Well, I did see Brad Hollibaugh one time at a contest but this was the first time I had actually seen it on someone working out at the gym. The guy wasn't very muscular except for his massive biceps. These things were obnoxiously huge and stayed flexed all the time. He was about mid 30's and was working out with a young kid, probably about 13-14...probably showing him how he built those huge guns! Pretty sad...it was a sight to see up close though.