They used real pharmaceutical gear. I knew 2 national level guys that were on the opposite end of the spectrum with use. First guy every time he didn't win would up the dose. He was in the 4 gram range, insulin ,,gh and didn't look much better for it. The other used test, masteron,,deca at times. He went up to 1 gram test at times,,,but only dieted on tren. He did 78mg of tren every day for 8 weeks to a show...that was it and he looked great. Neither turned pro but it gave showed me how differently ppl responded. Point is some guys can definitely get by with less