thing; furthering the interests of whichever the fuck elites/big money donors are behind the scenes trying to get their agendas pushed through, at the expense of the American tax payers and business owners that got them elected in the 1st place.
We dont get a choice, they pick out 2 guys who spew opposing bullshit but actually have the same goals, just different ways and jutsifications for doing so. Either way, we get the same result.
Anyone who represents real change is crucifed and laughed out of the race, even by their own party. That right there should show everyone that we dont have a choice. They pick our candidates for us, we just get to select which animal we get to get fucked by.
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Cruz, dont know enough, but seems to be a scumbag to me.
I dunno,... both the RINOs and the LIBs would love to see Cruz destroyed, so the field would be composed of centrist moderates. let's face it, Hilary is probably more conservative than Christie if you look at their bodies of work. Without a true conservative in the race, an obama/bush/mccain/romney/hilary/christie moderate neocon hybrid will win. And we get more of the same.
And during his years in office, there hasn't been a bombshell about him. He's kept his nose clean. Hes' the ONLY person not crying we need to allow amnesty - I mean Rubio, Christie, Jeb, Palin, Rand Paul, Ryan, they ALL support amnesty for these illegals.
All except Cruz.
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I dunno,... both the RINOs and the LIBs would love to see Cruz destroyed, so the field would be composed of centrist moderates. let's face it, Hilary is probably more conservative than Christie if you look at their bodies of work. Without a true conservative in the race, an obama/bush/mccain/romney/hilary/christie moderate neocon hybrid will win. And we get more of the same.
And during his years in office, there hasn't been a bombshell about him. He's kept his nose clean. Hes' the ONLY person not crying we need to allow amnesty - I mean Rubio, Christie, Jeb, Palin, Rand Paul, Ryan, they ALL support amnesty for these illegals.
All except Cruz.
1 or 2 stances does not paint a complete picture.
His voting record is what matters to me.
Rand is closest to my personal beliefs.
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Even OBAMA is better on legalization than Christie:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/01/22/obama-on-marijuana-legalization-my-suspicion-is-that-youre-gonna-see-other-states-start-looking-at-this/
He said he doesn't like it, but he won't use federal resources to hate on states like COLO and WASH that legalize it.
Contrast that with Christie, who wants to override states' rights. I guess the only thing worse than Obama/Christie agreeing, is Obama being more consevative on an issue than Christie :(
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Only the worst kind of "Republican" could ever get behind Christie, with so much in common with Obama.
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As of right now Hilary is leading all mock polls for next election. IMO the biggest threats to America are Obama, Hilary, and Sharpton in that order. Between race baiting, and lack of a politically dominant leader in this country it is not a great set up for future success.
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If Christie wins the nomination in 2016, Democrats might just celebrate. I'm not sure all that much will change.
Christie is on record as believing in global warming and, more specifically, that it is man made. He can NEVER escape this position with base voters. Ever. Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie clearly opposes offshore drilling off the coast on New Jersey. Repubs want to drill, baby, drill! Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie has stood with Obama’s EPA- arguably one of the most liberally radical federal agencies- in opposing construction of a new power plant in eastern Pennsylvania. He hates coal. HATES COAL!!!! Christie Agrees with Obama
Abortion issue? Christie has donated $ to Planned Parenthood. Christie has since changed his position, but that may be hard to sell to base voters.... suddenly he's a flipflopper? Compared to lifelong pro-life candidates like Rand, no contest
Foreign intervention? lol, obama all the way: We ARE the leader in Libya; we MUST be the world's police. Christie Agrees with Obama
Guns? No right-to-carry cross-state reciprocity. (Jun 2012) - Favors gun control measures from law-enforcement perspective Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie was notoriously soft on illegal immigrants, and called it a federal problem. That's right, he wants the govt to handle it. Christie Agrees with Obama
NJ Govt has ballooned under Christie - He's not a small govt guy. Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie has completely capitulated to a federal, Obama-supported educational policy... NCLB all the way, baby! Christie Agrees with Obama
Christie sounds like the perfect VP choice...
For Hilary!
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(http://weeklyworldnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/christie_obamab.jpg)
Heading to the hotel...Christie looks like he's agreed to be the bottom :D :D