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Title: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: bigben280 on February 17, 2007, 06:25:02 PM
 I need your opinions and/or some resources for a research project--is a conspiracy--was it shot in room??Thanks.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 17, 2007, 06:27:45 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6692952930996256219&q=secret+space


nuff said..

we did go

it ws before we saied we did..
nail and buzz just stayed in high orbit.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: bigben280 on February 17, 2007, 06:29:58 PM
thanks you--anyone disagree??
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: benjamin pearson on February 17, 2007, 06:36:21 PM
I personally dont think we ever went...... I saw something on TV about it that was pretty convincing including the fact that the flag was blowing and that would be impossible on the moon
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: trulytoned on February 17, 2007, 06:41:19 PM
and you dont see any new videos of it.
Even if they went today it would be interesting to watch
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 17, 2007, 06:56:08 PM
I personally dont think we ever went...... I saw something on TV about it that was pretty convincing including the fact that the flag was blowing and that would be impossible on the moon

check Van alen radiation belt and moon landing ;)
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 17, 2007, 07:13:34 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6692952930996256219&q=secret+space


nuff said..

we did go

it ws before we saied we did..
nail and buzz just stayed in high orbit.


That's a 2 hour fuccking video!  Are you nuts??  How 'bout the Cliff notes version?   >:(
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 17, 2007, 07:25:15 PM

That's a 2 hour fuccking video!  Are you nuts??  How 'bout the Cliff notes version?   >:(

juuust watch it..

somethings dont have the cliff notes man..something are important enough f royu to make the damn effort ..i did  >:(

" the makers of that movie contacted the manufacturer of our space suites used for the lunar landing and asked if they were ok to use in chernobal"


NOT SAFE to use ws the answer..

hmm the van allen radatuion belt....riiight oputside the earths magnetic field has a higher radiation level than cherolnybel...yet buzz and neil so much as so didn't even puke once!  :o

also upon landing on the moon..the lander didn't leave a blast crater..

plus..upon landing on the moon..different rocks on the moon have shadows pointing in different directions..and thats a wow with ONE light source..


we DID GO to the moon...

it wasn't when and how we were told..


" houston BE ADVISED THERE IS A SANTA CLAUSE..BE ADVISED THERE IS A SANAA CLAUSE"

research that quote...

And IF YOU NEED PROOF without a shadow of a resonable doubt..

www.video.google.com
NADS evidence

watch part 1 and 2..all 3 hours..YOU WILL BE CONVINCED

you wont though... :-\  like most you wont look at the evidence cause..you r convinced u r right..(however in your case goat..you r not religious..so you might)
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 17, 2007, 08:17:07 PM
Okay, so without me wasting hours on this....   we did go to the moon, but not on the Apollo 11 mission w Neil, Buzz, and the gang?



Okay... fine..... who cares?


This effects me how, exactly?
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: chainsaw on February 17, 2007, 10:39:10 PM
The VCR wasn't invented yet...  But we had technology to go to the moon
How were the films transmited instantly, we didn't even have poloroid back then.
light travels 186,000 miles a second, the moon is 225,000 miles away
the radio would have at least have had a 2 second delay, even when nasa said they "had to land by computer the luner lander from houston and armstrong had to take over."  BS, I'm a pilot, I know
Where are the photos of the lander landing in the water, it just appeared,
There is no blast under the lunar lander or pad prints from the landing gear, but Neils footprints appeared when he stepped on the surface.. hahahahahahah

Oh Yeah, Nasa lost the original tapes....  thats like the national archives losing our original constitution.
We have lost 2 shuttles on reentry with all the computers, but apollo had the computer that is now the capacity of a cell phone.

In 1989, there was a delay on the telephone when I'd call my mom from cali to pittsburgh.  But not 225,000 miles away on a radio.

We lost the vietnam war, but went to the moon, yeah right!
Nixon was president, the biggest liar,
The nasa money that was granted was really designated to build nuclear bombs for the cold war.

Come on Fella's, Get real.  We went to the moon, but are building a space station now?  For what?
Build a research station on the moon?
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: beatmaster on February 17, 2007, 11:13:06 PM

yes we did, and i found this, explanations about fake pics, conspiracy theory :

http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: Nordic Superman on February 18, 2007, 03:26:38 AM
Junaid le cock sooker is talking ze shite...

We went to the moon.

I've debunked the radiation BS before.

He's an idiot.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 18, 2007, 08:33:45 AM
Okay, so without me wasting hours on this....   we did go to the moon, but not on the Apollo 11 mission w Neil, Buzz, and the gang?



Okay... fine..... who cares?


This effects me how, exactly?



dont ya care that the BIGGEST most IMPORTANT truth in the universe...that we are NOT alone..has been kept from us?

does that not piss ya off?

does it also not piss ya off that technology far advanced from us might have  been kept from us and the chance to see and study it has been kept from us..

it pisses me off..
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 18, 2007, 08:34:49 AM


I've debunked the radiation BS before.



lol..you mean you posted a few sites that de bunked it...

ok now go look up the lunar lander pictures and explain to me why there is no impact crater under..
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 18, 2007, 08:36:28 AM
The VCR wasn't invented yet...  But we had technology to go to the moon
How were the films transmited instantly, we didn't even have poloroid back then.
light travels 186,000 miles a second, the moon is 225,000 miles away
the radio would have at least have had a 2 second delay, even when nasa said they "had to land by computer the luner lander from houston and armstrong had to take over."  BS, I'm a pilot, I know
Where are the photos of the lander landing in the water, it just appeared,
There is no blast under the lunar lander or pad prints from the landing gear, but Neils footprints appeared when he stepped on the surface.. hahahahahahah

Oh Yeah, Nasa lost the original tapes....  thats like the national archives losing our original constitution.
We have lost 2 shuttles on reentry with all the computers, but apollo had the computer that is now the capacity of a cell phone.

In 1989, there was a delay on the telephone when I'd call my mom from cali to pittsburgh.  But not 225,000 miles away on a radio.

We lost the vietnam war, but went to the moon, yeah right!
Nixon was president, the biggest liar,
The nasa money that was granted was really designated to build nuclear bombs for the cold war.

Come on Fella's, Get real.  We went to the moon, but are building a space station now?  For what?
Build a research station on the moon?



thankyou..i highly recommend ya watch secret space..uits on video google.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: Nordic Superman on February 18, 2007, 08:41:55 AM
lol..you mean you posted a few sites that de bunked it...

ok now go look up the lunar lander pictures and explain to me why there is no impact crater under..

Oh, right, sites & videos aren't valid evidence? WTF? ALL YOU FUCKING DO IS POST VIDEOS!
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 08:48:20 AM
ok now go look up the lunar lander pictures and explain to me why there is no impact crater under..

I'm curious on this.  Who can answer it?  That craft landed with a great deal of fire and thrust lowering it. SHould have been a nice mark under it.  But there wasn't one.  That IS odd.  Can someone address it?
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: bigben280 on February 18, 2007, 07:41:31 PM
Guys, Great debate so far, thank you!  It seem that were about 50% "we did" and the same we didnt. Keep them coming if you can.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 07:48:35 PM
BBen,

also check out motives for any lies.

Winning the space race gave the US a super leg up for the emerging technologies and investors of the 70s.  Also we gave USSR a great deal of grain and other aid, which some skeptics believe was a request for quiet.

IMO the lack of any follow up missions, by any nation, is an interesting sign.  If we were so successful with 1969 technology, it should be a breeze today. 

whatever your position, skeptics will find one hole they believe blows the whole sory and swear by it.  Official story people (80% of people) will usually call someone a nut before considering any of their evidence.  There are probably 5 or 10 major errors in the story NASA gave us - PSI in teh suits, radiation, communications timing, and the shady pictures - which remain unanswered.  Good luck with the project.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: haider on February 18, 2007, 07:51:05 PM
Why haven't russian scientists pointed out these inconsistencies  ???
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 18, 2007, 07:57:10 PM


dont ya care that the BIGGEST most IMPORTANT truth in the universe...that we are NOT alone..has been kept from us?

does that not piss ya off?

does it also not piss ya off that technology far advanced from us might have  been kept from us and the chance to see and study it has been kept from us..

it pisses me off..


Oh for god's sake!  This is about UFO's and little green men??  ::) ::)   Quick! Someone call Mulder and Scully!   ::)
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 08:00:28 PM
Why haven't russian scientists pointed out these inconsistencies  ???

Scientists from all nationalities have.  They are mocked for their beliefs.  (Note - I am not making a judgment on the validity of their arguments).

In 1955, a great deal of people believed we were visited by aliens.  The govt put out a memo in 55 which instructed media how to mock and label individuals with beliefs that differed from teh govt position.  Included the disrespectful words to use and the labels to apply each time (CT, nut).  This edict has been in use ever since then to label people who believe something contrary to the official story of most events.  it's worked too.  When someone says UFOs or 911 truth, most people instinctivly think "conspiracy theory" and many will hum twilight zone music.  This is not accidental.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 18, 2007, 09:11:05 PM

Oh for god's sake!  This is about UFO's and little green men??  ::) ::)   Quick! Someone call Mulder and Scully!   ::)


fermis paradox
let your learning begin o rich but ill informed 1..

then google drake equation...


lemme know when ya done with these 2..
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: beatmaster on February 18, 2007, 10:55:38 PM
I'm curious on this.  Who can answer it?  That craft landed with a great deal of fire and thrust lowering it. SHould have been a nice mark under it.  But there wasn't one.  That IS odd.  Can someone address it?

well i found this:

Bad: The next argument presented on the show deals with the lunar dust. As the lander descended, we clearly see dust getting blown away by the rocket. The exhaust should have blown all the dust away, yet we can clearly see the astronauts' footprints in the dust mere meters from the lander. Obviously, when NASA faked this they messed it up.

Good: Once again, the weird alien environment of the Moon comes to play. Imagine taking a bag of flour and dumping it onto your kitchen floor (kids: ask your folks first!). Now bend over the pile, take a deep breath, and blow into it as hard as you can. Poof! Flour goes everywhere. Why? Because the momentum of your breath goes into the flour, which makes it move. But note that the flour goes up, and sideways, and aloft into the air. If you blow hard enough, you might see little curlicues of air lifting the flour farther than your breath alone could have, and doing so to dust well outside of where your breath actually blew.

That's the heart of this problem. We are used to air helping us blow things around. The air itself is displaced by your breath, which pushed on more air, and so on. On the Earth, your breath might blow flour that was dozens of centimeters away, even though your actual breath didn't reach that far. On the Moon, there is no air. The only dust that gets blown around by the exhaust of the rocket (which, remember, isn't nearly as strong as the HBs claim) is the dust physically touched by the exhaust, or dust hit by other bits of flying dust. In the end, only the dust directly under or a bit around the rocket was blown out by the exhaust. The rest was left where it was. Ironically, the dust around the landing site was probably a bit thicker than before, since the dust blown out would have piled up there.

I can't resist: another Hoax Believer argument bites the dust.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 11:04:30 PM
Well, some of the astronauts who have been to the moon are still alive... Oddly enough... They are the people I'm going to believe... Until one of them says, it was a haox, I've gotta go with it... They are real people and I'm not going to call those individual people liars.

Not in the least.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 11:09:53 PM
Well, some of the astronauts who have been to the moon are still alive... Oddly enough... They are the people I'm going to believe... Until one of them says, it was a haox, I've gotta go with it...

Interestingly, they benefit MOST from being the guys who went to the moon and therefore would be the LAST people to admit it was staged even if the rest of the world says it was.  They have a place in history, global recognition, and a nice pension.  Plus they've all lived to be 70 or 80, so ya know they have decent health care.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 11:14:05 PM
Interestingly, they benefit MOST from being the guys who went to the moon and therefore would be the LAST people to admit it was staged even if the rest of the world says it was.  They have a place in history, global recognition, and a nice pension.  Plus they've all lived to be 70 or 80, so ya know they have decent health care.

Sure, they do ok, but if they wrote a book, produced a movie, and did all of that, they'd have a LOT more money.

Also, I've consulted at NASA... I've seen the data from the missions... I've seen pieces of what they claim is moon rock... I've looked at the stuff they have about it.

I have to go with them on that it's true... I just do.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2007, 11:17:47 PM
the president of NASA took a trip to antarctica one year before the mission and brought back a bunch of rock samples.  Also he resigned one day before teh Apollo launch, oddly enough.

i dont' know that it's faked.  My suspicion is that some was theater.  The photos with the doubled backdrop, and the pics with the fudged crosshairs show there was some photochopping back then.  And the PSIs don't add up on the suits - they should have looked like staypuft up there. 

No one died, so I don't care if it was staged or not.  It did put the US in an advantageous position for the upcoming cold war 70s/80s.  If Russia had faked it, THEY would be ruling the world right now. 
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 11:24:33 PM
the president of NASA took a trip to antarctica one year before the mission and brought back a bunch of rock samples.  Also he resigned one day before teh Apollo launch, oddly enough.

i dont' know that it's faked.  My suspicion is that some was theater.  The photos with the doubled backdrop, and the pics with the fudged crosshairs show there was some photochopping back then.  And the PSIs don't add up on the suits - they should have looked like staypuft up there. 

No one died, so I don't care if it was staged or not.  It did put the US in an advantageous position for the upcoming cold war 70s/80s.  If Russia had faked it, THEY would be ruling the world right now. 

That is most likely true... The simple fact is that we presented our superiority and we spent enough money to make people believe it...

That's why we're a super power and Russia is trying to make sure they just have "power"... to keep the lights on.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 18, 2007, 11:27:22 PM
the president of NASA


NASA has a "president"?  ::)
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: tu_holmes on February 18, 2007, 11:29:02 PM

NASA has a "president"?  ::)

At NASA he is the "Administrator" actually.
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: beatmaster on February 18, 2007, 11:33:40 PM

If it was a moon hoax, we all know that Russia, China, East Germany and other cold-war enemies of the USA closely monitored the lunar missions.  It was easy to tell whether the Apollo radio signals were coming from the direction of the Moon, and whether the time delays in conversation matched the distance the signals had to travel.  If anything had seemed wrong, surely these unfriendly countries would have loudly shouted to the world that the USA was pulling a hoax!  Yet none of them ever questioned NASA's accomplishment.  When even your enemy gives you credit for something, it's pretty convincing!
Title: Re: DID WE "REALLY" LAND ON THE MOON
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 19, 2007, 06:47:17 AM
Buzz aldrin talk about a UFO...