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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2008, 08:34:05 AM »
Quote from: Rimbaud on August 05, 2008, 07:16:24 AM
I don't understand how or why someone could consider Deca worthless.

The "someone" has never used it.

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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2008, 10:08:16 AM »
Quote from: abc123 on August 05, 2008, 02:38:17 AM
Lower doses are used to improve anabolism and lean gains.  Higher doses are better for fat loss.

The average person's Thyroid bounces back within a few days.  If you have been on for 6+ months it's typically only a little longer.

Absolutely correct abc! 25mcg ed will afford you nice lean gains on deca. 37.5 is all you would need tops for lean gains. I would also speculate that lean gains are also determined by natural metabolism, and thyroid function.
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2008, 11:26:54 AM »
The only thing I don't like about Deca is that I can get out of breath walking up stairs while on it.

Its ok, breathing is overated anyway  ;)


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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2008, 11:55:28 AM »
Quote from: busyB on August 05, 2008, 11:26:54 AM
The only thing I don't like about Deca is that I can get out of breath walking up stairs while on it.

Its ok, breathing is overated anyway  ;)




Yeah I agree I would give up breathing to be huge!  ;D
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2008, 12:15:32 PM »
Well, maybe a breath here and there so I dont look like a big red balloon!

To say deca is worthless is a pretty bold statement. Too many UG products have given proven, quality compounds a bad name. I think deca is a must for anyone looking to add a lot of size, power, tendon relief, etc. But then again, Iam old  ;).

Test and Deca cycles have been used for millions of years with great success by the masses (ok, maybe not a million)

Busy approves! Actually, looking forward to starting it up again in 3 weeks! Time to grow kids!!
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2008, 02:43:56 PM »
Quote from: busyB on August 05, 2008, 12:15:32 PM
Well, maybe a breath here and there so I dont look like a big red balloon!

To say deca is worthless is a pretty bold statement. Too many UG products have given proven, quality compounds a bad name. I think deca is a must for anyone looking to add a lot of size, power, tendon relief, etc. But then again, Iam old  ;).

Test and Deca cycles have been used for millions of years with great success by the masses (ok, maybe not a million)

Busy approves! Actually, looking forward to starting it up again in 3 weeks! Time to grow kids!!

Yup!

If you don't grow off Test/Deca...you aren't human!

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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2008, 07:45:26 PM »
thanks for the replies,  people on other boards were trying to tell me just to do test only 500.  i can only see positive aspects if i added 300 deca to this as well.  be a solid second cycle...

just not sure whether do jumpstart this with 50 winny x 3 weeks, or 25 anadrol x 3 weeks... 
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2008, 07:47:59 PM »
Quote from: theworm on August 05, 2008, 07:45:26 PM
thanks for the replies,  people on other boards were trying to tell me just to do test only 500.  i can only see positive aspects if i added 300 deca to this as well.  be a solid second cycle...

just not sure whether do jumpstart this with 50 winny x 3 weeks, or 25 anadrol x 3 weeks... 
anadrol will kick the shit out of winstrol
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2008, 07:50:51 PM »
yeah, but as someone who is "paranoid" about sides....


but maybe 50 winny would be safer?  just for 3 weeks or so...
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2008, 06:06:27 AM »
Anadrol is not that bad at 50mg a day.

Dbol would be better IMO if you don't want side.

I'm not a fan of winny, unless you are prepping for a show.

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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2008, 09:53:21 AM »
but i cannot get dbol from my hrt clinic....

i would if i could though.
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2008, 09:54:32 AM »
Quote from: theworm on August 06, 2008, 09:53:21 AM
but i cannot get dbol from my hrt clinic....

i would if i could though.

How did you get Deca from a clinic?

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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2008, 10:16:30 AM »
most HRT clinics carry deca!
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2008, 11:22:59 AM »
Quote from: Overload on August 06, 2008, 09:54:32 AM
How did you get Deca from a clinic?
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As 4TH said, most clinics offer deca as well as drol and winny.
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2008, 11:50:16 AM »
I understand that...

i was wanting to know how and why he got a script for deca.

Every person i have ever met only got a script for test.

What circumstances would they give a person test AND deca?

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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2008, 11:54:11 AM »
Quote from: Overload on August 06, 2008, 11:50:16 AM
I understand that...

i was wanting to know how and why he got a script for deca.

Every person i have ever met only got a script for test.

What circumstances would they give a person test AND deca?

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Deca is typically prescribed as a joint supplement, in low doses 100-200mg/week for joint support.  It's pretty expensive though.
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2008, 11:56:21 AM »
Quote from: Overload on August 06, 2008, 11:50:16 AM
I understand that...

i was wanting to know how and why he got a script for deca.

Every person i have ever met only got a script for test.

What circumstances would they give a person test AND deca?

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Two reasons.  First, for joints.  Second, it's easier for the doc to justify adding some more anabolics to help sex drive, etc. than it is to add more mgs of testosterone.  At least that's what my doc told me.

Also, I know someone personally who gets Test, Deca and Winstol at the same time at reasonable high dosages.  ;)
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2008, 11:58:55 AM »
Noted!

and this is from LEGIT clinics, or the "under the table" clinics?

My wrist is fucking wrecked and my knee hurts, i think i need to see a Doc! ;D

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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2008, 12:02:48 PM »
Quote from: Overload on August 06, 2008, 11:58:55 AM
Noted!

and this is from LEGIT clinics, or the "under the table" clinics?

My wrist is fucking wrecked and my knee hurts, i think i need to see a Doc! ;D

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Legit clinics, but expensive.  However, my insurance covers 90% of it since I was diagnosed with hypogonadism.
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2008, 12:07:36 PM »
Quote from: abc123 on August 06, 2008, 12:02:48 PM
Legit clinics, but expensive.  However, my insurance covers 90% of it since I was diagnosed with hypogonadism.

Cool...

Thanks!

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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2008, 12:18:08 PM »
Doctors have the ability to prescribe reasonable agressive dosages, but they are usually scared shitless that the government will come after them.  It's really sad.

Also, you have to edcuate them a bit...  Once I explained the reasoning for switching to Prop for a few weeks at the end of a cycle, before PCT, my doc had no problem adding a couple of 10 cc vials into my order/prescription to extend the cycle a few weeks.
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2008, 02:25:03 PM »
yeah, my elbows really hurt a lot... ;)

very pricey though, but worth it though....  PM me if you want more info....
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2008, 02:25:49 PM »
Quote from: abc123 on August 06, 2008, 11:56:21 AM

Two reasons.  First, for joints.  Second, it's easier for the doc to justify adding some more anabolics to help sex drive, etc. than it is to add more mgs of testosterone.  At least that's what my doc told me.

Also, I know someone personally who gets Test, Deca and Winstol at the same time at reasonable high dosages.  ;)

They get Winstrol from a doctor?  I thought Winstrol was a veterinary drug, did not think it was approved for human use?  Maybe the dr's name is Mr. Ed?
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2008, 02:28:55 PM »
winny is FDA approved for a condition called "angioedema"  its actually the treatment of choice!
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Re: is deca worthless?
« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2008, 02:38:20 PM »
Quote from: Luv2Hurt on August 06, 2008, 02:25:49 PM
They get Winstrol from a doctor?  I thought Winstrol was a veterinary drug, did not think it was approved for human use?  Maybe the dr's name is Mr. Ed?

It's stanozolol, not Winstol.  I was just using the more familiar term.  Stanozolol is FDA approved for human use.
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