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So I see the new UFC game is going to have Bruce as a character , I'm not much of a gamer but it does raise an interesting question in my mind, How would he fare in today's MMA scene.
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Finally a question that has never been asked!
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He wouldn't stand a chance against prime Ronnie.
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Kai would submit him with his towel head lock.
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I don't play video games, but Bruce Lee kicking ass in the octagon is very appealing.
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I don't play video games, but Bruce Lee kicking ass in the octagon is very appealing.
Bruce Lee looks like in slow motion mode in the game.
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They need to add Tyson in there too.
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Very cool
They need to add Tyson too yes
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How much did Bruce Lee really weigh? #115lbs?
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How much did Bruce Lee really weigh? #115lbs?
In between 135-145lbs
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He was a fraud, pure and simple, never had a real fight in all his life... His myth relies on hearsay only, he was not a legit fighter... He had some good ideas about cross training, nothing new or revolutionary though, vale tudo and pankration existed way before him... He was more of a philosopher and liked to spar with some legit martial artists of that time... But i repeat, he was not a fighter...
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He was a fraud, pure and simple, never had a real fight in all his life... His myth relies on hearsay only, he was not a legit fighter... He had some good ideas about cross training, nothing new or revolutionary though, vale tudo and pankration existed way before him... He was more of a philosopher and liked to spar with some legit martial artists of that time... But i repeat, he was not a fighter...
He'd kick your ass
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Dude.. Bruce Lee KILLED Chuck Norris on video.. On a serious note...He'd beat your ass.
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He was a fraud, pure and simple, never had a real fight in all his life... His myth relies on hearsay only, he was not a legit fighter... He had some good ideas about cross training, nothing new or revolutionary though, vale tudo and pankration existed way before him... He was more of a philosopher and liked to spar with some legit martial artists of that time... But i repeat, he was not a fighter...
Funny Post. :D
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The mma guys now are stronger and have adapted to this. bruce lee was very ahead of his time with ground fighting. He looked at all the ways and mixed them up. he was a modern Warrior.
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Bruce Lee VS Marty Falcon
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The mma guys now are stronger and have adapted to this. bruce lee was very ahead of his time with ground fighting. He looked at all the ways and mixed them up. he was a modern Warrior.
well said
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They called him the Father of Modern MMA since he mixed it up and used so many different techniques and things from different styles into one.
Normally in the 60's and 70s, it was usually one discipline you focused on.
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well said
Thanks Bro
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How much did Bruce Lee really weigh? #115lbs?
3:38
Here he is in his Bulking Phase,
timing the Anabolic Window and honing the Lactic Acids of Peace :D
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Very cool
They need to add Tyson too yes
And Van Damme and Segal....
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WES would've kicked his ass while being paralysed from middle to the bottom.
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WES would've kicked his ass while being paralysed from middle to the bottom.
Please
We all know the real badass is arce
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Please
We all know the real badass is arce
Truth.
EA sports didnt want to sign the waiver to get him into the digital octagon
Heard he will be available as DLC though. Comes with a quickerblade skin bonus.
Just go to LAX to redeem.
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3:38
Here he is in his Bulking Phase,
timing the Anabolic Window and honing the Lactic Acids of Peace :D
that chick has some fatass arms
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that chick has some fatass arms
Hopefully a phat ass too
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Classic idolatry... Show me just ONE proof that he was a legit fighter and not only an actor and MA enthusiast, just one...
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He had alot of streetfights in Hong Kong
Also got challenged regularly on set by people who wanted to test him and didn't think he was special
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He had alot of streetfights in Hong Kong
Also got challenged regularly on set by people who wanted to test him and didn't think he was special
Chuck Norris was world champion at the time he and Bruce had fights on and of screen all the time. Chuck Norris said Bruce Lee kicked his ass like no other fighter ever. No one hit harder and faster then Lee.
Norris said thats where the roundhouse kick came from. Him gettn kicked in the head and missing lee.
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He had alot of streetfights in Hong Kong
Also got challenged regularly on set by people who wanted to test him and didn't think he was special
That's the classic hearsay that fuel the myth... Challenged on set and not one single recording of what happened, funny stuff... I also had some "streetfights" when i was in school, does that make me a fighter? Hell no... Don't believe this stuff, he was an actor, not a fighter...
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That's the classic hearsay that fuel the myth... Challenged on set and not one single recording of what happened, funny stuff... I also had some "streetfights" when i was in school, does that make me a fighter? Hell no... Don't believe this stuff, he was an actor, not a fighter...
it was 1968.! I don't think they had Tapout shirts back then
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it was 1968.! I don't think they had Tapout shirts back then
Yep, no one ever tackled anyone. Street fights consisted of lighting fast camera zooms, intense facial expressions, and feline noises.
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He'd kick your ass
Hahahaha! He really would ! Don't worry mine too. Its fucking Bruce lee !!
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That's the classic hearsay that fuel the myth... Challenged on set and not one single recording of what happened, funny stuff... I also had some "streetfights" when i was in school, does that make me a fighter? Hell no... Don't believe this stuff, he was an actor, not a fighter...
Not hearsay at all.
I was there.
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Not hearsay at all.
I was there.
8) 8)!
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iBQo77PwEww/TTwn9OS_P0I/AAAAAAAAJnY/ZKWzSbXChzw/s400/jay_cutler_mrOlympia_ifbb_bodybuilder_photoshoot_army_2011_2.jpg)
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That's the classic hearsay that fuel the myth... Challenged on set and not one single recording of what happened, funny stuff... I also had some "streetfights" when i was in school, does that make me a fighter? Hell no... Don't believe this stuff, he was an actor, not a fighter...
Its not hearsay - its from credible witnesses who were actually there. A recording? Yeah cause everyone back then had camera phones and filmed everything that happened. ::).
One of the most bizarre asumptions people tend to make is they view movie fights as though thats how a martial artist would actually fight in real life. Acrobatics, squaring off, taunts etc. When filmed martial artists often overexaggerate everything for the camera. Kicks are fancier and done slower to look more impressive for the camera.
Bruce pointed out several times that no one fights for real like they do in a camera. A real fight is nasty brutish and doesnt involve fancy moves. Van damme once stated that he'd never do his camera style moves when he actually competed. Chuck Norris was another guy who echoed the same sentiment. Maybe you think bruce would start a real fight with a stance, pause a few seconds to glower at his opponent and frequently make yipping sounds when he threw a punch or kick. Yeah thats how he really throws down right?
That was one the fundamentals of bruce Lee's research and practice into fighting - how to finish off your opponent off as quickly and directly as possible. Bruce lee learned martial arts specifically because he was losing as many fights as he won in hong kong. He was part of a gang in hong kong and gangs usually squared off against each other constantly He chose wing chun because it was the most direct and efficient style he could find at the time. He later evolved it to add boxing, wrestling, thai kickboxing, basically anything that helped to win a fight. He was the real deal. He was a fighter who got into acting. Not the other way around. Same as chuck norris, van damme, and several others. He also trained world champions lime Joe Lewis and chuck Norris.
Go ask some old school genuine fighters like bob wall, bill wallace, blinky rodriguez, jeff Smith or benny urquidez if he was a fake and watch them laugh at your ignorance. Look at some of the interviews done with gene la belle, a real old school wrestler,tough guy and stuntman. Gene said many times that bruce is the real deal.
Movie fights are exaggerated for your entertainment. Oddly enought before bruce Lee movies old kung fu movies had even more exaggerated flowery style fighting and the reason bruce lee movies became popular was because audiences thought that the fights in big boss looked more real than anything they had seen in the past. Thats what catapulted him to fame.Martial arts movies have evolved again to the popularity of MMA. Now you see armbars, triangles etc making their appearance in movies in order to keep up with reality.
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Some new pics of Alucard
(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/3198/1742662-tapout2.jpg)
When wearing a Tapout-shirt isn't enough
(http://wtftattoos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tapout.jpg)
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Some new pics of Alucard
(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/3198/1742662-tapout2.jpg)
When wearing a Tapout-shirt isn't enough
(http://wtftattoos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tapout.jpg)
Hahaha
The tapout founders were sponsoring mma fighters back when there were very few sponsors and mma was considered illegal. Its unfortunate that their brand is now associated with wannabes.
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Remember, Bruce in all his writings, speeches and training protocols demanded the necessitated need for full contact sparring with safety equipment such as the specially designed equiptment, both hybrid Boxing gloves with fingers were used as well as footpads or shinguards. He consistently spoke about this, assuring that hundred percent contact and intensity was more realistic with protective gear and rules protecting the groin and eye gouge, then the supposedly deadly martial artists, who did the techniques that you can only execute without full speed or power, with a cooperating opponent.
However, Bruce never practiced what he preached and 2 top true fighters of his time (Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis) were made to appear to be his students, but both of them claimed it was a more of a mutual training and sharing of ideas. But most tellingly, both especially Joe Louis stated that Bruce refused to everRemember, Bruce in all his writings, speeches and training protocols demanded the necessitated need for full contact sparring with safety equipment such as the specially designed equiptment, both hybrid Boxing gloves with fingers were used as well as footpads or shinguards. He consistently spoke about this, assuring that hundred percent intensity was more realistic with protective gear and rules protecting the groin and eye gouge, and supposedly having did the techniques that you can only executed have speed or power with a cooperating opponent spar and they never ever did anything with real contact, in any session that either fighter was doing with him.
Lewis was respectful, but subtly implied why this "fighter," who advocated speed and technique over size and real sparring over forms and theory, would never , ever want to spar with him, despite knowing it was a chance for Bruce to test his techniques on one of the true first full contact fighters as well as a champion. Bruce was an actor with a great mind for martial arts and physical training, but he was no fighter. He never sparred his best students (as he himself acknowledged the best path to physical development), nor bothered competing in kickboxing, Tae Kwon Do, Muay Thai (yes he was aware of it and trying to add the low Thai kick to JKD), or any wrestling or Judo tournaments.
Compare him to a Rolls Gracie or Rickson Graice, who both competed in wrestling, judo, Sambo, jiu jitsu, submission grappling, Luta Livre fights, as well as full on NHB fights. These men were fighters, not actors...
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That's the classic hearsay that fuel the myth... Challenged on set and not one single recording of what happened, funny stuff... I also had some "streetfights" when i was in school, does that make me a fighter? Hell no... Don't believe this stuff, he was an actor, not a fighter...
::)
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I want a game with Tyson, Lee, Lenny Mclean, Brian Cockerill, ete etc!! Imagine that!
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Some new pics of Alucard
(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/3198/1742662-tapout2.jpg)
When wearing a Tapout-shirt isn't enough
(http://wtftattoos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tapout.jpg)
:D :D :D!
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Its not hearsay - its from credible witnesses who were actually there. A recording? Yeah cause everyone back then had camera phones and filmed everything that happened. ::).
One of the most bizarre asumptions people tend to make is they view movie fights as though thats how a martial artist would actually fight in real life. Acrobatics, squaring off, taunts etc. When filmed martial artists often overexaggerate everything for the camera. Kicks are fancier and done slower to look more impressive for the camera.
Bruce pointed out several times that no one fights for real like they do in a camera. A real fight is nasty brutish and doesnt involve fancy moves. Van damme once stated that he'd never do his camera style moves when he actually competed. Chuck Norris was another guy who echoed the same sentiment. Maybe you think bruce would start a real fight with a stance, pause a few seconds to glower at his opponent and frequently make yipping sounds when he threw a punch or kick. Yeah thats how he really throws down right?
That was one the fundamentals of bruce Lee's research and practice into fighting - how to finish off your opponent off as quickly and directly as possible. Bruce lee learned martial arts specifically because he was losing as many fights as he won in hong kong. He was part of a gang in hong kong and gangs usually squared off against each other constantly He chose wing chun because it was the most direct and efficient style he could find at the time. He later evolved it to add boxing, wrestling, thai kickboxing, basically anything that helped to win a fight. He was the real deal. He was a fighter who got into acting. Not the other way around. Same as chuck norris, van damme, and several others. He also trained world champions lime Joe Lewis and chuck Norris.
Go ask some old school genuine fighters like bob wall, bill wallace, blinky rodriguez, jeff Smith or benny urquidez if he was a fake and watch them laugh at your ignorance. Look at some of the interviews done with gene la belle, a real old school wrestler,tough guy and stuntman. Gene said many times that bruce is the real deal.
Movie fights are exaggerated for your entertainment. Oddly enought before bruce Lee movies old kung fu movies had even more exaggerated flowery style fighting and the reason bruce lee movies became popular was because audiences thought that the fights in big boss looked more real than anything they had seen in the past. Thats what catapulted him to fame.Martial arts movies have evolved again to the popularity of MMA. Now you see armbars, triangles etc making their appearance in movies in order to keep up with reality.
C'mon, guy. You're not really buying this, are you? Wallace, Lewis, Urquidez, Norris, etc. were all competitive fighters. Benny and Wallace, especially, full-contact guys; they would've ended the Bruce myth in a single round.
Demonstrations and wonderfully choreographed fight scenes is all we got from Lee. I love the guy, but let's be honest about his 'legend.'
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C'mon, guy. You're not really buying this, are you? Wallace, Lewis, Urquidez, Norris, etc. were all competitive fighters. Benny and Wallace, especially, full-contact guys; they would've ended the Bruce myth in a single round.
Demonstrations and wonderfully choreographed fight scenes is all we got from Lee. I love the guy, but let's be honest about his 'legend.'
Cmon we go to keep the legend alive. 8)
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Bruce Lee.....LOLOL.
He was an actor
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Bruce Lee was an actor, plain and simple.
He has no tournament records or professional fights, because he simply was not a fighter.
He wasn't a fighter, just as Jean Claude Van Damme is not a fighter.
Was it possible that Bruce Lee knew how to fight and could very easily defend himself against the average man or even seasoned fighter? Sure.
Did he have what it takes to actually compete in mixed martial arts or professional boxing? Maybe, but he didn't give us anything to determine this from.
He was a very good actor, when you consider the level of conviction that his roles portrayed and the fact that his "legend" has lived on as long as it has.
Jet Li isn't a fighter, but if you go by his movies, you would assume that he could defeat any professional fighter. Similar to Lee, Jet Li could easily spar with Randy Couture and afterwards Couture can say that Jet Li got him in a number of moves that rendered his skill set useless. Does this mean that Jet Li should then be remembered throughout time as some sort of professional fighter that never showcased his skills due to a larger calling in the realm of acting? Absolutely not.
I like Bruce Lee and I think his movies were entertaining, but a fighter he was not.
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Yeah, but seriously... Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Chuck Liddell?
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How much did Bruce Lee really weigh? #115lbs?
You sure?
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You sure?
3:38
Here he is in his Bulking Phase,
timing the Anabolic Window and honing the Lactic Acids of Peace :D
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Maybe he was a lover and a fighter, just like Dan Hill.
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Bruce Lee was an actor, plain and simple.
He has no tournament records or professional fights, because he simply was not a fighter.
He wasn't a fighter, just as Jean Claude Van Damme is not a fighter.
Was it possible that Bruce Lee knew how to fight and could very easily defend himself against the average man or even seasoned fighter? Sure.
Did he have what it takes to actually compete in mixed martial arts or professional boxing? Maybe, but he didn't give us anything to determine this from.
He was a very good actor, when you consider the level of conviction that his roles portrayed and the fact that his "legend" has lived on as long as it has.
Jet Li isn't a fighter, but if you go by his movies, you would assume that he could defeat any professional fighter. Similar to Lee, Jet Li could easily spar with Randy Couture and afterwards Couture can say that Jet Li got him in a number of moves that rendered his skill set useless. Does this mean that Jet Li should then be remembered throughout time as some sort of professional fighter that never showcased his skills due to a larger calling in the realm of acting? Absolutely not.
I like Bruce Lee and I think his movies were entertaining, but a fighter he was not.
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This X 1000
I think many of you younger guys don't realize how badass Chuck Norris really was when he was a young man.
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Bruce Lee was an actor, plain and simple.
He has no tournament records or professional fights, because he simply was not a fighter.
He wasn't a fighter, just as Jean Claude Van Damme is not a fighter.
Was it possible that Bruce Lee knew how to fight and could very easily defend himself against the average man or even seasoned fighter? Sure.
Did he have what it takes to actually compete in mixed martial arts or professional boxing? Maybe, but he didn't give us anything to determine this from.
He was a very good actor, when you consider the level of conviction that his roles portrayed and the fact that his "legend" has lived on as long as it has.
Jet Li isn't a fighter, but if you go by his movies, you would assume that he could defeat any professional fighter. Similar to Lee, Jet Li could easily spar with Randy Couture and afterwards Couture can say that Jet Li got him in a number of moves that rendered his skill set useless. Does this mean that Jet Li should then be remembered throughout time as some sort of professional fighter that never showcased his skills due to a larger calling in the realm of acting? Absolutely not.
I like Bruce Lee and I think his movies were entertaining, but a fighter he was not.
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Fuck no, he's not. A pretty gymnast in a gi is all.
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This X 1000
I think many of you younger guys don't realize how badass Chuck Norris really was when he was a young man.
Chuck was a legit middleweight champ. Incredible record, too, but he mostly fought in point tournaments. Not sure if he ever crossed over into full-contact, if it was even around back then. Wallace was a monster in FC, but no one dominated like Benny the Jet. Urquidez would embarrass pretty much anybody.
I'll ask again, any of you old school Karate fans remember a tourney fighter named Frank Smith? Dude was a legend in the 60s/70s.
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Finally someone that uses brain like One More Rep and The Ugly... Kwon_2 what those supposed pictrures of me represent? I'm not a fighter, neither a MA practitioner... Bruce Lee, the movie star with no recorded fights, lol... He's no different than Steven Seagal, JCVD, Jet Li, Jackie Chan, Scott Adkins, Tony Jaa, and others, all stuntmen, actors, MA practitioners at best, not fighters... Actually there are some recordings of those famous "deadly rooftop-street fights" in China, laughable stuff, all Wing Chun slapping, lol, real fighters... Still i see no BL there, who was born in one of the richest family in Hong Kong... The only competition he ever won was a Cha Cha Cha dancing one... Chuck Norris, Benny The Jet, Mas Oyama and others would have cleaned his clock badly... Still waiting for a single proof for his fighting prowess, come on guys...
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That's the classic hearsay that fuel the myth... Challenged on set and not one single recording of what happened, funny stuff... I also had some "streetfights" when i was in school, does that make me a fighter? Hell no... Don't believe this stuff, he was an actor, not a fighter...
Not hearsay at all.
I was there.
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Chuck was a legit middleweight champ. Incredible record, too, but he mostly fought in point tournaments. Not sure if he ever crossed over into full-contact, if it was even around back then. Wallace was a monster in FC, but no one dominated like Benny the Jet. Urquidez would embarrass pretty much anybody.
I'll ask again, any of you old school Karate fans remember a tourney fighter named Frank Smith? Dude was a legend in the 60s/70s.
It was full contact Point.....keep in mind the poly dipped safety equipment hadn't been invented yet.
6X World Champion.
He didn't take kindly to laundromat disrespect....
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It was full contact Point.....keep in mind the poly dipped safety equipment hadn't been invented yet.
6X World Champion.
He didn't take kindly to laundromat disrespect....
I know, but they still pulled punches, right? No KOs or anything. I've seen his old YouTube comp clips. Mullins had his number, though. A legend, nonetheless.
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this was an interesting man too Ed Parker and his American Kempo System..
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Lee had some very impressive physical attributes but yeah, he was just an actor at the end of the day.
The way I've heard some people go on about him you'd think he was the greatest fighter in history or something. ::)
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He was an actor, philosopher & martial artist. He practised Wing Tsung which was a derivative from Wing Chung, and added anything that worked in real life combat & called it Jeet Kune Do, was it legit? yes it was.. but it was not Sport base, which MMA is. It was self defence system like Krav Maga or Military Combat.
Bruce Lee trained, sparred with Chuck Norris, Dan Inosanto & lots of grandmasters at their discipline.(including wrestling & Judo)
There's a reason why the UFC included him at their latest game, because he visualized MMA before it was established in the US, even thought MMA(Vale tudo) in Brazil already existed long time before Bruce Lee, Bruce was seeing it as a sport & self defence system.
Hell Bruce even admitted that someone that trained Boxing or Wrestling for 1+ plus year could defeat a master at Traditional Martial Arts.
Quote: "Someone with only a year of training in boxing and wrestling could easily defeat a martial artist of twenty years experience."
--Bruce Lee
About Benny Urquidez he got his ass kicked by some small Muay-Thai Boxer..
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About Benny Urquidez he got his ass kicked by some small Muay-Thai Boxer..
I see. I take it back then. A good fighter should never lose, ever. All the greats, undefeated to the end.
I feel stupid now, sorry.
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I see. I take it back then. A good fighter should never lose, ever. All the greats, undefeated to the end.
I feel stupid now, sorry.
No. quite the opposite.. Benny was one of the greatest fighter in history.. despite being unaware on Muay Thai Techniques he was marching foward with great heart. This only opened the eyes of many how effective Muay Thai could be.
Unlike many other Kickboxers, Karate or Fullkontakters at that time, Benny Urquidez was one of the few that tested himself against anyone in Stand-up combat, a Pioneer if one would call him that.
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No. quite the opposite.. Benny was one of the greatest fighter in history.. despite being unaware on Muay Thai Techniques he was marching foward with great heart. This only opened the eyes of many how effective Muay Thai could be.
Unlike many other Kickboxers, Karate or Fullkontakters at that time, Benny Urquidez was one of the few that tested himself against anyone in Stand-up combat, a Pioneer if one would call him that.
Ok. Your original Benny comment didn't imply any of this, though. Thanks for clarifying.
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Ok. Your original Benny comment didn't imply any of this, though. Thanks for clarifying.
sorry that it looked that way at first, but English isn't my first language(3rd language).
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sorry that it looked that way at first, but English isn't my first language(3rd language).
Legend has it, promoters used to give Benny a bonus if he took the fight past the first few rounds. He was the Tyson of FC Karate/Kickboxing, with first-round KOs left and right. That's the myth, anyway.