and that version of mitt that gave the concession speech probably would have won the election.
agreed he wanted it more than anyone else in the country.
and that version of mitt that gave the concession speech probably would have won the election.
Yeah. I agree. The Mitt Romney would gave that concession speech (which, by the way, was pure class unlike a lot of other concession speeches) was actually relatable, passionate and came across as a genuine guy. in start contract to a lot of his appearances.Guess thats what happens after too long in politics... you lose who you really are, you become what you're supposed to be, which, ironically, is usually the polar opposite of what got you elected in the 1st place.
Simmons said he spoke privately with Romney.
“I said, ‘So what are you going to do for the next few weeks? Let’s do something fun,’ ” Simmons recalled. “And he said, ‘Uh, I’m going to be really busy.’ He said, ‘I have 400 people to get great jobs for.’ ”
This goes back to what I said in my thread about the 2004 election and all the "soul-searching" the Dems were doing. If you'd told anyone that just two years after Bush got re-elected, the GOP would lose the House and Senate and Obama would be elected two years after that, people would have accused you of smoking crack.
Herman Cain has already comeout in favor of starting a third party..(again)...if that happens, the GOP is doomedforever since third parties hurt the GOP more than the Dems
normally I agree.... BUT... Dems would have LOVED to have an option in 2012 that wasn't shitty ass obama.
howver, their options were the self-described severe conservative Mtt, or obama.
I think huntsmann would have grabbed a lot of dem votes.
what was so shitty about Obama exactly???
GOP’s Red America forced to rethink what it knows about the country
By Eli Saslow
HENDERSONVILLE, Tenn. — She arrived early to take apart the campaign office piece by piece, just as she felt so many other things about her life were being dismantled. Beth Cox wore a Mitt Romney T-shirt, a cross around her neck and fresh eyeliner, even though she had been crying on and off and knew her makeup was likely to run. A day after the election, she tuned the radio to Glenn Beck and began pulling posters and American flags off the wall.
Her calendar read “Victory Day!!” and she had planned to celebrate in the office by hosting a dance party and selling Romney souvenirs. But instead she was packing those souvenirs into boxes, which would be donated to a charity that sent clothes to South America. Instead a moving company was en route to close down the office in the next 48 hours, and her friends were calling every few minutes to see how she was doing.
“I will be okay,” she told one caller. “I just don’t think we will be okay.”
Here in the heart of Red America, Cox and many others spent last week grieving not only for themselves and their candidate but also for a country they now believe has gone wildly off track. The days after Barack Obama’s reelection gave birth to a saying in Central Tennessee: Once was a slip, but twice is a sign.
If, as Obama likes to say, the country has decided to “move forward,” it has also decided to move further away from the values and beliefs of a state where Romney won 60 percent of the vote, a county where he won 70 percent, and a town where he won nearly 80.
Among so many Romney voters, perhaps none had been as devoted to the cause — as indefatigable, as confident, as prayerful — as 44-year-old Beth Cox, a member of the school board and a volunteer who had committed to Romney early in the Republican primaries. She had run the small GOP campaign headquarters in Sumner County by herself for six days a week during the last four months. She had been the first in line to vote on the first day of early voting.
Now it was left to her to clean up the aftermath. She stood next to a space heater in a small building in the exurbs of Nashville, taking inventory of what supplies they had left and packing up boxes of red-white-and-blue streamers. She put away the pink Romney shirts, the white Romney-Ryan hats and the GOP bumper stickers with the Tennessee logo. Down came the sign that read: “We Built It!” Down came the elephant flag and the George W. Bush commemorative emblem. Down came the signed picture of Romney, with a typed inscription that read: “This is a great time to be a Republican.”
But now Cox was wondering: Was it?
She had devoted her life to causes she believed were at the heart of her faith and at the core of her Republican Party. She counseled young married families at church, spoke about right to life in area schools and became a stay-at-home mom with two daughters.
Now, in a single election night, parts of her country had legalized marijuana, approved gay marriage and resoundingly reelected a president who she worried would “accelerate our decline.”
While she took apart the office, a dozen friends and neighbors stopped by to share the same concerns.
“I just don’t get it,” the county sheriff said.
“I’m worried we won’t see another Republican president in our lifetime the way it’s going,” a GOP volunteer said.
“What country would want more years of this?” asked the newly elected alderman.
Cox shrugged back at them. “I don’t know anymore,” she said. “What the heck happened to the country? Who are we becoming?”
****
She turned on her computer and pulled up an electoral map that she had filled out a few days before the election. She had predicted the outcome twice — once coming up with a narrow Romney win and once more with a blowout.
Florida: red.
Colorado: red.
Virginia, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin: all red.
Everything in her version of America had confirmed her predictions: the confident anchors on Fox News; the Republican pollsters so sure of their data; the two-hour line outside her voting precinct, where Romney supporters hugged and honked for her handmade signs during a celebration that lasted until the results started coming in after sundown. Romney’s thorough defeat had come more as a shock than as a disappointment, and now Cox stared at the actual results on her computer and tried to imagine what the majority of her country believed.
“Virginia went blue? Really?” she said. “Southern-values Virginia?”
“And Colorado? Who the heck is living in Colorado? Do they want drugs, dependency, indulgence? Don’t they remember what this country is about?”
It was a country that she had thought she knew. As a kid, she had seen it from the back of a station wagon, traveling to 40 states in a blur of peanut butter crackers and Holiday Inns with a mother who taught U.S. history.
“I am not naïve. I’m not ignorant,” Cox said. She had graduated from the University of Kentucky and lived for a few years in California before moving to raise her family in Tennessee. But suddenly the map on her computer depicted a divided country she could barely recognize.
She blamed some of the divisiveness on Republicans. The party had gotten “way too white,” she said, and she hoped it would never again run a presidential ticket without including a woman or a minority. The tea party was an extremist movement that needed to be “neutralized,” she said, and Romney’s campaign had suffered irreparable damage when high-profile Republicans spoke about “crazy immigration talk and legitimate rape.”
But many other aspects of the division seemed fundamental and harder to solve. There was the America of increased secularism that legalized marijuana. And there was her America, where her two teenage daughters are not allowed to read “Harry Potter” or “Twilight,” and where one of them wrote in a school paper: “God is the center and the main foundation of my family.”
There was the America of gay marriage and the America of her Southern Baptist church, where 7,000 came to listen on Sundays, and where church literature described marriage as “the uniting of one man and one woman.”
There was the America of Obama and her America in Tennessee, where last week Republicans had won 95 percent of local races and secured a supermajority in the state legislature.
She could sense liberalism creeping closer, and she worried about what Red America would look like after four more years. Nashville itself had gone for Obama, and 400,000 more people in Tennessee had signed up for food stamps in the last five years to further a culture of dependency. The ACLU had sued her school board for allowing youth pastors to visit middle school cafeterias during lunch. Some of her friends had begun to wonder if the country was lost, and if only God could save it.
She closed her computer.
“God put us in the desert,” she said. “We are in the desert right now.”
****
Later that night, she left her two-story house in the suburbs and headed to a church a mile outside of town. It was her place of comfort — the place where she always found an answer. She drove onto the church’s sprawling campus, past the children’s center, the volleyball courts and techno-lit recreation room for teenagers and parked in front of a small building. Then she walked up to the second floor to lead her weekly prayer group of 25 women.
It was a demographic that, in so many other places, would have voted for Obama: white women, college-educated and in their early-to-mid-20s, most of them upper-middle class. But here they had almost all voted for Romney, and they consoled each other as they entered the room. Cox joined them in the circle and bent her head in prayer.
“Yes, Lord,” she said. “We are saying yes to honoring you, but no to the junk of this world, to the wickedness, the self-gratification, the path that we are just saddened by. We choose your path, Lord.”
It was a path that had worked for her, providing strength and stability during her parents’ rocky divorce, and then helping her transform from a stubbornly independent woman — the “feminist, I-am-woman, hear-me-roar type,” she said — into a mother and a wife who respected what she called the “natural order of the household.” She had two beautiful daughters who earned A’s and a husband who took time off from his job as a pastor for annual family “playcations” to museums and amusement parks. Local Republicans were encouraging her to run for state office, but she didn’t want to give up her volunteering, her scrapbooking, her weekend getaways with her daughters — her “Godly life,” she said.
It was the same life she wanted for the women in this room — newly married, new to motherhood and beginning to sort out priorities of their own.
“The world will tell you to be so many things,” she advised them, and on this night she talked to them about the importance of preserving life, the sanctity of marriage, the advantages of raising children at home and the importance of “relying on family, and on your core values, and not on the government.”
“It’s not an easy road to be a Christian, and if it was, everybody would be on it,” she said. She passed out blank white note cards and asked each woman to write down a worry to surrender to God. Then, before closing, she asked what they wanted to pray for.
“Our president,” said one, and the women in the group nodded.
“Our values,” said another.
“All people in our country who are lost.”
“The soul of America.”
“Amen,” Cox said.
****
She came back into the Romney office again the next morning. The moving truck was waiting outside.
“It’s so depressing,” she said, walking into the office. “Let’s just get it done.”
They threw out yard signs, hauled office supplies into storage and donated some furniture to Goodwill. Cox swept the floor and then came outside to watch the mover climb on top of his trailer to take down the “Sumner County Republican Party” banner that had hung on the front of the building. Four months of dedication and work — the sale of 1,600 signs, 500 bracelets, 1,200 buttons and a few hundred hats — reduced to nothing in 48 hours.
She stood in the cold and stared at the two-story building. It had belonged to a doctor’s practice that had closed, and then to a newspaper that had downsized, and finally to a campaign that had failed to win office based on its vision of America.
She took out her phone and snapped a picture.
“So that’s it,” she said. “It’s all gone.”
GOP’s Red America forced to rethink what it knows about the country
By Eli Saslow
HENDERSONVILLE, Tenn. — She arrived early to take apart the campaign office piece by piece, just as she felt so many other things about her life were being dismantled. Beth Cox wore a Mitt Romney T-shirt, a cross around her neck and fresh eyeliner, even though she had been crying on and off and knew her makeup was likely to run. A day after the election, she tuned the radio to Glenn Beck and began pulling posters and American flags off the wall.
Her calendar read “Victory Day!!” and she had planned to celebrate in the office by hosting a dance party and selling Romney souvenirs. But instead she was packing those souvenirs into boxes, which would be donated to a charity that sent clothes to South America. Instead a moving company was en route to close down the office in the next 48 hours, and her friends were calling every few minutes to see how she was doing.
“I will be okay,” she told one caller. “I just don’t think we will be okay.”
Here in the heart of Red America, Cox and many others spent last week grieving not only for themselves and their candidate but also for a country they now believe has gone wildly off track. The days after Barack Obama’s reelection gave birth to a saying in Central Tennessee: Once was a slip, but twice is a sign.
If, as Obama likes to say, the country has decided to “move forward,” it has also decided to move further away from the values and beliefs of a state where Romney won 60 percent of the vote, a county where he won 70 percent, and a town where he won nearly 80.
Among so many Romney voters, perhaps none had been as devoted to the cause — as indefatigable, as confident, as prayerful — as 44-year-old Beth Cox, a member of the school board and a volunteer who had committed to Romney early in the Republican primaries. She had run the small GOP campaign headquarters in Sumner County by herself for six days a week during the last four months. She had been the first in line to vote on the first day of early voting.
Now it was left to her to clean up the aftermath. She stood next to a space heater in a small building in the exurbs of Nashville, taking inventory of what supplies they had left and packing up boxes of red-white-and-blue streamers. She put away the pink Romney shirts, the white Romney-Ryan hats and the GOP bumper stickers with the Tennessee logo. Down came the sign that read: “We Built It!” Down came the elephant flag and the George W. Bush commemorative emblem. Down came the signed picture of Romney, with a typed inscription that read: “This is a great time to be a Republican.”
But now Cox was wondering: Was it?
She had devoted her life to causes she believed were at the heart of her faith and at the core of her Republican Party. She counseled young married families at church, spoke about right to life in area schools and became a stay-at-home mom with two daughters.
Now, in a single election night, parts of her country had legalized marijuana, approved gay marriage and resoundingly reelected a president who she worried would “accelerate our decline.”
While she took apart the office, a dozen friends and neighbors stopped by to share the same concerns.
“I just don’t get it,” the county sheriff said.
“I’m worried we won’t see another Republican president in our lifetime the way it’s going,” a GOP volunteer said.
“What country would want more years of this?” asked the newly elected alderman.
Cox shrugged back at them. “I don’t know anymore,” she said. “What the heck happened to the country? Who are we becoming?”
****
She turned on her computer and pulled up an electoral map that she had filled out a few days before the election. She had predicted the outcome twice — once coming up with a narrow Romney win and once more with a blowout.
Florida: red.
Colorado: red.
Virginia, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin: all red.
Everything in her version of America had confirmed her predictions: the confident anchors on Fox News; the Republican pollsters so sure of their data; the two-hour line outside her voting precinct, where Romney supporters hugged and honked for her handmade signs during a celebration that lasted until the results started coming in after sundown. Romney’s thorough defeat had come more as a shock than as a disappointment, and now Cox stared at the actual results on her computer and tried to imagine what the majority of her country believed.
“Virginia went blue? Really?” she said. “Southern-values Virginia?”
“And Colorado? Who the heck is living in Colorado? Do they want drugs, dependency, indulgence? Don’t they remember what this country is about?”
It was a country that she had thought she knew. As a kid, she had seen it from the back of a station wagon, traveling to 40 states in a blur of peanut butter crackers and Holiday Inns with a mother who taught U.S. history.
“I am not naïve. I’m not ignorant,” Cox said. She had graduated from the University of Kentucky and lived for a few years in California before moving to raise her family in Tennessee. But suddenly the map on her computer depicted a divided country she could barely recognize.
She blamed some of the divisiveness on Republicans. The party had gotten “way too white,” she said, and she hoped it would never again run a presidential ticket without including a woman or a minority. The tea party was an extremist movement that needed to be “neutralized,” she said, and Romney’s campaign had suffered irreparable damage when high-profile Republicans spoke about “crazy immigration talk and legitimate rape.”
But many other aspects of the division seemed fundamental and harder to solve. There was the America of increased secularism that legalized marijuana. And there was her America, where her two teenage daughters are not allowed to read “Harry Potter” or “Twilight,” and where one of them wrote in a school paper: “God is the center and the main foundation of my family.”
There was the America of gay marriage and the America of her Southern Baptist church, where 7,000 came to listen on Sundays, and where church literature described marriage as “the uniting of one man and one woman.”
There was the America of Obama and her America in Tennessee, where last week Republicans had won 95 percent of local races and secured a supermajority in the state legislature.
She could sense liberalism creeping closer, and she worried about what Red America would look like after four more years. Nashville itself had gone for Obama, and 400,000 more people in Tennessee had signed up for food stamps in the last five years to further a culture of dependency. The ACLU had sued her school board for allowing youth pastors to visit middle school cafeterias during lunch. Some of her friends had begun to wonder if the country was lost, and if only God could save it.
She closed her computer.
“God put us in the desert,” she said. “We are in the desert right now.”
****
Later that night, she left her two-story house in the suburbs and headed to a church a mile outside of town. It was her place of comfort — the place where she always found an answer. She drove onto the church’s sprawling campus, past the children’s center, the volleyball courts and techno-lit recreation room for teenagers and parked in front of a small building. Then she walked up to the second floor to lead her weekly prayer group of 25 women.
It was a demographic that, in so many other places, would have voted for Obama: white women, college-educated and in their early-to-mid-20s, most of them upper-middle class. But here they had almost all voted for Romney, and they consoled each other as they entered the room. Cox joined them in the circle and bent her head in prayer.
“Yes, Lord,” she said. “We are saying yes to honoring you, but no to the junk of this world, to the wickedness, the self-gratification, the path that we are just saddened by. We choose your path, Lord.”
It was a path that had worked for her, providing strength and stability during her parents’ rocky divorce, and then helping her transform from a stubbornly independent woman — the “feminist, I-am-woman, hear-me-roar type,” she said — into a mother and a wife who respected what she called the “natural order of the household.” She had two beautiful daughters who earned A’s and a husband who took time off from his job as a pastor for annual family “playcations” to museums and amusement parks. Local Republicans were encouraging her to run for state office, but she didn’t want to give up her volunteering, her scrapbooking, her weekend getaways with her daughters — her “Godly life,” she said.
It was the same life she wanted for the women in this room — newly married, new to motherhood and beginning to sort out priorities of their own.
“The world will tell you to be so many things,” she advised them, and on this night she talked to them about the importance of preserving life, the sanctity of marriage, the advantages of raising children at home and the importance of “relying on family, and on your core values, and not on the government.”
“It’s not an easy road to be a Christian, and if it was, everybody would be on it,” she said. She passed out blank white note cards and asked each woman to write down a worry to surrender to God. Then, before closing, she asked what they wanted to pray for.
“Our president,” said one, and the women in the group nodded.
“Our values,” said another.
“All people in our country who are lost.”
“The soul of America.”
“Amen,” Cox said.
****
She came back into the Romney office again the next morning. The moving truck was waiting outside.
“It’s so depressing,” she said, walking into the office. “Let’s just get it done.”
They threw out yard signs, hauled office supplies into storage and donated some furniture to Goodwill. Cox swept the floor and then came outside to watch the mover climb on top of his trailer to take down the “Sumner County Republican Party” banner that had hung on the front of the building. Four months of dedication and work — the sale of 1,600 signs, 500 bracelets, 1,200 buttons and a few hundred hats — reduced to nothing in 48 hours.
She stood in the cold and stared at the two-story building. It had belonged to a doctor’s practice that had closed, and then to a newspaper that had downsized, and finally to a campaign that had failed to win office based on its vision of America.
She took out her phone and snapped a picture.
“So that’s it,” she said. “It’s all gone.”
seems simple enough to me...
Mitt's god wanted Obama to win...
what other explanation can there me for Mitt and his devotees?
fool...
Jindal was attacking Romney for those statements as well.
You guys are hilarious, you buy into the shit about romney argue for him till your blue in the face then buy into the bullshit against him once it's convenient. You are a group of fucking retards, Fox has admitted liars, false polls and had anchors magically switch positions after the election. It is a reflection of the idiots they pander to.
Romney Blames Loss on Obama’s ‘Gifts’ to Minorities and Young Voters
By ASHLEY PARKER
Saying that he and his team still felt “troubled” by his loss to President Obama, Mitt Romney on Wednesday attributed his defeat in part to what he called big policy “gifts” that the president had bestowed on loyal Democratic constituencies, including young voters, African-Americans and Hispanics.
In a conference call with fund-raisers and donors to his campaign, Mr. Romney said Wednesday afternoon that the president had followed the “old playbook” of using targeted initiatives to woo specific interest groups — “especially the African-American community, the Hispanic community and young people.”
“In each case, they were very generous in what they gave to those groups,” Mr. Romney said, contrasting Mr. Obama’s strategy to his own of “talking about big issues for the whole country: military strategy, foreign policy, a strong economy, creating jobs and so forth.”
Mr. Romney’s comments in the 20-minute conference call came after his running mate, Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, told WISC-TV in Madison on Monday that their loss was a result of Mr. Obama’s strength in “urban areas,” an analysis that did not account for Mr. Obama’s victories in more rural states like Iowa and New Hampshire or the decrease in the number of votes for the president relative to 2008 in critical urban counties in Ohio.
“With regards to the young people, for instance, a forgiveness of college loan interest was a big gift,” Mr. Romney said. “Free contraceptives were very big with young, college-aged women. And then, finally, Obamacare also made a difference for them, because as you know, anybody now 26 years of age and younger was now going to be part of their parents’ plan, and that was a big gift to young people. They turned out in large numbers, a larger share in this election even than in 2008.”
The president’s health care plan, he said, was also a useful tool in mobilizing black and Hispanic voters. Though Mr. Romney won the white vote with 59 percent, according to exit polls, minorities coalesced around the president in overwhelming numbers: 93 percent of blacks and 71 percent of Hispanics.
“You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you’re now going to get free health care, particularly if you don’t have it, getting free health care worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity — I mean, this is huge,” Mr. Romney said. “Likewise with Hispanic voters, free health care was a big plus. But in addition with regards to Hispanic voters, the amnesty for children of illegals, the so-called Dream Act kids, was a huge plus for that voting group.”
Nationwide, Mr. Obama won a slightly smaller share of 18- to 29-year-old voters than he did in 2008, according to exit polls, though he increased his share in battleground states like Florida, Ohio and Virginia. Exit polls showed little appreciable difference between Mr. Obama’s performance among black voters nationwide and in many swing states in this election and in 2008. Among Hispanic voters nationwide, Mr. Obama won a greater share in 2012 than in 2008, but perhaps more important, he succeeded in increasing the share of Hispanic voters among the total voting population in key states, including Colorado and Nevada, exit polls showed.
During the call, Mr. Romney was by turns disappointed and pragmatic, expressing his frustration at the outcome on Election Day. A person who was on the call, which included hundreds of participants, let The New York Times listen in.
“I’m very sorry that we didn’t win,” Mr. Romney said on the call. “I know that you expected to win, we expected to win, we were disappointed with the result, we hadn’t anticipated it, and it was very close, but close doesn’t count in this business.”
He continued: “And so now we’re looking and saying, ‘O.K., what can we do going forward?’ But frankly, we’re still so troubled by the past, it’s hard to put together our plans for the future.”
He added that he was hoping to find a way for the close-knit group, which excelled in fund-raising but was ultimately unable to propel him into the Oval Office, “to stay connected so that we can stay informed and have influence on the direction of the party, and perhaps the selection of a future nominee, which, by the way, will not be me.” (He suggested an annual meeting, as well as a monthly newsletter.)
In a news conference of his own Wednesday, Mr. Obama, asked if he still planned to meet with Mr. Romney for a postelection discussion, spoke positively of his former opponent, saying that he “did a terrific job of running the Olympics,” and that he appreciated Mr. Romney’s ideas on government efficiency.
“I’m not either prejudging what he’s interested in doing, nor am I suggesting I’ve got some specific assignment,” the president said, when asked about Mr. Romney. “But what I want to do is to get ideas from him and see if there are some ways that we can potentially work together.”
You guys are hilarious, you buy into the shit about romney argue for him till your blue in the face then buy into the bullshit against him once it's convenient. You are a group of fucking retards, Fox has admitted liars, false polls and had anchors magically switch positions after the election. It is a reflection of the idiots they pander to.
You guys are hilarious, you buy into the shit about romney argue for him till your blue in the face then buy into the bullshit against him once it's convenient. You are a group of fucking retards, Fox has admitted liars, false polls and had anchors magically switch positions after the election. It is a reflection of the idiots they pander to.
Ryan is never going to be on a national ticket again either
Ryan is never going to be on a national ticket again either
yeah, 33, woudl you agree that there are probably TEN republicans who would be better choices than Paul Ryan?
he ended up being a timid liability they had to HIDE for the last 3 weeks of the campaign.
Rubio will be prepared in 2020, and possibly in 2016.... but he will look like a rookie up there.
you KNOW the look of a person who is probably prepared for a position.
and you know the look of a person who is DEFINITELY prepared for a position.
Rubio will have the 1st look.
Hilary, jeb, and others will have that 2nd look.
You think Jeb will be a contender?
Another Bush?
i think he's going to be among the top 3 experienced GOP statesman in the discussion. I can't name many repubs with the connections, $, power, confidence, respect, and ability to lead, that jeb possesses.
It'll be laughable... a Rubio lecturing Jeb on how the world really works lol... Jeb's family WROTE the fcking history books.
I think another Bush/Clinton matchup in 2016 is entirely possible.
i think he's going to be among the top 3 experienced GOP statesman in the discussion. I can't name many repubs with the connections, $, power, confidence, respect, and ability to lead, that jeb possesses.
It'll be laughable... a Rubio lecturing Jeb on how the world really works lol... Jeb's family WROTE the fcking history books.
I think another Bush/Clinton matchup in 2016 is entirely possible.
New Rules for the board - go read them.
Not Allowed: "Abusive Ad-Hominem", meaning: No insults, name calling, or personal attacks what so ever or Blatant baiting/bagering to get an angry response
Failure to follow this rule will lead to a ban.
Thank you.
I'm not expecting an "angry" response
why would you be angry because I asked you a question about something you said you were going to do?
As far as I am concerned that post of yours was baiting and badgering. If you want to know what 3333 is going to do, PM him or take it to another board.
333333, is free to post here as is anyone as long as they follow the rules and guidelines. specifically in this case highlighted in the new rules.
when did I suggest he wasn't free to post
he started a thread saying he was leaving (after also making the same statement many times)
I just asked him if he still intends to leave
bfd
The biggest cry for attention one can imagine! Pathetic.
“There is noRomney333333 wing in the party that he needs to address,” said Ed Rogers, a longtime Republican strategist. “He never developed an emotional foothold within the GOP so he can exit the stage anytime and no one will mourn.”
Thanks for playing. Bye. ::)
The biggest cry for attention one can imagine! Pathetic.
“There is noRomney333333 wing in the party that he needs to address,” said Ed Rogers, a longtime Republican strategist. “He never developed an emotional foothold within the GOP so he can exit the stage anytime and no one will mourn.”
Thanks for playing. Bye. ::)
As far as I am concerned that post of yours was baiting and badgering. If you want to know what 3333 is going to do, PM him or take it to another board.
333333, is free to post here as is anyone as long as they follow the rules and guidelines. specifically in this case highlighted in the new rules.
Nobody said he can't post here. But pointing out that someone says X but does Y isn't "baiting and badgering" and if you think it is, well... you must have some weird definition of what constitutes "bating" and "badgering". And I'm putting it mildly.
when did I suggest he wasn't free to post
he started a thread saying he was leaving (after also making the same statement many times)
I just asked him if he still intends to leave
bfd
That's exactly how i would feel if you and your ghetto welfare family were killed in any way though i suspect in your case it would be murder/suicide
Note to mods. My statement is the equivalent of 333's so if you're going to allow him gratuitous personal attacks on the POTUS then it must be acceptable for someone to say the exact same thing about him
Note to 333 - only a few hundred more posts and you're gone right?
only 257 more posts and then you're gone.....right?
only 308 more posts until you're gone for good......right?
only 381 posts until you are gone for good
right?
only 435 more posts and you're gone
right?
you should quit at 99,999 as you said you would
I'm sure that's how it appears to you
btw - are you still leaving @ 99,999
Why all the PM's instead of being a man and showing up to take your beating
You're still leaving at 99,999 right?
There's far more to it than that. Quite a bit of history over the last few years. Time to move on.
LMAO @ "history"
all I did was tolerate his crap like everyone else while the mods did nothing
why suddenly give a shit now ?
I explained why earlier.
PM me back
you obviously take this board much more seriously than I do
I am a mod. I should. People should be able to post and debate in a civilized way free from getting maliciously insulted in place of good counter points.
Don't you agree?
Or do you think a play ground culture of frequent vile attacks is better?
it's really too bad that Romney doesn't drink
I can't think of a better reason to get hammered than getting your ass kicked in a national election and not even have any clue that it was going to happen
welcome to the board
when did you get here?
I can think of another reason. A week after the election officials throughout the part effectively banish you from their company.
And therein lies Romney's problem: he was never one of them and they never considered him one of them. Dole and McCain are considered party elders; Romney will not have that honor. They want him to go away and stay away. That's gotta hurt! It is one thing to sort of know that you were never really wanted at the party and quite another to have it declared by so many party officials so publicly across the country. :-[
:). I am certainly not without sin here.
When will you get back to the straw I knew who debated threads with great info, good arguments and counter points free from ad hom?
Let's roll and let the debating begin. ;)
there is no "ad hom" in me asking 333 about a position he stated and promoted
I know.
I am sure you can see the wisdom in having a no badgering and baiting rule.
Like I said, badger him some place else or PM him.
It's all good.
Now com on man. Let it go, let's move on.
We got 4 more years of OB, what can he do? What should he do? What will he do? Will it be right, wrong, effective, in effective.......?
I wanted Romney to win. Not for best of reasons, but more the worse kind stemming from Obama.
::)
I am sure you can see the wisdom in having a no badgering and baiting rule.
As for me, I see no “wisdom” in a rule as vague and poorly worded as that. I won't even argue that this rule cannot be enforced properly, consistently and with objective criteria.
I'd call you a buffoon for thinking the rule is wise, but I wouldn't want to "badger" or "bait" you. That would be against the rules! ::)
See what I did there?
when was the last time that you saw McWay, 333386, Fury,Tommy, etc concede a point????????????????
I understand what you are trying to do Ozmo,....and I back you 100%....but I think what causes most of the arguments on here is that there is no objective person who can verify facts and call people out for baiting and lying......I think that should be your role but I realize that this would entail a lot of work by you and thats not fair to you since you have to work, have family to take care of , etc....
the conservatives on here NEVER EVER admit to being wrong.....they just continue to spew out nonsense even when they are shown proof that they are wrong....this then leads to name calling on their part and from the liberal side as well..............
when was the last time that you saw McWay, 333386, Fury,Tommy, etc concede a point????????????????
Tommy will sometimes concede a point and then in the next sentence will backtrack and again tell you why he is right :)
I understand what you are trying to do Ozmo,....and I back you 100%....but I think what causes most of the arguments on here is that there is no objective person who can verify facts and call people out for baiting and lying......I think that should be your role but I realize that this would entail a lot of work by you and thats not fair to you since you have to work, have family to take care of , etc....
the conservatives on here NEVER EVER admit to being wrong.....they just continue to spew out nonsense even when they are shown proof that they are wrong....this then leads to name calling on their part and from the liberal side as well..............
when was the last time that you saw McWay, 333386, Fury,Tommy, etc concede a point????????????????
Tommy will sometimes concede a point and then in the next sentence will backtrack and again tell you why he is right :)
That cuts both ways - the conservatives do it and the liberals do it. People like 333386 and Benny B. are different sides of the same coin. They say the same things - it's only the details that change.
The blind partisans do it.
When do you ever concede a point? Do we need to point out how asinine "OBAMA IS KICKING SOANDSO'S ASS - BLAHBLAH DOING AMAZING" only for you to whine when it's later refuted?
The hypocrisy of some people on here is astounding.
Gingrich on Romney’s ‘gifts’ comments: ‘It’s nuts’
By Dylan Stableford
Like several other prominent Republicans, Newt Gingrich slammed Mitt Romney's assertion in a conference call with donors last week that he lost the 2012 presidential election because of "gifts" President Barack Obama gave to blacks, Hispanics and younger voters during his first term in the White House.
"It's nuts," Gingrich told guest host Martha Raddatz on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday. "First of all, it's insulting. This would be like Wal-Mart having a bad week and going, 'The customers have really been unruly.' I mean, the job of a political leader in part is to understand the people. If we can't offer a better future that is believable to more people, we're not going to win."
Last week, the former House Speaker admitted he was "dumbfounded" by Obama's victory--and Romney's poor performance at the polls.
"The president won an extraordinary victory," Gingrich said on NBC's "Today" show. "And the fact is we owe him the respect of trying to understand what they did and how they did it. But if you had said to me three weeks ago, Mitt Romney would get fewer votes than John McCain and it looks like he'll be 2 million fewer, I would have been dumbfounded."
But the disbelief soon turned to disillusion over Romney's divisive comments.
"I'm very disappointed with Governor Romney's analysis, which I believe is insulting and profoundly wrong," Gingrich said in an interview with KLRU-TV in Austin. "First of all, we didn't lose Asian-Americans because they got any gifts. He did worse with Asian-Americans than he did with Latinos. This is the hardest-working and most successful ethnic group in America--they ain't into gifts.
"Second, it's an insult to all Americans," he continued. "It reduces us to economic entities. You have no passion, no idealism, no dreams, no philosophy. If it had been that simple, my question would be, 'Why didn't you outbid him?' He had enough billionaire supporters, if buying the electorate was the key, he could have got all his super PAC friends together and said, don't buy ads, give gifts. Be like the northwest Indians who have gift-giving ceremonies. We could have gone town-by-town and said, 'Come here, let me give you gifts. Here are Republican gifts.' An elephant coming in with gifts on it."
I'm still waiting for Romney to share how he was going to get 12 million people working again with us. He kept stating it over and over... now that he lost I guess he wants to take his little ball (read : plan) and go home with it. Sour grapes huh? Some patriot. I guess you can't love your country unless you are the winner. ::)
The above is sarcasm for those followers who were stupid enough to believe for one minute that he actually had a plan.
Gingrich on Romney’s ‘gifts’ comments: ‘It’s nuts’
By Dylan Stableford
Like several other prominent Republicans, Newt Gingrich slammed Mitt Romney's assertion in a conference call with donors last week that he lost the 2012 presidential election because of "gifts" President Barack Obama gave to blacks, Hispanics and younger voters during his first term in the White House.
"It's nuts," Gingrich told guest host Martha Raddatz on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday. "First of all, it's insulting. This would be like Wal-Mart having a bad week and going, 'The customers have really been unruly.' I mean, the job of a political leader in part is to understand the people. If we can't offer a better future that is believable to more people, we're not going to win."
Last week, the former House Speaker admitted he was "dumbfounded" by Obama's victory--and Romney's poor performance at the polls.
"The president won an extraordinary victory," Gingrich said on NBC's "Today" show. "And the fact is we owe him the respect of trying to understand what they did and how they did it. But if you had said to me three weeks ago, Mitt Romney would get fewer votes than John McCain and it looks like he'll be 2 million fewer, I would have been dumbfounded."
But the disbelief soon turned to disillusion over Romney's divisive comments.
"I'm very disappointed with Governor Romney's analysis, which I believe is insulting and profoundly wrong," Gingrich said in an interview with KLRU-TV in Austin. "First of all, we didn't lose Asian-Americans because they got any gifts. He did worse with Asian-Americans than he did with Latinos. This is the hardest-working and most successful ethnic group in America--they ain't into gifts.
"Second, it's an insult to all Americans," he continued. "It reduces us to economic entities. You have no passion, no idealism, no dreams, no philosophy. If it had been that simple, my question would be, 'Why didn't you outbid him?' He had enough billionaire supporters, if buying the electorate was the key, he could have got all his super PAC friends together and said, don't buy ads, give gifts. Be like the northwest Indians who have gift-giving ceremonies. We could have gone town-by-town and said, 'Come here, let me give you gifts. Here are Republican gifts.' An elephant coming in with gifts on it."
The Florida senator highlighted N.W.A’s “Straight Outta Compton
Correct - Rupert Murdoch actually called Obama's media buys smarter: "Obama tv buying operation infinitely smarter"
http://www.siliconbeat.com/2012/10/14/rupert-murdoch-plunges-into-u-s-presidential-election-on-twitter/
Obama bought the ads months before the election - Romney team claimed they PREFERRED to pay more if it meant they could choose the EXACT times/stations/shows in which the ads would run. Obama ran the ads in bulk - while ROmney tried to very specifically target certain viewers.
The win on the media buys goes to the community organizer. Romney was disorganized and all of the map the entire campaign.
Obama had an amazing organization...he has perfected campaigning to a fine art.....just him beating Hillary was amazing considering the influence and big money donors of the Clintons
Obama had an amazing organization...he has perfected campaigning to a fine art.....just him beating Hillary was amazing considering the influence and big money donors of the Clintons
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He had the jobless welfare thugs.
remember all the people who said he was a mess with no campaign strength, and that community organizers aren't a real job?
He beat mccain, beat hilary, beat romney...
Obama also has David Axelrod.....that guy is a genius plain and simple..also he knows how to run black candidates for office.....there have been only three black senators since reconstruction...David got two of them elecxted and got Obama to the presidency
as for your comment about community organizing, you are right...people make fun of Obama for having such a job but his chicago organization is amazing in how they run his campaigns
axelrod will be probably make ten million dollars getting the 2016 Dem elected.
Yes, people will gloat "rats fleeing the ship" when he quietly resigns to start his consulting firm.
Then the dude will community organize his way to another win - Imagine his ass with a superPAC, $300 mil to spend, and all his experience...
Add in Hilary, Bill, Obama campaigning for them if he's popular at the time... and the theme being "One last clinton term".
It'd be tough to beat. Any-other-dem would be easy to beat though.
agreed...and blacks LOVE Hillary...and so do women who view her as their cross-bearer......she would do well with independents as well I think....not to mention Hillary would clean up with foreign donations since everybody in the world knows her..and her foreign policy experience would destroy the Republicans
4 dead in Benghazi salt disagree.
not the first time our embassies have been attacked...not the last either...the British embassies have been attacked as well....Embassies are vulnerable.....embassies are attacked all the time
No they are not. This only happens on Obama's watch.
First time ambassador killed in 30 years.
First time ambassador killed in 30 years.
Obama also has David Axelrod.....that guy is a genius plain and simple..also he knows how to run black candidates for office.....there have been only three black senators since reconstruction...David got two of them elecxted and got Obama to the presidency
as for your comment about community organizing, you are right...people make fun of Obama for having such a job but his chicago organization is amazing in how they run his campaigns
Conservative Republicans fight back after Romney loss
By Paul Kane and Rosalind S. Helderman
Evangelical leaders and conservative activists have a simple message for establishment Republicans about Mitt Romney’s failed presidential bid: We told you so.
After nearly two weeks of listening to GOP officials pledge to assert greater control over the party and its most strident voices in the wake of Romney’s loss, grass-roots activists have begun to fight back, saying that they are not to blame for the party’s losses in November.
“The moderates have had their candidate in 2008 and they had their candidate in 2012. And they got crushed in both elections. Now they tell us we have to keep moderating. If we do that, will we win?” said Bob Vander Plaats, president of the Family Leader. Vander Plaats is an influential Christian conservative who opposed Romney in the Iowa caucuses 10 months ago and opposed Sen. John McCain’s candidacy four years ago.
The conservative backlash sets up an internal fight for the direction of the Republican Party, as many top leaders in Washington have proposed moderating their views on citizenship for illegal immigrants, to appeal to Latino voters. In addition, many top GOP officials have called for softening the party’s rhetoric on social issues, following the embarrassing showing by Senate candidates who were routed after publicly musing about denying abortion services to women who had been raped.
Ted Cruz, a tea party favorite, trounced Texas’s establishment candidate in a primary on his way to becoming the second Hispanic Republican in the Senate, and the battle he waged in the Lone Star State epitomizes the fight between the two sides. Although he is considered a rising star with a personal biography that GOP leaders wish to promote, Cruz falls squarely in the camp that thinks Romney was not conservative enough and did not fully articulate a conservative contrast to President Obama, except during the first presidential debate.
“It was the one time we actually contested ideas, presented two viewpoints and directions for the country,” he said at the Federalist Society’s annual dinner in Washington. “And then, inevitably, there are these mandarins of politics, who give the voice: ‘Don’t show any contrasts. Don’t rock the boat.’ So by the third debate, I’m pretty certain Mitt Romney actually French-kissed Barack Obama.”
Rick Santorum, a former senator from Pennsylvania who finished second to Romney in the GOP primary, lampooned Romney’s assertion that Obama’s victory was fueled by “gifts” to core liberal constituencies in the form of legislative favors.
“The American people do not want ‘gifts’ from their leaders, particularly when these gifts leave a steep bill for our children to pay, but they do want us to be on their side,” Santorum wrote in a USA Today op-ed published Monday. He placed the blame on the national party, saying it lacked an appealing agenda: “We as a party, the party of Ronald Reagan and ‘Morning in America,’ failed to provide an agenda that shows we care.”
The dispute began to take shape soon after Obama was declared the winner and Republicans, who had hoped to claim the Senate majority, lost two seats. Two days after the election, House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) told ABC News that the Republicans’ mission was to appeal to nonwhite voters: “How do we speak to all Americans? You know, not just to people who look like us and act like us, but how do we speak to all Americans?”
The fight ahead will come in two phases, the first being legislative debates on taxes, entitlements and immigration, and the second in the GOP primary battles in the 2014 midterm elections.
Congressional Republican leaders have rejected Obama’s call for higher tax rates on the wealthiest Americans, but they have opened the door to more revenue streaming into the Treasury by limiting exemptions and closing loopholes as part of a broad tax-code overhaul. The president says those measures would not produce enough revenue.
More problematic for Republicans is the drift of Hispanic voters into the Democratic fold. Obama won among Hispanic voters by 44 percentage points this year, up eight points from 2008.
“Hispanics are an ever-important part of the electorate that can’t be ignored. The scope of the challenge is broad, but there is opportunity ahead for conservatives to engage,” Jennifer S. Korn of the Hispanic Leadership Network, a Republican-funded group designed to do outreach, wrote in a memo circulated over the weekend.
Korn warned that two reliably Republican states worth 49 electoral votes combined could become swing states if demographic trendlines continue. In 2004, George W. Bush tied in the Hispanic vote in Texas and lost in Arizona by 13 percentage points. Romney lost the Hispanic vote by more than 40 points in both states.
After several years of focusing on border security as the centerpiece of their immigration proposals, many senior party officials have reversed course and suggested that they should at least support the DREAM Act, which would allow the children of illegal immigrants to avoid deportation.
Such a move would spark a huge internal fight with some conservatives. Dan Stein, president of the hard-line Federation for American Immigration Reform, insisted that the 2012 election was decided on issues other than immigration and that the push for the party to change its position represents opportunism by those who have always favored a more accommodating approach. He said the party’s elite is captive to business interests who favor increased immigration to reduce labor costs.
“There’s no evidence, none, that amnesty will bond Hispanics to the Republican Party,” he said. “This post-election chatter is coming from people who, for the most part, have generally disagreed with the need for stronger border control or less immigration. . . . This is going to be a long, protracted debate.”
The 2014 Senate races will serve as a test for establishment control of the political process. For the third consecutive cycle, Republicans will begin as heavy favorites to gain a large bloc of seats, and some party leaders want a bigger role in choosing those nominees. In 2010 and 2012, Republicans say, bad nominees in Colorado, Delaware, Indiana, Missouri and Nevada cost them what should have been easy victories. If those seats were in GOP hands today, the Senate would be deadlocked at 50-50.
Some outside groups, however, stand ready to fight for the most conservative nominee, pointing to Cruz and Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) as examples of rising stars who won Senate races without establishment support.
“The party is rarely in a position to determine the best candidate,” said Chris Chocola, president of the Club for Growth. “When you have someone who can articulate a clear, convincing, conservative message, they win.”
How does being Demo-Lite win anything at all?
Being super Neo Con didnt do the trick...
LSC
David Plouffe is every bit equally important to the success of Obama's two presidential campaigns as Axe.
I am a mod. I should. People should be able to post and debate in a civilized way free from getting maliciously insulted in place of good counter points.
Don't you agree?
Or do you think a play ground culture of frequent vile attacks is better?
life after defeat is still good... Mitt's doing a bulk right now.
And Obama’s popular vote margin, in the end, is likely to be 51 percent to 47 percent.
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Obama still owes Springfield from 2008 remember?
Obama still owes Springfield from 2008 remember?
yep. two bags of shit right therre, great point man.
Obama still owes Springfield from 2008 remember?
Other than morbid curiosity, does anyone give a shit what Romney is doing, what he thinks or how he feels about anything
I have to say though I do enjoy hearing that Queen Ann is too depressed to ride her horse
Romney has officially won Lie Of The Year award over the Jeep claim he made according to articles on the internet.
btw, in San Diego Romney is driving a new Audi Q7--not a Cadillac. :D
LMAO. I remember that video of him sweating bullets at the auto plant. Omg he was squirming around and desperate to belong..."I even owned a few cadillac's" Probably the help drove them.
LMAO. I remember that video of him sweating bullets at the auto plant. Omg he was squirming around and desperate to belong..."I even owned a few cadillac's" Probably the help drove them.
x2. Remember when he started blabbering about liking the trees in Michigan because they were “just the right height”? Talk about looking and sounding out of place. The man was just plain awkward and grasping at straws. It was embarrassing and painful to watch. :'(
LOL - yeah I forgot all about that
to think we missed out on 4 year of weird awkward statements like that
And instead traded that for 4 more years of chaos, depression, collapse, decay, destruction, etc.
Is Mitt Romney's Campaign Team Gouging Press Corps with ‘Exorbitant Charges’?
By Heather Manes, Tue, December 18, 2012
Presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s press corps received unexpectedly high bills for expenses while following the campaign trail, and is now collectively contesting those expenses with Romney campaign officials.
Nine news outlets, including the Los Angeles Times, New York Times, Washington Post, and USA Today, sent a joint letter detailing the contested costs to Romney’s former campaign manager Matt Rhoades and some senior advisers on Monday.
The news outlets, which have reported on quite a few campaign trails and understand the usual costs of following a candidate during a national election, wrote that they were surprised about “what appear to be exorbitant charges for food, filing centers/holds and ground transportation.”
The letter points out specific, unexpectedly high charges: “Some examples: $745 per person charged for a vice presidential debate viewing party on Oct. 11; $812 charged for a meal and a hold on Oct. 18; $461 for a meal and hold the next day; $345 for food and hold Oct. 30.”
The press corps also mentions that ground transportation costs exceeded $1,000 per day at times, which was a higher cost than Romney’s campaign charged in the primaries.
To combat the charges, the press corps is asking the campaign officials for details on charges over $200. A few outlets, according to the letter, have already alerted American Express to contest the charges.
more accurately still a con man
more accurately still a con man
Can you imagine electing a President who kept his money in the Caymen Islands, Swiss bank accounts, and god knows where else offshore? When he was on the scene, George Romney insisted that candidates should reveal 10+ years of tax returns because recent returns could be prepared and doctored specifically in anticipation of a run for office. Mitt (who frequently spoke of his father's example) balked at that particular suggestion and declined to share his tax returns. ::)
As if Obama is any better. LOLn.
Can you imagine electing a President who kept his money in the Caymen Islands, Swiss bank accounts, and god knows where else offshore? When he was on the scene, George Romney insisted that candidates should reveal 10+ years of tax returns because recent returns could be prepared and doctored specifically in anticipation of a run for office. Mitt (who frequently spoke of his father's example) balked at that particular suggestion and declined to share his tax returns. ::)
It just shows you thedifference between born rich and havng worked for it.
Mcway, 333, Fury, Coach all voted for Mitt.
If they had any selfresponsibility they would never open their mouths regarding politics again.
as non democrats our chances are good that we did earn our money at a non welfare job and earn it fairly
agreed
Romney would have been far better than the base head choomer coke fiend drunk in the wh
Post some proof of this claim or you are nothing more than a pathetic LIAR
Drinking publicly all the time - CHECK
Admitted coke use and gay lover said he did coke w obama - CHECK
Choomer Wagon - CHECK
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Yeah but who do you want to party with?
O-pimp choomer coke drunk fiend
or
An awkward Mormon
?
Drinking publicly all the time - CHECK
Admitted coke use and gay lover said he did coke w obama - CHECK
Choomer Wagon - CHECK
Drinking publicly all the time - CHECK
Admitted coke use and gay lover said he did coke w obama - CHECK
Choomer Wagon - CHECK
You're still here? Please follow your leader and exit stage right. ::)
Post some proof of this claim or you are nothing more than a pathetic LIAR
He's just unhappy and delusional, that is why he makes up shit about our President. Lucky for 333386 that there is still freedom of speech in the U.S. In some places, he'd be hauled off to jail for his remarks about the Commander-in-Chief.
He's just unhappy and delusional, that is why he makes up shit about our President. Lucky for 333386 that there is still freedom of speech in the U.S. In some places, he'd be hauled off to jail for his remarks about the Commander-in-Chief.
Obama and most politicians like him are wortheless scumbags, leeches, parasites, thugs, sludge, slime, and criminals, as are those worshipping them.
Shall I forward your comments to the White House, or will you be doing this?
Can you imagine electing a President who kept his money in the Caymen Islands, Swiss bank accounts, and god knows where else offshore? When he was on the scene, George Romney insisted that candidates should reveal 10+ years of tax returns because recent returns could be prepared and doctored specifically in anticipation of a run for office. Mitt (who frequently spoke of his father's example) balked at that particular suggestion and declined to share his tax returns. ::)
people hated obama so much - they would have accepted anything from romney.
he had SO MANY moments that should have sunk any campaign. it was the hate for obama that kept Romney a viable candidate.
In the end, repubs were just too $#%*@#^% LAZY to show up to vote Romney. Obama had almost 10 mil fewer votes than in 2008... but Romney had 2 million fewer votes than Mccain. Repubs were just too LAZY to get up and vote out obama.
in the end that number of 10 mil was far less
Obama and most politicians like him are wortheless scumbags, leeches, parasites, thugs, sludge, slime, and criminals, as are those worshipping them.
Like you worshiping :
Palin
Trump
Perry
Cain
Bachmann
West
Romney
Nice self analysis you got going on there.
I'm fine with him saying whatever he wantsQFT
Too bad we don't all have the same freedom of speech on this board
kind of ironic too, given the right wing leaning of this board and the constant talk about "freedom"
Like you worshiping :add
Palin
Trump
Perry
Cain
Bachmann
West
Romney
Nice self analysis you got going on there.
people hated obama so much - they would have accepted anything from romney.
he had SO MANY moments that should have sunk any campaign. it was the hate for obama that kept Romney a viable candidate.
In the end, repubs were just too $#%*@#^% LAZY to show up to vote Romney. Obama had almost 10 mil fewer votes than in 2008... but Romney had 2 million fewer votes than Mccain. Repubs were just too LAZY to get up and vote out obama.
This loss has got to hurt--bad! Everyone knows Romney has been running for President for at least six years. I think it is safe to say no one in recent memory wanted to be President more badly than Mitt Romney. The look of defeat and resignation in their faces... Their transition teams were already in place... practically measuring drapes for the White House and to have it end with such finality. Wow! I almost feel sorry for them. :'(
This loss has got to hurt--bad! Everyone knows Romney has been running for President for at least six years. I think it is safe to say no one in recent memory wanted to be President more badly than Mitt Romney. The look of defeat and resignation in their faces... Their transition teams were already in place... practically measuring drapes for the White House and to have it end with such finality. Wow! I almost feel sorry for them. :'(
the presidential race is 2 years away and the libtard line is that b/c the reps dont have someone locked in like Hillary "what difference does it make now" Clinton they are in turmoil?butt lesbians make sense, right?!:)
LMFAO makes about as much sense as homosexuality ::)
butt lesbians make sense, right?!:)no lesbians dont make sense but at least the lip stick ones are sexy
I liked Mitt because he was so in tune with real people.yea maybe he should have rapped to kendrick lamar ::)
When he stood in crowd at an an urban event and sang "Who let the dogs out, who who", he was showing he was very much in tune with songs that may have been sang 12 years prior.
yea maybe he should have rapped to kendrick lamar ::)
I see where you get your bull shit from 240...
We seem to have gotten off track. Let me help. I would fuck Ann Romney's Mormon mouth.and several of his sons.
stock market doing great lately w o-pos!
Well, this is a tough criticism... when the stock market was 7000 under bush, it wasn't bush's fault, and when it spiked to double that under obama, it wasn't to his credit. It's just the market being the market, right?
soul/33, if you're going to blame obama (which I'm sure you're not), then you have to credit him for the good times.
LOL! I want to pwn them but i know that's rude, especially because they haven't had the getbig spankings/education that I have.
Seriously, high-fiving and bragging that she's picked every winner so far lol...
stock market doing great lately w o-pos!it is! I'm buying up stuff like a mad woman at Filene's Basement sales
Well, this is a tough criticism... when the stock market was 7000 under bush, it wasn't bush's fault, and when it spiked to double that under obama, it wasn't to his credit. It's just the market being the market, right?Bump
soul/33, if you're going to blame obama (which I'm sure you're not), then you have to credit him for the good times.
Bump
LOL Good times - record food stamps, record low work force, record debt, etc etc etc.Talking about the stock market tho. When its bad, you use it to call Obama a failure. When its good you say its worthless. Gotcha
A Federal Reserve Ponzi scam stock market most people are not connected to is all you got in the Obama failed admn? laughable.
Talking about the stock market tho
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And what does O-CHOOM have to do w that? The best thing going on right now is that he cant pass anything or sign any laws so that gives the market confidence I guess.
The less he does and sooner he goes off to Kenya to od on drugs and live the life of some arabist nomad in the desert the better for all of us.
So dont blame him when its bad. Because then you just sound like an in consistent ass hole
No, Mitt Romney isn’t running for president
By Chris Cillizza
Mitt Romney hasn't disappeared from the political scene the way many people thought he would after coming up on the losing end of the 2012 presidential race. But, that doesn't mean he's running for president -- or even thinking about running for president -- in 2016.
Talk of a possible third presidential bid for Romney has surfaced of late -- with poll numbers that show he is well regarded by Republican voters and a growing sense within the GOP smart set that no candidate has really emerged from the pack as of yet.
Romney has, of course, batted down such speculation. "I'm not running, and talk of a draft is kind of silly," Romney told "Meet the Press" moderator David Gregory earlier this month. That's consistently been his position for quite some time; he told CNN's Wolf Blitzer in February that "I'm not running for president in 2016. It's time for someone else to take that responsibility and I'll be supporting our nominee." (Kudos to CNN for gathering the many ways Romney has said he's not running for president into a single blog post.)
But, one quirk of human nature is this: We always want what we can't have. Or, in Romney's own incredibly awkward (but accurate) phrasing: "The unavailable is always the most attractive, right? That goes in dating as well."
The more Romney insists he's not interested, the more people become intrigued at the prospect of him running. Remember how Al Gore suddenly became a figure of maximum intrigue in the political world just a few years removed from losing an ultra-winnable presidential race in 2000? He did it by making clear he didn't want to run. Works every time.
Now, Romney has been around the political game long enough to know that people are only interested in you as long as you are uninterested in them. As soon as Romney indicated that, well, sure, he might want to run again, all of the old complaints -- he's too wooden! he's out of touch! -- would come roaring back.
Think of Romney's current popularity like this: There is a ball just out of his reach. He could definitely grab it. But, as soon as he lunges for it, the ball starts to move away from him. The faster he runs toward it, the further it gets away from him.
Say what you will about Mitt Romney but he is no dummy. He gets it. And that's why he's not running.
Now, on to the 10 men (no women!) with the best chance of winding up as the Republican presidential nominee in 2016. Agree or disagree with our picks? That's what the comments section is made for.
10. Paul Ryan: The Wisconsin Republican's total lack of interest in making a play for a House leadership post following Eric Cantor's stunning loss earlier this month left me, again, wondering just what the heck he wants out of his political career. The answer is elusive but now seems to be that he wants to bide his time and see where the party -- in Congress and nationally -- goes over the next few cycles. At 44 years old, he can afford to wait. (Previous ranking: 9)
9. Bobby Jindal: The Louisiana governor is running for president. The latest piece of evidence was a two-day swing through Iowa, stopping by the state Republican convention and raising money for the state party. Jindal, in his day job, is building a record that hard-core conservatives will love. He rejected the Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Care Act and, more recently, issued an executive order to withdraw the state from the Common Core education standards program. (Previous ranking: 7)
8. Ted Cruz: The last week in politics has to give the Texas Republican Senator some pause. His preferred candidate in Oklahoma's Republican Senate primary got walloped on Tuesday, the same night tea party insurgent Chris McDaniel inexplicably lost to establishment pick Thad Cochran in the Mississippi Senate runoff. Cruz has a loyal base of support. But, it's not big enough to be the nominee. (Previous ranking: 6)
7. Mike Huckabee: The former Arkansas governor is doing the sorts of things one does when he wants to run for president. He stumped for Mike Campbell, a candidate for North Carolina South Carolina lieutenant governor earlier this month. He's giving the wink and nod statements of interest that are part of the game. And, polling in Iowa at least shows he remains popular; a recent Des Moines Register poll showed Huckabee had the second highest favorable ratings of any potential 2016 GOPer. (Paul Ryan was at the top.) (Previous ranking: 8)
6. John Kasich: The Ohio governor is the "it boy" of the smart-set in DC at the moment. He looks to be on his way to a comfortable re-election victory in the swingiest state in the country at the presidential level. He's run for president before and no one we talk to says he doesn't want to again. If Kasich wins this fall and shows some interest in the race, he could move up these rankings. (Previous ranking: N/A)
5. Chris Christie: Just when he thought he was out, they pulled him back in. The news, which broke this week, that the feds are investigating the New Jersey governor's use of Port Authority funds to repair the Pulaski Skyway, further complicates Christie's political rehabilitation efforts. Whether or not anything in this latest investigation gets to Christie remains very unclear but it's just another bad storyline that he has to deal with at a time when he wants to pivot to the process of running for president. (Previous ranking: 4)
4. Scott Walker: Speaking of bad headlines, the Wisconsin governor has had to weather some of his own lately over allegations of illegal coordination between his 2012 recall campaign and outside groups aiding that effort. But, earlier this week, an attorney for the special prosecutor tasked with looking into the allegations made clear that Walker was not a target of the probe. That was a nice piece of news for Walker -- and should help him quiet the storm of coverage that had popped up over the past 10 days or so. (Previous ranking: 5)
3. Rand Paul: Paul is the most interesting candidate running for the Republican presidential nomination. He's also the one -- with the possible exceptions of Rubio and Jeb Bush -- who can make a credible case that nominating him would expand the GOP into parts of the electorate it hasn't been able to reach in recent years. Paul remains somewhat unpredictable -- that's also part of his appeal -- and it remains to be seen whether he could win a one-on-one fight with a more establishment candidate. (Previous ranking: 2)
2. Marco Rubio: The last time we wrote about the 2016 presidential field in this space, we recommended buying stock in the Florida Senator. That's still our recommendation -- particularly as Walker and Christie have stumbled a bit as of late. Rubio's record in the Senate -- with the exception of immigration reform -- is solidly conservative and he is probably the most naturally gifted candidate in the field. We keep hearing whispers that Rubio's record during his time as Speaker of the Florida house is ripe for an opposition researcher but we're not there yet. (Previous ranking: 3)
1. Jeb Bush: Until he says "no" -- and we still think that's more likely than him saying "yes" -- we are going to keep the former Florida governor at the top of these rankings. That ranking is largely built on his last name and the political and fundraising muscle it represents. As Philip Bump noted in a recent Fix post, however, Jeb's record on core conservative policies is not so good. (Previous ranking: 1)
like him or not a person with a background similar to romneys business background is what is needed for this country.
obama and the left have proven time and time again that they do not understand how businesses operate or how to get their goals accomplished while being business friendly, the tax inversion stupidity is just the latest in a long list of examples.
Mitt would be the PERFECT VP selection. He's not the personality/likeable enough to win the election. I mean, obama sucked, it was on the tail end of obamacare and benghazi, and obama looked like crap in debate #1... but still, he won 53% and 330? electorals... pretty bad beating.my point was not about likeability at all...
Americans WANT a president they would have a beer with. Mitt was just too rich, too out of touch. Too much of the "who let the dogs out" and "i'm out of work too, haha!" - in this media age, a presidential candidate MUST be in touch with the people. Mitt was perfect on paper, but people just didn't like him because they felt ZERO connection with him. There was so so little for the average american to connect with mitt on (and being a RINO meant the base stayed home too)
But yes, to your point... a likeable Romney would win the job.
my point was not about likeability at all...
my point was to what this country needs and to think that a person who has gone to private school since grade school is in touch with people is pretty damn laughable.
A person who understands how a business works and what their goals are is whats needed. Obama could probably get alot of his going if he would go about it in a way that was in line with a businesses goals or made it easier for them to work
my point was not about likeability at all...
my point was to what this country needs and to think that a person who has gone to private school since grade school is in touch with people is pretty damn laughable.
A person who understands how a business works and what their goals are is whats needed. Obama could probably get alot of his going if he would go about it in a way that was in line with a businesses goals or made it easier for them to work
You mean like Romney lolexactly, morons like you think obama can relate when he has essentially the same priviledged background.
People will never elect "what is needed". They'll elect who they like.damn it youre fucking dense, you dont have to run the govt like a business to make use of business experience.
In truth, there is probably a fat old bald dude, 60 years old, with stacks of PhDs and decades of thinktank work, who can TRULY understand the concepts and content of running the USA. I mean, Cain didn't know shit about libya, he didn't know who the nuclear powers were lol. Perry, lol, he's a haircut and a shifting amnesty position, but he sure has that presidential look. Mitch McConnell? he has more brains in his ten remaining hairs than Perry has in his entire body... but given his height and bald head, he'll never be prez.
and anyway... the last 2 "businessman" presidents were Hoover and Dubya... lol...
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/31/the-wrong-resume/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
Businessman are sexy choices but they dont' work "in real life" where you cannot CUT THE FAT like you can in business. Why was Romney 47th in nation in Job Creation? Well, he used to be able to SELL OFF those shitty companies. He can't sell off shitty, low IQ counties with poverty issues.
I have an MBA and I love the idea of a businessman president, but really, I believe the best presidents are those with a decent IQ, ability to learn fast, and above all, to FIND COMMON GROUND with people. Anyone who can get boehnner and Pelosi on the same page is WAY smarter than a brilliant romney whining about 47% to a room full of decamillionaires lol.
and anyway... the last 2 "businessman" presidents were Hoover and Dubya... lol...
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/31/the-wrong-resume/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
Thanks for saving me the trouble of pointing that out. ::)what was bush's business acumen?
What I find most interesting about Romney’s candidacy is how his campaigns effectively ignored his tenure as governor. In the course of his campaigns (especially the most recent one) his time in office was almost completely ignored. Typically, former governors point to their many accomplishments in office as evidence of what they can, and will, do if elected President. That was not the case with Romney. Why is that?
Any one living in Massachusetts can tell you why: when Romney left the governor’s office he was deeply unpopular to put it mildly. He only served one term and he did not stand a snowball’s chance in hell of winning a second term and everyone knew it—including him. He did not even try to run for a second term. :-X
what was bush's business acumen?
damn it youre fucking dense, you dont have to run the govt like a business to make use of business experience.
You see if you understand how a business works and its goals you have a much easier time to get achieve your goals b/c you can help align your interests and make it where businesses want to change.
Tax inversion is a great example, what obama wants to do is simply do away with it and then tackle corporate tax reform. The issue is that not a single fucking person believes that he will play tit for tat with any fairness. If he made it where business paid less of a % in taxes but also made it more advantageous to keep money here the US would eventually end up getting more in tax money.
You see working with business, not against them like obama has continually done.
Dubya = MBA, ran companies.bush's business experience looks sub par to me. Founded a company that was in bad shape and got bought out, was made president of the acquiring company and it folded into another company.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_life_of_George_W._Bush#Business
Business experience is nice, but you're talking theory. I'm not sure you can really show us examples of how presidents from the business world had success. Like I said, Hoover and Bush, who essentially brought us Great depression 1 and nearly part 2 in 2007/2008, they were the two big business background presidents.
Like I said, it looks good on paper, but in real life, it's really those good with people and good with organizational structure that have the success. Presidents are given advice by those in business, but more specifically, those with advanced economics and statistics training. We're talking macro to the tune of trillions of $ and 300 million americans. Bush running an oil company, talking to execs all day, really doesn't help there. Reagan running a massive state with many interdependent systems and diverse populations, interest groups, yet that helped a lot.
History says your wrong,but thatnever hot in your way of making an argument :Dreally? hows that?
really? hows that?
Look at history business men havn't done well as president .but i'm sure you'll make up your own history, most repubs do LOLand non businessmen have?
and non businessmen have?
would you care to point out some examples of the different policies that each group have passed and how they have effected the country?
bush's business experience looks sub par to me. Founded a company that was in bad shape and got bought out, was made president of the acquiring company and it folded into another company.
What did bush do to bring us the great recession again?
I guess I can agree with you so long as the president is smart enough to know what he doesnt know place ppl around him that know about business and take their advice.
So now you're narrowing down the two "business" presidents of the last century to "those who kicked ass in business"?
LOL there were only two, Bush and Hoover.
And if you want to know what Bush and both the dems/repubs did from 2001 to 2007 to lead us to nearly a second depression, well, that's funding two wars, remember? Oh, and Bush's ability to "work WITH business", as you stated, sure helped when he essentially bailed out banks to the point of 700 billion because, well, he sure hated the idea of regulatin' them haha.
Aside from what looks good on paper, there ARE NO GOOD EXAMPLES of modern presidents from the business world being good at the job of President. they'd probably do fine, but historically, the examples aren't there, sorry.
Bottom line? Business presidents are good for the top 1% that profit from wars and depressions. History shows that.
bush's business experience looks sub par to me.
no I said a businessman who understands businesses goals and how they work and uses that to align their goals with govt is what the country needs
You said a businessmen would make a good president history says your wrong.sorry lol
So now you're narrowing down the two "business" presidents of the last century to "those who kicked ass in business"?LOL yes starting a business with your family and their money and then having it bought out b/c it wasnt doing good then having your next company bought out b/c it wasnt doing good doesnt make you a succesful business man
LOL there were only two, Bush and Hoover.
And if you want to know what Bush and both the dems/repubs did from 2001 to 2007 to lead us to nearly a second depression, well, that's funding two wars, remember? Oh, and Bush's ability to "work WITH business", as you stated, sure helped when he essentially bailed out banks to the point of 700 billion because, well, he sure hated the idea of regulatin' them haha.
Aside from what looks good on paper, there ARE NO GOOD EXAMPLES of modern presidents from the business world being good at the job of President. they'd probably do fine, but historically, the examples aren't there, sorry.
Bottom line? Business presidents are good for the top 1% that profit from wars and depressions. History shows that.
no I said a businessman who understands businesses goals and how they work and uses that to align their goals with govt is what the country needs
again I am waiting for you to back up your statements.
no I said a businessman who understands businesses goals and how they work and uses that to align their goals with govt is what the country needs
again I am waiting for you to back up your statements.
you're always shitting on my MBA... what's your degree in again?
Dude, "a president that understands business goals and how they work" - WTF does that even mean?
There's a reason we don't have many business presidents, and the ones we do have, end up putting us into depressions lol.
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Mitt Romney will run in 2016 and crush the oppositionYep, 2016 will finally be his year. lol ::)
by Dwight L. Schwab Jr.
It was exactly 34-years-ago today Republican presidential nominee Ronald Reagan launched his 1980 bid to replace President Jimmy Carter. In New York Harbor, with the Statue of Liberty in the background, Reagan gave an inspiring speech about freedom in what would be a campaign that ended in his landslide victory some 60-days later.
There are many pundits, frightened Democrats, even Mitt Romney himself, who scoff at the thought of him running a third time for president in 2016. But 34-years-ago today, it was the beginning of Ronald Reagan’s third try also. Last night in New York City, Mitt Romney could be heard in a roundtable radio discussion hosted by John Catsimatidis beginning his third attempt at the presidency.
Romney spoke with passion of Barack Obama's critical mistakes that have enabled the rise of the Islamic State (ISIS) and created the immigration crisis at the country's southern border. Not unlike Ronald Reagan’s style, he was soft-spoken as he said of his 2012 opponent, “Mistakes were made and now we have ISIS."
The two-time presidential contender argued with conviction that ISIS has only gained power because America did not listen to his plan to contain Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. He convincingly laid out the reality that a president cannot draw a line in the sand, as Obama did, and then relent when it is crossed.
With refreshing candor missing from any established presidential contenders thus far, Romney said, "If you go back a few years when Syria fell into revolution and tumult, when rebels were pushing against Assad, I laid out what I thought was a prudent course for us to see stability in Syria. Had we followed that course, there's a good chance you would not see an ISIS today."
He accused Obama of failing to heed American intelligence reports of the growing threat while he tended to domestic projects like Obamacare and redistribution of wealth. He said had proposed plan, which much of the mainstream press labeled “warmongering,” been done to back the revolutionaries in Syria, America wouldn’t be where it is today.
It was a very different, more forceful Romney many heard on the radio in New York City last night. Instead of his usual speech that is left unfinished, he finished his thoughts with a highly critical critique of President Obama’s handling of the Middle East crisis. He said, "We saw ISIS roll into Iraq and, instead of attacking them immediately and knocking them in their convoy when they would have been easy to knock down, relatively easy to knock down, the president again watched. And now we're in a position where ISIS has run throughout major portions of Iraq. There have been horrific human rights abuses, tragedies."
America is seeing the new Mitt Romney who would not have basically left the 2012 campaign two weeks before the job was completed. Hillary Clinton and others most certainly are watching this Mitt Romney with keen interest. He is indeed a candidate in 2016. Those who think otherwise are the most worried they are wrong.
Jesus Christ..... not Romeny again... fck that guy.
No excuse for the campaign he ran.....no idea what he was thinking. He was the guy running against the guy who is destroying the country so I had to support him. The fact that he's been right about a lot of things especially foreign policy.....and already having a long track record of successful private sector financial work...this all hurts just a little more.
Interesting that this is how you choose to measure Romney. What do you make of his tenure as governor? And what do you think is the best predictor of how effective he would be as President: his business record or his record as governor? I suppose you have to choose the former because if you look at his record as governor he does not come out looking so good. :-X
Oddly Romney was right about just about everything...and Obama was wrong.
Oddly Romney was right about just about everything...and Obama was wrong.
Right - but Obama's non tenure in the Senate and failed 1st term led you to vote to re-elect him why again?
Mitt wanted to expand military spending by 2 trillion.
I think all of us agree it's well worth the expense, right?
sure some liberals want to "cut the military spending in half in 5 years", but conservatives think there shouldn't be any limit to spending on tanks and planes.
When you want to give the Pentagon more money than they are asking for something is very wrong. ::)
Here is why:1. obamas policies have helped lead to the rise of ISIS, to which we are now facing yet another never ending war.
When Obama took office
• there was no end in sight for the unnecessary 2 trillion dollar war in Iraq (how many US service men and women died unnecessarily? 4000+)
• Osama Bin Laden was on the loose (remember when Bush said he didn’t know where Osama was and wasn’t even thinking about him?)
• the US auto industry was on the verge of collapse
• the housing market had collapsed
• Fannie/Freddie Mac collapsed
• big insurance (AIG) and reinsurance were on the verge of collapse
• banking big and small had collapsed (we came perilously close to nationalizing the banks in the US—something I never would have imagined possible)
• health insurance companies were routinely denying claims for “preexisting conditions”, etc. The Affordable Care Act put a stop to that.
• the worst downturn since the Great Depression had gripped the country.
All of that changed during the first term so the President was reelected. Of course, it helped that his opponent ran an ineffective and self-sabotaged campaign. Indeed, I think we can all agree that Obama was primarily elected the first time because of the failed presidency that preceded him. People would have voted for a cat on the heels of the Bush presidency.
Mitt's going to go for it!
I cannot wait for anotherembarrassing lossRomney presidential campaign! :)
The amount of lying and flip flopping he did was insane, during the debates he didn't care about who was right, he simply wanted to say "gotcha" it was embarrasing.
I think the first debate definitely went more his way... It was all down hill from there.I could live with any republican; the pendulum will be swinging back toward the GOP anyway; and then people will hate them and it will revert back to the Dems.
Add to that, the VP debate, which went 100 percent to Biden, it just ended up looking bad all around for them.
I kind of want Romney to win the nomination because I have a bet going that the Republicans will put forth a rich white guy... If they do, I get free dinner!
I think the first debate definitely went more his way... It was all down hill from there.
Add to that, the VP debate, which went 100 percent to Biden, it just ended up looking bad all around for them.
I kind of want Romney to win the nomination because I have a bet going that the Republicans will put forth a rich white guy... If they do, I get free dinner!
x2. And to think, he is rising to the top because the rest of the GOP field is so very weak. :-[
Here is why:LMFAO this is everything anybody needs to know about your dumb ass!!!
When Obama took office
• there was no end in sight for the unnecessary 2 trillion dollar war in Iraq (how many US service men and women died unnecessarily? 4000+)
• Osama Bin Laden was on the loose (remember when Bush said he didn’t know where Osama was and wasn’t even thinking about him?)
• the US auto industry was on the verge of collapse
• the housing market had collapsed
• Fannie/Freddie Mac collapsed
• big insurance (AIG) and reinsurance were on the verge of collapse
• banking big and small had collapsed (we came perilously close to nationalizing the banks in the US—something I never would have imagined possible)
• health insurance companies were routinely denying claims for “preexisting conditions”, etc. The Affordable Care Act put a stop to that.
• the worst downturn since the Great Depression had gripped the country.
All of that changed during the first term so the President was reelected. Of course, it helped that his opponent ran an ineffective and self-sabotaged campaign. Indeed, I think we can all agree that Obama was primarily elected the first time because of the failed presidency that preceded him. People would have voted for a cat on the heels of the Bush presidency.
Why 2016 May Be Mitt Romney’s YearPresident Barack Obama aka Mr. Getting It Done! :)
...the Affordable Care Act is proceeding. The federal budget deficit has fallen below $500 billion, and the Congressional Budget Office projects that the national debt will be stable as a share of the economy over the next decade. As a result, Congress will probably leave the federal budget more or less on autopilot for the next several years.
The health act has already been de-emphasized in 2014 midterm campaigns, in part because the existence of popular provisions in the law makes it awkward for Republicans to demand repeal without specifying a clear replacement.
Can’t quit Mitt: Friends say Romney feels nudge to consider a 2016 presidential runA guy gets his ass kicked in a presidential election and the next thing you know, he's prancing around like he's Shecky Greene at the MGM Grand. ::)
by Philip Rucker and Robert Costa
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa —
He also said that now that he was no longer a candidate, he had a joke to share involving Obama, golfer Phil Mickelson and tennis great Andre Agassi.
As Romney told it, Obama shows up at a bank to cash a check without his ID. The teller asks him to prove who he is, saying that Mickelson proved his identity by hitting a golf ball into a cup and Agassi proved his by hitting a tennis ball at a target. “Is there anything you can do to prove who you are?” the teller asks.
“I don’t have a clue,” Obama replies in the joke.
The crowd ate it up.
Repubs would be NUTS to choose Romney again.
He support minimum wage. He wants MORE amnesty. He's wearing spray tan on Univision, telling hispanic viewers that the illegals need PERMANENT permission to stay.
and don't forget, Gruber was his right-hand man for Romneycare... so all the grubergate stink with obama goes right back to Romney.
Plus, he LOST to the very beatable obama, even after leading in polls after debate #1. Romney isn't liked by people, period. great veep choice, great for secretary of anything... but president? nah,
But he wants to be President. He wants it very badly! :-[
it's a flaw for most ambitious people. "Play your position" - Most people that smart, that successful, don't settle. They don't know when to say "This is probably the ceiling for me". There can only be one president. the combo of factors... romney doesn't have them all.
But... but... but his father was a governor. It is Mitt's destiny! :'(
Well, he appears to have been right on most of what he campaigned on.
Well, he appears to have been right on most of what he campaigned on.
he said he woudln't raise min wage. He said he was against amnesty.
Since 2012, he's said we need a min wage, and we need permanent amnesty.
How so?
he said he woudln't raise min wage. He said he was against amnesty.
Since 2012, he's said we need a min wage, and we need permanent amnesty.
I said what he campaigned on - Russia, Obamacare, working with congress, Iraq.....
I'm sure there's a ton of articles.
working with congress???..congress won't work with him....they spent the first four years talking about Obama's birthcertificate and trying to de-legitimaize him as president......and then taking some 40 some odd votes to try to repeal Obamacare........
Russia is not really much of threat and their actions actually show how weak they are as a country.........you culd argue a bnit about Iraq..but they did not want us there and wanted us to leave...they wouldn't sign the immunity from prosecution agreement adn so we had to leave hence you would have seen a slew of American soldiers on trial on false trumped up charges.........jury is still out on Obamacare but millions more people have insurance and many republican governors have jumped on the bandwagon....
Obama is not to be worked with - but blocked, tried for treason, and sent home.
running mitt? lol just give the dems the white house now. if romney coudln't beat obama - when he was SO unpopular - can he beat a dem who is polling 10 or 15 points higher? Base doesn't want a RINO. See 2008 and 2012.
"I'm not concerned about the very poor..."
"Don't try and stop the foreclosure process. Let it run its course and hit the bottom."
"Let Detroit go bankrupt"
"I like being able to fire people who provide services to me"
--Mitt Romney
Hillary is going to destroy Mitt...the only way Hillary loses is if something devastating comes out..adn i'm sure Bill has that covered already.....he's done his research and paid off who he needed to pay off to make sure nothing comes out
The primaries haven't even started and the dems have enough on Romney to beat him again...and wait until Rand Paul begines to beat up on him
"I'm not concerned about the very poor..."
"Don't try and stop the foreclosure process. Let it run its course and hit the bottom."
"Let Detroit go bankrupt"
"I like being able to fire people who provide services to me"
--Mitt Romney
I saw Mitt a few months ago.
Was surprised at how scatter-brained and weak he seemed to be, especially in the presence of his wife. She clearly has him by the balls, but good.
I can disqualify Mitt with three words: Swiss bank account.
Give me two more words and I can do it again: Cayman Islands.
Do we really want a candidate and President who parked his money in a Swiss bank account? Or elsewhere offshore? There is nothing wrong with money in a Swiss bank account if you are from Switzerland, but most Americans do not know anyone with money in a Swiss bank. In fact, most of us only know of Swiss banks via television, movies, and news reports and it is almost always in connection with someone hiding money, laundering money, or otherwise engaged in criminal/shady conduct. :-X
Remember, this is the same guy who refused to disclose his many tax returns--even though his own father insisted that candidates should do exactly that.
That's very much my impression as well... but when you pause to think about it that is not an uncommon dynamic with political wives. Michelle Obama and Nancy Reagan give off the same vibe.
Romney to GOP donors: ‘I want to be president.’
By Philip Rucker, Robert Costa and Matea Gold
Mitt Romney forcefully declared his interest in a third presidential run to a room full of powerful Republican donors Friday, disrupting the fluid 2016 GOP field as would-be rival Jeb Bush was moving swiftly to consolidate establishment support.
Romney, the 2012 Republican nominee, has been mulling another campaign for several months, but his comments Friday marked a clear step forward in his thinking and come amid mounting tensions between the Romney and Bush camps.
“I want to be president,” Romney told about 30 donors in New York. He said that his wife, Ann — who last fall said she was emphatically against a run — had changed her mind and was now “very encouraging,” although their five sons remain split, according to multiple attendees.
Advisers said Romney discussed the race with his family over the holidays, when they spent time skiing in Park City, Utah, but he insisted that he has not made up his mind whether to run. Advisers said he recognizes that he would not be able to waltz into the nomination and that the intra-party competition is shaping up to be stiffer in next year’s primaries than it was in 2012.
Bush’s sudden focus on the race in recent weeks has put pressure on Romney to decide soon. Romney has been in regular conversations with major donors, some of whom are pushing him to run again, but confidants have also warned him that his window of opportunity could shut if he does not declare his intentions within 30 to 60 days.
Romney’s comments at Friday’s meeting, first reported by the Wall Street Journal, electrified the world of Republican financiers, who are being courted aggressively by Bush, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and other hopefuls. Romney’s dalliance could freeze enough donors to spoil Bush’s plan to post an intimidatingly huge first-quarter fundraising haul this spring.
“What he has said to me before is, ‘I am preserving my options.’ What he is now saying is, ‘I am seriously considering a run,’ ” said Bobbie Kilberg, a top donor from Virginia who raised millions of dollars for Romney’s 2012 bid. She was briefed by attendees on Romney’s Friday comments. “And he said that in a room with 30 people. That is a different degree of intensity.”
Striving to keep his network intact, Romney on Friday also e-mailed his donors with invitations to his fourth annual policy summit in Park City, scheduled for June 11-13. Called the E2 Summit, the event is billed as an “intimate” gathering of Wall Street titans, politicos and former government officials.
Romney’s associates said that he has become restless since conceding to President Obama on a cold night in Boston two years ago. Romney’s motivation to run again stems from a lingering dissatisfaction with Obama’s policies, both economic and foreign, and a belief that he would have set the country on a better course.
Romney also harbors doubts that Bush and other Republican contenders can defeat likely Democratic candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton, advisers said, and is wary in particular about Bush’s political skills.
“I believe Mitt Romney is too much of a patriot to sit on the sidelines and concede the presidency to Hillary Clinton or [Massachusetts Sen.] Elizabeth Warren when he knows that he can fix the country,” said Spencer Zwick, Romney’s 2012 national finance chairman, who accompanied Romney to Friday’s New York meeting.
“I think, at the end of the day, he believes he could actually make a difference,” Zwick said. “He won’t make a decision to run for president based on who else is in the race. He will make a decision based on his own desire and his own abilities.”
Romney’s advisers said he is approaching the decision pragmatically. “He does not go into things looking through rose-
colored glasses,” said one Romney adviser who spoke on condition of anonymity to talk candidly.
This adviser said Romney is far from having his mind made up: “He knows he’ll have to earn it, and he believes in that; that the presidency is too important to hand it over to somebody. He doesn’t talk like that at all. He wants to go out and make his case to the American people and see what happens. But he’s not that far.”
One immediate hurdle Romney would face is that many of the prominent donors that backed his last campaign, as well as some senior operatives who worked for him before, have already been scooped up by Bush or other candidates. GOP lawyer Charlie Spies, who co-founded the pro-Romney super PAC Restore our Future, is now representing Bush’s leadership committee, the Right to Rise PAC, as well as a pro-Bush super PAC of the same name.
Some Republicans have sharply criticized him since 2012 over his missteps on the campaign trail and his final performance — he lost every swing state except North Carolina and finished with 206 electoral votes to Obama’s 332. Democrats successfully cast him as out of touch with the middle class after he was caught on video telling wealthy donors that 47 percent of Americans do not take personal responsibility for their lives.
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R), a 2016 presidential hopeful, assailed Romney shortly after the 2012 election: “We have to stop dividing the American voters. We need to go after 100 percent of the votes, not 53 percent.” Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), also eyeing a 2016 run, wrote in his 2013 book that Romney did a “lousy job” talking about the economy “in a way that is relevant to people’s lives.”
Friday’s declaration of interest by Romney, a former Massachusetts governor and businessman, was not welcomed by all of his former allies — especially those close to the Bush family.
“Frankly, he has been bypassed by Jeb,” said Doug Gross, Romney’s 2008 Iowa campaign chairman and longtime Bush ally. “The time for Governor Romney has probably passed. He has already lost twice. The jury is very much out on whether Republican voters would go with him again.”
Romney’s relationship with Bush’s orbit has evolved from warm to strained in recent months. Bush’s chief political strategist is Mike Murphy, who also is close to Romney and advised his successful 2002 gubernatorial campaign. Last year, Murphy helped Romney on TV ads for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, shooting on a California set that bore more than a passing resemblance to the Oval Office.
But as Bush has ramped up his own efforts, Romney’s coziness with Murphy has dissipated. They last met shortly before Christmas, when Romney asked Murphy about preparations for Bush’s campaign and told Murphy he had not ruled out a bid of his own, according to Romney backers with knowledge of the conversation.
Romney has been talking frequently with Stuart Stevens, his top 2012 strategist and a Murphy rival, while keeping a watchful eye on Bush’s moves to woo Romney’s former supporters. On Friday, Bush was in Boston, Romney’s home base where he headquartered his past campaigns, trying to persuade Romney donors to get behind his effort.
Veteran GOP consultant Ed Rollins said, “Romney knows that he can block donors from going to Bush if he sends a clear enough message.”
“If you put Romney and Bush head to head, I think Romney probably wins that fight,” Rollins said. “Nobody is wholesale walking away from him. The donor base and operatives are still there. Bush thought he’d have an open field to easily beat Christie. Romney, if he gets in, changes that plan.”
On Wednesday, Romney lectured at Stanford University in a class titled “Understanding the 2016 Campaign from Start to Finish,” which is taught by his former policy director, Lanhee Chen. Romney later had dinner in Menlo Park, Calif., with Chen, former spokeswoman Andrea Saul and former campaign lawyers Ben Ginsberg and Katie Biber Chen.
Romney has remained close to such power brokers as New York Jets owner Woody Johnson, a Republican fundraiser who co-chaired Romney’s 2012 campaign and who attended Friday’s meeting.
“When I walked into Woody’s box a few weeks ago, Romney was sitting there in a turtleneck,” recalled former New Jersey governor Tom Kean. “He was in good spirits.”
Romney has paid for more andreisdafag welfare checks than any other politician out there. FACT
paid for your college loans as well
Really/ Explain you perverted freak
did you pay for college out of your pocket??????...probably NOT..therefore....free stuff!!!!!!!!
paying every month - UNLIKE YOU WELFARE PEOPLE FOR YOUR FREE PHONES , HUD, APARTMENTS, MEDICADE, FOOD, DIAPERS, ETC
YEAH !
third time's the charm; this time get Sarah Palin as running mate.
paying every month - UNLIKE YOU WELFARE PEOPLE FOR YOUR FREE PHONES , HUD, APARTMENTS, MEDICADE, FOOD, DIAPERS, ETC
on loans you never would have been given if they were not guaranteed against default by the government
you're still sucking on the government teat
on loans you never would have been given if they were not guaranteed against default by the government
you're still sucking on the government teat
;D...the truth sure does hurt...so Chris, does this mean that you can owe your success as a SUPPOSED lawyer to GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE???????????????????????
Geez all this time and im no different than any other welfare thug drunk pissing himself in Penn station and voting for Obama - go figure. :D
paying every month - UNLIKE YOU WELFARE PEOPLE FOR YOUR FREE PHONES , HUD, APARTMENTS, MEDICADE, FOOD, DIAPERS, ETC
^^ Photo above brings to mind the same reaction everyone had when Rubio recently told the media he was presidential material and could win the election.
Jeb refused to even endorse Romney in 2012. The party knows how toxic this guy is. He won nomination not because "repubs believed in him" but rather because his campaign was just better organized, more $ to keep it going, and because FOX went from hating him to loving him once the GOP primaries became a rotating clown car of "9-9-9 love affairs" and "bachmann went undercover at the IRS" and "Trump can't run suddenly because he prefers his TV show..."
Looking back, the 2012 race really was a fcking train wreck. Half of the competitors were serious, half were just obnoxious idiots. Romney won by just showing up, being a polite RINO, and having better organization.
Maybe in 2016 repubs will be smart enough to choose a candidate they LIKE, and one with views that MATCH THEIR OWN. Otherwise, it'll be more of the same... Romney wins primaries due to $/organization, and loses election by a landslide because base won't bother voting for him. (again).
Cruz or lose.
You know you are in trouble when your own base is not too keen on you. The truth is they do not like him (they never did) and they will not turn out for him. Like many successful people, Romney surrounds himself with "yes men" or people who think just like he does (which is just as bad) so he never gets a reality check. The party seems to be turning on him rather quickly this time so maybe he will get the message. My guess is his ego will get the better of him and he will enter the race. If he does he will lose (Bush or Christie will beat him) and then he will finally go away for good greatly diminished and/or humiliated. :(
he might just keep on winning nomination every time now lol. he knows the formula for winning that, he has the $ and network in place.
I think not. He had no real competition last time. Bush and Christie will not roll over for him.
Does anyone really think Romney is interested in "poverty" as an issue? The word "shift" and Romney in the same sentence is toxic for him. See next post...
I don't think Christie is capable of rolling over.
Good line :D...I don't think Romney could win the presidency because I think the public will always have a sneaking suspicion that Romney couldn't care less about the poor and that he won't be a president for ALL people, but only for the rich and well off
That would be obama Who under his failed admn only the top 1 percnt have benefitted
You are still here? Stop making a fool of yourself. ::)
Ted Cruz Blisters Mitt Romney
Mitt doesn't have to worry... a horde of getbig RINOs will arrive to defend Mitt's honor.
On a side note, Cruz looking lean and ge got a haircut... definitely looks like he's running.
That would be obama Who under his failed admn only the top 1 percnt have benefitted
So he is a super capitalist now ???
You are very confused friend...
Meghan McCain: Dear Mitt, For your family’s sake, don’t run
Helping my dad run for president, twice, was the hardest thing I've ever done. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
by Meghan McCain
There’s really no way to explain what it’s like to watch your parent run for president. Those of us who’ve been through it are members of a very small, bizarre club.
Those of us who’ve been through it multiple times, who’ve watched our parents be rejected by the American public more than once? We make up a weird, lonely island of political misfit toys. I’m on it. So are the Romneys. And when I think about what they might go through again, if their father runs a third time, I shudder.
Don’t get me wrong. I like Mitt Romney. I like his wife and children. But take it from someone who knows — being the direct spawn of a presidential nominee is arduous and excruciatingly public. It’s an experience that will always hold a very special place in my heart, but I wouldn’t put myself or my family through it again for anything in the world. And it’s inconceivable to me that anyone else would either — especially after losing as your party’s most recent nominee.
* * *
The first time my father ran for president, I was 14 years old.
As a freshman in high school, I was excited but blissfully naive to the gravity of the situation. I got to leave school and join my dad while he campaigned in New Hampshire. I remember riding around in the “Straight Talk Express” with reporters — some who became household names (looking at you, Jake Tapper). I heard Chuck Berry’s “Go Johnny Go,” my father’s campaign song, blasted more times than I could count at each rally.
I also remember the harder, darker moments – Karl Rove’s notorious whisper campaigns about my adopted sister Bridget. Having my hypothetical abortion discussed on television and in newspapers because of my father’s response to a reporter’s question about what he would do if I became pregnant. I couldn’t focus in school and started performing badly in my classes because it seemed like every five seconds, someone would bring up my father. For the first time in my life, I was treated differently by both my classmates and teachers.
The experience strengthened my patriotism and love of America. But it was also terrifying. Ultimately, politicians and their families don’t belong to themselves. They belong to the media, and they’re often eviscerated and torn apart. Anything and everything you have done or will do will be held against you, scrutinized, and possibly held up for late-night fodder. Your clothes, your more colorful extended family members, the way you talk, if you’re too edgy, if you aren’t edgy enough, what music you listen to, where you live, who you hang out with.
Nothing, and I mean nothing, cannot be used for ammo by the other side.
The Romneys know this. They know the negatives, they know that anything can and will be used against them. This time, they’ll contend with an added insult – this is their father’s third attempt.
I thought I was more prepared the second time around. I was 22 and had just graduated from Columbia University. I knew what to expect from the press and the voters. But no one is ever truly 100 percent prepared. There will always be outside variables you don’t have control over, and no one makes it to the White House without a few good juicy media scandals. To this day, some people who meet my mother for the first time comment that she’s not “the ice princess” the media painted her out to be. Narratives like those never truly go away even after elections pass.
Honestly, though, the hardest part was the physical moment on stage on election night watching my father lose and concede the White House to President Obama. It felt like standing in front of a metaphorical firing range as a family but instead of guns there were cameras.
It all feels terribly personal. It is not just a rejection of your personal beliefs on the direction of your country that your parent personifies, it is a rejection of your entire family unit. You, your brothers, your sisters, the way you look, act and the entirety of how your family is made up is rejected in place of something else deemed all together better and more fitting to the American public. The days and weeks that follow felt like the aftermath of complete and total heartbreak.
* * *
When you believe in someone you love, and believe that they can change history and make your country a stronger, better place, it trumps everything else. But this is the trade-off. When your parent runs for president, no family member gets out of it without a few battle scars.
And the experience stays with you. Every job I have, every date I go on, every time someone recognizes my last name, people bring up my father’s campaign. It’s still, so many years later, a constant in my life.
The experience I had campaigning with my father and watching him almost become president was equally exhilarating and dejecting. I’m sure that’s true for the Romney family as well. So I’m perplexed as to why they are considering doing it all over again. Yes, I’m sure they believe in him in the same intense way I believe in my father but why put your family through it again so soon? Especially given that this time will most likely be harder than the last, not easier and a lot of people in the party are looking for new, fresh blood to inspire voters. The Romney family may be looking for a fresh start, but it’s not something they’ll find on the campaign trail again.
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Great article
Nice!
What article?
That would be obama Who under his failed admn only the top 1 percnt have benefitted
Aside from being severely conservative, I think we all remember Mitt as the candidate that has always cared most about stopping poverty. At some point, I hope he addresses that 47% of people.
mitt would do a *standard* job as president. more of the same. a safe choice, if you're happy with the spend-happy ways of Boehnner and obama. and many people are. NOBODY should believe that prez romney will change much of anything, just like prez hilary won't change much.
Now, warren or Cruz? They will shake things a bit, love it or hate it. Mitt's going Mr. Superwalmart suddenly, but everyone sees thru it.
Why is Beach Bum always calling you a troll?
You are pretty spot on with a lot of your posts.
BayGBM, why don't you tell us how you really feel about Romney? And while you're at it, post some more pics of curvy, hot blondes.
At this point I think he is cartoonish. His own party does not like him... does not want him... he has been rejected by voters... and he still wants to be president so badly that he won't go away. He is even now claiming to care about the poor... as I said: cartoonish. ;D
Romney needs to just step away and enjoy his time and wealth.
when I'm wrong on a point, he debates that point.
when I'm right on a point, he insults me.
lately, i've been fairly spot on with things.
I've always maintained that the guy who REALLY wants to be president, is exactly the guy you don't need as president. Personal glory whores, psychopaths. Romney doesn't give a fuck about the poor or anyone for that matter. And when he pretends to, it's calculated. Hilary is the same. Just more psychotic.
But hey, don't let anyone stopped the shrieking morons that truly believe that this time it'll be different.
Loco asked about Mitt Romney, not Joe Biden.
Murdoch has been around forever. He's very wise. He knows people don't like mitt, and he watched mitt lose to a VERY beatable, tired and unpopular obama in 2012.
I have to wonder how many elections romney has to blow before his kneepadding supporters here give up on him. I mean, 2020 rolls around and "oh, this one is TOTALLY mitt's after the great race he ran to lose in 2016..."
Seriously.
Murdoch has been around forever. He's very wise. He knows people don't like mitt, and he watched mitt lose to a VERY beatable, tired and unpopular obama in 2012.
I have to wonder how many elections romney has to blow before his kneepadding supporters here give up on him. I mean, 2020 rolls around and "oh, this one is TOTALLY mitt's after the great race he ran to lose in 2016..."
Seriously.
I think even Obama was surprised at his margin of victory over Mitt
mitt was leading polls after winning that first debate handily against a tired, weak obama.
then he had to go open his mouth and motivate the 47% of voters that didn't care about obama at that point. big mistake there. That little "I'm not concerned with that 47% of people..." turned the tide.
Anyway, only a half-liberal would support Mitt, because he's half liberal on many current positions.
I give Biden some credit because after that first debate when Obama got served by Romney, Biden stiopped the bleeding by winning his debate....had Biden looked bad as well, it would have been doom for Obama going into the second debate....in that fiorst debate, Obama was so tight he looked constipated
I was shocked to see Paul Ryan get quiet, dribble his water, and just put his eyes down as drunk Uncle Joe just yelled and ranted and quoted all over him.
IMO, IF Paul Ryan had been able to take control of that debate - then maybe mitt wins that election. Imagine a Jeb or a Ron Paul in that room with Drunk uncle Joe yelling - no way they let him pull that bullshit. Paul Ryan just showed he didn't have balls or the killer instinct. sometimes you have to be a badass, show the nation you are tough. As smart as Ryan is... nobody sees him as tough, sorry.
Romney won the first debate by lying on every issue and Obama didnt call him on it.
Biden called Ryan on his BS and Ryan had no plan B.
By the way for anyone who says MSNBC is at the same level as FOX look at how they reacted to the first debate. MSNBC has a lot more credibility than FOX.
I was shocked to see Paul Ryan get quiet, dribble his water, and just put his eyes down as drunk Uncle Joe just yelled and ranted and quoted all over him.
IMO, IF Paul Ryan had been able to take control of that debate - then maybe mitt wins that election. Imagine a Jeb or a Ron Paul in that room with Drunk uncle Joe yelling - no way they let him pull that bullshit. Paul Ryan just showed he didn't have balls or the killer instinct. sometimes you have to be a badass, show the nation you are tough. As smart as Ryan is... nobody sees him as tough, sorry.
Uncle Joe used every debate trick in the book.....he spoke over his opponent (as if what Ryan was saying didn't matter)...interrupted him and corrected him with factual information,,,,smiled the entire debate and openly laughed and shook his head "no" at some of Ryan's comments thus giving the impression he was mocking his untruthfulness....I was very entertained...Biden also had a smug look on his face which signaled "I know everything kid, you don't" ...and was dismissive of Ryan
a lot of viewers that didn't know much about the issues just saw a powerful laughing man, and an intimidated weaker man.
Romney's attack on the former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is laughable on a couple of levels. One, since Romney has never served as Secretary of State, he has no performance record and no experience in that position and two calling her clueless when he was so "clueless" that he totally screwed up his last bid for the Presidency by disenfranchising a large portion of the voting public with his offhanded remarks....some people never learn.
I hate to say it, but there is nothing new here; what we are faced with is a bunch of losers running for President once again. It is no wonder people don't bother to vote.
To all U.S. citizens, how does it feel to be the laughing stock of the rest of the developed world? I am beginning to find it very embarrassing.
Fuck those guys...they have their own problems to tend to.
I don't now, nor have I ever cared what the rest of the world thought of The United States.
No man is an island.
To be honest with you I can understand why Romney feels he should be the nominee...in republican politics it is traditional for the past and most recent loser to become the nominee......Reagan, Bush 41, Dole, McCain...all lost primary fights before eventually becoming the nominee...Romney feels he should be anointed partly for that reason,,,hence he doesn't want Jeb or Rand skipping over him....he may have a point based on the structure of Republican politics
The party acknowledged your argument during the last cycle, which is why they allowed him to become the nominee. Almost everyone in the party now agrees that he had his chance and he blew it. Time to turn the page.
True but those same guys are on here bitching 10 times a day about the US.
After a while you simply begin to drown it out.
I get it. I live in the U.S. and life is pretty good here all-in-all. No complaints from me. I do think politics has gone to shit the last decade or so. It is really hard to know who to believe lately. Maybe they were always a bunch of idiots and crooks, but it seems worse lately regardless of which party you affiliate with.
As you may know, I live in Oregon. Our governor and his paramour are presently in the spotlight. Seems she's been gaining a huge financial advantage as a result of her relationship with the governor. She's apparently lied to the IRS regarding her income which she grossly under reported. Governor Kitzhaber and his much younger girlfriend appear to be a couple of scam artists and it is the taxpayer who is getting scammed as usual.
http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/01/john_kitzhaber_will_address_cy.html#incart_river
he just announced he wii not run
I read that article. Quite a circus you've got going on with the governor and his lady.
a vacancy in the GOP Klown Kar; quick, Sarah, Run, baby, Run!
Can we let this go already? He is not running.
Now back to the Kenyan Immaculate Conception
imagine YOU wanting to let something go....LOL.....that's what we've been saying about you and your Obama obsession
I'd come around with Romney, honestly. That Murdoch is against him (see above), and that Ann is his main source of direction, made him seem less like a suspect than the others from either party.
It will be the height of stupidity to see Bush "vs." Clinton, won't it? Can you believe what a bunch of idiots we are, to have gotten ourselves in this situation?
I am not sure just how we got ourselves into this situation, as you say. What exactly has the American public done to deserve the political candidates we have running for office these days? Can you elaborate on this for me?
In Hilary's case - the morons on the left still defend her lies on benghazi.
How is John Kerry doing as Secretary of State?
In Hilary's case - the morons on the left still defend her lies on benghazi.
That's funny......the Republicans have cleared the administration and said there was no coverup....I guess the Republicans agree with Hillary
False
Link or shut up.
I think its gonna be shut up :D
I am not sure just how we got ourselves into this situation, as you say. What exactly has the American public done to deserve the political candidates we have running for office these days? Can you elaborate on this for me?
Doom is amused.
This is such a humiliating loss: swatted down by your own party before the primary race even begins. What is your favorite Mitt quote?
"binders of women"
"the trees are the right height"
"I’m not familiar precisely with exactly what I said, but I stand by what I said whatever it was"
"corporations are people, my friend"
"the nominee who loses the general election is 'a loser for life.'"
"Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax... My job is not to worry about those people."
"I'm not concerned about the very poor"
"severely conservative"
Bah ha ha ha ha ha
I loved you in Marvel vs Capcom2 Dr.
As opposed to that gay muslim twinkletoes pos Obama right?
If we didn't get ourselves into the situation: who did?
Classic response. I asked a question which you didn't answer, instead posing another question. Answer my question and then we can move on to what or who got us into this mess, if that is in fact what it is.
Prime, if you're going to make a statement to suggest that something other than ourselves may be responsible for our situation (as you did), then you need to explain.
Your question doesn't make sense, otherwise.
It is only our situation if we own it. I don't.
I know what I am responsible for and I am not responsible for the quality of political candidates currently put before the voters. I personally have done nothing to support such a situation.
In the most recent election in Oregon, I felt there were a couple of offices where there was no candidate that deserved my vote. One was our Governor who was running for reelection and who I had voted for in the past. During the last legislative session, he turned his back on his supporters and his promises. Unfortunately, there were no other better candidates to vote for. I cast a non-vote by writing in my own name.
I did not create a system where we are stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to political candidates. It is frustrating to realize there are no viable candidates running for office. I don't have a solution to this. I don't have an answer. What I am asking is this, does anyone else know how we can fix a system that has been broken for a long time?
What does your experience in this life tell you, Prime? I'd really like to know what you think, if you're the age you claim to be. (not doubting you, necessarily) What things have changed, to alter the political process toward what we're faced with in 2015-16, etc.?
I think for me it has been a long process. When I was in my 20's and 30's politics barely interested me. I suspect I imagined our elected officials would take care of everything. I was very naive, obviously.
BTW, I am the age I claim to be although I can understand why someone might question this because I still can be very immature acting at times. LOL
Sometime during my late 30's and onward, I became a union activist. Along with this, I started getting more politically involved. The leadership at the union I associated with saw potential in my ability to speak from the heart with politicians regarding issues which concerned the folks I represented.
Over the last several decades, I lobbied in D.C. and at the state level many times. What this experience taught me is that most of the folks we elect to represent us are just like ourselves. There is nothing special about them other than their willingness to step up and sometime that enormous ego that motivates them to do so.
When I converse with Senators, Representative and even the President, I speak with them on a fairly equal level now. When I was young, I might have been awestruck. I am so over this now. They've lost whatever celebrity status they had in my mind as I have gotten to know them on a one-on-one basis.
Having said this, I don't want to give the impression that I have some manner of inside track to these folks. I'm just a regular citizen, like the rest of the folks in this country. You'd be surprised at how accessible our politicians are when all is said and done.
I worry that I've become somewhat jaded as I've matured. Some politicians do and say things which worry me because they seem so ignorant. I also worry that the financial benefits of being an elected official have clouded a lot of politicians viewpoints. I worry that we are not being well represented and I am concerned that there is no easy way to resolve this. The election process today is complex and getting elected is very expensive. Without the support of a heck of a lot of people and/or from corporate American (including foreign interests) no one could get elected. High principals and the desire to improve things is simply not going to cut it anymore, unfortunately.
Sorry for the windy reply, but this is not a topic that should be taken lightly....although I am a great believer in humor.
What do you mean by this, Prime?
Converse means to talk. I have met and spoken with my representatives in Congress, the President, Oregon's Governors, Senators and members of the House.
You'd said it as though it is a current involvement, in your last post. Is it?
Yes. Political activism continues to hold my interest. I am congressional and legislative network activist for a labor union. I am also the Board Chair for a nonprofit corporation which represents a sector of retired people.
The last time I spoke with President Obama was when he was in Portland, prior to being reelected. On the other hand I just received an email today from Jeff Merkly.
Everyone has the ability to dialog with their legislators. One way to do this is to attend their townhall meetings. One on one meetings are easier to schedule when you represent a large number of people, even then you might end up conversing with one of their staff.
That's something, Prime. Was your interaction with Obama anything further than a few words as he was moving by? It would be interesting if you'd give a description of what happened.
And I trust you've worked hard toward clamping down on immigration, "legal" and otherwise, given your union interests.
The conversation with President was very brief. He thanked me for my campaign work.
Our union has not been involved in immigration issues. These days, most of my political activism relates to senior issues.
Is it seen as some conflict of interest, politically speaking, given other affiliations?
I was writing a more detailed response when my computer decided to crash. I am taking this as a sign that a simpler reply is better.
My personal opinions about political issues is not in conflict with my professional ones, although they are often different. Sometimes there are conflicts of interest between labor issues and retiree issues, to be sure. The middle ground is that I am very clear about what my focus is today. As a senior and a retiree, that is where I am putting my energy.
Like most folks (I hope) I have opinions about a lot of issues before us today. Most recently, the controversy surrounding vaccinations. However, these extraneous personal opinions are not the issues which I was elected to lobby about. When I am speaking with legislators in one of my representative roles, it is not productive or even wise to not have a clear issue to discuss.
Mitt Romney's Niece Picked To Head Michigan Republican Party
by AP
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan Republicans picked a niece of Mitt Romney on Saturday to lead the state party for the next two years.
Ronna Romney McDaniel got 55 percent of the vote on the first ballot before delegates made the selection unanimous. Bobby Schostak didn't seek another two-year term after four years as chairman.
Republicans control the state Capitol but haven't delivered Michigan to a GOP presidential candidate since 1988. President Barack Obama defeated Romney, a Michigan native, and picked up the state's electoral votes in 2012.
"We might not agree on everything, but we can agree that seven years of liberal Obama policies have a destructive effect on our nation and we need to get a Republican in the White House through Michigan in 2016," McDaniel, 41, of Northville, told the convention.
The other candidates for party chair were Norm Hughes, who worked for former President Ronald Reagan, and Kim Shmina, a nurse.
Mike Farage of Grand Rapids said he voted for McDaniel partly because she wants to make the party more appealing to minorities — "the elephant in the room" for Republicans.
Republicans made some changes in local leadership Friday night as Norm Shinkle in the 8th District and Paul Welday in the 14th District were defeated.
Gov. Rick Snyder, who was re-elected in November, recorded a video greeting but didn't attend the convention while he recovers from a blood clot in his leg, spokesman Dave Murray said.
Nepotism is an amazing drug
Mitt Romney's Niece Picked To Head Michigan Republican Party
by AP
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan Republicans picked a niece of Mitt Romney on Saturday to lead the state party for the next two years.
Ronna Romney McDaniel got 55 percent of the vote on the first ballot before delegates made the selection unanimous. Bobby Schostak didn't seek another two-year term after four years as chairman.
Republicans control the state Capitol but haven't delivered Michigan to a GOP presidential candidate since 1988. President Barack Obama defeated Romney, a Michigan native, and picked up the state's electoral votes in 2012.
"We might not agree on everything, but we can agree that seven years of liberal Obama policies have a destructive effect on our nation and we need to get a Republican in the White House through Michigan in 2016," McDaniel, 41, of Northville, told the convention.
The other candidates for party chair were Norm Hughes, who worked for former President Ronald Reagan, and Kim Shmina, a nurse.
Mike Farage of Grand Rapids said he voted for McDaniel partly because she wants to make the party more appealing to minorities — "the elephant in the room" for Republicans.
Republicans made some changes in local leadership Friday night as Norm Shinkle in the 8th District and Paul Welday in the 14th District were defeated.
Gov. Rick Snyder, who was re-elected in November, recorded a video greeting but didn't attend the convention while he recovers from a blood clot in his leg, spokesman Dave Murray said.
Looks as retarded at Terry Schiavo. LMFAO.
Not a flattering portrait, true. Presumably she does not always look like this. :-\
"I know I lost twice and dropped out of the race this time before it began, but I still want to be relevant. Pay attention to me!" ::)
might be angling for a cabinet post........Secretary of the Treasury???....we know he sure loves money
To be honest he looks really good for a man his age....I wonder if he lifts?
Life after defeat for Mitt Romney: Public praise, private questions
By Philip Rucker
BOSTON — Mitt Romney began his retreat from public life Wednesday at a private breakfast gathering with a couple hundred of his most loyal and affluent campaign benefactors. The former Massachusetts governor, humbled by the thumping that ended his six-year pursuit of the presidency, reminisced about the journey and tried not to cry.
Romney waxed about the roaring crowds in the campaign’s closing days and the feeling that he was winning, said donors in attendance. He commended Stuart Stevens, his chief strategist, as well as his senior aides, and then went around thanking donors one by one.
“Mitt was vintage Mitt,” said L.E. Simmons, an oil investor on Romney’s national finance committee. “He was analytical, no notes, spoke from the heart and was very appreciative.”
But Romney’s top aides, who only a couple of days ago were openly speculating about who would fill which jobs in a Romney administration, woke up Wednesday to face brutal recriminations.
Some top donors privately unloaded on Romney’s senior staff, describing it as a junior varsity operation that failed to adequately insulate and defend Romney through a summer of relentless attacks from the Obama campaign over his business career and personal wealth.
“Everybody feels like they were a bunch of well-meaning folks who were, to use a phrase that Governor Romney coined to describe his opponent, way in over their heads,” said one member of the campaign’s national finance committee, who requested anonymity to speak candidly.
“Romney World,” the fundraiser added, “will fade into the obscurity of a lot of losing campaigns.”
Stuart Stevens, who as Romney’s chief strategist was the recipient of some of the harshest blame, did not return requests for comment Wednesday. Nor did many of Romney’s other top advisers, who during Romney’s concession speech were visibly shell-shocked.
Bob White, Romney’s close friend and business partner who chaired the campaign, strongly defended Stevens and the rest of the staff in an interview a few weeks ago.
“Mitt never doubted his team, and the reports of infighting were not true,” White said.
In Washington, meanwhile, scores of transition-team staffers who had been preparing for a Romney administration started packing their belongings Wednesday.
Mike Leavitt, the former Utah governor running the transition, convened a conference call at 10 a.m. to inform the staff they had until Friday to organize their files, return their laptops and cellphones and vacate their government office.
At the Wednesday breakfast, Romney told the donors he believed Hurricane Sandy stunted his momentum in the final week of the campaign, according to multiple donors present.
Although Romney himself stopped short of placing any blame on New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who praised President Obama’s leadership during the storm, several Romney supporters privately pointed fingers at the outspoken governor.
“A lot of people feel like Christie hurt, that we definitely lost four or five points between the storm and Chris Christie giving Obama a chance to be bigger than life,” said one of Romney’s biggest fundraisers, who requested anonymity to speak candidly.
Another major Romney fundraiser said Christie’s embrace of Obama after Sandy walloped his state only deepened a rift that opened between the Romney and Christie camps over the summer.
Christie and his wife were unhappy with Romney’s vice presidential search process, believing they were “led a little bit far down the garden path” without being picked, the fundraiser said.
Romney advisers have said they were disappointed with Christie’s keynote address at the Republican National Convention because they believed the speaker focused too much on himself and not enough on the candidate. Republicans close to Christie, however, said the Romney team approved the final draft of the speech.
Some Romney advisers insisted Wednesday that tensions with Christie have been overstated.
“The problem with Sandy was not Chris Christie,” said one political adviser. “The problem with Sandy was we couldn’t talk about the choice argument for the last week of the campaign. At a time when Barack Obama’s campaign was small, it allowed him to be bigger, and provided him a vehicle for him to show he can be bipartisan.”
Christie on Wednesday defended his work as a surrogate on Romney’s behalf, saying, ”I did my job.”
“I wouldn’t call what I did an embrace of Barack Obama,” Christie said at a news conference. “I know that’s become the wording of it, but the fact of the matter is, you know, I’m a guy who tells the truth all the time. And if the president of the United States did something good, I was gonna say he did something good and give him credit for it.”
He continued, “But it doesn’t take away for a minute the fact that I was the first governor to endorse Mitt Romney, that I traveled literally tens of thousands of miles for him, raised tens of millions of dollars for him and worked harder, I think, than any other surrogate in America other than Paul Ryan, who became his running mate.”
The time will come for Romney and his campaign leadership to fully assess what went wrong. Some of his top donors immediately pointed to the campaign’s early strategic decision to frame the race as a referendum on Obama rather than a choice between two different governing philosophies and leadership styles.
A second member of Romney’s national finance committee said that while the campaign’s tactics and fundraising organization were executed well, the strategy and message were “total failures.” This fundraiser added that the campaign’s cautious and adversarial relationship with the news media proved detrimental.
“That strategy was we don’t want to define differences, we want it to be a referendum not a choice, but it was always going to be a choice. Elections are a choice. Their fundamental premise was incorrect — and when you’re incorrect on this level, you are shunned by people in the party,” said the fundraiser, who requested anonymity to speak candidly.
But Romney, those close to him said, is not second guessing the counsel or work of his staff. After he spoke at Wednesday’s breakfast, Simmons said he spoke privately with Romney.
“I said, ‘So what are you going to do for the next few weeks? Let’s do something fun,’ ” Simmons recalled. “And he said, ‘Uh, I’m going to be really busy.’ He said, ‘I have 400 people to get great jobs for.’ ”
Late Wednesday afternoon, as sleet fell in Boston’s North End, Romney visited his campaign headquarters for one final staff meeting. He thanked his aides and said goodbye. His Secret Service detail gone — and with it his code name, Javelin, after a car once made by his father’s company — Romney was spotted driving off in the backseat of his son Tagg’s car. His wife, Ann, was riding shotgun.
If anyone rewatches the presidential debate between Obama and Romney they'll realize that not only has Obama not come through with anything he had claimed he would, he was actually wrong statistically and in the economics category he was blown away in every way, shape and form by Romney. I think Obama is the reason for this politically correct full-of-bullshit America we have now where they're glorifying criminals over police and the self entitledness of the public is pathetic.. It shows in his pathetic approval rate.. Even crats getting sick of him..
Perhaps Romney should run again. Or did you think America was in a state of bliss when Obama took over and "ruined" it all?
Stop making a fool of yourself. ::)
Whens the last time there was a riot to that extent where the city had to have a curfew and continued through new york as well... Where police were disrespected as they are these days? The likes of this has NEVER BEEN SEEN.. And to think that people support this lunatic is beyond me.. Cannot even call terrorists..Terrorists! "Islamic extremism" Of corse i'll be made a fool of myself if you put words in my mouth...Never said America was in a state of bliss..I've never heard a president brag about things that are either not because of his own doing, or because the public has no concept of things..
Gas prices has nothing to do with Obama..Had nothing to do with Bush either..Foreign economics not wanting America to be self-sufficient backfired wholeheartedly..But you'll hear the Obama lovers who drive a prius with the re-elected sticker on their back window bragging to the intelligent folk who are laughing in their head about how stupid this person is for saying that...who gives a shit if there are more jobs now? There is now petitioning for min. wage to be raised more than ever because all he did was create shit jobs through temporary programs..I'll even go as far as saying he's a pedophile..(just kidding)
Whens the last time there was a riot to that extent where the city had to have a curfew and continued through new york as well... Where police were disrespected as they are these days? The likes of this has NEVER BEEN SEEN.. And to think that people support this lunatic is beyond me.. Cannot even call terrorists..Terrorists! "Islamic extremism" Of corse i'll be made a fool of myself if you put words in my mouth...Never said America was in a state of bliss..I've never heard a president brag about things that are either not because of his own doing, or because the public has no concept of things..
Gas prices has nothing to do with Obama..Had nothing to do with Bush either..Foreign economics not wanting America to be self-sufficient backfired wholeheartedly..But you'll hear the Obama lovers who drive a prius with the re-elected sticker on their back window bragging to the intelligent folk who are laughing in their head about how stupid this person is for saying that...who gives a shit if there are more jobs now? There is now petitioning for min. wage to be raised more than ever because all he did was create shit jobs through temporary programs..I'll even go as far as saying he's a pedophile..(just kidding)
if this poster didn't write in complete sentences I would guess 333386/SC has returned!
if this poster didn't write in complete sentences I would guess 333386/SC has returned!
You know nothing of mental impairment based on a post you don't agree with...It is okay if the liberal Hilary Clinton fans band together and want to create change together it's rather cute to the queer eye...But not mine i see right through the politically correct bullshit and use the logical approach to things..Mentally impaired for that? I think not.except some of us have seen 35,000+ similar posts from SC/333386. so we know of what we speak.
“The Democrats have done a great job characterizing my party as the party of the rich,” Romney said. “Nothing could be further from the truth.”
He added: “Rich people have gotten richer under President Obama. It’s the poor and the middle class who are suffering. It’s the poor and the middle class who need conservatives.”
One might ask why Mitt being super rich would be a Republican. Are we to believe his higher purpose is to help the poor and middleclass so they can stop suffering?
there's a LOT of talk about the GOP making a Romney-Ryan II ticket to stop trump at the convention.
by that point, you'll have hilary donating millions of dollars to keep Trump in the race. LOL. She is benefiting so much. Trump being anti-muslim is all over the news. She skates on by, up 30 points over bernie.
I guess that's all a matter of perspective. They released email proof this week that DOD through AFRICOM had assets ready to go to support the fight in Benghazi and DOS turned them down. So all the rumors about Gen Hamm getting into with his staff...must have been something to it. Hil lied straight up multiple times and nobody was held accountable. I guess its good she's low key...she's just as surprised as the RINO's that Ol Donald has struck a nerve with the electorate. Most polls have his Muslim idea pretty popular along with favorable ratings on assault weapons. Must make her and Obama's head explode. Oddly the two highest least favorable ratings running...Trump and Hil.
Mitt Romney will skip Trump’s nominating convention in Cleveland
By Philip Rucker
Mitt Romney, the 2012 Republican presidential nominee, plans to skip this summer's Republican National Convention in Cleveland where Donald Trump will be officially nominated — an unusual move that underscores the deep unease many Republican leaders have about the brash celebrity mogul as their standard bearer.
A Romney aide told The Washington Post by email Thursday morning, "Governor Romney has no plans to attend convention."
Romney has been one of Trump's chief critics this spring. He delivered a searing, point-by-point indictment of Trump in March — from his business record to his character to his divisive campaign-trail rhetoric.
Trump, who endorsed Romney in 2012 and raised money for his campaign, has since been harshly critical of the campaign that Romney ran. In an interview last month, Trump told The Post that he understood it would be “very hard” for Romney to attend the convention but that he would have no qualms about him being in Cleveland.
“I don’t care,” Trump said. “He can be there if he wants.”
Romney's announcement comes after the GOP's two living former presidents — George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush — announced Wednesday night through their spokesmen that they did not plan to endorse a candidate this year.
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the party's 2008 presidential nominee, also plans to skip the convention in Cleveland. McCain is facing a potentially difficult reelection campaign in Arizona, a border state with a large Latino population where Trump's hard-line position on immigration may prove polarizing.
romney would LOVE to wreck Trump's party lol. It sure would help Hilary ;)
Trump is probably praying for a repub independent run. He doesn't really want to WIN this thing haha.
+1
I think he specifically got into the race just to cast the other GOP candidates in a bad light. Which really, was not very hard to do in the first place.
Yeah, he is not the personality that WANTS to be president. People don't tell him on often. As president, it'll be 4 or 8 years of dealing with the toughest pricks in the world each day. Trump is a ribbon cutter, not an accountant. He doesn't want to spend 13 hours a day reading briefs and legislation, he lives a very comfy lifestyle now.
whether he wanted to just raise his national profile, or just help hilary, or just take lots of digs at the repus he's hated his entire life... it's turning into Brewster's Millions suddenly :)
Win Or Lose, A Third Party Run Would Be Mitt Romney’s Greatest Legacy
Jamie Weinstein
Mitt Romney may be the #NeverTrump movement’s last chance for a third party bid.
Anti-Trump conservatives have so far been unsuccessful in recruiting a candidate to mount a third party run against Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Gen. James Mattis said no thanks. Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse said he is too busy raising his children to run for president. Former Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn said he is not interested.
Faced with the prospect of two liberals competing for the White House, the #NeverTrump movement is reportedly still looking for a serious alternative to the current option of political malaria or political Ebola. Though Romney has indicated he would prefer someone else take on Trump and Hillary, the reality is he may be the last best hope for a serious third party bid — and the last best hope to keep the flame of conservatism burning brightly.
It’s strange to think that Romney as the last best hope for conservatism. Many conservatives weren’t exactly thrilled with him as the 2012 Republican nominee because of the health care plan he instituted in Massachusetts. But in the age of a Trumpian Republican Party, Romney looks a lot like Attila the Hun. He may not be “severely” conservative, but unlike Donald Trump, he is at least something of a conservative — one that understands the importance of America’s role in the world, the need to fix our entitlement programs, the constraints of our constitutional system and how to create an environment where our economy can soar.
And unlike the other potential #NeverTrump third party candidates, he has the name recognition and organizational know how to make a third party run more than a Potemkin effort.
Perhaps one reason keeping Romney on the sidelines is a concern about what a run would do to his legacy. Does the former Massachusetts governor really want to risk becoming a three-time presidential loser?
That’s a fair concern, but Romney should keep in mind that history remembers very few people. Romney is a very accomplished man, more accomplished and well-known than most everyone in the United States today, but outside of academic faculty lounges, few people will remember his name 20 years from now.
But if he wants to be something more than a historical footnote, something more memorable, this is his opportunity. History beckons. The two major party presumptive presidential nominees are terrible, both boasting record high unfavorable ratings. The Democrat is a compulsive liar who struggles to name a single accomplishment of any worth. The Republican is an even more compulsive liar who has proposed economic policies that could bring on an economic depression. Even more alarming, he seems infatuated with the power dictators wield and, dictator-like, has mused about altering the First Amendment to prevent publications from criticizing him.
Clearly a third party run would be an uphill battle. But Romney should keep in mind that all those who say that a third party candidacy has no shot to succeed also predicted Donald Trump had no chance to be the Republican nominee. Nothing is certain this election cycle.
Indeed, if a third party candidate ever had a shot of being viable again, this seems like the year. A new poll shows that even without campaigning, Romney is within striking distance of Trump and Clinton nationally, trailing Trump by just 13-percentage points and Clinton by 15-percentage points in a hypothetical match-up. Not bad for an undeclared candidate who would not have the backing of either of the two major parties.
Could Romney win enough states to push the election to the House of Representatives? Stranger things have happened. Could the Republican-controlled House choose Romney over Trump and Clinton? Sure, why not?
But even in a losing effort, Romney can forge a legacy far greater than anything he has created to date. For starters, he would prevent a liberal authoritarian from becoming the face of conservatism. Most importantly, he would prevent Trump from getting anywhere near the White House. America might suffer under a President Clinton. But a President Trump might well prove a threat to the American system itself.
So Romney has a big decision to make. If he decides to run, he could make history and potentially save the country from two terrible presidential contenders. And if his effort just sabotages Trump’s prospects, his run will still have been well worth it. Even if much of the nation doesn’t recognize his noble act, surely generations of Romneys will take pride in a patriarch who answered his country’s call, took on a wannabe authoritarian and thwarted the threat he posed to the nation.
Yeah, it's not like he has everything he ever did with his name stamped on it. He totally doesn't want to hold the most powerful and recognizable position on the earth. That wouldn't fit his style and ego at all. ::)
Do you know how many people want to own and develop the best real estate in NYC? Do you know how many people want to own a casino? Do you know how many people would love to write bestselling books? Do you know how many people would kill to have a top rated TV show? Do you know how many politicians work their entire lives to not even get to the national stage?
Trump is at the least a very effective entrepreneur on a huge scale and a genius as far as self-branding. What he does takes 13 hours a day - for years and years. You pulled all that out of your ass and if you had spent any time being a true entrepreneur you would know this. You can call the guy self-serving or whatever you want but calling him lazy is just nuts.
Might as well bump this gem to try and remind/bring 240 back...
Aaaaand Romney totally destroyed made politically impotent by Trump with Tillerson as his Secretary of State pick. Brutal retribution for that speech Romney made.
Romney has no self respect. What a pussy. Up their with Pussy McCain.