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Title: Frank Zane
Post by: ribonucleic on December 26, 2008, 06:39:10 PM
They got bigger. But they didn't get better.

(http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/8/7/877240.1136821538270.zane.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: tbombz on December 26, 2008, 06:41:45 PM
if a list of best ifbb pros were made, zane would be in the bottom half.  ;)
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: 240 is Back on December 26, 2008, 06:42:27 PM
They got bigger. But they didn't get better.

Zane had good lines, but was outmassed by nearly everyone he stood next to :(
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Wiggs on December 26, 2008, 06:43:04 PM
if a list of best ifbb pros were made, zane would be in the bottom half.  ;)

You're correct but if given a list of bodies people would like to strive for Zane would more than likely win followed by Arnold.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: tbombz on December 26, 2008, 06:44:23 PM
You're correct but if given a list of bodies people would like to strive for Zane would more than likely win followed by Arnold.
yea. not bout arnold though. paris, ect..most people like skinny with abs, not much muscle compared to pros.

however i bet most bodybuilders owuld pick coleman 98-2001
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: The Coach on December 26, 2008, 07:57:49 PM
Zane had good lines, but was outmassed by nearly everyone he stood next to :(

And still won.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: 240 is Back on December 26, 2008, 08:01:06 PM
And still won.

Does the best man always win, Joe?










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Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: The Coach on December 26, 2008, 08:02:42 PM
Does the best man always win, Joe?










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No....not always! BTW, brutal 6'2 140lbs and 24% BF.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: johnny1 on December 26, 2008, 08:04:25 PM
You're correct but if given a list of bodies people would like to strive for Zane would more than likely win followed by Arnold.
agreed
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: kiwiol on December 26, 2008, 08:30:10 PM
They got bigger. But they didn't get better.

And not just the swimmers - bodybuilders too ;D
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: garebear on December 26, 2008, 08:33:01 PM
They got bigger. But they didn't get better.

(http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/8/7/877240.1136821538270.zane.jpg)
Lean, mean, pussy-wrecking machine.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 26, 2008, 08:38:14 PM
A work of art
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Big Freak on December 26, 2008, 08:40:29 PM
he fat
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: flagadajones on December 26, 2008, 10:47:36 PM
he obviously didnt like training legs or chest.

Im pretty sure he used very little steroids and trained almost naturally, you can tell his physique is just a pushed to the limits natural body with some juice added in the mix.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: tbombz on December 26, 2008, 10:49:47 PM
he obviously didnt like training legs or chest.

Im pretty sure he used very little steroids and trained almost naturally, you can tell his physique is just a pushed to the limits natural body with some juice added in the mix.
lol, no, actually zane used quite a bit, hence his nickname 'the chemist'. he was a huge fan of the thyroid hormone though, and i think he may not have eaten enough to grow big while using it.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Dreadlord on December 26, 2008, 11:41:01 PM
lol, no, actually zane used quite a bit, hence his nickname 'the chemist'. he was a huge fan of the thyroid hormone though, and i think he may not have eaten enough to grow big while using it.

Didn't Arnold get all his "nutrition" info off Zane?

Labrada was called "chemist" as well
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: WillGrant on December 27, 2008, 12:04:15 AM
lol, no, actually zane used quite a bit, hence his nickname 'the chemist'. he was a huge fan of the thyroid hormone though, and i think he may not have eaten enough to grow big while using it.
Ive read that frank fuked his thyroid completly and is on prescribed meds for life..any truth to this?
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: tbombz on December 27, 2008, 12:06:03 AM
Ive read that frank fuked his thyroid completly and is on prescribed meds for life..any truth to this?
not that i know of.

Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: gracie bjj on December 27, 2008, 01:27:17 AM
franks on t-3 for the rest of his life,its true.he blew his thyroid out just like fitness star alphie newman did in the 90,s,from to much cytomel for to long of a time
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Soundness on December 27, 2008, 01:30:26 AM
Frank Zane won for the right reasons.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: garebear on December 27, 2008, 01:33:22 AM
franks on t-3 for the rest of his life,its true.he blew his thyroid out just like fitness star alphie newman did in the 90,s,from to much cytomel for to long of a time
you know too much

you must remain silent

Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Figo on December 27, 2008, 01:39:40 AM
Zane gave the appearance of being small, but put him next to Bannout, Platz, Dickerson, Mentzer (his contemporaries), and he had more width than them all, invariably he was also taller.
Whilst he appears to be a swimmer, go stand next to him at his prime, and you will notice the thickness in the pecs, and find your own legs to be dwarfed.
All the pics of Arnold & Zane in street clothes, Zane isnt exactly looking much smaller than Arnold.


(http://www.samirbannout.net/photos/backWzane.jpg)

(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/history/history_74mro3.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Mars on December 27, 2008, 01:40:33 AM
i like when they still look like normal people at least facially, just like arnold did. today they all look so swollen and unhealthy and shows its all drugs.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Soundness on December 27, 2008, 01:44:18 AM
i like when they still look like normal people at least facially, just like arnold did. today they all look so swollen and unhealthy and shows its all drugs.
It's the GH and insulin that is fucking everyone's looks up. Back then they took massive amounts of steroids, too, but the difference between then and now is GH and insulin. They make everything grow, not just the muscles you want to. It's internal muscles that contribute to thickness you don't want, making your gut huge, etc... The bones also grow, making your face look "mutant."  :-\
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Figo on December 27, 2008, 01:47:34 AM
franks on t-3 for the rest of his life,its true.he blew his thyroid out just like fitness star alphie newman did in the 90,s,from to much cytomel for to long of a time

Cute little blond thing? Thats why she disappeared from scene... Im referring to when she was young (cute) in 80's:

(http://hilda.thevalkyrie.com/~xtreme/pictures3/marco/alphie_newman_xtreme_curls.jpg)

90's not so cute:

(http://home9.swipnet.se/~w-91176/flex/flex01.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Mars on December 27, 2008, 01:49:16 AM
if you call that cute :-X
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: James Phoenix on December 27, 2008, 01:53:12 AM
lol, no, actually zane used quite a bit, hence his nickname 'the chemist'. he was a huge fan of the thyroid hormone though, and i think he may not have eaten enough to grow big while using it.

Maybe he was called "The Chemist" because he has a Bachelor of Science degree.


Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: kiwiol on December 27, 2008, 02:03:10 AM
Maybe he was called "The Chemist" because he has a Bachelor of Science degree.

Are you like, the flower princess inside a male's body? Epic pose in your avatar
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: WillGrant on December 27, 2008, 02:04:30 AM
Maybe he was called "the Chemist" because he had a Bachelor of Science degree.



He teached science I beleive? He was called "the chemist" on the bodybuilding scence because he always had a concuntion of pills in his gym bag , aas and normal supplements , he was a heavy supplement user just like gironda .
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on December 27, 2008, 02:08:04 AM

No....not always! BTW, brutal 6'2 140lbs and 24% BF.

The Beef does not think Rob is 24% body fat, but is very funny how someone who looks as if they have never touched a weight even posts in a thread like this.

Anyone have that pic of Rod when he showed up at the Tampa pro show with his necklace on ( I wonder where his wife was??? )

The Beef
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: WillGrant on December 27, 2008, 02:16:50 AM
Are you like, the flower princess inside a male's body? Epic pose in your avatar
James Phoenix was a front runner for Mr GB kiwi , see one of his submitted pics.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: kiwiol on December 27, 2008, 02:19:05 AM
James Phoenix was a front runner for Mr GB kiwi , see one of his submitted pics.

To quote Squadfather, impossible, that is too masculine and beastly compared to J Phoenix
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 27, 2008, 02:19:28 AM
He teached science I beleive? He was called "the chemist" on the bodybuilding scence because he always had a concuntion of pills in his gym bag , aas and normal supplements , he was a heavy supplement user just like gironda .
Wise words from an even wiser man.

Will Grant you are what I'd like to call the " clitoris of human intelligence"

Einstein ain't got shit on you buddy. I'll tell u that much
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Soundness on December 27, 2008, 02:20:00 AM
James Phoenix was a front runner for Mr GB kiwi , see one of his submitted pics.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254318.0;attach=295542;image)
That is a gorgeous picture. And James Phoenix is a brilliant individual.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Soundness on December 27, 2008, 02:20:51 AM
Wise words from an even wiser man.

Will Grant you are what I'd like to call the " clitoris of human intelligence"

Einstein ain't got shit on you buddy. I'll tell u that much
Are you back on the juice, Sev?
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: WillGrant on December 27, 2008, 02:21:31 AM
Wise words from an even wiser man.

Will Grant you are what I'd like to call the " clitoris of human intelligence"

Einstein ain't got shit on you buddy. I'll tell u that much
Im still in your shadow "big guy"
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: kiwiol on December 27, 2008, 02:21:51 AM
That is a gorgeous picture. And James Phoenix is a brilliant individual.


Are you saying you'd share a golden shower with J Phoenix, Soundness?
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: WillGrant on December 27, 2008, 02:22:51 AM
That is a gorgeous picture. And James Phoenix is a brilliant individual.

Yes Princess Phoenix is beautiful  :D
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Soundness on December 27, 2008, 02:26:11 AM
Are you saying you'd share a golden shower with J Phoenix, Soundness?
YEAH KIWIOL THAT'S MY BOY I KNEW YOU'D HOP ON THE PISS TRAIN YOU'RE SECRET SAFE BUDDY!  ;)
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: kiwiol on December 27, 2008, 02:28:56 AM
YEAH KIWIOL THAT'S MY BOY I KNEW YOU'D HOP ON THE PISS TRAIN YOU'RE SECRET SAFE BUDDY!  ;)

That's a train I fear as much as the Moosetrain, Soundness. But if it helps you live better, good for you
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Soundness on December 27, 2008, 02:30:34 AM
That's a train I fear as much as the Moosetrain, Soundness. But if it helps you live better, good for you
Thanks buddy, I appreciate that. You know how it is, you discover something good that can help everyone, you want to share it... Well, if you ever feel like upgrading life itself, or if you get sick or anything just remember it.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: WillGrant on December 27, 2008, 02:31:12 AM
That's a train I fear as much as the Moosetrain, Soundness. But if it helps you live better, good for you
Mooses Caboose has broken Loose  :D
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Soundness on December 27, 2008, 02:33:06 AM
Mooses Caboose has broken Loose  :D
Do you find it suspect that he quit posting? Shit must be serious...
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: WillGrant on December 27, 2008, 02:39:29 AM
Do you find it suspect that he quit posting? Shit must be serious...
I find it suspect he came back at all  ;D

Maybe all the shit that got chucked at him really effected him this time round..The Coach has signed out 3 or 4 times in meltdown mode and came back under diff names , maybe he may do the same once his health improves , that is if there was anything really wrong with him..

He knows what this place is like and how he left last time he shouldnt of expected to be treated any different..its strange how he melted last time and thretened to sue people ,but came back posting with a story of ill health..

The whole Mike Dusa story doesnt sit right with me , somthing isnt right.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Soundness on December 27, 2008, 02:45:03 AM
I find it suspect he came back at all  ;D

Maybe all the shit that got chucked at him really effected him this time round..The Coach has signed out 3 or 4 times in meltdown mode and came back under diff names , maybe he may do the same once his health improves , that is if there was anything really wrong with him..

He knows what this place is like and how he left last time he shouldnt of expected to be treated any different..its strange how he melted last time and thretened to sue people ,but came back posting with a story of ill health..

The whole Mike Dusa story doesnt sit right with me , somthing isnt right.
Hmmm.... I'm not familiar with all this. I just saw his arm and the fact that people hated him, then he claimed he sued someone. People think he's gay, too. Is Mike Dusa the guy he sued?
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: WillGrant on December 27, 2008, 02:49:30 AM
Hmmm.... I'm not familiar with all this. I just saw his arm and the fact that people hated him, then he claimed he sued someone. People think he's gay, too. Is Mike Dusa the guy he sued?
Mike Dusa = Moosejay..
Big mistake giving people the info he did , he was very blase about it , but Jimmy Thompson knew stuff (grotty secrets) from the era that moosejay came from and made the connections.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: grab an umbrella on December 27, 2008, 02:56:47 AM
He was called the chemist because he was a high school chem teacher, not because he used a lot
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Soundness on December 27, 2008, 02:56:55 AM
Mike Dusa = Moosejay..
Big mistake giving people the info he did , he was very blase about it , but Jimmy Thompson knew stuff (grotty secrets) from the era that moosejay came from and made the connections.
Moosejay (Mike Dusa) sued Jimmy Thompson?
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: WillGrant on December 27, 2008, 03:18:13 AM
He was called the chemist because he was a high school chem teacher, not because he used a lot
It was a play on words mate.. :)
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: WillGrant on December 27, 2008, 03:20:29 AM
Moosejay (Mike Dusa) sued Jimmy Thompson?
Jimmy was one of the ones he "thretened" I beleive..he also hurled abuse at Ron and other posters on his way out making threats..but you know how this place is , everyone just laughed thinking it was a great joke.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 27, 2008, 03:23:57 AM
Careful Will, don't choke gulping down all that haterade "man"
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: WillGrant on December 27, 2008, 03:26:13 AM
Careful Will, don't choke gulping down all that haterade "man"
Take time to smell the flowers Sebby..Did you have a nice xmas?
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 27, 2008, 03:31:05 AM
I wonder what's like to accumulate expirience working out with a top ifbb pro for so many years ....all that experience prolly builds lots of muscle. So much that it makes you shy . Like you won't post pics cause u don't want the other guys to get their feelinz hurt . Understandable ...
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: WillGrant on December 27, 2008, 03:36:01 AM
I wonder what's like to accumulate expirience working out with a top ifbb pro for so many years ....all that experience prolly builds lots of muscle. So much that it makes you shy . Like you won't post pics cause u don't want the other guys to get their feelinz hurt . Understandable ...
Where did I say I worked out with him for so many years  :)
Im far from shy , how would I hurt anyones feelings ? the only feelings that seem to be getting hurt are yours because I havent posted my pics.  :)

Man crush is it?
Pillowtalk was right and why was that thread deleted outing you swapping nude pics with him?  ;)
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: hipolito mejia on December 27, 2008, 10:03:17 AM
T.Pastel was better than Zane from every angle and better condition!
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: The ChemistV2 on December 27, 2008, 10:18:28 AM
franks on t-3 for the rest of his life,its true.he blew his thyroid out just like fitness star alphie newman did in the 90,s,from to much cytomel for to long of a time
Actually the only thyroid preparation Zane ever used was dessicated Armour thyroid and mostly before a show. He still cycles it, but if you see recent photos of him, he looks pretty good for a guy in his mid 60's.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: mass 04 on December 27, 2008, 10:35:28 AM
who is that geek?
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Matterhorn on December 27, 2008, 01:42:06 PM
Not shabby for 65.

Plus his interviews were always more intelligent than the usual "...will try to bring a complete package. Last year I came in at 235 pounds, this year close to 240 pounds..." stupido crap. A true ambassador of the sport.

Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: mass 04 on December 27, 2008, 02:17:20 PM
photoshop.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: tbombz on December 27, 2008, 02:29:23 PM
franks on t-3 for the rest of his life,its true.he blew his thyroid out just like fitness star alphie newman did in the 90,s,from to much cytomel for to long of a time
you dont have any proof of either. and i higly doubt both. the thyroid doesnt just stop working. zand when you using exogenous thyroid, th thyroid gland is at rest. so using tons of thyroid, wont 'blow out' your thyroid. lol. it just lets it slumber.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: flagadajones on December 27, 2008, 02:38:00 PM
id like to undesrtand how he got his triceps to look like this.

genetically gifted bodypart?
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: PJim on December 27, 2008, 06:17:40 PM
Zane from the side is very impressive because of the tricep shape. Watch the 1982 finals of the olympia and you can see that even next to Viator he holds his own because of his slim but unique shape.
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Kwon on December 27, 2008, 09:31:23 PM
Zane´s Triceps were always INZANE!

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254318.0;attach=295459;image
Title: Re: Frank Zane
Post by: Figo on December 28, 2008, 03:47:55 AM
Zane from the side is very impressive because of the tricep shape. Watch the 1982 finals of the olympia and you can see that even next to Viator he holds his own because of his slim but unique shape.

He appeared deceptively "small", but next to other bbers such as Viator he held his own.