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The original title of their article was "Trigger-Happy Atlanta mom shoots intruder in the face 5 times"
They have since changed the title of the article to "Atlanta mom shoots intruder in the face 5 times" as well as changing some of the text after receiving flak.
A work at home mom was at home with her children when an intruder broke into her house. She grabbed her children and hide in an upstairs crawl space while her husband who she called was calling 911.
The burglar eventually made it to the room she was in and discovered their hiding spot. This is when she shot 6 times with a .38 revolver hitting the intruder 5 times in the face and neck area. She and her children then ran to a neighbors house. The criminal was able to get up and attempt to flee but did not get far.
From that story MSNBC got this headline:"Trigger-Happy Atlanta mom shoots intruder in the face 5 times"
just FUCKING WOW!!!
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These are the same fuktards who think all we need to do is call police and we will be safe...
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The original title of their article was "Trigger-Happy Atlanta mom shoots intruder in the face 5 times"
They have since changed the title of the article to "Atlanta mom shoots intruder in the face 5 times" as well as changing some of the text after receiving flak.
A work at home mom was at home with her children when an intruder broke into her house. She grabbed her children and hide in an upstairs crawl space while her husband who she called was calling 911.
The burglar eventually made it to the room she was in and discovered their hiding spot. This is when she shot 6 times with a .38 revolver hitting the intruder 5 times in the face and neck area. She and her children then ran to a neighbors house. The criminal was able to get up and attempt to flee but did not get far.
From that story MSNBC got this headline:"Trigger-Happy Atlanta mom shoots intruder in the face 5 times"
just FUCKING WOW!!!
Im glad she was "trigger-happy".
Retards calling you trigger-happy is a small price to pay for saving yourkids and yourself.
Fuck MSNBC. Although they changed it.
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looks like the idiots removed the "trigger happy" in a panic after. Pretty pathetic to word it like that.
http://now.msn.com/atlanta-mom-shoots-intruder-in-the-face-5-times
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Im glad she was "trigger-happy".
Retards calling you trigger-happy is a small price to pay for saving yourkids and yourself.
Fuck MSNBC. Although they changed it.
Indeed,
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should have used a 45.
headline might have been a little different ;)
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should have used a 45.
headline might have been a little different ;)
"Trigger happy Atlanta mom kills intruder by shooting him 5 times in the face"?
I agree, Ive never like .38's they are a pleasure to shoot though very little recoil and noise which make good training guns I guess.
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i think see should have used a 44 magnum she could have blown his head clean off
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obviously one of those paranoid gun nuts...
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i am pretty upset she didn't pick up something heavy or pointy and dish out a little more punishment.
that's what trigger happy people do. Or so I hear.
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i'm betting there's more to this story
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yeah i thought i read it elsewhere, something about he was pleading and she kept shooting, and she made a statement that wasn't exactly 'fearing for her life'?
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Fuck MSN.
That's not necessarily MSNBC is it?
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i think its pretty rare you see someone get shot 5 times in the face. especially if they were only shot in self defense and the person who shot them was using a semi automatic.
its obvious the woman shot the guy once, maybe twice, in the head ; and then after he dropped dead to the floor she walked up to his dead body, stood over him, and shot him in the face 3-4 times more.
thats the story here guys.
isnt that easy to see?
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my guess is that she tried to adminster the head shot standing over him, but did it at an angle or whatever that he survived.
you very much CANNOT stand over someone and execute them with 3-4 head shots. You shoot as you have to, and you get outta there. If she was standing over him making Dirty Harry one-liners while dishing out headshots, she's a fcking danger to society.
IF taht is what happened.
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yeah i thought i read it elsewhere, something about he was pleading and she kept shooting, and she made a statement that wasn't exactly 'fearing for her life'?
i suspect they knew him...
don't understand why she didn't call 911 right away when he was ringing her doorbell... instead of taking 10 minutes to wait for him to break down the door, chat with her husband on the phone, get her gun which must have been stored safely because she's got kids, load it and wait for the intruder to stumble into her trap and then fire away without a single warning...
if the intruder was not armed this would likely lead to a manslaughter conviction in canada
some versions of the story:
http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/01/06/atlanta-mother-shoots-intruder-five-times-in-self-defense/ (http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/01/06/atlanta-mother-shoots-intruder-five-times-in-self-defense/)
http://now.msn.com/atlanta-mom-shoots-intruder-in-the-face-5-times (http://now.msn.com/atlanta-mom-shoots-intruder-in-the-face-5-times)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/06/georgia-mom-home-alone-with-kids-shoots-ex-con-intruder/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/06/georgia-mom-home-alone-with-kids-shoots-ex-con-intruder/)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/georgia-mom-shoots-home-intruder-face-article-1.1234400 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/georgia-mom-shoots-home-intruder-face-article-1.1234400)
http://www.examiner.com/article/mom-shoots-intruder-5-times (http://www.examiner.com/article/mom-shoots-intruder-5-times)
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Fuck MSN.
That's not necessarily MSNBC is it?
yea I guess that's just a microsoft written article? The nbc partnership is confusing. Not sure if the news on msn comes from people at msnbc or not.
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The Internet sleuths are at work victimizing the criminal and criminalizing the victim. Par the course.
Do any of the people claiming she stood over the man and tried to execute him have any proof?
Damn her for protecting herself and her kids!!!!!
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my guess is that she tried to adminster the head shot standing over him, but did it at an angle or whatever that he survived.
WTF are you trying to say?
you very much CANNOT stand over someone and execute them with 3-4 head shots. You shoot as you have to, and you get outta there.
um, yes you can. and if some body just tried to rob your house and your a gun loving redneck who loves the idea of killing the bad guy (go military!!!), then your going to relish the oppurtunity.
If she was standing over him making Dirty Harry one-liners while dishing out headshots, she's a fcking danger to society.
IF taht is what happened.
and thats exactly why the story called her trigger happy
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Trigger happy mom is a lot better than Mother and her children found brutally raped and murdered.
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Do any of the people claiming she stood over the man and tried to execute him have any proof?
big claims require big evidence, which is more likely= woman is a good enough shot, a fast enough shot, to get him five times in the face before he falls dead? or the woman thinks violence "in the name of good" is a good thing and shot the dude in the head 3-4 times at point blank just for good measure. ??
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drugs...
must be drugs
that's what he was looking for
that's why she tried to murder him
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my guess is that she tried to adminster the head shot standing over him, but did it at an angle or whatever that he survived.
you very much CANNOT stand over someone and execute them with 3-4 head shots. You shoot as you have to, and you get outta there. If she was standing over him making Dirty Harry one-liners while dishing out headshots, she's a fcking danger to society.
IF taht is what happened.
Well good thing you've got this one all solved too. ::)
Always glad an expert like you who has been in soooo many of these situations can dictate exactly what should be done, how many shots should be fired, and at what angles.
Thanks man
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The original title of their article was "Trigger-Happy Atlanta mom shoots intruder in the face 5 times"
They have since changed the title of the article to "Atlanta mom shoots intruder in the face 5 times" as well as changing some of the text after receiving flak.
A work at home mom was at home with her children when an intruder broke into her house. She grabbed her children and hide in an upstairs crawl space while her husband who she called was calling 911.
The burglar eventually made it to the room she was in and discovered their hiding spot. This is when she shot 6 times with a .38 revolver hitting the intruder 5 times in the face and neck area. She and her children then ran to a neighbors house. The criminal was able to get up and attempt to flee but did not get far.
From that story MSNBC got this headline:"Trigger-Happy Atlanta mom shoots intruder in the face 5 times"
just FUCKING WOW!!!
It doesn't fit the MSNBC narrative. This woman was supposed to get raped and murdered and her kids slaughtered; so, they and the rest of the lefties can wail about more gun control.
Mom, pumping this intruder full of lead and actually saving herself and her kids, wasn't in the script.
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Maybe the Mom was a fan of horror films. You know how in a horror movie the bad guy always pops back up no matter how much damage he takes. She was just making sure he didn't revive for a sequel.
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THEY WERE IN A CRAWL SPACE YOU MORONS!!!
Im betting the dumb ass stuck his face down there to see what the fuck was going on and got what he deserved.
After she shot him and they were running out she stood over him telling him not to move or she would shoot again, not knowing she had emptied her gun with the first 6 shots.
She didnt stand over him and shoot him, 240 trying to make this another zimmerman case ::)
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http://now.msn.com/atlanta-mom-shoots-intruder-in-the-face-5-times
here you go you libtard conspiracy morons...
"The Loganville mother of two assumed the knocks on her front door Friday afternoon were from a solicitor.
“Don’t answer,” she yelled to her 9-year-old twins playing downstairs.
When the visitor began repeatedly ringing the doorbell, she called her husband at work.
“Get the kids and hide,” he told his wife.
As he dialed 911, his 37-year-old spouse, who works from home, collected the children and hid with them in a crawlspace adjoining her office. By that time, the intruder had forced his way into the three-story residence on Henderson Ridge Drive with a crowbar, authorities said. He allegedly rummaged through the home, eventually working his way up to the attic office.
“He opens the closet door and finds himself staring down the barrel of a .38 revolver,” said Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman, who relayed the woman’s narrative to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. He asked that her name be withheld.
The woman fired six bullets, five of which hit Paul Ali Slater in the face and neck area, Chapman said. But Slater was still conscious.
“The guy’s face down, crying,” the sheriff said. The woman told him to stay down or she’d shoot again.
Slater, unaware that she had emptied her chamber, obliged as the mother and her children ran to a neighbor’s house."
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i suspect they knew him...
don't understand why she didn't call 911 right away when he was ringing her doorbell... instead of taking 10 minutes to wait for him to break down the door, chat with her husband on the phone, get her gun which must have been stored safely because she's got kids, load it and wait for the intruder to stumble into her trap and then fire away without a single warning...
if the intruder was not armed this would likely lead to a manslaughter conviction in canada
first of all who fucking calls the cops when someone rings the fukcing doorbell?
second how do you know how long it took?
third WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GIVE A WARNING WHEN SOMEONE IS IN YOUR HOUSE AND YOUR TRYING TO DEFEND YOURSELF?
do you call the govt when you have a hang nail?
fourth and I really cannot stress this enough nobody gives a shit about what would have happend in canada or canada in general so you can keep that type of shit to yourself. I dont think anybody will be on jeopardy anytime soon and pick the category "stupid ass laws in canada"
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I am a bit confused. The same individuals who complained about theorizing to much about the Zimmerman case are doing a lot of theorizing about this woman.
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The Internet sleuths are at work victimizing the criminal and criminalizing the victim. Par the course.
Do any of the people claiming she stood over the man and tried to execute him have any proof?
Damn her for protecting herself and her kids!!!!!
Yeah... How horrible that she was in her own house... Maybe she should have gone to someone else's house and tried to shoot them.
::)
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first of all who fucking calls the cops when someone rings the fukcing doorbell?
second how do you know how long it took?
third WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GIVE A WARNING WHEN SOMEONE IS IN YOUR HOUSE AND YOUR TRYING TO DEFEND YOURSELF?
do you call the govt when you have a hang nail?
fourth and I really cannot stress this enough nobody gives a shit about what would have happend in canada or canada in general so you can keep that type of shit to yourself. I dont think anybody will be on jeopardy anytime soon and pick the category "stupid ass laws in canada"
note: when you say 'first' you do not need to add 'of all'... it's redundant
in reply to your posts:
first: if someone started to ring my doorbell like a manic i would shout through the door to let them know to go away... failing that i would press the alarm button on my home system (guard house is 50 feet from my door) before looking out the window to see if the person needed help, assuming they did not look like someone who needs help i would leave through the back door and go to the neighbors while calling 911
second: in my experience the 'things happened so fast' excuse is often caused by shock... in most critical situations there is a lot of time to make better choices but we fail to do so because we are in shock... don't know that this happened here, but based on the story, there must have been at least 2-3 minutes between the doorbell ringing and entry into the house and then even more time while the house was ransacked before the individual got to their hiding space
third: in canada it would be criminal to simply start shooting
fourth: you obviously do care since you feel the need to antagonize me
another reason i suspect they knew the criminal and there's more to the story:
what was his motivation to break in? not robbery: someone was home and it was taking too long. not rape: kids were there, broad daylight, doesn't make sense.
more to this story... determining motivation is a core part of understanding criminals
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note: when you say 'first' you do not need to add 'of all'... it's redundant
in reply to your posts:
first: if someone started to ring my doorbell like a manic i would shout through the door to let them know to go away... failing that i would press the alarm button on my home system (guard house is 50 feet from my door) before looking out the window to see if the person needed help, assuming they did not look like someone who needs help i would leave through the back door and go to the neighbors while calling 911
second: in my experience the 'things happened so fast' excuse is often caused by shock... in most critical situations there is a lot of time to make better choices but we fail to do so because we are in shock... don't know that this happened here, but based on the story, there must have been at least 2-3 minutes between the doorbell ringing and entry into the house and then even more time while the house was ransacked before the individual got to their hiding space
third: in canada it would be criminal to simply start shooting
fourth: you obviously do care since you feel the need to antagonize me
another reason i suspect they knew the criminal and there's more to the story:
what was his motivation to break in? not robbery: someone was home and it was taking too long. not rape: kids were there, broad daylight, doesn't make sense.
more to this story... determining motivation is a core part of understanding criminals
first OF AL, I agree but a women with her kids may not think the same way. She may think that she just need to grab her kids and get them to a safe place as this obviously isnt a normal situation.
second OF ALL what experience do you have? so your giving a minute or two before the criminal got in the the house. Not alot of time after getting her two kids round up and grabbing the gun. After he got in, what do you think she should have done, got in a shouting match with him or even better WARNED HIM??? maybe she should have got her 6 iron wrapped with black E-tape(to prevent shining in the dark) like you would have big hoss.
thir OF ALL in canada you have to give robbers a warning before shooting?
fourth OF ALL no I really dont care what a trolling canadian dumb ass thinks but of anybody should you be talking about antagonizing someone? you troll more than blacken
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first OF AL, I agree but a women with her kids may not think the same way. She may think that she just need to grab her kids and get them to a safe place as this obviously isnt a normal situation.
second OF ALL what experience do you have? so your giving a minute or two before the criminal got in the the house. Not alot of time after getting her two kids round up and grabbing the gun. After he got in, what do you think she should have done, got in a shouting match with him or even better WARNED HIM??? maybe she should have got her 6 iron wrapped with black E-tape(to prevent shining in the dark) like you would have big hoss.
thir OF ALL in canada you have to give robbers a warning before shooting?
fourth OF ALL no I really dont care what a trolling canadian dumb ass thinks but of anybody should you be talking about antagonizing someone? you troll more than blacken
note: you is this 'AL' you mentioned? ;D
1st: fair enough... but she took the time to find a lethal weapon which indicates forethought
2nd: i wouldn't relate this to myself... i would likely be able to defend myself without issue in a similar situation given my life experiences... i'm just pointing out that there may have been time to make better choices (20-20 hindsight)
3rd: shooting someone with provocation (lethal) would be considered manslaughter... i googled a quick example but there are many many more
The story: http://www.canada.com/story.html?id=7d0f6557-0141-4019-b7c5-de178a8dc073 (http://www.canada.com/story.html?id=7d0f6557-0141-4019-b7c5-de178a8dc073)
The sentence: http://edmontonremandcentre.blogspot.ca/ (http://edmontonremandcentre.blogspot.ca/)
4th: i am not trolling right now... tends to vary based on whether or not i've had a few beers... i'm far more patient when sober
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1st: fair enough... but she took the time to find a lethal weapon which indicates forethought
2nd: i wouldn't relate this to myself... i would likely be able to defend myself without issue in a similar situation given my life experiences... i'm just pointing out that there may have been time to make better choices (20-20 hindsight)
3rd: shooting someone with provocation (lethal) would be considered manslaughter... i googled a quick example but there are many many more
The story: http://www.canada.com/story.html?id=7d0f6557-0141-4019-b7c5-de178a8dc073 (http://www.canada.com/story.html?id=7d0f6557-0141-4019-b7c5-de178a8dc073)
The sentence: http://edmontonremandcentre.blogspot.ca/ (http://edmontonremandcentre.blogspot.ca/)
4th: i am not trolling right now... tends to vary based on whether or not i've had a few beers... i'm far more patient when sober
1st: Of course it shows forethought, AS IN WHAT HAPPENS IF HE GETS IN AND THERE IS NOBODY HERE TO PROTECT ME!!!
2nd: Again what life experiences? where you in the mighty canadian military? maybe the mounted police that are so vaunted?
3rd: Again you really dont seem to be grasping this, I SERIOUSLY DONT GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT ANYTHING PERTAINING TO CANADA...PERIOD!!!
4th: I didnt say you were right now only that you do so more than any other poster these days
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another reason i suspect they knew the criminal and there's more to the story:
what was his motivation to break in? not robbery: someone was home and it was taking too long. not rape: kids were there, broad daylight, doesn't make sense.
more to this story... determining motivation is a core part of understanding criminals
I doubt someone being home, particularly a woman, and there being children present would be much of a deterrent. A woman with children alone would not be viewed as much of a threat. Women, children and couples are often the subject of home invasions. In crimes like home invasion, a house is scoped out for an extended period of time to determine the schedule of the family and it is possible the attacker might have done that in this case.
Knowing that the male of the house, the true threat, was not present he seized the opportunity to attack. I wonder if the house was in a rural area. If this is the case, I bet the perpetrator had been watching the house for some time waiting for the opportunity. Or it might have been a random home invasion.
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1st: Of course it shows forethought, AS IN WHAT HAPPENS IF HE GETS IN AND THERE IS NOBODY HERE TO PROTECT ME!!!
2nd: Again what life experiences? where you in the mighty canadian military? maybe the mounted police that are so vaunted?
3rd: Again you really dont seem to be grasping this, I SERIOUSLY DONT GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT ANYTHING PERTAINING TO CANADA...PERIOD!!!
4th: I didnt say you were right now only that you do so more than any other poster these days
1st: maybe... again, hopefully we'll find out more through the police investigation
2nd: i'd rather not get into an internet pissing match
3rd: fine, but my life experiences shape my perspective
4th: welcome to the internet, sorry that it offends your sensitivities (sincerely)
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I doubt someone being home, particularly a woman, and there being children present would be much of a deterrent. A woman with children alone would not be viewed as much of a threat. Women, children and couples are often the subject of home invasions. In crimes like home invasion, a house is scoped out for an extended period of time to determine the schedule of the family and it is possible the attacker might have done that in this case.
Knowing that the male of the house, the true threat, was not present he seized the opportunity to attack. I wonder if the house was in a rural area. If this is the case, I bet the perpetrator had been watching the house for some time waiting for the opportunity. Or it might have been a random home invasion.
seriously... how common is this?
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1st: maybe... again, hopefully we'll find out more through the police investigation
2nd: i'd rather not get into an internet pissing match
3rd: fine, but my life experiences shape my perspective
4th: welcome to the internet, sorry that it offends your sensitivities (sincerely)
1. Maybe, so there needs to be a police investigation to prove that a person grabbing a gun when a stranger person is breaking into their house is justified? LFMAO
2. No pissing match necessary, youre a fraud, a phoney with little to no real world experience in fights or defending yourself.
3. Refer to number 2.
4. Refer to number 3.
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I bet this lady drug some random guy into her house just to shoot him in the face.
Women are evil, evil creatures.
::)
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seriously... how common is this?
you do realize that burglary is technically a home invasion, right?
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I bet this lady drug some random guy into her house just to shoot him in the face.
Women are evil, evil creatures.
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no doubt found some innocent canadian tourists tricked him into her house with the promise of snow cones and crabs(or whatever the fuck those ppl eat) kicked him in the nads and then stood over him and shot him 5 times in the face then just to make her story more believable intentionally missed with one shot.
scandelous bitch she is
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Bloomberg supposedly contacted the Mayor of the woman's City to see if her gun was legally registered. If not, he wants her prosecuted for attempted murder. Otherwise, it will send the wrong message to criminals that break into peoples houses. They have rights too.
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Bloomberg supposedly contacted the Mayor of the woman's City to see if her gun was legally registered. If not, he wants her prosecuted for attempted murder. Otherwise, it will send the wrong message to criminals that break into peoples houses. They have rights too.
Are you being serious?
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;D
No. But your question is a testament to how unbelievably stupid and delusional our elected officials are. It wouldn't shock me if Bloomberg did something like that.
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Bloomberg supposedly contacted the Mayor of the woman's City to see if her gun was legally registered. If not, he wants her prosecuted for attempted murder. Otherwise, it will send the wrong message to criminals that break into peoples houses. They have rights too.
LOL please tell me this is a joke so I dont feel bad for laughing
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;D
No. But your question is a testament to how unbelievably stupid and delusional our elected officials are. It wouldn't shock me if Bloomberg did something like that.
The reality is that I don't put anything past any of these idiots anymore.
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The thought that someone would be against what this mother did makes me wanna fucking puke. And people like woo, from another country, have no right to say it was wrong.
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LOL please tell me this is a joke so I dont feel bad for laughing
I thought it was a joke too but knowing bloomberg he probably really tried to do that... ::)
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most likely the bitches fault for not answering the door. lmao. people usually dont try to rob a house when people are home. you go ring the doorbell and wait. if nobody answers, ring again. no answer, ring a million times. if nobody answers after you do that, then its usually safe to go ahead and break in. this method is used by thiefs who arent looking to hurt anybody and arent looking to get caught either.
btw, not buying the story that she hit the dude 5 times to the face and neck before he fell to the ground. that just sounds completely impluasible.
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The thought that someone would be against what this mother did makes me wanna fucking puke. And people like woo, from another country, have no right to say it was wrong.
i didn't say it was wrong... i said that in canada she would likely be prosecuted for manslaughter
most likely the bitches fault for not answering the door. lmao. people usually dont try to rob a house when people are home. you go ring the doorbell and wait. if nobody answers, ring again. no answer, ring a million times. if nobody answers after you do that, then its usually safe to go ahead and break in. this method is used by thiefs who arent looking to hurt anybody and arent looking to get caught either.
that's my understanding of the typical burglary process
btw, not buying the story that she hit the dude 5 times to the face and neck before he fell to the ground. that just sounds completely impluasible.
it was the first thing that came to my mind... again without wanting to get into a pissing contest i did a lot of target shooting as a younger man... a 38 revolver is not considered a highly accurate weapon... even with training in a stressful situation from a crawl space (not a good shooting stance) even at close range you will not score 5/6 on target...
there's more to this story but the right wing will immediately use this as leverage against the president showing that no matter how many other clearly preventable deaths occur due to handguns in home with children this one case of possible heroism makes up for any 'unfortunate' situations where more guns would have made everybody safer.
http://www.iansa.org/news/2012/03/us-over-3000-children-killed-by-guns-every-year (http://www.iansa.org/news/2012/03/us-over-3000-children-killed-by-guns-every-year)
"Just over 3,000 children are killed and 17,500 are injured by guns every year in the US, according to the blog site ‘Kid shootings’, run by members of Ceasefire Oregon Education Foundation, Protect Minnesota and States United to Prevent Gun Violence. "
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Canada is a nanny state - hope that helps.
i didn't say it was wrong... i said that in canada she would likely be prosecuted for manslaughter
that's my understanding of the typical burglary process
it was the first thing that came to my mind... again without wanting to get into a pissing contest i did a lot of target shooting as a younger man... a 38 revolver is not considered a highly accurate weapon... even with training in a stressful situation from a crawl space (not a good shooting stance) even at close range you will not score 5/6 on target...
there's more to this story but the right wing will immediately use this as leverage against the president showing that no matter how many other clearly preventable deaths occur due to handguns in home with children this one case of possible heroism makes up for any 'unfortunate' situations where more guns would have made everybody safer.
http://www.iansa.org/news/2012/03/us-over-3000-children-killed-by-guns-every-year (http://www.iansa.org/news/2012/03/us-over-3000-children-killed-by-guns-every-year)
"Just over 3,000 children are killed and 17,500 are injured by guns every year in the US, according to the blog site ‘Kid shootings’, run by members of Ceasefire Oregon Education Foundation, Protect Minnesota and States United to Prevent Gun Violence. "
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Canada is a nanny state - hope that helps.
i understand that you are using the term 'nanny state' in the pejorative sense but the term's british origin was far less negative... some nanny is a good thing
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it was the first thing that came to my mind... again without wanting to get into a pissing contest i did a lot of target shooting as a younger man... a 38 revolver is not considered a highly accurate weapon... even with training in a stressful situation from a crawl space (not a good shooting stance) even at close range you will not score 5/6 on target...
LMFAO so thats your experience, target shooting as a child? whoa look out everybody!!!
so you dont think that you can hit a neck and head sized area from 3 feet away? I gotta tell you bro I see why you gave up target shooting.
I can tell you from personal experience as well that your little 6 iron with the shaft wrapped with E-Tape(to prevent shining in the dark) wont do shit against a person whos determined to do you harm, especially anybody with any type of training in how to handle themselves in a physical altercation.
better get back to the range and practice that shooting and I dont mean the driving range hoss.
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LMFAO so thats your experience, target shooting as a child? whoa look out everybody!!!
so you dont think that you can hit a neck and head sized area from 3 feet away? I gotta tell you bro I see why you gave up target shooting.
I can tell you from personal experience as well that your little 6 iron with the shaft wrapped with E-Tape(to prevent shining in the dark) wont do shit against a person whos determined to do you harm, especially anybody with any type of training in how to handle themselves in a physical altercation.
better get back to the range and practice that shooting and I dont mean the driving range hoss.
even the minor recoil from a 38 would make it hard to put repeated shots on a target... especially if she was shooting rapidly in a panic as the story would suggest
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I usually side with the foreigners on these matters, im European myself.
But in this case i support the woman.
She could have shot him 300 times for all i care. He broke into her house and her kids lives were in danger.
She did the right thing.
Your kids lives > some random thug
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I usually side with the foreigners on these matters, im European myself.
But in this case i support the woman.
She could have shot him 300 times for all i care. He broke into her house and her kids lives were in danger.
She did the right thing.
Your kids lives > some random thug
What euro mess are you from.
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What euro mess are you from.
Denmark.
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even the minor recoil from a 38 would make it hard to put repeated shots on a target... especially if she was shooting rapidly in a panic as the story would suggest
It was a revolver which means double action which inherently slows down the time between shots. They were in a crawl space in a closet which means the criminal was at most 3 feet away and that's I'd he was in the doorway an not in the closet and her arms weren't extended.
The more you talk the more I realize you know basically nothing about guns and self defense
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fourth and I really cannot stress this enough nobody gives a shit about what would have happend in canada or canada in general so you can keep that type of shit to yourself. I dont think anybody will be on jeopardy anytime soon and pick the category "stupid ass laws in canada"
;D
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It was a revolver which means double action which inherently slows down the time between shots. They were in a crawl space in a closet which means the criminal was at most 3 feet away and that's I'd he was in the doorway an not in the closet and her arms weren't extended.
The more you talk the more I realize you know basically nothing about guns and self defense
You dont to know anything about guns and selfdefence. This is logic.
You and your kids lives or a Thugs? Its a no-brainer.
Its a shame she didnt kill him now taxpayers has to feed this creep.
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You dont to know anything about guns and selfdefence. This is logic.
You and your kids lives or a Thugs? Its a no-brainer.
Its a shame she didnt kill him now taxpayers has to feed this creep.
Ususally I think we should move to more liberal drug laws, but then some posters from those countries come here and post and I consider my position to severe re-evaluation.
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most likely the bitches fault for not answering the door. lmao. people usually dont try to rob a house when people are home. you go ring the doorbell and wait. if nobody answers, ring again. no answer, ring a million times. if nobody answers after you do that, then its usually safe to go ahead and break in. this method is used by thiefs who arent looking to hurt anybody and arent looking to get caught either.
btw, not buying the story that she hit the dude 5 times to the face and neck before he fell to the ground. that just sounds completely impluasible.
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most likely the bitches fault for not answering the door. lmao. people usually dont try to rob a house when people are home. you go ring the doorbell and wait. if nobody answers, ring again. no answer, ring a million times. if nobody answers after you do that, then its usually safe to go ahead and break in. this method is used by thiefs who arent looking to hurt anybody and arent looking to get caught either.
btw, not buying the story that she hit the dude 5 times to the face and neck before he fell to the ground. that just sounds completely impluasible.
Go back to bed
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Go back to bed
Obviously it's her fault he broke in for not answering the door.
::)
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Go back to bed
sorry for disturbing your preconceptions 3333.. ;D
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sorry for disturbing your preconceptions 3333.. ;D
Yeah its her fault he broke in. ::) ::)
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Yeah its her fault he broke in. ::) ::)
not quite, but if she would have answered the door i think the dude would have moved on to the next house and no one need get frightened in their own home or murdered.
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not quite, but if she would have answered the door i think the dude would have moved on to the next house and no one need get frightened in their own home or murdered.
Didn't your mother teach you to not open the door for strangers when you were a kid?
She had a reason for that you know.
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not quite, but if she would have answered the door i think the dude would have moved on to the next house and no one need get frightened in their own home or murdered.
How do you know that?
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Didn't your mother teach you to not open the door for strangers when you were a kid?
She had a reason for that you know.
sounds like a good rule for a 6 year old when home alone. sounds like a real sketchy rule for an adult.
How do you know that?
burglars usually dont rob homes while people are in them, not by choice at least. they ring the doorbell to see if anyone is home. if theres no answer after several rings then they assume no one is inside and proceed to break in. thats for their own safety and also for the safety of the homeowner as well. just cuz someone is a thief doesnt mean they are violent as well. lots of people just looking for some cash and dont want to hurt anybody. look for empty homes to rob by ringing the doorbell.
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sounds like a good rule for a 6 year old when home alone. sounds like a real sketchy rule for an adult.
burglars usually dont rob homes while people are in them, not by choice at least. they ring the doorbell to see if anyone is home. if theres no answer after several rings then they assume no one is inside and proceed to break in. thats for their own safety and also for the safety of the homeowner as well. just cuz someone is a thief doesnt mean they are violent as well. lots of people just looking for some cash and dont want to hurt anybody. look for empty homes to rob by ringing the doorbell.
You don't know what he came into the house to do.
He may have been ringing the door for quicker access to hurt them.
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Fuck MSN.
That's not necessarily MSNBC is it?
no it is not
but then why would a detail like that matter on this board
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no it is not
but then why would a detail like that matter on this board
If it didn't matter, then I wouldn't have mentioned it.
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If it didn't matter, then I wouldn't have mentioned it.
and you mentioned it on page 1 and still the person who started this thread hasn't bothered to correct the error
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not quite, but if she would have answered the door i think the dude would have moved on to the next house and no one need get frightened in their own home or murdered.
goodness drizzle youre reverting back to you idiotic ways.
Who cares if she didnt answer the door, she though they were a solicitor. I dont always answer the door when ppl knock as I dont know them either.
In what FUCKED UP world view does this woman hold any responsibility for not opening the door?
The criminal shouldnt have broke into her house, point blank end of story...
Who said she shot him 5 times before he hit the ground? he could have fell back and she kept shooting from her crawl space...OR as they were in a crawl space maybe he bent down to look and presented his face to get shot, if he fell he likely would have fallen right there and I for one would have shot him mulitple times too.
youre an idiot if you feel this woman has any culpability in this at all.
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of course its not her fault!
but she most likely was a dumb bitch who should have just answered the door or told him to go away instead of pretending no one was home, and she most likely was a dumb bitch who stood over him while he was already dead and fired a few rounds into his skull "for good measure".
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of course its not her fault!
but she most likely was a dumb bitch who should have just answered the door or told him to go away instead of pretending no one was home, and she most likely was a dumb bitch who stood over him while he was already dead and fired a few rounds into his skull "for good measure".
The only dumb bitch in this conversation is YOU.
You are basically saying that because she didn't want to open her fucking front door that she invited him to enter her house.
I can not believe you are even saying this shit... I used to think you were misguided but alright... Now I just think you're a buffoon.
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of course its not her fault!
but she most likely was a dumb bitch who should have just answered the door or told him to go away instead of pretending no one was home, and she most likely was a dumb bitch who stood over him while he was already dead and fired a few rounds into his skull "for good measure".
yea and if this dumb mother fucker wouldnt have decided to break the law and break into her house none of this shit would have happend either.
But you want to focus on the mom?
even if she had answered the door this guy would have just moved on to another house. Maybe the next house he broke into the stay at home mom doesnt have a gun. What you think he is just going to say "my bad" and leave?
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http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/01/06/atlanta-mother-shoots-intruder-five-times-in-self-defense/ (http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/01/06/atlanta-mother-shoots-intruder-five-times-in-self-defense/)
reading the comments to the linked story leads me to believe that american'ts think they live in a hollywood movie...
a man was shot 5 times, a mother and her kids were terrorized... there is nothing good in this story... the questions should be about what's wrong in american't... why do people feel the need to glorify guns to protect themselves from criminals and why people are driven to commit crime
Norman Rea · Life
Ron it was probably a 38 spec. The media does not know the pproper nomenclature. I think this mom ought to be poster woman for why dianne feinstein is out of touch.
Reply · 7 · · Sunday at 7:34pm
Reddog Woods · Indiana State University
The 2nd Amendment is why we're reading about a Mother who protected her babies and not another traggic story of abuse, rape and death.........jus sayin........
Reply · 5 · · Sunday at 10:15pm
Jeff Schmitz
The lesson here is always be ready to protect yourself and time to rethink the caliber you have to do so.
Reply · 4 · · Sunday at 7:29pm
Ricky Linn
Too bad she didn't have a 44 mag
Reply · 3 · · 21 hours ago
Brad Huskey
Your damn skippy she did the right thing ,, things like this make me made , pick on me I'm a grown man !!! Don't mess with woman and children .. How's that feel punk ? You feel tough now !!
Reply · 2 · · 23 hours ago
Joe Barron · Tyler, Texas
Thats cool
Reply · 1 · · 10 hours ago
Tony Chopyak
These are the stories u usually don't get to hear and this happen more than we think
Reply · 2 · · Yesterday at 4:23am
Larry Moran · David Douglas High School
Way to go mom my wife would do the same thing for our kids
Reply · 2 · · Sunday at 8:53pm
Gina-Steve Davis · Vernon, New Jersey
Way to go mom!
Reply · 2 · · Sunday at 7:17pm
Ron Wheeler · Redmond, Oregon
I bet the SOB got free medical attention! Just remember what mother did, HEAD SHOTSif you have a.38 He is damn lucky it was a.38 and not.38 Special or.357. Would not need medical attention. A.38 has not stopping power in the body.
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 7:23pm
Rob Gray
Actually Ronald, a .38 has plenty of stopping power with today's ammunition. We don't know what kind of ammo she was using. Also, I would suggest center mass shots instead of trying to hit someone in the head. Unless of course you're so proficient with your handguns that you could shoot hair off a gnat's behind. What I'm saying is, when your blood is pumping and your adrenaline is pumping sometimes aiming is NOT your first thought, aim for center mass. It's a larger target. Good job citizen, you protected yourself and your children!
Reply · 8 · · Sunday at 7:30pm
Ron Wheeler · Redmond, Oregon
Have to be with so much armor floating around. You have your own choice at the time of your situation. I was refering to a home intrusion where distance is short. I always trained center mass but today? Equally comfortable with both. Thanks for the input. Like you said, what ammo was in the revolver? To hit 5 times and not much damage? He still drove away.
Reply · 1 · · 21 hours ago
Marc Johns
"I bet he thinks five times before he tries that again!" "Four waisted rounds."
Reply · 1 · · 19 hours ago
Radhames Tejeda · Top Commenter · Boston, Massachusetts
Mom 1, crook 0.
Now I am afraid when this crook gets out of jail. Restitution?
Reply · 1 · · 17 hours ago
Janet Pohl Powell · Top Commenter
Come into my house and you're fair game. Way to go to this Mom.
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 8:57pm
Da Vida
This is the kind of gun story we like to hear!
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 8:18pm
Steve Suppes · Keizer, Oregon
Hell yeah!!!!!!!!!
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 8:12pm
Michael Wenze · Hamilton, Ontario
All about the type of weapon...Idiot Americans...Was it just luck that she managed to hit the guy in the face and neck FIVE times without killing him? Not many "lucky" African Americans. What kind of training did she have? I'll bet she didn't have a CCL...but if she had a "more than 10 round clip...she might have finished the job. Duh....She's an unlucky white person in my opinion...probably a waitress.
Reply · · 11 hours ago
Sharon Hyatt Wyser · Top Commenter · Virginia Beach School of Practical Nursing
5 bullets was a good start.
Reply · · 22 hours ago
Joshua J. Kram · Internship at United States Forest Service
that's awesome
Reply · · Sunday at 10:09pm
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http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/01/06/atlanta-mother-shoots-intruder-five-times-in-self-defense/ (http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/01/06/atlanta-mother-shoots-intruder-five-times-in-self-defense/)
reading the comments to the linked story leads me to believe that american'ts think they live in a hollywood movie...
a man was shot 5 times, a mother and her kids were terrorized... there is nothing good in this story... the questions should be about what's wrong in american't... why do people feel the need to glorify guns to protect themselves from criminals and why people are driven to commit crime
Norman Rea · Life
Ron it was probably a 38 spec. The media does not know the pproper nomenclature. I think this mom ought to be poster woman for why dianne feinstein is out of touch.
Reply · 7 · · Sunday at 7:34pm
Reddog Woods · Indiana State University
The 2nd Amendment is why we're reading about a Mother who protected her babies and not another traggic story of abuse, rape and death.........jus sayin........
Reply · 5 · · Sunday at 10:15pm
Jeff Schmitz
The lesson here is always be ready to protect yourself and time to rethink the caliber you have to do so.
Reply · 4 · · Sunday at 7:29pm
Ricky Linn
Too bad she didn't have a 44 mag
Reply · 3 · · 21 hours ago
Brad Huskey
Your damn skippy she did the right thing ,, things like this make me made , pick on me I'm a grown man !!! Don't mess with woman and children .. How's that feel punk ? You feel tough now !!
Reply · 2 · · 23 hours ago
Joe Barron · Tyler, Texas
Thats cool
Reply · 1 · · 10 hours ago
Tony Chopyak
These are the stories u usually don't get to hear and this happen more than we think
Reply · 2 · · Yesterday at 4:23am
Larry Moran · David Douglas High School
Way to go mom my wife would do the same thing for our kids
Reply · 2 · · Sunday at 8:53pm
Gina-Steve Davis · Vernon, New Jersey
Way to go mom!
Reply · 2 · · Sunday at 7:17pm
Ron Wheeler · Redmond, Oregon
I bet the SOB got free medical attention! Just remember what mother did, HEAD SHOTSif you have a.38 He is damn lucky it was a.38 and not.38 Special or.357. Would not need medical attention. A.38 has not stopping power in the body.
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 7:23pm
Rob Gray
Actually Ronald, a .38 has plenty of stopping power with today's ammunition. We don't know what kind of ammo she was using. Also, I would suggest center mass shots instead of trying to hit someone in the head. Unless of course you're so proficient with your handguns that you could shoot hair off a gnat's behind. What I'm saying is, when your blood is pumping and your adrenaline is pumping sometimes aiming is NOT your first thought, aim for center mass. It's a larger target. Good job citizen, you protected yourself and your children!
Reply · 8 · · Sunday at 7:30pm
Ron Wheeler · Redmond, Oregon
Have to be with so much armor floating around. You have your own choice at the time of your situation. I was refering to a home intrusion where distance is short. I always trained center mass but today? Equally comfortable with both. Thanks for the input. Like you said, what ammo was in the revolver? To hit 5 times and not much damage? He still drove away.
Reply · 1 · · 21 hours ago
Marc Johns
"I bet he thinks five times before he tries that again!" "Four waisted rounds."
Reply · 1 · · 19 hours ago
Radhames Tejeda · Top Commenter · Boston, Massachusetts
Mom 1, crook 0.
Now I am afraid when this crook gets out of jail. Restitution?
Reply · 1 · · 17 hours ago
Janet Pohl Powell · Top Commenter
Come into my house and you're fair game. Way to go to this Mom.
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 8:57pm
Da Vida
This is the kind of gun story we like to hear!
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 8:18pm
Steve Suppes · Keizer, Oregon
Hell yeah!!!!!!!!!
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 8:12pm
Michael Wenze · Hamilton, Ontario
All about the type of weapon...Idiot Americans...Was it just luck that she managed to hit the guy in the face and neck FIVE times without killing him? Not many "lucky" African Americans. What kind of training did she have? I'll bet she didn't have a CCL...but if she had a "more than 10 round clip...she might have finished the job. Duh....She's an unlucky white person in my opinion...probably a waitress.
Reply · · 11 hours ago
Sharon Hyatt Wyser · Top Commenter · Virginia Beach School of Practical Nursing
5 bullets was a good start.
Reply · · 22 hours ago
Joshua J. Kram · Internship at United States Forest Service
that's awesome
Reply · · Sunday at 10:09pm
http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/01/06/atlanta-mother-shoots-intruder-five-times-in-self-defense/ (http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/01/06/atlanta-mother-shoots-intruder-five-times-in-self-defense/)
reading the comments to the linked story leads me to believe that american'ts think they live in a hollywood movie...
a man was shot 5 times, a mother and her kids were terrorized... there is nothing good in this story... the questions should be about what's wrong in american't... why do people feel the need to glorify guns to protect themselves from criminals and why people are driven to commit crime
Norman Rea · Life
Ron it was probably a 38 spec. The media does not know the pproper nomenclature. I think this mom ought to be poster woman for why dianne feinstein is out of touch.
Reply · 7 · · Sunday at 7:34pm
Reddog Woods · Indiana State University
The 2nd Amendment is why we're reading about a Mother who protected her babies and not another traggic story of abuse, rape and death.........jus sayin........
Reply · 5 · · Sunday at 10:15pm
Jeff Schmitz
The lesson here is always be ready to protect yourself and time to rethink the caliber you have to do so.
Reply · 4 · · Sunday at 7:29pm
Ricky Linn
Too bad she didn't have a 44 mag
Reply · 3 · · 21 hours ago
Brad Huskey
Your damn skippy she did the right thing ,, things like this make me made , pick on me I'm a grown man !!! Don't mess with woman and children .. How's that feel punk ? You feel tough now !!
Reply · 2 · · 23 hours ago
Joe Barron · Tyler, Texas
Thats cool
Reply · 1 · · 10 hours ago
Tony Chopyak
These are the stories u usually don't get to hear and this happen more than we think
Reply · 2 · · Yesterday at 4:23am
Larry Moran · David Douglas High School
Way to go mom my wife would do the same thing for our kids
Reply · 2 · · Sunday at 8:53pm
Gina-Steve Davis · Vernon, New Jersey
Way to go mom!
Reply · 2 · · Sunday at 7:17pm
Ron Wheeler · Redmond, Oregon
I bet the SOB got free medical attention! Just remember what mother did, HEAD SHOTSif you have a.38 He is damn lucky it was a.38 and not.38 Special or.357. Would not need medical attention. A.38 has not stopping power in the body.
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 7:23pm
Rob Gray
Actually Ronald, a .38 has plenty of stopping power with today's ammunition. We don't know what kind of ammo she was using. Also, I would suggest center mass shots instead of trying to hit someone in the head. Unless of course you're so proficient with your handguns that you could shoot hair off a gnat's behind. What I'm saying is, when your blood is pumping and your adrenaline is pumping sometimes aiming is NOT your first thought, aim for center mass. It's a larger target. Good job citizen, you protected yourself and your children!
Reply · 8 · · Sunday at 7:30pm
Ron Wheeler · Redmond, Oregon
Have to be with so much armor floating around. You have your own choice at the time of your situation. I was refering to a home intrusion where distance is short. I always trained center mass but today? Equally comfortable with both. Thanks for the input. Like you said, what ammo was in the revolver? To hit 5 times and not much damage? He still drove away.
Reply · 1 · · 21 hours ago
Marc Johns
"I bet he thinks five times before he tries that again!" "Four waisted rounds."
Reply · 1 · · 19 hours ago
Radhames Tejeda · Top Commenter · Boston, Massachusetts
Mom 1, crook 0.
Now I am afraid when this crook gets out of jail. Restitution?
Reply · 1 · · 17 hours ago
Janet Pohl Powell · Top Commenter
Come into my house and you're fair game. Way to go to this Mom.
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 8:57pm
Da Vida
This is the kind of gun story we like to hear!
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 8:18pm
Steve Suppes · Keizer, Oregon
Hell yeah!!!!!!!!!
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 8:12pm
Michael Wenze · Hamilton, Ontario
All about the type of weapon...Idiot Americans...Was it just luck that she managed to hit the guy in the face and neck FIVE times without killing him? Not many "lucky" African Americans. What kind of training did she have? I'll bet she didn't have a CCL...but if she had a "more than 10 round clip...she might have finished the job. Duh....She's an unlucky white person in my opinion...probably a waitress.
Reply · · 11 hours ago
Sharon Hyatt Wyser · Top Commenter · Virginia Beach School of Practical Nursing
5 bullets was a good start.
Reply · · 22 hours ago
Joshua J. Kram · Internship at United States Forest Service
that's awesome
Reply · · Sunday at 10:09pm
http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/01/06/atlanta-mother-shoots-intruder-five-times-in-self-defense/ (http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/01/06/atlanta-mother-shoots-intruder-five-times-in-self-defense/)
reading the comments to the linked story leads me to believe that american'ts think they live in a hollywood movie...
a man was shot 5 times, a mother and her kids were terrorized... there is nothing good in this story... the questions should be about what's wrong in american't... why do people feel the need to glorify guns to protect themselves from criminals and why people are driven to commit crime
Norman Rea · Life
Ron it was probably a 38 spec. The media does not know the pproper nomenclature. I think this mom ought to be poster woman for why dianne feinstein is out of touch.
Reply · 7 · · Sunday at 7:34pm
Reddog Woods · Indiana State University
The 2nd Amendment is why we're reading about a Mother who protected her babies and not another traggic story of abuse, rape and death.........jus sayin........
Reply · 5 · · Sunday at 10:15pm
Jeff Schmitz
The lesson here is always be ready to protect yourself and time to rethink the caliber you have to do so.
Reply · 4 · · Sunday at 7:29pm
Ricky Linn
Too bad she didn't have a 44 mag
Reply · 3 · · 21 hours ago
Brad Huskey
Your damn skippy she did the right thing ,, things like this make me made , pick on me I'm a grown man !!! Don't mess with woman and children .. How's that feel punk ? You feel tough now !!
Reply · 2 · · 23 hours ago
Joe Barron · Tyler, Texas
Thats cool
Reply · 1 · · 10 hours ago
Tony Chopyak
These are the stories u usually don't get to hear and this happen more than we think
Reply · 2 · · Yesterday at 4:23am
Larry Moran · David Douglas High School
Way to go mom my wife would do the same thing for our kids
Reply · 2 · · Sunday at 8:53pm
Gina-Steve Davis · Vernon, New Jersey
Way to go mom!
Reply · 2 · · Sunday at 7:17pm
Ron Wheeler · Redmond, Oregon
I bet the SOB got free medical attention! Just remember what mother did, HEAD SHOTSif you have a.38 He is damn lucky it was a.38 and not.38 Special or.357. Would not need medical attention. A.38 has not stopping power in the body.
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 7:23pm
Rob Gray
Actually Ronald, a .38 has plenty of stopping power with today's ammunition. We don't know what kind of ammo she was using. Also, I would suggest center mass shots instead of trying to hit someone in the head. Unless of course you're so proficient with your handguns that you could shoot hair off a gnat's behind. What I'm saying is, when your blood is pumping and your adrenaline is pumping sometimes aiming is NOT your first thought, aim for center mass. It's a larger target. Good job citizen, you protected yourself and your children!
Reply · 8 · · Sunday at 7:30pm
Ron Wheeler · Redmond, Oregon
Have to be with so much armor floating around. You have your own choice at the time of your situation. I was refering to a home intrusion where distance is short. I always trained center mass but today? Equally comfortable with both. Thanks for the input. Like you said, what ammo was in the revolver? To hit 5 times and not much damage? He still drove away.
Reply · 1 · · 21 hours ago
Marc Johns
"I bet he thinks five times before he tries that again!" "Four waisted rounds."
Reply · 1 · · 19 hours ago
Radhames Tejeda · Top Commenter · Boston, Massachusetts
Mom 1, crook 0.
Now I am afraid when this crook gets out of jail. Restitution?
Reply · 1 · · 17 hours ago
Janet Pohl Powell · Top Commenter
Come into my house and you're fair game. Way to go to this Mom.
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 8:57pm
Da Vida
This is the kind of gun story we like to hear!
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 8:18pm
Steve Suppes · Keizer, Oregon
Hell yeah!!!!!!!!!
Reply · 1 · · Sunday at 8:12pm
Michael Wenze · Hamilton, Ontario
All about the type of weapon...Idiot Americans...Was it just luck that she managed to hit the guy in the face and neck FIVE times without killing him? Not many "lucky" African Americans. What kind of training did she have? I'll bet she didn't have a CCL...but if she had a "more than 10 round clip...she might have finished the job. Duh....She's an unlucky white person in my opinion...probably a waitress.
Reply · · 11 hours ago
Sharon Hyatt Wyser · Top Commenter · Virginia Beach School of Practical Nursing
5 bullets was a good start.
Reply · · 22 hours ago
Joshua J. Kram · Internship at United States Forest Service
that's awesome
Reply · · Sunday at 10:09pm
Reading your posts tells me you have little experience with guns and none in physical altercations.
Nobody is glorifying it they are just pointing it out for the idiots who feel guns are inherently evil.
If you really think that 6 iron with the shaft wrapped with E-tape to prevent it from shining in the dark is going to protect you you're a bigger moron than even I gave you credit for and that's mind boggling. Worse if you feel that this is an isolated incident and doesn't happen often or won't ever happen to you you're just plain ignorant.
Maybe you should nut up and use your driver, if it has a graphite shaft at least you won't have to tape it ;)
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of course its not her fault!
but she most likely was a dumb bitch who should have just answered the door or told him to go away instead of pretending no one was home, and she most likely was a dumb bitch who stood over him while he was already dead and fired a few rounds into his skull "for good measure".
I don't think opening the door would have been the best choice.
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Reading your posts tells me you have little experience with guns and none in physical altercations.
Nobody is glorifying it they are just pointing it out for the idiots who feel guns are inherently evil.
If you really think that 6 iron with the shaft wrapped with E-tape to prevent it from shining in the dark is going to protect you you're a bigger moron than even I gave you credit for and that's mind boggling. Worse if you feel that this is an isolated incident and doesn't happen often or won't ever happen to you you're just plain ignorant.
Maybe you should nut up and use your driver, if it has a graphite shaft at least you won't have to tape it ;)
You don't know me from Adam.
Queue the Hollywood song.
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You don't know me from Adam.
Queue the Hollywood song.
I know only an idiot thinks that a 6 iron with E-tape on the shaft feels he can defend himself against criminals bent on harming him.
Talk about Hollywood delusions, how many times have you watched Conan you dumb ass? Are you gonna burst out of your bedroom and slay all the evil doers with your mighty 6 iron?
Lmfao what a tool
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I know only an idiot thinks that a 6 iron with E-tape on the shaft feels he can defend himself against criminals bent on harming him.
Talk about Hollywood delusions, how many times have you watched Conan you dumb ass? Are you gonna burst out of your bedroom and slay all the evil doers with your mighty 6 iron?
Lmfao what a tool
A woman w a golf club is not doing squat against a determined male attacker
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A woman w a golf club is not doing squat against a determined male attacker
imagine confronting even an unarmed intruder in a hallway with a golf club where your only options are to come over the top or just jab at him. There isn't room to swing from side to side, if you get back into a wall you can't wind up...
But don't worry Woo will simply cut the man in half with his powerful swing and mighty 6 iron
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imagine confronting even an unarmed intruder in a hallway with a golf club where your only options are to come over the top or just jab at him. There isn't room to swing from side to side, if you get back into a wall you can't wind up...
But don't worry Woo will simply cut the man in half with his powerful swing and mighty 6 iron
All the guy has to do is close the distance and its over. The guy can then use the club over her throat to choke her.
WOO is a typical leftist dreamer not remotely connected to common sense or reality.
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i think its pretty rare you see someone get shot 5 times in the face. especially if they were only shot in self defense and the person who shot them was using a semi automatic.
its obvious the woman shot the guy once, maybe twice, in the head ; and then after he dropped dead to the floor she walked up to his dead body, stood over him, and shot him in the face 3-4 times more.
thats the story here guys.
isnt that easy to see?
wrong. he ran out of the house
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Without any other consideration at all, you have to realize that the guy was alive and conscious, and still a threat. That's just to start.
As the story stands, the woman could have unloaded an entire hi-cap into the guy's forehead, and it would have been perfectly understandable.
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The only dumb bitch in this conversation is YOU.
You are basically saying that because she didn't want to open her fucking front door that she invited him to enter her house.
I can not believe you are even saying this shit... I used to think you were misguided but alright... Now I just think you're a buffoon.
you sure can twist words, cant you. lmao.
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yea and if this dumb mother fucker wouldnt have decided to break the law and break into her house none of this shit would have happend either.
But you want to focus on the mom?
even if she had answered the door this guy would have just moved on to another house. Maybe the next house he broke into the stay at home mom doesnt have a gun. What you think he is just going to say "my bad" and leave?
i think she probably would have answered the door too. and if she didnt, and he broke in and she was unarmed, i would hope she would scream and if she did that the robber would most likely run out of the house.
thiefs dont want to hurt anybody they just want to get money.
who do you think got the short end of the stick ? the mom whose house was broken into by an unarmed man because she couldnt answer the door , or the robber who got shot 5 times in the face without even being armed or trying to hurt anybody?
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you sure can twist words, cant you. lmao.
I'm not twisting anything... These are the things you are saying... Not me.
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i think she probably would have answered the door too. and if she didnt, and he broke in and she was unarmed, i would hope she would scream and if she did that the robber would most likely run out of the house.
thiefs dont want to hurt anybody they just want to get money.
who do you think got the short end of the stick ? the mom whose house was broken into by an unarmed man because she couldnt answer the door , or the robber who got shot 5 times in the face without even being armed or trying to hurt anybody?
yea b/c nobody ever gets hurt in robberies...::)
This guy wasnt a petty theif he wasnt out simply taking what was easy to steal. This mother fucker was BREAKING INTO HOUSES!!! thats a whole other level of criminality from simple theft.
"who do you think got the short end of the stick ? the mom whose house was broken into by an unarmed man because she couldnt answer the door , or the robber who got shot 5 times in the face without even being armed or trying to hurt anybody?"
holy balls dizzle, the CRIMINAL got teh short end of the stick and deservedly so. How as the mothe supposed to know he wasnt armed?
how was she to know he wasnt looking to hurt anyone?
the mother fucker broke into her house and you want to criticize this woman for defending her family?
This is honestly become stupider than any economic stance you have taken, even more idiotic than business do not create demand stance.
I thought there was hope for you bro but this has shown me that at your core you really are just a idealostic, irrational and emotional child
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i think its pretty rare you see someone get shot 5 times in the face. especially if they were only shot in self defense and the person who shot them was using a semi automatic.
its obvious the woman shot the guy once, maybe twice, in the head ; and then after he dropped dead to the floor she walked up to his dead body, stood over him, and shot him in the face 3-4 times more.
thats the story here guys.
isnt that easy to see?
It's quite common for an untrained individual to empty the entire clip without even intending to do so in a life or death situation. Many times they will continue to fire even after all of the rounds have been discharged, as they are in a state of shock. So there's probably not more to this story as you would want everyone to believe, just a scared mother defending her childrens lives.
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The Internet sleuths are at work victimizing the criminal and criminalizing the victim. Par the course.
Do any of the people claiming she stood over the man and tried to execute him have any proof?
Damn her for protecting herself and her kids!!!!!
They're a bunch of fools, it's almost unbelievable... Even for getbig...
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They're a bunch of fools, it's almost unbelievable... Even for getbig...
Gotta agree man... Taking it to a whole other level of stupid.
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i think she probably would have answered the door too. and if she didnt, and he broke in and she was unarmed, i would hope she would scream and if she did that the robber would most likely run out of the house.
thiefs dont want to hurt anybody they just want to get money.
who do you think got the short end of the stick ? the mom whose house was broken into by an unarmed man because she couldnt answer the door , or the robber who got shot 5 times in the face without even being armed or trying to hurt anybody?
He had a crowbar, to begin with....
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i think she probably would have answered the door too. and if she didnt, and he broke in and she was unarmed, i would hope she would scream and if she did that the robber would most likely run out of the house.
thiefs dont want to hurt anybody they just want to get money.
who do you think got the short end of the stick ? the mom whose house was broken into by an unarmed man because she couldnt answer the door , or the robber who got shot 5 times in the face without even being armed or trying to hurt anybody?
You wouldn't ask this woman, under such circumstances, to have faith that this person wasn't going to hurt her, would you?
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It seems like such a crazy world. Sometimes, I can't believe it.
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You wouldn't ask this woman, under such circumstances, to have faith that this person wasn't going to hurt her, would you?
not only that he wasnt going to hurt her but that he was unarmed and he wasnt going to hurt her.
This is as absurd as Woo's criticism that she didnt give the robber a warning ::)
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i think she probably would have answered the door too. and if she didnt, and he broke in and she was unarmed, i would hope she would scream and if she did that the robber would most likely run out of the house.
thiefs dont want to hurt anybody they just want to get money.
who do you think got the short end of the stick ? the mom whose house was broken into by an unarmed man because she couldnt answer the door , or the robber who got shot 5 times in the face without even being armed or trying to hurt anybody?
WOW!! This thread is GOLD!!!
So, this is what I'm getting from your posts:
It is a surefire guarantee that there is no chance a robber breaking into my house has any malicious intent aside from "getting my money," and I can be safely assured that theft is the only crime he is capable of committing. And, if I answer the door and scream at him, he will run away.
Once you confirm (or dispel with adequate explanation) the above summation, then I will address the idiocy of the notion that the poor innocent robber is the victim here, as opposed to the mother protecting herself and her children against a man who unlawfully trespassed onto her property and forced his way into her house.
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when you break into someones house all bets are off,you deserve what they give you
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i think she probably would have answered the door too. and if she didnt, and he broke in and she was unarmed, i would hope she would scream and if she did that the robber would most likely run out of the house.
thiefs dont want to hurt anybody they just want to get money.
who do you think got the short end of the stick ? the mom whose house was broken into by an unarmed man because she couldnt answer the door , or the robber who got shot 5 times in the face without even being armed or trying to hurt anybody?
Also, how do you propose I identify if the intruder presents for robbery or home-invasion? Should I scream from behind the closed door, or should I answer the door first, and then scream?
And, if it is a home-invasion, should I first ask him in a polite and civil manner if and what he is armed with before deciding if deadly force defense is meritted? And, should I study his pupil dilation to determine if he's providing me an honest answer?
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yea b/c nobody ever gets hurt in robberies...::)
This guy wasnt a petty theif he wasnt out simply taking what was easy to steal. This mother fucker was BREAKING INTO HOUSES!!! thats a whole other level of criminality from simple theft.
"who do you think got the short end of the stick ? the mom whose house was broken into by an unarmed man because she couldnt answer the door , or the robber who got shot 5 times in the face without even being armed or trying to hurt anybody?"
holy balls dizzle, the CRIMINAL got teh short end of the stick and deservedly so. How as the mothe supposed to know he wasnt armed?
how was she to know he wasnt looking to hurt anyone?
the mother fucker broke into her house and you want to criticize this woman for defending her family?
This is honestly become stupider than any economic stance you have taken, even more idiotic than business do not create demand stance.
I thought there was hope for you bro but this has shown me that at your core you really are just a idealostic, irrational and emotional child
your damn right the robber got the short end of the stick. now take that into account and stop criticising some media outlet for calling the woman trigger happy because she put 5 bullets in his head. thats trigger happy as fuck.
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It's quite common for an untrained individual to empty the entire clip without even intending to do so in a life or death situation. Many times they will continue to fire even after all of the rounds have been discharged, as they are in a state of shock. So there's probably not more to this story as you would want everyone to believe, just a scared mother defending her childrens lives.
lol.. untrained with guns and emptying an entire clip with accuracy within a few seconds of time.. ;D i guess its "possible" ... and that would be one TRIGGER HAPPY mofo if it did
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He had a crowbar, to begin with....
didnt know that. probably only for a tool to use during the break in.
You wouldn't ask this woman, under such circumstances, to have faith that this person wasn't going to hurt her, would you?
nope. but i would ask her to only use as much force as necessary.
WOW!! This thread is GOLD!!!
So, this is what I'm getting from your posts:
It is a surefire guarantee that there is no chance a robber breaking into my house has any malicious intent aside from "getting my money," and I can be safely assured that theft is the only crime he is capable of committing. And, if I answer the door and scream at him, he will run away.
Once you confirm (or dispel with adequate explanation) the above summation, then I will address the idiocy of the notion that the poor innocent robber is the victim here, as opposed to the mother protecting herself and her children against a man who unlawfully trespassed onto her property and forced his way into her house.
it seems you have some trouble with reading comprehension my friend.
when you break into someones house all bets are off,you deserve what they give you
homeless man rings the bell a few times, was gonna ask the homeowner for food, no one answers and he is starving so he breaks in to grab some food. homeowner is hiding with a baseball bat and knife. runs up and swats the homeless guy in the head and cuts his balls off while still alive then breaks his face wide open with the bat. ... he deserved it tho
Also, how do you propose I identify if the intruder presents for robbery or home-invasion? Should I scream from behind the closed door, or should I answer the door first, and then scream?
And, if it is a home-invasion, should I first ask him in a polite and civil manner if and what he is armed with before deciding if deadly force defense is meritted? And, should I study his pupil dilation to determine if he's providing me an honest answer?
if someone rings several times try to answer it and if they break in and theey dont have a gun on them give them some sort of warning to leave and if they dont them fire on them and injure them enough so they become handicapped and if they present some danger to you then kill them. the idea is to use as little force as possible and to try and prevent the situation from happening in the first place.
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tbombz,
This is the dumbest shit I've ever read on getbig.
hahahahah wtf???
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tbombz,
This is the dumbest shit I've ever read on getbig.
hahahahah wtf???
using as little force as possible? trying to prevent bad things from happening?
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using as little force as possible? trying to prevent bad things from happening?
You're an idiot...
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using as little force as possible? trying to prevent bad things from happening?
Your brain is shot!
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when you break into someones house all bets are off,you deserve what they give you
i don't necessarily disagree...
unfortunately in canada manslaughter charges have been laid in similar cases (or assault charges assuming the robber doesn't die)
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More details... I want to find the 911 recording...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-mom-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder/story?id=18164812#.UO1chG9EFEI (http://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-mom-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder/story?id=18164812#.UO1chG9EFEI)
Georgia Mom Shoots Home Invader, Hiding With Her Children
Georgia Home Invasion 911 Call: 'She's Shooting Him'
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By ROBIN REESE
ATLANTA, Jan. 8, 2013
A mother of two has been hailed a hero by her husband after she shot an intruder in their Loganville, Ga., home last Friday afternoon.
"She protected the kids. She did what she was supposed to do as a responsible, prepared gun owner," said her husband, Donnie Herman, in an interview with ABC's Atlanta affiliate WSB-TV.
According to Herman and the Walton County Sheriff's Office incident report, Melinda Herman was working at home when a man began to ring the doorbell. She called her husband at work, who told her to gather their 9-year-old twins, a boy and a girl, and go hide. All three of them went to an upstairs crawl space, and Melinda brought along a .38 caliber handgun to the hiding place.
Her husband, meanwhile, called the police. In the 911 recording, Herman can be heard saying, "She shot him. She's shooting him, she's shooting him. Shoot him again."
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"I heard him pleading," her husband said to the 911 operator. "He was screaming."
The man allegedly broke into the house and rummaged around before making his way to the crawl space, where he found the mother and children hiding.
"The perpetrator opens that door, and of course at that time he's staring at her, her two children and a .38 revolver," said Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman to WSB-TV.
Melinda Herman shot the intruder five times, hitting him in the face and neck. Chapman said she told the man if he moved she would shoot him again, although she had run out of bullets.
"The guy is [heard] telling her to quit shooting," said Chapman.
The intruder, who police identified as 32-year-old Paul Slater, managed to get to his car and as he tried to flee, crashed into a tree. Deputies later found him in a neighbor's yard.
Melinda Herman and her children, in the meantime, had sought refuge in a neighbor's home.
"Her life is saved and our kids lives are saved. And that's all I can say," said Donnie Herman.
Slater is currently in the Gwinnett Medical Center, receiving treatment for his injuries, which deputies described as serious. A family member told WSB-TV that Slater was on a ventilator and had endured puncture wounds to his lungs, liver and stomach.
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hmmm
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a neat and similar story... with more to it... the 911 tape is chilling... cute baby
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it seems you have some trouble with reading comprehension my friend.
Then clarify your post I quoted, using very specific terms.
Because it is apparent that EVERYONE in this thread - from the loony libs to the right-wing gun-nutters - are having trouble comprehending your ludicrous rhetoric.
By your logic, the problem must be with all of us; not you.
::)
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your damn right the robber got the short end of the stick. now take that into account and stop criticising some media outlet for calling the woman trigger happy because she put 5 bullets in his head. thats trigger happy as fuck.
You act like the mother should have got the short end of the stick.
This guy broke into her house an for all she knew would kill them. Do you not understand that?
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if someone rings several times try to answer it and if they break in and theey dont have a gun on them give them some sort of warning to leave and if they dont them fire on them and injure them enough so they become handicapped and if they present some danger to you then kill them. the idea is to use as little force as possible and to try and prevent the situation from happening in the first place.
Your "idea" is almost as reasonable and realistic as my over-the-top hyperbole above.
I used to find your "ideas" infuriating, but I rather enjoy reading them now - along with your retort. It's truly funnier than anything on TV. You and 240 should do a show together!
You act like the mother should have got the short end of the stick.
In this scenario, someone would have certainly gotten it. Unless you live in the make-believe, Utopian Ivory Tower that some of our posters occupy.
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regardless it appears that her actions were legal based on state/federal law...
kinda puts it to rest for me
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regardless it appears that her actions were legal based on state/federal law...
kinda puts it to rest for me
Were legalities the only/primary factor dictating your opinion concerning whether the mother was right or wrong?
How were your holidays, by the way?
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Were legalities the only/primary factor dictating your opinion concerning whether the mother was right or wrong?
How were your holidays, by the way?
i did keep bringing my rhetoric back to the foundation of my perspective which is the canadian legal system... in canada her actions would likely have been viewed at excessive and potentially criminal...
how would i side if i was on the jury? all things being equal i would vote to acquit... but i love watching tony meltdown (he really is a lot of fun)
my time off was awesome... new home gym is fully installed (used it last night and this morning)... new house is kick ass... i have a whole floor that i do not know what to do with
did you do anything with the famiglia montague?
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i did keep bringing my rhetoric back to the foundation of my perspective which is the canadian legal system... in canada her actions would likely have been viewed at excessive and potentially criminal...
how would i side if i was on the jury? all things being equal i would vote to acquit... but i love watching tony meltdown (he really is a lot of fun)
my time off was awesome... new home gym is fully installed (used it last night and this morning)... new house is kick ass... i have a whole floor that i do not know what to do with
did you do anything with the famiglia montague?
Tony is a genuinely good dude.
Holidays went fast. I worked extra and was on call all of Christmas week. Didn't get paged and saw my family a lot, but still couldn't drink. >:( The house pics look good, bro. But, I don't want to derail the thread. I'll catch you on the Nut board!
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hmmm
Lol this is hilarious :D
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it ain't pretty. but it's legal.
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In an interview with the Daily Times Herald in Caroll, Iowa, state Rep. Dan Muhlbauer said governments should start confiscating semi-automatic rifles and other firearms.
Muhlbauer, a Democrat from the western Iowa town of Manilla, is a cattleman and farmer. The newspaper reported that he owns a .410 shotgun, a .22 rifle and a .22 pistol.
“We cannot have big guns out here as far as the big guns that are out here, the semi-automatics and all of them,” Muhlbauer told the newspaper during a December 19 audiotaped interview. “We can’t have those running around out here. Those are not hunting weapons.”
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“We should ban those in Iowa,” he said, adding that such a ban should be applied retroactively.
“We need to get them off the streets — illegally — and even if you have them, I think we need to start taking them,” Muhlbauer told the Daily Times Herald. “We can’t have those out there. Because if they’re out there they’re just going to get circulated around to the wrong people. Those guns should not be in the public’s hands. There are just too many guns.”
The newspaper published excerpts from the interview Wednesday morning along with an audio recording of the full 15-minute interview.
“We have to change, and we have to get stricter and tougher with what we do,” Muhlbauer said.
Listen:
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/iowa-lawmaker-calls-for-retroactive-gun-bans-confiscations-of-semi-automatic-weapons/#ixzz2HUd4zcsT
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Setting aside all the other idiocy, the pissing on the constitution etc
Haha this guy thinks that a .410 and a .22 are all you need to hunt with?
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didnt know that. probably only for a tool to use during the break in.
Without a single other consideration, can you see the problem developing?
nope. but i would ask her to only use as much force as necessary.
As necessary to do what, bro?
Think about it. Your heart is in the right place, but you haven't gone the distance with this one.
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And anyone who would be quick to call this woman "trigger happy" should consider the fact that she attempted to hide in a closet, when she could have easily chosen to open full bore upon his crossing the threshold.
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Setting aside all the other idiocy, the pissing on the constitution etc
Haha this guy thinks that a .410 and a .22 are all you need to hunt with?
some politicians like to go "varminting".
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And anyone who would be quick to call this woman "trigger happy" should consider the fact that she attempted to hide in a closet, when she could have easily chosen to open full bore upon his crossing the threshold.
No. You, I, and everyone else in this thread are wrong. Tbomz is the only one who's right; it's just that NONE of us are smart enough to "comprehend" his stance.
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No. You, I, and everyone else in this thread are wrong. Tbomz is the only one who's right; it's just that NONE of us are smart enough to "comprehend" his stance.
Good sarcasm, but in this instance, I can't even go along with that, bombz has just gone stupid in this one.
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lol.. untrained with guns and emptying an entire clip with accuracy within a few seconds of time.. ;D i guess its "possible" ... and that would be one TRIGGER HAPPY mofo if it did
I didn't say untrained with guns, I said "untrained". Meaning, COMBAT TRAINING. Being able to shoot a gun doesn't mean you are in no way ready for a combat situation.
It has nothing to do with trigger happiness, it's an automatic reaction to someone who doesn't have combat training. This is something that can take years of training to overcome, that automatic response.
You know nothing of this subject so I'd suggest you keep your idiotic opinions to yourself. You've never even had your life threatened by another individual so you shouldn't even be commenting on this at all.
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And anyone who would be quick to call this woman "trigger happy" should consider the fact that she attempted to hide in a closet, when she could have easily chosen to open full bore upon his crossing the threshold.
This is a fair point.
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America is a police state, hope that helps.
Freedom is a theoretical fantasy of Americans.
The land of the free.
Oh and good luck.
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And anyone who would be quick to call this woman "trigger happy" should consider the fact that she attempted to hide in a closet, when she could have easily chosen to open full bore upon his crossing the threshold.
Again, good point.
Some people (media, especially) are speaking as though she was "in position" at her bedroom window with a sniper-rifle just waiting for the guy to step over her property line.
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Again, good point.
Some people (media, especially) are speaking as though she was "in position" at her bedroom window with a sniper-rifle just waiting for the guy to step over her property line.
Anti-gun groups are scrambling to find examples to justify new legislation
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so wooo posts the 911 video that proves she kept on firing at the guy after he was already down and was asking her to stop. ??? ??? ??? do i get any apologies from anybody?? no, "im sorry tbombz for attacking you but you were right in your assumption" ?? ??? ??? ::)
You act like the mother should have got the short end of the stick.
This guy broke into her house an for all she knew would kill them. Do you not understand that?
a stick can be broken into equal halfs ;)
Without a single other consideration, can you see the problem developing?
As necessary to do what, bro?
Think about it. Your heart is in the right place, but you haven't gone the distance with this one.
go back and read my posts man. i think your just assuming that i said what others are claiming i said.
No. You, I, and everyone else in this thread are wrong. Tbomz is the only one who's right; it's just that NONE of us are smart enough to "comprehend" his stance.
thats usually the case :P (in all seriousness though, i tend to fail at communicating because i like to be confrontational in an intellectual way.. comprehension errors are due to my encoding errors)
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Anti-gun groups are scrambling to find examples to justify new legislation
And, they are exploiting a tragedy to push through their agenda.
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thats usually the case :P (in all seriousness though, i tend to fail at communicating because i like to be confrontational in an intellectual way.. comprehension errors are due to my encoding errors)
Your "encoding" has enabled us ALL to surmise that you lack intellect regarding this topic.
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Your "encoding" has enabled us ALL to surmise that you lack intellect regarding this topic.
you think you know something of value? ;D
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you think you know something of value? ;D
you know why i laugh at you on this? You speak as a juiced bodybuilder who can handle an average guy.
A smaller weaker mother of three can not and the only equalizer is a gun in that situation.
Too bad leftists and liberals dont grasp that.
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you think you know something of value? ;D
As has become standard in this thread, I have no idea what point you're driving at in your above post (or, if there even is a point).
I'm just with everyone else here who is confounded by your ramblings. Instead of attempting to be intellectual, why don't you speak in terms you are capable of and set us all straight?
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you know why i laugh at you on this? You speak as a juiced bodybuilder who can handle an average guy.
I have doubts. Tbombs is a good dude, but he's too passive and naive; he would get his ass handed to him in some fashion in any kind of real altercation. Can you imagine what would happen to him in a home-invasion?
Again, good guy - not a mean bone in his body. And, as someone else said: his heart is in the right place.
But, as for "handling" himself? He can't even handle a grocery list!
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Hell no you're not "right in your assumption"
Your assumption said that he wasn't trying to hurt her. You don't know this.
Your assumption was that if she answered her door he would have left. You don't know this.
And if you roll into my house... I'll unload a clip on your ass.
Everyone would beg to not be shot anymore, but fuck that... You walked into HER place.
You are seriously loco.
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you know why i laugh at you on this? You speak as a juiced bodybuilder who can handle an average guy.
A smaller weaker mother of three can not and the only equalizer is a gun in that situation.
Too bad leftists and liberals dont grasp that.
you think i dont know that? ;D the point of my postings was not to say she shouldnt have shot the guy. i never even hinted at that. go back to the first page of this thread and look at the first 5-10 comments or so. how tommy is calling the media outlet "disgusting", and blah blah blah. because they titled the story "trigger happy woman.. ". what the fuck was the title of the story supposed to be? mans face is local hotspot for bullet hangout? she shot the dude 5 fucking times in the face. yes, the story there is the amount of shots fired. home break ins, robbers getting shot. that sort of thing isnt really news worthy. the local town newspaper might throw up a small paragraph about it. what made that story news worthy was the 5 BULLETS TO THE FACE. how do you title a story like that? yupp... "trigger happy". and now the facts confirm the assumption, she kepton shooting the dude even after she had downed him.
As has become standard in this thread, I have no idea what point you're driving at in your above post (or, if there even is a point).
I'm just with everyone else here who is confounded by your ramblings. Instead of attempting to be intellectual, why don't you speak in terms you are capable of and set us all straight?
SIMPLE QUESTION.. DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW SOMETHING OF VALUE? MISTER CALLING-OTHER-PEOPLE-STUPID ?? if you dont understand the question maybe you should be more familiar with the philosophy of knowledge..
I have doubts. Tbombs is a good dude, but he's too passive and naive; he would get his ass handed to him in some fashion in any kind of real altercation. Can you imagine what would happen to him in a home-invasion?
Again, good guy - not a mean bone in his body. And, as someone said: his heart is in the right place.
But, as for "handling" himself? He can't even handle a grocery list!
LOL.. home slice.. LMAO... my pics are up for everyone to see.. go ahead and post yours up and let everyone decide who could handle who ;DHell no you're not "right in your assumption"
Your assumption said that he wasn't trying to hurt her. You don't know this.
never assumed that, just said it was a possibility
Your assumption was that if she answered her door he would have left. You don't know this.
never assumed that, just said it was a possibility
And if you roll into my house... I'll unload a clip on your ass.
Everyone would beg to not be shot anymore, but fuck that... You walked into HER place.
You are seriously loco.
my assumption was that she kept firing on the dude even after she had grounded him. and the 911 tape confirmed that.
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my assumption was that she kept firing on the dude even after she had grounded him. and the 911 tape confirmed that.
So what? How is that even relevant?
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This is why people should have to pass a test before being allowed to vote.
Current events...
Basic economics...
Coloring while staying inside the lines...
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So what? How is that even relevant?
how is it relevant? its the only fucking thing that i care about. and its the only reason why she shot him so many times. and its the only reason why the story wwas news worthy. and its the only reason why the story was titled "trigger happy woman..".
the only thing i wanted to do in this thread was get tommy, you, and others who had posted on the first page acting all disgusted and high-and-mighty because the paper titled the story the way it did to realize that the title of the story was perfectly fitting. calling her trigger happy doesnt diminish her right to shoot the guy. it doesnt make her evil. it doesnt mean we should take guns away from everybody. it just means she shot more than she had to. and the story being reported on wasnt that she shot the dude, it was that she shot the dude 5 times in the face. she shot him once, twice, three times, didnt stop there but hit him again, and once more for good measure. he was already down, and she shot him again. no reason for that whatsoever. TRIGGER HAPPY. thats the story. nothing disgusting about reporting it. it would be disgusting if the media was celebrating the fact she shot him.
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This is why people should have to pass a test before being allowed to vote.
Current events...
Basic economics...
Coloring while staying inside the lines...
pass a test before voting huh? ;D go ahead and prove you can pass your own test, teach me some basic economics real quick. just a few lines, enough to prove you know what your talking about and not something so simple that anybody could have said it. .. im waiting.. ;D
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pass a test before voting huh? ;D go ahead and prove you can pass your own test, teach me some basic economics real quick. just a few lines, enough to prove you know what your talking about and not something so simple that anybody could have said it. .. im waiting.. ;D
Bump your thread from several months ago in which you asked for help in budgeting a grocery list.
We'll start there.
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A news outlet calling someone trigger happy is clearly a form of judgement and condemnation.
Below is the definition of trigger happy according to websters. It's completely unfair to label a woman defending herself and her children in these terms.
1 : irresponsible in the use of firearms; especially : inclined to shoot before clearly identifying the target
2 a : inclined to be irresponsible in matters that might precipitate war
b : aggressively belligerent in attitude
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This is a fair point.
Again, good point.
Yes. No matter from what angle you view it, the story will hold itself - down to the fact she was in a closet, very possibly with her back against a wall.
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Bump your thread from several months ago in which you asked for help in budgeting a grocery list.
We'll start there.
:)
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how is it relevant? its the only fucking thing that i care about. and its the only reason why she shot him so many times. and its the only reason why the story wwas news worthy. and its the only reason why the story was titled "trigger happy woman..".
the only thing i wanted to do in this thread was get tommy, you, and others who had posted on the first page acting all disgusted and high-and-mighty because the paper titled the story the way it did to realize that the title of the story was perfectly fitting. calling her trigger happy doesnt diminish her right to shoot the guy. it doesnt make her evil. it doesnt mean we should take guns away from everybody. it just means she shot more than she had to. and the story being reported on wasnt that she shot the dude, it was that she shot the dude 5 times in the face. she shot him once, twice, three times, didnt stop there but hit him again, and once more for good measure. he was already down, and she shot him again. no reason for that whatsoever. TRIGGER HAPPY. thats the story. nothing disgusting about reporting it. it would be disgusting if the media was celebrating the fact she shot him.
This is why you are an idiot... The chick unloaded on him and you label it trigger happy... HE BROKE INTO HER HOUSE... She DID NOT break into his.
You are insane.
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Bump your thread from several months ago in which you asked for help in budgeting a grocery list.
We'll start there.
that would be basic mathematics, not economics. plus, i wasnt asking for help budgeting, i was asking for people to share the best deals they had found and where they found them. nice spin.. :-*
A news outlet calling someone trigger happy is clearly a form of judgement and condemnation.
Below is the definition of trigger happy according to websters. It's completely unfair to label a woman defending herself and her children in these terms.
1 : irresponsible in the use of firearms; especially : inclined to shoot before clearly identifying the target
2 a : inclined to be irresponsible in matters that might precipitate war
b : aggressively belligerent in attitude
she shot him after he was already on the ground from previous gun shots to the head
This is why you are an idiot... The chick unloaded on him and you label it trigger happy... HE BROKE INTO HER HOUSE... She DID NOT break into his.
You are insane.
see my above response to archer
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that would be basic mathematics, not economics. plus, i wasnt asking for help budgeting, i was asking for people to share the best deals they had found and where they found them. nice spin.. :-*
she shot him after he was already on the ground from previous gun shots to the head
see my above response to archer
I do not care... If you broke into my house, I'd unload on you too.
You make zero valid points.
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well, then thats your opinion. i suppose anyone can rationalize any behavior they want to.
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well, then thats your opinion. i suppose anyone can rationalize any behavior they want to.
You have rationalized a man not being shot because he entered another persons house with a crowbar... You are a fool.
I used to be indifferent to you, now I just know you're an overly idealistic idiot.
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yeah.. because i said she shouldnt have shot him. ;)
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successful trolling in this thread tbombz... you got us good! ;D
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that would be basic mathematics, not economics. plus, i wasnt asking for help budgeting, i was asking for people to share the best deals they had found and where they found them. nice spin.. :-*
she shot him after he was already on the ground from previous gun shots to the head
see my above response to archer
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I don't see it written anywhere that she shot him in the face when he was down. Even if she had it makes sense considering he was still active enough to bolt from the house. And I'm sure he wasn't laying on the floor motionless letting her shoot him. What you're implying is malicious premeditation and I don't see any evidence of that. This a real heat of the moment situation.
Consider for a moment that she didn't shoot him the back as he fled which would have definitely been overkill. When he fled from her home she did not pursue either. I don't think you're a dumb guy but your reasoning often makes little sense.
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yeah.. because i said she shouldnt have shot him. ;)
You implied that she was over zealous in how she shot him. That is STUPID. Why? No, you didn't ask, but I will tell you in hopes that you learn something (even though we all know you will not).
It is stupid because the woman was in fear... A man broke into her house with a crowbar and she feared for her safety. At that point, you are simply in survival mode and there is no over zealousness when it comes to saving the life of you and your children.
For your lack of understanding on that alone, you are a fool and not worthy of anymore of anyone's attention in this thread.
I will not respond to any more of your fool hardy and worthless statements about a woman who was in her own home, minding her own business, and fearing for the safety of her and her family only to have you act like she was somehow at fault.
And before you start talking about what you "said", you better pay attention to what you IMPLY, because implications are just as damning and in this instance, they prove how stupid you actually are.
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I don't see it written anywhere that she shot him in the face when he was down. Even if she had it makes sense considering he was still active enough to bolt from the house. And I'm sure he wasn't laying on the floor motionless letting her shoot him. What you're implying is malicious premeditation and I don't see any evidence of that. This a real heat of the moment situation.
Consider for a moment that she didn't shoot him the back as he fled which would have definitely been overkill. When he fled from her home she did not pursue either. I don't think you're a dumb guy but your reasoning often makes little sense.
from what i read of the posting of the 911 call, she shot him after he had already hit the floor. yes, heat of the moment; no, not premeditated. i never intimated otherwise.
You implied that she was over zealous in how she shot him. That is STUPID. Why? No, you didn't ask, but I will tell you in hopes that you learn something (even though we all know you will not).
It is stupid because the woman was in fear... A man broke into her house with a crowbar and she feared for her safety. At that point, you are simply in survival mode and there is no over zealousness when it comes to saving the life of you and your children.
For your lack of understanding on that alone, you are a fool and not worthy of anymore of anyone's attention in this thread.
I will not respond to any more of your fool hardy and worthless statements about a woman who was in her own home, minding her own business, and fearing for the safety of her and her family only to have you act like she was somehow at fault.
And before you start talking about what you "said", you better pay attention to what you IMPLY, because implications are just as damning and in this instance, they prove how stupid you actually are.
yes there is such a thing as being overzealous in self defense. ;)
;)
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from what i read of the posting of the 911 call, she shot him after he had already hit the floor. yes, heat of the moment; no, not premeditated. i never intimated otherwise.
yes there is such a thing as being overzealous in self defense. ;)
;)
i fail to see your point...
per the police: "if someone breaks into your house you are allowed to use deadly force"
i do not agree... and that's definitely not legal in canada... but it is there law in her jurisdiction
legally she was within her rights
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yes there is such a thing as being overzealous in self defense. ;)
No there is not such a thing as being overzealous in self defense, especially where kids are involed. ::) I don't know what fantasy land you live in, but....
Anywone who has an indruder coming at them in their own home should be totally within their right to terminate that threat if they have the means available to do so.
Anywone who thinks that's wrong if out of their freaking mind.
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no shooting is going to be pretty. there's going to be a lot of "honey don't move, i'm gonna finish him off" that people get away with all the time. Sucks for the bad guy and is unnecessary in some cases, but yeahhhh it's gonna happen. We hear it here, and "shoot him again honey" against a begging crying intruder... sucks to hear, but it's not gonna change.
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no shooting is going to be pretty. there's going to be a lot of "honey don't move, i'm gonna finish him off" that people get away with all the time. Sucks for the bad guy and is unnecessary in some cases, but yeahhhh it's gonna happen. We hear it here, and "shoot him again honey" against a begging crying intruder... sucks to hear, but it's not gonna change.
I have no idea what has happend to you 240, but it's not cool... What you just posted is off in some bla bla land way the fuck out there. WTF happened to you dude? This stuff you're posting is wacked. :-\
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She was in her attic or crawl space. Every one of those I've ever been in was entered head first, either at the top of stairs or through a tiny door.
Interesting the Internet sleuths haven't made mention of the likelihood his face was the first thing through.
no shooting is going to be pretty. there's going to be a lot of "honey don't move, i'm gonna finish him off" that people get away with all the time. Sucks for the bad guy and is unnecessary in some cases, but yeahhhh it's gonna happen. We hear it here, and "shoot him again honey" against a begging crying intruder... sucks to hear, but it's not gonna change.
I find your posts nothing short of comical given that you were ready to draw down on a guy who looked at you in a parking lot and that your brother also murdered a man in a place of business and not his own home with his children behind him.
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nah my brother didn't kill the robber, just wounded him.
i'm saying the shoot was legal here. just messy, ugly, part of how shit works when ppl home invade :(
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nah my brother didn't kill the robber, just wounded him.
i'm saying the shoot was legal here. just messy, ugly, part of how shit works when ppl home invade :(
Yes, how dare it not go smoothly.
I'm quite fond of you constantly criminalizing the victim and victimizing the criminal in all these stories. Kind of comical when you then claim to be such a pro-gun guy.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN YOUR HEAD 240?
"shoot him again honey" against a begging crying intruder... sucks to hear, but it's not gonna change.
This is nuts lol...
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No there is not such a thing as being overzealous in self defense, especially where kids are involed. ::) I don't know what fantasy land you live in, but....
Anywone who has an indruder coming at them in their own home should be totally within their right to terminate that threat if they have the means available to do so.
Anywone who thinks that's wrong if out of their freaking mind.
Exactly... TBombz is living in a fucking land of make believe.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN YOUR HEAD 240?
"shoot him again honey" against a begging crying intruder... sucks to hear, but it's not gonna change.
This is nuts lol...
it's the truth. It happens. I dont doubt it at all. Isn't that what happens on the 911 call here? Guy is crying and hubby is instructing wifey to keep shooting? Now that I've heard the tape, I'm saying it's ugly, it's sad, but it's REAL. That's what happens. She will not be prosecuted for anything - dude was in her house and the law protects her right to even reload and shoot the guy in the face 5 more times if her hubby instructs.
it gets blurry at times like this, and I dont know the answer.
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Exactly... TBombz is living in a fucking land of make believe.
The only relief is that, on a board full of moderates and polar extremists, he is the ONLY one who believes that the robber "got the short end of the stick" in this whole situation.
It is refreshing that more people do not share this disturbing view.
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it's the truth. It happens. I dont doubt it at all. Isn't that what happens on the 911 call here? Guy is crying and hubby is instructing wifey to keep shooting? Now that I've heard the tape, I'm saying it's ugly, it's sad, but it's REAL. That's what happens. She will not be prosecuted for anything - dude was in her house and the law protects her right to even reload and shoot the guy in the face 5 more times if her hubby instructs.
it gets blurry at times like this, and I dont know the answer.
It's not blurry at all...
If the guy can scream don't shoot me anymore, then he's NOT incapacitated... What if it was a ruse? What if he was saying don't shoot me and she drops her weapon and he throws that crowbar at her?
The dude is ALIVE and he should be damn thankful for that... HE walked into HER house.
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tbombz it's downright sinful to be judging that woman's actions. you should be ashamed of yourself. and the sad thing is all because of your allegiance to a fucking political party.
if someone breaks into your home with a crowbar, you're an IDIOT if you DON'T assume that they're there to hurt you. if have a wife and two little boys. 6 and 2. you keep shooting! until there is no question that he can't hurt my little boys. NO QUESTION. what if he had a gun too?
ask any cop. my family is chock full of them. it's only in the movies where you shoot someone and they drop like a sack of potatoes.
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tbombz it's downright sinful to be judging that woman's actions. you should be ashamed of yourself. and the sad thing is all because of your allegiance to a fucking political party.
if someone breaks into your home with a crowbar, you're an IDIOT if you DON'T assume that they're there to hurt you. if have a wife and two little boys. 6 and 2. you keep shooting! until there is no question that he can't hurt my little boys. NO QUESTION. what if he had a gun too?
ask any cop. my family is chock full of them. it's only in the movies where you shoot someone and they drop like a sack of potatoes.
Why couldnt she fire a warning shot or just aim for his little toe? ;D
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when you break into someones house all bets are off,you deserve what they give you
and i'm not a far right nutjob
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Why couldnt she fire a warning shot or just aim for his little toe? ;D
Don't be ridiculous...
She should have shot him in the leg, taking care to aim towards the lateral aspect so as to avoid hitting his femoral artery.
Perfectly reasonable strategy under those conditions.
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and i'm not a far right nutjob
No, you're just using sensible reasoning, which all but one person is this thread is doing.
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tbombz it's downright sinful to be judging that woman's actions. you should be ashamed of yourself. and the sad thing is all because of your allegiance to a fucking political party.
if someone breaks into your home with a crowbar, you're an IDIOT if you DON'T assume that they're there to hurt you. if have a wife and two little boys. 6 and 2. you keep shooting! until there is no question that he can't hurt my little boys. NO QUESTION. what if he had a gun too?
ask any cop. my family is chock full of them. it's only in the movies where you shoot someone and they drop like a sack of potatoes.
Tbombz strategy would be to turtle up and let the intruder give him a "deep tissue massage" until the intruder passes out from exhaustion, allowing T to flee to safety while the home invader remains alive and unharmed.
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Even with the guy on the floor, leaving for safety would require faith that he would not arise to overtake her or her children on their way out. Simple. And the truth is that she didn't shoot him enough times to have adequate faith, as he was still alive, and ended up running out of the house shortly after.
It comes down to the fact that a person rarely survives a series of gunshots, and that's what makes it such a freak show. The considerations remain the same, and this guy is probably thanking God that he lived to find a new hobby.
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i fail to see your point...
per the police: "if someone breaks into your house you are allowed to use deadly force"
i do not agree... and that's definitely not legal in canada... but it is there law in her jurisdiction
legally she was within her rights
legality and morality are not the same thing.
No there is not such a thing as being overzealous in self defense, especially where kids are involed. ::) I don't know what fantasy land you live in, but....
Anywone who has an indruder coming at them in their own home should be totally within their right to terminate that threat if they have the means available to do so.
Anywone who thinks that's wrong if out of their freaking mind.
i never said she should not have shot the guy. yes, you can be overzealous in self defense. if someone slaps you in the face, putting a bullet between their eyes in response is overzealous. response should only be as forceful as necessary. anything more than necessary is overzealous.
no shooting is going to be pretty. there's going to be a lot of "honey don't move, i'm gonna finish him off" that people get away with all the time. Sucks for the bad guy and is unnecessary in some cases, but yeahhhh it's gonna happen. We hear it here, and "shoot him again honey" against a begging crying intruder... sucks to hear, but it's not gonna change.
exactly, and it can change. no reason for people to be so fucking comfortable with violence. even if a guy intrudes your house , go ahead and shoot him if you feel necessary. but shotting him again and again once youve already downed him.. just unnecessary.
tbombz it's downright sinful to be judging that woman's actions. you should be ashamed of yourself. and the sad thing is all because of your allegiance to a fucking political party.
if someone breaks into your home with a crowbar, you're an IDIOT if you DON'T assume that they're there to hurt you. if have a wife and two little boys. 6 and 2. you keep shooting! until there is no question that he can't hurt my little boys. NO QUESTION. what if he had a gun too?
ask any cop. my family is chock full of them. it's only in the movies where you shoot someone and they drop like a sack of potatoes.
she kept shotting after he had already hit the ground. that is a "fact". who said im judging her? are you not judging the guy who got shot? :) as for allegiance to a political party.. lmao.. im an anarchist .. go ahead and ask me if i support tougher gun laws.. ;)
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Tbombz, he had enough vigor left in him to flee the house after being shot five times. He was probably still moving while she was shooting him, attempting to get up. Don't you think this woman would have still perceived him as a threat? In her mind the worse thing that could happen is for him to get up. And, please link to an article where it says she shot him while he was on the ground. I can't seem to find an article that references that.
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there's a huge gray area in the middle there. very huge. at some point between dude standing over you with knife, and dude twitching on floor being delivered the coup de grace headshot to finish him off lol....
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there's a huge gray area in the middle there. very huge. at some point between dude standing over you with knife, and dude twitching on floor being delivered the coup de grace headshot to finish him off lol....
But he wasn't laying there motionless. He was probably scrambling to get to his feet. He had enough energy to high tail it out of the house.
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tbombz it's downright sinful to be judging that woman's actions. you should be ashamed of yourself.
who said im judging her? are you not judging the guy who got shot?
Yeah, bears...
Quit judging the nice robber/intruder/criminal.
It's enough he already "got the short end of the stick" all because of the "bitch who should have answered the door" in the first place.
Honestly, it is wrong to judge him without giving him the benefit of the doubt. People who break into your house might have good intentions.
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But he wasn't laying there motionless. He was probably scrambling to get to his feet. He had enough energy to high tail it out of the house.
180 always takes the side of criminal
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But he wasn't laying there motionless. He was probably scrambling to get to his feet. He had enough energy to high tail it out of the house.
whatever. dude is trying to run away, or laying there motionless. in either situation he no longer poses a threat.
Yeah, bears...
Quit judging the nice robber/intruder/criminal.
It's enough he already "got the short end of the stick" all because of the "bitch who should have answered the door" in the first place.
Honestly, it is wrong to judge him without giving him the benefit of the doubt. People who break into your house might have good intentions.
i take it your probably a pperson who believes in the bible.. here you go.. "judge not lest ye be judged" .. "if someone strike syou on your left cheek, turn to them the other as well".. ;) so much for your moral high ground huh :)
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i take it your probably a pperson who believes in the bible.. here you go.. "judge not lest ye be judged" .. "if someone strike syou on your left cheek, turn to them the other as well".. ;) so much for your moral high ground huh :)
And, how did you arrive at that conclusion?
Regardless, since YOU are the one to start quoting biblical references, here's another: "Thou shall not steal."
I see that you conveniently did not mention that one.
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Tbombz, he had enough vigor left in him to flee the house after being shot five times. He was probably still moving while she was shooting him, attempting to get up. Don't you think this woman would have still perceived him as a threat? In her mind the worse thing that could happen is for him to get up. And, please link to an article where it says she shot him while he was on the ground. I can't seem to find an article that references that.
BUMP.
We need to hold him to completely addressing one matter before pointing out the falacies of others, or allowing him to deflect.
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BUMP.
We need to hold him to completely addressing one matter before pointing out the falacies of others, or allowing him to deflect.
He did answer. He said, "whatever."
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He did answer. He said, "whatever."
More of that patented "intellectual verbiage."
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i tend to fail at communicating because i like to be confrontational in an intellectual way...
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legality and morality are not the same thing.
i never said she should not have shot the guy. yes, you can be overzealous in self defense. if someone slaps you in the face, putting a bullet between their eyes in response is overzealous. response should only be as forceful as necessary. anything more than necessary is overzealous.
exactly, and it can change. no reason for people to be so fucking comfortable with violence. even if a guy intrudes your house , go ahead and shoot him if you feel necessary. but shotting him again and again once youve already downed him.. just unnecessary.
she kept shotting after he had already hit the ground. that is a "fact". who said im judging her? are you not judging the guy who got shot? :) as for allegiance to a political party.. lmao.. im an anarchist .. go ahead and ask me if i support tougher gun laws.. ;)
you're beyond ridiculous. put down the shovel.
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whatever. dude is trying to run away, or laying there motionless. in either situation he no longer poses a threat.
i take it your probably a pperson who believes in the bible.. here you go.. "judge not lest ye be judged" .. "if someone strike syou on your left cheek, turn to them the other as well".. ;) so much for your moral high ground huh :)
i'm not judging the intruder. he may have had the best intentions breaking onto her house with a crobar and then trying to get into the crawlspace that her and her two small children were hiding terrified out of their minds.......maybe. would you bet on it?
what i am doing is demanding that no one judge HER......for doing what SHE did.
i'd like to think that she could have fired a warning shot and he could have run away. and then he would turn himself in and never break into anyone's house again. but i have to remind you that this happened in REAL LIFE. not as a hypothetical that you are playing back in your head and trying to figure out what you may or may not have done given the same situtation.
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Go back to bed.
whatever. dude is trying to run away, or laying there motionless. in either situation he no longer poses a threat.
i take it your probably a pperson who believes in the bible.. here you go.. "judge not lest ye be judged" .. "if someone strike syou on your left cheek, turn to them the other as well".. ;) so much for your moral high ground huh :)
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It wouldn't matter even if he was motionless. You can't ask the woman to do anything short of maximizing her chances of removing herself and her children from the dangerous situation. As far as I see, it is untouchable.
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It wouldn't matter even if he was motionless. You can't ask the woman to do anything short of maximizing her chances of removing herself and her children from the dangerous situation. As far as I see, it is untouchable.
Anyone crossing into your house unauthorized is assumed to have malicious intent and is to be treated as a violent attacker.
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http://news.yahoo.com/mom-shot-intruder-inspires-gun-control-foes-003753089.html
"Herman took her 9-year-old son and daughter into an upstairs bedroom and locked the door. They went into bathroom and she locked that door, too. She got her handgun from a safe, the report said, and hid with her children. At some point, she called her husband, who kept her on the line and called 911 on another line."
"In a 10-minute 911 recording released by the Walton County Sheriff's Office, Donnie Herman calmly explained what was happening to a dispatcher. His part of the conversation with his wife was also recorded."
"His wife told him the intruder was coming closer.
"He's in the bedroom? Shh, shh, relax. Just remember everything that I showed you, everything that I taught you, all right?" Donnie Herman told his wife, explaining later to the dispatcher that he had recently taken her to a gun range."
"Melinda Herman told police she started shooting the man when he opened the door to the crawl space."
"The man drove away in his SUV. Police found the SUV on another subdivision street and discovered a man bleeding from his face and body in a nearby wooded area."
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LOL so they were on the phone for 10 mins with 911, no worries folks the police will be there to protect you...
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180 always takes the side of criminal
i said it was LEGAL.
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LOL so they were on the phone for 10 mins with 911, no worries folks the police will be there to protect you...
Hey Wooooo, do you think you could defend yourself and your family for 10 mins with that 6 iron with the shaft wrapped with E-tape
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Hey Wooooo, do you think you could defend yourself and your family for 10 mins with that 6 iron with the shaft wrapped with E-tape
bare hands against a clown like that dude would be sufficient...
you seem to have an unrealistic impression of who i am as a person in the real world
i do like the idea of the tape wrapped 6-iron though... but i don't have one...
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bare hands against a clown like that dude would be sufficient...
you seem to have an unrealistic impression of who i am as a person in the real world
i do like the idea of the tape wrapped 6-iron though... but i don't have one...
You officially outed yourself as one of the fringe loons. Good god are you dumb
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You officially outed yourself as one of the fringe loons. Good god are you dumb
if you say so
based on your spam and lack of a real life you are clearly the yardstick of looniness...
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if you say so
based on your spam and lack of a real life you are clearly the yardstick of looniness...
A 115 lbs woman vs a 185lb male attacker - STFU you stupid fuck.
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A 115 lbs woman vs a 185lb male attacker - STFU you stupid fuck.
your point?
let's try to keep this on topic sport
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your point?
let's try to keep this on topic sport
My point is that you are a typical leftist delusional stupid piece of shit
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My point is that you are a typical leftist delusional stupid piece of shit
unfortunately that kind of reply doesn't impress anyone... try harder
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And, how did you arrive at that conclusion?
Regardless, since YOU are the one to start quoting biblical references, here's another: "Thou shall not steal."
I see that you conveniently did not mention that one.
yes the bible condemns certain behaviors.. and among them is judgement.. furthermore, no where does it enoucrage vigilantism in punishing those who do wrong.. ON TOP OF ALL THAT.. to "turn the other cheek" is to not only condemn self defense, but to condemn the preservation of self as well. if someone comes to rob your home, "turn the other cheek" (give them the keys to the car and the summer home as well).
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unfortunately that kind of reply doesn't impress anyone... try harder
Only a crackhead thinks a 100lb female stands a chance vs a 185lb male intruder
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I'm watching the movie "SIGNS" on cable right now.
I'd totally invite 333386 over if aliens invaded. He'd be shooting their heads off one by one.
fistfighting aliens doesn't sound fun.
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I'm watching the movie "SIGNS" on cable right now.
I'd totally invite 333386 over if aliens invaded. He'd be shooting their heads off one by one.
fistfighting aliens doesn't sound fun.
That movie was frigging great!
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i'm not judging the intruder. he may have had the best intentions breaking onto her house with a crobar and then trying to get into the crawlspace that her and her two small children were hiding terrified out of their minds.......maybe. would you bet on it?
what i am doing is demanding that no one judge HER......for doing what SHE did.
i'd like to think that she could have fired a warning shot and he could have run away. and then he would turn himself in and never break into anyone's house again. but i have to remind you that this happened in REAL LIFE. not as a hypothetical that you are playing back in your head and trying to figure out what you may or may not have done given the same situtation.
and thats a damn fine reply, sir. :) bravo
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That movie was frigging great!
I'd pay $50 for another version of the film where we get to see the invasion happen, mass chaos, etc. I love movies like that.
It's on AMC right now. The aliens are about to move in. they're standing in the living room without weapons.... lol, sheeit, I'd be armed with lamps and table legs, if no AK47 was available.
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Only a crackhead thinks a 100lb female stands a chance vs a 185lb male intruder
please identify where i said she would have
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i'm yelling at the TV set. PICK UP A WEAPON YOU DUMB SHITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alien is in the house, and they're standing there empty handed. ARGH.... KILL KILL KILLLL the ugly green monsters.
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i'm yelling at the TV set. PICK UP A WEAPON YOU DUMB SHITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alien is in the house, and they're standing there empty handed. ARGH.... KILL KILL KILLLL the ugly green monsters.
;D
Swing . . . .. Swing . . . . .
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;D
Swing . . . .. Swing . . . . .
seriously, i' think i'd be laughing hysterically.... me and 333386 doing a shot, grabbing an AR each, standing facing the door, blasting the head off the shoulders of each alien as they walked in. I dont even think we'd lock the front door lol...
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seriously, i' think i'd be laughing hysterically.... me and 333386 doing a shot, grabbing an AR each, standing facing the door, blasting the head off the shoulders of each alien as they walked in. I dont even think we'd lock the front door lol...
I really enjoyed that movie
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bare hands against a clown like that dude would be sufficient...
you seem to have an unrealistic impression of who i am as a person in the real world
i do like the idea of the tape wrapped 6-iron though... but i don't have one...
hahah Im pretty sure I have a good idea of who you are in this world my friend. Youre likely just like every other internet bad ass who really isnt.
I doubt youve ever been in a physical altercation if you think you could wrestle around with someone for 10 mins.
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hahah Im pretty sure I have a good idea of who you are in this world my friend. Youre likely just like every other internet bad ass who really isnt.
I doubt youve ever been in a physical altercation if you think you could wrestle around with someone for 10 mins.
10 minutes is a LONG fucking time... If a fight goes on that long, something fucked up has most likely occurred.
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10 minutes is a LONG fucking time... If a fight goes on that long, something fucked up has most likely occurred.
not only that, I used to do a type of wrestling.
There arent many ppl that have the physical conditioning to go 10 mins non stop fighting/wrestling with someone.
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not only that, I used to do a type of wrestling.
There arent many ppl that have the physical conditioning to go 10 mins non stop fighting/wrestling with someone.
I actually wrestled in high school myself. 3 x 2 minute rounds would wear you the fuck out.
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I actually wrestled in high school myself. 3 x 2 minute rounds would wear you the fuck out.
exactly I did Judo and we had 5 min matches with brief stops and after 3 mins youre pretty fucking wiped
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hahah Im pretty sure I have a good idea of who you are in this world my friend. Youre likely just like every other internet bad ass who really isnt.
I doubt youve ever been in a physical altercation if you think you could wrestle around with someone for 10 mins.
Not a clue.
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GOD gave AMERICA the right to have guns.
bunch of stupid libs on here crying about crape
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We need more gimicks and trolls in this thread.
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We need more gimicks and trolls in this thread.
your probably a gimmik and a commy
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And, how did you arrive at that conclusion?
Regardless, since YOU are the one to start quoting biblical references, here's another: "Thou shall not steal."
I see that you conveniently did not mention that one.
yes the bible condemns certain behaviors.. and among them is judgement.. furthermore, no where does it enoucrage vigilantism in punishing those who do wrong.. ON TOP OF ALL THAT.. to "turn the other cheek" is to not only condemn self defense, but to condemn the preservation of self as well. if someone comes to rob your home, "turn the other cheek" (give them the keys to the car and the summer home as well).
I hope you become a defense attorney. Seriously, I'm tired of criminals getting off scott-free via loopholes and laws that grant them more rights than their victims. But, with you representing them, they're sure to get the chair.
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We need more gimicks and trolls in this thread.
Hahah well one good thing about this emotionally politicized movement for gun control is it brought new posters to the politics board.
Stick around Monty, the gimmicks can piss off
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/09/15-Year-Old-Boy-Uses-AR-15-To-Defend-House-Against-Burglars
What should the kiddies have done in this case?
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/09/15-Year-Old-Boy-Uses-AR-15-To-Defend-House-Against-Burglars
What should the kiddies have done in this case?
Since they are not full grown I believe they should have used a ladies driver as the shaft is more flexible and provides a whip action to help with swing speed
Again I'm not sure so we should check with our resident specialist, Woo?
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Since they are not full grown I believe they should have used a ladies driver as the shaft is more flexible and provides a whip action to help with swing speed
Again I'm not sure so we should check with our resident specialist, Woo?
i think they should have offered him bologna sandwiches
maybe they could have been friends
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I hope you become a defense attorney. Seriously, I'm tired of criminals getting off scott-free via loopholes and laws that grant them more rights than their victims. But, with you representing them, they're sure to get the chair.
Hahahahaha
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Hahah well one good thing about this emotionally politicized movement for gun control is it brought new posters to the politics board.
Stick around Monty, the gimmicks can piss off
Thanks. I considered taking a break from this thread, but some of this is better than anything on TV.
However, I can't determine if the "trolling" is, in fact, trolling or genuine idiocy.
Entertaining, either way.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/09/15-Year-Old-Boy-Uses-AR-15-To-Defend-House-Against-Burglars
What should the kiddies have done in this case?
I read the article, 3.
It's a shame there are so many nice intruders "getting the short end of the stick" these days.
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Hahahahaha
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I read the article, 3.
It's a shame there are so many nice intruders "getting the short end of the stick" these days.
According to leftist communists - the intruder is to be coddled and protected - the homeowner savaged.
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According to leftist communists - the intruder is to be coddled and protected - the homeowner savaged.
I don't know...it seems that even our liberal friends are siding with the mother in this thread.
Basically, anybody with a properly functioning brain is on the same page here.
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i think they should have offered him bologna sandwiches
maybe they could have been friends
::) ::)
Mother fucker better do better than a bologna sandwich then.
Oven pizza or some totinos pizza roles at least
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Mother fucker better do better than a bologna sandwich then.
Oven pizza or some totinos pizza roles at least
Done.
See. We can agree.
;D
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exactly I did Judo and we had 5 min matches with brief stops and after 3 mins youre pretty fucking wiped
Yep...that shit wipes you out quick. 10 minutes is like an eternity.
Of course the Canadian wants to desperately act the i-tough, lol.
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Yep...that shit wipes you out quick. 10 minutes is like an eternity.
Of course the Canadian wants to desperately act the i-tough, lol.
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anybody with any experience in fighting even if its in an organized venue like a sport knows that there is always someone out there bigger, faster, stronger or more conditioned than you.
Only an idiot with no experience in physical altercations would argue that they are bad ass enough to be able to defend themselves and family against all comers and not need a common equilizer like a gun.
you really dont know just how stupid and ignorant youre coming across Woo.
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anybody with any experience in fighting even if its in an organized venue like a sport knows that there is always someone out there bigger, faster, stronger or more conditioned than you.
Only an idiot with no experience in physical altercations would argue that they are bad ass enough to be able to defend themselves and family against all comers and not need a common equilizer like a gun.
you really dont know just how stupid and ignorant youre coming across Woo.
i honestly do not care
this is getbig
fuck yeah
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i honestly do not care
this is getbig
fuck yeah
it shows, I always spend hours researching the interweb for obscure and irrelevant webpages about a foreign country to post on a message board for things I dont care about ;)
LOL I told you this once already brain child this isnt the G&O
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it shows, I always spend hours researching the interweb for obscure and irrelevant webpages about a foreign country to post on a message board for things I dont care about ;)
LOL I told you this once already brain child this isnt the G&O
it's tough to tell with all of the personal attacks... :-*
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it's tough to tell with all of the personal attacks... :-*
did I hurt your feelings?
maybe we can ban online message boards so we can prevent that from happening?
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did I hurt your feelings?
maybe we can ban online message boards so we can prevent that from happening?
we should on ban assault message boards and tax any message boards earning over $250k
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Local News
Robbery victim wants to thank Good Samaritans who came to his rescue
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by Drew Karedes / KHOU 11 News
khou.com
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:32 PM
Updated Friday, Jan 11 at 9:46 PM
HOUSTON -- A couple of strangers came to the rescue when a man was robbed at gunpoint. Now, the victim wants to say thank you to the Good Samaritans.
Police believe the criminal who was canvassing a neighborhood in the 2500 block of Wichita near Hermann Park had no idea what he was in for when he picked his target.
The victim in this case had just walked back to his car from a bar around the corner.
Kevin Dorsey says he hadn’t even closed his car door Thursday night when a man wearing all black and a ski mask put a gun to his chest. The man took Dorsey’s wallet, cell phone and car keys.
After he was robbed, Dorsey began running down the street and says two men in a Mercedes asked him what had happened.
Dorsey told them and they not only caught up with the suspect, but they started shooting at him.
The suspect fired back. In the end, the two witnesses turned vigilantes won and took down the bad guy.
“I don’t believe in guns,” said Dorsey. “I don’t own a gun. I’m totally at the mercy of my saviors. They obviously sent two angels to help me. These people protected me when I couldn’t protect myself.”
After the robber had been shot, police say he jumped over a fence and was attacked by a German Shepherd. That attack prevented him from getting away.
The suspect, identified as Christopher Hutchins, is being treated at Ben Taub Hospital. He’s expected to recover.
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“I don’t believe in guns,” said Dorsey. “I don’t own a gun. I’m totally at the mercy of my saviors. They obviously sent two angels to help me. These people protected me when I couldn’t protect myself.”
Read and understand morons, read and understand!!!
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Read and understand morons, read and understand!!!
“I don’t believe in guns,” said Dorsey. “I don’t own a gun. I’m totally at the mercy of my saviors. They obviously sent two angels to help me..."
He doesn't "believe in guns," but he believes in the existence of angels firing guns and is thankful for those angels protecting him with their guns. Good representation of anti-gun people and their mindset.
After the robber had been shot, police say he jumped over a fence and was attacked by a German Shepherd. That attack prevented him from getting away.
That part made me LOL!!