A message from the head of the CDC

[Coach is Back!]

BOOM!!!!!

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-director-acknowledges-hospitals-have-a-monetary-incentive-to-overcount-coronavirus-deaths

[visualizeperfection]

I think we have known that.

[Pray_4_War]

I think we have known that.

Democrats seemed to think it was a conspiracy theory when Jim Jordan was talking about it.

[Royalty]

I think we have known that.

But now we know that they know.

[IroNat]

Follow the money.

[lightweight83]

Does ANYONE on this site know someone who has died, or even know someone who know's someone who has died? 

I work with approximately 500 other employees and a bunch of us were talking about it the other day.  Not a single person I work with even knows someone (relative, friend,whatever) who knows someone who has died from this nonsense. 

[IroNat]

Does ANYONE on this site know someone who has died, or even know someone who know's someone who has died? 

I work with approximately 500 other employees and a bunch of us were talking about it the other day.  Not a single person I work with even knows someone (relative, friend,whatever) who knows someone who has died from this nonsense. 

A few people.  All with other serious health conditions.

[joswift]

Guy I work with, his dad died 93 in a care home

[Tapeworm]

Guy I work with, his dad died 93 in a care home

Senseless loss.

[Mr Anabolic]

Does ANYONE on this site know someone who has died, or even know someone who know's someone who has died? 

I work with approximately 500 other employees and a bunch of us were talking about it the other day.  Not a single person I work with even knows someone (relative, friend,whatever) who knows someone who has died from this nonsense.

Not under 75 years old. 

This thing has been a hoax/scam from the start. 

My best friend is an RN supervisor in a big hospital in downtown Philly.  He told me there were toe tagging ppl that died from other causes as dying from Covid since March.  They receive $30,000 for each Covid death.

The health care system is a fucking SCAM.  Hospitals and doctors do NOT care about your health, they only care about money.  Fuck em all to hell.

[joswift]

Senseless loss.

If I was 93 stuck in a care home fucking bring it on...

[Tapeworm]

If I was 93 stuck in a care home fucking bring it on...

Best like Hemingway, I think.

[GigantorX]

Hopefully they can comment on Sweden and its vindication.

[loco]

At 2:36:15

[lightweight83]

Not under 75 years old. 

This thing has been a hoax/scam from the start. 

My best friend is an RN supervisor in a big hospital in downtown Philly.  He told me there were toe tagging ppl that died from other causes as dying from Covid since March.  They receive $30,000 for each Covid death.

The health care system is a fucking SCAM.  Hospitals and doctors do NOT care about your health, they only care about money.  Fuck em all to hell.

And I wonder how many of those deaths are truly Rona related?!?  My parents (god love em!) are completely brainwashed by this whole thing!  What's surprising about that is that both of them are extremely intelligent (both were their HS valedictorian and both have PHD's), yet they believe every single word spewed by the media regarding this shit.   I tried to have a conversation with my mom about it and she didn't even want to hear it.  I told her than in 10 years we will look back at this shit and laugh about how much of a hoax it was. 

[oldschoolfan]

from what i heard, , they over counted the carona on purpose because, all the stuff that made them money was shut down , like surgeries, std test,  and anal probes

[Flexacon]

And I wonder how many of those deaths are truly Rona related?!?  My parents (god love em!) are completely brainwashed by this whole thing!  What's surprising about that is that both of them are extremely intelligent (both were their HS valedictorian and both have PHD's), yet they believe every single word spewed by the media regarding this shit.   I tried to have a conversation with my mom about it and she didn't even want to hear it.  I told her than in 10 years we will look back at this shit and laugh about how much of a hoax it was.

A lot of people actually prefer this 'new' way of life, living in constant fear and having less freedom. Those people don't wont to hear anything different as they prefer this existence.

[Mr Anabolic]

A lot of people actually prefer this 'new' way of life, living in constant fear and having less freedom. Those people don't wont to hear anything different as they prefer this existence.

Living in constant fear and also being offended by everyone/everything they hear and see on a daily basis.  What a pitiful way to live and go through life.

[Flexacon]

Living in constant fear and also being offended by everyone/everything they hear and see on a daily basis.  What a pitiful way to live and go through life.

At a point time in our evolution it was an important survival trait. If every human to ever exist had no fear then we'd have gone extinct long ago. You need both types.

[oldtimer1]

In NJ they count every visit to an Emergency room a presumptive covid case to add to the numbers. The governor's health advisor was forced to admit this when asked at a press conference.

[OneMoreRep]

BOOM!!!!!

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-director-acknowledges-hospitals-have-a-monetary-incentive-to-overcount-coronavirus-deaths

I thought this was already common knowledge, no?

A big chunk of the stimulus package (Congress' CARES Act that gave $100B to hospitals to account for COVID-19 cases and their management) that was released not too long ago was aimed towards hospitals needing resources to better care for covid patients. They had to place a numerical figure on the heads of each COVID patient ($13k-$39k are the floating estimates that Medicare is presumably paying out per actual patient) in order to properly disperse funds. So of course, hospitals being businesses concerned with their bottom line above their concern for actual patient health (no surprise there), are going to not just report their covid-19 cases, but over-report other suspected cases so as long as they get their money and no one can possibly do a detailed audit of the situation at the Nationwide level.

Doesn't this sound like the basic capitalistic way of being?Why would I or anyone else for that matter walk away from free money especially when they practically told you there will not be any checks and balances?

What's worse is that all that *MONEY* is coming directly out of the taxpayers' pockets. Clássic redistribution of wealth at its best. Just like the bullshit $600/week unemployment checks given to all these freeloading scumbags. Those foolish parasites think they're sticking it to the man (ie government), when in reality they are simply stealing from the common man, as all those juicy $600 checks are coming directly from the tax money of other hardworking Americans.

But hey, here's the twist at the end of this rainbow.. You know who ultimately approved the CARES act? The REPUBLICAN controlled senate. On March 25th, the Senate voted unanimously, 96-0, in favor of the CARES act. So, I don't think any damn politician in Washington "cares" about the common man. Likewise, Americans are equally as foolish given that they only concentrate on small moves played out by the government and don't look at the greater picture. For as much as we all say that we hate socialism, based on these greater actions by our government, it seems like we all love socialism.

That's why Libertarians like me don't eat spoonfuls of the self-serving propaganda that comes down the hill.

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[Walter Sobchak]

I thought this was already common knowledge, no?

A big chunk of the stimulus package (Congress' CARES Act that gave $100B to hospitals to account for COVID-19 cases and their management) that was released not too long ago was aimed towards hospitals needing resources to better care for covid patients. They had to place a numerical figure on the heads of each COVID patient ($13k-$39k are the floating estimates that Medicare is presumably paying out per actual patient) in order to properly disperse funds. So of course, hospitals being businesses concerned with their bottom line above their concern for actual patient health (no surprise there), are going to not just report their covid-19 cases, but over-report other suspected cases so as long as they get their money and no one can possibly do a detailed audit of the situation at the Nationwide level.

Doesn't this sound like the basic capitalistic way of being?Why would I or anyone else for that matter walk away from free money especially when they practically told you there will not be any checks and balances?

What's worse is that all that *MONEY* is coming directly out of the taxpayers' pockets. Clássic redistribution of wealth at its best. Just like the bullshit $600/week unemployment checks given to all these freeloading scumbags. Those foolish parasites think they're sticking it to the man (ie government), when in reality they are simply stealing from the common man, as all those juicy $600 checks are coming directly from the tax money of other hardworking Americans.

But hey, here's the twist at the end of this rainbow.. You know who ultimately approved the CARES act? The REPUBLICAN controlled senate. On March 25th, the Senate voted unanimously, 96-0, in favor of the CARES act. So, I don't think any damn politician in Washington "cares" about the common man. Likewise, Americans are equally as foolish given that they only concentrate on small moves played out by the government and don't look at the greater picture. For as much as we all say that we hate socialism, based on these greater actions by our government, it seems like we all love socialism.

That's why Libertarians like me don't eat spoonfuls of the self-serving propaganda that comes down the hill.

"1"

If the Senate vote was 96-0, then why does it matter that the Senate is Republican controlled?

Let’s cut to the real truth here. The Democrats and the MSM (PR arm of the DNC) had to create some type of controversy or civil unrest before the election, to try to remove President Donald Trump from office. They have nothing else to run on...their candidate is an embarrassment, they have no clue how to run the economy, and their policies will turn the country into a broke, third world shithole in 10 years.

Anybody who pretends otherwise is just purposely denying reality.

[Mr Anabolic]

If the Senate vote was 96-0, then why does it matter that the Senate is Republican controlled?

Let’s cut to the real truth here. The Democrats and the MSM (PR arm of the DNC) had to create some type of controversy or civil unrest before the election, to try to remove President Donald Trump from office. They have nothing else to run on...their candidate is an embarrassment, they have no clue how to run the economy, and their policies will turn the country into a broke, third world shithole in 10 years.

Anybody who pretends otherwise is just purposely denying reality.

There are LOTS of pretenders out there.

This why they keep Biden in his basement.  Half the time he has no idea where he's at or what city he's in. 

I'm dying to see who Biden picks for VP.   I predict if Biden is (s)elected, shortly afterwards he'll abdicate for whatever reason, then we'll have a Nig-nog/lezbo/fem-nazi/communist/white hater for president... just watch.  Stick a fork in the US if this happens. 

[chaos]

I thought this was already common knowledge, no?

A big chunk of the stimulus package (Congress' CARES Act that gave $100B to hospitals to account for COVID-19 cases and their management) that was released not too long ago was aimed towards hospitals needing resources to better care for covid patients. They had to place a numerical figure on the heads of each COVID patient ($13k-$39k are the floating estimates that Medicare is presumably paying out per actual patient) in order to properly disperse funds. So of course, hospitals being businesses concerned with their bottom line above their concern for actual patient health (no surprise there), are going to not just report their covid-19 cases, but over-report other suspected cases so as long as they get their money and no one can possibly do a detailed audit of the situation at the Nationwide level.

Doesn't this sound like the basic capitalistic way of being?Why would I or anyone else for that matter walk away from free money especially when they practically told you there will not be any checks and balances?

What's worse is that all that *MONEY* is coming directly out of the taxpayers' pockets. Clássic redistribution of wealth at its best. Just like the bullshit $600/week unemployment checks given to all these freeloading scumbags. Those foolish parasites think they're sticking it to the man (ie government), when in reality they are simply stealing from the common man, as all those juicy $600 checks are coming directly from the tax money of other hardworking Americans.

But hey, here's the twist at the end of this rainbow.. You know who ultimately approved the CARES act? The REPUBLICAN controlled senate. On March 25th, the Senate voted unanimously, 96-0, in favor of the CARES act. So, I don't think any damn politician in Washington "cares" about the common man. Likewise, Americans are equally as foolish given that they only concentrate on small moves played out by the government and don't look at the greater picture. For as much as we all say that we hate socialism, based on these greater actions by our government, it seems like we all love socialism.

That's why Libertarians like me don't eat spoonfuls of the self-serving propaganda that comes down the hill.

"1"

I have a buddy at work that preaches liberaltarianism whenever he gets a chance. He swears their numbers are growing!

[OneMoreRep]

If the Senate vote was 96-0, then why does it matter that the Senate is Republican controlled?

Because it goes to show that Left or Right, it's all bullshit. No one is looking out for the best interests of the common American man. Just two wings on the same bird my friend.

Let’s cut to the real truth here. The Democrats and the MSM (PR arm of the DNC) had to create some type of controversy or civil unrest before the election, to try to remove President Donald Trump from office. They have nothing else to run on...their candidate is an embarrassment, they have no clue how to run the economy, and their policies will turn the country into a broke, third world shithole in 10 years.

It's not about Trump and/or his *potential* re-election, as you can clearly see troves of Republicans across the hill are turning away from him (see: McConell's most recent statements showing dissension amongst the ranks). The Democrats are equally a bunch of nitwits, who will do anything to get a WH + Congress controlled by democrats, but just like a dog barking at + chasing a car, once they actually get to the car, they don't know what the fuck to do with it. They will risk placing an elderly man with deep roots of racism and obvious present day signs of dementia in the White House, all just to get their fucking way. Biden, who has already stated he wants to do no more than 1-term and will likely pick a VP candidate that will be some odd ball (closet-Marxist) AND has already discussed increasing taxes to a much higher federal rate, while also spiking social security taxes at that. Again, who the fuck cares about the actual puppet in the white house? When will we get a party that actually gives a fuck about the American man and their personal attainment of the American dream?

Let's not miss the forest for the trees here gentlemen..

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