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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Chick on March 22, 2012, 10:32:06 AM
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it's been brought to my attention that there was a thread about me having colon cancer...not true.
While I don't share most of my private life for obvious reasons, I appreciate the concern from people in my well being
As most of you know, my father recently passed away ( Dec 26) from advanced prostate cancer...he was diagnosed about 13 years ago
One year ago, I was diagnosed with the beginning stages of prostate cancer, and the Gleason score indicated it was pretty aggressive...just like my fathers.
My father elected to go the radiation route, as it was the newest treatment back then...obviously, it didn't work
My choice was fairly obvious, prostate removal, with the newest technology...divinci robot assisted radical prostatectomy...which I did.
Surgery was successful, I'm cancer free ( for now)....and a series of follow up PSA's will let us know if I remain cancer free...
I thank God I was able to heal quickly in order to help my father and family through what would be, his last 6 months with us...
First PSA resulted in an undetectable score ( best case scenario)....I'm due for another one now....
All good boys....
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Good to hear, glad you got it sorted early.
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Excellent news....best of luck in the future and God bless.
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Best of luck to you chickyBOY in a healthy life, hope you die an old man with aged nuts to match a wrinkled 90+yr old face ;D
FUCK CANCER
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good to hear, mate .
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Hope you remain in fine health Bob, best wishes.
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Best of luck to you chickyBOY in a healthy life, hope you die an old man with aged nuts to match a wrinkled 90+yr old face ;D
FUCK CANCER
Exactly, nothing worse than dying in your 50's and healthy, you should definitely die as an old 90 year old man peeing your bed somewhere, absolutely :D
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prostate of peace
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Glad to hear everything`s OK Bob.....continued good health to you.
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Exactly, nothing worse than dying in your 50's and healthy, you should definitely die as an old 90 year old man peeing your bed somewhere, absolutely :D
90 now isnt going to be like 90 in 50 years
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PHEW
Was worried there for a bit Chick!
Good to hear everything is well!
What are the cons of removing your prostate though?
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90 now isnt going to be like 90 in 50 years
What do you mean by that? Bob Chick looks like a 90 year old?
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That's good to hear.
PS: In before gh15 takes credit for this one ::)
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90 now isnt going to be like 90 in 50 years
exactly, with the advances made every day, life will be a lot different
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What do you mean by that? Bob Chick looks like a 90 year old?
I mean the way we are living now plus medical science means that in 50 years when the average 40yr old is 90, the quality of life is going to be far greater.Theres even talk that there could be a way to reverse the aging process and live forever (assuming no accidents) within the next 50 years.
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90 now isnt going to be like 90 in 50 years
Exactly because 90 now in 50 years will be 140.
Glad to hear your "clean" Bob.
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Bob, great to hear that you're in the clear.
A true getbigger that stayed around when the other pros ran away.
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Exactly, nothing worse than dying in your 50's and healthy, you should definitely die as an old 90 year old man peeing your bed somewhere, absolutely :D
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PS: In before gh15 takes credit for this one ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Who was the source of this rumor?
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hope is all well chick...
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For anyone interested theres a ton of projects expected to have big results witihin the next 10 years, 2 off the top of my head are one where they are working on reversing aging in mice then to humans and another, a russian Billionaire has hundreds working on transferring a human brain in to robot body, crazy but true.
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Good news! Chickster's positive prognosis means Basile's embitterment will continue. We all take comfort in that.
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Great to hear everything is ok.
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HONEST QUESTION BOB. What is lost/gained from prostate removal? I mean how does it affect your life afterwards, what types of things do you have to worry about. Why do we even need prostates?
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I mean the way we are living now plus medical science means that in 50 years when the average 40yr old is 90, the quality of life is going to be far greater.Theres even talk that there could be a way to reverse the aging process and live forever (assuming no accidents) within the next 50 years.
Noting the fact that our global elite wants to decline the growth of human population by bullshit vaccines, chemicals in foods, drinks, soil and air, building more and more underground bunkers for themselves and developing absurd bioweapons that are 1000 times more leathal than any nuclear weapon, and also wanting to replace all the tanks, helicopters and jets and whatever with automated AI drones, wanting to make all the human population chipped etc etc. makes me wonder the probability of your statement.
Because what you say is completely true, they could make people immortal right now, but all these cures, all these super technologies and glamour are not for you, it's only for the chosen ones, super educated minority that has no desire to share anything.
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fucking a 8)
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PHEW
Was worried there for a bit Chick!
Good to hear everything is well!
What are the cons of removing your prostate though?
Cant enjoy gay dick in ass sex anymore ??? ???
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Glad you are doing well Bob.
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Noting the fact that our global elite wants to decline the growth of human population by bullshit vaccines, chemicals in foods, drinks, soil and air, building more and more underground bunkers for themselves and developing absurd bioweapons that are 1000 times more leathal than any nuclear weapon, and also wanting to replace all the tanks, helicopters and jets and whatever with automated AI drones, wanting to make all the human population chipped etc etc. makes me wonder the probability of your statement.
Because what you say is completely true, they could make people immortal right now, but all these cures, all these super technologies and glamour are not for you, it's only for the chosen ones, super educated minority that has no desire to share anything.
fucking a 8)
They will only give the cure to attractive people, so Sevastase is fucked
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Chick - putting aside your run on rants and ridiculous explanations in support of Wieder and friends....
I wish you only the best for a long and healthy life. Let your case be an example for all others to follow to ensure that they not only get an annual physical but also to get that prostate checked as well.
Cancer is a hideous way to die!
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it's been brought to my attention that there was a thread about me having colon cancer...not true.
While I don't share most of my private life for obvious reasons, I appreciate the concern from people in my well being
As most of you know, my father recently passed away ( Dec 26) from advanced prostate cancer...he was diagnosed about 13 years ago
One year ago, I was diagnosed with the beginning stages of prostate cancer, and the Gleason score indicated it was pretty aggressive...just like my fathers.
My father elected to go the radiation route, as it was the newest treatment back then...obviously, it didn't work
My choice was fairly obvious, prostate removal, with the newest technology...divinci robot assisted radical prostatectomy...which I did.
Surgery was successful, I'm cancer free ( for now)....and a series of follow up PSA's will let us know if I remain cancer free...
I thank God I was able to heal quickly in order to help my father and family through what would be, his last 6 months with us...
First PSA resulted in an undetectable score ( best case scenario)....I'm due for another one now....
All good boys....
My grandfather died with prostate cancer. Hope you stay healthily chick.
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very good news bob
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HONEST QUESTION BOB. What is lost/gained from prostate removal? I mean how does it affect your life afterwards, what types of things do you have to worry about. Why do we even need prostates?
What is lost is the ability to have kids...it can affect your life immensely if the surgery doesn't go well, or more importantly, if the cancer had progressed beyond the prostate
Luckiily, my surgeon happened to be a guy who pioneered some of the procedure they use today...the key is not beating up the nerve, the more damage to it, the more likely you are to have incontinence issues and you would be shooting pool with a rope trying to have sex...
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They will only give the cure to attractive people, so Sevastase is fucked
lol ;D
you reminded me that I oughta start hitting the tanning salong.. my training is going prety nicely, I've brang my self up a little 8) , last summer ended for me due to the car hitting me but I have a feeling this summer will be a blast!
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Thanks for the update, Bob. Hope that everything continues to go well. 8)
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Chick - putting aside your run on rants and ridiculous explanations in support of Wieder and friends....
I wish you only the best for a long and healthy life. Let your case be an example for all others to follow to ensure that they not only get an annual physical but also to get that prostate checked as well.
Cancer is a hideous way to die!
yes, indeed my friend....
Early detection is the key...I have been diligent in having the yearly exam since I turned 40...that said, because of my dads history, it was more essential that I went ahead with the biopsy since the PSA score wasn't THAT high...in normal circumstance, he would have sent me on my way till next year...but I went to the same Dr. As my father....
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(http://galeriekulturistiky.webz.cz/cicherillo/Bob%20Cicherillo%2021.jpg)
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Chick is the man!
great for you!!!
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good to hear you got thru it. hopefully this year will be better for you than the last man!
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Are you done for good with using hormones? Even HRT doses?
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Are you done for good with using hormones? Even HRT doses?
actually, many docs advocate HRT as part of the therapy...I rule nothing out these days.
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Glad to hear you're okay - at least for now, Bob.
I've lost several loved ones to various cancers.
Wishing you continued health!!
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Good news! Chickster's positive prognosis means Basile's embitterment will continue. We all take comfort in that.
LOL :D
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haha yes basile is getting internal bleedings as we speak
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Hey chick, did you get your prostate checked due to age? or family history? and if you went in voluntarily what made you get it checked out? I only ask because i'm 34 and dont go to dr at all, i've seen a Dr maybe 3 times since i turned 18.
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que vince basile to steal the attention in
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Hey chick, did you get your prostate checked due to age? or family history? and if you went in voluntarily what made you get it checked out? I only ask because i'm 34 and dont go to dr at all, i've seen a Dr maybe 3 times since i turned 18.
Great question!
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Great news Bob
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Bob Chick is one of the best spokesman in this industry.
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Glad to hear everything's okay Bob - stay strong. 8)
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it's been brought to my attention that there was a thread about me having colon cancer...not true.
While I don't share most of my private life for obvious reasons, I appreciate the concern from people in my well being
As most of you know, my father recently passed away ( Dec 26) from advanced prostate cancer...he was diagnosed about 13 years ago
One year ago, I was diagnosed with the beginning stages of prostate cancer, and the Gleason score indicated it was pretty aggressive...just like my fathers.
My father elected to go the radiation route, as it was the newest treatment back then...obviously, it didn't work
My choice was fairly obvious, prostate removal, with the newest technology...divinci robot assisted radical prostatectomy...which I did.
Surgery was successful, I'm cancer free ( for now)....and a series of follow up PSA's will let us know if I remain cancer free...
I thank God I was able to heal quickly in order to help my father and family through what would be, his last 6 months with us...
First PSA resulted in an undetectable score ( best case scenario)....I'm due for another one now....
All good boys....
are you sure the story was about colon cancer? you know how getbig is, im sure they were talking about your ass, not cancer-wise though ;D
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My choice was fairly obvious, prostate removal, with the newest technology...divinci da Vinci robot assisted radical prostatectomy...which I did.
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Good news Bob
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Great to hear!
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Well we wouldn't want that now would we.
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Hey chick, did you get your prostate checked due to age? or family history? and if you went in voluntarily what made you get it checked out? I only ask because i'm 34 and dont go to dr at all, i've seen a Dr maybe 3 times since i turned 18.
Both age And history...
I just happened to be due for my yearly test...and since I was taking my father to one of his various visits at the time, decided to just have his dr. Do it as he had been my dads dr for many years...
at 34 you're still a few years away from needing a yearly test...
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HONEST QUESTION BOB. What is lost/gained from prostate removal? I mean how does it affect your life afterwards, what types of things do you have to worry about. Why do we even need prostates?
Are you kiddin me - I bet poor old Bob is missing the good wood! Sorry to hear about the medical issues - and hopefully the tackle is working - even if it wasn't I would be telling everybody it still goes as stiff as Iron.
.. and this is what gets me about bodybuilders who feign an interest in health and fitness, yet their weight training is superficial - a real trainer should at least know the basics of human male anatomy - if you dont what your prostate does or even why you have one - well, it might be time to take some time off the gym and read a few books, there are other parts of the body that matter other than Biceps.
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Had me worried in the first few sentence of your post. Best wishes from this side of the pond.
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i red "bob chick dancer"
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(http://galeriekulturistiky.webz.cz/cicherillo/Bob%20Cicherillo%2021.jpg)
Solid dude. All the way solid dude.
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thanks
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it's been brought to my attention that there was a thread about me having colon cancer...not true.
While I don't share most of my private life for obvious reasons, I appreciate the concern from people in my well being
As most of you know, my father recently passed away ( Dec 26) from advanced prostate cancer...he was diagnosed about 13 years ago
One year ago, I was diagnosed with the beginning stages of prostate cancer, and the Gleason score indicated it was pretty aggressive...just like my fathers.
My father elected to go the radiation route, as it was the newest treatment back then...obviously, it didn't work
My choice was fairly obvious, prostate removal, with the newest technology...divinci robot assisted radical prostatectomy...which I did.
Surgery was successful, I'm cancer free ( for now)....and a series of follow up PSA's will let us know if I remain cancer free...
I thank God I was able to heal quickly in order to help my father and family through what would be, his last 6 months with us...
First PSA resulted in an undetectable score ( best case scenario)....I'm due for another one now....
All good boys....
thanks for the clarification.....hope all is well, Big Guy
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Bob, does this mean I get to own you for another 50 years? ;D
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yes, indeed my friend....
Early detection is the key...I have been diligent in having the yearly exam since I turned 40...that said, because of my dads history, it was more essential that I went ahead with the biopsy since the PSA score wasn't THAT high...in normal circumstance, he would have sent me on my way till next year...but I went to the same Dr. As my father....
any getbigger who's in their mid-30's should have a Prostate check-up as part of their yearly Doctor's visit......I will include that in my next check-up.......I had a friend of mine who passed away 2yrs ago from colon cancer.....the scary thing is, he looked healthy and lifted weights with us all the time and there was no dramatic signs that he was sick, until a thourough routine check-up delivered the devastating news to him. Dude was only 31yrs old......it scared the shit out of me that when you don't check up regularly, the ticking bomb will get you by surprise
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My doc told me to wait until I turn 50. I'm assuming because we have no history of cancer in our family but it still scares the hell out of me.
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yeah I'm 37 and I had my first check done a few month ago, lets just say its not the most plessant thing but anybody who doesn't get it checked is an absolute retard.
Glad you feel good and all is well - since you said you cannot have more kids are you thinking of adopting second child? I can tell you I am adopted so I know first hand how much good you can do with that - think about it.
And btw, get rid of that cockknobbler who started the whole cancer story.
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Good to hear you're cancer free now Bob. Many believe cancer can't grow when the body is in an Alkaline state. Also vitamin B17 may be something to investigate.
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Bob....
Wishing you the best!
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yeah I'm 37 and I had my first check done a few month ago, lets just say its not the most plessant thing but anybody who doesn't get it checked is an absolute retard.
Glad you feel good and all is well - since you said you cannot have more kids are you thinking of adopting second child? I can tell you I am adopted so I know first hand how much good you can do with that - think about it.
And btw, get rid of that cockknobbler who started the whole cancer story.
Seriously, what kind of a scumbag wishes cancer on somebody. fucking people here have no boundaries
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bob stop eating so much meat you dickhead show some compassion for animals
red meat will certainly lead to cancer look up the difference between heme-iron found in meat and non-heme-iron in plants. if you wish to live on let "others" live you fucking jackass
hope you live a great life after you follow my advice
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Bob, best of luck with it. Cancer is an SOB
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I swear we handle more cancer patients than any othe illness in my unit. Some of the people i take care of have such agressive cancers that they may have only found out a month ago without any signs or symptoms only to be told they have a few months to live. We are not getting healthier people. Living longer does not mean a better quality of life with some if the stuff we deal with these days
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I swear we handle more cancer patients than any othe illness in my unit. Some of the people i take care of have such agressive cancers that they may have only found out a month ago without any signs or symptoms only to be told they have a few months to live. We are not getting healthier people. Living longer does not mean a better quality of life with some if the stuff we deal with these days
tell them to go strict vegetarian
what are your thoughts?
i dont understand it i have unlimited energy eating vegetarain but all i hear is a bunch of pussys crying cause they need meat to be active then losing there hair complaining about gout and getting cancer
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tell them to go strict vegetarian
what are your thoughts?
i dont understand it i have unlimited energy eating vegetarain but all i hear is a bunch of pussys crying cause they need meat to be active then losing there hair complaining about gout and getting cancer
SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hope you keep healthy.
Best regards
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I swear we handle more cancer patients than any othe illness in my unit. Some of the people i take care of have such agressive cancers that they may have only found out a month ago without any signs or symptoms only to be told they have a few months to live. We are not getting healthier people. Living longer does not mean a better quality of life with some if the stuff we deal with these days
How can you say that when you didn't live 100 or 200 years ago.
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that shits awesome, science amazes me.
For anyone interested theres a ton of projects expected to have big results witihin the next 10 years, 2 off the top of my head are one where they are working on reversing aging in mice then to humans and another, a russian Billionaire has hundreds working on transferring a human brain in to robot body, crazy but true.
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I swear we handle more cancer patients than any othe illness in my unit. Some of the people i take care of have such agressive cancers that they may have only found out a month ago without any signs or symptoms only to be told they have a few months to live. We are not getting healthier people. Living longer does not mean a better quality of life with some if the stuff we deal with these days
Do you find the cancer sufferers are in general very nice people? Both my aunties are nurses and I used to work with a chemo specialist, and they all said that a majority of people with cancer were the nicest, easiest people in the hospital.
And nothing against Bob (because he' seems like a cool guy and I wish him nothing but the best), but they also said, in aggressive cases, it was usually those few who were total assholes that would make it through - like you really needed to have a "fuck everyone, it's all about me" attitude. Thought it was interesting but not too sure how much to read into it.
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I swear we handle more cancer patients than any othe illness in my unit. Some of the people i take care of have such agressive cancers that they may have only found out a month ago without any signs or symptoms only to be told they have a few months to live. We are not getting healthier people. Living longer does not mean a better quality of life with some if the stuff we deal with these days
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Great news Bob. We look after our own on here, all bullshit aside.
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Great news Bob. We look after our own on here, all bullshit aside.
Wonder if the 'roids hastened this thing...
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Do you find the cancer sufferers are in general very nice people? Both my aunties are nurses and I used to work with a chemo specialist, and they all said that a majority of people with cancer were the nicest, easiest people in the hospital.
And nothing against Bob (because he' seems like a cool guy and I wish him nothing but the best), but they also said, in aggressive cases, it was usually those few who were total assholes that would make it through - like you really needed to have a "fuck everyone, it's all about me" attitude. Thought it was interesting but not too sure how much to read into it.
generally yes. Most people remain optomistic about their prognosis even facing death. I dont know how to make this sound right if u even could but one of the "positives" ive seen what cancer does for people is it forces you to re-elvaluate what and whos truly important in your life. Cancer patients seem to value those precious things that we take for granted.
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Good to hear you're fine, Bob!
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Wonder if the 'roids hastened this thing...
Its just amazing how genes work. His dad had it, Bob probably would have died just like his dad if he ignored his family history. Everyone should start looking for trends that run in the family. Cancer, heart disease/heart attacks etc......
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Wonder if the 'roids hastened this thing...
unlikely. In fact more research points to androgens as possibly playing a protective or preventative role. Estrogen is more likely the culprit. In bobs case most likely genetics/family hx/ race play the biggest parts in his situation.
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Hey Bob, glad to hear you are OK and must I commend you on the way you have posted here with honesty and most of all dignity.
You continue to be a class act. Best wishes for now and the future.
TD
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Hey Bob, glad to hear you are OK and must I commend you on the way you have posted here with honesty and most of all dignity.
You continue to be a class act. Best wishes for now and the future.
TD
Ditto. Bob's the best pro who's ever posted on GB. And probably one of the best ambassadors for the "sport" that we have. Also he's only slightly awkward when you accost him about his suits at expos.
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Ditto. Bob's the best pro who's ever posted on GB. And probably one of the best ambassadors for the "sport" that we have. Also he's only slightly awkward when you accost him about his suits at expos.
I'm sure Tom Prince has posted here all along, as with many other pros. They should just post as themselves and take the beating like a champ. Bob has always been cool, and I always used to like Pro Princes insight on Muscle Mayhem ages ago.
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do you ejaculate urine now Bob? I have heard some people do after that surgery.
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For anyone interested theres a ton of projects expected to have big results witihin the next 10 years, 2 off the top of my head are one where they are working on reversing aging in mice then to humans and another, a russian Billionaire has hundreds working on transferring a human brain in to robot body, crazy but true.
Anyone interested in big things comming (some if these come gradually and look like a "usual stuff", like a cell phone does look to us now, some hit with a bang and it's all different from then on, like internet.. Many ppl doesn't realize what some of these "hits" will be.. may very well transform the humanity as we know.): SENS (Aubrey De Grey), the manhattan project, Ray Kurzweil (u can watch a movie "Transcedent man", or "To age or not to age", some of Michio Kaku stuff.. Plenty more, but these are good for a start.
It's funny how most of the society are so indulged in NOW that thay aren't even remotely aware of big things like these evolving right under their noses.
These who are 20-30 now, can reasonably expect to be in a physical-biological shape of a current healthy 40yo, when they'll hit 60, 30 years later. So do will life expectancy increase (and not at a cost of a poor health like it's thought often. The actual health-span gains will be an actual cullprit.).
Now, other technologies.. I personally believe cancer won't be a bigger issue than a regular flu is right now, after like 10years fro now, well 15 at the worst case scenario, so most of you who'll manage to survive won't really face cancer as a "deadly dissease" like it is now. It will be a "common cold" (people still die from flu, but you aren't reevaluating your life choices when you are diagnosed with one, eh?).
The real obstacle and target is aging. It's a main "dissease", that triggers MOST of well known disseases of "old age" (they are called so on purpose). Cancer too actually, as getting cancer at a young age, if healthy and no genome fuck ups is pretty rare, due to a young immune system that gets rid of cancer cells immediately. When the global tides will turn towards a real war on aging (rather than on it's consequences) the world will be very very different place than it is now (well at least for some people.. as just like now, when some are still dieing from starvation, some are living in abundance, so you;ll have to have some decent money to have your stem cell pools "refilled", telomeres "reset", maybe some organs replaces, intracellular junk cleaned, some epigenetic patterns restored/chromatin strcutures of your DNA rearranged, etc..)..
Educate yourself, don't be a person of "inertia" like many are and you may realize that world is changing on a fast pace, a lot faster than many imagine.
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do you ejaculate urine now Bob? I have heard some people do after that surgery.
I bet you have a boner thinking about it.
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it's been brought to my attention that there was a thread about me having colon cancer...not true.
While I don't share most of my private life for obvious reasons, I appreciate the concern from people in my well being
As most of you know, my father recently passed away ( Dec 26) from advanced prostate cancer...he was diagnosed about 13 years ago
One year ago, I was diagnosed with the beginning stages of prostate cancer, and the Gleason score indicated it was pretty aggressive...just like my fathers.
My father elected to go the radiation route, as it was the newest treatment back then...obviously, it didn't work
My choice was fairly obvious, prostate removal, with the newest technology...divinci robot assisted radical prostatectomy...which I did.
Surgery was successful, I'm cancer free ( for now)....and a series of follow up PSA's will let us know if I remain cancer free...
I thank God I was able to heal quickly in order to help my father and family through what would be, his last 6 months with us...
First PSA resulted in an undetectable score ( best case scenario)....I'm due for another one now....
All good boys....
Good to hear man, you're a good guy. Best wishes for the future.
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I wish you the best of health!
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I wish you the best of health!
Jesus! :o 2004? You are the king of lurkers!
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Good to hear Bob....all the best...and for being so honest and straightforward about it
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it's been brought to my attention that there was a thread about me having colon cancer...not true.
While I don't share most of my private life for obvious reasons, I appreciate the concern from people in my well being
As most of you know, my father recently passed away ( Dec 26) from advanced prostate cancer...he was diagnosed about 13 years ago
One year ago, I was diagnosed with the beginning stages of prostate cancer, and the Gleason score indicated it was pretty aggressive...just like my fathers.
My father elected to go the radiation route, as it was the newest treatment back then...obviously, it didn't work
My choice was fairly obvious, prostate removal, with the newest technology...divinci robot assisted radical prostatectomy...which I did.
Surgery was successful, I'm cancer free ( for now)....and a series of follow up PSA's will let us know if I remain cancer free...
I thank God I was able to heal quickly in order to help my father and family through what would be, his last 6 months with us...
First PSA resulted in an undetectable score ( best case scenario)....I'm due for another one now....
All good boys....
what are the chances massive steroid use for decades accelerated the development of a prostate cancer considering you were alrdy genetically prone to it?
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good.news bob!
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Glad to hear everything is good. Will say a prayer for you to remain that way.
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what are the chances massive steroid use for decades accelerated the development of a prostate cancer considering you were alrdy genetically prone to it?
I guess anything is possible...but the bottom line is this...if it did accelerate the prostate cancer, then it probably saved my life, as my fathers fate was to be mine....my battle with this was much easier and detected early on, as opposed to having to deal with it at a older age.
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good luck
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Great to hear, Bob. We're pulling for ya.
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How exactly did you get your prostate tested?
Blood work I presume?
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How exactly did you get your prostate tested?
Blood work I presume?
Routine PSA test...urine sample, blood. results should be as close to 0.0 as possible.
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I guess anything is possible...but the bottom line is this...if it did accelerate the prostate cancer, then it probably saved my life, as my fathers fate was to be mine....my battle with this was much easier and detected early on, as opposed to having to deal with it at a older age.
fuck me bob
that must be the stupidest thing you have said so far, and believe me you have said plenty
beyond everything else that is absurd in that statement, dont you know that the older you are the slower mitosis/cell replication occurs and so the slower your cancer spreads
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fuck me bob
that must be the stupidest thing you have said so far, and believe me you have said plenty
beyond everything else that is absurd in that statement, dont you know that the older you are the slower mitosis/cell replication occurs and so the slower your cancer spreads
tell that to my father
there was nothing absurd about my statement, if you know what you're talking about.
It's purely a hypothetical at best, but if indeed my cancer was accelerated by my own doing, then it's quite possible that exposing it now has Led to an early treatment and much better prognosis of recovery...
The longer the cancer would have been present in my prostate, the more likely it would been to have spread outside of the prostate and into the vital organs and bone....THATS the difference
Stick to what you know, kid....
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Bob, if I sent you a hundred bucks, could you give me some steroids?
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Great news Bob and I'm happy for you and your family.
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Routine PSA test...urine sample, blood. results should be as close to 0.0 as possible.
Mine always tests 0.5.
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Good to hear it! I wish the very best for u my friend!!!
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actually, many docs advocate HRT as part of the therapy...I rule nothing out these days.
I've been on HRT for the better part of three years. When my doctor diagnosed my prostate cancer last January, he had me immediately stop the testosterone cypionate injections. Recently, I was advised to stop taking DHEA too.
Incidentally, I had another PSA in February as part of my annual physical exam. In one month after stopping the testosterone cypionate my PSA went from 9.7 to 6.1. I see my urologist in May. I will be scheduling the Da Vinci robotic prostatectomy then. I am anxious to see if my PSA continues to fall between now and then and what he has to say about this.
A couple of years ago, I had a cancerous growth on the bottom of my foot. Most of it was excised at the doctor's office to send to the lab for testing. What remained eventually disappeared and so the planned radiation was deemed unnecessary. That was a really weird situation which my doctors cannot explain to me.
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Thats very very good to hear it. Bob. ;)
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Great to know your well Bob.
EL PACIFICO!
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actually, many docs advocate HRT as part of the therapy...I rule nothing out these days.
say what?! I didn't read the whole thread, but I'd definitely say you aren't going to find many doctors recommending androgens for anyone with prostate cancer. Androgens fuel prostate cancer cell growth. That's why ANTI-androgens are a treatment for prostate cancer. Most docs would be reluctant to even recommend HRT in someone with low testosterone who has a history of prostate cancer.
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I guess anything is possible...but the bottom line is this...if it did accelerate the prostate cancer, then it probably saved my life, as my fathers fate was to be mine....my battle with this was much easier and detected early on, as opposed to having to deal with it at a older age.
Sorry to hear about the prostate CA, and I wish you all the best, but I'd say steroids absolutely accelerate prostate cancer, and you could just as easily argue that your prostate cancer may never have manisted itself clinically had you not used steroids. Many prostate cancers are indolent and there are patients we don't even recommend treatment for. With routine PSA screening and minus the steroids your cancer may have ultimately been discovered decades from now at a similarly low-risk stage, but you would have spared yourself all the potential side effects of treatment. Again, I truly wish you all the best, but I think this is one of those areas where steroids actually are bad.
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say what?! I didn't read the whole thread, but I'd definitely say you aren't going to find many doctors recommending androgens for anyone with prostate cancer. Androgens fuel prostate cancer cell growth. That's why ANTI-androgens are a treatment for prostate cancer. Most docs would be reluctant to even recommend HRT in someone with low testosterone who has a history of prostate cancer.
Perhaps you should read it again...
I said POST surgery, not prior to or with the diagnoses of cancer...
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All the best to you Bob, ive had Relations who have had this (and have it) Nasty business all round thankfully you have caught it early cause ive seen first hand what happens to people close to you when you DON'T CATCH it early.
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A pro BBer who i have the utmost respect for, never had a bad word to say about you and hope everything goes to plan. Heres to your health.
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I mean the way we are living now plus medical science means that in 50 years when the average 40yr old is 90, the quality of life is going to be far greater.Theres even talk that there could be a way to reverse the aging process and live forever (assuming no accidents) within the next 50 years.
You been watchin 'The Island?"
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Pecan Pie at least once a week, preferably a few times a week will prevent Prostate Cancer. True Story.
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Routine PSA test...urine sample, blood. results should be as close to 0.0 as possible.
Time I get a check up. I'm 35 and haven't had one since.... HS maybe? :-\
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Time I get a check up. I'm 35 and haven't had one since.... HS maybe? :-\
Just say your prayers everyday and you should be fine.
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Bob, u ever take finasteride when taking your test?
Finasteride has been linked to more aggressive prostate cancers...
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say what?! I didn't read the whole thread, but I'd definitely say you aren't going to find many doctors recommending androgens for anyone with prostate cancer. Androgens fuel prostate cancer cell growth. That's why ANTI-androgens are a treatment for prostate cancer. Most docs would be reluctant to even recommend HRT in someone with low testosterone who has a history of prostate cancer.
Actually, there are other opinions of the effect of TRT and prostate cancer. Right or wrong, this is an interesting article.
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/dec2008_Destroying-the-Myth-about-Testosterone-Replacement-Prostate-Cancer_01.htm
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Glad to hear the surgery went well. Wishing you health, happiness and prosperity.
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are you going to cool down on the steroid abuse after this episode of health problems?
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I've been on HRT for the better part of three years. When my doctor diagnosed my prostate cancer last January, he had me immediately stop the testosterone cypionate injections. Recently, I was advised to stop taking DHEA too.
Incidentally, I had another PSA in February as part of my annual physical exam. In one month after stopping the testosterone cypionate my PSA went from 9.7 to 6.1. I see my urologist in May. I will be scheduling the Da Vinci robotic prostatectomy then. I am anxious to see if my PSA continues to fall between now and then and what he has to say about this.
A couple of years ago, I had a cancerous growth on the bottom of my foot. Most of it was excised at the doctor's office to send to the lab for testing. What remained eventually disappeared and so the planned radiation was deemed unnecessary. That was a really weird situation which my doctors cannot explain to me.
That is good news Prime. Thanks for the update. Please if you feel compelled to do so, keep us informed, if you want. I am pulling for you.
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good shit Bob
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John Romano said you were dying. :'(
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John Romano said you were dying. :'(
In all seriousness can you STFU please?
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That's right, let's hide the truth about steroids so the young kids on Getbig can grow up and have chemo and dialysis.
You are barking at the wrong tree fuckhead - I am probably the most anti steroids on this board and much disliked for airing my view.
The issue here is that the fucker is spreading lies about the personal life of other members of this boards, IF Bob would have cancer I am sure he wants to choose the time and date to tell the getbig community.
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Tone down the profanity, small man. Pretend I'm standing in front of you and mind your manners.
::) another gimmick on the list
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what are the chances massive steroid use for decades accelerated the development of a prostate cancer considering you were alrdy genetically prone to it?
I think is pretty well know about androgen's and the prostate. And jury is still out about HGH and predisposed illness's. But with HGH making things grow in the body, that can't be a good thing...
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tell that to my father
there was nothing absurd about my statement, if you know what you're talking about.
It's purely a hypothetical at best, but if indeed my cancer was accelerated by my own doing, then it's quite possible that exposing it now has Led to an early treatment and much better prognosis of recovery...
The longer the cancer would have been present in my prostate, the more likely it would been to have spread outside of the prostate and into the vital organs and bone....THATS the difference
Stick to what you know, kid....
So Bob what you are saying is that one should actually take cancerogenous substances to flush out all potential cancers as early as possible so that they can be treated early ::)
I think you are confusing early diagnosis with early onset
Did you talk this over with your doctor and the medical profession. I think that is valuable info that may revolutionise preventative medicine.
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That is good news Prime. Thanks for the update. Please if you feel compelled to do so, keep us informed, if you want. I will pull on it for you.
fixed.
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So Bob what you are saying is that one should actually take cancerogenous substances to flush out all potential cancers as early as possible so that they can be treated early ::)
I think you are confusing early diagnosis with early onset
Did you talk this over with your doctor and the medical profession. I think that is valuable info that may revolutionise preventative medicine.
Haha
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Bob, u ever take finasteride when taking your test?
Finasteride has been linked to more aggressive prostate cancers...
Can you cite some studies which bear this theory out? I took Proscar and later the generic Finasteride for many years to treat benign prostate hyperplasia (BPH). It was my understanding from my doctor that Finasteride, if anything, helped prevent prostate cancer. I stopped taking this medicine because I read that it also can cause ED. These days, I substitute Saw Palmetto instead.
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How exactly did you get your prostate tested?
Blood work I presume?
There is the doctor's finger up your butt test, which most of us don't much care for. One's blood is tested for it's prostate specific androgen (PSA) levels. When they climb, that can indicate a problem. PSA tests are not absolute as many things can affect the results. However, a better test is not yet available. If the doctor suspects there is an issue, he will recommend you have a needle biopsy of the prostate. A dozen or more samples are taken from the prostate gland using a specialized tool which is inserted through the anus. This test is not fun! However, dying from prostate cancer would be worse.
I have had a total of four biopsies over the last ten years or so. All showed no prostate cancer until the last one. Prior to this last biopsy, I also did a specialized urine test which identifies cancer cells in one's urine. Mine tested positive for cancer.
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So Bob what you are saying is that one should actually take cancerogenous substances to flush out all potential cancers as early as possible so that they can be treated early ::)
I think you are confusing early diagnosis with early onset
Did you talk this over with your doctor and the medical profession. I think that is valuable info that may revolutionise preventative medicine.
LOL! :D
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I guess anything is possible...but the bottom line is this...if it did accelerate the prostate cancer, then it probably saved my life, as my fathers fate was to be mine....my battle with this was much easier and detected early on, as opposed to having to deal with it at a older age.
I concur with you on this. If I had not been on TRT and under a doctor's care, it is possible the prostate cancer would not have been detected as quickly and caught as early on as it was. Part of my TRT regime was twice yearly blood tests for PSA levels. It was the climbing PSA that led to a specialized urine test for cancer. When that came back positive, the doctor had me schedule a prostate biopsy. The rest is history....well almost, I am going to schedule the surgery next May.
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it's been brought to my attention that there was a thread about me having colon cancer...not true.
While I don't share most of my private life for obvious reasons, I appreciate the concern from people in my well being
As most of you know, my father recently passed away ( Dec 26) from advanced prostate cancer...he was diagnosed about 13 years ago
One year ago, I was diagnosed with the beginning stages of prostate cancer, and the Gleason score indicated it was pretty aggressive...just like my fathers.
My father elected to go the radiation route, as it was the newest treatment back then...obviously, it didn't work
My choice was fairly obvious, prostate removal, with the newest technology...divinci robot assisted radical prostatectomy...which I did.
Surgery was successful, I'm cancer free ( for now)....and a series of follow up PSA's will let us know if I remain cancer free...
I thank God I was able to heal quickly in order to help my father and family through what would be, his last 6 months with us...
First PSA resulted in an undetectable score ( best case scenario)....I'm due for another one now....
All good boys....
great news.. inshaALLAH you will be fine forever..
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LOL! :D
For folks who have prostate cancer, it is no laughing matter. Unfortuately, a lot of men never get tested for prostate cancer, although statistically one in six men will get it. The sooner it is detected the better one's chances of survival. So you just keep on laughing.
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great news.. inshaALLAH you will be fine forever..
X2!
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it's been brought to my attention that there was a thread about me having colon cancer...not true.
While I don't share most of my private life for obvious reasons, I appreciate the concern from people in my well being
As most of you know, my father recently passed away ( Dec 26) from advanced prostate cancer...he was diagnosed about 13 years ago
One year ago, I was diagnosed with the beginning stages of prostate cancer, and the Gleason score indicated it was pretty aggressive...just like my fathers.
My father elected to go the radiation route, as it was the newest treatment back then...obviously, it didn't work
My choice was fairly obvious, prostate removal, with the newest technology...divinci robot assisted radical prostatectomy...which I did.
Surgery was successful, I'm cancer free ( for now)....and a series of follow up PSA's will let us know if I remain cancer free...
I thank God I was able to heal quickly in order to help my father and family through what would be, his last 6 months with us...
First PSA resulted in an undetectable score ( best case scenario)....I'm due for another one now....
All good boys....
Good news Bob!
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Glad to hear you are doing well Bob, and Prime I hope everything goes as well for you.
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Can you cite some studies which bear this theory out? I took Proscar and later the generic Finasteride for many years to treat benign prostate hyperplasia (BPH). It was my understanding from my doctor that Finasteride, if anything, helped prevent prostate cancer. I stopped taking this medicine because I read that it also can cause ED. These days, I substitute Saw Palmetto instead.
FDA Warns of High-Grade Prostate Ca Risk With BPH Drugs
By Emily P. Walker, Washington Correspondent, MedPage Today
Published: June 09, 2011
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WASHINGTON -- The FDA has issued a warning of an increased risk of high-grade prostate cancer with the 5-alpha reductase inhibitors finasteride (Proscar) and dutasteride (Avodart), currently approved to treat benign prostatic hypertrophy.
The agency announced Thursday that it has updated the Warnings and Precautions section of labels for the class of drugs -- which includes branded products Propecia and Jalyn under which finasteride and dutasteride are marketed for other indications -- to reflect the increased risk.
"This risk appears to be low, but healthcare professionals should be aware of this safety information, and weigh the known benefits against the potential risks when deciding to start or continue treatment with 5-ARIs in men," the agency wrote in its safety announcement.
Avodart, Jalyn, and Proscar are approved to treat symptoms of an enlarged prostate. Propecia, at a 1-mg dose, is approved to treat hair loss in men.
The announcement follows the FDA's Oncologic Drugs Advisory Committee's vote of 17-0 in December that GlaxoSmithKline's dutasteride and Merck's finasteride should not be used to prevent prostate cancer because the drugs are linked to a higher incidence of high-grade tumors.
GlaxoSmithKline was seeking to expand dutasteride's indication to include reducing the risk of prostate cancer in men who have had a prior negative biopsy and who have an elevated PSA.
Merck hadn't been seeking an expanded indication, but the company wanted to update the label of finasteride to detail positive results of the Prostate Cancer Prevention Trial (PCPT), which demonstrated the drug's chemopreventive potential.
Although the 5-alpha reductase inhibitors were shown to prevent low-risk cancers better than placebo, two large clinical trials painted a disturbing link between both drugs and an increased incidence of higher-risk prostate cancers.
Taken together, data from the trials -- the PCPT and the Reduction by Dutasteride of Prostate Cancer Events (REDUCE) trial -- showed the 5-alpha reductase inhibitors both provided a statistically significant reduction in the cumulative incidence of prostate cancer after four years (REDUCE) and seven years (PCPT) of treatment with dutasteride and finasteride, respectively.
But both trials also found an unexpected increase in the incidence of high-grade prostate cancers among men receiving the 5-alpha reductase inhibitors.
In the REDUCE trial, 29 high-grade tumors were found among patients being treated with dutasteride compared with 19 in the placebo group.
In the PCPT, there was a 26% decrease in all prostate cancers but an absolute increase of 1.3% in the incidence of high-grade tumors.
According to an FDA statistician who spoke at the December advisory committee meeting, if 200 men are treated with the drugs, it is expected that there will be one additional tumor with a Gleason score of 8 to 10.
How to handle low-grade prostate cancer is controversial in the urology community, in part because it is unknown if the low-grade tumors would ever develop into high-grade tumors, and also because the method used to originally detect prostate cancer -- the PSA test -- is inexact.
About five million men received a prescription for a 5-ARI between 2002 and 2009, according to the FDA.
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Bob lost his prostrate and still isn't against all these damned drugs in bodybuilding. What kind of athletes rep is this? What kind of human being is this? This sport stinks so bad it is embarrassing and sad.
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Bob lost his prostrate and still isn't against all these damned drugs in bodybuilding. What kind of athletes rep is this? What kind of human being is this? This sport stinks so bad it is embarrassing and sad.
You only read what you want to read, silly cunt ::)
Now please go back to Ironage and stay there, thx
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Best wishes Bob :)
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it's been brought to my attention that there was a thread about me having colon cancer...not true.
While I don't share most of my private life for obvious reasons, I appreciate the concern from people in my well being
Surgery was successful, I'm cancer free ( for now)....and a series of follow up PSA's will let us know if I remain cancer free...
I thank God I was able to heal quickly in order to help my father and family through what would be, his last 6 months with us...
First PSA resulted in an undetectable score ( best case scenario)....I'm due for another one now....
All good boys.... and girls
Best wishes for good results in your next test and continued good health
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Best wishes for good results in your next test and continued good health
Just curious, I read 'rustig' under your avatar, are you Dutch?
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Just curious, I read 'rustig' under your avatar, are you Dutch?
no
it's from Bas :) .. I'm using it and hoping for the best
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it's from Bas :) .. I'm using it and hoping for the best
Ah, that's a typical Dutch name.
In case you really don't know, it means 'quiet'.
For a Dutchman, that means a compliment ;)
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Ah, that's a typical Dutch name.
In case you really don't know, it means 'quiet'.
For a Dutchman, that means a compliment ;)
:)
I'm preferring to use these adjectives ( quiet isn't condusive to posting )... Bas used to put 2 "R"s on his hands before fighting
calm, low-keyed, peaceful, placid, relaxed, serene, subdued, tranquil, unruffled
Ron asked me to return calmly so I am attempting to do my best
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:)
I'm preferring to use these adjectives ( quiet isn't condusive to posting )... Bas used to put 2 "R"s on his hands before fighting
calm, low-keyed, peaceful, placid, relaxed, serene, subdued, tranquil, unruffled
Ron asked me to return calmly so I am attempting to do my best
Ah, you mean Bas Rutten. I thought your Dutch bf/husband is called Bas (or maybe both is true, LOL).
Remember, this place is full of assholes/assholinas, but.... just let them bark like dogs. After all, it's just the internetz ;)
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Glad you're okay Bobby!!
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thanks
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LOL!
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Ah, you mean Bas Rutten. I thought your Dutch bf/husband is called Bas (or maybe both is true, LOL).
Remember, this place is full of assholes/assholinas, but.... just let them bark like dogs. After all, it's just the internetz ;)
:)
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Best wishes for good results in your next test and continued good health
x2. QFT. Good post.
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I'm preferring to use these adjectives ( quiet isn't condusive to posting )... Bas used to put 2 "R"s on his hands before fighting
calm, low-keyed, peaceful, placid, relaxed, serene, subdued, tranquil, unruffled
Ron asked me to return calmly so I am attempting to do my best
Does this mean pussy pics?
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Does this mean pussy pics?
I posted good ones on the girls board :)
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I posted good ones on the girls board :)
:-* lol
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I posted good ones on the girls board :)
Ahhh I see what you did there. (of course I went straight to the girl boards only to see deep sea creatures and kittens. ;D
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So Bob what you are saying is that one should actually take cancerogenous substances to flush out all potential cancers as early as possible so that they can be treated early ::)
I think you are confusing early diagnosis with early onset
Did you talk this over with your doctor and the medical profession. I think that is valuable info that may revolutionise preventative medicine.
so is Bob a pioneer in the world of medicine or did he self own himself in this thread? :-\
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I'm preferring to use these adjectives ( quiet isn't condusive to posting )... Bas used to put 2 "R"s on his hands before fighting
calm, low-keyed, peaceful, placid, relaxed, serene, subdued, tranquil, unruffled
Ron asked me to return calmly so I am attempting to do my best
Seems you have more sides to your personality than one would have guessed. Good job at keeping your posts serene (I like that word the best). ;)
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Good luck Bob. We'll pray for you my negro.
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Take care Bob and all the best :)
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7 pages and no mention of room 7 ???
All the best Robert.
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Ahhh I see what you did there. (of course I went straight to the girl boards only to see deep sea creatures and kittens. ;D
Lol..pwned ;D
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i had my prostate checked last month, they did the psa test and the doc rammed his finger in my ass. i think those doctors enjoy that part, the friggin guy was smilin and wigglin his finger around for what seemed like a minute. my prostate according to the doctor was fine.
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i had my prostate checked last month, the doc rammed his finger in my ass. i think those doctors enjoy that part, the friggin guy was smilin and wigglin his finger around for what seemed like a minute.
lol
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Seems you have more sides to your personality than one would have guessed. Good job at keeping your posts serene (I like that word the best). ;)
I'm multi faceted lol
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i had my prostate checked last month, they did the psa test and the doc rammed his finger in my ass. i think those doctors enjoy that part, the friggin guy was smilin and wigglin his finger around for what seemed like a minute. my prostate according to the doctor was fine.
Dream on....I seriously doubt most doctors like having to stick their finger (albeit, it is gloved) up some dude's asshole. It just part of the job. I do suspect there are a few folks, like maybe you, who relish the idea of something up their butt.
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Dream on....I seriously doubt most doctors like having to stick their finger (albeit, it is gloved) up some dude's asshole. It just part of the job. I do suspect there are a few folks, like maybe you, who relish the idea of something up their butt.
Who signs up for that shit? Proctologists have to be closet gays.
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Who signs up for that shit? Proctologists have to be closet gays.
lolz...
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Who signs up for that shit? Proctologists have to be closet gays.
A proctologist, more often referred to as a colorectal surgeon, is a medical professional who specializes in diseases of the colon, rectum, and anus. A proctologist sees a variety of conditions in the course of his or her practice, and also often works closely with urologists, who handle the urogenital tract in males and the urinary tract of women. In addition, a proctologist may work with an obstetrician/gynecologist to deal with specifically female issues or a gastroenterologist to deal with diseases of the gut. Cancers of the colon and rectum are the purview of a proctologist, as are fissures, fistulas, and hemorrhoids.
This doesn't seem at all gay to me.
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.meltdown.
Hi Vince Basile
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actually, most aids patients really die of cancer
just sayin'
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actually, most aids patients really die of cancer
just sayin'
So what is this supposed to mean? Are you suggesting prostate cancer is the result of AIDS? Because if it were, then there are a whole lot more people with AIDS then we know about.
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So what is this supposed to mean? Are you suggesting prostate cancer is the result of AIDS? Because if it were, then there are a whole lot more people with AIDS then we know about.
Does sucking cock make you dumb?
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Does sucking cock make you dumb?
I don't know. Why don't you try it and then let us all know if you are suddenly even dumber than you are now....or is that even possible?