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win the Olympia this year if he would have skipped the arnold and put all his time energy into the show, he still could win but i think his chances would be better had he took the year off like Jay did the previous year.
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win the Olympia this year if he would have skipped the arnold and put all his time energy into the show, he still could win but i think his chances would be better had he took the year off like Jay did the previous year.
Winning the ASC put him on the map as a top 3 O guy.
Without that, he was just "a guy who might do well if he ever gets his shit together". He's elite now.
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yep hes is elite now.....i agree.....he needed that ASC win to put his name amongst the elite i.e beating dexter, heath, freeman etc.......freeman and dexter dont really have much room for improvement wheras victor has..... so does heath but heath is a little behind victor
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Winning the ASC put him on the map as a top 3 O guy.
Without that, he was just "a guy who might do well if he ever gets his shit together". He's elite now.
Didn't his top 3 placing at the O put him on the map as a top 3 O guy?
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yes....
but i think he needed a little more...i.e beating guys like dexter, freeman, heath etc etc
he had to show that it wasnt a one off
so by winnin the ASC this year he is making sure he will get the attention he deserves at the O
its better to win the ASC going into the Olympia than not winning it
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I always thought Vic had what it took to be Mr. O. He just has to develop Ronnie-like proportions. & I think he can do it, if he will.
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Charles B, back in the house. Did those restraining orders against you get taken care of?
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I always thought Vic had what it took to be Mr. O. He just has to develop Ronnie-like proportions. & I think he can do it, if he will.
oh so u think he can do it if he will ? the fuk does that mean
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Definitely elite. Took him a few years but he's developed the proper gut a Mr. O needs.
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lets not forget the Arnold is a nice payday which vic needs !
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win the Olympia this year if he would have skipped the arnold and put all his time energy into the show, he still could win but i think his chances would be better had he took the year off like Jay did the previous year.
he has a serious chance
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yep hes is elite now.....i agree.....he needed that ASC win to put his name amongst the elite i.e beating dexter, heath, freeman etc.......freeman and dexter dont really have much room for improvement wheras victor has..... so does heath but heath is a little behind victor
Freeman will be 7 to 9 pounds bigger - He also was very much a pain in victor's side at the Arnold
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/468690/toney_freeman_and_arnold_classic_2007/
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yes....
but i think he needed a little more...i.e beating guys like dexter, freeman, heath etc etc
he had to show that it wasnt a one off
so by winnin the ASC this year he is making sure he will get the attention he deserves at the O
its better to win the ASC going into the Olympia than not winning it
I'm not knocking on Heath, i think he is certainly one of the best rising guys, but he can't compare to Victor at the current time.
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Freeman will be 7 to 9 pounds bigger - He also was very much a pain in victor's side at the Arnold
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/468690/toney_freeman_and_arnold_classic_2007/
yeah freeman has really brought his upper body to the level of his wheels... i can't wait to see the package he brings to the stage
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win the Olympia this year if he would have skipped the arnold and put all his time energy into the show, he still could win but i think his chances would be better had he took the year off like Jay did the previous year.
Victor, this year, has a great chance to be in second place behind Jay Cutler. Ronnie, this year, as he gets older, has a much tougher change to be in the top two. Third place for Ronnie....
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Victor, this year, has a great chance to be in second place behind Jay Cutler. Ronnie, this year, as he gets older, has a much tougher change to be in the top two. Third place for Ronnie....
Jay is not the front runner - shape and symmerty are added back into the equations - Kai Greene , Silvio Samuels, Toney Freeman and Dennis Wolfe - size is no longer the basis of winning. Jay - has been chasing Ronnie for so long - He is starting to resemble the same mistakes - increased waist - reduced shape -
This show is open
Silvio vs. Dexter - battle
Jay vs. Ronnie - very boring but a battle - I think they or equal beating each other -Jay 4 wins and Ronnie 4 wins ( i may be off )
Gustavo vs. Melvin - yawn
Victor vs. Xman - the main event
However this is your Top 8 competiors
Dennis wolfe
Troy Alves
Darrem Charles
Bill Wilmore and others will bring you some interesting call outs
Wild Card - Chris Cormier - not good for Jay or Ronnie - The Clean up kid coming back to face two men he should of clearly beaten before - This year will be worth the ticket price.
The Arnold brought you a preview as The Xman exposed Victor in more than one way - Keep in mind Xman has NEVER stood on contest stage next to Ronnie Coleman and the last time X and Jay stood next to each other xman - weighted 256 pounds and not the 290+ he is now and that was 3 years ago .The winner of that show ? DEXTER JACKSON -
With everything figured -
Jay at 3rd place and if Chris is there 4th
Ronnie out side of the the Top 6
TRUE STORY whether you like it or not !
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Didn't his top 3 placing at the O put him on the map as a top 3 O guy?
That was a total gift, I didn't have him placed in the top 5 and he sure as hell didn't deserve third! IMO, Ronnie set the stage for Martinez when he said he was next in line to win the Olympia.
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Jay is not the front runner - shape and symmerty are added back into the equations - Kai Greene , Silvio Samuels, Toney Freeman and Dennis Wolfe - size is no longer the basis of winning. Jay - has been chasing Ronnie for so long - He is starting to resemble the same mistakes - increased waist - reduced shape -
This show is open
Silvio vs. Dexter - battle
Jay vs. Ronnie - very boring but a battle - I think they or equal beating each other -Jay 4 wins and Ronnie 4 wins ( i may be off )
Gustavo vs. Melvin - yawn
Victor vs. Xman - the main event
However this is your Top 8 competiors
Dennis wolfe
Troy Alves
Darrem Charles
Bill Wilmore and others will bring you some interesting call outs
Wild Card - Chris Cormier - not good for Jay or Ronnie - The Clean up kid coming back to face two men he should of clearly beaten before - This year will be worth the ticket price.
The Arnold brought you a preview as The Xman exposed Victor in more than one way - Keep in mind Xman has NEVER stood on contest stage next to Ronnie Coleman and the last time X and Jay stood next to each other xman - weighted 256 pounds and not the 290+ he is now and that was 3 years ago .The winner of that show ? DEXTER JACKSON -
With everything figured -
Jay at 3rd place and if Chris is there 4th
Ronnie out side of the the Top 6
TRUE STORY whether you like it or not !
What the hell are you talking about :o
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Charles B, back in the house. Did those restraining orders against you get taken care of?
If it is actually him, I hope he is medicated or something now and does not return to his old ways.
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What the hell are you talking about :o
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Don't agree - you one of the people who thought Ronnie would win last year? Just trying to educate you a little on Bodybuilding and not on the "wish list" of most bodybuilding fans.
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NOTHING ABOUT VICTORS PHYSIQUE REALLY JUMPS OUT AT ME THATS JUST ANOTHER WHITE MANS OPINION ;)
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The problem vic has in winning the O is that he just doesn't stand out yet. If he places high or wins a show, it's usually very close with the other guys. Jay ronnie and soon wolf on the other hand can BLOW people away. If vic gets a little bigger and a little drier MAYBE, but I doubt it. He just doesn't seem the have the work ethic the other guys have.
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Didn't his top 3 placing at the O put him on the map as a top 3 O guy?
LMAO ;D
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Victor, this year, has a great chance to be in second place behind Jay Cutler. Ronnie, this year, as he gets older, has a much tougher change to be in the top two. Third place for Ronnie....
say it ain't so!!!! :(
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By "if he will," I meant if Vic will do what it takes to get as big as Ronnie & Jay have.
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Victor, this year, has a great chance to be in second place behind Jay Cutler. Ronnie, this year, as he gets older, has a much tougher change to be in the top two. Third place for Ronnie....
Ron, you've been smokin too much orange chicken bro. There is no way in the world that Victor is ever going to beat Ronnie. Any body can beat anybody on an off day but, Jay and Victor at their best don't even come close to Ronnie at his best and NEVER will!!!!
I am really surprised that so many people are writing Ronnie off. Ronnie lost last year due to his back. Jay was not even close from the front and as far as legs go Ronnie's make Jay's look like a before and after picture. What I do fear is politics not letting Ronnie win again.
People are talking like Jay is all of the sudden light years ahead of Ronnie which is clearly not the case. In order for Jay to win Ronnie has to go backwards. This is completely different than if Jay all of the sudden passes up Ronnie's best. BIG difference!!!!! Like I said, not one current BBer that is competing today will ever come close to matching Ronnie's size and conditioning. Maybe a few years from now a freak will appear, but no one in the wings will.
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Ron, you've been smokin too much orange chicken bro. There is no way in the world that Victor is ever going to beat Ronnie. Any body can beat anybody on an off day but, Jay and Victor at their best don't even come close to Ronnie at his best and NEVER will!!!!
I am really surprised that so many people are writing Ronnie off. Ronnie lost last year due to his back. Jay was not even close from the front and as far as legs go Ronnie's make Jay's look like a before and after picture. What I do fear is politics not letting Ronnie win again.
People are talking like Jay is all of the sudden light years ahead of Ronnie which is clearly not the case. In order for Jay to win Ronnie has to go backwards. This is completely different than if Jay all of the sudden passes up Ronnie's best. BIG difference!!!!! Like I said, not one current BBer that is competing today will ever come close to matching Ronnie's size and conditioning. Maybe a few years from now a freak will appear, but no one in the wings will.
That being said............
Can I have a beer today ;D??
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That being said............
Can I have a beer today ;D??
After I pour my heart out that's all you can think of? ;D I'm no hard guy bro so yes, a light beer will be fine. :)
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After I pour my heart out that's all you can think of? ;D I'm no hard guy bro so yes, a light beer will be fine. :)
;D
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Ron, you've been smokin too much orange chicken bro. There is no way in the world that Victor is ever going to beat Ronnie. Any body can beat anybody on an off day but, Jay and Victor at their best don't even come close to Ronnie at his best and NEVER will!!!!
I am really surprised that so many people are writing Ronnie off. Ronnie lost last year due to his back. Jay was not even close from the front and as far as legs go Ronnie's make Jay's look like a before and after picture. What I do fear is politics not letting Ronnie win again.
People are talking like Jay is all of the sudden light years ahead of Ronnie which is clearly not the case. In order for Jay to win Ronnie has to go backwards. This is completely different than if Jay all of the sudden passes up Ronnie's best. BIG difference!!!!! Like I said, not one current BBer that is competing today will ever come close to matching Ronnie's size and conditioning. Maybe a few years from now a freak will appear, but no one in the wings will.
Jay, Ronnie, and Victor have nothing on King. King will mop the floor with those guys.
Sgt. D
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win the Olympia this year if he would have skipped the arnold and put all his time energy into the show, he still could win but i think his chances would be better had he took the year off like Jay did the previous year.
Jim Rockell has already stated that Martinez has aesthetics and symmetry beyond both Jay and Ronnie. The only thing he needs is more size. Lots of it. If he puts on 50 lbs of muscle and manages to mitigate the GH gut that comes with it, then he has it in the bag.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ron, you've been smokin too much orange chicken bro. There is no way in the world that Victor is ever going to beat Ronnie. Any body can beat anybody on an off day but, Jay and Victor at their best don't even come close to Ronnie at his best and NEVER will!!!!
I am really surprised that so many people are writing Ronnie off. Ronnie lost last year due to his back. Jay was not even close from the front and as far as legs go Ronnie's make Jay's look like a before and after picture. What I do fear is politics not letting Ronnie win again.
People are talking like Jay is all of the sudden light years ahead of Ronnie which is clearly not the case. In order for Jay to win Ronnie has to go backwards. This is completely different than if Jay all of the sudden passes up Ronnie's best. BIG difference!!!!! Like I said, not one current BBer that is competing today will ever come close to matching Ronnie's size and conditioning. Maybe a few years from now a freak will appear, but no one in the wings will.
and your a guru ::) more like a sissy ass cry baby ronnie fan! roniies legs look liked a pumped up middle age gym rats ,with zero detail! you know shit , so stop acting like you know sumthin ;)
take off the shades and stop livin in 2003
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yes....
but i think he needed a little more...i.e beating guys like dexter, freeman, heath etc etc
he had to show that it wasnt a one off
so by winnin the ASC this year he is making sure he will get the attention he deserves at the O
its better to win the ASC going into the Olympia than not winning it
pure genius!!!!
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After I pour my heart out that's all you can think of? ;D I'm no hard guy bro so yes, a light beer will be fine. :)
what kind of trainer are you ?
you are supposed to tell him to fuck off and have a glass of water ;D
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Victor, this year, has a great chance to be in second place behind Jay Cutler. Ronnie, this year, as he gets older, has a much tougher change to be in the top two. Third place for Ronnie....
then he will have a great chance to pay back the people he stole money from in exchange for his "gym memberships".
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yeah he definitly has a shot..ronnie said it himself and crowned victor as his successor. His time will come....
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I've never seen the big deal with VM
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what kind of trainer are you ?
you are supposed to tell him to fuck off and have a glass of water ;D
Light beer is water. ;D
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and your a guru ::) more like a sissy ass cry baby ronnie fan! roniies legs look liked a pumped up middle age gym rats ,with zero detail! you know shit , so stop acting like you know sumthin ;)
take off the shades and stop livin in 2003
Thank you for the kind response. :)
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its possible vic could win,
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Jay is not the front runner - shape and symmerty are added back into the equations - Kai Greene , Silvio Samuels, Toney Freeman and Dennis Wolfe - size is no longer the basis of winning. Jay - has been chasing Ronnie for so long - He is starting to resemble the same mistakes - increased waist - reduced shape -
This show is open
Silvio vs. Dexter - battle
Jay vs. Ronnie - very boring but a battle - I think they or equal beating each other -Jay 4 wins and Ronnie 4 wins ( i may be off )
Gustavo vs. Melvin - yawn
Victor vs. Xman - the main event
However this is your Top 8 competiors
Dennis wolfe
Troy Alves
Darrem Charles
Bill Wilmore and others will bring you some interesting call outs
Wild Card - Chris Cormier - not good for Jay or Ronnie - The Clean up kid coming back to face two men he should of clearly beaten before - This year will be worth the ticket price.
The Arnold brought you a preview as The Xman exposed Victor in more than one way - Keep in mind Xman has NEVER stood on contest stage next to Ronnie Coleman and the last time X and Jay stood next to each other xman - weighted 256 pounds and not the 290+ he is now and that was 3 years ago .The winner of that show ? DEXTER JACKSON -
With everything figured -
Jay at 3rd place and if Chris is there 4th
Ronnie out side of the the Top 6
TRUE STORY whether you like it or not !
Yes you're right, Kai or Silvio might beat Jay ::) People said all this shape and symmetry crap 3 or 4 years ago when Dexter started winning the ASC and placing top 3 at the O. Plus "TRUE STORY whether you like it or not !", who writes that, what a tard :-X