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http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/oliva/so193.jpg
any questions??
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Yea, you just need insane genetics (occurring on 0,01 % of the population) instead...... wHAT A RELIEF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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and about 200 mg of orals per day added to your injectibles.
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Yea, you just need insane genetics (occurring on 0,01 % of the population) instead...... wHAT A RELIEF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cant argue there lol,,
genetics def needed, absolitly
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and about 200 mg of orals per day added to your injectibles.
sergio training patner reporter 7 x 5mg dbol pills - 3 x a day
105mg,,
seems likely
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sergio training patner reporter 7 x 5mg dbol pills - 3 x a day
105mg,,
seems likely
That sounds exactly right
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natural daze gone by
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and about 200 mg of orals per day added to your injectibles.
double it
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Genetic response is a bitch. :( I know a PL who looks like absolute crap who takes 150-200mg dbol regularly...
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double it
actualy more,, notice to the midsection ,,he is lean and low bodyfat in the 6-7% zone...yet no veins on the abdominals like every wanna be now day has lol why? dianabola...why? anadrola and yes anadrola was used in the 60s lol yes yes friends medical reasona all over and bodybuild too,,
whenever you see someone lean and they dont have veins in the abdominal area..it is either due to high dose oral in the 100+ 200+ sometimes 300+ or...and or testosterona which put water in the midsection zone... nto enough to disturbe the abdominal ...but enough to fuck with the veins and lines that come out usualy at6%,, this all fellas are 6% its only water manipulation that prevent them from seeing veins on the abs
ofcourse skin thickness playes a rolll....fellas who have skin fold from losing and gaining too much weight too fast,, but over all the reason for no veins on the midsection is what i stated in second paragraph
gh15 approved
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actualy more,, notice to the midsection ,,he is lean and low bodyfat in the 6-7% zone...yet no veins on the abdominals like every wanna be now day has lol why? dianabola...why? anadrola and yes anadrola was used in the 60s lol yes yes friends medical reasona all over and bodybuild too,,
whenever you see someone lean and they dont have veins in the abdominal area..it is either due to high dose oral in the 100+ 200+ sometimes 300+ or...and or testosterona which put water in the midsection zone... nto enough to disturbe the abdominal ...but enough to fuck with the veins and lines that come out usualy at6%,, this all fellas are 6% its only water manipulation that prevent them from seeing veins on the abs
ofcourse skin thickness playes a rolll....fellas who have skin fold from losing and gaining too much weight too fast,, but over all the reason for no veins on the midsection is what i stated in second paragraph
gh15 approved
So what would his use look like in that pic?
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sergio?
ANADROLA
DIANABOLA
lots of orals,, he ws young had high natural gh ,,
over all he used the steroids that were available in thsoe days
testosterona
nandrolona
vet drugs
and lots of orals
this is why he was never peeled...this is why he was mainly muscular thick look but never super shreded,, ripped was the max he got to ,, 5-6% dry ,,but 5-6 % dry on sergio> 4% dry on any other wanna be 2000 bodybuild
gh15 approved
but
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So what would his use look like in that pic?
dbol,anadrol,test,primo,deca,eq,winny and parabolin
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sergio training patner reporter 7 x 5mg dbol pills - 3 x a day
105mg,,
seems likely
that's probably just the dbol.. what i heard, and wouldn't know if it's true or not but i've always wanted to try it (LOL) was that he would empty bottles of orals (anavar, winny, dbol, anadrol) in a huge jar and shake it.... and he'd scoop out a bunch and swallow them a couple of times a day.
not sure how true this is... but, sounds like a great fucking plan! LOL (i'm not being sarcastic either)
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Pic is from 1972, prior to Essen Olympia.
Trained with Arthur Jones.
Arthur was quoted as saying that he wanted to see how much intensity a person could take without dying, and kept pushing Sergio harder and harder, to the point it is rumored that he once held a gun to his head.
After training, it was common for Sergio to eat a whole pizza and a 2 liter of coke.
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After training, it was common for Sergio to eat a whole pizza and a 2 liter of coke.
Maybe that has something to do with the lack of ab veins too. :D
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that's probably just the dbol.. what i heard, and wouldn't know if it's true or not but i've always wanted to try it (LOL) was that he would empty bottles of orals (anavar, winny, dbol, anadrol) in a huge jar and shake it.... and he'd scoop out a bunch and swallow them a couple of times a day.
not sure how true this is... but, sounds like a great fucking plan! LOL (i'm not being sarcastic either)
would be cool to try this out. i pay nothing for my orals so i may give this a shot lol
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Unlike most pro's today; Sergio actually trained heavy & hard
I regularly see a wannabe pro at the gym squatting 225lbs with a belt on!! Thats his top weight. He has huge quads too. (but looks like crap onstage next the the genetic elite). We is weak on on basic, free weight movements. Without drugs; he would weigh about 150lbs
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Sergio him self said he used only 3 drugs, D-bol, Winny, and Deca. He never mentioned dosage but Im sure it was a fair amount to get that massive not to mention the fact hes a 1%er in genetics.
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sergio?
ANADROLA
DIANABOLA
lots of orals,, he ws young had high natural gh ,,
over all he used the steroids that were available in thsoe days
testosterona
nandrolona
vet drugs
and lots of orals
this is why he was never peeled...this is why he was mainly muscular thick look but never super shreded,, ripped was the max he got to ,, 5-6% dry ,,but 5-6 % dry on sergio> 4% dry on any other wanna be 2000 bodybuild
gh15 approved
but
Some of the earliest development and tests of GH use happened in Cuba. Same country Sergio was born. See the connection?
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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/oliva/so193.jpg)
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/oliva/so193.jpg
any questions??
photoshopped?
arms thick as a brick
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is there a way to siphon gh from infants? i think there is a way.
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that's probably just the dbol.. what i heard, and wouldn't know if it's true or not but i've always wanted to try it (LOL) was that he would empty bottles of orals (anavar, winny, dbol, anadrol) in a huge jar and shake it.... and he'd scoop out a bunch and swallow them a couple of times a day.
not sure how true this is... but, sounds like a great fucking plan! LOL (i'm not being sarcastic either)
Also said he would mix oil and water steroids in large vial and just draw 3cc and poke everyday.
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I heard that he would eat burgers and drink large Cokes before a contest to get energy to pose ;D Sergio didnt believe in diet
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Sergio him self said he used only 3 drugs, D-bol, Winny, and Deca. He never mentioned dosage but Im sure it was a fair amount to get that massive not to mention the fact hes a 1%er in genetics.
Over his career he used many more compounds than that. There is a thread on here where one of his old training partners mentions some of the stuff he would take. According to him Sergio never relied on just drugs but he did use other drugs than those that you listed.
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Over his career he used many more compounds than that. There is a thread on here where one of his old training partners mentions some of the stuff he would take. According to him Sergio never relied on just drugs but he did use other drugs than those that you listed.
Probably in his earlier part of his career he used those 3 drugs but later in the 80's he used other stuff that everyone was using, think i read somewhere he used more Test in the 80's
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Ideal powerful physique!=so if he didnt use GH was Arnold the first with cadavers? what year approx Gh15?
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Ideal powerful physique!=so if he didnt use GH was Arnold the first with cadavers? what year approx Gh15?
How the fuck would he know this? lol
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How the fuck would he know this? lol
The Alien God Zhor told GH15 in a dream about GH use in the 70's
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Over his career he used many more compounds than that. There is a thread on here where one of his old training partners mentions some of the stuff he would take. According to him Sergio never relied on just drugs but he did use other drugs than those that you listed.
that's one of the reasons I look up to the guy bodybuilding wise... didn't care about drugs (as in didn't obsess and overthink)... just use any shit all together and trained like an animal. diet was in the shitter... true, genetically, he would probably turn the tub of lard he ate into muscle, but still, he didn't try to overcomplicate shit and never had a philosophy other than fucking eat, train like an animal, and shoot up/swallow whatever drug available.
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that's probably just the dbol.. what i heard, and wouldn't know if it's true or not but i've always wanted to try it (LOL) was that he would empty bottles of orals (anavar, winny, dbol, anadrol) in a huge jar and shake it.... and he'd scoop out a bunch and swallow them a couple of times a day.
not sure how true this is... but, sounds like a great fucking plan! LOL (i'm not being sarcastic either)
Pic is from 1972, prior to Essen Olympia.
Trained with Arthur Jones.
Arthur was quoted as saying that he wanted to see how much intensity a person could take without dying, and kept pushing Sergio harder and harder, to the point it is rumored that he once held a gun to his head.
After training, it was common for Sergio to eat a whole pizza and a 2 liter of coke.
Where do people come up with this stuff? ;D
Seriously,where are the sources for such nonsensical drivel?
And who is Sergios mysterious training partner?
He was called "The Myth" and most of the stories about him are fucking myths also! ;D
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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/oliva/so193.jpg)
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/oliva/so193.jpg
any questions??
Don't need it for what? To be a 60s BB?
What's your point? Dude is in worse contest shape than most Pros today in their Off-Season.
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Unlike most pro's today; Sergio actually trained heavy & hard
Sergio was an accomplished Olympic weightlifter on the Cuban weightlifting team........(this will build serious back,quad,and shoulder size = awesome foundation) long before he took up bodybuilding.
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Sergio was an accomplished Olympic weightlifter on the Cuban weightlifting team........(this will build serious back,quad,and shoulder size = awesome foundation) long before he took up bodybuilding.
It's much easier to say he's just all drugs. Fuck his Olympic crap. All those athletes are all the same. Drug abusing junkies with a passion for "fitness" :D
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Where do people come up with this stuff? ;D
Seriously,where are the sources for such nonsensical drivel?
And who is Sergios mysterious training partner?
He was called "The Myth" and most of the stories about him are fucking myths also! ;D
it's just shit you hear where you don't have to believe it, but just makes you go "hmmmm"... that's why i hate stories from boards about what arnold used and shit. If someone says "back in the 70's this is what we did", you can pretty much correlate that to what arnold and the gang did by taking that shit to the limit in that time.
so, if it sounds like something they'd do, they probably did it.
if you were the number 2 bodybuilder in the world, and really wanted to win the olympia, and someone told you that no.1 used this and this and that, and you realize that it's much more than you use, would you say "shit, that's crazy, i'll wait for him to die then i'll win" or will you say "i'll do that, and raise it by 10%"?
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It's much easier to say he's just all drugs. Fuck his Olympic crap. All those athletes are all the same. Drug abusing junkies with a passion for "fitness" :D
no no no... there's a huge difference between undermining his accomplishments and KNOWING he trained to the limit... and focusing on the drugs he used.
If anyone undermines his lifting record and how he trained, he's a fucking idiot.
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http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/oliva/so193.jpg
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permabulker
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it's just shit you hear where you don't have to believe it, but just makes you go "hmmmm"... that's why i hate stories from boards about what arnold used and shit. If someone says "back in the 70's this is what we did", you can pretty much correlate that to what arnold and the gang did by taking that shit to the limit in that time.
so, if it sounds like something they'd do, they probably did it.
if you were the number 2 bodybuilder in the world, and really wanted to win the olympia, and someone told you that no.1 used this and this and that, and you realize that it's much more than you use, would you say "shit, that's crazy, i'll wait for him to die then i'll win" or will you say "i'll do that, and raise it by 10%"?
I hear you bro,but I doubt these stories big time.
Holding a gun to his head during sets of squats, and having a huge jar of pills and taking random hit or miss handfuls at a time is just ridiculous IMO.
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If anyone can actully substantiate these rumors/myths,either in print from a reliable source, or from a REAL former training partner with a name and identity,then I would remain silent on this BS. ;)
Otherwise,all it is is BS.
I know he took lots of drugs but handfuls like candy is not believable to me...........the guy was a one in a million genetic freak with a huge foundation from the beginning.
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I hear you bro,but I doubt these stories big time.
Holding a gun to his head during sets of squats, and having a huge jar of pills and taking random hit or miss handfuls at a time is just ridiculous IMO.
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If anyone can actully substantiate these rumors/myths,either in print from a reliable source, or from a REAL former training partner with a name and identity,then I would remain silent on this BS. ;)
Otherwise,all it is is BS.
I know he took lots of drugs but handfuls like candy is not believable to me...........the guy was a one in a million genetic freak with a huge foundation from the beginning.
Blind pick'n'mix style.
He could be taking 200 grams of var and ten dbol, one day and then 300 drol and 5 grams var the next...
lol doesn't sound like a great way to keep progressing.
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That is the kind of look that I have some veins are on my abs but they are not very visible , I only do test and dinabol but I stack it with proviron.
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I hear you bro,but I doubt these stories big time.
Holding a gun to his head during sets of squats, and having a huge jar of pills and taking random hit or miss handfuls at a time is just ridiculous IMO.
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If anyone can actully substantiate these rumors/myths,either in print from a reliable source, or from a REAL former training partner with a name and identity,then I would remain silent on this BS. ;)
Otherwise,all it is is BS.
I know he took lots of drugs but handfuls like candy is not believable to me...........the guy was a one in a million genetic freak with a huge foundation from the beginning.
at the end of the day some guy meticuolsy planning cycles has no more of an idea how it will turn out then the guy with the jar full of pills guess at the best.
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Pic is from 1972, prior to Essen Olympia.
Trained with Arthur Jones.
Arthur was quoted as saying that he wanted to see how much intensity a person could take without dying, and kept pushing Sergio harder and harder, to the point it is rumored that he once held a gun to his head.
After training, it was common for Sergio to eat a whole pizza and a 2 liter of coke.
real way to boost intensity have a guy standing near the squat rack with a 12 gauge thats stupid. The jar and mixing the gear and pizza is far from stupid whats so bad about pizza it has 10more grams of fat then steak and potatoes ? Pizza has creatintomatonite the only form your body can use and they didnt have true protein to buy oatmeal powder from so the just drunk coke ? prolly snorted a little coke to that was back in the scareface days. Better be careful if this gets around true protein might start selling powder coke cola lol and idots would buy it to :(
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Yea, you just need insane genetics (occurring on 0,01 % of the population) instead...... wHAT A RELIEF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao
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Wes, I believe I heard a tape of Arthur Jones speaking about his training of Sergio Oliva for the 1972 Olympia.
I further believe that Ellington Darden has spoken about Arthur's recollection of training Sergio.
I do not make this stuff up.
Personally, pointing a gun at me would not make me perform better.
I'd probably soil myself.
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Wes, I believe I heard a tape of Arthur Jones speaking about his training of Sergio Oliva for the 1972 Olympia.
I further believe that Ellington Darden has spoken about Arthur's recollection of training Sergio.
I do not make this stuff up.
Personally, pointing a gun at me would not make me perform better.
I'd probably soil myself.
no we have all read them stories but ellington dardens a fruit cake that sells books albiet some of his training advice isnt horrible for a natural trying to get bigger and stronger. Arthur jones was a very crazy man got shot a lot in africa by poochers and in gun battles wars with the locals
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Wes, I believe I heard a tape of Arthur Jones speaking about his training of Sergio Oliva for the 1972 Olympia.
I further believe that Ellington Darden has spoken about Arthur's recollection of training Sergio.
I do not make this stuff up.
Personally, pointing a gun at me would not make me perform better.
I'd probably soil myself.
Consider the source bro.......Jones was eccentric to say the least...........nutty would be more on target.
I`ve heard that story also and the one about handfuls of pills but I still don`t believe them.
Do you for one minute think that Sergio would allow anyone to put a gun to his head to make him train harder?
C`mon bud,you`ve been around too long not to see how stupid this is.
"OK,for your next set,just in case you punk out and don`t go to failure,I`m gonna` put this loaded .38 up to your temple to insure that you eke out just one more excrutiatingly painful rep."
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when you realize the muscle he carried was purely from anabolics- muscle that actually contributes to raw power :D and not Gh and insulin you shake your head in disbelief at the STRENGTH this guy possessed in the weight room. Could probably bench 500 pounds like an empty bar... just a true freak of nature- right up there with vic richards monster of monsters.
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Ideal powerful physique!=so if he didnt use GH was Arnold the first with cadavers? what year approx Gh15?
powerful physique? that's all? lol...
you know the word "monster" and "beast" get's thrown out innaporpriately on boards way too much these days when it really shouldn't, because people start to loose the appreciation of the word monster. , This guy was a fucking MONSTER lol. guy could rip a person in half with his bare hands, look at the size of his hands lol. Superbreed slave genetics right there
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Why do people really care what bodybuilders say they took?
Or what methods "Guru's" say they followed.
We know at best, you have to take what's said with a huge grain of salt. But more commonly, it's probably just a huge chunk of bullshit..
Scooping drugs like candy and guns to the head?
ok
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Why do people really care what bodybuilders say they took?
Or what methods "Guru's" say they followed.
We know at best, you have to take what's said with a huge grain of salt. But more commonly, it's probably just a huge chunk of bullshit..
Scooping drugs like candy and guns to the head?
ok
For some reason believe most of those stories are probably true. From Arnold popping dbols like candy to kevin popping anadrol like tic tacs in public- do you think these stories come out of nowhere.?
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For some reason believe most of those stories are probably true. From Arnold popping dbols like candy to kevin popping anadrol like tic tacs in public- do you think these stories come out of nowhere.?
a lot of people make up stories to sound interesting
in every area of life
people are fucked up
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Sergio before he took up bodybuilding:
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After:
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funny just saw article on 'crazy'benny podda they said he would eat a pie in middle workouts and go right back to lifting,,,
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a lot of people make up stories to sound interesting
in every area of life
people are fucked up
u know you believe the stories....
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funny just saw article on 'crazy'benny podda they said he would eat a pie in middle workouts and go right back to lifting,,,
THAT I believe!!
Dude was off the chain! ;D
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u know you believe the stories....
I never believe shit until I have proof
too many liars
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For some reason believe most of those stories are probably true. From Arnold popping dbols like candy to kevin popping anadrol like tic tacs in public- do you think these stories come out of nowhere.?
Not from nowhere, more then likely from spiteful competitors/fans..
I'll admit that of course where there's smoke, theres fire. But scooping up random amounts of different orals each day would be a terrible method anyway lol.
And yeah, gun to the head squatting? If this was something Darden practiced do you think he would've done it in front of people/general public to see? Or does it just sound like something controversial that would set him apart from other guys selling books/info.
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I'll admit that of course where there's smoke, theres fire. But scooping up random amounts of different orals each day would be a terrible method anyway lol.
Sounds like something done to show off in front of people, not an every day thing.
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Sounds like something done to show off in front of people, not an every day thing.
I used to do that with Vitamins, crazy shit. Wouldn't even pay attention to the RDA.
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Ideal powerful physique!=so if he didnt use GH was Arnold the first with cadavers? what year approx Gh15?
one look at sergio's elbows in the 80s and you know he slammed GH.
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Sergio him self said he used only 3 drugs, D-bol, Winny, and Deca. He never mentioned dosage but Im sure it was a fair amount to get that massive not to mention the fact hes a 1%er in genetics.
he used lots of anadrola,, his look is of anadrola ,, he lie like all of us
gh15 approved
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That is the kind of look that I have some veins are on my abs but they are not very visible , I only do test and dinabol but I stack it with proviron.
lol there is no vein to be seen there,, if he lost some water there wil be ,,it is the drugs used who cause this look ,, anyone has veins when water go down and with most when fat go down
gh15 approved
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he used lots of anadrola,, his look is of anadrola ,, he lie like all of us
gh15 approved
Serious question.......did they even have Anadrol back then ?
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powerful physique? that's all? lol...
you know the word "monster" and "beast" get's thrown out innaporpriately on boards way too much these days when it really shouldn't, because people start to loose the appreciation of the word monster. , This guy was a fucking MONSTER lol. #### could rip a person in half with his bare hands, look at the size of his hands lol. Superbreed slave genetics right there
I used powerful but maybe incredible is better. He's top 5 ever with real strength I don't consider today's look with insulin etc to be on this level
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Serious question.......did they even have Anadrol back then ?
huh? early 60s anadrola all over bodybuild ,, how do you think they become big back in early 60s? they were big solid not big dianabola watery ....anadrola was mixed with dianabola in ratios to create specific looks ,, more anadrolal less dianabola
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huh? early 60s anadrola all over bodybuild ,, how do you think they become big back in early 60s? they were big solid not big dianabola watery ....anadrola was mixed with dianabola in ratios to create specific looks ,, more anadrolal less dianabola
gh15 approved
Hey big mouth, from what I've heard you've never even lifted weights. What a joke you are to evryone except your 3 or 4 f@ggoty elfs.
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Sounds like it is going down in this thread.
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In the early 80's, I used to get the original Ciba-Geigy Dianabol for $1 per bottle. I was a member of Kaiser Medical (in California) and my co-pay for my legit 100 X 5mg bottle was $1. $1 f-ing dollar. Beautiful little "Robin's egg blue" 5mg pills. Sucrose coated, beautiful.
At that price almost any quantity was reasonable.
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The training partner I talked about seemed like the real deal. I'll try to track down the thread I was referring to.
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In the 70s Sergio used Dianabol since there really wasn't mush else to use. When we were training we used Anadrol 50, Sustanon, Test, Halotestin, Deca, Winstrol V and a few others. Pretty much what ever we could get our hands on. We had a Pharmacist about two blocks from the gym who would fill up our bag.
Sergio didn't really need drugs to be big and he didn't respect guys that thought this was the only way to make gains. One of the most amazing things I can remember about training with his was watching his arms pump up. His arms would grow and grow during the workout. Quite a sight.
His workouts were always brutal. If I complained about the pace, he'd go crazy and bury me. We did Chest and Back on the same day, triceps and bicep on another and Legs and shoulders. We trained six days a week and each body part twice a week. Between 20 and 30 sets per body part. About an hour and a half per body part. Some supersetting was involved.
Before his arthritis got bad he hit it hard and heavy. When he did squats it looked like he invented the movement. Perfect form all the way.
Watching him squat barefoot with his heels on a 2x4 looked painful but his feet were like leather and pretty gross. I said his toenails looked like sawblades.
He always trained barefoot.
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Sergio had a falling out with the Weider's over many things but it started with Sergio's early demands for $$$ from photos and the communication barrier due to Sergio's poor English. Sergio didn't trust anyone and especially since he was new to this country. I guess he thought everyone was out to screw him.
Then Sergio did some unsanctioned competitions and they decided to ban him from the IFBB during his peak. I think this was a bad decision for everyone involved but Weider went on to make his fortune while Sergio was pounding the beat as a cop and making very little off his name. In the 70s Weider used to call Sergio at Chicago Health Club and Sergio would come to the front desk and when he found out it was Joe, he'd hang up on him. They finally agreed to get together in the mid 80s and I know Sergio was embarrassed with his placing in the 85 Olympia.
I remember when I was training with Sergio a new Muscle and Fitness Magazine came out and it had what was supposed to be Sergio's workout routine. It said that Sergio didn't do bench press and that was on a day we were benching. I showed him the article and he laughed. Laughed all the way to the bank. I really think the Weider's brought Sergio back to humiliate him and make as much off of his name as they could. He was very popular in New York.
I remember in 1989 when Weider came out with a new clothing line and some workout equipment they asked Sergio to make an appearance at Fox Valley Mall in Illinois. I went with him and a limo picked us up. For this appearance Sergio was only paid $500. This is to a guy who received $3,000 for an appearance in the 60s. Sad but true.
He was offered a part by Arnold in Predator but made too many demands and wanted too much money so they told him to forget about it. They found another bald black actor for a lot less. Sergio did several Spanish Movies. One was Called El Pader Negro or something close to that. I never saw any of them but I hear they're pretty bad. I'm sure you can find them in a Spanish Video Store, if you really want to have a laugh.
To the guy that had dinner with Sergio, I'll bet there was a mess on the table after dinner. I ate with him too many times and it always looked like a bear invaded a picnic. He never believed in tipping either so I was always afraid to return to a restaurant with him for fear or receiving a saliva or snot burger.
I know he never really thought much of Lee Haney and always commented on how he liked Shawn Ray. I remember Albert Beckles visiting the gym once and Sergio was off in the corner laughing at how small guys in the Olympia were. the stories were never ending.
I don't know what brought Sergio to Chicago from Florida but it was probably for opportunity.
The Myth was a name he was given since no one really believed that there was a guy this big. His arms measured larger in diameter than his head.
Larry Scott didn't like Sergio or what he brought to the sport but you can't please everyone.
Sergio won the Mr America uncontested. He had to enter contests at the last minute or under another name since no one wanted to go up against the MYTH. I remember that he told me the competitions he did in Mexico were a joke and the guys were real small. He easily received 200 trophy's and some are truly amazing, made of marble and brass with horse drawn chariots. Nice stuff compared to the shit they hand out now.
Too bad he missed out on the best years of his life, married a goofy bitch and things went the way they did. History of the sport may have been different had he just went along for the ride. He always said Arnold was a lucky son-of-a-bitch. I think it was a lot more than luck.
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I love the handful-of-orals look. 8)
When I take 20mgs of Superdrol I feel like I'm Sergio or something. But then after a few days my trunk hurts so badly I can't continue... wish orals didn't kill your insides because I'd take handfuls of them everyday if that were the case.
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I don't believe that Sergio was ever foolish enough to take handfuls of anything. I used to inject him and also get him a lot of his supplies but I never ever remember him abusing drugs. He was against that sort of use and considering what it did to his joints, he's against them now more than ever.
I'm not sure of Sergio's competitive weight and some of the stories about him are made up but the one in Mexico wouldn't surprise me if it were true. Sergio was never afraid of competition since he was a true champ. He was also arrogant and that pissed a lot of people off.
Arnold could have never beat him in a fair and square show that had politics removed.
I once asked Sergio if he thought Arnold would have beaten Lee Haney if both were in their prime and he said Arnold would have easily taken him. Sergio liked Arnold and I never heard him say a bad word about him. You can't blame Arnold for the the actions of Joe and Ben Weider. It was only business.
In 1989 Arnold invited Sergio to be a VIP Guest the the first Arnold Classic in Ohio and Sergio went and had a great time.
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That is cool. I always figured they didn't like each other.
Not sure about the "Arnold could have never beat him in a fair show" part though.
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That is cool. I always figured they didn't like each other.
Yeah I thought that was some really interesting information. And if you read the whole thread (where the quotes come from), this guy is a credible source.
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no no no... there's a huge difference between undermining his accomplishments and KNOWING he trained to the limit... and focusing on the drugs he used.
If anyone undermines his lifting record and how he trained, he's a fucking idiot.
Truth. The dude was bad back in his day.
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Sergio before he took up bodybuilding:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/19vajq.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0YAZMKH5g4I/RmZcdLuCG5I/AAAAAAAAAzw/AZ0n5ENnaP4/s400/9a318-SERGIO_OLIVA.jpg)
After:
great shots-intense story how he defected from Cuba-I read his book
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funny just saw article on 'crazy'benny podda they said he would eat a pie in middle workouts and go right back to lifting,,,
Powerlifters do shit like that. Fast food in the gym with Jolt cola, etc, etc....
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Do you for one minute think that Sergio would allow anyone to put a gun to his head to make him train harder?
sergio would've slowly taken that gun away, crushed it to dust in his hand, blew the dust on arthurs face and said "now git me mah panakaka, bitsh"
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Sergio before he took up bodybuilding:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/19vajq.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0YAZMKH5g4I/RmZcdLuCG5I/AAAAAAAAAzw/AZ0n5ENnaP4/s400/9a318-SERGIO_OLIVA.jpg)
After:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=416308.0;attach=458649;image)
Still an amazing pic to this day!
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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/oliva/so193.jpg)
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/oliva/so193.jpg
any questions??
Ironically, Sergio would have been a prime target for HGH, midgets were first in line for Government handouts of the stuff, how do you think Lee got started on it so young.
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Ironically, Sergio would have been a prime target for HGH, midgets were first in line for Government handouts of the stuff, how do you think Lee got started on it so young.
Sergio was like 5'10.
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Sergio was like 5'10.
5'7 at best - bodbuilders lie through there teeth
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5'7 at best - bodbuilders lie through there teeth
Arnold was what.... like 6'2 ?
(http://www.rippedworkouts.guy.jpg)