So when I said, "eating protein pre and post workout is probably a good idea" it was a worthless comment based on useless statistics? If studies say that training fasted results in a net catabolic state that is hard to reverse even if you eat after the workout, it was based on useless research?
Would you train fasted and then wait a few hours before eating if you wanted to gain muscle? I mean purely based on your personal experiences?
I'm sure it "works" for no one and galeniko but neither are putting on new muscle and both are on hormones. Neither even has the goal of gaining muscle.
whats you point?
your saying what im doing doesnt work?
i dont understand.
i said this is what i do, this is how i look. you say but your not putting on new muscle. you are on hormones. of course im on fucking hormones. are you retarded? of course it works for me. thats the whole point of the thread.
my post was aimed at the average gym rat who uses anabolics that wants to better themselves, which is what 90% of this board is. i make it perfectly clear my advise isnt for nattys, or pro bbers.
let me put it to you straight Van B.
nobody here has to listen to a word i say or follow my advise,. im not trying to say my way is better than any other way. im saying a) READ MY FUCKING POST. and then once you have read it,
see if anything i wrote, what im trying to do, the look im trying to achieve is something that you are interested in as well. if so, great- this is what i did to get there.
its that simple. im not training pro bbers here or nattys. im saying what i did to look the way i do. why is it so fucking hard for you to understand that.
like are you fucking retarded? how many time do i have have to make the emboldened part clear to you?
and for your information i got to the biggest and leanest i ever was 'training before i ate and fasting afterwards'. but im sure you have study somewhere that says thats not possible, or effective. lol