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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2016, 05:52:42 AM »
White House Caught Secretly Airlifting $1.7 Billion US Taxpayer Cash To Tehran
Zerohedge.com ^ | 2 August, 2016 | Tyler Durden
Posted on 8/3/2016, 2:59:22 AM by ScaniaBoy

What Donald Trump has proclaimed the worst deal ever made, may just have become worst-er. The shocking truth behind the US-Iran nuclear deal, as WSJ reports, is that John Kerry and the Obama Administration airlifted $1.7bn of cash in 'compromise' payments (read - bribe) to Tehran to ensure the release of 4 captured sailors coincidentally the same weekend as the signing of the nuclear deal.

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Of course, senior U.S. officials denied any link between the payment and the prisoner exchange. They say the way the various strands came together simultaneously was coincidental, not the result of any quid pro quo.

But U.S. officials also acknowledge that Iranian negotiators on the prisoner exchange said they wanted the cash to show they had gained something tangible.

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And now comes the big test of the mainstream media in America - can they stop discussing Trump and Khizr Kahn for long enough to question the deliberate obfuscation of facts in yet another foreign policy snafu by the administration?

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2016, 09:16:14 AM »
Chairman Royce on Reports That Obama Secretly Sent $400M to Iran: ‘It Keeps Getting Worse’
CNS News ^ | August 03, 2016 | By Patrick Goodenough
Posted on 8/3/2016, 12:03:43 PM by Mr. Mojo

CNSNews.com) – Republicans lashed out Tuesday at the Obama administration over a news report claiming it airlifted $400 million in foreign currency to Tehran on the same day the regime released five imprisoned Americans.

On that day in January, the U.S. agreed to settle a 37-year-old Iranian legal claim worth $400 million, plus an additional $1.3 billion in interest. The two developments also coincided with the “implementation day” for the nuclear deal struck between Tehran, the U.S. and five other nations.

The administration has long denied that the $1.7 billion settlement was related to the prisoner releases, or that it amounted to a “ransom.”

The Wall Street Journal reported that the cash, in European and other currencies, was secretly flown to Iran on wooden pallets in an unmarked cargo plane, and that it was a first instalment of the agreed-upon $1.7 billion payout.

Citing U.S. and European officials and congressional staffers who had been briefed later, it said the U.S. had sent the equivalent of $400 million to the Dutch and Swiss central banks, where it was converted and provided in foreign currency, then flown to Iran.

The report quoted State Department spokesman John Kirby as reiterating the administration’s denial of any link between the payment and release of the imprisoned Americans.

The two negotiations, he said, “were completely separate” and were also handled by different teams.

House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Rep. Ed Royce (R-Calif.) wondered Tuesday what else the administration has not revealed regarding its dealings with Iran.

“The logistics of this payment – literally delivering a plane full of cash to evade U.S. law – shows yet again the extraordinary lengths the Obama administration will go to accommodate Iran, all while hiding the facts from Congress and the American people,” he said.

“Hundreds of millions in the pockets of a terrorist regime means a more dangerous region, period. And paying ransom only puts more American lives in jeopardy,” Royce said. “We already know the Iran nuclear deal was a historic mistake. It keeps getting worse. What else is the Obama administration hiding?”

On February 3, Royce asked Secretary of State John Kerry in writing for details about the $1.7 billion payment to Iran.

After receiving – a month and a half later – what he characterized as an “incomplete” response from assistant secretary for legislative affairs Julia Frifield, Royce sent Kerry another letter, asking again for details, including “detailed information as to how this $1.7 billion payment was processed and delivered to Iran.”

Royce said Tuesday he has yet to hear back from the State Department in response to his second letter.

(Royce wanted details about exactly how payment was made, in part, because of concerns about Iranian access to the U.S. financial system and ability to conduct business in U.S. dollars. According to the WSJ report, the cash received by Tehran was all in foreign currency.)

Most of Frifield’s letter to Royce last March comprised background on the Iranian legal claim, which arose from weapons supply agreements struck shortly before the fundamentalist clerical regime took over in 1979.

Her three-page letter did not once mention the release of the imprisoned Americans – despite Royce having asked about that at some length.

‘Tough, principled diplomacy’

The Americans released at the same time as the nuclear deal took effect and the payment was made were Washington Post reporter Jason Rezaian, who had been convicted of espionage; Pastor Saeed Abedini, serving an eight-year term after being convicted of “crimes against national security”; former U.S. Marine Amir Hekmati, sentenced to death (later overturned) for spying; researcher Matthew Trevithick; and an Iranian-American, Nosratollah Khosravi-Roodsari.

Kerry at the time strongly denied that the payment and releases were linked.

He told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer the claim payout was “completely separate from what we were doing with respect to the nuclear agreement,” and that the nuclear deal and the prisoner release were “not linked distinctly.”

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), who appeared on Blitzer’s show after Kerry, wondered whether the $1.7 billion payout was “just part of the ransom that we had to pay to get innocent Americans back from Iranian captivity.”

Two days later, the head of Iran’s Basij militia said in a speech that the U.S. had agreed to pay the money to buy freedom for what the semi-official Fars news agency called “its spies held by Iran.”

Fars headlined its report, “Basij Commander: U.S. Bought Freedom of Spies by Releasing $1.7 bln of Iran’s Frozen Assets.”

White House press secretary Josh Earnest, asked at a briefing at the time whether it was “an absolute coincidence that this payment just happened to coincide with the precise moment when the American prisoners were flying to freedom,” replied that implementation of the nuclear deal had “created a series of diplomatic opportunities for the United States that we’ve capitalized on.”

“And we used that opening and we used that deeper diplomatic engagement to secure the release of five American citizens who are being unjustly held inside of Iran,” Earnest said.

“And we used that diplomatic opening to resolve a longstanding financial claim that the Iranians had against the United States.”

Earnest during that press briefing used the adjectives “tough [and] principled” seven times to describe the administration’s diplomacy regarding Iran.

On Tuesday Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), another arch-critic of the administration’s Iran policy, said in a tweet that “ince Obama paid ransom to Iran at least two more Americans [have been] taken hostage.”

Robin Reza Shahini of San Diego, Calif. was detained while visiting his mother in Iran. Baquer Namazi, an 80-year-old Iranian-American citizen was reportedly arrested in Tehran in February.

Still unaccounted-for is the former FBI agent, Robert Levinson, who went missing in Iran nine years ago.

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2016, 09:21:51 AM »
400 bucks?!?!?!

Seriously just kidding.

Sounds a lot like Iran Contra... except it was only money instead of arms.

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2016, 09:24:40 AM »
400 bucks?!?!?!

Seriously just kidding.

Sounds a lot like Iran Contra... except it was only money instead of arms.

Obama lied about this as well. 

I know his cult of a-hole apologists wont care, but its cool. 

Remember - this is not only arms for hostages - O-fag also gave them nukes and 150 billion in sanction relief. 


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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2016, 09:29:11 AM »
Obama lied about this as well. 

I know his cult of a-hole apologists wont care, but its cool. 

Remember - this is not only arms for hostages - O-fag also gave them nukes and 150 billion in sanction relief. 



Serious question... Do you think they wouldn't have developed nukes on their own? The alternative would have been to wipe the country out with the military.

Would that have been the way to handle this entire situation? I don't know if I had a better answer to be honest. Sanctions weren't really doing much, they were still developing.

At this point, what would you have done?

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2016, 09:49:13 AM »
Serious question... Do you think they wouldn't have developed nukes on their own? The alternative would have been to wipe the country out with the military.

Would that have been the way to handle this entire situation? I don't know if I had a better answer to be honest. Sanctions weren't really doing much, they were still developing.

At this point, what would you have done?

So they are still developing , but 150 billion richer now cause of obama


Awesome deal for them right?


I would have kept the sanctions and told them to go fuck themselves. 

They dont need nukes for energy - they want it for war.  Why would we help them in that unless you are someone so committed to islamic supremacy as Imam Obama is?   

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2016, 12:01:37 PM »
So they are still developing , but 150 billion richer now cause of obama


Awesome deal for them right?


I would have kept the sanctions and told them to go fuck themselves. 

They dont need nukes for energy - they want it for war.  Why would we help them in that unless you are someone so committed to islamic supremacy as Imam Obama is?   

In not disagreeing. Really.

I'm asking if they would have developed the nuclear capabilities anyway.

I have read, perhaps incorrectly, that they were not far from developing that ability anyway.

So what do we do? Keep blowing their country up? Get involved in another war?

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2016, 12:05:30 PM »
In not disagreeing. Really.

I'm asking if they would have developed the nuclear capabilities anyway.

I have read, perhaps incorrectly, that they were not far from developing that ability anyway.

So what do we do? Keep blowing their country up? Get involved in another war?

At minimum not give them 150 billion would be my thought. 

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2016, 05:34:18 AM »
"The White House has been forced to come out today and publicly deny reports that they paid a $400 million “ransom” to the Iranian government for the release of five American prisoners, as part of a prisoner swap in January, noting that the payment was coincidental and unrelated to the prisoner releases.

The Wall Street Journal made the allegations today, claiming the US had “secretly airlifted” the money, a fact which sparked furious condemnations form a number of Republican leaders, who insisted it proved that the prisoner exchange was unacceptable.

In reality the $400 million was a payment related to the rulings of the Hague Tribunal related to the US breaking contracts with the Iranian military after the Iranian Revolution, and never refunding them some $400 million they’d paid for military equipment a generation ago, which America never sent.

Though it’s been presented as “taxpayers’ money” in several reports, and even the State Department statement presented it as a savings that they made a deal to avoid paying interest, the $400 million itself never belonged to the American taxpayers, and was rather a payment for services never rendered.


The White House did confirm the money was airlifted to Iran to pay the Tribunal ruling, because the US has no banking ties with Iran and thus no other way to make such a payment, but that appears to be the only part of the Journal story that was accurate. The transfer wasn’t secret, either, with the State Department issuing a press statement that day affirming the transfer and the reason for it.

The fact that it happened at roughly the same time as the prisoner exchange reflects that both happened amid improving US relations with Iran after the P5+1 nuclear deal, though it appears likely this will remain a campaign issue, despite the facts not supporting the “ransom” theory, since so many in Congress are eager to present any deal with Iran under any circumstances as untoward and part of some broader plot."


http://news.antiwar.com/2016/08/03/white-house-payment-to-iran-unrelated-to-prisoner-release-not-a-ransom/

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iran-nuclear-talks/400m-payment-iran-americans-freed-not-ransom-white-house-n622196




"The United States and Iran today have settled a long outstanding claim at the Iran-U.S. Claims Tribunal in the Hague.

This specific claim was in the amount of a $400 million Trust Fund used by Iran to purchase military equipment from the United States prior to the break in diplomatic ties. In 1981, with the reaching of the Algiers Accords and the creation of the Iran-U.S. Claims Tribunal, Iran filed a claim for these funds, tying them up in litigation at the Tribunal.

This is the latest of a series of important settlements reached over the past 35 years at the Hague Tribunal. In constructive bilateral discussions, we arrived at a fair settlement to this claim, which due to litigation risk, remains in the best interests of the United States.

Iran will receive the balance of $400 million in the Trust Fund, as well as a roughly $1.3 billion compromise on the interest. Iran’s recovery was fixed at a reasonable rate of interest and therefore Iran is unable to pursue a bigger Tribunal award against us, preventing U.S. taxpayers from being obligated to a larger amount of money.

All of the approximately 4,700 private U.S. claims filed against the Government of Iran at the Tribunal were resolved during the first 20 years of the Tribunal, resulting in payments of more than $2.5 billion in awards to U.S. nationals and companies through that process.

There are still outstanding Tribunal claims, mostly by Iran against the U.S. We will continue efforts to address these claims appropriately."

http://m.state.gov/md251338.htm

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2016, 07:05:37 AM »
Thats the spin of the obama admn

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2016, 07:12:55 AM »
EDITORIAL

When Obama does it, it’s not ransoming hostages, it’s just coincidence

By Post Editorial Board August 3, 2016 | 8:32pm

Modal Trigger When Obama does it, it’s not ransoming hostages, it’s just coincidence

Photo: AP

It’s not paying ransom if President Obama is the one flying hundreds of millions in cold, hard cash to Tehran to grease the release of American hostages.

That’s the White House line, anyway.

Press Secretary Josh Earnest spent 20 minutes Wednesday trying to throw cold water on bombshell Wall Street Journal reporting on the $400 million in euros and other hard currency flown aboard an unmarked cargo plane on the day of January’s hostage release — over fierce Justice Department objections.

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Yes, Obama did announce that, as part of his dubious nuclear deal with Tehran, he’d agreed to settle an old Iranian claim for $400 million, plus $1.3 billion in interest.

But what he never told the American people — and what his administration deliberately withheld from Congress — was all the sordid details.

Like the cash airlift — a payoff landed the very day four innocent American captives were freed by Tehran (which also got back seven Iranian criminals).

Earnest called the timing a coincidence.

Never mind that the talks for a prisoner swap were stalled until Washington agreed to the payout. Or that Iranian Revolutionary Guard commanders boasted openly they’d coerced the money “for the release of the American spies.”

Sure sounds like a ransom payment to us.

Paying ransoms effectively puts a price on the head of every American. That’s why Iran is busy re-stocking its supply of US hostages — with three more recently taken captive and another, former FBI agent Bob Levinson, still unaccounted for.

Team Obama defends it as just another part of its supposed shift in relations with Iran — all centered on the nuclear deal, the cornerstone of Obama’s foreign-policy legacy (and fully backed by Hillary Clinton).

Yet the deal looks ever worse as more facts roll out — like the secret side deal that leaves Iran far closer to a nuclear bomb than Obama has been claiming.

Looks, in fact, like one of the most shameful accords in US history.

For all the phony narratives the White House spun to sneak the deal past Congress, polls show the American people have never supported it. When will Democrats admit they made a horrible mistake?

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2016, 07:41:57 AM »
"The White House has been forced to come out today and publicly deny reports that they paid a $400 million “ransom” to the Iranian government for the release of five American prisoners, as part of a prisoner swap in January, noting that the payment was coincidental and unrelated to the prisoner releases.

The Wall Street Journal made the allegations today, claiming the US had “secretly airlifted” the money, a fact which sparked furious condemnations form a number of Republican leaders, who insisted it proved that the prisoner exchange was unacceptable.

In reality the $400 million was a payment related to the rulings of the Hague Tribunal related to the US breaking contracts with the Iranian military after the Iranian Revolution, and never refunding them some $400 million they’d paid for military equipment a generation ago, which America never sent.

Though it’s been presented as “taxpayers’ money” in several reports, and even the State Department statement presented it as a savings that they made a deal to avoid paying interest, the $400 million itself never belonged to the American taxpayers, and was rather a payment for services never rendered.


The White House did confirm the money was airlifted to Iran to pay the Tribunal ruling, because the US has no banking ties with Iran and thus no other way to make such a payment, but that appears to be the only part of the Journal story that was accurate. The transfer wasn’t secret, either, with the State Department issuing a press statement that day affirming the transfer and the reason for it.

The fact that it happened at roughly the same time as the prisoner exchange reflects that both happened amid improving US relations with Iran after the P5+1 nuclear deal, though it appears likely this will remain a campaign issue, despite the facts not supporting the “ransom” theory, since so many in Congress are eager to present any deal with Iran under any circumstances as untoward and part of some broader plot."


http://news.antiwar.com/2016/08/03/white-house-payment-to-iran-unrelated-to-prisoner-release-not-a-ransom/

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iran-nuclear-talks/400m-payment-iran-americans-freed-not-ransom-white-house-n622196




"The United States and Iran today have settled a long outstanding claim at the Iran-U.S. Claims Tribunal in the Hague.

This specific claim was in the amount of a $400 million Trust Fund used by Iran to purchase military equipment from the United States prior to the break in diplomatic ties. In 1981, with the reaching of the Algiers Accords and the creation of the Iran-U.S. Claims Tribunal, Iran filed a claim for these funds, tying them up in litigation at the Tribunal.

This is the latest of a series of important settlements reached over the past 35 years at the Hague Tribunal. In constructive bilateral discussions, we arrived at a fair settlement to this claim, which due to litigation risk, remains in the best interests of the United States.

Iran will receive the balance of $400 million in the Trust Fund, as well as a roughly $1.3 billion compromise on the interest. Iran’s recovery was fixed at a reasonable rate of interest and therefore Iran is unable to pursue a bigger Tribunal award against us, preventing U.S. taxpayers from being obligated to a larger amount of money.

All of the approximately 4,700 private U.S. claims filed against the Government of Iran at the Tribunal were resolved during the first 20 years of the Tribunal, resulting in payments of more than $2.5 billion in awards to U.S. nationals and companies through that process.

There are still outstanding Tribunal claims, mostly by Iran against the U.S. We will continue efforts to address these claims appropriately."

http://m.state.gov/md251338.htm


I see. So it was just a coincidence that the hostages were released at almost the exact time the payment was made.

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2016, 07:45:18 AM »
"State Department spokesman John Kirby joined Bill Hemmer on "America's Newsroom" to defend a $400 million cash transfer to Iran during the release of four Iranian-held U.S. hostages.
Kirby said the money had been frozen in a trust fund in the U.S. for decades and it was "their money.""

"While the timing could appear to have been a suspiciously coordinated quid pro quo, the evidence points to a paper trail of years of exhaustive hearings and highly sensitive negotiations that were completely separate from the January 2016 prisoner exchange.  While the timing could appear to have been a suspiciously coordinated quid pro quo, the evidence points to a paper trail of years of exhaustive hearings and highly sensitive negotiations that were completely separate from the January 2016 prisoner exchange."


http://www.snopes.com/obama-bribed-iran-400-million-to-release-u-s-prisoners/

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2016, 07:48:10 AM »
"State Department spokesman John Kirby joined Bill Hemmer on "America's Newsroom" to defend a $400 million cash transfer to Iran during the release of four Iranian-held U.S. hostages.
Kirby said the money had been frozen in a trust fund in the U.S. for decades and it was "their money.""

"While the timing could appear to have been a suspiciously coordinated quid pro quo, the evidence points to a paper trail of years of exhaustive hearings and highly sensitive negotiations that were completely separate from the January 2016 prisoner exchange.  While the timing could appear to have been a suspiciously coordinated quid pro quo, the evidence points to a paper trail of years of exhaustive hearings and highly sensitive negotiations that were completely separate from the January 2016 prisoner exchange."


http://www.snopes.com/obama-bribed-iran-400-million-to-release-u-s-prisoners/



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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2016, 08:56:13 AM »
"State Department spokesman John Kirby joined Bill Hemmer on "America's Newsroom" to defend a $400 million cash transfer to Iran during the release of four Iranian-held U.S. hostages.
Kirby said the money had been frozen in a trust fund in the U.S. for decades and it was "their money.""

"While the timing could appear to have been a suspiciously coordinated quid pro quo, the evidence points to a paper trail of years of exhaustive hearings and highly sensitive negotiations that were completely separate from the January 2016 prisoner exchange.  While the timing could appear to have been a suspiciously coordinated quid pro quo, the evidence points to a paper trail of years of exhaustive hearings and highly sensitive negotiations that were completely separate from the January 2016 prisoner exchange."


http://www.snopes.com/obama-bribed-iran-400-million-to-release-u-s-prisoners/

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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2016, 08:56:46 AM »
"Snopes"

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2016, 08:57:52 AM »
I see. So it was just a coincidence that the hostages were released at almost the exact time the payment was made.

....You address the snope post but seemed to ignore this.

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2016, 09:01:44 AM »
....You address the snope post but seemed to ignore this.

The snopes post addressed that. You have chosen to dismiss it.

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2016, 10:28:14 AM »
OBAMA ILLEGALLY AIRLIFTED $400 MILLION IN CASH TO IRAN IN UNMARKED PLANE
FrontPage Magazine ^ | August 3, 2016 | Daniel Greenfield
Posted on 8/4/2016, 1:16:26 PM by george76

Funding Iran directly funds terrorism because the Iranian regime is effectively a terror state. Back in the Senate, Obama fought against the classification of the Revolutionary Guard, a key Iranian political-military institution, as terrorists. He's remained consistent since then.

3. This is simply treason. Obama is aiding and abetting the murder of Americans. He's funding terrorism. He's funding Iran's wars in the region, which aside from Israel, include campaigns in Iraq and Syria that have dragged the United States in.

The Obama administration secretly organized an airlift of $400 million worth of cash to Iran that coincided with the January release of four Americans detained in Tehran, according to U.S. and European officials and congressional staff briefed on the operation afterward.

Wooden pallets stacked with euros, Swiss francs and other currencies were flown into Iran on an unmarked cargo plane, according to these officials. The U.S. procured the money from the central banks of the Netherlands and Switzerland, they said.

Note the secretive Air America type tactics.

Since the cash shipment, the intelligence arm of the Revolutionary Guard has arrested two more Iranian-Americans. Tehran has also detained dual-nationals from France, Canada and the U.K. in recent months.

...

Obama picked up foreign money from foreign banks, put them in an unmarked cargo plane and then flew them to Iran. This is not the normative way of transferring money to foreign governments.

This is the way criminals operate. Criminals like Obama.

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Iranian press reports have quoted senior Iranian defense officials describing the cash as a ransom payment.

And the best part is it was illegal...

The $400 million was paid in foreign currency because any transaction with Iran in U.S. dollars is illegal under U.S. law.

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2016, 10:32:46 AM »
Trump lied today.  Said he saw the plane giving large amounts of money to the iraqis.

Just had to invent a "me too!" moment.  There is no such video.  Must be the magic TV that let him see "thousands of cheering arabs in NJ" on 9/11.


Hilary isn't involved in this one, and she is making it clear "what I was told" and "as far as I can see".   But, it'll take 3 minutes for repubs to find a way to blame her for some shit that took places years after she left her job.

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2016, 10:33:46 AM »
Nothing this administration does surprises me.  Takes an awful lot of denial to believe this was just a coincidence.

I heard a commentator make a good point:  it doesn't matter what we call it, what matters is what Iran calls it.  They are calling it a ransom.  Dangerous precedent.  

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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2016, 10:43:13 AM »
In more than 13,000 days to choose from since 1979, we are supposed to believe that on the exact day that 4 American hostages are released that it just happened to be the day that we send $400 million in cash in the dead of night, in secret, via an unmarked aircraft, to pay some bullshit debt to the biggest state sponsor of terrorism in the world, just so we could save some money. And how dare we imply that the two things could possibly be related.
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Re: Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2016, 10:43:58 AM »
It was their money. Is it even possible to pay a ransom with money that was theirs in the first place?