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Title: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: littleguns on April 03, 2014, 02:55:00 AM
So lets face it, Brock has been booked very prroly towards UT.

Brock who is supposed to be a Monster has shown fear.

Is this WWE's way of having Brock go over?

I personally would be upset if the streak was ended by a part timer instead of passing the torch to an up and comer like one of the shield, Caesaro etc..
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on April 03, 2014, 06:48:24 AM
I think it's a joke to make Lesnar look as if he's afraid. Undertaker looks like a burnt turd in the ring, physically. Lesnar is a world class athlete. In real life he could wipe the floor with Taker.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: goku on April 03, 2014, 06:49:42 AM
prior to the brock angle, i was thinking they would do a taker vs shield angle as he was last seen being taken out by the shield.
ive never been overly convinced by the brock angle, just seems random to me and seems like they were running out of ideas.

no chance a part timer ends the streak as you said.
i would have loved to seen reigns vs taker and lesnar vs cesaro at WM
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: littleguns on April 03, 2014, 08:36:33 AM
For me, Bootista vs Lesnar would be good...
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on April 03, 2014, 08:41:00 AM
For me, Bootista vs Lesnar would be good...

Seriously? Batista sucks ass. He looks old and broken down too. He's no spring chicken himself. I like how he tried to get some cheap pops wearing his Georgetown jersey when Raw came to DC. He still got jeered. He's horrible.

I flick on Raw occassionally out of sheer boredom and always hoping the product will improve. But I get let down every time.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: TheGrinch on April 03, 2014, 10:18:06 AM
I would rather see Goldberg come back and take Brock down!!


theme music plays out of nowhere... AND

gooollllldbeerg... gooolllllberg...
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: MCWAY on April 03, 2014, 11:03:37 AM
I would rather see Goldberg come back and take Brock down!!


theme music plays out of nowhere... AND

gooollllldbeerg... gooolllllberg...

We saw that crap 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Montague on April 03, 2014, 12:03:43 PM
We saw that crap 10 years ago.


Yes, and ten years ago the shows were far better, which is precisely why The Grinch and most fans would rather see that "crap" than the lame product we've currently got.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: MCWAY on April 03, 2014, 12:28:58 PM

Yes, and ten years ago the shows were far better, which is precisely why The Grinch and most fans would rather see that "crap" than the lame product we've currently got.

I'm talking specifically Goldberg vs.Lesnar at Wrestlemania.

That match was garbage; I know why, to some degree. But still.....

Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Playboy on April 03, 2014, 01:01:58 PM
With the exception being Lesnar, the rest need to retired. Watching a 50 year old Undertaker with a very predictable streak has now gotten ridiculously boring. HHH and Batista need to stay retired. They all suck now as age has caught up with them.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on April 03, 2014, 01:13:34 PM
With the exception being Lesnar, the rest need to retired. Watching a 50 year old Undertaker with a very predictable streak has now gotten ridiculously boring. HHH and Batista need to stay retired. They all suck now as age has caught up with them.

HHH looks as if he's hitting the sauce again. Being a less than part time wrestler allows his body to rest up and train much harder. But he's very injury prone in the lower body. All it takes is one bad misstep and he's blown a knee or a quad again.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Montague on April 03, 2014, 02:09:22 PM
HHH looks as if he's hitting the sauce again. Being a less than part time wrestler allows his body to rest up and train much harder. But he's very injury prone in the lower body. All it takes is one bad misstep and he's blown a knee or a quad again.


But that's good for business because WWE will get to make another DVD about it!

I think they may be running out of ideas to repackage another HBK anthology. 
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Playboy on April 03, 2014, 06:17:18 PM
HHH looks as if he's hitting the sauce again. Being a less than part time wrestler allows his body to rest up and train much harder. But he's very injury prone in the lower body. All it takes is one bad misstep and he's blown a knee or a quad again.
HHH is also much much older and u can see the after effects of the hgh use over the years. Hes starting to get the classic hgh gut.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: TheGrinch on April 03, 2014, 08:28:40 PM

Yes, and ten years ago the shows were far better, which is precisely why The Grinch and most fans would rather see that "crap" than the lame product we've currently got.

heck right now I would rather watch a match between Al Snow and Val Venus than this crap they put on a card now
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Melkor on April 04, 2014, 05:12:37 PM
After Raw this past Monday, Taker is surely the favourite again now. It would be a brutal idea to have Lesnar break the streak - win, lose or draw he is as over as he needs to be. IF the streak is ever to be broken, it should be by somebody who is being primed for a major push.

Personally, I hope Taker retires with a perfect record but something tells me he will lose his last Mania match (hopefully not against Cena)
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Playboy on April 04, 2014, 05:58:21 PM
After Raw this past Monday, Taker is surely the favourite again now. It would be a brutal idea to have Lesnar break the streak - win, lose or draw he is as over as he needs to be. IF the streak is ever to be broken, it should be by somebody who is being primed for a major push.

Personally, I hope Taker retires with a perfect record but something tells me he will lose his last Mania match (hopefully not against Cena)
The streak will never be broken. It defeats the purpose. Why have the guy go 21-0 only to lose one time. Makes no sense.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Montague on April 04, 2014, 06:00:01 PM
Taker's streak will end however he wishes it to.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Playboy on April 04, 2014, 06:02:40 PM
Taker's streak will end however he wishes it to.
Maybe I'll challenge the streak next year. Fuck Sting   ;D
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Montague on April 04, 2014, 06:03:52 PM
Maybe I'll challenge the streak next year. Fuck Sting   ;D


I'd buy a ticket to see that one!
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Montague on April 04, 2014, 06:04:46 PM

I'd buy a ticket to see that one!


God bless Gorilla Monsoon.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Playboy on April 04, 2014, 06:06:55 PM

I'd buy a ticket to see that one!
I'd probably perform better than 95% of the roster blindfolded with the flu and both hands tied behind my back.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Montague on April 04, 2014, 06:09:03 PM
I'd probably perform better than 95% of the roster blindfolded with the flu and both hands tied behind my back.


Seemingly, anyone who simply watched wrestling prior to 2005 could. I knew a lot about how to work before I ever stopped foot in a ring!
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Playboy on April 04, 2014, 06:16:30 PM

Seemingly, anyone who simply watched wrestling prior to 2005 could. I knew a lot about how to work before I ever stopped foot in a ring!
From what I hear  from a few guys I knew hear that did the indies they all claimed that taking body slams were bad. They really rock you in certain parts of the ring. Although I imagine a WWE ring would be much higher in quality.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Montague on April 04, 2014, 06:22:57 PM
From what I hear  from a few guys I knew hear that did the indies they all claimed that taking body slams were bad. They really rock you in certain parts of the ring. Although I imagine a WWE ring would be much higher in quality.


A lot depends on which part of the ring you're slammed on. The center is typically the "softest."
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: gmflex on April 05, 2014, 05:36:19 AM
Taker looks very old..
Wonder how long the old man wants to continue the streak and still make it
Believable  :-\
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: littleguns on April 05, 2014, 07:41:10 AM
After Raw this past Monday, Taker is surely the favourite again now. It would be a brutal idea to have Lesnar break the streak - win, lose or draw he is as over as he needs to be. IF the streak is ever to be broken, it should be by somebody who is being primed for a major push.

Personally, I hope Taker retires with a perfect record but something tells me he will lose his last Mania match (hopefully not against Cena)

If he loses it will have to be an up and comer to give the "rub", having Cena win would do nothing to elevate him any further and would probably push him to the heel side/more despised.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Karl Kox on April 05, 2014, 03:47:31 PM
It only makes sense for Lesnar to show fear, however I don't like it either.

Taker is looking old but to anyone who thinks Brock is breaking the streak, it ain't happening.
Monday Night Raw proved the when Lesnar went over on Taker this past week.
Title: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: MCWAY on April 06, 2014, 07:02:59 PM
The one thing he had over Austin, Rock, Hogan, etc was the streak at 'Mania. Now, it's gone!!!

I can see if it had been Michaels, or Helmsley, even Punk....but LESNAR???

Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: billytwolips on April 06, 2014, 07:04:50 PM
It only makes sense for Lesnar to show fear, however I don't like it either.

Taker is looking old but to anyone who thinks Brock is breaking the streak, it ain't happening.
Monday Night Raw proved the when Lesnar went over on Taker this past week.


It just happened... What. The. Fuck?
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: Karl Kox on April 06, 2014, 07:06:11 PM
Wow.


This is the only post you'll see of mine that's not green.
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: gmflex on April 06, 2014, 07:07:03 PM
Yep.. no sting build up...
Lesnar not the best choice..
Should of been a wrestler who will be a long-term investment..
Lesnar is a not even a part-time wrestler  :-\
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Montague on April 06, 2014, 07:08:14 PM
Wrestling officially died tonight!

 ;D
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: MCWAY on April 06, 2014, 07:09:41 PM
Wrestling officially died tonight!

 ;D

Even Cena beating 'Taker would have been more plausible than this. They couldn't let 'Taker win the way Cena did at Extreme Rules two years ago.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: gmflex on April 06, 2014, 07:10:19 PM
Wonder what the old man was thinking ???
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: Montague on April 06, 2014, 07:10:27 PM
Wow.


This is the only post you'll see of mine that's not green.


HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!!!!!!
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Montague on April 06, 2014, 07:15:50 PM
Oh...the iwc will be buzzing tomorrow with 20,000 word dissertations on why this is so wrong and bad.

I've got to believe this was Taker's choice. Vince okayed it. I'm not sure what it was supposed to accomplish, but they did it.
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: MCWAY on April 06, 2014, 07:20:55 PM
If either Orton retains or Batista wins the WWE World title, we may actually see a riot at the SuperDome, after THIS MESS!!
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: TheGrinch on April 06, 2014, 07:21:40 PM
Wrestling officially died tonight!

 ;D


QFT


RIP
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: gmflex on April 06, 2014, 07:25:10 PM
 :-\
Sad but true
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: MCWAY on April 06, 2014, 08:00:54 PM
Now there's nothing sacred. First we have a MITB winner fail to win a title. But that pales in comparison to this. Why couldn't they just have 'Taker barely win this one? Even if Lesnar dismembered him afterwards, the streak is the only thing 'Taker had that was as valuable as a long title reign (or multiple title reigns) that the other guys had.

THIS SUCKS!!
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 06, 2014, 08:21:57 PM
Not to say "I told ya so," but...

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=520112.0

Karl pretty much called it, as well. Undertaker is an Old School guy. This was probably his last match. In a podcast, shortly before he passed, Paul Bearer mentioned that Taker's body was wrecked form all the pounding and wouldn't wrestle for much longer.
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: MCWAY on April 06, 2014, 08:46:05 PM
Not to say "I told ya so," but...

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=520112.0

Karl pretty much called it, as well. Undertaker is an Old School guy. This was probably his last match. In a podcast, shortly before he passed, Paul Bearer mentioned that Taker's body was wrecked form all the pounding and wouldn't wrestle for much longer.

I knew 'Taker was on his last leg. But, he could have passed the torch by having Lesnar destroy him after losing this match. Austin got over at WM13, despite losing to Bret Hart.

As I said, the one thing 'Taker had over Hogan, Warrior, Rock, Austin, Cena, Michales, Hart, et. al. was the streak. Taker putall those guys over and made them. The Streak was sacred. And, if 'Taker was going to pass the torch to somebody by losing at WrestleMania, it could have been to a true hand like Punk, Cena, even Helmsley. But a part-timer like LESNAR? Good GRIEF!!!
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: leonp1981 on April 06, 2014, 08:55:50 PM
Absolute bullshit, Lesnar didn't deserve this in the slightest, I can't believe they let part-time Brock take the streak.  Up until then it had been a solid WM as well, but this killed the whole show for me.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: leonp1981 on April 06, 2014, 08:59:36 PM
I've got to believe this was Taker's choice. Vince okayed it.

I sincerely hope so, otherwise this was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen from them.  What reason is there to give it to Brock?  Just to shock the audience?  To get it trending on frigging Twatter?  It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this was done to spike the social media ratings and get people to buy the Network so that they can watch the fallout tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: TheGrinch on April 06, 2014, 09:09:45 PM
maybe this (in the mind of vince) makes Brock the most evil heel of all time....???

now they build on this since they need heels?
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: Karl Kox on April 06, 2014, 09:24:01 PM
Guys You always go out on your back. Taker is very old school. I would expect him to come out on Raw tomorrow night and give a speech.
Just think now there will be interviews and DVDs with him which we have never gotten before.
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Karl Kox on April 06, 2014, 09:25:26 PM
Oh...the iwc will be buzzing tomorrow with 20,000 word dissertations on why this is so wrong and bad.

I've got to believe this was Taker's choice. Vince okayed it. I'm not sure what it was supposed to accomplish, but they did it.


Just Takers way of sticking to tradition.
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: MCWAY on April 06, 2014, 09:32:13 PM
Guys You always go out on your back. Taker is very old school. I would expect him to come out on Raw tomorrow night and give a speech.
Just think now there will be interviews and DVDs with him which we have never gotten before.

PLEASE!!

As I said, at least they could have let 'Taker lose to a true hand. The fact that he jobbed to Lesnar, who'll probably leave in six months and may not wrestle on TV for another month is disgusting.

They let Edge retire as World champion, for goodness sake (injury notwithstanding).
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: TheGrinch on April 06, 2014, 09:43:09 PM
see this is the EXACT freakin problem with wrestling today..


someone here on getbig even knew what would be better.....


does one last famous entrance...he raises his hand after giving Brock one last tombstone piledriver ..taker wins stands in the middle of the ring.. cut to close up of his eyes rolling in the back of his head..... , the lights go out one last time and he disappears forever...
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: MCWAY on April 06, 2014, 09:56:03 PM
maybe this (in the mind of vince) makes Brock the most evil heel of all time....???

now they build on this since they need heels?

Having Lesnar destroy 'Taker after WrestleMania would have done much the same thing. Heck, they got Austin over Bret Hart without Austin EVER beating Hart by pin or submission.
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: Playboy on April 07, 2014, 02:17:51 AM
Not to say "I told ya so," but...

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=520112.0

Karl pretty much called it, as well. Undertaker is an Old School guy. This was probably his last match. In a podcast, shortly before he passed, Paul Bearer mentioned that Taker's body was wrecked form all the pounding and wouldn't wrestle for much longer.
Not sure if its real or kayfabe but but apparently Taker was hospitalized with a bad concussion after the match. I never thought id see the streak end but because it did I believe Brock will be around a lot longer than people think. Taker:
Two hip replacements
Shoulder surgeries
Knee surgeries
two previous torn biceps.

Hes 50 years old give or take. Hes done.
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: Montague on April 07, 2014, 02:56:29 AM
Guys You always go out on your back. Taker is very old school. I would expect him to come out on Raw tomorrow night and give a speech.
Just think now there will be interviews and DVDs with him which we have never gotten before.


I hope he goes that route. It would provide something fresh and original for fans as opposed to a fifth Shawn Michaels Anthology DVD. I can see Taker doing it because, while a traditionalist, it's easy to see how many old-school greats have spoken out of character in doing post-retirement projects such as shoot interviews and autobiographies. Taker could easily make a fortune from it, as well as the Fed.
Title: Re: THIS IS LAME!!! LESNAR BREAKS THE STREAK!!!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 07, 2014, 05:13:57 AM
Not sure if its real or kayfabe but but apparently Taker was hospitalized with a bad concussion after the match. I never thought id see the streak end but because it did I believe Brock will be around a lot longer than people think. Taker:
Two hip replacements
Shoulder surgeries
Knee surgeries
two previous torn biceps.

Hes 50 years old give or take. Hes done.


I knew he had the hip issue, but I didn't realize he had that many surgeries. All that rehab gets tiring after awhile no matter how tough you are.

It comes down to what Karl said about going out on your back. It's what's "Best for business."

A Brock vs Bryan Summerslam seems like a bigger draw, now, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: gmflex on April 07, 2014, 06:16:45 AM
Great points..
I think taker couldn't do it anymore. that's why he lost to make Brock look as the man that broke the streak..
Sting vs. Brock at wrestlemania..
Sting going over Brock..
I bet they signed sting 2 years...
Sting HOF  2016
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: tu_holmes on April 07, 2014, 06:17:11 AM
Stupid.
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: gmflex on April 07, 2014, 06:19:29 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: tu_holmes on April 07, 2014, 06:23:50 AM
Not your statement. Brock beating taker is stupid.

I have no opinion on your theory.
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: Playboy on April 07, 2014, 07:23:15 AM
Plus Undertaker suffered a legit back injury and a concussion early in that match. Hes old and done and looking at the big picture its whats best for the business.
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: gmflex on April 07, 2014, 08:13:40 AM
Not your statement. Brock beating taker is stupid.

I have no opinion on your theory.

What are your thoughts on what is next for Brock or taker?
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 07, 2014, 08:28:36 AM
Orton figures to claim foul because he never got pinned. Could be Orton/Lesnar which sets up Bryan/Lesnar.

Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: tu_holmes on April 07, 2014, 08:54:07 AM
What are your thoughts on what is next for Brock or taker?

Taker done... Lesnar sucks as usual.

I would not have had an issue with it happening to someone who was legitimately best for the WWE, but we've all seen Lesnar come and go a few times, so I don't like the idea that he's the one to break it.

And as I said in another thread... I'm not an Undertaker fan.
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: littleguns on April 07, 2014, 09:14:24 AM
I am still in shock over this. But now will UT show up tomorrow announcing retirement?

Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 07, 2014, 09:21:23 AM
I think Brock will be around for a while.

He said the reason he left, the first time, was because "The devil was always knocking on his door."

Things are different, now. It's not a bunch of guys in a car. The top guys travel rockstar style in their own tour buses.

Plus, when his WWE contract ends, he'll be 37. That's prime for a pro wrestler but old for an MMA fighter, especially one coming off a long layoff and who didn't have top tier MMA skills to begin with. Moreover, I don't see a Hollywood career in his future.

IMO, WWE is his best bet.
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on April 07, 2014, 09:32:18 AM
I think Brock will be around for a while.

He said the reason he left, the first time, was because "The devil was always knocking on his door."

Things are different, now. It's not a bunch of guys in a car. The top guys travel rockstar style in their own tour buses.

Plus, when his WWE contract ends, he'll be 37. That's prime for a pro wrestler but old for an MMA fighter, especially one coming off a long layoff and who didn't have top tier MMA skills to begin with. Moreover, I don't see a Hollywood career in his future.

IMO, WWE is his best bet.

Lesnar was born in 1977. He'll be 37 in July. So does that mean that his contract is up this year? If that's that's the case and he decides not to renew, that makes his win over Taker as a part-time wrestler a bigger joke than ever.

I guarantee that Taker announces his retirement very soon. He looks like shit, physically. Sadly, I'm not sure Mark Callaway lives past his 60's.
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: Montague on April 07, 2014, 09:48:12 AM
I think Brock will be around for a while.

He said the reason he left, the first time, was because "The devil was always knocking on his door."

Things are different, now. It's not a bunch of guys in a car. The top guys travel rockstar style in their own tour buses.

Plus, when his WWE contract ends, he'll be 37. That's prime for a pro wrestler but old for an MMA fighter, especially one coming off a long layoff and who didn't have top tier MMA skills to begin with. Moreover, I don't see a Hollywood career in his future.

IMO, WWE is his best bet.


Concur.
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: tu_holmes on April 07, 2014, 09:58:36 AM
Lesnar was making a MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR when he left.

A MILLION.

1, and 6 zeros then a period and another 2 zeros.

He had a private jet THEN.

You can't possibly tell me that he didn't have incentive to stay then.
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: Montague on April 07, 2014, 10:33:07 AM
Lesnar was making a MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR when he left.

A MILLION.

1, and 6 zeros then a period and another 2 zeros.

He had a private jet THEN.

You can't possibly tell me that he didn't have incentive to stay then.


I don't know that his ego could ever get over the fact that, despite all the fame and wealth, it's still a "fake sport." I'd heard that quite a few legit fighters/wrestlers/athletes had some difficulty adapting to theatrical wrestling around the 2000 timeframe, and I believe Brock was one of them.

For the amount of work and wear on his body, UFC was more lucrative. Plus, he was now a "legitimate" athlete once again.
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 07, 2014, 10:45:52 AM
Stock market certainly didn't like it.

The market as a whole has been tanking, recently, but a 20% drop in a day is something else.

Could be the buy rates didn't live up to expectations.

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/DE6F3409-4CEA-4234-A666-5779594312B1-1236-000001CA29C2A297_zpsc3fdd575.jpg)
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: tu_holmes on April 07, 2014, 10:47:38 AM

I don't know that his ego could ever get over the fact that, despite all the fame and wealth, it's still a "fake sport." I'd heard that quite a few legit fighters/wrestlers/athletes had some difficulty adapting to theatrical wrestling around the 2000 timeframe, and I believe Brock was one of them.

For the amount of work and wear on his body, UFC was more lucrative. Plus, he was now a "legitimate" athlete once again.

And got his face pummeled for it.

Not to mention he had that Intestinal stuff... Fuck all that. (Sure they are probably not related, but still... it happened)
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: Montague on April 07, 2014, 10:48:55 AM
Stock certainly didn't like it.

The market as a whole has been tanking, recently, but a 20% drop in a day is something else.

Could be the buy rates didn't live up to expectations.

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/DE6F3409-4CEA-4234-A666-5779594312B1-1236-000001CA29C2A297_zpsc3fdd575.jpg)



Wow, maybe the revenue brought in by the network hasn't offset the drop in PPV buy rates we know will accompany it.
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 07, 2014, 10:50:37 AM
Didn't he also try out for the NFL?

These avenues are no longer options. Vince's money is looking pretty good right now.
Title: Re: Taker vs. Lesnar (threads merged):
Post by: Montague on April 07, 2014, 10:50:42 AM
And got his face pummeled for it.

Not to mention he had that Intestinal stuff... Fuck all that. (Sure they are probably not related, but still... it happened)


He had a strong start in MMA, but the last few years haven't gone so well for him, which may explain his decision to return to make believe wrestling.
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Post by: Montague on April 07, 2014, 10:51:49 AM
Didn't he also try out for the NFL?

These avenues are no longer options. Vince's money is looking pretty good right now.


Yes, and that is why I agree with your post above. WWE is very likely his best option at this point.
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Post by: Nirvana on April 07, 2014, 11:24:47 AM
Taker simply botched the kickout.
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 07, 2014, 11:33:26 AM

Wow, maybe the revenue brought in by the network hasn't offset the drop in PPV buy rates we know will accompany it.

Almost certainly the case. Plus, companies tend to lowball their projections. So, they can then surpass them.

Vince projected a million subscribers by the end of the year, but he really might have wanted that million by now. So far, they're at 667k. With Mania done, is there really a lot of meat on the bone, in the form of new subscribers? And how many people will drop it after the first year?

Stay tuned.
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Post by: Dago_Joe on April 07, 2014, 11:39:27 AM

Seemingly, anyone who simply watched wrestling prior to 2005 could. I knew a lot about how to work before I ever stopped foot in a ring!
Yeah, imagine that - actually LEARNING about the biz before you jump into and expect to be Hogan.   I saw an interview with Nash where he said the last time he was in the locker room with the boys in wWE, they were all playing video games and no one was in gorilla position or bothering to even watch or learn anything.  The attitude at the fed seems to be that there is no respect for what truly made wrestling great and it reflects in the personnel and product. 
Title: Re: Lesnar vs Taker - swerve?
Post by: Montague on April 07, 2014, 12:23:03 PM
Yeah, imagine that - actually LEARNING about the biz before you jump into and expect to be Hogan.   I saw an interview with Nash where he said the last time he was in the locker room with the boys in wWE, they were all playing video games and no one was in gorilla position or bothering to even watch or learn anything.  The attitude at the fed seems to be that there is no respect for what truly made wrestling great and it reflects in the personnel and product.  


Damn, that's sad, bro.

I remember being backstage at one of our Indy shows in 2002. I think Punk was working with Styles. Literally, EVERYBODY rushed to crowd around the tiny black & white monitor. You could hear comments like, "time to go to school!" Those guys were probably more passionate about the business than 75% of the current WWE roster.

I remember one kid; his life's goal was to go not to the Fed, but to ROH. You knew he wasn't in it for the money. He was in it for the love and to perform with the best.
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Post by: Montague on April 07, 2014, 12:26:24 PM
Almost certainly the case. Plus, companies tend to lowball their projections. So, they can then surpass them.

Vince projected a million subscribers by the end of the year, but he really might have wanted that million by now. So far, they're at 667k. With Mania done, is there really a lot of meat on the bone, in the form of new subscribers? And how many people will drop it after the first year?

Stay tuned.



My buddy told me the rate is supposed to climb to $15/month next year, which my prompt those who are on the fence right now to take advantage. At the current bargain price of $10/month, they're probably hoping most people can justify keeping it despite diminishing interest/use.
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 07, 2014, 12:47:13 PM
IMO, they're gonna need more original content than what they're currently providing. 12 PPVs + the library isn't enough. Whether they produce the content themselves or pay someone else, it's gonna cost money and will eat into the profits.

The Network is a timely idea but it's not a license to print money as much as a replacement for a dying PPV model.

This is what Wall St. missed when driving up the stock price. Of course, I'm one of the few people who is both a finance and wrestling geek. ;D
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Post by: gmflex on April 07, 2014, 01:36:08 PM
I loved the network for the classic WCW material...
But I agree there going to need more original content..
In order for people to sign up or keep buying it..
They should show some of the WWE produced movies..
No holds barred  :D
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Post by: littleguns on April 07, 2014, 03:45:54 PM

My buddy told me the rate is supposed to climb to $15/month next year, which my prompt those who are on the fence right now to take advantage. At the current bargain price of $10/month, they're probably hoping most people can justify keeping it despite diminishing interest/use.

It was announced they currently have 678K subscribers = $6 mil a month....that is some crazy loot.
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2014, 03:58:16 PM
I am not an Undertaker fan by any means.  The highlight of the match for me was Lesnar shutting down that stupid Old School move that did absolutely nothing but the opponent had to sell it like a chair shot.   ::)

It makes sense to give the win to Brock.  You can't call him a part time wrestler when UT only wrestled once a year.  That is why they gave it to Brock.  He will only wrestle once or twice... just like UT did.  Make him into the Wrestlemania Legend that remains unbeaten.  (Don't know his prior WM track record and won't look it up)  They had to pass the torch to someone and having someone who is going to wrestle and job at point during the year will not make sense and make them seem so dominant on the day of WM.

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Post by: gmflex on April 07, 2014, 04:42:59 PM
I am not an Undertaker fan by any means.  The highlight of the match for me was Lesnar shutting down that stupid Old School move that did absolutely nothing but the opponent had to sell it like a chair shot.   ::)

It makes sense to give the win to Brock.  You can't call him a part time wrestler when UT only wrestled once a year.  That is why they gave it to Brock.  He will only wrestle once or twice... just like UT did.  Make him into the Wrestlemania Legend that remains unbeaten.  (Don't know his prior WM track record and won't look it up)  They had to pass the torch to someone and having someone who is going to wrestle and job at point during the year will not make sense and make them seem so dominant on the day of WM.




Solid post sir
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Post by: Montague on April 07, 2014, 04:43:34 PM
It was announced they currently have 678K subscribers = $6 mil a month....that is some crazy loot.


The old man's still got it!
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Post by: Karl Kox on April 07, 2014, 10:26:41 PM
Taker simply botched the kickout.

This couldn't be farther from the truth.  You think they would have had the graphic of 21-1 up if that was the case. Taker losing the match was a very kayfabed deal. Only a handful knew about it.
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Post by: Nirvana on April 07, 2014, 10:41:59 PM
This couldn't be farther from the truth.  You think they would have had the graphic of 21-1 up if that was the case. Taker losing the match was a very kayfabed deal. Only a handful knew about it.
as if the ref really would have counted to three if taker had botched a kickout  ::)
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Post by: gmflex on April 08, 2014, 06:07:02 AM
It looks like  taker did what was best for the business...
Paul Heyman did a great Job of selling Brock Lesnar last night on raw
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Post by: Playboy on April 08, 2014, 06:52:41 AM
Apparently Undertaker took a bad bump early in the match resulting in a serious concussion and neck/back injury.  He collapsed backstage and was rushed to emergency.  Vince himseld along with Lesner and Heyman road with him to the hospital.  Thats respect. Vince left the show of the year to sit by Takers side.
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Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on April 08, 2014, 07:22:33 AM
Apparently Undertaker took a bad bump early in the match resulting in a serious concussion and neck/back injury.  He collapsed backstage and was rushed to emergency.  Vince himseld along with Lesner and Heyman road with him to the hospital.  Thats respect. Vince left the show of the year to sit by Takers side.

I'm curious to know which bump or spot during the match caused the concussion and back injury. He took a long time to make his way backstage from the ring but I thought he was just selling his defeat and soaking in the applause.
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Post by: littleguns on April 08, 2014, 07:35:10 AM
I'm curious to know which bump or spot during the match caused the concussion and back injury. He took a long time to make his way backstage from the ring but I thought he was just selling his defeat and soaking in the applause.

Supposedly it was a leg drop. The question is will UT break kayfabe and announce his retirement if this is the case. As someone else said, when they decide to do a DVD on him, have Mark Calloway break character and talk about his life, struggles etc..

Next step - Brock vs Daniel B - David vs Goliath
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Post by: MCWAY on April 08, 2014, 07:40:03 AM
I am not an Undertaker fan by any means.  The highlight of the match for me was Lesnar shutting down that stupid Old School move that did absolutely nothing but the opponent had to sell it like a chair shot.   ::)

It makes sense to give the win to Brock.  You can't call him a part time wrestler when UT only wrestled once a year.  That is why they gave it to Brock.  He will only wrestle once or twice... just like UT did.  Make him into the Wrestlemania Legend that remains unbeaten.  (Don't know his prior WM track record and won't look it up)  

You must have a short memory. Triple H beat him last year (and Goldberg beat him, in that garbage match, 10 years ago).




They had to pass the torch to someone and having someone who is going to wrestle and job at point during the year will not make sense and make them seem so dominant on the day of WM.



'Taker is part time, due to his injuries. He's paid his dues in the ring, which is why I wish he stayed undefeated at WrestleMania. It's the only thing that separates him from the other guys, given their longer/more frequent title reigns and being given the proverbial keys to the kingdom or the ball.

Come on! Punk gets a 14-month title reign but 'Taker doesn't? That's ridiculous.

The ending they did for WM27 should have been duplicated at 30: Have Lesnar beat Undertaker silly for 90% of the match, only to have the Deadman pull some rabbit out of his hat (a new submission move or even a cheap roll-up). 'Taker gets the win but is busted up and carted out on a stretcher or in an ambulance.

As I said earlier, Austin got over Bret Hart, without ever pinning the Hitman or getting him to submit. He LOST at WM13 but got launched big time.

Lesnar gets over as a monster; 'Taker retires with streak intact; all is right with the world.
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Post by: Melkor on April 08, 2014, 02:51:49 PM
Just had a chance to watch Mania today and even though I am a big Taker fan and wanted to see the streak remain intact, it is better that it has finally ended. He looked way past it, definitely not capable of another big match next year. You would have to believe that this will be his last match. Going out with the defeat is the way the greats have done it at Mania - Austin, Michaels, Flair (although he keeps coming back) and Taker was keeping up that tradition.

I'm not sure if Lesnar was the right guy though, simply because he is already over no matter what. Beating Taker would've been the ultimate way to get somebody over who WWE are trying to push (timing was not right for Bray Wyatt or Cesaro but these are the types of wrestlers I mean).
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Post by: Montague on April 08, 2014, 03:04:11 PM
Just had a chance to watch Mania today and even though I am a big Taker fan and wanted to see the streak remain intact, it is better that it has finally ended. He looked way past it, definitely not capable of another big match next year. You would have to believe that this will be his last match. Going out with the defeat is the way the greats have done it at Mania - Austin, Michaels, Flair (although he keeps coming back) and Taker was keeping up that tradition.

I'm not sure if Lesnar was the right guy though, simply because he is already over no matter what. Beating Taker would've been the ultimate way to get somebody over who WWE are trying to push (timing was not right for Bray Wyatt or Cesaro but these are the types of wrestlers I mean).


I see the point in your last paragraph, but I'm not sure Taker could last much longer. I would hope they'd been discussing with Brock his long term plans with the Fed prior to Mania. I understand that his last couple of UFC showings were less than stellar, and - at his age - make believe fighting may be his best bet.
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Post by: MCWAY on April 08, 2014, 03:17:04 PM
Just had a chance to watch Mania today and even though I am a big Taker fan and wanted to see the streak remain intact, it is better that it has finally ended. He looked way past it, definitely not capable of another big match next year. You would have to believe that this will be his last match. Going out with the defeat is the way the greats have done it at Mania - Austin, Michaels, Flair (although he keeps coming back) and Taker was keeping up that tradition.

I'm not sure if Lesnar was the right guy though, simply because he is already over no matter what. Beating Taker would've been the ultimate way to get somebody over who WWE are trying to push (timing was not right for Bray Wyatt or Cesaro but these are the types of wrestlers I mean).

And that's why I said that they should have put Brock over WM27-style by having him pound 'Taker into oblivion yet having the Deadman roll him up or catch him in a new submission move for the win.

I could have seen Lesnar going for that 3rd F-5, only to have 'Taker slide out of it, inside-cradle Lesnar for the 1-2-3. Lesnar then goes nuts and completely gets medieval on 'Taker, breaks his arms, legs, whatever.

He'd be the guy that destroyed the Undertaker......but 'Taker would still be undefeated at WrestleMania.

I know this was the Deadman's call (in part, if not wholecloth); but if I'm part of the WWE brass, I politick with 'Taker and plead with him (as a "Thank you" for all he's done for the company) to let the streak stay intact.
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Post by: Playboy on April 08, 2014, 05:47:31 PM
From what I "know" the undertaker wanted to wrestle brock two years ago and lose the streak back then (same year undertaker was at brocks last UFC fight) but negotiations with brock held it up.
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Post by: Montague on April 08, 2014, 05:50:53 PM
From what I "know" the undertaker wanted to wrestle brock two years ago and lose the streak back then (same year undertaker was at brocks last UFC fight) but negotiations with brock held it up.


I remember them beginning to build that. Taker showed up at one of Brock's matches. I didn't realize it had been that long ago already.
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Post by: Playboy on April 08, 2014, 06:04:50 PM

I remember them beginning to build that. Taker showed up at one of Brock's matches. I didn't realize it had been that long ago already.
Yup...time flies
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Post by: Montague on April 08, 2014, 06:07:09 PM
Yup...time flies


Damn...
My b-day several weeks ago didn't make me feel as old as this one post!
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Post by: Playboy on April 08, 2014, 06:08:18 PM

Damn...
My b-day several weeks ago didn't make me feel as old as this one post!
oh shit...happy belated!!
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Post by: Montague on April 08, 2014, 06:09:56 PM
oh shit...happy belated!!


Belated gracias!!
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Post by: Melkor on April 09, 2014, 08:45:33 AM

I remember them beginning to build that. Taker showed up at one of Brock's matches. I didn't realize it had been that long ago already.

Yeah but look how much Taker has aged since then. Since his match at WM 27 he has really started to decline physically. In hindsight, he might have been better finishing up after beating HHH in the Hell in a Cell. Retire with a perfect 20 wins, with the send off with HHH and HBK at the end.

OR put Punk over last year. He was coming off two defeats to Rock and he has never recovered since losing those 3 matches in a row. It cemented the idea that WWE will never see him as a "top guy". A win over Taker then would have pushed him to the next level.

Also, where are Punk and Sting?! I was expecting to see at least one of them at Mania or Raw this week...
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Post by: gmflex on April 09, 2014, 12:10:19 PM
http://instagram.com/p/mgReBFnj5D (http://instagram.com/p/mgReBFnj5D)


Taker limping as he is leaving hotel..



Stone cold will be doing an interview with taker in 2 weeks in Austin texas
Where taker lives.. Stone cold said he spoke to him before the match.. taker agreed
To be interviewed by Austin..

Should be a great podcast  :o
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 09, 2014, 01:41:39 PM
Ok, basically the Streak had to end.  Why?  Because if you retired UT while undefeated, then you retired a WM gimmick/attraction that had more drawing power than most of it's main events at times.  So there has to be someone to carry on the tradition in some form or another.  Brock could be billed as the Baddest Man On The Planet now and everyone jockeys for a shot each year to knock him off the hill.

But it had to be Brock that gained this spot.  There was no one else they could give it to.  Punk?  Not with his unreliability of walking out and his independent streak over what is right/wrong for his fellow workers.  Michaels, HHH, etc... they couldn't have done it because they were already at the end of their careers and nagged by injuries.  You couldn't give it to John Cena because how can you believe he is such a bad ass when he gets beat by Bray Watt or whoever on public tv a week or so before the PPVs?    Brock has limited appearances and this only builds into his brand and merchandising point.  Wrestle once or twice a year and only the top challenger that is getting the current push at the time. 
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Post by: gmflex on April 09, 2014, 03:52:35 PM
I think it was takers time to lose at wrestlemania..
It was a great swerve...
2nd of the night..
First Cesario winning the battle royal...
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 09, 2014, 04:19:08 PM
http://instagram.com/p/mgReBFnj5D (http://instagram.com/p/mgReBFnj5D)


Taker limping as he is leaving hotel..



Stone cold will be doing an interview with taker in 2 weeks in Austin texas
Where taker lives.. Stone cold said he spoke to him before the match.. taker agreed
To be interviewed by Austin..

Should be a great podcast  :o

That's a must listen.

Jim Ross' Podcast interview this week is Jake Roberts. Definitely listening to that one when I get the time.
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Post by: Playboy on April 09, 2014, 05:22:46 PM
Ok, basically the Streak had to end.  Why?  Because if you retired UT while undefeated, then you retired a WM gimmick/attraction that had more drawing power than most of it's main events at times.  So there has to be someone to carry on the tradition in some form or another.  Brock could be billed as the Baddest Man On The Planet now and everyone jockeys for a shot each year to knock him off the hill.

But it had to be Brock that gained this spot.  There was no one else they could give it to.  Punk?  Not with his unreliability of walking out and his independent streak over what is right/wrong for his fellow workers.  Michaels, HHH, etc... they couldn't have done it because they were already at the end of their careers and nagged by injuries.  You couldn't give it to John Cena because how can you believe he is such a bad ass when he gets beat by Bray Watt or whoever on public tv a week or so before the PPVs?    Brock has limited appearances and this only builds into his brand and merchandising point.  Wrestle once or twice a year and only the top challenger that is getting the current push at the time. 
Agreed ..nice post.
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Post by: MCWAY on April 09, 2014, 07:30:27 PM
Ok, basically the Streak had to end.  Why?  Because if you retired UT while undefeated, then you retired a WM gimmick/attraction that had more drawing power than most of it's main events at times.  So there has to be someone to carry on the tradition in some form or another.  Brock could be billed as the Baddest Man On The Planet now and everyone jockeys for a shot each year to knock him off the hill.

But it had to be Brock that gained this spot.  There was no one else they could give it to.  Punk?  Not with his unreliability of walking out and his independent streak over what is right/wrong for his fellow workers.  Michaels, HHH, etc... they couldn't have done it because they were already at the end of their careers and nagged by injuries.  You couldn't give it to John Cena because how can you believe he is such a bad ass when he gets beat by Bray Watt or whoever on public tv a week or so before the PPVs?    Brock has limited appearances and this only builds into his brand and merchandising point.  Wrestle once or twice a year and only the top challenger that is getting the current push at the time. 

But, who's going to carry on the tradition? No major star has an undefeated record at 'Mania. That honor was Undertaker's and his alone; now, it's gone.
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Post by: Playboy on April 10, 2014, 07:50:56 AM
But, who's going to carry on the tradition? No major star has an undefeated record at 'Mania. That honor was Undertaker's and his alone; now, it's gone.
More importantly will WWE be able to sign/develop any new legends/icons of the undertaker/hbk/hhh ? I truly believe we have seen the end of an era.
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Post by: Montague on April 10, 2014, 07:56:22 AM
More importantly will WWE be able to sign/develop any new legends/icons of the undertaker/hbk/hhh ? I truly believe we have seen the end of an era.


Okay, I'll quit my job and lace up the boots again...

 ;D
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Post by: Playboy on April 10, 2014, 03:29:35 PM

Okay, I'll quit my job and lace up the boots again...

 ;D
Save us Monty...316!!!
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Post by: Montague on April 10, 2014, 05:02:13 PM
Save us Monty...316!!!


There's not enough money in it.

 ;)
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Post by: Playboy on April 10, 2014, 05:28:38 PM

There's not enough money in it.

 ;)
Will pay you 1.2mil plus you get your own tour bus and 2 first class flight tickets and 5 star hotel accommodations.
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Post by: Montague on April 10, 2014, 06:12:40 PM
Will pay you 1.2mil plus you get your own tour bus and 2 first class flight tickets and 5 star hotel accommodations.


Give me total creative control and I'll book you a "Shockmaster" think about it.









Fuck you, Dusty.
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Post by: Playboy on April 10, 2014, 06:23:35 PM

Give me total creative control and I'll book you a "Shockmaster" think about it.









Fuck you, Dusty.
Oh God......The Shockmaster.....and that ridiculous helmet.
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Post by: Montague on April 10, 2014, 06:27:50 PM
Oh God......The Shockmaster.....and that ridiculous helmet.


Just another common gem from the brilliant mind of the common man.
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Post by: Playboy on April 11, 2014, 01:26:05 AM

Just another common gem from the brilliant mind of the common man.
A Jim Herd special:)
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Post by: Montague on April 11, 2014, 05:32:40 AM
A Jim Herd special:)


Herd let's Flair walk, but green-lights Busty Rhodes' "Shockmaster."
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Post by: Playboy on April 11, 2014, 07:41:52 AM

Herd let's Flair walk, but green-lights Busty Rhodes' "Shockmaster."
And people question why WCW failed. Its like putting a homeless person in a high end fine dine restaurant.  Its destined to fail.
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Post by: MCWAY on April 11, 2014, 09:08:00 AM
Oh God......The Shockmaster.....and that ridiculous helmet.

It wasn't that bad. There's only so much you can do with Tugboat.
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Post by: MCWAY on April 11, 2014, 09:13:44 AM
More importantly will WWE be able to sign/develop any new legends/icons of the undertaker/hbk/hhh ? I truly believe we have seen the end of an era.

And that's all the more reason I'm upset over the fact that 'Taker jobbed to Lesnar (or to anyone).

Heck, I could have even stomached his losing, during his biker gimmick. I figured that, if he didn't get beat then, he'd never lose.  

Why didn't he just go out WM 27 style and let Lesnar destroy him but pull off a cheap pin, to keep the streak intact?

Save us Monty...316!!!

That frosts me even more (not Monty, of course). Austin gets way over at 'Mania, despite getting beat half to death and left in a pool of his own blood. Yet, 'Taker doesn't put Lesnar over without killing the streak....just painful.