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HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« on: July 29, 2011, 01:13:00 PM »

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2011, 01:17:03 PM »
TA YOU NO LONGER SUPPORT THE FEDERAL RESERVE?   

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2011, 01:22:59 PM »
What I really want to know is why the "savings" always come over 10 years, but the spending always happens right now.
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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2011, 01:38:51 PM »
NO NO NO!

You have it all wrong!

Math must be abolished. It is unfair, it creates inequalities and it discriminates against minorities and poor people. The destruction of math will herald the end of greed and Wall Street corruption. To save America we must, as a people, stand firm in our unrelenting struggle to destroy math.

Destroying math will solve the debt crisis, the deficit, inflation, starvation and education. Therefore, it must be done.

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2011, 01:41:56 PM »
NO NO NO!

You have it all wrong!

Math must be abolished. It is unfair, it creates inequalities and it discriminates against minorities and poor people. The destruction of math will herald the end of greed and Wall Street corruption. To save America we must, as a people, stand firm in our unrelenting struggle to destroy math.

Destroying math will solve the debt crisis, the deficit, inflation, starvation and education. Therefore, it must be done.
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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2011, 01:46:10 PM »
:-\ 

Are you suggesting that math isn't the sole culprit of inequality in this world?

Can you provide evidence that math is "fair"?

Do you dispute that the current debt crisis as well as the global financial meltdown can be directly linked to math?


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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2011, 02:02:44 PM »
Are you suggesting that math isn't the sole culprit of inequality in this world?

Can you provide evidence that math is "fair"?

Do you dispute that the current debt crisis as well as the global financial meltdown can be directly linked to math?


I think the overproduction of wind chimes in Albuquerque has had quite an effect.  :-\

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2011, 05:18:38 PM »
Wtf kinda speech was that? Is he trying out for a movie role?  ::)

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2011, 05:58:41 PM »
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen...let us all calm down here. A few things need to be made clear

1.)How the U.S. Govt. does its budgeting: It's baseline budgeting, thus you take last years budget and go from there. It grows automatically based on "need", CBO "projections" of GDP, revenue etc, or the simple reason that departments get an ever bigger budget every year. If that money isn't spent they lose it.
---So, with this in mind, you have to realize that all of these "cuts" that D.C. is throwing around aren't "cuts" at all, they are simply reductions in future spending. So 4 trillion over 10 years is really nothing over those 10 years as the budget grows automatically and there is 300+ billion paid debt interest per year as well. That is where they getting their "cuts" to the budget, when in fact nothing is being cut as they are just saying that instead of spending 12 trillion over the next 10 years we will only spend 8. Take into account the tax revenue and growing interest payments, plus how the CBO is always wrong on S.S./Medicare/Medicaid outlays and you see where this is all a fucking joke.
---Rush had a great analogy the other day, it's like a super fat 1000lb  person saying they are going to change their ways so they don't die by only gaining 900lbs in the next 10 years instead of 1000lbs. And he trumpets to the heavens that he has cut deeply into his caloric intake!
---So, when any class-warfare, fearmongering dumbass on MSNBC says the GOP wants to cut some stupid program or whatever by "insert false number here" they are saying that knowing that the programs will still grow and get more and more money....just not as much.

---The budget is around 3.5 trillion right now, so it doesn't mean that it will stay at 3.5 trillion over the next ten years and they will cut from that total over that specific period of time. Ex: 3.5T x 10yr = 35 trillion dollars so logically you would (the stupid public) thinks or is told to think that these "cuts" are coming from the 35trillion. That isn't true, not even close.

It's more like this - Ex:
-2011 3.5T
-2012 3.65T
-2013 3.75T
-2014 3.95
-2015 4.05.................... .Do you get the point now? That's organic growth, the numbers are close, too.

From the CBO

--"Under the President’s budget, debt held by the public
would grow from $10.4 trillion (69 percent of GDP)
at the end of 2011 to $20.8 trillion (87 percent of
GDP) at the end of 2021, about $2.8 trillion more
than the amount under CBO’s baseline projections.
Outlays for net interest would nearly quadruple
between 2012 and 2021 in nominal dollars (without
an adjustment for inflation); they would swell from
1.7 percent of GDP in 2012 to 3.9 percent in 2021"
--

And the total atom bomb.

Actual 2012- 2012-
               2010  2011    2012   2013    2014    2015    2016   2017    2018  2019      2020      2021        2016 -2021
Revenues  2,163  2,230   2,558  3,087   3,440   3,642   3,826   4,071  4,271  4,483   4,703   4,951       16,554 -39,032
Outlays     3,456  3,629   3,639  3,779   3,954  4,180    4,460  4,661   4,856  5,148   5,412   5,680       20,012 -45,770
______ ______ ______ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ______ ______
Total Deficit -1,294 -1,399 -1,081 -692 -513 -538 -635 -590 -585 -665 -710 -729 -3,459 -6,737
Revenues 2,163 2,229 2,544 2,899 3,212 3,442 3,635 3,818 3,994 4,179 4,382 4,597 15,732 36,702
Outlays 3,456 3,655 3,708 3,800 3,976 4,191 4,476 4,687 4,896 5,200 5,483 5,756 20,150 46,172
______ ______ ______ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ______ ______ _____ ______ ______
-1,294 -1,425 -1,164 -901 -764 -748 -841 -870 -902 -1,021 -1,101 -1,158 -4,418 -9,470



http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/121xx/doc12130/04-15-AnalysisPresidentsBudget.pdf

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2011, 06:02:31 PM »
And the above is in TRILLIONS.

Add the budget totals for all 10 years...it comes out to be around 50 trillion. Now subtract 1 trillion from that "over 10 years".

THAT'S THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER.

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2011, 06:05:27 PM »
Rand paul is the only real plan out there.

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2011, 08:31:36 PM »
Again- the problem IS NOT SPENDING.

The problem is MATH.

no more math= no more debt crisis.

Math is inherently unfair and slanted in favor of Whites, Christians and people who aren't poor.

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2011, 09:31:08 PM »
Again- the problem IS NOT SPENDING.

The problem is MATH.

no more math= no more debt crisis.

Math is inherently unfair and slanted in favor of Whites, Christians and people who aren't poor.
What advantage does Christianity have except willfully ignorant stupidity in the face of fact and evidence?  Furthermore, your attempt at humor is a failure.

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2011, 12:02:16 AM »
What advantage does Christianity have except willfully ignorant stupidity in the face of fact and evidence?  Furthermore, your attempt at humor is a failure.
yep...darwin was willfully ignorant...

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2011, 12:37:56 AM »
yep...darwin was willfully ignorant...
Darwin was NOT a Christian.

I hope this helps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2011, 07:32:40 AM »
Darwin was NOT a Christian.

I hope this helps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin
actually he was for the majority of his life...

he was also never an atheist saying that and I quote ""I have never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God. – I think that generally ... an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind." a few years before dying...

he also felt strongly that a man could be a person of faith and still believe in evolution...

Hope this helps ;)













doubt it willl

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2011, 07:36:48 AM »
We need term limits, hard spending caps, treat the pols like crack addicts and put them in detox, and stop the spending and taxing.

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2011, 11:58:44 AM »
actually he was for the majority of his life...

he was also never an atheist saying that and I quote ""I have never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God. – I think that generally ... an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind." a few years before dying...

he also felt strongly that a man could be a person of faith and still believe in evolution...

Hope this helps ;)













doubt it willl
It doesn`t, because you don`t know the first thing about Natural Selection or Charles Darwin.  Everyone has NO CHOICE but to accept Evolution regardless of whatever nonsense they believe as it is a Scientific Fact just like Gravity.  There is no getting around this, so your above statement is rather low-brained.

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2011, 01:44:07 PM »
What sucks is that at the end you can clearly see hardly anyone was there.

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2011, 01:49:11 PM »
It doesn`t, because you don`t know the first thing about Natural Selection or Charles Darwin.  Everyone has NO CHOICE but to accept Evolution regardless of whatever nonsense they believe as it is a Scientific Fact just like Gravity.  There is no getting around this, so your above statement is rather low-brained.
LMFAO seeing as it was a integral part of my minor in anthropology for my BS in psych I guarantee your dumb ass i know much more about it than you do LOL


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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2011, 02:00:06 PM »
LMFAO seeing as it was a integral part of my minor in anthropology for my BS in psych I guarantee your dumb ass i know much more about it than you do LOL




I don't why people have so much difficult admitting when they are wrong and continue to dig the whole they're in.

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2011, 02:22:27 PM »
Math is inherently unfair and slanted in favor of Whites, Christians and people who aren't poor.

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2011, 04:03:33 PM »
TA YOU NO LONGER SUPPORT THE FEDERAL RESERVE?   


The Federal Reserve is a complete joke and we certainly do not have the gold, silver, or platinum available to back up the currency. 
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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2011, 06:35:55 PM »
What advantage does Christianity have except willfully ignorant stupidity in the face of fact and evidence?  Furthermore, your attempt at humor is a failure.

Nothing, except that Christians have unfairly monopolized math to suit their evil purposes. 

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Re: HOW TO Solve the Debt Crisis.
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2011, 07:03:36 PM »
LMFAO seeing as it was a integral part of my minor in anthropology for my BS in psych I guarantee your dumb ass i know much more about it than you do LOL


I am 100 percent certain that you know very little.  You have proven this many times over on this very board.