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BP well stabilised, oil stopped
2010-05-27 15:59
New Orleans - Energy giant BP's "top kill" effort to plug its leaking well in the Gulf of Mexico has stopped oil and gas from coming up and "stabilised the well head," Coast Guard commandant Thad Allen said on Thursday.
"They've been able to stabilise the well head, they're pumping mud down it. They've stopped the hydrocarbons from coming up," Allen told WWL First News radio.
Allen's was the first positive official statement on BP's attempt to plug a well that has spewed millions of gallons of crude into the Gulf of Mexico, devastating environmentally fragile coastline.
Allen said it was too early to declare success but his was the first positive official assessment of BP's latest attempt to plug a well that has spewed millions of litres of crude into the Gulf of Mexico, devastating environmentally fragile coastline.
BP officials earlier said the operation was proceeding as expected, but they would not be able to say for much of the day whether it was working.
Teams were pumping heavy drilling mud into the well to try to push back the flow of oil and gas gushing out of a broke riser pipe on the seabed nearly a mile below the surface of the Gulf.
Then they plan to seal it with cement.
Allen said BP teams were in process of monitoring the mud that has been pumped into the well so far.
"And they are in a period of kind of wait and see right now where they see how the well stabilises," he said.
"But it is at this point where they have had some success overnight and they are prepared to put more mud down the wellboard if they need to. So everybody is cautiously optimistic but there is no reason to declare victory yet.
"We need to watch it very, very carefully," he said.
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Finally
After a billion gallons of oil came out. :P
And I'll say it. The question will be, "Did Obama let this go on too long without the gov't stepping in?"
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And I'll say it. The question will be, "Did Obama let this go on too long without the gov't stepping in?"
I contend that this administration didn't know what to do. What's more, shouldn't we find it interesting that this oil was GUSHING for over a month without any signs of letting up? But we don't want to drill for our own oil??? This is the first major oil rig incident over over 31 years. 31 years! Yet, there are those that say we shouldn't drill.
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Why not? Bush got blasted for the Govt taking THREE DAYS to get down to NO.
Obama blasted Bush for Katrina, so now he gets to live by the same sword he chose to swing back then.
Screw him, he made his bed and now has to sleep in it.
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Come on,NO ONE here hates Obama more then me.But what could he have done?Send in the government?They couldnt stop a drip in a faucet.They stayed away and its a good thing they did or this would have gone on for years.
Now,unlike others,I think Obama is pissed the well is plugged.This gave hoim room to bash oil companies for a few weeks.Now he has to find another straw man.
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Come on,NO ONE here hates Obama more then me.But what could he have done?Send in the government?They couldnt stop a drip in a faucet.They stayed away and its a good thing they did or this would have gone on for years.
Now,unlike others,I think Obama is pissed the well is plugged.This gave hoim room to bash oil companies for a few weeks.Now he has to find another straw man.
Billy - I think you and I are close on that bro.
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Massive failure on the govt. and BP's part. If this ends up working, I wonder why they didn't try this first instead of some stupid dome?
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It just shows the lack of foresight by both BP and the US Government to not have a solid set of contingency plans in case of emergency. Whether or not this is the first or hundredth disaster it is one too many. Ban all offshore drilling until they can consistently come up with fail safe plans and follow and enforce regulations. Until then no more drilling.
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Massive failure on the govt. and BP's part. If this ends up working, I wonder why they didn't try this first instead of some stupid dome?
I am in the Technical field that has much to do with equipment in oil and gas industry and I was horrified to learn at a conference last week that there is no contingency plan for blow outs at those depths.
The idea is that your equipment must have enough redundency and over compensation manufactured in to the "equation" that this should never happen.
And remember there are wells that drill even deeper than this!
They had to make up the rescue plan as they went along and the goverment would not have been able to do anything either.
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It just shows the lack of foresight by both BP and the US Government to not have a solid set of contingency plans in case of emergency. Whether or not this is the first or hundredth disaster it is one too many. Ban all offshore drilling until they can consistently come up with fail safe plans and follow and enforce regulations. Until then no more drilling.
If enviro kooks wouldnt force them to go out 65 miles into the sea and drill 5,000 ft down this would have been avoided.Let them drill closer to shore and a disaster like this can be avoided.However,when gas jumps to 7 dollars a gallon you will be the first one on here crying for the poor who cant drive cars to get to work because they cant afford gas.
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Whats' amazing is thatt he left wing fanatics expect us to trust the USD Govt to tackle so called "climate change" while they/it cant even take care of an oil spill.
Do you libs understand now why most people mock you loons?
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Come on,NO ONE here hates Obama more then me.But what could he have done?Send in the government?They couldnt stop a drip in a faucet.They stayed away and its a good thing they did or this would have gone on for years.
Now,unlike others,I think Obama is pissed the well is plugged.This gave hoim room to bash oil companies for a few weeks.Now he has to find another straw man.
Good points x 2 BILLY.
Coast Guard has been there the entire time... but BP was the company with the equipment that could reach a mile down. ANd yes, obama has to go back to trashing banks again.
Now, the Q also has to be asked... why the F won't Repubs let them raise the BP liability to 10 billion? Why are they leaving it at 75 mil?
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I was starting to worry about this oil leak becoming a problem ::)
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If enviro kooks wouldnt force them to go out 65 miles into the sea and drill 5,000 ft down this would have been avoided.Let them drill closer to shore and a disaster like this can be avoided.However,when gas jumps to 7 dollars a gallon you will be the first one on here crying for the poor who cant drive cars to get to work because they cant afford gas.
Well Billy that's assuming the oil is sufficient enough there to drill for in the first place, secondly if a disaster happens they have even less time than they currently do before it hits shore. Could you imagine the destruction this level of spill would cause if it were closer? I hate to think of it. You might say it'll be closer to shore so easier to fix, yeah okay ::) this disaster has proven both government and oil have plenty of ideas and respond oh so fast when faced with this type of issue.
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Well Billy that's assuming the oil is sufficient enough there to drill for in the first place, secondly if a disaster happens they have even less time than they currently do before it hits shore. Could you imagine the destruction this level of spill would cause if it were closer? I hate to think of it. You might say it'll be closer to shore so easier to fix, yeah okay ::) this disaster has proven both government and oil have plenty of ideas and respond oh so fast when faced with this type of issue.
From what I have heard/read the "top kill" procedure has been used before in much more shallow water and at a high success rate. The well being in the deeper water is why they were hesitant to try it, because they weren't sure it would work.
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From what I have heard/read the "top kill" procedure has been used before in much more shallow water and at a high success rate. The well being in the deeper water is why they were hesitant to try it, because they weren't sure it would work.
If they were close to shore the well would have been plugged in days not weeks.But leave it to enviro whack jobs to determine whats best.
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The envirofreaks have been utterly silent over this.
Its all politics over anything else with them.
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If they were close to shore the well would have been plugged in days not weeks.But leave it to enviro whack jobs to determine whats best.
Exactly.
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Oh please. It may have been plugged sooner but the leaking still would have effected the shore line a lot faster and hurt the environment just the same. Offshore drilling always will hold too greater risk and will never be full time solution to our energy needs.
Alternative sources and investment in their development is the only way to a) create large scale manufacturing jobs in the this country, b) stop our reliance on international oil and c) cut emissions to sustainable levels.
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You're a retard. You talk about not wanting to rely on international oil and then you cry about off-shore drilling. As if they're just going to pull an alternative energy source out of thin air.
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I contend that this administration didn't know what to do. What's more, shouldn't we find it interesting that this oil was GUSHING for over a month without any signs of letting up? But we don't want to drill for our own oil??? This is the first major oil rig incident over over 31 years. 31 years! Yet, there are those that say we shouldn't drill.
Actually Colossus that's not true. there have been plenty of oil rig incidents. they happen all the time, it's just that they're not close to us and they're not as heavily publicized. This was a sexy one because it was politicized, close to shore and had potential to devastate many industries. There have been worse disasters that simply didn't make the news.
It's absolutely ridiculous to be drilling without any contingency plans.
The difference between Bush's lack of response for 3 days and Obama's delay, is in NO people's lives were on the line. The entire city was crippled including emergency first responders, people were dying and any delay was the difference between life & death for many. the deep Water Horizon was in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico, other than the 11 who died in the explosion, no human lives were at risk, and most importantly, those deceitful MF'ers at BP lied about the seriousnessness of the spill. They downplayed it every step of the way.
If someone tells you you have a leaky faucet in your bathroom, you're not gonna necessarily rush home from work for a couple of drips a minute. If you knew the whole fixture had been blown off, and water was gushing out like Old Smokey, and the water could not be turned off, ...you might have a whole other sense of urgency.
Congrats to powerpack on the scoop. :D
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You're a retard. You talk about not wanting to rely on international oil and then you cry about off-shore drilling. As if they're just going to pull an alternative energy source out of thin air.
They don't have to pull an alternative energy source out of thin air, ...they can simply reach onto the shelf and take any one of the number of alternative energy sources that have been developed over the years and shelved at the behest of big oil.
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Yes, because we can expect that to happen, what with big oil money lining Obama's pockets. ::)
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Yes, because we can expect that to happen, what with big oil money lining Obama's pockets. ::)
LOL. I can see where you might have a point. this is the dilemma faced by every president.
Reminds me of a Jackie Chan move I saw the other day "The Spy Next Door".
Sometimes, it's enough to just kind of make you want to cheer for the Russians to win.
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Actually Colossus that's not true. there have been plenty of oil rig incidents. they happen all the time, it's just that they're not close to us and they're not as heavily publicized. This was a sexy one because it was politicized, close to shore and had potential to devastate many industries. There have been worse disasters that simply didn't make the news.
It's absolutely ridiculous to be drilling without any contingency plans.
The difference between Bush's lack of response for 3 days and Obama's delay, is in NO people's lives were on the line. The entire city was crippled including emergency first responders, people were dying and any delay was the difference between life & death for many. the deep Water Horizon was in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico, other than the 11 who died in the explosion, no human lives were at risk, and most importantly, those deceitful MF'ers at BP lied about the seriousnessness of the spill. They downplayed it every step of the way.
If someone tells you you have a leaky faucet in your bathroom, you're not gonna necessarily rush home from work for a couple of drips a minute. If you knew the whole fixture had been blown off, and water was gushing out like Old Smokey, and the water could not be turned off, ...you might have a whole other sense of urgency.
Congrats to powerpack on the scoop. :D
Off the coast of the US? I'm not sure you're correct on that, Jag. Go to itopf.com (http://itopf.com) and check out some of their information. I'm sure there's more out there, so I'll keep looking and post what I find.
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Off the cost of the US? I'm not sure you're correct on that, Jag. Go to itopf.com (http://itopf.com) and check out some of their information. I'm sure there's more out there, so I'll keep looking and post what I find.
Sorry Colossus, I don't understand what you're trying to say. Please clarify.
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Sorry Colossus, I don't understand what you're trying to say. Please clarify.
Just that the number of major oil spills in the US or off the coast of the US are few and far between. That website I linked keeps statistics on oil spills.
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Obama admitted today that we are years away from any alternative types of energy.
The shills for the magic alternative energy that secretely is supposed to exist in some bunker somewhere are so clueless that they would have us sleep in tents under candles if they could.
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Just that the number of major oil spills in the US or off the coast of the US are few and far between. That website I linked keeps statistics on oil spills.
Oh I see. When I said 'us', I mean us as in us (you & I), not US as in the United States.
I would have capitalized it if that were the case. There have been worse oil spills throughout the world,
...this may shape up as having the worst environmental & economical impact if Samson's article is correct that BP's use of a dispersant is only exascerbating the issue and making the environmental impact worse than it has to be.
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Obama admitted today that we are years away from any alternative types of energy.
The shills for the magic alternative energy that secretely is supposed to exist in some bunker somewhere are so clueless that they would have us sleep in tents under candles if they could.
We are only years away, because the proactive steps that should have been taken years ago were not.
Technologies were shelved at the behest of big oil. GM's decision to demolish the electric car is only the small tip of the iceberg. Who knows how much progress would have been made and how effectively and efficiently we could have transitioned to alternatively powered vehicles had GM not stood in the way. Additionally alternative fuels could also have been developed had big oil & OPEC not stood in the way. there are laws against cartels, ...yet for some reason OPEC, and deBoers are allowed to continue. funny how that works huh?
The time to put the condom on is before you have sex, ...not on baby's 1st birthday
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I contend that this administration didn't know what to do. What's more, shouldn't we find it interesting that this oil was GUSHING for over a month without any signs of letting up? But we don't want to drill for our own oil??? This is the first major oil rig incident over over 31 years. 31 years! Yet, there are those that say we shouldn't drill.
fine drill baby drill, but could we at least require them to install a safety shutoff on these fuckers just in case? Or would that be to much big government ::)
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Don't know where you got the info about the well being stopped, but just heard BP admit the project FAILED. So the well is still leaking
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Don't know where you got the info about the well being stopped, but just heard BP admit the project FAILED. So the well is still leaking
yea, that's the info today. They did intially say it worked but I guess that was BS.
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Are they still drilling relief wells?
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seems simple to me but...
shouldn't these wells be lined with some sorta explosive around them so that when and if something like this happens a quick "boom" and the well collapses in on itself and plugs itself shut
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seems simple to me but...
shouldn't these wells be lined with some sorta explosive around them so that when and if something like this happens a quick "boom" and the well collapses in on itself and plugs itself shut
They have emergency shutoff mechanisms that are installed on many of these kind of wells. But they didn't install it with this rig. The cost they saved by not installing the shutoff is approximately equivalent to what it would cost a middle class worker to buy a few grains of rice, almost nothing....
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Obama hates the white man. >:(
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They have emergency shutoff mechanisms that are installed on many of these kind of wells. But they didn't install it with this rig. The cost they saved by not installing the shutoff is approximately equivalent to what it would cost a middle class worker to buy a few grains of rice, almost nothing....
damn..thankgod we as a family r not BP anymore...
the stories my dad tells me...for example...FOR YEARS....the environmental workers in the DC area and the lawyers that are supposed to be on the side of the environment (notabily ..attorney Harry Storm...famous DC lawyer) have been vacationing all over the world in luxury resorts on BPs dime...BP even has a place on the strip in vegas for such...
back in 2002 my brother and i took a cruise to mexico on BPs dime....
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Matt Simmons Tells Bloomberg Only Way To Contain Oil Leak Is With Small Nuclear Bombs, "Top Kill" Is Just A Distraction Submitted by Tyler Durden
In his May 28th interview with Bloomberg's Mark Crumpton and Lori Rothman, Matt Simmons of energy investment bank Simmons & Company, provides some stunning revelations on what is really occurring in the Gulf of Mexico, and proposes that the only effective way to contain the leak is to relieve BP, bring in the military, and do what the Russians have done on comparable occasions, namely explode nuclear weapons within the wellbore. Simmons knows what he is talking about.
As Jim Bianco points out: "Matt Simmons gained fame with his book 2005 Twilight in the Desert where he claimed that the Saudis were overstating their oil output because they hit “peak oil.” Right or wrong Simmons claimed the price of oil was going to skyrocket and three years after the book’s release the crude oil hit $147/Barrel. In January 2009 the WSJ called Simmons one of the five most important voices in the oil industry.
Simmons has been wrong in the past and his views are non-conventional and often correct. Simmons is also highly connected within the oil industry so he knows who to talk to verify his claims." In addition to his radical solution, Simmons also points out that "Top Kill" is a sideshow and the real problem is 5 to 7 miles away, where a second fissure is "releasing a plume the size of Delaware and Maryland combined." If Simmons is indeed right, and the only recourse left to Obama is to nuke the seabed, the repercussions for his already shaky political situation will be tremendous.
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nuke = turn the ocean floor instantly to glass = no more spillage
but the environmental whining bitches will have a fit
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nuke = turn the ocean floor instantly to glass = no more spillage
but the environmental whining bitches will have a fit
A nuclear bomb detonated in the ocean does NOT turn the ocean floor into glass. the procedure for using small nuclear charges was developed by the Russians and its whole goal is to cause a catastrophic collapse in and around the well in hopes of plugging it up. A very drastic way of dealing with the problem if i must say so myself. I guess in the case of teh Gulf of Mexico it is a choice between the nuke and its radiological fallout or the oil and its chemical fallout....both of which are deadly/toxic/dangerous to everything and everyone in the area.
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A nuclear bomb detonated in the ocean does NOT turn the ocean floor into glass. the procedure for using small nuclear charges was developed by the Russians and its whole goal is to cause a catastrophic collapse in and around the well in hopes of plugging it up. A very drastic way of dealing with the problem if i must say so myself. I guess in the case of teh Gulf of Mexico it is a choice between the nuke and its radiological fallout or the oil and its chemical fallout....both of which are deadly/toxic/dangerous to everything and everyone in the area.
well then point at lazer at it....and melt the surrounding material
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A nuclear bomb detonated in the ocean does NOT turn the ocean floor into glass. the procedure for using small nuclear charges was developed by the Russians and its whole goal is to cause a catastrophic collapse in and around the well in hopes of plugging it up. A very drastic way of dealing with the problem if i must say so myself. I guess in the case of teh Gulf of Mexico it is a choice between the nuke and its radiological fallout or the oil and its chemical fallout....both of which are deadly/toxic/dangerous to everything and everyone in the area.
Did the Russians do it this deep, though.
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I can just see it now... the military nukes the ocean floor.... and the resulting tsunami devastates and drowns New Orleans again, ...as well as Mississippi, Texas, Florida, Mexico & Cuba. Oy what a mess!
They may as well change the name right now from the Deep Water Horizon to Obama's Waterloo Hell.
I'm glad then Prime Minister Trudeau kicked BP out of Canada in the 70's and nationalized all their gas stations.
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I can just see it now... the military nukes the ocean floor.... and the resulting tsunami devastates and drowns New Orleans again, ...as well as Mississippi, Texas, Florida, Mexico & Cuba. Oy what a mess!
good gawd judi...nukes dont cause tsunamis...its a simple matter of not enough water displacement....
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good gawd judi...nukes dont cause tsunamis...its a simple matter of not enough water displacement....
There's nothing simple when it comes to nukes... especially when it comes to nukes.
When I picture a big explosion under the sea, ...I see giant waves coming ashore. :-\
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There's nothing simple when it comes to nukes... especially when it comes to nukes.
When I picture a big explosion under the sea, ...I see giant waves coming ashore. :-\
actually tsunamis are cause by ..like lets say a 10 inch vertical displacement in the sea floor over an area of 500 miles...or something to that effect
as the wave reaches shallower waters it reaches height...in the open ocean..its only a few centimeters high
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actually tsunamis are cause by ..like lets say a 10 inch vertical displacement in the sea floor over an area of 500 miles...or something to that effect
as the wave reaches shallower waters it reaches height...in the open ocean..its only a few centimeters high
For the sake of those in the coastal regions of the US, Mexico & Cuba, ...I hope you're right. :-\