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Title: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 21, 2021, 11:49:11 AM
     just substitute drumpf when you say them. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 21, 2021, 11:54:16 AM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 21, 2021, 11:57:42 AM
Those shemales in the libtard party can try.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 21, 2021, 12:02:28 PM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 21, 2021, 12:54:44 PM
We All Got Played’: QAnon Followers Implode After Big Moment Never Comes
Jack Brewster
Jack BrewsterForbes Staff
Business
I'm a news reporter for Forbes.
Updated Jan 20, 2021, 03:06pm EST
TOPLINE As Joe Biden was sworn in as president, QAnon followers finally saw their hope for the “storm”—when President Donald Trump would bring down the “deep state” and expose a far-reaching child-sex-trafficking ring—disappear, leaving followers of the unhinged conspiracy theory in despair and searching for answers, while one of the most prominent adherents gave up.
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KEY FACTS
QAnon adherents appeared to have fractured into two groups on popular far-right message boards Wednesday, with some realizing their crackpot conspiracy theory was a fraud, while others tried to somehow keep the flame of the Crazy Candle alive.

Ron Watkins, the founder of 8chan who is one of several people suspected of being the anonymous poster “Q” who spawned the conspiracy theory, conceded shortly after Biden was sworn in, telling his supporters it was time for believers to keep their “chins up” and “go back to our lives.”

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Up until the final minute of Trump’s presidency, some QAnon adherents were cheering for Trump to do something spectacular, with one instructing fellow followers Wednesday morning to “pray” because the next five hours would “determine the fate of the world.” They got that part right.

That optimism unraveled for some as the day wore on, especially after Trump gave no hints of a plan to take over the U.S. in his final speech at Joint Base Andrews, with one user lamenting on Telegram that “it simply doesn’t make sense that we all got played.”

Moderators of some pro-QAnon message boards warned followers who turned their backs on the conspiracy theory after the inauguration would be banned:


Others sought to move the goalposts, picking out passages from Trump’s speech and Eric Trump’s farewell post on Twitter as signs of hope.

By midday, a new spin to the conspiracy theory gripped the far-right message boards: Biden has been their savior all along, a twist multiple QAnon influencers threw their support behind.

“Biden is Q” a post on the donald.win read, while others brushed aside that theory and urged believers to stick with Trump.

KEY BACKGROUND
At high noon on Wednesday, QAnon followers believed that Trump would announce through the emergency broadcast system that “the storm” had come, so goes the wacky conspiracy theory. Democrats and other members of the deep state would be arrested, and Trump would continue being president.

WHAT TO WATCH FOR
After the clock struck noon and Biden officially became president, some message boards turned increasingly vitriolic. “It’s over and nothing makes sense . . . absolutely nothing,” one user said. “He sold us out,” another believer wrote. “It’s revolution time.” Some of the big-name QAnon influencers were unswayed, however. “We have just witness the biggest crime ever committed in the history of the United States all on live television,” @MajorPatriot, a prominent QAnon influencer whom Trump retweeted multiple times before his account was suspended by Twitter, said on Gab, moments after Biden was sworn in.

CRUCIAL QUOTE
“So far, Q believers seem to be in shock over Joe Biden actually being sworn in and becoming president,” Mike Rothschild, who recently published a book about conspiracy theories and tracks the QAnon conspiracy online, told Forbes Wednesday. “This type of failure was something that most of them never allowed to penetrate their minds, so to see it happening—and them rendered powerless to stop it—is truly jarring.”

TANGENT
Some QAnon followers believed Wikileaks founder Julian Assange was part of the “plan.” When Trump opted not to pardon Assange before leaving office Wednesday, many QAnon adherents were disappointed.

SURPRISING FACT
QAnon message boards lit up during Trump’s farewell speech after some believers noticed there were 17 flags around the stage. The number 17 is code for QAnon followers, as the letter “Q” is the seventeenth letter of the alphabet.

FURTHER READING
All The Times Trump And His Allies Winked At QAnon Before Its Followers Stormed The Capitol (Forbes)

Increasingly militant 'Parler refugees' and anxious QAnon adherents prep for doomsday (NBC News)

Trump Didn’t Pardon Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange And His Supporters Aren’t Happy (Forbes)

Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Hypertrophy on January 21, 2021, 01:35:14 PM
     just substitute drumpf when you say them. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)


Fuck you, you dumbass bitch. You were funny in the past for about 10 seconds. Now go die.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 21, 2021, 01:45:34 PM
QAnon should use the song YMCA for their death knell.

https://www.businessinsider.in/thelife/news/qanon-followers-are-giving-up-on-their-conspiracy-theory-after-bidens-inauguration-is-anyone-still-holding-the-line/articleshow/80376320.cms
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Les Grossman on January 21, 2021, 02:16:49 PM
Will someone please explain how 20-something year old millennials, Hollywood perverts, and gender confused LGTBQ weirdos are going to reprogram heavily armed Trump supporters?

Will they Twitter them into submission?

#NotMyPresident
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 21, 2021, 05:47:56 PM
This QAnon nonsense is a fantasy of the complicit press. I'm a conservative Republican with the overwhelming majority of friends. No one even knows what QAnon is. Democrats can keep BLM, Antifa and rioting democrats across the country. There are no QAnon riots.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 22, 2021, 02:51:49 AM
This QAnon nonsense is a fantasy of the complicit press. I'm a conservative Republican with the overwhelming majority of friends. No one even knows what QAnon is. Democrats can keep BLM, Antifa and rioting democrats across the country. There are no QAnon riots.
I agree.  I have never seen these QAnon posts on any forum or website.  Watching the MSM you would think everyone who voted for Trump followed this stuff.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 22, 2021, 06:50:32 AM
A total failure’: The Proud Boys now mock Trump
By SHEERA FRENKEL AND ALAN FEUER
THE NEW YORK TIMES |
JAN 21, 2021 AT 1:12 PM

Henry "Enrique" Tarrio, chairman of the Proud Boys, with a contingent of members of the political organization that is known to promote and engage in political violence, in Washington, Dec. 12, 2020. In dozens of conversations on social media sites like Gab and Telegram, there are signs of fraying support by members of the group for former President Donald Trump.
Henry "Enrique" Tarrio, chairman of the Proud Boys, with a contingent of members of the political organization that is known to promote and engage in political violence, in Washington, Dec. 12, 2020. In dozens of conversations on social media sites like Gab and Telegram, there are signs of fraying support by members of the group for former President Donald Trump. (Victor J. Blue/The New York Times)
After the presidential election last year, the Proud Boys, a far-right group, declared its undying loyalty to President Donald Trump.

In a Nov. 8 post in a private channel of messaging app Telegram, the group urged its followers to attend protests against an election that it said had been fraudulently stolen from Trump. “Hail Emperor Trump,” the Proud Boys wrote.

But by this week, the group’s attitude toward Trump had changed. “Trump will go down as a total failure,” the Proud Boys said in the same Telegram channel Monday.

As Trump departed the White House on Wednesday, the Proud Boys, once among his staunchest supporters, have also started leaving his side. In dozens of conversations on social media sites like Gab and Telegram, members of the group have begun calling Trump a “shill” and “extraordinarily weak,” according to messages reviewed by The New York Times. They have also urged supporters to stop attending rallies and protests held for Trump or the Republican Party.

The comments are a startling turn for the Proud Boys, which for years backed Trump and promoted political violence. Led by Enrique Tarrio, many of its thousands of members were such die-hard fans of Trump that they offered to serve as his private militia and celebrated after he told them in a presidential debate last year to “stand back and stand by.” On Jan. 6, some Proud Boys members stormed the U.S. Capitol.

But since then, discontent with Trump, who later condemned the violence, has boiled over. On social media, Proud Boys participants have complained about his willingness to leave office and said his disavowal of the Capitol rampage was an act of betrayal. And Trump, cut off on Facebook and Twitter, has been unable to talk directly to them to soothe their concerns or issue new rallying cries.

The Proud Boys’ anger toward Trump has heightened after he did nothing to help those in the group who face legal action for the Capitol violence. On Wednesday, a Proud Boy leader, Joseph Biggs, 37, was arrested in Florida and charged with unlawful entry and corruptly obstructing an official proceeding in the riot. At least four other members of the group also face charges stemming from the attack.

“When Trump told them that if he left office, America would fall into an abyss, they believed him,” Arieh Kovler, a political consultant and independent researcher in Israel who studies the far-right, said of the Proud Boys. “Now that he has left office, they believe he has both surrendered and failed to do his patriotic duty.”

The shift raises questions about the strength of the support for Trump and suggests that pockets of his fan base are fracturing. Many of Trump’s fans still falsely believe he was deprived of office, but other far-right groups such as the Oath Keepers, America First and the Three Percenters have also started criticizing him in private Telegram channels, according to a review of messages.

Last week, Nicholas Fuentes, leader of America First, wrote in his Telegram channel that Trump’s response to the Capitol rampage was “very weak and flaccid” and added, “Not the same guy that ran in 2015.”

On Wednesday, the Proud Boys Telegram group welcomed President Joe Biden to office. “At least the incoming administration is honest about their intentions,” the group wrote.

Kovler said the activity showed that groups that had coalesced around Trump were now trying to figure out their future direction. By losing his ability to post on Twitter and Facebook, Trump had also become less useful to the far-right groups, who counted on him to raise their profile on a national stage, Kovler said.

Tarrio, the leader of the Proud Boys, could not be reached for comment. A spokesperson for Trump did not respond to a request for comment.

The Proud Boys were founded in 2016 as a club for men by Gavin McInnes, who also was a founder of online publication Vice. Describing themselves as “Western chauvinists,” the group attracted people who appeared eager to engage in violence and who frequently espoused anti-Muslim and anti-Semitic views. The group had supported Trump since he assumed office.

The change toward Trump happened slowly. After November’s election, the group’s private Telegram channels, Gab pages and posts on alternative social networking site Parler were filled with calls to keep the faith with the president. Many Proud Boys, echoing Trump’s falsehoods, said the election had been rigged, according to a review of messages.

The Proud Boys urged their members to attend “Stop the Steal” rallies. One Nov. 23 message on a Proud Boys Telegram page read, “No Trump, no peace.” The message linked to information about a rally in front of the governor’s home in Georgia.

As Trump’s legal team battled the election result with lawsuits, the Proud Boys closely followed the court cases and appeals in different states, posting frequent links in their Telegram channels to news reports.

But when Trump’s legal efforts failed, the Proud Boys called for him on social media to use his presidential powers to stay in office. Some urged him to declare martial law or take control by force. In the last two weeks of December, they pushed Trump in their protests and on social media to “Cross the Rubicon.”

“They wanted to arm themselves and start a second civil war and take down the government on Trump’s behalf,” said Marc-André Argentino, a researcher who studies the far-right and a doctoral candidate at Concordia University. “But ultimately, he couldn’t be the authoritarian they wanted him to be.”

Then came the week of the Capitol storming. On Jan. 4, Tarrio was arrested by the Metropolitan Police on suspicion of burning a Black Lives Matter banner torn from a Black church in Washington. He was thrown out of the city by a judge the next day.

But nearly 100 other Proud Boys, who had been encouraged by leaders like Biggs, remained in Washington. According to court papers, Biggs told members to eschew their typical black-and-yellow polo shirts and instead go “incognito” and move about the city in “smaller teams.”

On the day of the riot, Biggs was captured in a video marching with a large group of Proud Boys toward the Capitol, chanting slogans like, “Whose streets? Our streets.”

Though prosecutors said Biggs was not among the first to break into the Capitol, they said he admitted to entering the building for a brief time. They also said he appeared to wear a walkie-talkie-style device on his chest, suggesting he was communicating with others during the incursion.

In an interview with The Times hours after the attack, Biggs said he and other Proud Boys arrived at the Capitol complex around 1 p.m. when the crowd in front of them surged and the mood grew violent. “It literally happened in seconds,” he said.

Prosecutors have also charged Dominic Pezzola, a Proud Boy from Rochester, New York, and a former Marine; Nicholas Ochs, founder of the Proud Boys’ Hawaii chapter; and Nicholas DeCarlo, who runs a news outfit called Murder the Media, which is associated with the group.

After the violence, the Proud Boys expected Trump — who had earlier told his supporters to “fight much harder” against “bad people” — to champion the mob, according to their social media messages. Instead, Trump began distancing himself from his remarks and released a video Jan. 8 denouncing the violence.

The disappointment was immediately palpable. One Proud Boys Telegram channel posted: “It really is important for us all to see how much Trump betrayed his supporters this week. We are nationalists 1st and always. Trump was just a man and as it turns out an extraordinarily weak one at the end.”

Some Proud Boys became furious that Trump, who was impeached for inciting the insurrection, did not appear interested in issuing presidential pardons for their members who were arrested. In a Telegram post Friday, they accused Trump of “instigating” the events at the Capitol, adding that he then “washed his hands of it.”

“They thought they had his support and that, ultimately, Trump would come through for them, including with a pardon if they should need it,” said Jared Holt, a visiting research fellow at the Atlantic Council’s DFR Lab. “Now they realize they went too far in the riots.”

Some Proud Boys now say in online posts that the group should “go dark” and retreat from political life by cutting its affiliation to any political party. They are encouraging one another to focus their energies on secessionist movements and local protests.

“To all demoralized Trump supporters: There is hope,” read one message in a Proud Boys Telegram channel Wednesday. “There is an alternative. Abandon the GOP and the Dems.”

c.2021 The New York Times Company

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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 22, 2021, 06:54:50 AM

Fuck you, you dumbass bitch. You were funny in the past for about 10 seconds. Now go die.
       
                                           sorry if I offended you, don't take this stuff too seriously. I already contacted dr kevorkian but he put me on hold.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: IroNat on January 22, 2021, 01:52:40 PM


Do you think they ever cleaned up all those cars and trains they drove off cliffs for those movies and TV shows?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 22, 2021, 03:16:24 PM
Do you think they ever cleaned up all those cars and trains they drove off cliffs for those movies and TV shows?
     
                            probably just throw it in the trash can and buy a new model.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Board_SHERIF on January 22, 2021, 03:50:50 PM
     just substitute drumpf when you say them. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

how cute, look at you, trying so hard to protect a libatard party of pedos and perverts.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 22, 2021, 03:59:34 PM
how cute, look at you, trying so hard to protect a libatard party of pedos and perverts.
    I don't care about either party. they are both run by a bunch of old turds.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 23, 2021, 07:54:09 AM
how cute, look at you, trying so hard to protect a libatard party of pedos and perverts.

How cute, look at you, trying so hard to share your pedo obsession with us.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: illuminati on January 23, 2021, 08:20:52 AM
This QAnon nonsense is a fantasy of the complicit press. I'm a conservative Republican with the overwhelming majority of friends. No one even knows what QAnon is. Democrats can keep BLM, Antifa and rioting democrats across the country. There are no QAnon riots.


Same Here - WTF is QAnon 🤔 ???

Is it some kinda Leftwaffe Nonsense Bollocks.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 23, 2021, 10:08:01 AM
the latest theory is that Biden is Q. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 23, 2021, 10:10:22 AM
     https://twitter.com/jeffreyguterman/status/1319711758026592256?lang=en                                lot of suffers of BDS on here.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Rusty Trombone on January 23, 2021, 11:08:38 PM
       
                                           sorry if I offended you, don't take this stuff too seriously. I already contacted dr kevorkian but he put me on hold.

A sissy way to die, a glass of razors would be better
. But contact some other EUthanasia specialist since Dr.kev is not longer with us. I hear there are some good ones in Holland. Then go die.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 24, 2021, 05:22:31 AM
A sissy way to die, a glass of razors would be better
. But contact some other EUthanasia specialist since Dr.kev is not longer with us. I hear there are some good ones in Holland. Then go die.
   thanks for the advices,.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on January 24, 2021, 08:13:50 AM
     just substitute drumpf when you say them. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)




Most White males voted for Trump...Funk must be a third world product...
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: mac33 on January 24, 2021, 09:08:53 PM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 25, 2021, 07:37:47 AM



Most White males voted for Trump...Funk must be a third world product...
  nope just an American citizen who likes presidents who do not try to overthrow the government.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on January 25, 2021, 09:19:41 AM
Unarmed Men trying to overthrow the government?   Just curious, how old are you?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 25, 2021, 10:40:52 AM
Unarmed Men trying to overthrow the government?   Just curious, how old are you?
     
                          a lot of them were armed better than the cops. I hear the Mexicans are frantically trying to finish the wall. to answer your question,  I'm 69 , how many years have you traversed this planet of ours. ???
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Rusty Trombone on January 26, 2021, 04:42:04 AM
Unarmed Men trying to overthrow the government?   Just curious, how old are you?

Liberturds don't get smarter with age unfortunately. They stay stupid.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 26, 2021, 05:01:22 AM
Liberturds don't get smarter with age unfortunately. They stay stupid.
     that's your opinion and I respect it, but opinions are like assholes everybody has one.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on January 26, 2021, 09:42:17 AM
  I'm 69 , how many years have you traversed this planet of ours. ???
You've slipped far into primemuscle territory. :(
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on January 26, 2021, 11:20:27 AM
ONE guy was arrested as he filed out of the building and cops noticed a concealed handgun....ONE....
If you get your information from CNN you are indeed a fool and not interested in the truth.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 26, 2021, 11:34:32 AM
ONE guy was arrested as he filed out of the building and cops noticed a concealed handgun....ONE....
If you get your information from CNN you are indeed a fool and not interested in the truth.
   52 arrested, 6 weapons recovered at U.S. Capitol riot
NATION/WORLD
by: Associated Press, KTLA Digital Staff

Posted: Jan 6, 2021 / 02:36 PM PST / Updated: Jan 6, 2021 / 09:20 PM PST
The Washington, D.C., police chief says at least six weapons have been recovered, dozens of people have been arrested and 14 police officers have been hurt so far in Wednesday’s pro-Trump riot.

The mostly maskless crowd stormed the Capitol earlier Wednesday as lawmakers were meeting to certify President-elect Joe Biden’s win. One woman was shot and later pronounced dead.

Police Chief Robert Contee called the attack a riot.

Mayor Muriel Bowser earlier declared a 6 p.m. curfew.

As darkness began to set in, law enforcement officials were working their way toward the protesters, using percussion grenades to try to clear the area around the Capitol. Big clouds of tear gas were visible.

Police were in full riot gear. They moved down the West steps, clashing with demonstrators.

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Officials say the Capitol was cleared by 8 p.m., when Congress reconvened.

By 9:30 p.m., 52 people had been arrested. Four were taken into custody on suspicion of carrying pistols without licenses, one for alleged possession of prohibited weapon and 47 on suspicion of curfew and unlawful entry violations, Contee said.

Of those detained, 26 were arrested on Capitol grounds. 

Authorities also recovered two pipe bombs — one each at the Democratic National Committee and Republican National Committee headquarters.

A cooler containing a long gun and Molotov cocktails were also seized at the Capitol. And six firearms were recovered Wednesday, in addition to three the night before, according to Contee.

Fourteen D.C. police officers were injured in the unrest, including two who remained hospitalized Wednesday night.

One officer suffered serious injuries after he was pulled into a crowd and assaulted, while the other hospitalized sustained significant facial injuries from being struck by a projectile, Contee said.

Suggest a Correction
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 26, 2021, 11:44:58 AM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on January 26, 2021, 02:32:03 PM
   52 arrested, 6 weapons recovered at U.S. Capitol riot
NATION/WORLD
by: Associated Press, KTLA Digital Staff

Posted: Jan 6, 2021 / 02:36 PM PST / Updated: Jan 6, 2021 / 09:20 PM PST
The Washington, D.C., police chief says at least six weapons have been recovered, dozens of people have been arrested and 14 police officers have been hurt so far in Wednesday’s pro-Trump riot.

The mostly maskless crowd stormed the Capitol earlier Wednesday as lawmakers were meeting to certify President-elect Joe Biden’s win. One woman was shot and later pronounced dead.

Police Chief Robert Contee called the attack a riot.

Mayor Muriel Bowser earlier declared a 6 p.m. curfew.

As darkness began to set in, law enforcement officials were working their way toward the protesters, using percussion grenades to try to clear the area around the Capitol. Big clouds of tear gas were visible.

Police were in full riot gear. They moved down the West steps, clashing with demonstrators.

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Officials say the Capitol was cleared by 8 p.m., when Congress reconvened.

By 9:30 p.m., 52 people had been arrested. Four were taken into custody on suspicion of carrying pistols without licenses, one for alleged possession of prohibited weapon and 47 on suspicion of curfew and unlawful entry violations, Contee said.

Of those detained, 26 were arrested on Capitol grounds. 

Authorities also recovered two pipe bombs — one each at the Democratic National Committee and Republican National Committee headquarters.

A cooler containing a long gun and Molotov cocktails were also seized at the Capitol. And six firearms were recovered Wednesday, in addition to three the night before, according to Contee.

Fourteen D.C. police officers were injured in the unrest, including two who remained hospitalized Wednesday night.

One officer suffered serious injuries after he was pulled into a crowd and assaulted, while the other hospitalized sustained significant facial injuries from being struck by a projectile, Contee said.

Suggest a Correction




Okay....4 people were arrested for carrying  pistols.....4 out of hundreds of thousands and you contend that this was an attempted overthrow of the government?
That defies logic. The molatov cocktails and some of the weapons were not seized at the riots.  The protesters didn't brandish weapons and they didn't fire a shot and they left of their own volition.
You liberals are simply hysterical....
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: _bruce_ on January 26, 2021, 03:16:12 PM
 ???
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: illuminati on January 26, 2021, 03:18:10 PM



Okay....4 people were arrested for carrying  pistols.....4 out of hundreds of thousands and you contend that this was an attempted overthrow of the government?
That defies logic. The molatov cocktails and some of the weapons were not seized at the riots.  The protesters didn't brandish weapons and they didn't fire a shot and they left of their own volition.
You liberals are simply hysterical....

Don’t bother with them they’re Nuts Incapable of Logical Rational Thinking.

Cognitive Dissonance- Thats what they suffer 🙄  No Hope For Them.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 26, 2021, 03:43:38 PM
Don't worry.... more arrests coming soon!   :D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 27, 2021, 05:40:42 AM
The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider Freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.
We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.
We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.
We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things.
We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.
These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete.
Remember to spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever.
Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side.
Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.
Remember, to say, 'I love you' to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you.
Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again.
Give time to love, give time to speak! And give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.
And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on January 27, 2021, 09:18:08 AM
The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider Freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.
We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.
We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.
We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things.
We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.
These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete.
Remember to spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever.
Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side.
Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.
Remember, to say, 'I love you' to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you.
Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again.
Give time to love, give time to speak! And give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.
And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.



Kindness and love and yet you and your ilk shower hatred, insults and vitriol upon those who disagree with you..(Republicans)..You Sir are a hypocrite...
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 27, 2021, 11:03:36 AM


Kindness and love and yet you and your ilk shower hatred, insults and vitriol upon those who disagree with you..(Republicans)..You Sir are a hypocrite...
   Marjorie Taylor Greene Signaled Approval For Executing Top Democrats Before Seeking Office
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Updated Jan 26, 2021, 05:50pm EST
TOPLINE Freshman Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), a pro-Trump lawmaker who has been embraced by House GOP leadership based on a false belief she has renounced the QAnon conspiracy theory, was embroiled in controversy yet again on Tuesday after CNN’s KFILE unearthed Facebook posts in which she expressed support for executing prominent Democrats.
House Freshmen Representatives Meet On Front Steps Of Capitol Building
WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 04: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) (Center, in red) and other newly ...
KEY FACTS
Greene liked a Facebook comment from Jan. 2019 arguing “a bullet to the head would be quicker" for removing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, in addition to liking comments about executing FBI agents seen as working for the “deep state,” according to the report.

Asked by one commenter in 2018 how they can “hang” former President Barack Obama and Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, Greene replied "Stage is being set. Players are being put in place. We must be patient. This must be done perfectly or liberal judges would let them off."

PROMOTED

Greene tweeted a statement calling the CNN report a “hit piece on me focused on my time before running for political office” and claiming she’s had “teams of people manage my pages. Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not represent my views.”

Greene did not deny liking or replying to the specific posts CNN reported on, instead accusing the outlet of “taking old Facebook posts from random users to try to cancel me and silence my voice.”

A spokesperson for Greene noted the posts were from before she ran for office but declined to comment further, referring Forbes to the statement she posted to Twitter.

KEY BACKGROUND
Greene’s presence on social media has been a point of major controversy ever since she catapulted into the national spotlight for her extreme views. During the campaign, she came under fire even from GOP leaders for racist Facebook posts and an interview in which she espoused a 9/11 conspiracy theory. In September, she posted a photo of herself holding a gun stating she wants to go on “offense” against several Democratic lawmakers.

TANGENT
Greene was temporarily suspended from Twitter last week for calling Georgia election official Gabriel Sterling a “moron” and “little” after he blamed Republican losses in Georgia on the baseless election fraud conspiracy theories pushed by Greene and other Trump allies.

CRUCIAL QUOTE
“Our party is very diverse. You mentioned two people who are going to join our party, and both of them have denounced QAnon,” House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy said of Greene and Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) in November, calling for them to get an “opportunity.”

SURPRISING FACT
Despite McCarthy’s assurances, Greene has not distanced herself from the conspiracy theory, which posited that former President Donald Trump was working with “Q,” an anonymous government official, to bring down a child sex trafficking ring run by Democrats and Hollywood actors. She even espoused some of its most extreme aspects in social media posts.

WHAT TO WATCH FOR
Republican leaders have not shown any signs of plans to cut Greene loose despite her many controversies. She has taken the initiative to position herself as one of the Biden administration’s fiercest opponents in the House, even filing dead-on-arrival articles of impeachment against Biden just one day into his term.    you sir are the hypocrite. projecting one's own weakness on another is pure trumpism 101.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 27, 2021, 11:44:59 AM
      how many radical right getbiggers were there to support their lord and savior ?  not judging just curious.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: TheGrinch on January 27, 2021, 12:10:34 PM
      how many radical right getbiggers were there to support their lord and savior ?  not judging just curious.

you do realize thats ANTIFA right?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 27, 2021, 12:30:50 PM
you do realize thats ANTIFA right?
           so antifa now wears the trump hate hats, you are delusional.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 27, 2021, 12:52:05 PM
You do realize that it is not Antifa right?

News report saying Antifa took responsibility for storming Capitol is digitally altered Reuters January 7, 2021
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-news-report-antifa-altered/fact-check-news-report-saying-antifa-took-responsibility-for-storming-capitol-is-digitally-altered-idUSKBN29C2ZF

For a list of debunked Antifa claims, check out this article in the Austin American Statesman published on January 11, 2021
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/01/11/antifa-members-did-not-storm-capitol-and-other-false-claims-riot/6602670002/

Fact check: False claim of facial recognition of antifa members during U.S. Capitol riot  USA Today, January 7, 2021
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/07/fact-check-false-claim-facial-recognition-antifa-capitol/6580679002/

The FBI said there is no indication that Antifa played a role in the mob that stormed the Capitol.

Trump privately blamed “Antifa people” for storming the US Capitol, even though clear video and documentary evidence shows the rioters were overwhelmingly his supporters.

The bottom line is that there’s no credible evidence rioters who breached the Capitol were supporters of Antifa. If you have evidence proving otherwise, you should contact the FBI. I'm pretty sure they'd be interested.
      what do you expect from a trumptard, their love and devotion for the orange turd knows no limits. It's funny how we never heard the term fake news till we got a fake president.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Iron-Muscle on January 27, 2021, 01:09:50 PM
SNL wont be needed for this nutjob. WTF is he saying?

https://www.tiktok.com/@denita616/video/6922525303969565957
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Earl1972 on January 27, 2021, 01:48:15 PM
  nope just an American citizen who likes presidents who do not try to overthrow the government.

but you like presidents that don't condemn 2 billion dollars in property damage until they see their lead in the polls slipping?

also in the constitution it says the people can overthrow the govt when the govt proves to be tyrannical

E
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Earl1972 on January 27, 2021, 02:05:21 PM
If any one has acted in a tyrannical manner, it was Trump.

https://www.vox.com/2016/8/22/12559364/second-amendment-tyranny-militia-constitution-founders

your people want to take away constitutional rights and destroy anybody that opposes their insanity and trump is the tyrant ::)

what did trump take away from you?  how did he make your life worse?

E
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 28, 2021, 11:25:10 AM
https://abcnews.go.com/US/capitol-rioter-allegedly-posted-pelosis-office-instagram-arrested/story?id=75324078
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Iron-Muscle on January 28, 2021, 12:38:47 PM
ugly nancy illegal stock insider trading, htey dont even try to hide it anymore
even demHoo is reporting on the ugly one

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nancy-pelosi-recent-stock-purchase-173817407.html
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Grape Ape on January 28, 2021, 01:28:19 PM
If any one has acted in a tyrannical manner, it was Trump.

https://www.vox.com/2016/8/22/12559364/second-amendment-tyranny-militia-constitution-founders

He could have gotten away with the biggest power grab ever using Covid as the excuse.

Instead he gave the power to the States to handle.

Yup, a fascist tyrant.  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 28, 2021, 02:03:58 PM
He could have gotten away with the biggest power grab ever using Covid as the excuse.

Instead he gave the power to the States to handle.

Yup, a fascist tyrant.  ::) ::) ::) ::)
   no, he was just a guy who didn't  want to take responsibility for anything of that magnitude. he botched the handling of the covid from the start and wanted to distance himself from the aftermath;  just like he's distancing himself from the riot he caused. trump more or less wants to be king of America with mike pence as his prime minster much like the set up the royal family has in England.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 28, 2021, 02:06:05 PM
ugly nancy illegal stock insider trading, htey dont even try to hide it anymore
even demHoo is reporting on the ugly one

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nancy-pelosi-recent-stock-purchase-173817407.html
   what do you mean Pelosi was a beauty queen. she was miss lube job 1938.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: irishdave on January 28, 2021, 02:41:34 PM
The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider Freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.
We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.
We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.
We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things.
We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.
These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete.
Remember to spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever.
Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side.
Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.
Remember, to say, 'I love you' to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you.
Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again.
Give time to love, give time to speak! And give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.
And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.

Fuck off with your bullshit. You’re a soft fucker who lives in a bubble
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on January 28, 2021, 07:41:27 PM
           so antifa now wears the trump hate hats, you are delusional.
Is there some sort of proof or background check to prove you're a Trump supporter before you can buy and wear a hat. ::)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on January 29, 2021, 11:03:58 AM
Don't forget, there's 75 million of us in this country and we control the military....AND most of the gun owners are Republicans...AND Democrats are mostly pussies..
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 29, 2021, 11:33:39 AM
       
                                      Oklahoma trying to return its $2m stockpile of hydroxychloroquine
January 26, 2021
The Oklahoma Attorney General’s Office has been tasked with attempting to return a $2 million stockpile of a malaria drug once touted by former President Donald Trump as a way to treat the coronavirus.

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Attorney General Mike Hunter speaks to the media after Judge Thad Balkman read a summery of his decision in the opioid trial at the Cleveland County Courthouse in Norman, Okla. on Monday, Aug. 26, 2019. Judge Balkman ruled in favor of the State of Oklahoma, that Johnson and Johnson pay $572 million to a plan to abate the opioid crisis. The proceeding were the first public trial to emerge from roughly 2,000 U.S. lawsuits aimed at holding drug companies accountable for the nation’s opioid crisis. [Chris Landsberger/Pool]
The Oklahoma Attorney General’s Office has been tasked with attempting to return a $2 million stockpile of a malaria drug once touted by former President Donald Trump as a way to treat the coronavirus.

In April, Gov. Kevin Stitt, who ordered the hydroxychloroquine purchase, defended it by saying that while it may not be a useful treatment for the coronavirus, the drug had multiple other uses and “that money will not have gone to waste in any respect.”

But nearly a year later the state is trying to offload the drug back to its original supplier, California-based FFF Enterprises, Inc, a private pharmaceutical wholesaler.

Alex Gerszewski, a spokesman for Oklahoma Attorney General Mike Hunter, told The Frontier this week that the AG’s office was working with the state health department “to try to figure out a solution.”

Gerszewski said Hunter’s office had gotten involved at the request of the Oklahoma State Department of Health.

Stitt was criticized last year for the $2 million purchase, a move viewed by some as a partisan move to curry favor with conservatives who were defending Trump amid criticism of his own support of the drug. But Stitt defended the purchase at the time by likening it to the race early last year to procure personal protective equipment for Oklahomans, believing it was better to have the hydroxychloroquine stockpile and not need it, rather than to later learn the drug was useful but not have it.

Stitt’s spokeswoman Carly Atchison told The Frontier this week that  “Every decision the Governor makes is with the health and lives of Oklahomans in mind, including purchasing hydroxychloroquine, securing PPE, and now distributing vaccines as quickly and efficiently as possible to combat this COVID crisis.”

The state purchased the hydroxychloroquine stockpile in early April, days after Trump began to tout it as a treatment. While many acknowledged at the time that reports of the drug’s effectiveness were purely anecdotal, Trump said at a briefing in March, “What do we have to lose? I feel very good about it.”

Health officials nationwide immediately began to caution people against using the drug, throwing water on the idea that it could cure a coronavirus infection and cautioning that it could have serious side effects, including irregular heart rhythms and even the possibility of death. The drug was ultimately discredited as a treatment option and the National Institute of Health released a report in November that the drug had “no clinical benefit to hospitalized patients.”

Though more than 20 states ultimately bought hydroxychloroquine drugs for potential use against COVID-19, Oklahoma, along with Utah, was one of only two states who purchased the drug from private wholesalers, according to the Associated Press.

Stitt wasn’t alone in his support of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for the coronavirus. In August, Rep. Justin Humphrey, R-Lane, promoted hydroxychloroquine as a viable treatment after he had contracted COVID-19.

Though the drug had been widely discredited at that point, Humphrey, who has recently made news for seeking to establish a Bigfoot hunting season in Oklahoma and made waves in 2017 when he referred to pregnant women as “hosts,” encouraged Oklahomans to “take courage and begin treating COVID with Hydroxychloroquine.”

It’s unclear yet how much of the initial $2 million investment in the hydroxychloroquine the state could recoup. FFF Enterprises did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 29, 2021, 11:37:28 AM
but you like presidents that don't condemn 2 billion dollars in property damage until they see their lead in the polls slipping?

also in the constitution it says the people can overthrow the govt when the govt proves to be tyrannical

E
   
                       he wasn't president at that point, and he never gave a speech encouraging his constituents to fight like hell for him. would you have liked to see mike pence hung inside the capitol for going against trump's wishes.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 29, 2021, 11:53:21 AM
Don't forget, there's 75 million of us in this country and we control the military....AND most of the gun owners are Republicans...AND Democrats are mostly pussies..
                           
                 so you're saying a good old civil war will fix everything.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 29, 2021, 12:22:30 PM
That Trumpism cartoon is not even close to being accurate.  There was no armed takeover and the windows broken were from a leftist.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Iron-Muscle on January 29, 2021, 12:24:24 PM
dems ignore violence all summer
msm gets puppets to believe trumptards were behind violence at capitol, never mention antifa, ever
dems are brain-dead morons like this tds op
love george floyd, love when white babies are killed by thugs
soft as a grape and just as ugly
glad trumpster takes up so much space in their little minds 24xy  lmao
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: _bruce_ on January 30, 2021, 01:52:39 AM
but you like presidents that don't condemn 2 billion dollars in property damage until they see their lead in the polls slipping?

also in the constitution it says the people can overthrow the govt when the govt proves to be tyrannical

E

Then the US should have had a revolutions decades ago.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 30, 2021, 10:10:53 AM
Will someone please explain how 20-something year old millennials, Hollywood perverts, and gender confused LGTBQ weirdos are going to reprogram heavily armed Trump supporters?

Will they Twitter them into submission?

#NotMyPresident

They can’t.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 30, 2021, 12:10:23 PM
Black Lives Matter movement nominated for 2021 Nobel Peace Prize
Shawna Chen
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Photo of protesters holding signs that denounce racism and police brutality
Protestors take part in a Black Lives Matter march outside the Parliament building in Oslo, Norway in solidarity with U.S. protests over the death of George Floyd. Photo by Stian Lysberg Solum/AFP via Getty Images

The Black Lives Matter movement has been nominated for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize for compelling countries around the world to address systemic racism.

Why it matters: The BLM movement launched in 2013 following George Zimmerman's acquittal for shooting Trayvon Martin, an unarmed Black teenager. The case kickstarted the international movement to address the controversial deaths of Black people, particularly at the hands of police.

The group has "been able to mobilise people from all groups of society, not just African-Americans, not just oppressed people ... in a way which has been different from their predecessors," Nobel nominator Norwegian MP Petter Eide said, per the Guardian.
Background: The BLM movement was co-founded by Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors and Opal Tometi.

The mission spread in the years thereafter as protesters denounced police killings of Black Americans including Michael Brown and Eric Garner.
BLM amplified calls for justice last year after law enforcement officers killed George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, resulting in mass protests and a global racial reckoning.
What he's saying: "It’s a strong linkage between antiracism movements and peace, and a recognition that without this kind of justice, there will be no peace and stability in the society," Eide said.

Of note: He dismissed criticism that BLM is violent, citing data that shows 93% of Black Lives Matter demonstrations do not cause serious harm to people or property.
"Awarding the peace prize to Black Lives Matter, as the strongest global force against racial injustice, will send a powerful message that peace is founded on equality, solidarity and human rights, and that all countries must respect those basic principles," Eide concluded.
The big picture: Last year's Nobel prize recognized the World Food Program in a pointed assertion that multilateralism is saving lives. This year's winner will be selected in October and the award ceremony is scheduled for Dec. 10. :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on January 30, 2021, 01:39:17 PM
Funk...You are absolutely obsessed with Trump.  You need to get a life.
Peace , love and brotherhood and you are full of hate.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 30, 2021, 02:00:50 PM
Funk...You are absolutely obsessed with Trump.  You need to get a life.
Peace , love and brotherhood and you are full of hate.
   I've got no hate in me man. I like everyone and everything, even you. I just want to see the world get back  to some semblance of normalcy. I don't really hate trump , I just think he's a clown and was completely out of his element as president. not saying the alternative is much better.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 31, 2021, 01:07:02 PM
      SOME WORDS OF INSPIRATION TO GET YOU THROUGH THE DARK DAYS AHEAD.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on January 31, 2021, 01:26:49 PM
    at least you have some up incomers to worship.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on January 31, 2021, 04:11:42 PM
Funk...You are absolutely obsessed with Trump.  You need to get a life.
Peace , love and brotherhood and you are full of hate.
Facts.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 01, 2021, 06:35:57 AM
Facts.
           
                                                                                                                                                                                                           not really sir, I'd call it being mildly amused by him. as far as hate give me a break, you've got no idea what real hate encompasses.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: epic is back on February 01, 2021, 07:07:19 AM
Fuck off with your bullshit. You’re a soft fucker who lives in a bubble

x100
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 01, 2021, 11:38:33 AM
x100
     
      I see the Gollum has sobered up long enough to post some more hate and vitriol. congrats, stay sober my friend.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on February 01, 2021, 05:42:14 PM
     
      I see the Gollum has sobered up long enough to post some more hate and vitriol. congrats, stay sober my friend.

give me a break, you've got no idea what real hate encompasses.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 02, 2021, 06:26:49 AM
It’s Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Party Now
She embarrasses some Republicans, but she’s no outlier.

Michelle Goldberg
By Michelle Goldberg
Opinion Columnist

Feb. 1, 2021

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Steve King, the Republican former congressman from Iowa, must feel robbed. Two years ago, he was stripped of all his committee assignments after asking, in an interview with The New York Times, “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?” The Republican Party threw its weight behind King’s primary challenger, and he was whisked off the national stage, no longer to embarrass colleagues who prefer that racist demagogy be performed with enough finesse to allow for plausible deniability.

Since then, standards have changed. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, is every bit as bigoted as King, and 10 times as unhinged. By now, you’ve surely heard her theory that California wildfires might have been caused by a space laser controlled by Jewish bankers. That wasn’t Greene’s first foray into anti-Semitism; in 2018 she shared a notorious white nationalist video in which a Holocaust denier claimed that “Zionist supremacists have schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation.”

Recently, Greene met with a far-right British commentator, Katie Hopkins, who has described migrants as “cockroaches” and said she doesn’t care if they die. Greene told her, “I would love to trade you for some of our white people here that have no appreciation for our country.” She described the results of the 2018 midterms as “an Islamic invasion of our government.” Greene endorsed calls for the execution of prominent Democrats and agreed with Facebook posts claiming that the Parkland and Sandy Hook school shootings were hoaxes. She harassed one of the Parkland massacre’s young survivors.

As it happens, this week House Republicans are seeking to punish a prominent woman in their ranks — but it’s not Greene. A big chunk of the House Republican caucus is reportedly trying to oust Liz Cheney of Wyoming from leadership because she voted to impeach Donald Trump for inciting the Jan. 6 insurrection.

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Kevin McCarthy, the Republican House leader, is meeting with Greene, but it’s far from clear that he’ll act against her, because she represents much of their party’s base. When The New Yorker’s Charles Bethea met a group of Greene’s local supporters last year, they were generally familiar with QAnon, and several agreed that Democrats are controlled by Satan. There’s a reason Kelly Loeffler, who needed to get out the pro-Trump vote, touted Greene’s endorsement when she was trying to hold on to her Georgia Senate seat.

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Some decent Republicans imagine they’re in a battle for their party’s soul. Representative Adam Kinzinger, who like Cheney voted to impeach Trump, recently started a PAC devoted to fighting the forces that led to Greene’s rise and the Capitol rampage. “The time has come to choose what kind of party we will be,” he said in an introductory video. The thing is, Republicans already have chosen.

Just look at the party’s state affiliates. On Jan. 4, the Arizona G.O.P. retweeted a “Stop the Steal” activist who’d pronounced himself willing to “give my life” to overturn the election. Said the party’s official account: “He is. Are you?” An Arizona lawmaker has since introduced a bill that would let the Legislature, controlled by Republicans, override the presidential vote of the state’s increasingly Democratic citizenry.

The Oregon Republican Party approved a resolution suggesting that the Capitol siege was a “false flag” attack. The Texas Republican Party has adopted the QAnon slogan “We are the storm” as its motto, though it insists there’s no connection. The chairman of Wyoming’s Republican Party, who attended Trump’s rally on Jan. 6, said he might be open to secession.

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Greene is not the outlier in this party. Kinzinger is.

American conservatism — particularly its evangelical strain — has fostered derangement in its ranks for decades, insisting that no source of information outside its own self-reinforcing ideological bubble is trustworthy.

If you’re steeped in creationism and believe that elites are lying to you about the origins of life on earth, it’s not a stretch to believe they’re lying to you about a life-threatening virus. If what you know of history is the revisionist version of the Christian right, in which God deeded America to the faithful, then pluralism will feel like the theft of your birthright. If you believe that the last Democratic president was illegitimate, as Trump and other birthers claimed, then it’s not hard to believe that dark forces would foist another unconstitutional leader on the country.

There was a moment, after the Capitol riot, when it seemed as if a critical mass of the Republican Party was recoiling at what it had created. But the moment passed, because it would have required the party’s putative leaders to defy too many of their followers. Senator Mitch McConnell floated openness to convicting Trump in a Senate trial, but ended up voting that such a trial was unconstitutional. Fox News, finger to the wind, purged many of its real journalists and gave the conspiracy theorist Maria Bartiromo a prime-time tryout.

On Monday Politico reported that if Republicans don’t strip Greene of committee assignments, Democrats will try to do it, bringing the issue to the House floor. Republican members will have the chance to distance themselves from her. If they don’t, it will be because they know she belongs.

The Times is committed to publishing a diversity of letters to the editor. We’d like to hear what you think about this or any of our articles. Here are some tips. And here’s our email: letters@nytimes.com.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 02, 2021, 06:28:45 AM
It’s Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Party Now
She embarrasses some Republicans, but she’s no outlier.

Michelle Goldberg
By Michelle Goldberg
Opinion Columnist

Feb. 1, 2021

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Steve King, the Republican former congressman from Iowa, must feel robbed. Two years ago, he was stripped of all his committee assignments after asking, in an interview with The New York Times, “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?” The Republican Party threw its weight behind King’s primary challenger, and he was whisked off the national stage, no longer to embarrass colleagues who prefer that racist demagogy be performed with enough finesse to allow for plausible deniability.

Since then, standards have changed. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, is every bit as bigoted as King, and 10 times as unhinged. By now, you’ve surely heard her theory that California wildfires might have been caused by a space laser controlled by Jewish bankers. That wasn’t Greene’s first foray into anti-Semitism; in 2018 she shared a notorious white nationalist video in which a Holocaust denier claimed that “Zionist supremacists have schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation.”

Recently, Greene met with a far-right British commentator, Katie Hopkins, who has described migrants as “cockroaches” and said she doesn’t care if they die. Greene told her, “I would love to trade you for some of our white people here that have no appreciation for our country.” She described the results of the 2018 midterms as “an Islamic invasion of our government.” Greene endorsed calls for the execution of prominent Democrats and agreed with Facebook posts claiming that the Parkland and Sandy Hook school shootings were hoaxes. She harassed one of the Parkland massacre’s young survivors.

As it happens, this week House Republicans are seeking to punish a prominent woman in their ranks — but it’s not Greene. A big chunk of the House Republican caucus is reportedly trying to oust Liz Cheney of Wyoming from leadership because she voted to impeach Donald Trump for inciting the Jan. 6 insurrection.

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Kevin McCarthy, the Republican House leader, is meeting with Greene, but it’s far from clear that he’ll act against her, because she represents much of their party’s base. When The New Yorker’s Charles Bethea met a group of Greene’s local supporters last year, they were generally familiar with QAnon, and several agreed that Democrats are controlled by Satan. There’s a reason Kelly Loeffler, who needed to get out the pro-Trump vote, touted Greene’s endorsement when she was trying to hold on to her Georgia Senate seat.

The ArgumentListen to our podcast every Wednesday morning, with Ross Douthat and Michelle Goldberg
Some decent Republicans imagine they’re in a battle for their party’s soul. Representative Adam Kinzinger, who like Cheney voted to impeach Trump, recently started a PAC devoted to fighting the forces that led to Greene’s rise and the Capitol rampage. “The time has come to choose what kind of party we will be,” he said in an introductory video. The thing is, Republicans already have chosen.

Just look at the party’s state affiliates. On Jan. 4, the Arizona G.O.P. retweeted a “Stop the Steal” activist who’d pronounced himself willing to “give my life” to overturn the election. Said the party’s official account: “He is. Are you?” An Arizona lawmaker has since introduced a bill that would let the Legislature, controlled by Republicans, override the presidential vote of the state’s increasingly Democratic citizenry.

The Oregon Republican Party approved a resolution suggesting that the Capitol siege was a “false flag” attack. The Texas Republican Party has adopted the QAnon slogan “We are the storm” as its motto, though it insists there’s no connection. The chairman of Wyoming’s Republican Party, who attended Trump’s rally on Jan. 6, said he might be open to secession.

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Greene is not the outlier in this party. Kinzinger is.

American conservatism — particularly its evangelical strain — has fostered derangement in its ranks for decades, insisting that no source of information outside its own self-reinforcing ideological bubble is trustworthy.

If you’re steeped in creationism and believe that elites are lying to you about the origins of life on earth, it’s not a stretch to believe they’re lying to you about a life-threatening virus. If what you know of history is the revisionist version of the Christian right, in which God deeded America to the faithful, then pluralism will feel like the theft of your birthright. If you believe that the last Democratic president was illegitimate, as Trump and other birthers claimed, then it’s not hard to believe that dark forces would foist another unconstitutional leader on the country.

There was a moment, after the Capitol riot, when it seemed as if a critical mass of the Republican Party was recoiling at what it had created. But the moment passed, because it would have required the party’s putative leaders to defy too many of their followers. Senator Mitch McConnell floated openness to convicting Trump in a Senate trial, but ended up voting that such a trial was unconstitutional. Fox News, finger to the wind, purged many of its real journalists and gave the conspiracy theorist Maria Bartiromo a prime-time tryout.

On Monday Politico reported that if Republicans don’t strip Greene of committee assignments, Democrats will try to do it, bringing the issue to the House floor. Republican members will have the chance to distance themselves from her. If they don’t, it will be because they know she belongs.

The Times is committed to publishing a diversity of letters to the editor. We’d like to hear what you think about this or any of our articles. Here are some tips. And here’s our email: letters@nytimes.com.
             
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 02, 2021, 06:33:19 AM
   
     A NEW HERO HAS APPEARED.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 03, 2021, 06:05:03 AM
Why Are Republican Presidents So Bad for the Economy?
G.D.P., jobs and other indicators have all risen faster under Democrats for nearly the past century.

By David LeonhardtGraphics by Yaryna Serkez
Mr. Leonhardt is a senior writer at The Times. Ms. Serkez is a writer and graphics editor for Opinion.

Feb. 2, 2021


Credit...Frank Franklin Ii/Associated Press

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A president has only limited control over the economy. And yet there has been a stark pattern in the United States for nearly a century. The economy has grown significantly faster under Democratic presidents than Republican ones.

It’s true about almost any major indicator: gross domestic product, employment, incomes, productivity, even stock prices. It’s true if you examine only the precise period when a president is in office, or instead assume that a president’s policies affect the economy only after a lag and don’t start his economic clock until months after he takes office. The gap “holds almost regardless of how you define success,” two economics professors at Princeton, Alan Blinder and Mark Watson, write. They describe it as “startlingly large.”

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Note: Real G.D.P. adjusted for inflation and seasonal fluctuations.·Source: U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis.
Since 1933, the economy has grown at an annual average rate of 4.6 percent under Democratic presidents and 2.4 percent under Republicans, according to a Times analysis. In more concrete terms: The average income of Americans would be more than double its current level if the economy had somehow grown at the Democratic rate for all of the past nine decades. If anything, that period (which is based on data availability) is too kind to Republicans, because it excludes the portion of the Great Depression that happened on Herbert Hoover’s watch.

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Starting president's economic clock...

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Note: Data adjusted for seasonal fluctuations.·Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
The six presidents who have presided over the fastest job growth have all been Democrats, as you can see above. The four presidents who have presided over the slowest growth have all been Republicans.

The big question, of course, is why. And there are not easy answers.

I have shown the data to multiple economists in recent weeks, and most say they are not sure how to explain it, at least not fully. “We don’t quite get why it’s the case,” Katherine Eriksson, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who specializes in economic history, told me. Marianne Wanamaker, an economist at the University of Tennessee, described the pattern to the graduate students in a class she teaches and asked for their thoughts. “They were sort of stumped,” she said.

Part of the answer surely involves coincidence. Some presidents, like Barack Obama and George W. Bush, take office when the economy is in a downturn, while others, like Harry Truman and Donald Trump, inherit a boom. Some, like Lyndon Johnson and Ronald Reagan, preside over military buildups; others, like Dwight Eisenhower and Bill Clinton, drawdowns. More broadly, the economy’s performance stems from millions of decisions made every day by businesses and consumers, many of which have little relation to government policy.

Still, the pattern is so strong and long-lasting that coincidence alone is unlikely to be the only explanation. Statistical noise, as Mr. Blinder and Mr. Watson wrote in their paper exploring the pattern, does not seem to be the answer.

What, then, are the most plausible theories?

First, it’s worth rejecting a few unlikely possibilities. Congressional control is not the answer. The pattern holds regardless of which party is running Congress. Deficit spending also doesn’t explain the gap: It is not the case that Democrats juice the economy by spending money and then leave Republicans to clean up the mess. Over the last four decades, in fact, Republican presidents have run up larger deficits than Democrats.

That leaves one broad possibility with a good amount of supporting evidence: Democrats have been more willing to heed economic and historical lessons about what policies actually strengthen the economy, while Republicans have often clung to theories that they want to believe — like the supposedly magical power of tax cuts and deregulation. Democrats, in short, have been more pragmatic.

When Franklin D. Roosevelt first ran for president, in 1932, he did not have a fully coherent economic plan. He sometimes argued that reducing the deficit was the key to ending the Depression. Above all, though, he called for “bold, persistent experimentation.” As he explained: “Take a method and try it: If it fails, admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something.”

Over time, he and his advisers came to champion the ideas of John Maynard Keynes. In an economic downturn, when companies and households are caught in a vicious cycle of spending reductions, the government needs to step in. The Keynesian approach has shaped Democratic economic policy ever since.

It has made Democratic presidents much more aggressive in responding to crises than Republicans. Not only was Hoover passive in the face of the Depression, but the first George Bush was slow to fight the 1990-91 recession, and the second George Bush was slow to begin fighting the 2007-9 financial crisis. Mr. Obama and now President Biden, when faced with an economic crisis, have been much bolder.

Michael Strain, an economist at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, told me that he believed the overall partisan pattern was mostly coincidence. But, he said, “It is certainly a defensible posture that in periods of economic distress Democrats are more concerned about jobs than Republicans.”

The past year has offered another case study. Mr. Trump repeatedly downplayed the coronavirus pandemic, and the country suffered. The economy would have experienced a downturn no matter who was president, but his scattered response aggravated the pandemic and the recession. In some other countries, life is much closer to normal. In the United States, Mr. Trump became the first president since Hoover to preside over a decline in employment.

The pragmatism gap isn’t only about recessions, either. Democrats have also been more aggressive about making job-creating investments — in medical research and clean energy, for example — that the private sector does not make when left to its own devices. Occasionally, a Democratic president has even been willing to go against type in order to encourage growth. Mr. Clinton, persuaded that deficit reduction could bring down interest rates and accelerate growth, scrapped some early spending plans and raised taxes. Interest rates fell, and the economy boomed.

Some past Republican presidents took a similarly pragmatic approach. Despite being conservative, both Eisenhower and Nixon were nonetheless comfortable using government to help the economy when needed. The elder George Bush signed a tax increase that contributed to the deficit reduction that, in turn, fueled the 1990s boom.

For the most part, however, Republican economic policy since 1980 has revolved around a single policy: large tax cuts, tilted heavily toward the affluent. There are situations in which tax cuts can lift economic growth, but they typically involve countries with very high tax rates. The United States has had fairly low tax rates for decades.

The evidence now overwhelmingly suggests that recent tax cuts have had only a modest effect on the economy. G.D.P. grew at virtually the same rate after the 2017 Trump tax cut as before it. If anything, the Clinton tax increase of 1993 has a better claim on starting a boom than any tax cut since.

One possibility is that the two parties are both responding to the interest groups that support and finance them, suggested Ms. Wanamaker, who worked in the White House Council of Economic Advisers during the Trump administration. But the Democratic-leaning groups (like labor unions and civil-rights organizations) may favor policies that lift broad-based economic growth, while Republican-leaning groups (like the wealthy) favor policies that mostly shift income toward themselves.

These explanations are almost certainly not complete. Much of the partisan gap remains mysterious. At the end of their academic paper on it, Mr. Blinder, a former Federal Reserve vice chairman and Clinton administration official, and Mr. Watson encourage other economists to study the issue.

But if the causes are not fully clear, the pattern is. The American economy has performed much better under Democratic administrations than Republican ones, over both the last few decades and the last century. And as Ms. Wanamaker said, “Administrations do certainly have the ability to affect economic outcomes.”

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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 03, 2021, 09:14:49 AM
Someone needs to let the NY Times in on Covid.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 03, 2021, 09:40:00 AM
🤷‍♂️

Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on February 03, 2021, 03:50:47 PM
Skunk51 sits at his keyboard all day in the shithole called Norristown  furiously typing away and dreading his next heart attack.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on February 03, 2021, 03:53:27 PM
funk51 has sunk to Lurker levels of TDS on his way down to Straw levels. :-\
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 03, 2021, 05:02:09 PM

Opinion Columnist


At least they are being honest about the article this time. ;)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 04, 2021, 07:00:10 AM
Skunk51 sits at his keyboard all day in the shithole called Norristown  furiously typing away and dreading his next heart attack.
   name calling and wishing evil on me, what are you like 12 years old ?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on February 04, 2021, 07:25:05 AM
So sensitive about your feelings and so insensitive about the feelings of others...
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 04, 2021, 11:01:23 AM
So sensitive about your feelings and so insensitive about the feelings of others...
                   you're quite the fool aren't you . what are you even talking about, I'm guessing you don't even know.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 04, 2021, 12:19:50 PM
funk51 has sunk to Lurker levels of TDS on his way down to Straw levels. :-\
             you got me wrong, I'm just trying to keep your hero's'  memory alive in the ensuing four years.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2021, 04:00:59 PM
             you got me wrong, I'm just trying to keep your hero's'  memory alive in the ensuing four years.

Tell us what policies of the 40 something executive orders that Biden reversed that you think will help this country and why. Just an FYI, Trump even now Is still the most powerful person in country....yes, even more than Biden and his administration. Hope that helped. Why do you think the left is still Unconstitutionally trying to take him down? Lol

Try to have an original thought
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Earl1972 on February 04, 2021, 04:16:47 PM
Tell us what policies of the 40 something executive orders that Biden reversed that you think will help this country and why. t

they never do and they never will

i'm convinced all these biden voters are just a bunch of angry losers that want to see as much chaos and destruction as possible, misery loves company

E
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2021, 04:28:13 PM
they never do and they never will

i'm convinced all these biden voters are just a bunch of angry losers that want to see as much chaos and destruction as possible, misery loves company

E

If you noticed the articles that Funk posts are all from communist propaganda sites that he thinks justifies what I have no idea. Lol
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Primemuscle on February 04, 2021, 04:34:08 PM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=670776.0;attach=1293378;image)

Donny boy, a lot of folks hope you are done, over, fini, kaput!

Your legacy is crumbling fast and your reach to supporters is suddenly and severely limited.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2021, 04:35:06 PM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=670776.0;attach=1293378;image)

Donny boy, a lot of folks hope you are done, over, fini, kaput!

Lol...sure😂😂

Even Dems are regretting their votes...but, it’s not like we said “we told ya so”
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: WalterWhite on February 04, 2021, 04:54:44 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/7CVB6qt/iu-2.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: AbrahamG on February 04, 2021, 05:00:03 PM
Lol...sure😂😂

Even Dems are regretting their votes...but, it’s not like we said “we told ya so”

LMAO.  You really are out to lunch. 
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Earl1972 on February 04, 2021, 05:00:55 PM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=670776.0;attach=1293378;image)

Donny boy, a lot of folks hope you are done, over, fini, kaput!

Your legacy is crumbling fast and your reach to supporters is suddenly and severely limited.

are you going to tell us how biden's executive orders benefit america?   

are your antifa friends still burning portland?  how long until they reach your neighborhood?

E
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Earl1972 on February 04, 2021, 05:01:34 PM
Lol...sure😂😂

Even Dems are regretting their votes...but, it’s not like we said “we told ya so”

i don't think so, they would choose death over being thought of as "racist"

E
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2021, 05:41:15 PM
LMAO.  You really are out to lunch.

We’ll start here and progress through the night

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2021/01/27/why-four-democrats-are-suddenly-regretting-supporting-joe-biden-n2583828

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/24/joseph-r-biden-voters-experience-regret-after-new-/

Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: AbrahamG on February 04, 2021, 06:22:39 PM
We’ll start here and progress through the night

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2021/01/27/why-four-democrats-are-suddenly-regretting-supporting-joe-biden-n2583828

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/24/joseph-r-biden-voters-experience-regret-after-new-/

Nice sources.  Akin to if I referenced The Onion.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Straw Man on February 04, 2021, 06:23:38 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/7CVB6qt/iu-2.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

Just goes to show that the D-List actor wasn't that bright (a common trait among Republicans)

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Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Straw Man on February 04, 2021, 06:25:11 PM
Nice sources.  Akin to if I referenced The Onion.

just be glad he didn't post a link to Epoch Times
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on February 04, 2021, 06:39:31 PM
             you got me wrong, I'm just trying to keep your hero's'  memory alive in the ensuing four years.
I'm pretty sure I don't have any heroes Mr Smellslikefunk51 :-*
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2021, 07:14:35 PM
just be glad he didn't post a link to Epoch Times

Debunk any article I’ve posted from them or any other source I’ve used. You know it’s so easy to debunk your communist propaganda? Because you let the fake stories play out for a few days or weeks until the full story comes out, it debunks itself.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Primemuscle on February 04, 2021, 11:54:47 PM
are you going to tell us how biden's executive orders benefit america?   

are your antifa friends still burning portland?  how long until they reach your neighborhood?

E

No, I am not going to bother telling you this. Believe what you will. Biden is President now. Trump is long gone. Move on.

Rioters, regardless of why they are rioting, are not my friends, be they Antifa or whatever. It is going to be a very long time before violent civil unrest reaches my neighborhood. I am not the least bit worried about this happening. But, thanks for the warning.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2021, 12:00:12 AM
just be glad he didn't post a link to Epoch Times

LOL! Actually, I rather enjoy it when he does. Read past Epoch's headlines and the story falls apart. Makes me wonder about his and his compatriattes attention spans.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 05, 2021, 04:46:30 AM
     
   
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Grape Ape on February 05, 2021, 04:51:23 AM
Trump is long gone. Move on.



LOL, he's not long gone - Congress is still going to waste time and $ with an impeachment
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 05, 2021, 05:33:24 AM
LOL, he's not long gone - Congress is still going to waste time and $ with an impeachment
           
                  I agree total waste of time . just let him leave in total disgrace, he's earned that much.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Iron-Muscle on February 05, 2021, 05:35:26 AM
totally glad we have a child pervert is his place, prime approved!


https://www.air.tv/watch?v=wbMDDj-RQRG2qyqqZ8sxbw
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 05, 2021, 05:35:56 AM
I'm pretty sure I don't have any heroes Mr Smellslikefunk51 :-*
     
        smellslikefunk, good one.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 05, 2021, 05:38:14 AM
totally glad we have a child pervert is his place, prime approved!


https://www.air.tv/watch?v=wbMDDj-RQRG2qyqqZ8sxbw
   
      joe just sniffs them. that's the secret to his powers.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 05, 2021, 09:00:43 AM
Tell us what policies of the 40 something executive orders that Biden reversed that you think will help this country and why. Just an FYI, Trump even now Is still the most powerful person in country....yes, even more than Biden and his administration. Hope that helped. Why do you think the left is still Unconstitutionally trying to take him down? Lol

Try to have an original thought

.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: pamith on February 05, 2021, 09:09:55 AM
It's not over.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Grape Ape on February 05, 2021, 11:55:20 AM
I agree total waste of time . just let him leave in total disgrace, he's earned that much.

Like any President, he did both good and bad.

Your thread title terminology is disappointing.

Shows you're not really in for a discussion.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 05, 2021, 12:33:59 PM
Like any President, he did both good and bad.

Your thread title terminology is disappointing.

Shows you're not really in for a discussion.
   
      I'm just trying to keep his memory alive while injecting a little humor , some people got to learn to lighten up. life's too short for all this bottled up hate.   
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Earl1972 on February 05, 2021, 07:55:16 PM
No, I am not going to bother telling you this. Believe what you will. Biden is President now. Trump is long gone. Move on.

Rioters, regardless of why they are rioting, are not my friends, be they Antifa or whatever. It is going to be a very long time before violent civil unrest reaches my neighborhood. I am not the least bit worried about this happening. But, thanks for the warning.

haha my point is proven, you voted for biden because he isn't trump you couldn't care less what biden does

what makes you think they won't come for your neighborhood?  you are white and have enough money to live comfortably in retirement, from their POV that is "white privilege" so why wouldn't they target your neighborhood?  is your plan to just tell them you are on their side?

E

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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 05, 2021, 08:07:40 PM
Tell us what policies of the 40 something executive orders that Biden reversed that you think will help this country and why. Just an FYI, Trump even now Is still the most powerful person in country....yes, even more than Biden and his administration. Hope that helped. Why do you think the left is still Unconstitutionally trying to take him down? Lol

Try to have an original thought

Still nothing? 🤔
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 07, 2021, 11:31:43 AM
&t=41s       
   
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Iron-Muscle on February 07, 2021, 11:36:30 AM
joe

Joe Biden Forces Little Girl to Touch His Crotch

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/video-joe-biden-forces-little-girl-touch-crotch/
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 08, 2021, 03:32:15 AM
Hillary has nothing to hide because everyone knows she's crooked as hell.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 08, 2021, 12:23:22 PM
Hillary has nothing to hide because everyone knows she's crooked as hell.
            how comes trump is the only president who won't release his taxes ?  trump is  the only president to hide in a bunker because he was afraid of American citizens.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 08, 2021, 12:26:27 PM
            how comes trump is the only president who won't release his taxes ?  trump is  the only president to hide in a bunker because he was afraid of American citizens.
Lindsey graham didn't even make the top 12 and where's Rudy G
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 08, 2021, 12:29:17 PM
 :)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 08, 2021, 01:03:19 PM
Tell us what policies of the 40 something executive orders that Biden reversed that you think will help this country and why. Just an FYI, Trump even now Is still the most powerful person in country....yes, even more than Biden and his administration. Hope that helped. Why do you think the left is still Unconstitutionally trying to take him down? Lol

Try to have an original thought

Still nothing?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 08, 2021, 01:57:20 PM
            how comes trump is the only president who won't release his taxes ?  trump is  the only president to hide in a bunker because he was afraid of American citizens.
You do realize Trump's businesses get audited by the state and Feds, right?  Maybe when you get your Covid vaccine you should ask for your TDS shot as well.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: illuminati on February 08, 2021, 02:24:20 PM
:)

On Her Level FFS - A Liar & Completely Bat Shit Crazy - I’ll leave you to remain on her Level
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 08, 2021, 03:57:28 PM
:)

And became a bartender. ;D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on February 08, 2021, 06:18:18 PM
Holy shit, did funk51 just out Strawman as his gimmick?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 08, 2021, 06:43:47 PM
Holy shit, did funk51 just out Strawman as his gimmick?

🤔
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 08, 2021, 11:06:13 PM
Holy shit, did funk51 just out Strawman as his gimmick?

 ;D ;D

No Sleazy Joseph medal for Bob aka funk51/Straw  :'(
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Henda on February 09, 2021, 01:47:50 AM
:)

What we have to be a dumb ugly donkey toothed cunt to say anything about her?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Iron-Muscle on February 09, 2021, 02:12:35 AM
we better not say anything about aoc, she has a piece of paper from some lib-college that millions of useless a-holes graduated. wow  ::)
she must be way above everyone in brains (she may have misplaced hers)

ha dumbass
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 09, 2021, 06:24:25 AM
     
     
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: mac33 on February 09, 2021, 08:18:19 AM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: mac33 on February 09, 2021, 08:20:15 AM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 09, 2021, 03:50:31 PM
   what a shit show.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 09, 2021, 04:38:18 PM
   what a shit show.


CNN

Viewer discretion is advised.

Who makes up this shit? ;D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Henda on February 10, 2021, 09:16:29 AM


For fucks sake look at that vile cunts face in the still preview how can anyone look at that and not want to punch it
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 10, 2021, 10:22:35 AM
Prosecutors in Georgia open criminal investigation into Trump's attempt to influence election results
By Jason Morris and Devan Cole, CNN

Updated 12:10 PM ET, Wed February 10, 2021
Election law analyst on Trump phone call: It could be a crime

Cheney doubles down on Trump criticism in Fox News interview

Secretary of State outlines President Biden's foreign policy
Brent Mayr ebof vpx
Lawyer for accused Capitol rioter reacts to Trump team's statement

George Conway takes on Trump's trial arguments
Rep.-elect Ron Wright, R-Texas, attends a new member welcome briefing in the Capitol Visitor Center on November 15, 2018
GOP Rep. Ron Wright dies following Covid-19 diagnosis
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Hear Rep. Ayanna Pressley's impassioned impeachment message
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'Ignorance': Doctor reacts to Rand Paul going maskless on Senate floor

Yellen: No reason we should suffer through a long, slow recovery
US President Donald Trump arrives for the Operation Warp Speed Vaccine Summit in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building adjacent to the White House in Washington, DC on December 8, 2020. - US President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed an executive order "to ensure that American citizens have first priority to receive American vaccines."
It is unclear how the order would be enforced, as vaccine makers have already inked in deals with other countries. (Photo by SAUL LOEB / AFP) (Photo by SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)
Election law analyst on Trump phone call: It could be a crime

Cuomo: Trump's own lawyer made the best point of the day

Day 1 of Trump impeachment trial focuses on constitutionality

Conway on Trump's lawyers: This is the best he can do?
Joe Biden 0209
Biden says he's focused on Covid-19 relief bill, not Trump's fate
Sen. Bill Cassidy 0209
This GOP senator changed his vote on constitutionality of impeachment trial
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Stormy Daniels on Trump lawsuit: 'I have nothing left to lose'

Raskin warns of 'January exception' at Trump's impeachment trial

Cheney doubles down on Trump criticism in Fox News interview

Secretary of State outlines President Biden's foreign policy
Brent Mayr ebof vpx
Lawyer for accused Capitol rioter reacts to Trump team's statement

George Conway takes on Trump's trial arguments
Rep.-elect Ron Wright, R-Texas, attends a new member welcome briefing in the Capitol Visitor Center on November 15, 2018
GOP Rep. Ron Wright dies following Covid-19 diagnosis
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Hear Rep. Ayanna Pressley's impassioned impeachment message
Rand Paul maskless 0204
'Ignorance': Doctor reacts to Rand Paul going maskless on Senate floor

Yellen: No reason we should suffer through a long, slow recovery
US President Donald Trump arrives for the Operation Warp Speed Vaccine Summit in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building adjacent to the White House in Washington, DC on December 8, 2020. - US President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed an executive order "to ensure that American citizens have first priority to receive American vaccines."
It is unclear how the order would be enforced, as vaccine makers have already inked in deals with other countries. (Photo by SAUL LOEB / AFP) (Photo by SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)
Election law analyst on Trump phone call: It could be a crime

Cuomo: Trump's own lawyer made the best point of the day

Day 1 of Trump impeachment trial focuses on constitutionality

Conway on Trump's lawyers: This is the best he can do?
Joe Biden 0209
Biden says he's focused on Covid-19 relief bill, not Trump's fate
Sen. Bill Cassidy 0209
This GOP senator changed his vote on constitutionality of impeachment trial
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Stormy Daniels on Trump lawsuit: 'I have nothing left to lose'

Raskin warns of 'January exception' at Trump's impeachment trial
Washington (CNN)A prosecutor in Fulton County, Georgia, has opened a criminal investigation into former President Donald Trump for his "attempts to influence the administration of the 2020 Georgia general election."

In a letter sent Wednesday to numerous Georgia state election officials, including Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis requested that they preserve documents related to Trump's phone call last month in which he pushed Raffensperger to "find" votes to reverse his election loss.
Willis said the "investigation includes, but is not limited to, potential violations of Georgia election law prohibiting the solicitation of election fraud, the making of false statements to state and local government bodies, conspiracy, racketeering, violation of oath of office, and any involvement in violence of threats related to the election's administration."
"This matter is of high priority, and I am confident that as fellow law enforcement officers sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States and Georgia, our acquisition of information and evidence of potential crimes via interviews, documents, videos and electronic records will be cooperative," the letter reads.
Trump himself is not named in the letter, but Willis' office confirmed to CNN that the probe concerns his phone call with Raffensperger. The letter also says Fulton County authorities currently "have no reason to believe that any Georgia official is a target" in the probe.
The investigation was earlier reported by The New York Times.
The criminal probe adds to a growing list of significant legal pressures facing Trump, including a Senate impeachment trial in which House Democrats are pushing to convict him for inciting the deadly insurrection at the US Capitol, and a separate investigation launched by Raffensperger's office into his attempts to overturn the state's election results.
In that probe, Raffensperger, the state's top election official, is also investigating Trump's one-hour phone call, in which Trump lambasted his fellow Republican for refusing to falsely say that he won the election in Georgia and repeatedly touted baseless claims of election fraud.
There were 18 attempted calls from the White House to the Georgia Secretary of State's Office between the election and the January 2 phone call between Trump and Raffensperger, a Georgia state official has confirmed to CNN.
There have been no credible allegations of any issues with voting that would have impacted the election, as affirmed by dozens of judges, governors, election officials, the Electoral College, the Justice Department, the Department of Homeland Security and the US Supreme Court.
Michael J. Moore, the former US attorney for the Middle District of Georgia between 2010 and 2015 under President Barack Obama, told CNN the multiple calls "sort of start to tell the story that this was not an official trying to talk to another official about problems that he or she might see in an election."
"It's more about how do I get to the place that that I can win the race," he said, adding that the now-infamous call "sounds like any other call that you might have with an organized crime ring or a drug conspiracy ring or something.
"And that is that you've got almost code talking about -- this is what I need you to do, if you could just help me out here," Moore told CNN.
This story has been updated with additional background information and reaction.
CNN's Erica Henry and Jim Acosta contributed to this report.

Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 10, 2021, 11:04:32 AM
 ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 11, 2021, 04:26:36 AM
He would fit right in with the democrats.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: tom joad on February 11, 2021, 08:13:03 AM
no need for "deprogramming" when a new MAGA mega city (segregated from society) could be on the horizon . . .

https://twitter.com/jaredpushner/status/1359723319206047746?s=21
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 11, 2021, 10:27:35 AM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 13, 2021, 06:10:50 AM
New details about Trump-McCarthy shouting match show Trump refused to call off the rioters
By Jamie Gangel, Kevin Liptak, Michael Warren and Marshall Cohen, CNN

Updated 10:29 PM ET, Fri February 12, 2021
US President Donald Trump (L) walks next to US House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) after a meeting at the US Capitol with the House Republican Conference in Washington, DC on June 19, 2018. (Photo by Mandel Ngan / AFP)        (Photo credit should read MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images)

Trump/Bernstein split
Bernstein: Trump is 'first seditious president in our history'

DOJ: Oath Keeper leader waited for Trump's direction
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) leaves after the conclusion of the second day of the second impeachment trial of former US President Donald Trump on Capitol Hill February 10, 2021, in Washington, DC. - Impeachment prosecutors aired terrifying, never-before-seen footage of senior US politicians fleeing for their lives during the January assault on Congress by Donald Trump supporters on day two of the former president's Senate trial. (Photo by Nicholas Kamm / AFP) (Photo by NICHOLAS KAMM/AFP via Getty Images)
'Trump broke him': Atlantic senior editor on Rubio's impeachment take

How impeachment managers wrapped up their case against Trump
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'We're medical doctors, not spin doctors': Reiner calls out Trump doctor
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Biden slams Trump over Covid-19 vaccine rollout
WASHINGTON, DC - OCTOBER 02: U.S. President Donald Trump leaves the White House for Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on the South Lawn of the White House on October 2, 2020 in Washington, DC. President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump have both tested positive for coronavirus. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
Source: Doctors considered putting Trump on a ventilator

Avlon: We saw Trump supporters turn patriotism into hate
US President Donald Trump (L) walks next to US House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) after a meeting at the US Capitol with the House Republican Conference in Washington, DC on June 19, 2018. (Photo by Mandel Ngan / AFP)        (Photo credit should read MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images)
New details emerge in McCarthy's call with Trump on January 6

Trump attorneys present their case in under 4 hours
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo speaks during the daily media briefing at the Office of the Governor of the State of New York on July 23, 2020 in New York City.
Gov. Cuomo accused of covering up nursing home Covid-19 deaths
US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley and US President Donald Trump wait for a a meeting on United Nations Reform at UN headquarters in New York on September 18, 2017. / AFP PHOTO / Brendan Smialowski        (Photo credit should read BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP/Getty Images)
Key Republican breaks with Trump: 'We shouldn't have followed him'
James Clyburn 0212
Rep. Clyburn calls senators' meeting with Trump defense team 'inappropriate'

Avlon: GOP senators on the fence need to remember this
Harry Enten 0211
Enten: Majority of GOP senators not up for reelection in 2 years
Trump/Bernstein split
Bernstein: Trump is 'first seditious president in our history'

DOJ: Oath Keeper leader waited for Trump's direction
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) leaves after the conclusion of the second day of the second impeachment trial of former US President Donald Trump on Capitol Hill February 10, 2021, in Washington, DC. - Impeachment prosecutors aired terrifying, never-before-seen footage of senior US politicians fleeing for their lives during the January assault on Congress by Donald Trump supporters on day two of the former president's Senate trial. (Photo by Nicholas Kamm / AFP) (Photo by NICHOLAS KAMM/AFP via Getty Images)
'Trump broke him': Atlantic senior editor on Rubio's impeachment take

How impeachment managers wrapped up their case against Trump
Conley presser 10042020 DLE top
'We're medical doctors, not spin doctors': Reiner calls out Trump doctor
biden covid 19 vaccines trump did not do his job sot vpx_00000525.png
Biden slams Trump over Covid-19 vaccine rollout
WASHINGTON, DC - OCTOBER 02: U.S. President Donald Trump leaves the White House for Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on the South Lawn of the White House on October 2, 2020 in Washington, DC. President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump have both tested positive for coronavirus. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
Source: Doctors considered putting Trump on a ventilator

Avlon: We saw Trump supporters turn patriotism into hate
US President Donald Trump (L) walks next to US House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) after a meeting at the US Capitol with the House Republican Conference in Washington, DC on June 19, 2018. (Photo by Mandel Ngan / AFP)        (Photo credit should read MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images)
New details emerge in McCarthy's call with Trump on January 6

Trump attorneys present their case in under 4 hours
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo speaks during the daily media briefing at the Office of the Governor of the State of New York on July 23, 2020 in New York City.
Gov. Cuomo accused of covering up nursing home Covid-19 deaths
US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley and US President Donald Trump wait for a a meeting on United Nations Reform at UN headquarters in New York on September 18, 2017. / AFP PHOTO / Brendan Smialowski        (Photo credit should read BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP/Getty Images)
Key Republican breaks with Trump: 'We shouldn't have followed him'
James Clyburn 0212
Rep. Clyburn calls senators' meeting with Trump defense team 'inappropriate'

Avlon: GOP senators on the fence need to remember this
Harry Enten 0211
Enten: Majority of GOP senators not up for reelection in 2 years
Trump/Bernstein split
Bernstein: Trump is 'first seditious president in our history'
Washington (CNN)In an expletive-laced phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy while the Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters cared more about the election results than McCarthy did.

"Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are," Trump said, according to lawmakers who were briefed on the call afterward by McCarthy.
McCarthy insisted that the rioters were Trump's supporters and begged Trump to call them off.
Trump's comment set off what Republican lawmakers familiar with the call described as a shouting match between the two men. A furious McCarthy told the then-President the rioters were breaking into his office through the windows, and asked Trump, "Who the f--k do you think you are talking to?" according to a Republican lawmaker familiar with the call.
The newly revealed details of the call, described to CNN by multiple Republicans briefed on it, provide critical insight into the President's state of mind as rioters were overrunning the Capitol. The existence of the call and some of its details were first reported by Punchbowl News and discussed publicly by McCarthy.
The Republican members of Congress said the exchange showed Trump had no intention of calling off the rioters even as lawmakers were pleading with him to intervene. Several said it amounted to a dereliction of his presidential duty.
"He is not a blameless observer, he was rooting for them," a Republican member of Congress said. "On January 13, Kevin McCarthy said on the floor of the House that the President bears responsibility and he does."
Speaking to the President from inside the besieged Capitol, McCarthy pressed Trump to call off his supporters and engaged in a heated disagreement about who comprised the crowd. Trump's comment about the would-be insurrectionists caring more about the election results than McCarthy did was first mentioned by Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler, a Republican from Washington state, in a town hall earlier this week, and was confirmed to CNN by Herrera Beutler and other Republicans briefed on the conversation.
"You have to look at what he did during the insurrection to confirm where his mind was at," Herrera Beutler, one of 10 House Republicans who voted last month to impeach Trump, told CNN. "That line right there demonstrates to me that either he didn't care, which is impeachable, because you cannot allow an attack on your soil, or he wanted it to happen and was OK with it, which makes me so angry."
"We should never stand for that, for any reason, under any party flag," she added, voicing her extreme frustration: "I'm trying really hard not to say the F-word."
Herrera Beutler went a step further on Friday night, calling on others to speak up about any other details they might know regarding conversations Trump and Pence had on January 6.
"To the patriots who were standing next to the former president as these conversations were happening, or even to the former vice president: if you have something to add here, now would be the time," she said in a statement.
Another Republican member of Congress said the call was problematic for Trump.
"I think it speaks to the former President's mindset," said Rep. Anthony Gonzalez, an Ohio Republican who also voted to impeach Trump last month. "He was not sorry to see his unyieldingly loyal vice president or the Congress under attack by the mob he inspired. In fact, it seems he was happy about it or at the least enjoyed the scenes that were horrifying to most Americans across the country."
As senators prepare to determine Trump's fate, multiple Republicans thought the details of the call were important to the proceedings because they believe it paints a damning portrait of Trump's lack of action during the attack. At least one of the sources who spoke to CNN took detailed notes of McCarthy's recounting of the call.
Trump and McCarthy did not respond to requests for comment.
It took Trump several hours after the attack began to eventually encourage his supporters to "go home in peace" -- a tweet that came at the urging of his top aides.
At Trump's impeachment trial Friday, his lawyers argued that Trump did in fact try to calm the rioters with a series of tweets while the attack unfolded. But his lawyers cherry-picked his tweets, focusing on his request for supporters to "remain peaceful" without mentioning that he also attacked then-Vice President Mike Pence and waited hours to explicitly urge rioters to leave the Capitol.
A source close to Pence said Trump's legal team was not telling the truth when attorney Michael van der Veen said at the trial that "at no point" did the then-President know his vice president was in danger.
Asked whether van der Veen was lying, the source said, "Yes." Former Pence aides are still fuming over Trump's actions on January 6, insisting he never checked on the vice president as Pence was being rushed from danger by his US Secret Service detail.
It's unclear to what extent these new details were known by the House Democratic impeachment managers or whether the team considered calling McCarthy as a witness. The managers have preserved the option to call witnesses in the ongoing impeachment trial, although that option remains unlikely as the trial winds down.
The House Republican leader had been forthcoming with his conference about details of his conversations with Trump on and after January 6.
Trump himself has not taken any responsibility in public.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 13, 2021, 06:13:20 AM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 13, 2021, 12:10:55 PM
Biggest thread backfire ever.... lol
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 13, 2021, 01:16:11 PM
Biggest thread backfire ever.... lol
   not really , I remember one on how trump would still be president on jan 21 even though he lost the election by over 8 million votes. this thread was designed to help the trumptards get acclimated to life after trump. which is still a work in progress.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Henda on February 13, 2021, 01:27:26 PM
   not really , I remember one on how trump would still be president on jan 21 even though he lost the election by over 8 million votes. this thread was designed to help the trumptards get acclimated to life after trump. which is still a work in progress.

You have mentioned trump 1000x more than anyone else since the election
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: tom joad on February 13, 2021, 01:39:56 PM
   not really , I remember one on how trump would still be president on jan 21 even though he lost the election by over 8 million votes. this thread was designed to help the trumptards get acclimated to life after trump. which is still a work in progress.

Biden's popular vote margin over Trump was 7M+ (not 8.)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 13, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
   not really , I remember one on how trump would still be president on jan 21 even though he lost the election by over 8 million votes. this thread was designed to help the trumptards get acclimated to life after trump. which is still a work in progress.

LMFAO...in real life Biden would be lucky if he got 40-50mil "votes". You're that delusional lol
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 13, 2021, 01:49:43 PM
Trump acquitted. Bitches.

I honestly think he should take over for Rush for the next 4 years. It would be comedy gold having him report the left dismantling the country.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 13, 2021, 02:33:49 PM
Biden's popular vote margin over Trump was 7M+ (not 8.)
                              US election results 2020: Joe Biden's defeat of Donald Trump
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Key states to watch
The race for the presidency is usually decided in a small number of key battleground states that switch party allegiance between elections.

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Arizona
11 electoral college votes
Winner called 3 months ago
Est. vote count 100%
Candidate   Votes   Percent
Joe Biden   1,672,143   49.4%
 
 Donald Trump   1,661,686   49.1%
 
 Jo Jorgensen   51,465   1.5%
 
Why does it matter?
Arizona last voted Democratic for President in 1996, but the state has become increasingly competitive as the Hispanic share of the electorate has grown. The Democrats managed to gain a number of seats in the 2018 midterms here.


Florida
29 electoral college votes
Winner called 3 months ago
Est. vote count 100%
Candidate   Votes   Percent
Donald Trump   5,668,731   51.2%
 
 Joe Biden   5,297,045   47.9%
 
 Jo Jorgensen   70,324   0.6%
 
Why does it matter?
Florida has voted with the eventual winner in all but one presidential election since 1964. It is also the swing state with the largest population and the most electoral college votes.


Georgia
16 electoral college votes
Winner called 3 months ago
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Joe Biden   2,473,633   49.5%
 
 Donald Trump   2,461,854   49.3%
 
 Jo Jorgensen   62,229   1.2%
 
Why does it matter?
Long a Republican stronghold, southern Georgia has recently become more of a battleground state due to its growing black electorate. In the 2018 governor’s election, Republican Brian Kemp defeated Democrat Stacey Abrams by just 1.4 percentage points.


Michigan
16 electoral college votes
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Joe Biden   2,804,040   50.6%
 
 Donald Trump   2,649,852   47.8%
 
 Jo Jorgensen   60,381   1.1%
 
Why does it matter?
Trump won Michigan by just 0.2 percentage points in 2016 – the narrowest margin of any state. In the six elections prior, the state consistently voted Democratic.                                                  I stand corrected
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 13, 2021, 02:51:22 PM
funk
if you stepped back and looked at your posts on here, your life, etc. What would you see?
a loser. And I dont even hate you. You really are a loser

I mean I dislike coach cause he posts like you, but on the opposite end, but at least he is successful in life and has what I think is a pretty cool life.

you, not so much
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 13, 2021, 02:53:57 PM
He can stop now.

Nobody reads these walls of text anyway.

We just come in here to laugh at him.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 13, 2021, 03:12:20 PM
                              US election results 2020: Joe Biden's defeat of Donald Trump
Georgia recertifies election results, confirming Biden’s victory, despite Trump’s continued refusal to formally concede

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Arizona
11 electoral college votes
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Candidate   Votes   Percent
Joe Biden   1,672,143   49.4%
 
 Donald Trump   1,661,686   49.1%
 
 Jo Jorgensen   51,465   1.5%
 
Why does it matter?
Arizona last voted Democratic for President in 1996, but the state has become increasingly competitive as the Hispanic share of the electorate has grown. The Democrats managed to gain a number of seats in the 2018 midterms here.


Florida
29 electoral college votes
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Candidate   Votes   Percent
Donald Trump   5,668,731   51.2%
 
 Joe Biden   5,297,045   47.9%
 
 Jo Jorgensen   70,324   0.6%
 
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Florida has voted with the eventual winner in all but one presidential election since 1964. It is also the swing state with the largest population and the most electoral college votes.


Georgia
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Joe Biden   2,473,633   49.5%
 
 Donald Trump   2,461,854   49.3%
 
 Jo Jorgensen   62,229   1.2%
 
Why does it matter?
Long a Republican stronghold, southern Georgia has recently become more of a battleground state due to its growing black electorate. In the 2018 governor’s election, Republican Brian Kemp defeated Democrat Stacey Abrams by just 1.4 percentage points.


Michigan
16 electoral college votes
Winner called 3 months ago
Est. vote count 100%
Candidate   Votes   Percent
Joe Biden   2,804,040   50.6%
 
 Donald Trump   2,649,852   47.8%
 
 Jo Jorgensen   60,381   1.1%
 
Why does it matter?
Trump won Michigan by just 0.2 percentage points in 2016 – the narrowest margin of any state. In the six elections prior, the state consistently voted Democratic.                                                  I stand corrected

You act like this actually means something. You’re kinda like the House attorneys..lol
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: IroNat on February 13, 2021, 03:20:43 PM
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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 13, 2021, 04:05:09 PM
funk
if you stepped back and looked at your posts on here, your life, etc. What would you see?
a loser. And I dont even hate you. You really are a loser

I mean I dislike coach cause he posts like you, but on the opposite end, but at least he is successful in life and has what I think is a pretty cool life.

you, not so much
   I can see that, I pretty much like every one on here, even coach. I'm old and retired . at this stage of life every day above ground is a good day. I'm not really into politics , I just enjoy watching everyone melting down and coming to the defense of the orange man. to me it's just a goof. judge not less ye be judged.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on February 14, 2021, 06:10:35 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-acquitted-in-second-impeachment-trial-for-inciting-jan-6-capitol-riot
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on February 14, 2021, 06:13:54 AM
   I can see that, I pretty much like every one on here, even coach. I'm old and retired . at this stage of life every day above ground is a good day. I'm not really into politics , I just enjoy watching everyone melting down and coming to the defense of the orange man. to me it's just a goof. judge not less ye be judged.




Yeah sure...You are full of vitriol and unhappiness and it's reflected in your many posts about Trump. You are easy to read.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 14, 2021, 11:04:14 AM



Yeah sure...You are full of vitriol and unhappiness and it's reflected in your many posts about Trump. You are easy to read.
  must be especially easy for you, what, given your sixth grade reading level. ;D, now it's on to the criminal trial. ;D ;D ;D  have a nice day.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on February 14, 2021, 11:18:33 AM
  must be especially easy for you, what, given your sixth grade reading level. ;D, now it's on to the criminal trial. ;D ;D ;D  have a nice day.
State of New York is waiting.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: gmflex on February 14, 2021, 12:57:39 PM


        ;D.                                       ;D

              There lining up...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/13/politics/trump-legal-problems-post-impeachment/index.html

         ;D.                                      ;D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on February 15, 2021, 04:40:05 AM
Good chance that Hunter will be indicted and The payoffs to his daddy will be revealed....Then we can hear the excuses coming from skunk.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 15, 2021, 05:41:14 AM
Good chance that Hunter will be indicted and The payoffs to his daddy will be revealed....Then we can hear the excuses coming from skunk.
 
&t=48s           name calling, your immaturity is showing again.  by the way hunter isn't the president last I heard. have a rice day. :)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 15, 2021, 03:50:06 PM
 
&t=48s           name calling, your immaturity is showing again.  by the way hunter isn't the president last I heard. have a rice day. :)


So who is the president   ::) funk41  :D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 16, 2021, 10:24:58 AM


So who is the president   ::) funk41  :D
   
       hope you are doing well mister knight.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 16, 2021, 10:29:32 AM
 :)

Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 16, 2021, 11:27:02 AM
:)
    see that's the trouble in this country the two political party system is becoming too much like us against them. where's the common ground , what happened to working for the benefit of all   American people.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 16, 2021, 01:54:40 PM


Still no Sleazy Joe FWEEDOM medal for old funk41  :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on February 16, 2021, 02:58:42 PM
Funk calls everyone who voted for Trump a retard and then laments the division in the country...Jeez
Do you not have any insight at all?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 16, 2021, 03:43:59 PM
    see that's the trouble in this country the two political party system is becoming too much like us against them. where's the common ground , what happened to working for the benefit of all   American people.

Maybe one of these days you can debate without memes and edited propaganda videos..
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 16, 2021, 03:45:37 PM

Still no Sleazy Joe FWEEDOM medal for old funk41  :'( :'( :'(

Lol
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 17, 2021, 05:57:39 AM
Funk calls everyone who voted for Trump a retard and then laments the division in the country...Jeez
Do you not have any insight at all?
  I  never said that, I don't resort to name calling who you vote for and what you say is a personal choice. I express my opinion and you get all bent out of shape. have a nice day oldgoldy.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Grape Ape on February 17, 2021, 08:47:19 AM
  I  never said that, I don't resort to name calling who you vote for

Your thread title says the opposite.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 17, 2021, 08:54:28 AM
Your thread title says the opposite.

 :D :D :D

oof thats gonna leave a mark
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 17, 2021, 10:23:19 AM
Your thread title says the opposite.
             there's a big difference between a trumptard and a retard. a retard is pretty much born that way, a trumptard gradually grows into one. ::)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 17, 2021, 10:26:48 AM
     here's a perfect example into the making of a trumptard.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 17, 2021, 10:28:45 AM
             there's a big difference between a trumptard and a retard. a retard is pretty much born that way, a trumptard gradually grows into one. ::)

its still name calling. Lol you and coach are equally stupid
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 17, 2021, 10:47:56 AM
its still name calling. Lol you and coach are equally stupid
                               Trumptard
texan redneck most likely over 40 cant respect peoples opinions, thinks democrats are evil, homophobic, racist
kisses trumps ass 
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 17, 2021, 10:57:13 AM
                               Trumptard
texan redneck most likely over 40 cant respect peoples opinions, thinks democrats are evil, homophobic, racist
kisses trumps ass

its STILL name calling. Thats not a real dictionary term
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 17, 2021, 10:57:19 AM
                               Trumptard
texan redneck most likely over 40 cant respect peoples opinions, thinks democrats are evil, homophobic, racist
kisses trumps ass

Aren't you like 80?

Calling people names on the internet. ;D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 17, 2021, 11:07:49 AM
Aren't you like 80?

Calling people names on the internet. ;D

Im gonna imitate someone,.....a night with onemorerep if you guess right

Prove me wrong!!!!
Can you prove the election wasnt a fraud?
insert multiple far right wing links here
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 17, 2021, 11:29:24 AM
Im gonna imitate someone,.....a night with onemorerep if you guess right

Prove me wrong!!!!
Can you prove the election wasnt a fraud?
insert multiple far right wing links here
     
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 17, 2021, 11:31:13 AM
     


and even more name calling, and I wasnt even imitating you. Wow
you must be looking forward to death, life is pretty meaningless for you considering you said you have no political leanings but rather push Trump peoples buttons for your own entertainment. We can roll out that quote from you if need be
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 17, 2021, 12:05:47 PM
and even more name calling, and I wasnt even imitating you. Wow
you must be looking forward to death, life is pretty meaningless for you considering you said you have no political leanings but rather push Trump peoples buttons for your own entertainment. We can roll out that quote from you if need be
         
&t=121s                so you're saying that politics is the true meaning of life. that without political leanings our lives are pretty much without meaning.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 17, 2021, 12:13:05 PM
         
&t=121s                so you're saying that politics is the true meaning of life. that without political leanings our lives are pretty much without meaning.

wowowow, if thats what you got from what I posted and considering my posts that politics is stupid, you are truly gone in the head. Many, I feel bad for you, genuinely, old, trapped in the house, and a deteriorating mind
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 17, 2021, 12:24:53 PM
wowowow, if thats what you got from what I posted and considering my posts that politics is stupid, you are truly gone in the head. Many, I feel bad for you, genuinely, old, trapped in the house, and a deteriorating mind
   
      I think you may be special disturbia and I'm quite touched by your concern for my well being. have a good day, and good luck with your future life endeavors.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 17, 2021, 12:29:47 PM
   
      I think you may be special disturbia and I'm quite touched by your concern for my well being. have a good day, and good luck with your future life endeavors.

you too
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Earl1972 on February 17, 2021, 07:26:26 PM
             there's a big difference between a trumptard and a retard. a retard is pretty much born that way, a trumptard gradually grows into one. ::)

your people would cancel you for saying retard

are all the biden voters on getbig just non white?

E
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 17, 2021, 07:54:11 PM
Im gonna imitate someone,.....a night with onemorerep if you guess right

Prove me wrong!!!!
Can you prove the election wasnt a fraud?
insert multiple far right wing links here

"hahaha" you just don't get it do you *inserts navarroreport link*
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 17, 2021, 08:31:11 PM

Still no FWEEDOM Medal for old fartso Lurkerian ............ :'( :'( :'(

Lurkeriana how do U gonna "de-program" Trumps overseas sharpshooters ............. 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Kwon on February 18, 2021, 12:49:02 AM
Detrumping the progtards
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 18, 2021, 08:05:24 AM
Still no FWEEDOM Medal for old fartso Lurkerian ............ :'( :'( :'(

Lurkeriana how do U gonna "de-program" Trumps overseas sharpshooters ............. 8) 8) 8)

Why would I need to?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 18, 2021, 08:37:33 AM
"hahaha" you just don't get it do you *inserts navarroreport link*

 :D :D
well done
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 18, 2021, 10:41:42 AM
truth

Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 18, 2021, 11:01:42 AM
truth
   that is the point I was trying to make the whole time. :)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 18, 2021, 11:04:40 AM
         
                         
                                                         
   and in other news
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 18, 2021, 01:58:34 PM
truth

But she does.  And her real name is Cinnamon.   She’s just trying to make it through college while supporting her kid brother after their parents died in a tragic Midwest farming accident.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 18, 2021, 02:01:01 PM
But she does.  And her real name is Cinnamon.   She’s just trying to make it through college while supporting her kid brother after their parents died in a tragic Midwest farming accident.

I know the stripper liked me. I married her. Obviously divorced now
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 18, 2021, 06:51:44 PM
Why would I need to?

Every regional conflict (like easily predictable US civil war) attracts Internationals  ;) :D.

Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 19, 2021, 04:03:53 AM
But she does.  And her real name is Cinnamon.   She’s just trying to make it through college while supporting her kid brother after their parents died in a tragic Midwest farming accident.
We are dating the same woman.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 19, 2021, 07:23:52 AM
Every regional conflict (like easily predictable US civil war) attracts Internationals  ;) :D.

Let me know when that starts then.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Kwon on February 19, 2021, 07:29:44 AM
We are dating the same woman.

Yes
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 19, 2021, 12:43:57 PM
   
     
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 19, 2021, 01:22:41 PM
Let me know when that starts then.


If you are 50 years younger ( ;D) I would let you know !.

Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 20, 2021, 05:45:05 AM
AOC Raised $1 Million for Struggling Texans as Cruz Handled Post-Cancún PR Mess
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez seen at Capitol, Sen. Ted Cruz seen at airport
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While Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) was dealing with an embarrassing public relations disaster of his own making — flying to Cancún, Mexico, with his family while his home state was reeling from blackouts and water shutdowns amid frigid temperatures — his political adversary Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-New York) was spearheading an effort to raise funds for those in dire need.

Ocasio-Cortez announced on Thursday that she was raising money for five nonprofit groups in Texas, including food banks, organizations that provide aid to aging Texans, and organizations that focus on helping homeless populations. Within hours, the Democratic congresswoman announced that donations had surpassed $1 million.

“We officially raised $1 million for Texas relief at 9:17pm,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote in a subsequent tweet. “100% of this relief is going straight to Texan food assistance, homelessness relief, elder care, and more.”

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Millions of Texans are presently dealing with the crisis that came about after the failure of the state’s electrical grid, which runs independently of federally regulated grids in the U.S. The failure of the grid resulted in millions being without power during an unusual winter cold front in the state. At least 7 million residents were under boil-water advisories on Thursday, and many communities were dealing with food shortages as well.

On Wednesday, as millions were without power, images of Cruz and his family departing from a Texas airport for a trip to Cancún started to circulate on social media. After facing an avalanche of outrage online, Cruz, who was originally planning to stay in Mexico until Saturday, booked a flight back to the U.S. on Thursday morning, pinning the blame on his daughters for his decision to flee the state in its moment of crisis.

“With school cancelled for the week, our girls asked to take a trip with friends. Wanting to be a good dad, I flew down with them last night and am flying back this afternoon,” Cruz said in a statement.

In a subsequent interview with a local ABC affiliate station, Cruz expounded on his excuse:

They said, ‘Look, let’s take a trip. Let’s go with some of our friends and let’s get out of here and let’s go somewhere warm. And [Cruz’s wife Heidi] and I said okay.

The Texas senator claimed the trip was intended to “take care of [his] family,” even as millions of other Texan families were struggling to do the same back in the state.

Some have noted the hypocrisy of Cruz taking a vacation during an emergency situation, as the lawmaker has been vocal about others who have acted similarly. He attacked the mayor of Austin, for example, for taking a trip to Cabo during the coronavirus pandemic last year. He’s also lashed out at former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who took a beach vacation on closed state land during a state government shutdown, and spoke out against former President Barack Obama for playing golf while in office.

“I think the President should actually stand up and do his job as commander-in-chief, should spend less time on the golf course and more time doing the job to which he was elected,” Cruz said of Obama in 2014.

This week wasn’t the first time, however, that Cruz has acted in a hypocritical way. While he’s been happy to criticize others for traveling during the COVID-19 crisis, Cruz himself took a vacation to Jamaica during the Independence Day weekend last year at a time when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had warned Americans to “avoid all nonessential international travel” due to the pandemic.

Texas was seeing an upswing in new cases of coronavirus in the month preceding Cruz’s vacation travels in July. The seven-day rate of new cases on June 1, 2020, being reported in the state was at 1,499 cases per day. By July 1, that rate had jumped to 7,070 cases per day.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 20, 2021, 10:22:07 AM
AOC Raised $1 Million for Struggling Texans as Cruz Handled Post-Cancún PR Mess
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez seen at Capitol, Sen. Ted Cruz seen at airport
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While Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) was dealing with an embarrassing public relations disaster of his own making — flying to Cancún, Mexico, with his family while his home state was reeling from blackouts and water shutdowns amid frigid temperatures — his political adversary Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-New York) was spearheading an effort to raise funds for those in dire need.

Ocasio-Cortez announced on Thursday that she was raising money for five nonprofit groups in Texas, including food banks, organizations that provide aid to aging Texans, and organizations that focus on helping homeless populations. Within hours, the Democratic congresswoman announced that donations had surpassed $1 million.

“We officially raised $1 million for Texas relief at 9:17pm,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote in a subsequent tweet. “100% of this relief is going straight to Texan food assistance, homelessness relief, elder care, and more.”

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Millions of Texans are presently dealing with the crisis that came about after the failure of the state’s electrical grid, which runs independently of federally regulated grids in the U.S. The failure of the grid resulted in millions being without power during an unusual winter cold front in the state. At least 7 million residents were under boil-water advisories on Thursday, and many communities were dealing with food shortages as well.

On Wednesday, as millions were without power, images of Cruz and his family departing from a Texas airport for a trip to Cancún started to circulate on social media. After facing an avalanche of outrage online, Cruz, who was originally planning to stay in Mexico until Saturday, booked a flight back to the U.S. on Thursday morning, pinning the blame on his daughters for his decision to flee the state in its moment of crisis.

“With school cancelled for the week, our girls asked to take a trip with friends. Wanting to be a good dad, I flew down with them last night and am flying back this afternoon,” Cruz said in a statement.

In a subsequent interview with a local ABC affiliate station, Cruz expounded on his excuse:

They said, ‘Look, let’s take a trip. Let’s go with some of our friends and let’s get out of here and let’s go somewhere warm. And [Cruz’s wife Heidi] and I said okay.

The Texas senator claimed the trip was intended to “take care of [his] family,” even as millions of other Texan families were struggling to do the same back in the state.

Some have noted the hypocrisy of Cruz taking a vacation during an emergency situation, as the lawmaker has been vocal about others who have acted similarly. He attacked the mayor of Austin, for example, for taking a trip to Cabo during the coronavirus pandemic last year. He’s also lashed out at former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who took a beach vacation on closed state land during a state government shutdown, and spoke out against former President Barack Obama for playing golf while in office.

“I think the President should actually stand up and do his job as commander-in-chief, should spend less time on the golf course and more time doing the job to which he was elected,” Cruz said of Obama in 2014.

This week wasn’t the first time, however, that Cruz has acted in a hypocritical way. While he’s been happy to criticize others for traveling during the COVID-19 crisis, Cruz himself took a vacation to Jamaica during the Independence Day weekend last year at a time when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had warned Americans to “avoid all nonessential international travel” due to the pandemic.

Texas was seeing an upswing in new cases of coronavirus in the month preceding Cruz’s vacation travels in July. The seven-day rate of new cases on June 1, 2020, being reported in the state was at 1,499 cases per day. By July 1, that rate had jumped to 7,070 cases per day.


Hahahahahaha...when you start using AOC as an example for anything that helps anyone you just owned yourself again. Literally the stupidest person to ever walk just not the halls of Congress, but the fucking planet...hahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 20, 2021, 10:24:42 AM

Hahahahahaha...when you start using AOC as an example for anything that helps anyone you just owned yourself again. Literally the stupidest person to ever walk just not the halls of Congress, but the fucking planet...hahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahaha

And she is still smarter than you birther boy.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 20, 2021, 10:26:00 AM
And she is still smarter than you birther boy.

Hahahahahhaha....
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 20, 2021, 10:27:42 AM
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While Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) was dealing with an embarrassing public relations disaster of his own making — flying to Cancún, Mexico, with his family while his home state was reeling from blackouts and water shutdowns amid frigid temperatures — his political adversary Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-New York) was spearheading an effort to raise funds for those in dire need.

Ocasio-Cortez announced on Thursday that she was raising money for five nonprofit groups in Texas, including food banks, organizations that provide aid to aging Texans, and organizations that focus on helping homeless populations. Within hours, the Democratic congresswoman announced that donations had surpassed $1 million.

“We officially raised $1 million for Texas relief at 9:17pm,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote in a subsequent tweet. “100% of this relief is going straight to Texan food assistance, homelessness relief, elder care, and more.”

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Millions of Texans are presently dealing with the crisis that came about after the failure of the state’s electrical grid, which runs independently of federally regulated grids in the U.S. The failure of the grid resulted in millions being without power during an unusual winter cold front in the state. At least 7 million residents were under boil-water advisories on Thursday, and many communities were dealing with food shortages as well.

On Wednesday, as millions were without power, images of Cruz and his family departing from a Texas airport for a trip to Cancún started to circulate on social media. After facing an avalanche of outrage online, Cruz, who was originally planning to stay in Mexico until Saturday, booked a flight back to the U.S. on Thursday morning, pinning the blame on his daughters for his decision to flee the state in its moment of crisis.

“With school cancelled for the week, our girls asked to take a trip with friends. Wanting to be a good dad, I flew down with them last night and am flying back this afternoon,” Cruz said in a statement.

In a subsequent interview with a local ABC affiliate station, Cruz expounded on his excuse:

They said, ‘Look, let’s take a trip. Let’s go with some of our friends and let’s get out of here and let’s go somewhere warm. And [Cruz’s wife Heidi] and I said okay.

The Texas senator claimed the trip was intended to “take care of [his] family,” even as millions of other Texan families were struggling to do the same back in the state.

Some have noted the hypocrisy of Cruz taking a vacation during an emergency situation, as the lawmaker has been vocal about others who have acted similarly. He attacked the mayor of Austin, for example, for taking a trip to Cabo during the coronavirus pandemic last year. He’s also lashed out at former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who took a beach vacation on closed state land during a state government shutdown, and spoke out against former President Barack Obama for playing golf while in office.

“I think the President should actually stand up and do his job as commander-in-chief, should spend less time on the golf course and more time doing the job to which he was elected,” Cruz said of Obama in 2014.

This week wasn’t the first time, however, that Cruz has acted in a hypocritical way. While he’s been happy to criticize others for traveling during the COVID-19 crisis, Cruz himself took a vacation to Jamaica during the Independence Day weekend last year at a time when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had warned Americans to “avoid all nonessential international travel” due to the pandemic.

Texas was seeing an upswing in new cases of coronavirus in the month preceding Cruz’s vacation travels in July. The seven-day rate of new cases on June 1, 2020, being reported in the state was at 1,499 cases per day. By July 1, that rate had jumped to 7,070 cases per day.

Lol....

https://bongino.com/texas-democrat-mayor-begs-biden-to-stop-releasing-illegals-amid-winter-storm
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 20, 2021, 10:30:34 AM
Hahahahahhaha....

"HAHAHAHAHAHA"

"You just don't get it"

Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 20, 2021, 10:31:06 AM
Lol....

https://bongino.com/texas-democrat-mayor-begs-biden-to-stop-releasing-illegals-amid-winter-storm
   if the mayor was smart he would put the illegals to work shoveling snow.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: tom joad on February 20, 2021, 10:39:30 AM
which Getbigger's girlfriend/wife/mother is this?

this 'very special' person might need deprogramming?

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2021/02/19/south-florida-social-media-user-angry-patriot-hippie-arrested-after-video-threats-to-shoot-fbi/
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 20, 2021, 10:40:29 AM
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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 20, 2021, 10:42:06 AM
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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 20, 2021, 10:43:05 AM
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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 20, 2021, 11:00:20 AM
You can't even post memes that are funny.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 20, 2021, 11:07:52 AM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 20, 2021, 11:08:20 AM
You can't even post memes that are funny.

the ignore feature is gold. Cant see what he posts, and then when he replies/if the reply is to you, it makes him look that much stupider, if thats possible, because you cant see what he posted anyways. Hahah coach is the dumbest person I have encountered on the internet. Watch him reply to this and I wont be able to see it, but he will do it anyways  :D :D :D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 20, 2021, 11:30:09 AM
the ignore feature is gold. Cant see what he posts, and then when he replies/if the reply is to you, it makes him look that much stupider, if thats possible, because you cant see what he posted anyways. Hahah coach is the dumbest person I have encountered on the internet. Watch him reply to this and I wont be able to see it, but he will do it anyways  :D :D :D

HAHAHAHAHA you know him well.  Since you can't see it, I will let you know what he said.  Or rather you can construct his reply from the following :

"hahhahaha"
"you just don't get it"
"you can't prove it"
*navarroreport*
*insert lame brain conspiracy theory*
*or he will ramble on about the secret meetings he sits in on that no one else knows about*   ::)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 20, 2021, 11:46:37 AM
HAHAHAHAHA you know him well.  Since you can't see it, I will let you know what he said.  Or rather you can construct his reply from the following :

"hahhahaha"
"you just don't get it"
"you can't prove it"
*navarroreport*
*insert lame brain conspiracy theory*
*or he will ramble on about the secret meetings he sits in on that no one else knows about*   ::)

Lolololl that's so exact its frightening and hilarious
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 20, 2021, 12:13:04 PM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 20, 2021, 12:23:20 PM
Lolololl that's so exact its frightening and hilarious

If you look into Coach's eyes....  you can see the back of his head.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on February 20, 2021, 12:29:21 PM
I'm curious why a  handful of liberals post the most often about  politics on a site that is predominately  Conservative?  Personality disorder?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 20, 2021, 12:30:41 PM
    eat to win.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 20, 2021, 01:56:21 PM
lol

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/massive-crowd-two-supporters-welcomes-81-million-vote-recipient-kamala-harris-back-california-home-video/
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: evacnam on February 20, 2021, 01:59:30 PM
"hahhahaha"
"you just don't get it"
"you can't prove it"
*navarroreport*
*insert lame brain conspiracy theory*
*or he will ramble on about the secret meetings he sits in on that no one else knows about*   
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 20, 2021, 02:12:21 PM
"hahhahaha"
"you just don't get it"
"you can't prove it"
*navarroreport*
*insert lame brain conspiracy theory*
*or he will ramble on about the secret meetings he sits in on that no one else knows about*

For someone who can’t see my posts you sure do troll me *deep in your head*


Hahahahahahahahha
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Henda on February 20, 2021, 02:15:05 PM
lol

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/massive-crowd-two-supporters-welcomes-81-million-vote-recipient-kamala-harris-back-california-home-video/

Haha even a Garry glitter comeback concert would have a better turnout than that
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 20, 2021, 02:42:38 PM
Haha even a Garry glitter comeback concert would have a better turnout than that
     
     
    gary glitter good song but what a weirdo. I heard he used to post on here in the early 2000's
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 22, 2021, 05:19:59 AM
Trump House creator Leslie Rossi says she is ‘humbled’ at receiving GOP nod for open state House seat
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Leslie Baum Rossi said she was “humbled” by her selection Saturday by a group of party confreres from Somerset and Westmoreland counties to be the Republican candidate in the May 18 special election to fill the vacancy in the 59th District state House seat created by the recent death of Mike Reese.

Rossi, 50, was chosen by 26 appointed members of the Westmoreland County Republican Committee from the district that includes 42 precincts in eastern Westmoreland County, as well as 10 in western Somerset County during a meeting at the Fort Ligonier History Education Center in Ligonier.

The Unity woman won the party’s nod over four other Republicans, including Reese’s widow, Angela Reese, 44, of Mt. Pleasant Township; Ligonier Township police Officer Shawn Knepper; Latrobe attorney John Hauser, 42; and Dustin D. DeLuca, 35, of Jennerstown.

Rossi, a businesswoman and mother of eight children, who created the Trump House in Unity, will run against Democrat Mariah Fisher, 39, who was elected to Ligonier Borough Council in 2017. The Westmoreland County Democratic Party nominated Fisher this month to run in the special election.


Rossi said when she arrived in Ligonier on Saturday morning for the meeting, she was buoyed at the sight of about a dozen supporters standing outside the museum “with signs and flags offering their support for me.”

She likened it to the early “grassroots support” that enabled Donald Trump to win the presidency in 2016.

“I felt so humbled as this is the same grassroots movement we all became part of back in 2016 and that will continue on with us as we step up and win Republican seats in our counties and state (this year),” she said.

“Working on the ground and getting to know all the voters I have really left no question in my mind that when this seat opened that I had to put my name in to be the voice of the people,” she said.

During the 2016 presidential primary, Rossi, an early supporter of Trump, painted an old frame house just north of Youngstown along Route 982 red, white and blue and staked a 12-foot metal likeness of Trump in the yard. It became a popular tourist spot for Trump supporters.

Last year, she was a GOP delegate for Trump.

Westmoreland County Party Chairman Bill Bretz said he is impressed by Rossi’s enthusiasm, noting “that she immediately hit the ground running with her campaign” after receiving the party’s nod in Ligonier. He said she spent time meeting and speaking with numerous constituents waiting in line to speak to her after the vote.

Later Saturday, she attended a party nominating petition signing event in Unity where she mingled with other area residents and other candidates.

Rossi said she has enjoyed interacting with people throughout the district the past few weeks as she sought the party’s nomination as a legislative candidate.

“They are the reason I want to be a state House representative — because they deserve someone who will stand up for them,” she said.

Rossi touted a pro-business, conservative platform, noting that in addition to numerous important local, county and state races, she is supporting the May 18 ballot initiative for a constitutional amendment limiting a governor’s powers during disaster emergencies in Pennsylvania.

If passed, the measure would end emergency disaster declarations after 21 days, unless lawmakers approve an extension through a majority vote. If voters approve it in May, it would go into effect.

“Voters must show up May 18 if they want (to stop) the governor’s overreach of power from going forward. Many of the businesses out there looked to their legislators for help during the mandated shutdowns that were crippling their businesses here in this state, but the (legislators’) hands were tied,” Rossi said.

Rossi works in the family’s development business with her husband, Mike.

Republicans make up about 55% of registered voters in the district, while Democrats hold 34%.

Reese, a 42-year-old Republican from Mt. Pleasant Township, ran unopposed in November for a seventh term in office. He died Jan. 2 of an apparent brain aneurysm.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 22, 2021, 10:33:52 AM
 :D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Grape Ape on February 22, 2021, 11:15:16 AM
:D

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=670776.0;attach=1295193;image)

No, it does not sound reasonable.

A president, or future president's, private income taxes are nobody's business but their own.

If they are not under Federal investigation from the IRS, they are assumed to be filed legally.

They are irrelevant, and people only want to have the info to politicize and weaponize, not for any real issue.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 22, 2021, 12:04:25 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=670776.0;attach=1295193;image)

No, it does not sound reasonable.

A president, or future president's, private income taxes are nobody's business but their own.

If they are not under Federal investigation from the IRS, they are assumed to be filed legally.

They are irrelevant, and people only want to have the info to politicize and weaponize, not for any real issue.
                               geeeshhh   I was stating this so hunter Biden isn't eligible to be president one day. ;D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Grape Ape on February 22, 2021, 12:11:37 PM
                               geeeshhh   I was stating this so hunter Biden isn't eligible to be president one day. ;D


joe might not have passed #3.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 22, 2021, 12:21:11 PM

joe might not have passed #3.
      there was a good chance of that    ;D ;D ;D ;D     Dwayne "the rock"  Johnson 2024.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Grape Ape on February 22, 2021, 12:23:56 PM
      there was a good chance of that    ;D ;D ;D ;D     Dwayne "the rock"  Johnson 2024.

All kidding aside, the tax return thing always bugged me.....well before Trump too.

It's just irrelevant.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 22, 2021, 12:46:36 PM
      there was a good chance of that    ;D ;D ;D ;D     Dwayne "the rock"  Johnson 2024.


      there is a good chance that 10 Honduran "refugees" will share yours hacienda in 2021 , thanks to Biden  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 22, 2021, 01:28:12 PM

      there is a good chance that 10 Honduran "refugees" will share yours hacienda in 2021 , thanks to Biden  ;D ;D ;D
     
    not in my house, I got one of these babies with my stimulus chk.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 22, 2021, 01:30:06 PM
     
    not in my house, I got one of these babies with my stimulus chk.
   
   I was going to get one of these but they are a little pricey.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 22, 2021, 02:10:13 PM
     
    not in my house, I got one of these babies with my stimulus chk.

I prefer a 12 GA with 00 buck shot. ;D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 23, 2021, 05:34:45 AM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Kwon on February 23, 2021, 07:49:30 AM
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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 23, 2021, 09:41:19 AM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/9fbc38e131fe0de81483748978e4371d/5bdfeaa00cd18dc6-27/s2048x3072/70caea0202669534fa6009bbe18967ada99cf683.png)
     
                    now that's more like it mister kwon.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: mac33 on February 23, 2021, 09:58:09 AM
I prefer a 12 GA with 00 buck shot. ;D

You will like this channel then:
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 23, 2021, 11:22:25 AM
   
   I was going to get one of these but they are a little pricey.


Nancy will take YOUR gun away,  ah poor you  :'( :'( :'(

YOU & 10 hondurans @ YOURS place  ;D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 23, 2021, 12:11:43 PM

Nancy will take YOUR gun away,  ah poor you  :'( :'( :'(

YOU & 10 hondurans @ YOURS place  ;D
           nancy doesn't really care about my gun.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 23, 2021, 03:20:15 PM
           nancy doesn't really care about my gun.

You sure it's Nancy?  I thought it was Bill.  Then Obama.  Then Clinton.  Now Joe. 

Sounds like a silent dog whistle for the stupid ones to keep falling for it.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: AbrahamG on February 23, 2021, 05:30:51 PM
You sure it's Nancy?  I thought it was Bill.  Then Obama.  Then Clinton.  Now Joe. 

Sounds like a silent dog whistle for the stupid ones to keep falling for it.

And keep falling for it they do. 
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 24, 2021, 06:08:33 AM
Trump may soon have to answer rape allegations under oath
By Linda So

8 MIN READ


(Reuters) - During a December visit to New York City, writer E. Jean Carroll says she went shopping with a fashion consultant to find the “best outfit” for one of the most important days of her life - when she’ll sit face-to-face with the man she accuses of raping her decades ago, former President Donald Trump.


FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump rape accuser E. Jean Carroll arrives for her hearing at federal court during the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic in the Manhattan borough of New York City, New York, U.S., October 21, 2020. REUTERS/Carlo Allegri/File Photo
The author and journalist hopes that day will come this year. Her lawyers are seeking to depose Trump in a defamation lawsuit that Carroll filed against the former president in November 2019 after he denied her accusation that he raped her at a Manhattan department store in the mid-1990s. Trump said he never knew Carroll and accused her of lying to sell her new book, adding: “She’s not my type.”

She plans to be there if Trump is deposed.

“I am living for the moment to walk into that room to sit across the table from him,” Carroll told Reuters in an interview. “I think of it everyday.”

Carroll, 77, a former Elle magazine columnist, seeks unspecified damages in her lawsuit and a retraction of Trump’s statements. It is one of two defamation cases involving sexual misconduct allegations against Trump that could move forward faster now that he has left the presidency. While in office, Trump’s lawyers delayed the case in part by arguing that the pressing duties of his office made responding to civil lawsuits impossible.

“The only barrier to proceeding with the civil suits was that he’s the president,” said Jennifer Rodgers, a former federal prosecutor and now an adjunct professor of clinical law at the New York University School of Law.

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“I think there will be a sense among the judges that it’s time to get a move on in these cases,” said Roberta Kaplan, Carroll’s attorney.

An attorney for Trump and another representative of the former president did not respond to requests for comment.

Trump faces a similar defamation lawsuit from Summer Zervos, a former contestant on his reality television show “The Apprentice.” In 2016, Zervos accused Trump of sexual misconduct, saying that he kissed her against her will at a 2007 meeting in New York and later groped her at a California hotel as the two met to discuss job opportunities.

Trump denied the allegations and called Zervos a liar, prompting her to sue him for defamation in 2017, seeking damages and a retraction. Trump tried unsuccessfully to have the case dismissed, arguing that, as president, he was immune from suits filed in state courts. His lawyers appealed to the New York Court of Appeals, which is still considering the case. Zervos filed a motion in early February asking the court to resume the case now that Trump’s no longer president.

Zervos and Carroll are among more than two dozen women who have publicly accused Trump of sexual misconduct that they say occurred in the years before he became president. Other accusers include a former model who claims Trump sexually assaulted her at the 1997 U.S. Open tennis tournament; a former Miss Universe pageant contestant who said Trump groped her in 2006; and a reporter who alleges Trump forcibly kissed her without her consent in 2005 at his Mar-a-Lago resort.


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Trump has denied the allegations and called them politically motivated.

In September, after several unsuccessful attempts by Trump’s lawyers to get Carroll’s case dismissed or delayed, U.S. Justice Department officials under his administration took the unusual step of asking that the government be substituted for Trump as the defendant in the case. Justice Department lawyers argued that Trump, like any typical government employee, is entitled under federal law to immunity from civil lawsuits when performing his job. They argued that he was acting in his capacity as president when he said Carroll was lying.

Legal experts said it was unprecedented for the Justice Department to defend a president for conduct before he took office. When Judge Lewis Kaplan of the Federal District Court in Manhattan rejected that argument, the Justice Department appealed. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit has yet to rule on it.

It’s yet to be seen whether Justice Department officials under President Joe Biden, who took office last month, will continue to defend the case on Trump’s behalf. The White House and the Justice Department declined to comment.

If the appeals court upholds Judge Kaplan’s decision, it would likely clear the way for Trump to be deposed by Carroll’s lawyers.

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Carroll’s lawyers are also seeking a DNA sample from Trump. Carroll says she still has the dress she was wearing when Trump allegedly attacked her.

“I hung it in my closet,” she said.

Carroll said she randomly crossed paths with Trump in the Bergdorf Goodman’s store in the mid-1990s. Carroll, who hosted a TV talk show at the time, said Trump recognized her. The two chatted, she said. Trump asked her to pick out a gift for an unidentified woman, and they eventually ended up in the lingerie department. After asking her to try on a body suit, Trump closed the door in a dressing room, pinned her against a wall, unzipped his pants and sexually assaulted her, according to the complaint.

Carroll said she told two friends about the alleged attack shortly after it happened, but did not report Trump to police, fearing retribution from the wealthy and well-connected businessman. Decades later, Carroll went public with her story in a June 2019 New York magazine article, adapted from a new book, “What Do We Need Men For? A Modest Proposal.”

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She said she was inspired to recount the incident by the #MeToo movement, which emboldened women to share their experiences of sexual assault and harassment. In photos shot for that story, Kaplan, at the request of the magazine’s photography director, wore the same black Donna Karan dress that she said she had worn on the day that Trump allegedly assaulted her.

When Carroll filed her lawsuit later in 2019, her lawyer, Kaplan, had a guard escort her to retrieve the dress from her closet for forensic testing. An analysis concluded no semen was found on the dress, but the DNA of an unidentified male was detected on the shoulder and sleeves, according to the Jan. 8, 2020 lab report, which was reviewed by Reuters.

If the dress does contain traces of Trump’s DNA, it would not prove his guilt. But a match could be used as evidence that he had contact with the dress and to help disprove his claims that he never met Carroll, according to two forensic experts not involved in the case.

“How his DNA got on that dress would be the argument,” said Monte Miller, a biochemist who runs a DNA analysis consultancy and previously worked at the Texas Department of Public Safety’s State Crime Laboratory. “It’s for the attorneys and the courts and everybody else to argue about why it’s there and how it got there.”

Carroll said she’s confident the DNA on the dress belongs to Trump and wants her day in court. She said she now sleeps with a gun next to her bed because she has received death threats since publicly accusing Trump.

“This defamation suit is not about me,” said Carroll, who meets regularly with other women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct. It’s about every woman “who can’t speak up.” (This story refiles to fix Carroll name reference in sixth paragraph from bottom)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: tom joad on February 24, 2021, 07:44:00 AM
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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 25, 2021, 05:34:43 AM
  ;D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 25, 2021, 05:21:20 PM
           nancy doesn't really care about my gun.

So why don't you say: Biden BJ Xi Jingping (if U don't idolize him)  :D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 26, 2021, 10:36:57 AM
QAnon conspiracy theories point followers to March 4, second inauguration
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FILE - In this Aug. 2, 2018, file photo, a protesters holds a Q sign waits in line with others to enter a campaign rally with President Donald Trump in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. Facebook says on Wednesday, Aug. 19, 2020, it will restrict QAnon and stop recommending that users join groups supporting it, but the company is stopping short of banning the right-wing conspiracy movement outright. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke, File)
Facebook QAnon
QAnon
By: Scripps NationalPosted at 2:10 PM, Feb 10, 2021 and last updated 4:10 PM, Feb 10, 2021
Those who believe in the baseless conspiracy theories of the QAnon movement are looking ahead to March 4, according to several reports.

The QAnon community falsely believes that former President Donald Trump is a savior who will stay in power, and he is waging a war against a cabal of satanic pedophiles. They also believe a “storm” is coming, where Democrats and others are rounded up and tried or killed.

In 2019, the FBI warned the conspiracy theory movement was “domestic terrorism” and a “growing threat.”

Recent Stories from thedenverchannel.com

They follow the internet posts of an anonymous poster called “Q”. This person, or persons, has not posted since December, but this has not stopped conspiracies from energizing those who believe the discredited ideology. Including one about March 4.

"The belief systems and the conspiracy theories that sustain the movement don't come from Trump or Q or any specific leader — it's sort of crowdsourced and self-generated," Travis View told NPR. View hosts a podcast that tracks and debunks online conspiracy theories.

"It really is about the community and the feeling that they have some sort of inside information about what's going to happen, so there's really no head of the snake. There's not one thing you can take out that will make the entire movement fizzle."


After President Joe Biden was sworn in on Jan. 20, there were online conversations among QAnon followers about Trump being sworn into office for a second presidential term on March 4.

The theory is a little convoluted, and hearkens back to historic conspiracies about secret laws in 1871 and later in the 20th Century when our money became untethered to the gold standard. What is true, is that before 1937 presidents were sworn into office in early March.

12/ They believe that March 4, 2021is the start for the new Republic. March 4 was the start date of the new President until it was changed in 1933. Why do they believe all of this? Well at the end of his Jan 7 speech Trump said “Our incredible journey is only just beginning.”

— Marc-André Argentino (@_MAArgentino) January 13, 2021
While the basis for the March 4 date and reasoning for a second inauguration is a little unclear, it is getting more attention after it was reported that Trump’s own Washington D.C. hotel had increased their prices for a room on March 4, according to Forbes. The outlet reports Trump International Hotel also increased their rates on Jan. 5 and 6.

Copyright 2021 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.     YOUR NEW DATE TO WATCH FOR IS MARCH 4 2021.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: TheGrinch on February 26, 2021, 11:14:49 AM
QAnon conspiracy theories point followers to March 4, second inauguration
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Photo by: Matt Rourke/AP
FILE - In this Aug. 2, 2018, file photo, a protesters holds a Q sign waits in line with others to enter a campaign rally with President Donald Trump in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. Facebook says on Wednesday, Aug. 19, 2020, it will restrict QAnon and stop recommending that users join groups supporting it, but the company is stopping short of banning the right-wing conspiracy movement outright. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke, File)
Facebook QAnon
QAnon
By: Scripps NationalPosted at 2:10 PM, Feb 10, 2021 and last updated 4:10 PM, Feb 10, 2021
Those who believe in the baseless conspiracy theories of the QAnon movement are looking ahead to March 4, according to several reports.

The QAnon community falsely believes that former President Donald Trump is a savior who will stay in power, and he is waging a war against a cabal of satanic pedophiles. They also believe a “storm” is coming, where Democrats and others are rounded up and tried or killed.

In 2019, the FBI warned the conspiracy theory movement was “domestic terrorism” and a “growing threat.”

Recent Stories from thedenverchannel.com

They follow the internet posts of an anonymous poster called “Q”. This person, or persons, has not posted since December, but this has not stopped conspiracies from energizing those who believe the discredited ideology. Including one about March 4.

"The belief systems and the conspiracy theories that sustain the movement don't come from Trump or Q or any specific leader — it's sort of crowdsourced and self-generated," Travis View told NPR. View hosts a podcast that tracks and debunks online conspiracy theories.

"It really is about the community and the feeling that they have some sort of inside information about what's going to happen, so there's really no head of the snake. There's not one thing you can take out that will make the entire movement fizzle."


After President Joe Biden was sworn in on Jan. 20, there were online conversations among QAnon followers about Trump being sworn into office for a second presidential term on March 4.

The theory is a little convoluted, and hearkens back to historic conspiracies about secret laws in 1871 and later in the 20th Century when our money became untethered to the gold standard. What is true, is that before 1937 presidents were sworn into office in early March.

12/ They believe that March 4, 2021is the start for the new Republic. March 4 was the start date of the new President until it was changed in 1933. Why do they believe all of this? Well at the end of his Jan 7 speech Trump said “Our incredible journey is only just beginning.”

— Marc-André Argentino (@_MAArgentino) January 13, 2021
While the basis for the March 4 date and reasoning for a second inauguration is a little unclear, it is getting more attention after it was reported that Trump’s own Washington D.C. hotel had increased their prices for a room on March 4, according to Forbes. The outlet reports Trump International Hotel also increased their rates on Jan. 5 and 6.

Copyright 2021 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.     YOUR NEW DATE TO WATCH FOR IS MARCH 4 2021.


well... definitely far out there but then why is there still a wall around the capital building
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 26, 2021, 12:36:39 PM

well... definitely far out there but then why is there still a wall around the capital building

Just ask Zuckeberg what's happened to his wall on Hawaii  8)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: B_MyT_2 on February 26, 2021, 04:28:29 PM
Not even bothering to read the thread.  Thread title and this being on the MSM "news" just shows how fucked up, and hypocritical the left is in regards to mindset and their "tolerance" 

Piles of shit!
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Kwon on February 26, 2021, 06:30:59 PM
Not even bothering to read the thread.  Thread title and this being on the MSM "news" just shows how fucked up, and hypocritical the left is in regards to mindset and their "tolerance" 

Piles of shit!

+1!
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 26, 2021, 07:58:34 PM
Every day of every news cycle just makes this thread better and better hahahahahahahah
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 26, 2021, 08:03:01 PM
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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 26, 2021, 08:53:42 PM
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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 27, 2021, 02:51:08 AM
 :D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 27, 2021, 04:47:09 AM
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:D :D :D :D :D :D   good ones.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 27, 2021, 11:08:28 AM
Trump Media Empire? Don’t Bet on It.
He may desperately need his own platform now that he’s been exiled from Twitter, but it’s going to cost him more than he’s got.

President Donald Trump looks at his phone during a roundtable meeting.
Alex Brandon/AP Photo

By JACK SHAFER

01/09/2021 07:18 PM EST

Jack Shafer is Politico’s senior media writer.

Eighty-sixed permanently from his personal account by Twitter for propelling his mob to attack and occupy the Capitol, President Donald Trump transferred his carping to the official @POTUS account early Friday evening.

His four tweets there, since deleted by Twitter, complained of being gagged by the “Democrats and Radical Left” and pledged he would explore “building out our own platform in the near future.” This vague promise reprised an idea first floated by the Trump camp in the late going of campaign 2016—when he seemed a sure loser—that he might start his own TV network. It makes sense that Trump would want to build his own impregnable forum where nobody can police his speech. He maintains his base by communicating with it at all hours of the day and night. He desperately wants to maintain that continuity to preserve the momentum he has achieved over the past four years. He rightly worries that his pack will ditch him for someone more compelling or entertaining, ergo, he needs to lay plans now or face oblivion.


Donald Trump on his cell phone
POLITICS

How @realDonaldTrump Changed Politics — and America
BY DEREK ROBERTSON

But then as now, the business challenges to launching a TV channel or other high-profile media property seem beyond the talents, resources and patience of Trump and his crew. This isn’t to predict that Trump won’t enter the media business, only to record that if he does, he won’t get very far.


Let’s say he decides to start a cable channel to vie with CNN, MSNBC and especially with Fox News Channel. Assuming that he can raise the hundreds of millions of dollars to stand up a competitive network—Trump has always preferred using other people’s money in his ventures—what sort of luck might he have in getting AT&T, Comcast, Verizon and other major cable companies to carry his new channel? He has no friends at AT&T, whose merger with Time Warner he fought as president, and which now owns CNN. Comcast doesn’t desire a new entry in the news market to go against its MSNBC property. As The New York Times noted in 2016, not even Oprah Winfrey, the queen of all media, succeeded in turning her personal franchise into a cable powerhouse. Can Trump do something the far-wealthier and much more appealing Winfrey couldn’t?

But let’s say Trump does the unlikely. If you think Fox has been distancing itself from the toddler-in-chief since the Biden victory, you can be assured that it will savage him when he poses a threat to its viewership and revenues. The same goes for the Trump-lovers at NewsMax and OAN. Trump’s better bet would be to buy NewsMax, something Trump allies flirted with in November, or even OAN. But again, doing so would draw the ire of Fox, where the majority of his followers currently park their TV sets. Trump might as well shop for a public access slot.

Rather than starting his own thing, the fastest, grandest way for Trump to get into the media game would be to shop himself to Fox or the Sinclair stations as the host of a nightly show, which given the 74 million votes he garnered in November and his TV talents, could make a splash. But what’s in it for Fox? Its current prime-time roster rakes in excellent ratings, and none of the current hosts pose the personnel problems Trump would immediately present. The Fox dog does not want to be wagged by the tail. What’s more, the Murdoch empire, which owns Fox, seems to have soured on Trump. This week, the Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal editorial page, a consistent pro-Trump venue, urged Trump to resign the morning after the battle for the Capitol. Fleeing to a host job at Sinclair, again, would make him a slow-moving target of his natural allies at Fox, NewsMax and OAN. Does he really want that? He has too many media enemies right now to manufacture new ones.



Trump could try to reconstitute his Twitter brand on a new service of his own creation, but that too would be like pushing a boulder up a hill. Better to go to Parler, the home of many Twitter-rejectees, he might surmise. Yet that’s not going to create media magic for the soon-to-be ex-president, either. Google just banned Parler from its app store, and Apple is threatening to do the same because Parler doesn’t do content moderation or tamp down firebrands like Trump. So even if Trump moves to Parler and Parler smooths relations with the two app stores, Trump will face censorship from Google and Apple that will make his time at Twitter look like a free ride. Trump will never join Parler if it only lets him pour vanilla on his faithful. He wants to dump hot sauce.

What options does that leave Trump? Start an over-the-top streaming channel like Glenn Beck’s the Blaze? Beck, who was a Fox star before creating the Blaze, never succeeded in the linear TV business after eight years of trying, and now exists as a more modest service that produces VOD shows, radio shows, podcasts and a website.

Energizing his minions to rout the Capitol didn’t completely drain Trump of his political and media powers. But the wounds he suffered are deep and hemorrhaging still. The days where he could swagger, defame and incite without suffering crippling repercussions appear to have ended. To pour the foundations for a new media operation he would need lots of capital, something he appears not to possess. He would need a media mastermind like Roger Ailes to guide it—but Ailes is dead.

What successful media wizard can you think of who is dying to throw in with a discredited ex-president? And most of all, to sustain a bruising media battle against the current market incumbents, he would require advertiser support. Beyond the My Pillow guy, the purveyors of herbal remedies and reverse mortgage operators, how many American brands want to associate their products and services with an unindicted (for now) accessory to sedition?

******

Don and Kimberly in the Morning and Inspirations with Ivanka could round out the program card at Trump TV. Send Trump TV show suggestions to Shafer.Politico@gmail.com. My email alerts promise to watch anything Trump TV runs. My Twitter feed remains loyal to the knuckleheads on NewsHour. My RSS feed is a living argument for the case for killing your TV.

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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Rami on February 27, 2021, 11:17:57 AM
Trump is a great president and leader. One of the very best and bravest America has ever had. Trump is the antithesis of pussyfooting around unlike every career politician, like Biden and Kamala.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on February 27, 2021, 12:33:59 PM
Trump Media Empire? Don’t Bet on It.
He may desperately need his own platform now that he’s been exiled from Twitter, but it’s going to cost him more than he’s got.

President Donald Trump looks at his phone during a roundtable meeting.
Alex Brandon/AP Photo

By JACK SHAFER
...........LIBERAL TEARS
I don't know about anyone else, but I've been skipping 99% of your posts. :)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 27, 2021, 12:39:35 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I've been skipping 99% of your posts. :)
       
                       so then why are you replying, if you don't care.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 27, 2021, 01:03:05 PM


funk41, where can i donate $ 1 to joe biden 2024 campaign ...........
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 27, 2021, 01:17:42 PM

funk41, where can i donate $ 1 to joe biden 2024 campaign ...........
    https://joebiden.com/contribute-by-mail/        there you go mister Knight
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: tom joad on February 27, 2021, 02:07:02 PM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 27, 2021, 05:44:46 PM
       
                       so then why are you replying, if you don't care.

Says the same liberal who killed 25,000 jobs in her own district lol
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: B_MyT_2 on February 27, 2021, 05:46:03 PM
       
                       so then why are you replying, if you don't care.

She wanted publicity ....Nothing more, and nothing less.   You know it's true, and stating otherwise just shows what ignorant leftist dipshits are really like, and willing to go along with a narrative
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: B_MyT_2 on February 27, 2021, 05:54:41 PM
.

2 of the funniest memes I've seen politically speaking, posted back to back.  This one was funnier so I'm replying to it, but the one after was damn good too.

Do any of you guys watch Zeducation with Tyleer Zed on YT?  He's conservative out of MN, and finds and comments on some of the funniest memes out there every Sunday.....I just wait til Monday as opposed to waiting for it be posted,  Search Zeducation on YT, and then go through the "You laugh, You Lose" tabs.  Those are the meme ones.  He does other stuff as well.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on February 27, 2021, 06:14:30 PM
She wanted publicity ....Nothing more, and nothing less.   You know it's true, and stating otherwise just shows what ignorant leftist dipshits are really like, and willing to go along with a narrative
You're wasting your typing energy. These people are straight retards.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 27, 2021, 06:50:48 PM
You're wasting your typing energy. These people are straight retards.

Yup
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Kwon on February 28, 2021, 06:29:22 AM
You're wasting your typing energy. These people are straight retards.

Indeed.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: mac33 on February 28, 2021, 07:37:14 AM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 28, 2021, 10:44:20 AM
She wanted publicity ....Nothing more, and nothing less.   You know it's true, and stating otherwise just shows what ignorant leftist dipshits are really like, and willing to go along with a narrative
                 that maybe true but raising 2 mill to help is a good thing, is that not so ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 28, 2021, 12:05:23 PM
    the old bait and switch is working to perfection.   :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 28, 2021, 12:14:47 PM
   the old bait and switch is working to perfection.   :) :) :) :)


ah, aussie tv  ;D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 28, 2021, 12:30:19 PM

ah, aussie tv  ;D
     
     
    I used to  like to watch paul hogan.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 28, 2021, 01:07:28 PM
    all will be revealed on march 4, 2021...or not. ::)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on February 28, 2021, 01:10:59 PM
    in other news  :D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 02, 2021, 06:25:00 AM
South Whitehall Township man charged with participating in Capitol attack
By ANDREW SCOTT
THE MORNING CALL |
MAR 01, 2021 AT 11:09 PM


A South Whitehall Township man has been charged in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol building in Washington.

Jackson Kostlosky is charged with knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted area, and violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, according to a document filed Friday in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

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The document does not give Kostlosky’s age, or any details about his alleged involvement in what authorities called an “insurrection.”

Court records include a South Whitehall address where Kostlosky lives with his mother. A records search indicates a Jackson Kostolsky lives at that address. The reason for the discrepancy in the spelling of the last name could not be immediately determined.

A woman answered a phone call to a number associated with the address. She asked what the call was about when a reporter asked to speak with Jackson, then hung up without saying anything else after the reporter said it was regarding federal charges in the Jan. 6 incident at the Capitol.

According to the court records, Kostlosky was released on $250,000 bail. He must submit to random drug testing and location monitoring, avoid excessive alcohol or drug use and obey a 7 p.m.-7 a.m. curfew.

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He also must surrender and/or not get a passport, not have any guns, restrict his travel to eastern Pennsylvania, avoid contact with any co-defendants or potential witnesses and not go to Washington except to appear in court, according to the document.

Kostlosky’s attorney, Maranna Meehan, did not return phone and email messages left after hours at the Federal Community Defender Office in Philadelphia.

Kostlosky and at least 20 other Pennsylvania residents are among more than 200 people charged in the Jan. 6 insurrection, according to the George Washington University Program on Extremism.

Four people died during the violence when supporters of former President Donald Trump stormed the Capitol building in an attempt to disrupt the certification of Joe Biden as winner of the 2020 presidential election. A fifth, a police officer, died the next day from injuries. Two other police officers have died by suicide since the attack, which led to Trump’s second impeachment.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 02, 2021, 06:26:32 AM
Lake Trump? Disputed reservoir could be named after US president

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In addition to his own golf clubs and hotels, Donald Trump may soon have a lake named after him following proposals to christen a contested Balkan reservoir in his honour.

The lake in question is a 24-kilometre (15-mile) stretch of water straddling the border of former war foes Serbia and Kosovo, who both claim ownership and have different names for it.

A huge banner appeared Thursday on Kosovo's side of the reservoir reading "Lake Trump", while another hung over a bridge thanked Trump for "bringing peace" following recent US-brokered agreements between Kosovo and Serbia.

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The tussle over ownership of the lake -- called Ujman in Kosovo and Gazivode in Serbia -- is one of many disputes still haunting the neighbours 20 years after they broke apart in war.

After the banners emerged, Kosovo's Prime Minister Avdullah Hoti wrote on Twitter that he "welcomed" the proposal to rename the body of water "Lake Trump" in honour of the "historic economic normalization agreement" signed at the White House in early September.

The agreements, which analysts said were light on substance despite Trump's insistence on their "historic" nature, included a commitment to a feasibility study for "sharing" the lake.

According to Trump advisor Richard Grenell, who led talks on the agreements, the idea of Lake Trump was originally a joke.

"There was this incredible fight about the name so I kind of jokingly said... well, I'm going to keep referring to it as Lake Trump", Grenell said in an interview with a US talk show.

"And both leaders jumped at it and said -– I’m OK with Lake Trump, let's call it Lake Trump", he added.

Serbia's government has not yet commented on the matter.

Three quarters of the reservoir lies in Kosovo, while the rest is in Serbia.

But the dispute is not just a quarrel about the name.

The lake is the crucial source of drinking water for more than a third of Kosovo's 1.8 million population, and a cooling source for the coal plants that produce almost all of Kosovo's electricity.

Serbia, which still does not recognise its former province's independence, considers the lake its property.

Locals in the surrounding area, a northern part of Kosovo home mainly to ethnic Serbs, were unclear of who was behind the naming initiative.

"I don't know who put the signs and banners", Srdjan Vulovic, a local mayor, told AFP.

Ordinary people had mixed views.

"I can put a sign on a building that says Dragica's building, but that won't make it mine, or change its name. There are procedures on how to rename a lake", Dragica Jeftic, a pensioner from Mitrovica told AFP.

But Bojan Savic, a student, thought it was "not a bad idea".

"It has echoed around the world, and it is good that we have American support".
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 02, 2021, 12:15:35 PM
Do not understate the implications of Republicans willing to take the fight to their colleagues. These skirmishes, if nurtured properly, could escalate into open warfare, and ultimately inflict crippling damage to the party’s national prospects.
There is no way to insulate the GOP from the truth about the insurrection. The party was complicit, at all levels, in the Big Lie and the anti-democratic plot to defy the will of the American people. Leaders and intellectuals across the conservative movement endorsed violence and attacked democracy.
Any honest investigation into the origins of the mayhem of January 6 will necessarily implicate powerful and well-connected leaders and activists. When this happens, their instincts for self-preservation will overwhelm attempts to close ranks. Which will set off more waves of recriminations from people with little left to lose.
This period of weakness for a divided and staggered GOP may not last long. New passions will arise that could unify Republicans, especially in opposition to the Biden administration’s agenda. Or another crisis could provide Republicans with an avenue of escape.
Which is why Democrats and anti-authoritarians of all political stripes should take advantage of this moment and push.
Start by taking dissident Republicans at their word that Donald Trump’s Big Lie undermined our democracy, disrupted the peaceful transfer of power, and inspired the insurrection. These admissions by top Republicans will stain the former president and his political movement.
But it shouldn’t end there.
Democrats and pro-democracy Republicans should take an aggressive posture on witnesses for the 9/11 Commission-style investigation into the storming of the Capitol. Liz Cheney is right that the probe should be led by former officials, people uncompromised by threats of primary challenges or political retribution.
The power to issue subpoenas, and enforce them, will also be critical. Michael Flynn should be called to testify—do it in prime time—about his advocacy for martial law and his support for a pro-insurrection militia group.
The investigation should also focus on the militant groups behind the insurrection, organizations such as the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters, and the Oath Keepers. Public hearings should be held, exposing linkages between violent militias to elected officials, party activists, and conservative media. Republicans should be pressured to denounce them, by name.
The anti-democratic roots of the insurrection should also be exposed to the light. Criminal investigations will proceed, but we also need a public accounting of how Trump, his White House aides, and others (such as Rudy Giuliani and Lindsey Graham) applied pressure on state legislators and elections officials to overturn Joe Biden’s victory.
Washington Metropolitan Police officers can testify about the violence of January 6 and challenge Senator Ron Johnson’s suggestions that the insurrectionists weren’t armed, or that they were the unwitting puppets of mysterious provocateurs.
At every turn, in every venue, Republicans should be challenged on whether or not they agree with Senator Mitt Romney’s statement that “President Biden won the election through the legitimate vote of the American people.” Will they join the Wisconsin GOP in refusing to condemn political violence? Are they afraid to take a clear stand against secessionist movements? These are major fault lines in the party’s foundation, and they can be stressed much further.
This is the opportunity to overwhelm the beleaguered MAGA partisans and expose those who hide behind whataboutism, technicalities, and process to evade hard questions.”   anyone you know on these wanted posters.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 02, 2021, 12:37:31 PM
The democrats allowed rioting for months. STFU
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2021, 12:40:57 PM
Only two more days until Trumpy is President again.  Or did they move it back another 20?  Anyone get the latest memo?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Hypertrophy on March 02, 2021, 12:41:35 PM
The democrats allowed rioting for months. STFU


Don't mind Fuck51. He is a closeted gay living alone in east bumfuck PA. He lost what little muscle he had when he started taking estrogen for his/her transition and now he/she is lost with no purpose in life, except for posting dumbshit on Getbig, haha
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: ThisisOverload on March 02, 2021, 12:44:41 PM
The democrats allowed rioting for months. STFU

LOL

The BLM, Antifa and general Dindu Associations did billions of dollars in damage for months. Took over a part of a City for weeks that resulted in murders and were responsible for dozens of murders across the Country.

But the Capitol Siege still is highlighted in the Liberal MSM.

You can't make this propaganda up.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2021, 12:45:42 PM
Only two more days until Trumpy is President again.  Or did they move it back another 20?  Anyone get the latest memo?

How is your boy Cuomo doing in NY?   ;)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Primemuscle on March 02, 2021, 12:48:40 PM
Only two more days until Trumpy is President again.  Or did they move it back another 20?  Anyone get the latest memo?

Waiting with baited breath.  ;D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on March 02, 2021, 12:48:53 PM
https://highlandcountypress.com/Content/In-The-News/In-The-News/Article/Trump-administration-lists-accomplishments-from-2017-21/2/20/63948
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2021, 12:49:57 PM
How is your boy Cuomo doing in NY?   ;)

Looking for an exit strategy probably.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 02, 2021, 12:55:49 PM
Let’s how many liberal liars we have on here. All funk can do is post up communist propaganda (every.single.post)

Give us something in the last 5 weeks Biden and his puppet masters have done right for this country and why. Let’s start Lurker and Funk

Should be a simple question since you “voted” for them
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2021, 02:13:05 PM
Let’s how many liberal liars we have on here. All funk can do is post up communist propaganda (every.single.post)

Give us something in the last 5 weeks Biden and his puppet masters have done right for this country and why. Let’s start Lurker and Funk

Should be a simple question since you “voted” for them

Got inaugurated.
Didn't lose his Twitter account.
Still on FB.
Caused little midget meltdowns on a daily basis.
Fired a good deal of Trumpy cronies.
Started undoing most of orange turd's prior actions.
Caused little midge meltdowns on a daily basis.  <-- needs to be said twice.
Dropped some bombs.
Exposed how stupid Trumpturds are.
Multiple SC rulings in his favor.
Caused little midget meltdowns on a daily basis. <--- biggest accomplishment yet.


So... got any birther or pizzagate theories to entertain us with? 
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 02, 2021, 03:25:24 PM
Got inaugurated.
Didn't lose his Twitter account.
Still on FB.
Caused little midget meltdowns on a daily basis.
Fired a good deal of Trumpy cronies.
Started undoing most of orange turd's prior actions.
Caused little midge meltdowns on a daily basis.  <-- needs to be said twice.
Dropped some bombs.
Exposed how stupid Trumpturds are.
Multiple SC rulings in his favor.
Caused little midget meltdowns on a daily basis. <--- biggest accomplishment yet.


So... got any birther or pizzagate theories to entertain us with?

Obviously you’re dense as fuck. This doesn’t surprise me. Now that we know you can’t answer, let’s try funk
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2021, 04:10:20 PM
Obviously you’re dense as fuck. This doesn’t surprise me. Now that we know you can’t answer, let’s try funk

Ok pizzagate birther.   

FBI just announced no ANTIFA, BLM or anyone else was impersonating Trumpy supporters at the riot. 

Another blow to those conspiracy theories that you hold so dear. 
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: AbrahamG on March 02, 2021, 04:20:30 PM
Since the adults took over, vaccinations (while not perfect) have been expedited and coordinated much better with the states.  Up to around 2 million people getting vaccinated daily and rising.  Looking more and more like we'll have a real summer.  Latest estimate is that our country (minus the retards) will be fully vaccinated by the end of May. 

Nice to see that he and his mail order bride and mother of his anchor baby both got vaccinated before leaving office.  What a fucking weasel. 
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: ThisisOverload on March 02, 2021, 04:51:15 PM
Since the adults took over

What a fucking weasel.

Cute. ;D

Did you expect the POTUS and his family not to get the vaccine? Come on, man! ;D

Looks like the Country will be operating normally by Summer, 2022. ;)

Texas is about to return to normal. Interested to see how it compares to the Communist lockdown we have in NM.



Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2021, 05:02:03 PM
Since the adults took over, vaccinations (while not perfect) have been expedited and coordinated much better with the states.  Up to around 2 million people getting vaccinated daily and rising.  Looking more and more like we'll have a real summer.  Latest estimate is that our country (minus the retards) will be fully vaccinated by the end of May. 

Nice to see that he and his mail order bride and mother of his anchor baby both got vaccinated before leaving office.  What a fucking weasel.

Why get vaccinated over a hoax??

Good news though...Biden didn’t golf today.  Nice way to save $600,000. 

Bad news though...  if Trumpy isn’t installed as Prez in two days like some of these dumb asses believe, we won’t ever get to find out what his amazing healthcare plan was. 
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: AbrahamG on March 02, 2021, 05:19:45 PM
Cute. ;D

Did you expect the POTUS and his family not to get the vaccine? Come on, man! ;D

Looks like the Country will be operating normally by Summer, 2022. ;)

Texas is about to return to normal. Interested to see how it compares to the Communist lockdown we have in NM.

Of course I feel they should have gotten it. He should have made a big deal about it instead of hiding it so not to offend a large segment of his nutty followers.  Just like his interview last February with Bob Woodward - talking about how deadly this thing was gonna be.  He isn't stupid.  He isn't a religious nut.  He isn't anti science.  He played the role to get himself elected and he overplayed the role to get himself un-elected.  Had he tackled covid like a real human being or at the very least been honest about it, he'd be in his second term right now.

Cliff notes:  He admitted to Woodward that covid was gonna be deadly.  He got the vaccine because he believes in science.  He played to the dumbest elements of the American electorate and it cost him his job.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on March 02, 2021, 05:35:40 PM
I'm ready to be deprogrammed, can someone list me all the campaign promises Bitem has kept and all the positive political moves he has made to benefit American people?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Primemuscle on March 02, 2021, 11:29:23 PM
Since the adults took over, vaccinations (while not perfect) have been expedited and coordinated much better with the states.  Up to around 2 million people getting vaccinated daily and rising.  Looking more and more like we'll have a real summer.  Latest estimate is that our country (minus the retards) will be fully vaccinated by the end of May. 

Nice to see that he and his mail order bride and mother of his anchor baby both got vaccinated before leaving office.  What a fucking weasel.

Oregon has a long ways to go in order to meet the May timeline projection. Right now here, people of my advanced age can't get an appointment to be vaccinated even though we became eligible two weeks ago. Supposedly, there isn't enough of the vaccine available.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: AbrahamG on March 02, 2021, 11:40:35 PM
We'll get there.  3 full months to meet that goal.  J&J shipped out 4 million doses earlier today. 
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 03, 2021, 04:24:26 AM
One more day before Trumpy is POTUS again or the Trumpturds have another excuse on why he isn't.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 03, 2021, 06:20:06 AM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 03, 2021, 06:24:44 AM
      all they were missing was the fatted calf.         Fatted calf is a metaphor or symbol of festive celebration and rejoicing for someone's long-awaited return. ... In modern usage, "killing the fatted calf" can simply mean to celebrate in an exuberant manner, as used in the Elton John song "Bennie and the Jets".
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 03, 2021, 06:53:12 AM
Of course I feel they should have gotten it. He should have made a big deal about it instead of hiding it so not to offend a large segment of his nutty followers.  Just like his interview last February with Bob Woodward - talking about how deadly this thing was gonna be.  He isn't stupid.  He isn't a religious nut.  He isn't anti science.  He played the role to get himself elected and he overplayed the role to get himself un-elected.  Had he tackled covid like a real human being or at the very least been honest about it, he'd be in his second term right now.

Cliff notes:  He admitted to Woodward that covid was gonna be deadly.  He got the vaccine because he believes in science.  He played to the dumbest elements of the American electorate and it cost him his job.

Total truth.  As I have said, the only person dumber than Trump is his supporters.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 03, 2021, 09:43:00 AM

They could easily make a similar poster about abortion.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 03, 2021, 12:24:39 PM
Total truth.  As I have said, the only person dumber than Trump is his supporters.
:) the thing is, they don't even know they need to be deprogrammed.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on March 03, 2021, 12:27:07 PM
Let’s how many liberal liars we have on here. All funk can do is post up communist propaganda (every.single.post)

Give us something in the last 5 weeks Biden and his puppet masters have done right for this country and why. Let’s start Lurker and Funk

Should be a simple question since you “voted” for them





Funk is mad that Trump called his country (serbia) a " third world shithole".
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 03, 2021, 12:39:54 PM
:) the thing is, they don't even know they need to be deprogrammed.
That could easily be a poster about any democrat leader.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 03, 2021, 12:59:03 PM
That could easily be a poster about any democrat leader.
    I'm known as an independent so we have no leaders who we bow to. biden won the battle of the geriatrics this round, 2024 who knows.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Grape Ape on March 03, 2021, 01:07:18 PM
That could easily be a poster about any democrat leader.

The anti Trump movement, for sure, was a cult.

Believe EVERYTHING negative reported.  Every.  Single. Thing.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 03, 2021, 01:12:02 PM
The Worst President in History



President Donald Trump has long exulted in superlatives. The first. The best. The most. The greatest. “No president has ever done what I’ve done,” he boasts. “No president has ever even come close,” he says. But as his four years in office draw to an end, there’s only one title to which he can lay claim: Donald Trump is the worst president America has ever had.


In December 2019, he became the third president to be impeached. Last week, Trump entered a category all his own, becoming the first president to be impeached twice. But impeachment, which depends in part on the makeup of Congress, is not the most objective standard. What does being the worst president actually mean? And is there even any value, at the bitter end of a bad presidency, in spending energy on judging a pageant of failed presidencies?

It is helpful to think of the responsibilities of a president in terms of the two elements of the oath of office set forth in the Constitution. In the first part, presidents swear to “faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States.” This is a pledge to properly perform the three jobs the presidency combines into one: head of state, head of government, and commander in chief. In the second part, they promise to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”





Trump was a serial violator of his oath—as evidenced by his continual use of his office for personal financial gain—but focusing on three crucial ways in which he betrayed it helps clarify his singular historical status. First, he failed to put the national-security interests of the United States ahead of his own political needs. Second, in the face of a devastating pandemic, he was grossly derelict, unable or unwilling to marshal the requisite resources to save lives while actively encouraging public behavior that spread the disease. And third, held to account by voters for his failures, he refused to concede defeat and instead instigated an insurrection, stirring a mob that stormed the Capitol.

Many chief executives have failed, in one way or another, to live up to the demands of the job, or to competently discharge them. But historians now tend to agree that our worst presidents are those who fall short in the second part of their pledge, in some way endangering the Constitution. And if you want to understand why these three failures make Trump the worst of all our presidents, the place to begin is in the basement of the presidential rankings, where dwell his rivals for that singular dishonor.

For decades in the 20th century, many historians agreed that the title Trump has recently earned properly belonged to Warren G. Harding, a president they remembered. The journalist H. L. Mencken, master of the acidic bon mot, listened to Harding’s inaugural address and despaired. “No other such complete and dreadful nitwit is to be found in the pages of American history,” he wrote.


















Johnson used his pulpit to bully those who believed in equal rights for formerly enslaved people and to encourage a culture of grievance in the South, spreading myths about why the Civil War had occurred in the first place. Many people are responsible for the toxic views and policies that have so long denied Black Americans basic human rights, but Andrew Johnson was the first to use the office of the presidency to give that project national legitimacy and federal support. Having inherited Lincoln’s Cabinet, Johnson was forced to maneuver around Lincoln’s men to impose his own mean-spirited and racist vision of how to reintegrate the South. That got him impeached by the House. A Republican Senate then fell one vote short of removing him from office.




All three of these 19th-century presidents compiled awful records, but Buchanan stands apart because—besides undermining the Union, using his office to promote white supremacy, and demonstrating dereliction of duty in the decisive crisis of secession—he led an outrageously corrupt administration. He violated not just the second part of his oath, betraying the Constitution, but also the first part. Buchanan managed to be more corrupt than the low standard set by his contemporaries in Congress, which is saying something.

In 1858, members of Congress tried to curtail a routine source of graft, described by the historian Michael Holt as the “public printing rake-off.” At the time, there was no Government Printing Office, so contracts for printing the reams of congressional and executive-branch proceedings and statements went to private printers. In the 1820s, President Andrew Jackson had started steering these lucrative contracts to friends. By the 1850s, congressional investigators found that bribes were being extorted from would-be government printers, and that those who won contracts were kicking back a portion of their profits to the Democratic Party. Buchanan directly benefited from this system in the 1856 election. Although he signed reforms into law in 1858, he swiftly subverted them by permitting a subterfuge that allowed his key contributor—who owned a prominent pro-administration newspaper—to continue profiting from government printing.

Does Trump have any modern competitors for the title of worst president? Like Harding, a number of presidents were poor executors of the office. President Woodrow Wilson was an awful man who presided over an apartheid system in the nation’s capital, largely confined his support for democracy abroad to white nations, and then mishandled a pandemic. President Herbert Hoover helped drive the U.S. economy into the ground during the Great Depression, because the economics he learned as a young man proved fundamentally wrong. 

President George W. Bush’s impulse after 9/11 to weaken American civil liberties in the name of protecting them, and his blanket approval of interrogation techniques universally considered torture, left Americans disillusioned and impeded the struggle to deradicalize Islamists. His invasion of Iraq in 2003, like Thomas Jefferson’s embargo on foreign trade during the Napoleonic Wars, had disastrous consequences for American power, and undermined unity at home and abroad.

These presidents were each deeply flawed, but not in the same league as their predecessors who steered the country into Civil War or did their utmost to deprive formerly enslaved people of their hard-won rights while rewarding those who betrayed their country.

And then there’s Richard Nixon.

Before Trump, Nixon set the standard for modern presidential failure as the first president forced from office, who resigned ahead of impeachment. And in many ways, their presidencies have been eerily parallel. But the comparison to Nixon reveals the ways in which Trump’s presidency has been not merely bad, but the very worst we have ever seen.






Trump, too, put his political prospects ahead of any sense of duty. As a candidate, Trump openly appealed to Russia to steal his opponent’s emails. Then, as Russia dumped hacked emails from her campaign chair, he seized on the pilfered materials to suggest wrongdoing and amplified Russian disinformation efforts. Extensive investigations during his administration by then–Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the Senate Intelligence Committee didn’t produce any evidence suggesting that he directly abetted Russian hacking, but those investigations were impeded by a pattern of obstructive conduct that Mueller carefully outlined in his report.

Trump’s heartless and incompetent approach to immigration, his use of tax policy to punish states that didn’t vote for him, his diversion of public funds to properties owned by him and his family, his impulsive and self-defeating approach to trade, and his petulance toward traditional allies assured on their own that he would not be seen as a successful modern president. But those failures have more to do with the first part of his oath. The case that Trump is not just the worst of our modern presidents but the worst of them all rests on three other pillars, not all of which have a Nixonian parallel.

Trump is the first president since America became a superpower to subordinate national-security interests to his political needs. Nixon’s mishandling of renewed peace negotiations with Hanoi in the 1972 election campaign led to the commission of a war crime, the unnecessary “Christmas bombing” at the end of that year. But it cannot compare, in terms of the harm to U.S. national interests, to Trump’s serial subservience to foreign strongmen such as Recep Tayyip Erdoğan of Turkey, Kim Jong Un of North Korea, and, of course, Russia’s Vladimir Putin—none of whom act out of a sense of shared interests with the United States. Trump’s effort to squeeze the Ukrainians to get dirt on his likely opponent in 2020, the cause of his first impeachment, was just the best-documented instance of a form of corruption that characterized his entire foreign policy.

The second pillar is Trump’s dereliction of duty during the COVID-19 pandemic, which will have killed at least 400,000 Americans by the time he leaves office. In his inaugural address, Trump vowed an end to “American carnage,” but in office, he presided over needless death and suffering. Trump’s failure to anticipate and then respond to the pandemic has no equivalent in Nixon’s tenure; when Nixon wasn’t plotting political subversion and revenge against his perceived enemies, he could be a good administrator.



Trump, of course, is not the first president to have been surprised by a threat to our country. Franklin D. Roosevelt was caught off guard by the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Trump, like FDR, could have tried to redeem himself by his management of the response. But Trump lacked FDR’s intellectual and leadership skills. Instead of adapting, he dug in, denying the severity of the challenge and the importance of mask wearing and social distancing while bemoaning the likely damage to his beloved economy.

Trump continued to insist that he was in charge of America’s coronavirus response, but when being in charge required him to actively oversee plans—or at least to read and approve them—he punted on the tough issues of ramping up testing, and was painfully slow to secure sufficient protective equipment and ventilators. FDR didn’t directly manage the Liberty ship program, but he grasped its necessity and understood how to empower subordinates. Trump, instead, ignored his own experts and advisers, searching constantly for some silver bullet that would relieve him of the necessity of making hard choices. He threw money at pharmaceutical and biotech firms to accelerate work on vaccines, with good results, but went AWOL on the massive logistical effort administering those vaccines requires.

In doubling down on his opposition to basic public-health measures, the president crossed a new line of awfulness. Three of Trump’s tweets on April 17, 2020—“LIBERATE VIRGINIA,” “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!,” and “LIBERATE MINNESOTA!”—moved him into Pierce and Buchanan territory for the first time: The president was promoting disunity. The “liberation” he was advocating was civil disobedience against stay-at-home rules put in place by governors who were listening to public-health experts. Trump then organized a series of in-person rallies that sickened audience members and encouraged a wider public to put themselves at risk.

Trump channeled the same divisive spirit that Pierce and Buchanan had tapped by turning requests from the governors of the states that had been the hardest hit by the coronavirus into opportunities for partisan and sectarian attack.

Fifty-eight thousand Americans had already died of the virus when Trump signaled that ignoring or actively violating public-health mandates was a patriotic act. Over the summer, even as the death toll from COVID mounted, Trump never stopped bullying civic leaders who promoted mask wearing, and continued to hold large in-person rallies, despite the risk of spreading the virus. When the president himself became sick in the fall, rather than being sobered by his personal brush with serious illness, the president chose to turn a potential teachable moment for many Americans into a grotesque carnival. He used his presidential access to experimental treatment to argue that ordinary Americans need not fear the disease. He even took a joyride around Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in his closed, armored SUV to bask in the glow of his supporters’ adulation while endangering the health of his Secret Service detail.


American presidents have a mixed record with epidemics. For every Barack Obama, whose administration professionally managed the threats from Ebola and the H1N1 virus, or George W. Bush, who tackled AIDS in Africa, there’s been a Woodrow Wilson, who mishandled the influenza pandemic, or a Ronald Reagan, who was derelict in the face of AIDS. But neither Reagan nor Wilson actively promoted risky behavior for political purposes, nor did they personally obstruct federal-state partnerships that had been intended to control the spread of disease. On those points, Trump stands alone.

The third pillar of the case against Trump is his role as the chief instigator of the attempted insurrection of January 6. Although racism and violent nativism preceded Trump, the seeds of what happened on January 6 were planted by his use of the presidential bully pulpit. No president since Andrew Johnson had so publicly sympathized with the sense of victimhood among racists. In important ways, Nixon prefigured Trump by conspiring with his top lieutenants to use race, covertly, to bring about a realignment in U.S. politics. Nixon’s goal was to lure racists away from the Democratic Party and so transform the Republican Party into a governing majority. Trump has gone much further. From his remarks after the neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, to his effort to set the U.S. military against the Black Lives Matter movement, Trump has openly used race in an effort to transform the Republican Party into an agitated, cult-like, white-supremacist minority movement that could win elections only through fear, disenfranchisement, and disinformation.

Both Trump and Nixon sought to subvert any serious efforts to deny them reelection. Nixon approved a dirty-tricks campaign, and his chief of staff Bob Haldeman approved the details of an illegal espionage program against the eventual Democratic nominee. Nixon won his election but ultimately left office in the middle of his second term because the press, the Department of Justice, and Congress uncovered his efforts to hide his role in this subversion. They were helped in large part by Nixon’s absentminded taping of his own conversations.

Trump never won reelection. Instead, he mounted the first effort by a defeated incumbent to use the power of his office to overturn a presidential election. Both men looked for weaknesses in the system to retain power. But Trump’s attempt to steal the 2020 election put him in a class of awfulness all by himself.

Holding a national election during a pandemic was a test of the resilience of American democracy. State and local election officials looked for ways to boost participation without boosting the virus’s spread. In practical terms, this meant taking the pressure off same-day voting—limiting crowds at booths—by encouraging voting by mail and advance voting. Every candidate in the 2020 elections understood that tallying ballots would be slow in states that started counting only on Election Day. Even before voting began, Trump planted poisonous seeds of doubt about the fairness of this COVID-19 election. When the numbers didn’t go his way, Trump accelerated his disinformation campaign, alleging fraud in states that he had won in 2016 but lost four years later. The campaign was vigorous and widespread. Trump’s allies sought court injunctions and relief from Republican state officials. Lacking any actual evidence of widespread fraud, they lost in the courts. Despite having exploited every constitutional option, Trump refused to give up.



It was at this point that Trump went far beyond Nixon, or any of his other predecessors. In 1974, when the Supreme Court ruled unanimously in U.S. v. Nixon that Nixon had to turn over his White House tapes to a special prosecutor, Nixon also ran out of constitutional options. He knew that the tapes proved his guilt, and would likely lead to his impeachment and then to his conviction in the Senate. On July 24, Nixon said he would comply with the order from a coequal branch of our government, and ultimately accepted his political fate. In the end, even our most awful presidents before 2017 believed in the continuation of the system they had taken an oath to defend.

But not Trump. Heading into January 6, 2021, when Congress would ritually certify the election, Trump knew that he lacked the Electoral College votes to win or the congressional votes to prevent certification. He had only two cards left to play—neither one of which was consistent with his oath. He pushed Vice President Mike Pence to use his formal constitutional role as the play-by-play announcer of the count to unconstitutionally obstruct it, sending it back to the states for recertification. Meanwhile, to maintain pressure on Pence and Republicans in Congress, he gathered some of his most radicalized followers on the Mall and pointed the way to the Capitol, where the electoral count was about to begin. When Pence refused to exceed his constitutional authority, Trump unleashed his mob. He clearly wanted the count to be disrupted.

On January 6, Trump’s legacy was on a knife’s edge. Trump likely knew Pence’s intentions when he began to speak to the mob. He knew that the vice president would disappoint his hopes. In riling up the mob and sending it down Pennsylvania Avenue, he was imperiling the safety of his vice president and members of Congress. If there was any doubt that he was willing to countenance violence to get his way, it disappeared in the face of the president’s long inaction, as he sat in the White House watching live footage of the spreading assault.

And he may do still more damage before he departs.

Andrew Johnson left a political time bomb behind him in the nation’s capital. After the Democratic Party refused to nominate Johnson for a second term and Ulysses S. Grant won the election as a Republican, Johnson issued a broad political amnesty for many Confederates, including leaders who were under indictment such as the former president of the Confederate States, Jefferson Davis.

So much of the pain and suffering this country experienced in the Trump years started with that amnesty. Had Davis and top Confederate generals been tried and convicted, polite society in the South could not have viewed these traitors as heroes. Now Trump is hinting that he wishes to pardon those who aided and abetted him in office, and perhaps even pardon himself—similarly attempting to escape accountability, and to delay a reckoning.



As Trump prepares to leave Washington, the capital is more agitated than during any previous presidential transition since 1861, with thousands of National Guard troops deployed around the city. There have been serious threats to previous inaugurations. But for the first time in the modern era, those threats are internal. An incumbent president is being asked to discourage terrorism by supporters acting in his name.

There are many verdicts on Donald Trump still to come, from the Senate, from juries of private citizens, from scholars and historians. But as a result of his subversion of national security, his reckless endangerment of every American in the pandemic, and his failed insurrection on January 6, one thing seems abundantly clear: Trump is the worst president in the 232-year history of the United States.

So, why does this matter? If we have experienced an unprecedented political trauma, we should be prepared to act to prevent any recurrence. Nixon’s fall introduced an era of government reform—expanded privacy rights, overhauled campaign-finance rules, presidential-records preservation, and enhanced congressional oversight of covert operations.

Managing the pandemic must be the incoming Biden administration’s principal focus, but it needn’t be its only focus. Steps can be taken to ensure that the worst president ever is held to account, and to forestall a man like Trump ever abusing his power in this way again.

The first is to ensure that we preserve the record of what has taken place. As was done after the Nixon administration, Congress should pass a law establishing guidelines for the preservation of and access to the materials of the Trump presidency. Those guidelines should also protect nonpartisan public history at any public facility associated with the Trump era. The Presidential Records Act already puts those documents under the control of the archivist of the United States, but Congress should mandate that they be held in the D.C. area and that the National Archives should not partner with the Trump Foundation in any public-history efforts. Disentangling the federal Nixon Presidential Library from Nixon’s poisonous myths about Watergate took an enormous effort. The pressure on the National Archives to, in some way, enable and legitimate Trump’s own Lost Cause is likely to be even greater.

Trump’s documented relationship with the truth also ensures that his presidential  records will necessarily be incomplete. His presidency has revealed gaping loopholes in the process of public disclosure, which the president deftly exploited. Congress should mandate that future candidates and presidents release their tax returns. Congress should also seek to tightly constrict the definition of privacy regarding presidential medical records. It should also require presidents to fully disclose their own business activities, and those of members of their immediate family, conducted while in office. Congress should also claim, as public records, the transition materials of 2016–17 and 2020–21 and those of future transitions.

Finally, Congress must tend to American memory. It should establish a Joint Congressional Committee to study January 6 and the events and activities leading up to it, have public hearings, and issue a report. And it should bar the naming of federal buildings, installations, and vessels after Trump; his presidency should be remembered, but not commemorated.

Because this, ultimately, is the point of this entire exercise. If Trump is now the worst president we have ever had, it’s up to every American to ensure that no future chief executive ever exceeds him.   BIG SHOES TO FILL, FOR SURE.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: bigkid on March 03, 2021, 01:18:03 PM
Trump was the best President of my lifetime from a factual analysis. 
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 03, 2021, 01:31:25 PM
Trump was the best President of my lifetime from a factual analysis.
                      I guess you were born yesterday. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: bigkid on March 03, 2021, 01:36:22 PM
                      I guess you were born yesterday. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
No, but i am successful, which means i had more to gain with a good economy and tax structure.  Nobodies like yourself aren't affected by any administration.  I don't know why you care so deeply.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Kwon on March 03, 2021, 03:00:02 PM
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Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 03, 2021, 04:10:36 PM
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LOL.  Reminds me of a girl in middle school.  Every time she got mad (which was a lot) she would actually growl like a dog and pinch the shit out of herself.   She would just grab a hunk of skin on her arms, neck, stomach or legs and just pinch like a MF.  Leaving nail prints behind. 

Since it wasn’t hurting us non we went out of our way to antagonize her.   A month later she looked like she had been in a car wreck. 
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on March 03, 2021, 04:18:21 PM
I'm ready to be deprogrammed, can someone list me all the campaign promises Bitem has kept and all the positive political moves he has made to benefit American people?
Anyone ???
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: ThisisOverload on March 03, 2021, 04:19:32 PM
Anyone ???

It's all about those Executive Orders man.

Best President in history. ;D

Bet he gets cramps in his hands from all the signing he does.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 04, 2021, 05:14:42 AM
No, but i am successful, which means i had more to gain with a good economy and tax structure.  Nobodies like yourself aren't affected by any administration.  I don't know why you care so deeply.
                        so I'm a nobody how white of you. put some pics of your mansion and yacht and cars so we the community of getbig at large can judge your successes. here's mine. your turn. ::)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: bigkid on March 04, 2021, 05:23:15 AM
                        so I'm a nobody how white of you. put some pics of your mansion and yacht and cars so we the community of getbig at large can judge your successes. your turn. ::)
You're not white?  Now I really know I'm much better than you.  I just assumed you were a white loser.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on March 04, 2021, 05:55:32 AM
I've always suspected that funk is a disgruntled black guy, it explains his twisted, disjointed World view.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 04, 2021, 06:58:06 AM
You're not white?  Now I really know I'm much better than you.  I just assumed you were a white loser.
                   
      so where's the pics. ??? ??? ???  judge not lest ye be judged.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 04, 2021, 07:05:33 AM
I've always suspected that funk is a disgruntled black guy, it explains his twisted, disjointed World view.
;D  ::) ;) :D ::)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Hypertrophy on March 04, 2021, 07:20:28 AM
I've always suspected that funk is a disgruntled black guy, it explains his twisted, disjointed World view.


He is. He often posts pics of him as a white guy but it was shown a few years ago he is actually of African descent, just like Lurkernomore and AbrahamG
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Kwon on March 04, 2021, 08:06:04 AM

He is. He often posts pics of him as a white guy but it was shown a few years ago he is actually of African descent, just like Lurkernomore and AbrahamG

Explains everything, ye?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 04, 2021, 08:38:34 AM

He is. He often posts pics of him as a white guy but it was shown a few years ago he is actually of African descent, just like Lurkernomore and AbrahamG

If I were black, you may have a point.  But since I am not, you don't. 

When all you got is assumptions about someone else, then you really ain't got shit.  No surprise.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 04, 2021, 12:09:27 PM

He is. He often posts pics of him as a white guy but it was shown a few years ago he is actually of African descent, just like Lurkernomore and AbrahamG
  no hyper, you've got it wrong mister potato head thought I looked of Asian descent he called me china man and other derogatory terms. you have to consider the source. I'm actually full blooded Czechoslovakian so I'm considered white. I have a question for you, it's off topic, what's your resting oxygen and pulse. and high do you get your pulse up to during your cycling exercises. one more thing how fast does it get back to normal after vigorous exercise. serious inquiries
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 04, 2021, 12:55:47 PM
     
&t=7s
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on March 04, 2021, 05:18:50 PM
If I were black, you may have a point.  But since I am not, you don't. 

When all you got is assumptions about someone else, then you really ain't got shit.  No surprise.
You've never posted a pic of yourself. It's safe to assume you are a skinny foreign black kid that doesn't lift.  :-*
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 04, 2021, 05:44:13 PM
You've never posted a pic of yourself. It's safe to assume you are a skinny foreign black kid that doesn't lift.  :-*

Could be worse.  I could be a chubby tit, cone head with cankles worse than Hillary, and shitty convict tats.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on March 04, 2021, 06:55:31 PM
Could be worse.  I could be a chubby tit, cone head with cankles worse than Hillary, and shitty convict tats.
You're not nearly man enough to pull that look off, foreigner.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 04, 2021, 06:57:29 PM
You're not nearly man enough to pull that look off, foreigner.

Only because I can’t mimic those Oprah hips you have.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on March 04, 2021, 06:59:38 PM
Only because I can’t mimic those Oprah hips you have.
Of course not, you're an effeminate black guy.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: AbrahamG on March 04, 2021, 07:17:48 PM
Not that either of you asked, but I'd still fuck Oprah.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on March 04, 2021, 07:19:08 PM
Not that either of you asked, but I'd still fuck Oprah.
For free ???
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 04, 2021, 07:49:04 PM
Of course not, you're an effeminate black guy.

If I were that would still be better than a white trash convict.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: AbrahamG on March 04, 2021, 07:58:52 PM
For free ???

No, I'd offer her a few bucks.  8)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 05, 2021, 11:36:33 AM
march 4 th has come and gone time for plan B
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on March 05, 2021, 01:48:32 PM

He is. He often posts pics of him as a white guy but it was shown a few years ago he is actually of African descent, just like Lurkernomore and AbrahamG




C'mon funk....If you are proud of being black you wouldn't deny it.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Primemuscle on March 05, 2021, 02:35:29 PM
march 4 th has come and gone time for plan B

Plan B has a lot of ifs.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: AbrahamG on March 05, 2021, 03:25:36 PM

He is. He often posts pics of him as a white guy but it was shown a few years ago he is actually of African descent, just like Lurkernomore and AbrahamG

I like it.  Let's go with it.  For now on I'd like to be referred to as Black Abe.  Whom do I send a request to for an official name change. 
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Henda on March 05, 2021, 03:27:11 PM
Haha for years I thought Abraham g was a a darkie and actually felt a bit guilty about posting darkie shit as he is pretty cool and funny but he said he’s white a few weeks back
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: AbrahamG on March 05, 2021, 03:31:56 PM
Haha for years I thought Abraham g was a a darkie and actually felt a bit guilty about posting darkie shit as he is pretty cool and funny but he said he’s white a few weeks back

You're ok in my book too pal. 
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: chaos on March 05, 2021, 03:55:15 PM
If I were that would still be better than a white trash convict.
Leave Joe Bitem out of this.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 07, 2021, 04:44:03 AM
Exclusive: Georgia prosecutor probing Trump taps leading racketeering attorney
By Linda So

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(Reuters) - The district attorney investigating whether former U.S. President Donald Trump illegally interfered with Georgia’s 2020 election has hired an outside lawyer who is a national authority on racketeering, a source familiar with the matter told Reuters.


FILE PHOTO: Former U.S. President Donald Trump speaks at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Orlando, Florida, U.S. February 28, 2021. REUTERS/Joe Skipper
Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has enlisted the help of Atlanta lawyer John Floyd, who wrote a national guide on prosecuting state racketeering cases. Floyd was hired recently to “provide help as needed” on matters involving racketeering, including the Trump investigation and other cases, said the source, who has direct knowledge of the situation.

The move bolsters the team investigating Trump as Willis prepares to issue subpoenas for evidence on whether the former president and his allies broke the law in their campaign to pressure state officials to reverse his Georgia election loss. Willis has said that her office would examine potential charges including “solicitation of election fraud, the making of false statements to state and local governmental bodies, conspiracy, racketeering” among other possible violations.

A representative for Trump did not respond to requests for comment.

Floyd’s appointment signals that racketeering could feature prominently in the investigation. It’s an area of law where Willis has extensive experience - including a high-profile Atlanta case where she won racketeering convictions of 11 public educators for a scheme to cheat on standardized tests.

The investigation of Trump focuses in part on his phone call to Georgia’s secretary of state, asking the secretary to “find” the votes needed to overturn Trump’s election loss, based on false voter-fraud claims.

Willis - a Democrat who in January became the county’s first Black woman district attorney - will have to navigate a fraught political landscape. She faces pressure from Democrats in Atlanta and nationally to pursue an aggressive prosecution, along with scrutiny from Republicans in a state historically dominated by that party.

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Floyd declined to comment when asked about the appointment but spoke to Reuters about his past experiences working with Willis.

In 2014, when Willis was an assistant district attorney in Atlanta, Floyd was brought in as a special prosecutor for the racketeering case that grew out of the schools cheating scandal.

“It was very much a team effort,” Floyd said of working with Willis.

The cheating case could provide clues to her strategy for investigating Trump, legal experts say, while stressing that the probe is still in its early stages.

If she pursues racketeering charges, Willis will need to prove a pattern of corruption by Trump, alone or with his allies, aimed at overturning the election results to stay in power. While racketeering is typically pursued by prosecutors in cases involving such crimes as murder, kidnapping, and bribery, the Georgia statute defines racketeering more broadly to include false statements made to state officials.

The federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) was originally passed in 1970 to help tie Mafia bosses to the crimes of their underlings by allowing prosecutors to argue they conspired together in a “criminal enterprise.” Over the years, however, its reach has grown to include businesses and other organizations as enterprises subject to the law.


Willis specifically listed racketeering and lying to public officials in detailing the possible crimes her office intended to investigate in a Feb. 10 letter to four Republican state officials, asking them to preserve records related to the case.

“That letter was really a signal to the public that she was going after a number of possibilities,” said Clark Cunningham, a Georgia State University law professor.

Georgia lawyers familiar with the state RICO law said Willis may be considering whether it would apply to alleged false statements made by Trump and his allies as they sought to influence state officials to reverse his election loss.

“It’s not a stretch to see where she’s taking this,” said Cathy Cox, the dean of Mercer University’s law school in Macon, Georgia and a former Georgia secretary of state. “If Donald Trump engaged in two or more acts that involve false statements - that were made knowingly and willfully in an attempt to falsify material fact, like the election results - then you can piece together a violation of the racketeering act.”

Racketeering, a felony in Georgia, can carry stiff penalties including up to 20 years in prison and a hefty fine. “There are not a lot of people who avoid serving prison time on a racketeering offense,” said Cox.

‘FIND’ THE VOTES

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In a Jan. 2 phone call, Trump urged Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a fellow Republican, to “find” just enough votes to allow him to win. In the hour-long call, Trump repeated false voter-fraud claims, insisting he won Georgia by a landslide and that Democrat Joe Biden received thousands of votes from people who were out-of-state, unregistered, or dead. Trump made another phone call in late December to Georgia’s chief elections investigator, urging the official to “find the fraud.”

On Dec. 5, Trump called the state’s Republican governor, Brian Kemp, to urge him to hold a special session of the legislature to overturn the election results. Three days later, Trump called Georgia’s Republican attorney general, Chris Carr, warning him not to interfere with a Texas lawsuit that challenged the election results in Georgia and other states.

Carr stated publicly that he opposed the Texas lawsuit. The offices of Kemp and Carr did not respond to requests for comment for this story.

Willis’ office has indicated it is also examining efforts to influence the election by Trump’s allies, including a November phone call made by Republican Senator Lindsey Graham to Raffensperger to discuss mail-in ballots; false election fraud claims made by Trump’s then personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, in testimony at state legislative hearings; and the abrupt removal of Byung J. “BJay” Pak, a U.S. attorney in Georgia who angered Trump by not doing enough to investigate his unfounded fraud claims.

Legal experts say prosecutors could use the pattern of false statements in a pressure campaign to build a RICO case, but that Willis would face the burden of proving Trump knew his fraud allegations were false. In a trial, Trump could argue that he did not deliberately break the law because he truly believed he had been cheated, said Kurt Kastorf, an Atlanta attorney and former U.S. Justice Department prosecutor.

“Trump’s lawyers could reasonably point to portions of the call with the Secretary of State where Trump seems to be making clear that the reason they need to do something is because there is fraud in the election,” he said. “Prosecutors would need to respond with evidence that this asserted reason is insincere.”

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As an assistant district attorney in Atlanta, Willis employed the state’s racketeering statute in the complex test-cheating case - leading to a six-month trial, the longest in Georgia history.

Willis led a team of prosecutors in laying out the case that educators had operated a criminal enterprise within the public school system in a conspiracy to cheat, winning convictions in April 2015. Willis and her team walked jurors through months of testimony in the intricate case, which accused 12 former teachers, principals and administrators of inflating scores on standardized tests to secure promotions and cash bonuses. Eleven were convicted; some got prison time.

“I’ve worked on some pretty intense cases over the years,” said Floyd, the RICO expert. “But as far as duration and complexity, that would be hard to match.”

As a private attorney, Floyd is widely respected in legal circles for his expertise and experience litigating complex RICO cases. In addition to the cheating case, he helped convict a former sheriff of Georgia’s DeKalb County for ordering the murder of his elected successor. Floyd successfully defended the conviction, which included racketeering offenses, all the way to Georgia’s Supreme Court.

Anti-racketeering laws are a powerful tool for prosecutors, but building a successful case requires meeting a complex set of legal requirements, according to Floyd, who wrote the book, “RICO State by State: A Guide to Litigation Under the State Racketeering Statutes.”

In 1985, he joined the Atlanta law firm Bondurant Mixson & Elmore LLP, where he still works. Prior to joining the firm, Floyd clerked for a federal judge where he was introduced to RICO cases. “I worked on a few of them there, and my interest grew,” Floyd said.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: TheGrinch on March 07, 2021, 09:48:45 AM
march 4 th has come and gone time for plan B

2024 election would then again be rigged just like the last one
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 07, 2021, 10:40:54 AM
2024 election would then again be rigged just like the last one
   
&t=55s     he sure is a crowd pleaser.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 07, 2021, 11:45:18 AM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on March 08, 2021, 10:13:36 AM
Hey funk...Do you like fried chicken?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 08, 2021, 02:04:25 PM
Hey funk...Do you like fried chicken?
  yowzah boss, and grape soda, watermelon and ripple too,
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 09, 2021, 12:25:20 PM
                           
                                           
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 09, 2021, 06:04:13 PM
Nice job, losers


https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/03/number-of-covid-positive-migrants-released-in-u-s-is-surging/
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on March 10, 2021, 09:47:29 AM
How many times has Jabbar been arrested? And his son recently arrested for murder, maybe it's genetic.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 10, 2021, 10:41:25 AM
Jabbar is a minimalist.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on March 10, 2021, 04:15:20 PM
As in brains?
He  and Jim Brown were both violent lowlifes who were coddled and pampered through life but still acted ghetto. I'm starting to think some things are genetic.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: AbrahamG on March 10, 2021, 05:28:18 PM
As in brains?
He  and Jim Brown were both violent lowlifes who were coddled and pampered through life but still acted ghetto. I'm starting to think some things are genetic.

Quite ignorant.  Not surprised.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on March 11, 2021, 05:49:43 AM
Look at Jim Browns arrest record, one time he threw his girlfriend off a second floor balcony. Look at Jabbar, in a road rage incident he followed a guy half his size  into a shopping center and jammed his head through a plate glass window. Both are lowlifes, and you and funk support  them because you are of the same race.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 11, 2021, 06:01:17 AM
Look at Jim Browns arrest record, one time he threw his girlfriend off a second floor balcony. Look at Jabbar, in a road rage incident he followed a guy half his size  into a shopping center and jammed his head through a plate glass window. Both are lowlifes, and you and funk support  them because you are of the same race.
    dude, I'm actually white but you are right jabbar and brown did do some {many} bad things, but they also did some good too. does the good outweigh the bad ??? who knows. I remember reading about brown throwing the girl off the balcony. he came up with some cockamamy excuse that the girl did it as a favor for him, WHAT ? ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 11, 2021, 10:07:02 AM
As in brains?
He  and Jim Brown were both violent lowlifes who were coddled and pampered through life but still acted ghetto. I'm starting to think some things are genetic.
Just now?
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: oldgolds on March 11, 2021, 11:54:07 AM
C'mon funk, you are a black guy from Norristown and should be ashamed for denying it.
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 11, 2021, 01:35:37 PM
C'mon funk, you are a black guy from Norristown and should be ashamed for denying it.
     
      ::) :o ;D :D ;) ::)
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 13, 2021, 11:25:14 AM
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 14, 2021, 11:46:35 AM
   
   
     
&t=2s
Title: Re: deprogramming the trumptards.
Post by: funk51 on March 14, 2021, 11:48:08 AM
&t=27s