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Title: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on January 12, 2018, 03:49:15 PM
Can we all agree on this now?  If you aren't on a lot of drugs, bulking is one of the worst things you can do.  If it's your first year of training you can be a little relaxed on what you eat as you will put on 10-15 pounds of muscle.  After that, there is no reason to eat more than a 5-10% calorie surplus.  Every time you go on youtube you see these fake natties talking about bulking and their "off season" diet.  What it's become is the lazy narcissistic mentality of the fitness community justifying over eating, complacency and food wasting.

What's your opinion and or experiences with bulking?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on January 12, 2018, 04:02:56 PM
One thing I'll never forget, there was this huge guy on the T-nation forums, "professor x" who was a serious advocate of bulking. I remember him saying something like, "everyone gets big by bulking, then turns around and talks shit about it later in their career."

I was guilty as charged, but now I'll just say, "who knows"? Would I have been better or worse had I never bulked? Obviously, I'll never be able to say from experience.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chess315 on January 12, 2018, 04:21:49 PM
I think you should bulk why not when you get down to it the most important thing in lifting is gaining weight
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Explorerspl on January 12, 2018, 04:43:20 PM
One thing I'll never forget, there was this huge guy on the T-nation forums, "professor x" who was a serious advocate of bulking. I remember him saying something like, "everyone gets big by bulking, then turns around and talks shit about it later in their career."

I was guilty as charged, but now I'll just say, "who knows"? Would I have been better or worse had I never bulked? Obviously, I'll never be able to say from experience.

He is correct, just like they all built their mass by lifting heavier and heavier over the years and then they say hat lifting heavy is pointless and just causes injury
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: sceagacros on January 12, 2018, 04:50:49 PM
Bulking might be a terrible idea if you are natural and a bodybuilder, I can think of many other weight lifting scenarios where this is not the case.
The easiest way to put some pounds on your bench is to put some pounds on your frame, irrespective of whether it's in vogue or not.

Eddie Hall claims that one of the main reasons he was able to eventually become WSM was that he made a point to weigh as much as the other taller, and naturally heavier competitors...

I think the best thing is bulking and then staying at the new weight for a year or so until it recomps to an acceptable degree then rinse and repeat, but then I'm not a bodybuilder so my goals and ideas of what is cool may be different than others here.

I personally made the mistake in the past of perma bulking without ever recomping at new weights and THAT doesn't work so well IMHO.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: SF1900 on January 12, 2018, 04:59:28 PM
I remember when I first started to work out, I wanted to look like Lee Priest so I bulked (and I thought I could do it natural, as I assumed Lee was natural  :D :D ). At my heaviest, I was like 205.

These days, I am down to like 170, feel lighter and much better. Its all about health. I see no point in "bulking up." For what?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: calfzilla on January 12, 2018, 05:26:31 PM
Is there a good rule of thumb such as stay within 30lbs of stage weight or stay under 15%?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: wes on January 12, 2018, 05:30:45 PM
240 or bust and billy gunz found out the hard way that bulking simply makes you a fatass.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 12, 2018, 06:25:36 PM
A friend goes to a hard core power lifting gym and put up videos on facebook. One fat slob after another in the videos. Who cares what you can lift if your gas tank is so small you get tired slow trotting a mile? Who cares about cheat bench shirt poundage if you look like a slob?

When I was younger I was incredibly lean from being on the track team in high school and college. Then bodybuilding took over my life and all I cared about was getting big. Drank those gain weight shakes for over a decade. I really think I damaged my health consuming all those calories. I got big and strong but also fat.

Even Arnold, Zane and Franco said bulking is a mistake. Make no mistake. Skinny looks better that fat. In clothes and with your shirt off. The only thing that might dupe people are perma bulkers that look great in a shirt until they hit the beach. Then the gig is up.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ESFitness on January 12, 2018, 07:06:44 PM
Can we all agree on this now?  If you aren't on a lot of drugs, bulking is one of the worst things you can do.  If it's your first year of training you can be a little relaxed on what you eat as you will put on 10-15 pounds of muscle.  After that, there is no reason to eat more than a 5-10% calorie surplus.  Every time you go on youtube you see these fake natties talking about bulking and their "off season" diet.  What it's become is the lazy narcissistic mentality of the fitness community justifying over eating, complacency and food wasting.

What's your opinion and or experiences with bulking?

10-15lbs ? I put on 30 my first year. And 30 my 2nd year. And 20 or so my 3rd yr.

Eat enough to grow. Simple as that.

If you're not using PEDs, you're not really "bodybuilding"... Not unless you have some sort of elite genetics. 90% of "bodybuilders" , without steroids, can at best hope to achieve a Men's Health physique.

Without steroids, like most people here, you're just weightlifters.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on January 12, 2018, 07:20:32 PM
10-15lbs ? I put on 30 my first year. And 30 my 2nd year. And 20 or so my 3rd yr.

Eat enough to grow. Simple as that.

If you're not using PEDs, you're not really "bodybuilding"... Not unless you have some sort of elite genetics. 90% of "bodybuilders" , without steroids, can at best hope to achieve a Men's Health physique.

Without steroids, like most people here, you're just weightlifters.
80 pounds in 3 years??  How much of that was muscle though?  Probably no more than 25 pounds or so.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2018, 07:21:33 PM
Can we all agree on this now?  If you aren't on a lot of drugs, bulking is one of the worst things you can do.  If it's your first year of training you can be a little relaxed on what you eat as you will put on 10-15 pounds of muscle.  After that, there is no reason to eat more than a 5-10% calorie surplus.  Every time you go on youtube you see these fake natties talking about bulking and their "off season" diet.  What it's become is the lazy narcissistic mentality of the fitness community justifying over eating, complacency and food wasting.

What's your opinion and or experiences with bulking?

So is staying too lean
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on January 12, 2018, 07:27:36 PM
So is staying too lean
I agree.  What do you think we should all be aiming for body fat wise?  I feel like somewhere around 12% will give us the best possible scenario in terms of look, health and performance.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: SF1900 on January 12, 2018, 07:30:31 PM
I agree.  What do you think we should all be aiming for body fat wise?  I feel like somewhere around 12% will give us the best possible scenario in terms of look, health and performance.

You should aim to look like this year around

(http://i50.tinypic.com/205zdx4.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on January 12, 2018, 07:32:23 PM
I remember when I first started to work out, I wanted to look like Lee Priest so I bulked (and I thought I could do it natural, as I assumed Lee was natural  :D :D ). At my heaviest, I was like 205.

These days, I am down to like 170, feel lighter and much better. Its all about health. I see no point in "bulking up." For what?
I had a similar path.  I went up to about 200 give or take and was stronger, but didn't feel as good as I do at 180. I have always thought that maybe a crazy bulk might be a good idea when you first start lifting at age 18 or so.  Just bulking to like 230 over a couple years and putting on the maximum possible amount of muscle.  Then cutting very slowly down to the desired weight and trying to keep as much as possible.  Then never bulking again.  Probably not a good idea but I've always wondered since I never tried that when I was younger.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on January 12, 2018, 07:33:57 PM
You should aim to look like this year around

(http://i50.tinypic.com/205zdx4.gif)
I wonder what Goodrum's body fat actually was at it's lowest.  A smooth watery Billy Guns came into the show and made him look fat.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2018, 07:37:02 PM
I agree.  What do you think we should all be aiming for body fat wise?  I feel like somewhere around 12% will give us the best possible scenario in terms of look, health and performance.

Yep, I agree.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: SF1900 on January 12, 2018, 07:42:49 PM
I had a similar path.  I went up to about 200 give or take and was stronger, but didn't feel as good as I do at 180. I have always thought that maybe a crazy bulk might be a good idea when you first start lifting at age 18 or so.  Just bulking to like 230 over a couple years and putting on the maximum possible amount of muscle.  Then cutting very slowly down to the desired weight and trying to keep as much as possible.  Then never bulking again.  Probably not a good idea but I've always wondered since I never tried that when I was younger.

Yeah, I surmise when you're younger you can get away with it. As you get older, not so much.

I still want to slim down a little more, hoping not to sacrifice too much muscle.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tres_taco_combo on January 12, 2018, 07:47:19 PM
its ok to bulk but most never CUT after their bulk

when i mean cut, cut as if you are getting into single digit BF

also it is a sign of the times. being big is not "in" like the 1980s or 1990s
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Slapper on January 12, 2018, 07:57:39 PM
Can we all agree on this now?  If you aren't on a lot of drugs, bulking is one of the worst things you can do.  If it's your first year of training you can be a little relaxed on what you eat as you will put on 10-15 pounds of muscle.  After that, there is no reason to eat more than a 5-10% calorie surplus.  Every time you go on youtube you see these fake natties talking about bulking and their "off season" diet.  What it's become is the lazy narcissistic mentality of the fitness community justifying over eating, complacency and food wasting.

What's your opinion and or experiences with bulking?

Bulking up is a waste of fucking time. The three tenets of bodybuilding are 1) exercising right, 2) eating right and 3) being able to see your muscles react to the stress.

Most of the folks I know that gave up getting in shape are the ones walking around at 40%+ body-fat. Hence not being able to see their muscles, or their pecker for that matter.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 12, 2018, 08:02:13 PM
 Bulking without drugs is essentially getting fat
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Mobil on January 12, 2018, 08:49:45 PM
i explain my point of view from being a past "perma Bulker" for several years when i was younger... you lose your looks because your face gets fat(bloated) and you dont get as much pussy...if your married then i guess its ok...somewhat(they get jelly when you look good)...when you get cut and have the lean face...womens comes crawlings....even if you are ugly you still look more attractive to women having a chisled face...just my experience :)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tres_taco_combo on January 12, 2018, 08:53:48 PM
i explain my point of view from being a past "perma Bulker" for several years when i was younger... you lose your looks because your face gets fat(bloated) and you dont get as much pussy...if your married then i guess its ok...somewhat(they get jelly when you look good)...when you get cut and have the lean face...womens comes crawlings....even if you are ugly you still look more attractive to women

lean face is the top of the house for a male
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Mobil on January 12, 2018, 08:58:05 PM
lean face is the top of the house for a male

its night and day...from my personal experience
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chaos on January 12, 2018, 08:59:12 PM
Yeah, I surmise when you're younger you can get away with it. As you get older, not so much.

I still want to slim down a little more, hoping not to sacrifice too much muscle.
Don't eat so much rice then, chingaling.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tom joad on January 12, 2018, 10:40:25 PM
I've never gone full-fledged bulk mode.  Can't remember a time when my abs weren't at least somewhat visible.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on January 12, 2018, 10:42:32 PM
Everything in life is a matter of degrees. There's smoothing out and then there's Shizzo level blubber.
But, if you want your muscles to get bigger you have to get
bigger and that's never going to happen unless you are on a caloric surplus. There's no other way
around it. Training by itself is not going to do it. Of course, if you are in bad shape you can play around
with body composition. Lose fat while gaining some muscle while overall body weight remains the same.
But if you are a seasoned bber looking to advance it's not going to happen if you stay at 6%. I guess if there were some way to exactly determine the precise amount of protein, carbs and fats that will allow you to optimize muscle growth without adding an ounce of fat that would be ideal. But in the real world it puts the odds more in your favor to have an overabundance of nutrients at your disposal. I mean, it's hard enough as it is for a season trainee to put on additional muscle even under ideal conditions.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ESFitness on January 12, 2018, 11:06:25 PM
"Bulking" without drugs and you'll end up like Shizzo, SF1900, or black Vince.

In fact, most drug using bodybuilders with a number of years experience who actually look like bodybuilders never even use the term "bulk".

That should tell you something.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Weedlejuice on January 13, 2018, 02:51:28 AM
Can we all agree on this now?  If you aren't on a lot of drugs, bulking is one of the worst things you can do.  If it's your first year of training you can be a little relaxed on what you eat as you will put on 10-15 pounds of muscle.  After that, there is no reason to eat more than a 5-10% calorie surplus.  Every time you go on youtube you see these fake natties talking about bulking and their "off season" diet.  What it's become is the lazy narcissistic mentality of the fitness community justifying over eating, complacency and food wasting.

What's your opinion and or experiences with bulking?

Without drugs true, with? I think its pretty much mandatory
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: lilhawk1 on January 13, 2018, 03:56:12 AM
Everyone should diet hard at least once a year.  Contest type diet, get shredded.  You'd be surprised how much better you'd look.  Most guys won't do this though because the harsh reality is they will be devastated to realize they only weigh 175 when they're actually in shape.  If that.  If you do this it is nearly impossible to get fat no matter what you eat when you're not dieting. 
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Mr Anabolic on January 13, 2018, 06:18:44 AM
For natties, you can get away with eating more calories when you are in your 20's.  I routinely ate 4000 a day, while training hard 6 days a week.  I gained lots of muscle and the fat gain was minimal.  No cardio at all. 

However, you cannot do this as you age.  Your metabolism slows down, hormone levels drop and your body is not as efficient at utilizing those extra calories.  You get fat much easier.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tres_taco_combo on January 13, 2018, 07:43:20 AM
Everyone should diet hard at least once a year.  Contest type diet, get shredded.  You'd be surprised how much better you'd look.  Most guys won't do this though because the harsh reality is they will be devastated to realize they only weigh 175 when they're actually in shape.  If that.  If you do this it is nearly impossible to get fat no matter what you eat when you're not dieting. 

I AGREE

1x a year do a hard core 8-12 week diet. even if you drop down to 175lbs to important to cut up

your summer pool time will be worth it
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on January 13, 2018, 08:57:12 AM
10-15lbs ? I put on 30 my first year. And 30 my 2nd year. And 20 or so my 3rd yr.

Eat enough to grow. Simple as that.

If you're not using PEDs, you're not really "bodybuilding"... Not unless you have some sort of elite genetics. 90% of "bodybuilders" , without steroids, can at best hope to achieve a Men's Health physique.

Without steroids, like most people here, you're just weightlifters.
So you started out at 70lbs?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ESFitness on January 13, 2018, 12:02:13 PM
So you started out at 70lbs?

Started at 90lbs
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: VladimirVersic on January 13, 2018, 12:07:17 PM
Usually i have a certain weight in both cutting and lets say offseason or the bulk.
Offseason im max 7kg heavier. And it is fat and water of course.  :)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Sexybeast777 on January 13, 2018, 12:12:25 PM
the problem with bulking is that it can make you gain a ton of fat. after gaining 50 lbs, chances are 10 lbs are muscle, 8 lbs is fecal matter, 12 lbs is water retention and 20 lbs are fat. Later you learn that burning the fat off is not that easy, while losing muscle is very easy
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tres_taco_combo on January 13, 2018, 01:06:04 PM
plus after a serious bulk your proportions get out of whack too.

loose those lines/enter the world of endomorph terrority
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chokeslam on January 13, 2018, 05:54:49 PM
I'm turning 32 soon and I've been lifting for just a decade. But thankfully I only spent a bit more than half that time permabulking before I started questioning the anonymous idiots on the internet.

I think you just shouldn't worry about staying super ripped while you put on muscle. Don't "bulk", but don't worry about abs. That should give you enough of a buffer to make great gains without holding yourself back.

Bulking does absolutely nothing. Carrying sheaths of fat and having a sweaty ass all the time doesn't do anything whatsoever. Just look in the mirror and be honest with yourself. Never worry about the shit that other people do or say.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Mobil on January 13, 2018, 06:26:07 PM
Everything in life is a matter of degrees. There's smoothing out and then there's Shizzo level blubber.
But, if you want your muscles to get bigger you have to get
bigger and that's never going to happen unless you are on a caloric surplus. There's no other way
around it. Training by itself is not going to do it. Of course, if you are in bad shape you can play around
with body composition. Lose fat while gaining some muscle while overall body weight remains the same.
But if you are a seasoned bber looking to advance it's not going to happen if you stay at 6%. I guess if there were some way to exactly determine the precise amount of protein, carbs and fats that will allow you to optimize muscle growth without adding an ounce of fat that would be ideal. But in the real world it puts the odds more in your favor to have an overabundance of nutrients at your disposal. I mean, it's hard enough as it is for a season trainee to put on additional muscle even under ideal conditions.

i agree.... you have to bulk to gain muscle... then cut... if you eat healthy trying to gain size...its gonna take a while
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 13, 2018, 07:20:17 PM
One thing I'll never forget, there was this huge guy on the T-nation forums, "professor x" who was a serious advocate of bulking. I remember him saying something like, "everyone gets big by bulking, then turns around and talks shit about it later in their career."

I was guilty as charged, but now I'll just say, "who knows"? Would I have been better or worse had I never bulked? Obviously, I'll never be able to say from experience.

Lmao I remember that guy.  He would always post selectively cropped photos displaying one bodypart at a time, like a forearm or a shoulder.  Made it seem like he was a muscular guy with a good physique, and he had a sizable following on the site too. 

Then T-nation brought him into their facility to be trained by that one guy Christian Thibadouae (sp?) and posted the video.  The jig was up ..  He looked terrible, like a furniture mover.  No muscle definition to be seen.  Not only that but he was in pretty bad shape too, struggling with lunges and breathing heavy in between sets. 

It was a pumpster-esque reveal, to say the leastv ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ESFitness on January 13, 2018, 09:57:40 PM
I'm turning 32 soon and I've been lifting for just a decade. But thankfully I only spent a bit more than half that time permabulking before I started questioning the anonymous idiots on the internet.

I think you just shouldn't worry about staying super ripped while you put on muscle. Don't "bulk", but don't worry about abs. That should give you enough of a buffer to make great gains without holding yourself back.

Bulking does absolutely nothing. Carrying sheaths of fat and having a sweaty ass all the time doesn't do anything whatsoever. Just look in the mirror and be honest with yourself. Never worry about the shit that other people do or say.

If you're on the proper amount of drugs you should have abs year 'round.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Mobil on January 13, 2018, 10:00:46 PM
If you're on the proper amount of drugs you should have abs year 'round.

genes over power drugs...so if you have to take alot of drugs to be lean and cut....its your genes....slap your momma and dadda
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tom joad on January 13, 2018, 11:10:49 PM
for a natural (at least), a clean bulk or lean bulk is the way to go.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ESFitness on January 13, 2018, 11:23:05 PM
for a natural (at least), a clean bulk or lean bulk is the way to go.

By "clean bulk" you mean "just making progress"?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tom joad on January 13, 2018, 11:29:39 PM
By "clean bulk" you mean "just making progress"?

this guy can explain it ...

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd2hp3QgwC9/
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ESFitness on January 13, 2018, 11:33:18 PM
genes over power drugs...so if you have to take alot of drugs to be lean and cut....its your genes....slap your momma and dadda

Which is why I stated "if you're on the proper amount of drugs you should have abs year round", regardless of this "bulking" nonsense.

As a bodybuilder, IMO, your goal should be one of two things A) adding muscle, or B) retaining muscle. There is no "getting fat" option, which is what a lot of these people using the "bulking" term are doing.

This Bodybuilding.com Generation seem to not understand that, as they're the ones who coined the phrase "dirty bulk". That sounds a lot like "non consensual rape".
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: sceagacros on January 14, 2018, 03:56:39 AM
Lmao I remember that guy.  He would always post selectively cropped photos displaying one bodypart at a time, like a forearm or a shoulder.  Made it seem like he was a muscular guy with a good physique, and he had a sizable following on the site too.  

Then T-nation brought him into their facility to be trained by that one guy Christian Thibadouae (sp?) and posted the video.  The jig was up ..  He looked terrible, like a furniture mover.  No muscle definition to be seen.  Not only that but he was in pretty bad shape too, struggling with lunges and breathing heavy in between sets.  

It was a pumpster-esque reveal, to say the leastv ;D
Proffessor X turned out to be nothing but a bloated, fat tub of lard- it was epic.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Taffin on January 14, 2018, 04:14:38 AM
My 'knowledge' (such as it is) is based on 25 year old books like the Underground Steroid Handbook, so it's probably worthless nowadays.  That said, as a meso/endo my best success in my 20's was 4 years of the suggested (at the time) bulking and cutting, with Sustanon, Tamoxifen and 'eat-whatever' for 12 to 16 weeks, followed by a period off then the same 12 to 16 of Primo and Parabolan along with very low carbs to the point of starvation.  I suppose this became the keto diet because I didn't count the calories as such, just dropped white carbs....

So bulking worked for me, but you have to follow it like people say with getting back into shape each year otherwise.....

(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/nintchdbpict000246947339.jpg?w=631)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 14, 2018, 11:18:52 AM
Currently bulking for the first time, I mean a true bulk, zero cardio, lifting 2 bodyparts per day - morning/evening sessions, trying for 7-8 meals a day.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tres_taco_combo on January 14, 2018, 11:21:00 AM
Currently bulking for the first time, I mean a true bulk, zero cardio, lifting 2 bodyparts per day - morning/evening sessions, trying for 7-8 meals a day.



good for you, you will have the most epic pumps ever.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 14, 2018, 11:24:20 AM
good for you, you will have the most epic pumps ever.


Going good thus far, the eating is the hardest thing dude.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 14, 2018, 12:24:36 PM
Currently bulking for the first time, I mean a true bulk, zero cardio, lifting 2 bodyparts per day - morning/evening sessions, trying for 7-8 meals a day.


Looking big, what's your bulking diet look like?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 14, 2018, 02:07:57 PM
Looking big, what's your bulking diet look like?
It's very similar to Dave Palumbo's offseason meal plan, I eat 2 beef meals, 1 salmon meal, 2 egg meals, 1 chicken meal, and a post workout shake. I eat sweet potato with every meal except post workout and last meal of the day, post workout I just do the shake with a few glucose tabs. Last meal of the day I eat the majority of my fats.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tom joad on January 14, 2018, 02:48:03 PM
It's very similar to Dave Palumbo's offseason meal plan, I eat 2 beef meals, 1 salmon meal, 2 egg meals, 1 chicken meal, and a post workout shake. I eat sweet potato with every meal except post workout and last meal of the day, post workout I just do the shake with a few glucose tabs. Last meal of the day I eat the majority of my fats.

other than the shakes and tabs, is all the food in these meals "free" for you on the ship?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on January 14, 2018, 04:04:50 PM
It's very similar to Dave Palumbo's offseason meal plan, I eat 2 beef meals, 1 salmon meal, 2 egg meals, 1 chicken meal, and a post workout shake. I eat sweet potato with every meal except post workout and last meal of the day, post workout I just do the shake with a few glucose tabs. Last meal of the day I eat the majority of my fats.

you already have everything going for you, why add heart attack to the list ???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Zillotch on January 14, 2018, 04:09:28 PM
genetically stunted twinks and tards... feel the need to 'bulk'.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 14, 2018, 04:21:53 PM
other than the shakes and tabs, is all the food in these meals "free" for you on the ship?
All food is free for the crew on the ship, right now I'm on vacation, which is why I'm free to train twice a day, on the ship the don't have sweet potato for the crew, sometimes they have baked or mashed, but they always have rice, white and brown, so on the ship I eat rice as my staple carb, I also have access to salmon and steak all the time due to having friends that are chefs in the main dinning galley, which have to make mass quantities of food to provide to our 3000 passengers, theres always a bunch left over and they'll leave a few for me, because again they aren't feeding the crew salmon or steak.

you already have everything going for you, why add heart attack to the list ???
My heart is in excellent shape, I just went in for a complete work up, I get all blood work done every vacation, just to make sure all is well, this time I asked my GP to make a referral to see a cardiologist, just because I wanted to make sure all is OK there, I got everything done, EKG, Ectocardiogram, 24 hour heart monitor, a bunch of stuff done, everything is excellent there, I do have a slightly enlarged heart but the doc said that's completely normal for anyone who does athletics and trains intensely.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tres_taco_combo on January 14, 2018, 07:12:34 PM
It's very similar to Dave Palumbo's offseason meal plan, I eat 2 beef meals, 1 salmon meal, 2 egg meals, 1 chicken meal, and a post workout shake. I eat sweet potato with every meal except post workout and last meal of the day, post workout I just do the shake with a few glucose tabs. Last meal of the day I eat the majority of my fats.

his pre-contest prep meal is as good as it gets too

i love dave for his diet advice
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tres_taco_combo on January 14, 2018, 07:14:41 PM
bulking is easy, just eat

make a super oatmeal for quick calories
1/2 cup oats
1 tablespoon flax
1 tableseed black chia
1 tablespooin quinoa
1 cup of frozen berries
natural honey 

carb city 2x a day
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 14, 2018, 07:28:06 PM
his pre-contest prep meal is as good as it gets too

i love dave for his diet advice

Dave is the shit, his Ask Dave segments are great!

bulking is easy, just eat

make a super oatmeal for quick calories
1/2 cup oats
1 tablespoon flax
1 tableseed black chia
1 tablespooin quinoa
1 cup of frozen berries
natural honey 

carb city 2x a day
Its getting hard for me dude, I'm taking down a lot of food. I stopped eating oats all together, I had oats for breakfast for the last 20 years, recently stopped, and truthfully I feel amazing. I cut out all gluten, just been sticking with rice and potatoes and its very weird put I don't have any bloat at all, these foods are just processing nicely. And if you watch Dave he doesn't recommend Chia or flax, they dont convert well, the DHA and EPA don't get processed well, thats why he recommends getting omega3's from animal and fish sources.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tres_taco_combo on January 14, 2018, 07:35:53 PM
Dave is the shit, his Ask Dave segments are great!
Its getting hard for me dude, I'm taking down a lot of food. I stopped eating oats all together, I had oats for breakfast for the last 20 years, recently stopped, and truthfully I feel amazing. I cut out all gluten, just been sticking with rice and potatoes and its very weird put I don't have any bloat at all, these foods are just processing nicely. And if you watch Dave he doesn't recommend Chia or flax, they dont convert well, the DHA and EPA don't get processed well, thats why he recommends getting omega3's from animal and fish sources.

if nothing is broke dont change it. keep on riding on what you are doing. your body is efficient so it will do well. just keep on bulking like you are doing.

yes his keto diet is on point - answered personal emails too - home boy is a help


good luck
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on January 14, 2018, 07:40:24 PM
Started at 90lbs
Fair play man, at 17 when I knew what I wasn't gonna make it as a professional soccer player I started lifting five days a week, started at 154lbs
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 14, 2018, 07:42:32 PM
if nothing is broke dont change it. keep on riding on what you are doing. your body is efficient so it will do well. just keep on bulking like you are doing.

yes his keto diet is on point - answered personal emails too - home boy is a help


good luck
Thanks, yeah my digestion is on point with these two carb sources, when you're eating so much food things have to digest easily, also trying to get majority of my meat ground up - turkey, chicken, beef, bison- all seem to digest really well when ground up. And eggs are very light on the stomach as well. So I'm gonna try to ride this out and see where it takes me.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on January 14, 2018, 08:07:48 PM
Everyone should diet hard at least once a year.  Contest type diet, get shredded.  You'd be surprised how much better you'd look.  Most guys won't do this though because the harsh reality is they will be devastated to realize they only weigh 175 when they're actually in shape.  If that.  If you do this it is nearly impossible to get fat no matter what you eat when you're not dieting. 
I have thought about this option before and I agree here.  I've never been stage ready lean, but I've been pretty lean before and it was always much easier to stay lean that way.  When you don't have much fat, you can sort of see it coming if you slip on your diet for a few weeks and reel it in before things get out of control.  I don't care about numbers on a scale or on a bar, I just care about looking good and feeling good.  If I have to sacrifice 20-30 pounds on bench press to look a bit leaner, that's a-ok with me.  I'd say just staying lean is the way to go.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on January 14, 2018, 08:11:00 PM
I have thought about this option before and I agree here.  I've never been stage ready lean, but I've been pretty lean before and it was always much easier to stay lean that way.  When you don't have much fat, you can sort of see it coming if you slip on your diet for a few weeks and reel it in before things get out of control.  I don't care about numbers on a scale or on a bar, I just care about looking good and feeling good.  If I have to sacrifice 20-30 pounds on bench press to look a bit leaner, that's a-ok with me.  I'd say just staying lean is the way to go.
Only trouble is your entire wardrobe doesn't fit when you diet so hard you lose 30+lbs  :'(
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 15, 2018, 11:42:38 AM
It's very similar to Dave Palumbo's offseason meal plan, I eat 2 beef meals, 1 salmon meal, 2 egg meals, 1 chicken meal, and a post workout shake. I eat sweet potato with every meal except post workout and last meal of the day, post workout I just do the shake with a few glucose tabs. Last meal of the day I eat the majority of my fats.
Thanks for the reply, can I ask why the glucose tablets?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ESFitness on January 15, 2018, 12:22:16 PM
Fair play man, at 17 when I knew what I wasn't gonna make it as a professional soccer player I started lifting five days a week, started at 154lbs

Took me about 2yrs to get to 150lbs.
 Was about 120 after a year or training and 150 by the 2nd year. 170 after year 3 at which point began 1st cycle (1amp of Sten 75 cyp and 25prop/ wk for 12 wks for 12wks. 12-14wks off then 200mg Schein cup/wk for 10wks plus an extra 5wks of 400mg/wk) and went to 215. After that anywhere from 215-245 at various times till now depending in food
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on January 15, 2018, 02:44:01 PM
My heart is in excellent shape, I just went in for a complete work up, I get all blood work done every vacation, just to make sure all is well, this time I asked my GP to make a referral to see a cardiologist, just because I wanted to make sure all is OK there, I got everything done, EKG, Ectocardiogram, 24 hour heart monitor, a bunch of stuff done, everything is excellent there, I do have a slightly enlarged heart but the doc said that's completely normal for anyone who does athletics and trains intensely.

Can't wait for your checkup post bulk :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: calfzilla on January 15, 2018, 03:21:07 PM
Can't wait for your checkup post bulk :D

Why would a natural need such an exhaustive check up?  :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 15, 2018, 04:09:31 PM
Can't wait for your checkup post bulk :D
We'll just have to see I guess.


Why would a natural need such an exhaustive check up?  :D
Every human should at the very least get a complete check up once a year. I eat tons of meat 6-7 meals a day for almost 20 years, I put body through a lot of damage via weightraining, I work a job that is very demanding 10-12 hours a day no days off for 6 months straight, I engage in a lot of sexual activity, I travel a lot, I work in an environment loaded with germs and bacteria (3000 people coming a going off my ship every week), I'm highly interested in diet, nutrition, human performance, optimizing my own potential...listing just these things, why wouldn't I want to get a complete check up every single time I leave that ship for vacation. I like to know whats going on in my body, If I'm lacking certain nutrients, have and deficiencies, illnesses, Std's...you name it. So as I enter this vacation I'm about to turn 37, so why not check and make sure my heart is ok, I have medical insurance so why not take advantage of that.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: calfzilla on January 15, 2018, 04:47:48 PM
^ I was just trolling but thanks for the honest and complete answer.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 16, 2018, 06:24:31 AM
^ I was just trolling but thanks for the honest and complete answer.
Its all good bro, but truthfully most humans take care of their cars more than they take care of their own bodies, they bring their cars for oil change every 3,000 miles, tune ups every 10,000 miles or so, and just general every day maintanance, yet don't have blood work done for years or go see a GP for a routine check up in years, it makes no sense.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: residue on January 16, 2018, 07:10:47 AM
I agree.  What do you think we should all be aiming for body fat wise?  I feel like somewhere around 12% will give us the best possible scenario in terms of look, health and performance.
12-15 is supposedly the sweet spot
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 16, 2018, 07:19:03 AM
Its a terrible idea if you're a natural BB over age of 30 .


But its inevitable


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 16, 2018, 08:19:13 AM
bulking = eating 300-500 caloriers more than you usually do.

which translates to a cheeseburger or bigmac, hard to see how that can be considered hard
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 16, 2018, 08:21:52 AM
Snow and cold temps, perfect weather for bulking!

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 16, 2018, 08:23:55 AM
thats your idea of a vacation
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 16, 2018, 09:53:33 AM
go4it are you making any changes to your training during this bulking phase? as far as, i dont know, sets, reps, exercise selection...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 16, 2018, 10:49:23 AM
go4it are you making any changes to your training during this bulking phase? as far as, i dont know, sets, reps, exercise selection...

I'm training 2 bodyparts per day big part in the morning small at night, so like yesterday I did chest, then I'll go back in the evening and do triceps,  the night work out is like 30 min tops, in and out. No cardio at all.
thats your idea of a vacation
;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Earl1972 on January 16, 2018, 01:16:44 PM
Snow and cold temps, perfect weather for bulking!



are you back in chicago?

do you still want to retire in a few years and move to thailand?

E
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 16, 2018, 02:25:52 PM
i think he can do better than thailand  ???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 16, 2018, 03:08:38 PM
are you back in chicago?

do you still want to retire in a few years and move to thailand?

E
Yeah, it's pretty cold out here at the moment. And yes thats the plan, I have the money to do it now, but I'm still thoroughly enjoying my job and life in general, so 4-5 years most likely.

i think he can do better than thailand  ???
Dude I love Thailand, my dream has always been to live on a beach, to do this in America costs millions, in Thailand you need anywhere from 50-70 grand for a beach front condo in a resort style condominium. It's a great country, tons of amazing beaches, nice gyms, great food, awesome nightclubs and bars, lots of girls. You gotta find ways to achieve your dreams in life dude!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: spiro on January 16, 2018, 03:19:28 PM
Snow and cold temps, perfect weather for bulking!



You an 18 year old girl or something?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 16, 2018, 04:23:26 PM
Yeah, it's pretty cold out here at the moment. And yes thats the plan, I have the money to do it now, but I'm still thoroughly enjoying my job and life in general, so 4-5 years most likely.
Dude I love Thailand, my dream has always been to live on a beach, to do this in America costs millions, in Thailand you need anywhere from 50-70 grand for a beach front condo in a resort style condominium. It's a great country, tons of amazing beaches, nice gyms, great food, awesome nightclubs and bars, lots of girls. You gotta find ways to achieve your dreams in life dude!

maybe you can hook up with dr huge ?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 16, 2018, 05:25:51 PM
You an 18 year old girl or something?
;D

maybe you can hook up with dr huge ?
He's always out there seems to enjoy it, my friend who lives there (he convinced me to go there the first time) told me nobody never visits Thailand just once, if you go you'll understand and realize what a great place it is.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Gov on January 16, 2018, 07:47:51 PM
Yeah, it's pretty cold out here at the moment. And yes thats the plan, I have the money to do it now, but I'm still thoroughly enjoying my job and life in general, so 4-5 years most likely.
Dude I love Thailand, my dream has always been to live on a beach, to do this in America costs millions, in Thailand you need anywhere from 50-70 grand for a beach front condo in a resort style condominium. It's a great country, tons of amazing beaches, nice gyms, great food, awesome nightclubs and bars, lots of girls. You gotta find ways to achieve your dreams in life dude!

how are the newhalfs ?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 17, 2018, 06:39:31 AM
how are the newhalfs ?
Never heard this words before so I had to google it, I guess you are talking about ladyboys. If you are inquiring I wouldn't know, not my thing dude. But it is very easy to get real women there, thats for sure.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Devon97 on January 17, 2018, 07:48:53 AM
I think you should bulk why not when you get down to it the most important thing in lifting is gaining weight building muscle

fixed
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on January 17, 2018, 08:00:42 AM
Dude I love Thailand, my dream has always been to live on a beach, to do this in America costs millions, in Thailand you need anywhere from 50-70 grand for a beach front condo in a resort style condominium. It's a great country, tons of amazing beaches, nice gyms, great food, awesome nightclubs and bars, lots of girls. You gotta find ways to achieve your dreams in life dude!

Not again; Thailand?! Go4It, you are a good guy, a very good guy, but why do you forge your body in the fire of your will, only to lay it down on a soft pillow of shit? Dare to dream higher!

Strive, struggle, and succeed, just like those others who dared to dream a dream worth living -- e.g., like your father and grandfather, respectively, Papa Dong and Nonno Dong, both of whom followed the wise words of their noble Roman forebears– Ignis aurum probat, miseria fortes uimos! I believe you can do it! Don't be a Junior Pee Pee, Go4It, measure up to your heritage, conquer the arduous, live among the smart and strong, avoid the land of Hwuangs in thongs; instead, add another pendulous link to your long, unbroken chain of predecessor dongs.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 17, 2018, 08:11:09 AM
Not again; Thailand?! Go4It, you are a good guy, a very good guy, but why do you forge your body in the fire of your will, only to lay it down on a soft pillow of shit? Dare to dream higher!

Strive, struggle, and succeed, just like those others who dared to dream a dream worth living -- e.g., like your father and grandfather, respectively, Papa Dong and Nonno Dong, both of whom followed the wise words of their noble Roman forebears– Ignis aurum probat, miseria fortes uimos! I believe you can do it! Don't be a Junior Pee Pee, Go4It, measure up to your heritage, conquer the arduous, live among the smart and strong, avoid the land of Hwuangs in thongs; instead, add another pendulous link to your long, unbroken chain of predecessor dongs.


Poetry.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on January 17, 2018, 10:02:45 AM
Not again; Thailand?! Go4It, you are a good guy, a very good guy, but why do you forge your body in the fire of your will, only to lay it down on a soft pillow of shit? Dare to dream higher!

Strive, struggle, and succeed, just like those others who dared to dream a dream worth living -- e.g., like your father and grandfather, respectively, Papa Dong and Nonno Dong, both of whom followed the wise words of their noble Roman forebears– Ignis aurum probat, miseria fortes uimos! I believe you can do it! Don't be a Junior Pee Pee, Go4It, measure up to your heritage, conquer the arduous, live among the smart and strong, avoid the land of Hwuangs in thongs; instead, add another pendulous link to your long, unbroken chain of predecessor dongs.


Expect an all-too-blithe deflection and a few furtive long island ice teas to slip into the evening's receipts.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 17, 2018, 12:17:40 PM
Not again; Thailand?! Go4It, you are a good guy, a very good guy, but why do you forge your body in the fire of your will, only to lay it down on a soft pillow of shit? Dare to dream higher!

Strive, struggle, and succeed, just like those others who dared to dream a dream worth living -- e.g., like your father and grandfather, respectively, Papa Dong and Nonno Dong, both of whom followed the wise words of their noble Roman forebears– Ignis aurum probat, miseria fortes uimos! I believe you can do it! Don't be a Junior Pee Pee, Go4It, measure up to your heritage, conquer the arduous, live among the smart and strong, avoid the land of Hwuangs in thongs; instead, add another pendulous link to your long, unbroken chain of predecessor dongs.

Dude Thailand's amazing where else in the world can you stay in an amazing condo, with a roof top pool and fitness center for $22 a day! Life is short bro's thats why you gotta Go 4 It!

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 17, 2018, 12:44:17 PM
Could never figure out how anyone could be into asain chicks ???

Flat ass galore, BRUTAL
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on January 17, 2018, 12:48:08 PM
Dude Thailand's amazing where else in the world can you stay in an amazing condo, with a roof top pool and fitness center for $22 a day! Life is short bro's thats why you gotta Go 4 It!


YAWN ::)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 17, 2018, 12:53:11 PM
ill skip thailand.

look at mike o hearn he got great weather!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 17, 2018, 01:16:27 PM
Could never figure out how anyone could be into asain chicks ???

Flat ass galore, BRUTAL
Nah, you can find them with some decent asses, especially now with Instagram, all these chicks are squating like crazy, plus in Thailand they are eating our American food like McDonalds, DunkinDougnuts, PizzaHut, so they are beginning to put on weight and more and more you're seeing chicks with some ass gains.
ill skip thailand.

look at mike o hearn he got great weather!
Lol, I never compare myself to others bro, I just try to be the best me I can be.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 17, 2018, 01:26:01 PM
Nah, you can find them with some decent asses, especially now with Instagram, all these chicks are squating like crazy, plus in Thailand they are eating our American food like McDonalds, DunkinDougnuts, PizzaHut, so they are beginning to put on weight and more and more you're seeing chicks with some ass gains. Lol, I never compare myself to others bro, I just try to be the best me I can be.

Post up some pics of this, honestly I don't believe you, no offense but i gotta see proof

Plus my idea of a hot ass is probably well above your idea 😉😆
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 17, 2018, 01:32:19 PM
Post up some pics of this, honestly I don't believe you, no offense but i gotta see proof

Plus my idea of a hot ass is probably well above your idea 😉😆
I mean are we talking Kwon type ass, like thick Brazilian ass? I dated some girls with nice asses for Thai women, one girl was a yoga instructor, she had great quads too.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 17, 2018, 01:39:45 PM
I mean are we talking Kwon type ass, like thick Brazilian ass? I dated some girls with nice asses for Thai women, one girl wasa yoga instructor, she had great quads too.

Like this

PS. I am training this girl 😉
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 17, 2018, 01:51:59 PM
Yeah the yoga girl I was dating has a better ass, not to mention just a cool as girl, cooked me all kinds of home cooked thai meals, brought her dvd player over to my condo so we can watch movies, took me to temples, all kinds of nice parks and stuff, unbelievable in the bed like kama sutra type shit!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 17, 2018, 01:53:51 PM
Like this

PS. I am training this girl 😉
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=755201;image)

You're full of shit, last time you posted that same photo you said she was an escort.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 17, 2018, 02:11:11 PM
You're full of shit, last time you posted that same photo you said she was an escort.

Hahahahhaha

Another jelly loser

I train with 4 different girls at the moment dummy 😉

Btw, where is your pic?

You will never post a pic of yourself ya FUCKING PUSSY COWARD

And to all the spectators here, don't ya find it kinda funny that all my haterz never have posted one single pic of themselves? Hmmmmmmmmmm

By the way, mast is taking my physique to a whole nother level pics coming sssssssssooooooooooooonn nnnnnnn
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 17, 2018, 02:56:01 PM
Hahahahhaha

Another jelly loser

I train with 4 different girls at the moment dummy 😉

Btw, where is your pic?

You will never post a pic of yourself ya FUCKING PUSSY COWARD

And to all the spectators here, don't ya find it kinda funny that all my haterz never have posted one single pic of themselves? Hmmmmmmmmmm

I don't have to produce a selfie to call you out on your lies. You don't fucking train with any women, if you did you'd post those pics instead of the same lame ones you have in every thread. Why do you think go4it asks for video from you all the time of these women? Because he knows you are slav nig*er rape baby trash who lives with his mommy and It will never happen.

Hahahahhaha
By the way, mast is taking my physique to a whole nother level pics coming sssssssssooooooooooooonn nnnnnnn

Yeah, that 300mg a week of masterone enanthate (what you can afford on your welfare budget) should make a huge difference...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 17, 2018, 03:07:33 PM
guess this thread is taken over now... was fun while it lasted
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 18, 2018, 12:14:25 AM
Hey blow4it, give me your email and i will send you pics of these females I train with

I will also send a pic of my sexyass x-wifey

Sorry bro but i aint posting that shit here, why waste it on shitstains who call me a liar

And bro, i cant make vids of my female partners, are you nuts?

What would i say, "hey, i got some shithead losers on some internet forum who don't believe me so they want me to post a vid of me training you, is that ok for you? Hahahhahahah

Oh, and my physique is going through daily changes, DAILY

Again don't give a flying fuck if you believe me or not
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 18, 2018, 03:29:33 AM
Sorry bro but i aint posting that shit here, why waste it on shitstains who call me a liar

Because nobody would call you a liar anymore? That's never going to happen though because you're lying.

And bro, i cant make vids of my female partners, are you nuts?

It isn't nuts at all if they were your "training partners" it's actually pretty fucking common for people to make videos or take pics of themselves training in the gym. The difference with you is they'd think you're a fucking creep because other than a "hello" they will have nothing to do with you.

What would i say, "hey, i got some shithead losers on some internet forum who don't believe me so they want me to post a vid of me training you, is that ok for you? Hahahhahahah

You're not training anybody you fucking liar.

Oh, and my physique is going through daily changes, DAILY

No, it's not...

Again don't give a flying fuck if you believe me or not

We don't...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 18, 2018, 04:33:45 AM
Again no pic from you

What a surprise

I am not lying dummy, just because i train them doesn't mean we are involved somehow

I have already said that i worked as fit trainer in USA, so i know what i am doing and i know much more than you bout training that is for damn sure puusy operative
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 18, 2018, 04:40:55 AM
Again no pic from you

What a surprise

I am not lying dummy, just because i train them doesn't mean we are involved somehow

I have already said that i worked as fit trainer in USA, so i know what i am doing and i know much more than you bout training that is for damn sure puusy operative

You don't have a clue about training you retard. You depend on drugs for what little muscle you have.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 18, 2018, 04:49:58 AM
You don't have a clue about training you retard. You depend on drugs for what little muscle you have.

BULLSHIT

I know how to train for all aspects of athletism dummy

Improving stamina, str, power, speed jumping ability etc etc
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 18, 2018, 07:30:19 AM
guess this thread is taken over now... was fun while it lasted
Haha, I'll try to get it back on track.

Hey blow4it, give me your email and i will send you pics of these females I train with

I will also send a pic of my sexyass x-wifey

Sorry bro but i aint posting that shit here, why waste it on shitstains who call me a liar

And bro, i cant make vids of my female partners, are you nuts?

What would i say, "hey, i got some shithead losers on some internet forum who don't believe me so they want me to post a vid of me training you, is that ok for you? Hahahhahahah

Oh, and my physique is going through daily changes, DAILY

Again don't give a flying fuck if you believe me or not
Dude I believe you, I'm telling you to post video just to make this place more fun and interesting again!

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 18, 2018, 07:40:07 AM
Thread back on track, back day progress.


Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 18, 2018, 10:48:22 AM
Haha, I'll try to get it back on track.
Dude I believe you, I'm telling you to post video just to make this place more fun and interesting again!



I'll post an arm.pump vid soon

But i wanna wait til im fucking looking like a greek god which won't take long thanks to mast 😎

3 weeks or less id say 😉
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 18, 2018, 10:56:36 AM
 And speaking if bulking that never did jack shit pour moi, even though doc Blakely is a huge proponent of it

Same goes for Thousand Island dressing and chocolate sauce. Be creative and never eat anything that you don't add calories to in some way. Melt provolone cheese over your pasta. Put ranch dressing on your pizza. Dip potato chips in honey. I don't care what sick and twisted combinations you come up with, as long as you find it palatable. You wouldn't believe some of the things I've eaten. ( Try a bowl full of peanut butter smothered in maple syrup and a stick of butter in the microwave for 30 seconds. Lay two Hershey bars over it to melt and you'll just start to understand.)

Carry food with you. Always have a jar of peanuts in your car. Carry Pop-Tarts, Slim Jim meat snacks, candy bars, anything handy that travels well and needs no special preparation. Never get caught away from food. Put it in your desk, your locker, your gym bag, your brief case, hell, carry some around in your pockets if you have to! Never miss a meal because you couldn't eat. What's that? Couldn't eat? It takes less than 50 seconds to eat two candy bars. That's over 500 calories. Even if you have to sneak it on the job, go to the john and wolf them down. You must never be without food. Take some with you. and never say you didn't have time (50 seconds?!) or opportunity. Find time or make time.

Eat immediately upon arising. Start right away. You lost time sleeping - you weren't eating! Fill up first thing in the morning. Don't wait! You went several hours without any food. The longer you wait the less time you have to get all the food your supposed to eat down. If you wait long enough it will be impossible to make it. You'll run out of time. Get off to a solid start. Minimum first meal calories: 1200. Eat over a grand right away and the rest of the day will be easier. Eat less, and you'll be playing catch-up all day long.

Eat just prior to bed. You are going to go for hours without food?Euel up! This is your last chance to feed your body for a long time give it one last push. This is uncomfortable for many, but with practice you will adapt and be able to eat a good calorie load before retiring. Shoot for 500 calories minimum.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 18, 2018, 10:57:19 AM
You don't have a clue about training you retard. You depend on drugs for what little muscle you have.

But i wanna wait til im fucking looking like a greek god which won't take long thanks to mast 😎

Thank you for proving my point you white trash scum.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 18, 2018, 10:59:47 AM
Lol @ white trash

Got a masters degree from The Ohio State University

And my mother is an author of math books for kids 😉

And my uncles have friends who are multi millionaires 😉
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 18, 2018, 11:25:19 AM
Lol @ white trash

Got a masters degree from The Ohio State University

In Sociology nig*er!!!

Your degree is fucking worthless, that's why you're a welfare recipient in poland living with mommy.

And my mother is an author of math books for kids 😉

And my uncles have friends who are multi millionaires 😉

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/78a69ec3f2219363acaa32cd47b6e5bd/tumblr_p2rn0dKQkL1wh69nmo1_540.jpg)

You are truly fucking sad...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 18, 2018, 11:30:57 AM
And speaking if bulking that never did jack shit pour moi, even though doc Blakely is a huge proponent of it

Same goes for Thousand Island dressing and chocolate sauce. Be creative and never eat anything that you don't add calories to in some way. Melt provolone cheese over your pasta. Put ranch dressing on your pizza. Dip potato chips in honey. I don't care what sick and twisted combinations you come up with, as long as you find it palatable. You wouldn't believe some of the things I've eaten. ( Try a bowl full of peanut butter smothered in maple syrup and a stick of butter in the microwave for 30 seconds. Lay two Hershey bars over it to melt and you'll just start to understand.)

Carry food with you. Always have a jar of peanuts in your car. Carry Pop-Tarts, Slim Jim meat snacks, candy bars, anything handy that travels well and needs no special preparation. Never get caught away from food. Put it in your desk, your locker, your gym bag, your brief case, hell, carry some around in your pockets if you have to! Never miss a meal because you couldn't eat. What's that? Couldn't eat? It takes less than 50 seconds to eat two candy bars. That's over 500 calories. Even if you have to sneak it on the job, go to the john and wolf them down. You must never be without food. Take some with you. and never say you didn't have time (50 seconds?!) or opportunity. Find time or make time.

Eat immediately upon arising. Start right away. You lost time sleeping - you weren't eating! Fill up first thing in the morning. Don't wait! You went several hours without any food. The longer you wait the less time you have to get all the food your supposed to eat down. If you wait long enough it will be impossible to make it. You'll run out of time. Get off to a solid start. Minimum first meal calories: 1200. Eat over a grand right away and the rest of the day will be easier. Eat less, and you'll be playing catch-up all day long.

Eat just prior to bed. You are going to go for hours without food?Euel up! This is your last chance to feed your body for a long time give it one last push. This is uncomfortable for many, but with practice you will adapt and be able to eat a good calorie load before retiring. Shoot for 500 calories minimum.


Dude if I ate like that it would wreck my gut/digestive system. Not to mention those are all shit sources of food. I don't want to eat processed garbage, just want easily digestable natural foods. My diet is simple:
1- 10 egg whites / 1.5 cup of white rice soy sauce
train
Post workout  1 scoop EAA's and  a few glucose tabs
2- 10oz chicken / 10oz sweet potato
3- 8oz ground sirloin / 10oz sweet potato
4- 10 egg whites / 1.5 cup of white rice soy sauce
train
EAA's / glucose tabs
5- 10oz ground turkey / 10oz sweet potato
6- 6oz salmon/ 1 avocado / handful of Macadamia nuts

Its around 400 carbs, 300 protein, 75-100 fat
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 18, 2018, 11:56:57 AM
so whats that like 3500 calories or so?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 18, 2018, 11:59:06 AM
so whats that like 3500 calories or so?
Yeah ball park around 3500-3700
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 18, 2018, 12:00:55 PM
Dude if I ate like that it would wreck my gut/digestive system. Not to mention those are all shit sources of food. I don't want to eat processed garbage, just want easily digestable natural foods. My diet is simple:
1- 10 egg whites / 1.5 cup of white rice soy sauce
train
Post workout  1 scoop EAA's and  a few glucose tabs
2- 10oz chicken / 10oz sweet potato
3- 8oz ground sirloin / 10oz sweet potato
4- 10 egg whites / 1.5 cup of white rice soy sauce
train
EAA's / glucose tabs
5- 10oz ground turkey / 10oz sweet potato
6- 6oz salmon/ 1 avocado / handful of Macadamia nuts

Its around 400 carbs, 300 protein, 75-100 fat

He is big on calorie density, he was able to work his way up to eating a legit 8500 cal a day bit he could only do it for a few days in a row

He had me at a legit 5000 cal and i went from 146 to 190 in 10 weeks all natty

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on January 18, 2018, 03:34:18 PM
Lol @ white trash

Got a masters degree from Devry University

And my mother is the author of "how to suck hundreds of dicks in a row" 😉

And my uncles have friends who touched me when I was a young boy 😉
Fixed
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: NelsonMuntz on January 18, 2018, 04:16:23 PM
He is big on calorie density, he was able to work his way up to eating a legit 8500 cal a day bit he could only do it for a few days in a row

He had me at a legit 5000 cal and i went from 146 to 190 in 10 weeks all natty



thing is you are both right and wrong about whether bulking works or not.

the problem is most people who go on bulks just bulk up for a couple of months, then trim down right away when they should be bulking up gradually over a year or so and letting their body and frame adapt to the extra weight, from there take it down slow, none of this cut diet bullshit.

I have watched so many people do this over the years, and a good example is most endomorphs, even when the ones who are not weight trainers drop the weight once everything gets stable weight wise they tend to be larger framed and more muscled than than other average people.
Look at goodrum, overweight a bit but he has thickness in his arms, and delts that he did not have a decade ago

so yeah bulking will not work if it is a quick fix 10 weeks up then cut down. If you had stayed at that 190 for a year or 2 you would hold alot more muscle mass both on and off gear, as well you might have more depth to your phsique
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 18, 2018, 04:18:28 PM
the world is full of people who bulk up gradually

thats how they end up obese, none of them gets obese after a couple of months
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Notomorrow on January 18, 2018, 05:28:14 PM
Nothing more depressing than finally getting to that bulked up target weight where you THINK you've put on alot of muscle and start to cut and watch bodyweight just go lower and lower...still not diced...so lower...until you end up nearly the same fucking weight as when you started the bulk...worst case scenario but happens WAY too frequently. Bulking is an excuse to eat like a pig and get fat..unless you are doing some  major hormone manipulation.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ESFitness on January 18, 2018, 07:22:50 PM
thing is you are both right and wrong about whether bulking works or not.

the problem is most people who go on bulks just bulk up for a couple of months, then trim down right away when they should be bulking up gradually over a year or so and letting their body and frame adapt to the extra weight, from there take it down slow, none of this cut diet bullshit.

I have watched so many people do this over the years, and a good example is most endomorphs, even when the ones who are not weight trainers drop the weight once everything gets stable weight wise they tend to be larger framed and more muscled than than other average people.
Look at goodrum, overweight a bit but he has thickness in his arms, and delts that he did not have a decade ago

so yeah bulking will not work if it is
a quick fix 10 weeks up then cut down. If you had stayed at that 190 for a year or 2 you would hold alot more muscle mass both on and off gear, as well you might have more depth to your phsique

Goodrum is obese. Not just a bit overweight. Legitimately 30% body fat. If Mr. Fragile Ego Levrone thinks I'm somehow 30%, goodrums 70%. Watching Entertainment Tonight at the moment and they got that Honey Boo Boo cast on, and Goodrum looks like the hat black male version of that heifer "Mama June".
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: wes on January 18, 2018, 09:19:38 PM
And speaking if bulking that never did jack shit pour moi, even though doc Blakely is a huge proponent of it

Same goes for Thousand Island dressing and chocolate sauce. Be creative and never eat anything that you don't add calories to in some way. Melt provolone cheese over your pasta. Put ranch dressing on your pizza. Dip potato chips in honey. I don't care what sick and twisted combinations you come up with, as long as you find it palatable. You wouldn't believe some of the things I've eaten. ( Try a bowl full of peanut butter smothered in maple syrup and a stick of butter in the microwave for 30 seconds. Lay two Hershey bars over it to melt and you'll just start to understand.)

Carry food with you. Always have a jar of peanuts in your car. Carry Pop-Tarts, Slim Jim meat snacks, candy bars, anything handy that travels well and needs no special preparation. Never get caught away from food. Put it in your desk, your locker, your gym bag, your brief case, hell, carry some around in your pockets if you have to! Never miss a meal because you couldn't eat. What's that? Couldn't eat? It takes less than 50 seconds to eat two candy bars. That's over 500 calories. Even if you have to sneak it on the job, go to the john and wolf them down. You must never be without food. Take some with you. and never say you didn't have time (50 seconds?!) or opportunity. Find time or make time.

Eat immediately upon arising. Start right away. You lost time sleeping - you weren't eating! Fill up first thing in the morning. Don't wait! You went several hours without any food. The longer you wait the less time you have to get all the food your supposed to eat down. If you wait long enough it will be impossible to make it. You'll run out of time. Get off to a solid start. Minimum first meal calories: 1200. Eat over a grand right away and the rest of the day will be easier. Eat less, and you'll be playing catch-up all day long.

Eat just prior to bed. You are going to go for hours without food?Euel up! This is your last chance to feed your body for a long time give it one last push. This is uncomfortable for many, but with practice you will adapt and be able to eat a good calorie load before retiring. Shoot for 500 calories minimum.


This is the cornerstone of a great bodybuilding diet broham. 

::)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 19, 2018, 12:15:51 AM
This is the cornerstone of a great bodybuilding diet broham. 

::)

He begs to differ
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tres_taco_combo on January 19, 2018, 09:03:00 AM
everyone responds to different diet, training, drugs, lifestyles and everyone has different goals

if you are competing as a bber it is a must to bulk up. sucks but gotta have an off season which includes adding size

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Griffith on January 19, 2018, 09:12:35 AM
Entering my 30's I decided to slim down. Bulking was fun in my 20's but now I think it would be a bit reckless.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 20, 2018, 01:34:30 PM
Bulk still going cant seem to break 195 on the scale, but lifts are getting good, put up 100 pound dbs for reps today.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 20, 2018, 02:04:35 PM
Bulk still going cant seem to break 195 on the scale, but lifts are getting good, put up 100 pound dbs for reps today.



Go on the Blakely diet bro

"Admit that you are under-eating!"

"I don't feel sorry for those who lack the discipline to eat more"

"I don't believe you if you tell me you can't eat more than you're eating now"

"You must not excuse yourself from eating what you are supposed to when you are supposed to"

"Carry mayo with you and add lots of it to everything"

"Dip potato chips in honey"

"Always have a jar of peanuts in your car"

"It takes less than 50 seconds to eat two candy bars"

"Never drink any fluids that don't have calories"

"Above all, you must accept the inarguable fact that you must put more food into your mouth"

"Remember - If you want to beat the man, you've gotta out eat the man"

😎😎😎
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 20, 2018, 03:18:39 PM
Go on the Blakely diet bro

"Admit that you are under-eating!"

"I don't feel sorry for those who lack the discipline to eat more"

"I don't believe you if you tell me you can't eat more than you're eating now"

"You must not excuse yourself from eating what you are supposed to when you are supposed to"

"Carry mayo with you and add lots of it to everything"

"Dip potato chips in honey"

"Always have a jar of peanuts in your car"

"It takes less than 50 seconds to eat two candy bars"

"Never drink any fluids that don't have calories"

"Above all, you must accept the inarguable fact that you must put more food into your mouth"

"Remember - If you want to beat the man, you've gotta out eat the man"

😎😎😎
Is this his quote? Dude I haven't eaten a potato chip since elementary school ;D I eat quality food, because I'm trying to put on quality weight, I'm not going to eat mayo and candy bars, theres tons of high caloric foods that are also nutrient dense and healthy.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 20, 2018, 04:32:24 PM
i dont see the point in eating excessive calories.

and its quite stupid to think that eating less healthy food will not have an effect in the long run.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: flinstones1 on January 20, 2018, 07:00:38 PM
Train hard 4-5 days a week
Do cardio twice a week. Wind sprints or pulling a weighted sled/tire flips are even better.
Bulk...but eat  a ton of clean food. Have a cheat meal once or twice a week.

Do this for a year. IF you aren't muscular and in decent shape there is something else going on. Low test levels, poor sleep, stress, etc.

A sample diet for me is this.

Meal 1) 6 whole omega 3 eggs, oatmeal, coffee, fruit
Meal 2) protein shake
Meal 3) steak and sweet potatoe
Meal 4) protein shake
Meal 5) sushi
Meal 6) pre bed shake

For me, I made the best gains of my life when I was sleeping 8-10 hours a night.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: flinstones1 on January 20, 2018, 07:01:32 PM
i dont see the point in eating excessive calories.

and its quite stupid to think that eating less healthy food will not have an effect in the long run.

Because gaining muscle requires calories. A 175 pound guy trying to get to 205 needs to eat his fucking ass off and train hard. Once you build the muscle, you don't need 4000 calories a day to maintain it.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: NelsonMuntz on January 20, 2018, 08:25:04 PM
Goodrum is obese. Not just a bit overweight. Legitimately 30% body fat. If Mr. Fragile Ego Levrone thinks I'm somehow 30%, goodrums 70%. Watching Entertainment Tonight at the moment and they got that Honey Boo Boo cast on, and Goodrum looks like the hat black male version of that heifer "Mama June".

say what you will about Vince, however whether any of us like it or not he unlike me, you and alot of other people here did diet down and compete, he may have not had the best physique or something that you feel is not worthy but you have never gotten into comp shape either, and other than when I did that eas transformation chellenge 20 years ago, neither have I

I think he got into decent shpe here for being natural with shit genetics

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/285589937/SANY1062.JPG)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on January 20, 2018, 10:08:44 PM
Bulk still going cant seem to break 195 on the scale, but lifts are getting good, put up 100 pound dbs for reps today.



Now that's how you press dbs. Good work go4it!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Griffith on January 20, 2018, 11:05:52 PM
Because gaining muscle requires calories. A 175 pound guy trying to get to 205 needs to eat his fucking ass off and train hard. Once you build the muscle, you don't need 4000 calories a day to maintain it.

According to Mike Mentzer, we only need slightly more than our maintenance level to build muscle.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2018, 12:16:07 AM
According to Mike Mentzer, we only need slightly more than our maintenance level to build muscle.

He said that he would train for months on end and get stronger and stronger with out a size increase and then..... BOOOMMMM

He would add 3or 4 pounds nearly overnight
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Henda on January 21, 2018, 03:15:52 AM
say what you will about Vince, however whether any of us like it or not he unlike me, you and alot of other people here did diet down and compete, he may have not had the best physique or something that you feel is not worthy but you have never gotten into comp shape either, and other than when I did that eas transformation chellenge 20 years ago, neither have I

I think he got into decent shpe here for being natural with shit genetics

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/285589937/SANY1062.JPG)

Probably the leanest photo we’ve seen of vince, problem is his condition there is equal to most people who train normal walking about with no attention to diet bodyfat level
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 21, 2018, 05:24:23 AM
Again no pic from you

What a surprise

I am not lying dummy, just because i train them doesn't mean we are involved somehow

I have already said that i worked as fit trainer in USA, so i know what i am doing and i know much more than you bout training that is for damn sure puusy operative

You haven't improved in over 20 fucking years. You are an ectomorph with shitty genes that goes on and off gear to gain the same few lbs of muscle and then lose it again and again. You have no business giving advice to anybody, if anything, you are a perfect example of someone who threw their life away chasing a dream. A middle aged loser posting about women when you haven't had one in years. You're unemployed and live with "family" which you tell us gives you the opportunity to live life the way you want which is apparently eating three meals a day, training chest and arms only with isolation movements, quoting jm blakely, worshiping black cock and constantly bringing up your superior racial bloodlines when in reality you're nothing but a mongrel.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=461426.0;attach=508339;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=636339.0;attach=744214;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=642075.0;attach=755332;image)

This is where you respond with pictures spread out over the years in your best condition which you brag was achieved by fast food and a 70's drug protocol. You should have been aborted.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: sceagacros on January 21, 2018, 05:28:52 AM
Blakely knows a thing or two  about how to drastically change weight classes-  "To be the man, you've gotta out eat the man" , and my favorite Blakely quote:
“canned soda pop is an excellent source of purified water”.

How's his health these days I wonder? Guy was a top dog back in the day for sure.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 21, 2018, 05:31:28 AM
Blakely knows a thing or two  about how to drastically change weight classes-  "To be the man, you've gotta out eat the man" , and my favorite Blakely quote:
“canned soda pop is an excellent source of purified water”.

How's his health these days I wonder?

He's dead...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: sceagacros on January 21, 2018, 05:33:29 AM
He's dead...

Wow.....didn't know.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2018, 06:23:53 AM
So putting a full 2 inches ON EACH ARM is not improvement

Just fuck off pussy
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 21, 2018, 06:56:29 AM
So putting a full 2 inches ON EACH ARM is not improvement

Just fuck off pussy

You haven't added two inches to your arms. They are 16 and change, if that, when you're at full bloat with a pump. You're giving go 4 it advice on breaking a plateau? He looks like superman, you look like dogshit. Tell me again how much of a pussy I am and the beating you'd give me you fucking man child.

(https://i.imgflip.com/1v5m65.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 21, 2018, 07:42:13 AM
Now that's how you press dbs. Good work go4it!
Mahalo broski! Respect!

Probably the leanest photo we’ve seen of vince, problem is his condition there is equal to most people who train normal walking about with no attention to diet bodyfat level
Wow, looking at that pic comparing to Vinces current look he actually has put on a ton of size, look completely different there.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 21, 2018, 07:53:26 AM
Because gaining muscle requires calories. A 175 pound guy trying to get to 205 needs to eat his fucking ass off and train hard. Once you build the muscle, you don't need 4000 calories a day to maintain it.

a few hundred calories more yes
a few thousand calories more no

there's a difference.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 21, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
a few hundred calories more yes
a few thousand calories more no

there's a difference.

This 8)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: SF1900 on January 21, 2018, 09:50:58 AM
Bulk still going cant seem to break 195 on the scale, but lifts are getting good, put up 100 pound dbs for reps today.



That's nothing.

I saw Chaos (conehead) push up the 150's for reps.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 21, 2018, 10:13:51 AM
That's nothing.

I saw Chaos (conehead) push up the 150's for reps.

But how does his chest looks like?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: SF1900 on January 21, 2018, 10:48:24 AM
But how does his chest looks like?

Chaos possesss a mountain of muscle, a sharp intellect, a quick witted sense of humor, and a refined palate.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 21, 2018, 11:06:53 AM
Chaos possesss a mountain of muscle, a sharp intellect, a quick witted sense of humor, and a refined palate.

You should write video scripts for Vince G
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: NelsonMuntz on January 21, 2018, 12:12:46 PM
He said that he would train for months on end and get stronger and stronger with out a size increase and then..... BOOOMMMM

He would add 3or 4 pounds nearly overnight

Mike Mentzer= Pure Mesomorph
DJ 181= Pure Ectomorph
Nelson Muntz= Pure Endomorph

Can you tell the differences in dietary and protein needs.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: flinstones1 on January 21, 2018, 01:31:31 PM
Bulk still going cant seem to break 195 on the scale, but lifts are getting good, put up 100 pound dbs for reps today.



No offense, but why would a guy your height be bulking to 195? That would look rediculous man. Even guys 5'10-6'0 look stupid when they go over 230 pounds myself included. Unless your a legit 6'1-6'2 no guy not competing should play the size game. Just stay healthy and lean man
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 21, 2018, 02:10:11 PM
No offense, but why would a guy your height be bulking to 195? That would look rediculous man. Even guys 5'10-6'0 look stupid when they go over 230 pounds myself included. Unless your a legit 6'1-6'2 no guy not competing should play the size game. Just stay healthy and lean man
I want to compete in classic bodybuilding for my height the weight limit is 180, I've won 2 Mens Physique shows at the weight of 150-156, when I competed on the national level I got up to around 165 and looked like a little boy compared to the dudes in my class, still placed top 10 out of over 35 dudes, but that was an absolute eye opener, I need a lot more size, and I figure if I can get up to around 200 lean around say 14% bf by the time I diet down maybe I'll land around the 175 pound mark.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Henda on January 21, 2018, 02:13:14 PM

Wow, looking at that pic comparing to Vinces current look he actually has put on a ton of size, look completely different there.

Haha no need to be polite about it, vince is downright obese now
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Zillotch on January 21, 2018, 02:53:02 PM
Chaos possesss a mountain of muscle, a sharp intellect, a quick witted sense of humor, and a refined palate.

he is super dumb. he sends me creepy pm's threatening to ban me cuz he thinks I'm shizzo, of all people, lol.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 21, 2018, 03:37:49 PM
i send pm's to people all the time threatening to ban them, some of them are so dumb they think i can even though im not even a mod, now thats dumb!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 21, 2018, 03:42:36 PM
Haha no need to be polite about it, vince is downright obese now
I'm not saying he's shredded, but the guy completely changed his structure, he's a thick dude now.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 21, 2018, 07:18:21 PM
Legs coming up bros!

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chess315 on January 21, 2018, 07:41:42 PM
I truly don't think this shit matters one way or the other. To gain muscle you have to eat more bottom line
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chess315 on January 21, 2018, 07:44:19 PM
So putting a full 2 inches ON EACH ARM is not improvement

Just fuck off pussy
is Blakely really dead I thought he was still alive
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2018, 10:09:24 PM
is Blakely really dead I thought he was still alive

I don't know

Last contact i had with him was bout 5 years ago
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: sceagacros on January 21, 2018, 11:09:39 PM
I think Blakely is a fine example of the "those who have eyes to see" dynamic, present in almost every aspect of strength and physique training. A natural who doesn't understand the mind numbing drug doses that went along with the gastronomical feats of heroism will turn to an absolute tub of lard within no time at all if stupid enough to emulate Blakely's drug inflamed metabolism.

Trying to out eat the 5+ grams of test (and who knows what else) that lifters of that level have typically used as a base (assuming guys like Ryan Kennelly and Mark Bell can be believed), takes an all-consuming, 24 hour a day commitment and even then stored bodyfat is surprisingly low all things considered.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: IRON CROSS on January 22, 2018, 01:14:39 AM
Chaos possesss a mountain of muscle, a sharp intellect, a quick witted sense of humor, and a refined palate.


What do U think about Hypertrophy "inventor" bulking ups, he is doing that 4 the last 25 years  ;D

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: flinstones1 on January 22, 2018, 02:00:41 AM
I’m a total health freak. Also in my experience you grow faster when your eating cleaner and you recover better.   The guys who say you don’t gain size eating clean almost always look like shit. Bloated red messes. Keep in mind clean for me is say a 12oz filet with vegetables and 2 cups of white rice.....chicken and brocolli  gets you nowhere. Have some organic dark chocolate throughout the day if it helps with the sweet tooth.  The last thing anyone needs to do is add a bunch of processed shit in their diet if gains and health are in mind. Give me a pound of bison with two sweet potatoes and half a cup of nuts and repeat that 3 times. That’s how you grow....you just don’t get the nutrients/antioxidants you need eating dirty to recover from strength training imo. Eating clean also means better sleep and sleep is everything in my experience. Your not getting 8-10 hours of deep sleep a night your not growing. When my sleep is fucked up I don’t make the same strength gains
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2018, 03:06:11 AM
"you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can't tell a lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

going in to work da bag and rip dat shit up bitch  8) 8) 8)

and blowforshit, respect for posting up vids dude

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: IRON CROSS on January 22, 2018, 03:12:56 AM
I’m a total health freak. Also in my experience you grow faster when your eating cleaner and you recover better.   The guys who say you don’t gain size eating clean almost always look like shit. Bloated red messes. Keep in mind clean for me is say a 12oz filet with vegetables and 2 cups of white rice.....chicken and brocolli  gets you nowhere. Have some organic dark chocolate throughout the day if it helps with the sweet tooth.  The last thing anyone needs to do is add a bunch of processed shit in their diet if gains and health are in mind. Give me a pound of bison with two sweet potatoes and half a cup of nuts and repeat that 3 times. That’s how you grow....you just don’t get the nutrients/antioxidants you need eating dirty to recover from strength training imo. Eating clean also means better sleep and sleep is everything in my experience. Your not getting 8-10 hours of deep sleep a night your not growing. When my sleep is fucked up I don’t make the same strength gains


Agree with U, I am vegetarian, when I see what people eat & buy in shops  :P :P :P
+ how fat is some people, makes me vomit  :P
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2018, 03:17:38 AM

Agree with U, I am vegetarian, when I see what people eat & buy in shops  :P :P :P
+ how fat is some people, makes me vomit  :P

i know you are from OZ so are you tapping this fellow vegan?  8)

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: sceagacros on January 22, 2018, 03:44:13 AM
Kirk Karwoski  knows a thing or two about bulking/ cutting also:

'Back when I was conversing on a regular basis with Kirk Karwoski we talked extensively about his training and eating during his competitive years.

 When I asked him how he ate in order to get into the lean condition he did for his AAU raw meet back in 94 he told me something very interesting.

 "I did the "every other" diet." he said.

 "The every other diet?" I asked, befuddled.

 "Yeah, so I would eat something clean one meal, then something you know, not so clean the next meal.  Then something clean, etc."

 "And that's got you that lean?" I said.  Kirk competed that year in the 242 class looking the best he ever had.

 "Yeah" he said.  "Well, you have to remember at the time, I was working a very physically active job.  When I ate clean every meal I lost too much weight.  When I ate clean and then threw in some extra calories to cover my physical needs, it seemed to work out just right."
' (excerpted from "The "every other" diet and the "clean" vs "dirty" food debate ")


http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2013/12/the-every-other-diet-and-clean-vs-dirty.html

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2018, 04:09:20 AM
I think Blakely is a fine example of the "those who have eyes to see" dynamic, present in almost every aspect of strength and physique training. A natural who doesn't understand the mind numbing drug doses that went along with the gastronomical feats of heroism will turn to an absolute tub of lard within no time at all if stupid enough to emulate Blakely's drug inflamed metabolism.

Trying to out eat the 5+ grams of test (and who knows what else) that lifters of that level have typically used as a base (assuming guys like Ryan Kennelly and Mark Bell can be believed), takes an all-consuming, 24 hour a day commitment and even then stored bodyfat is surprisingly low all things considered.

Blakely told me that for the lighter guys, 220 and under it's best to be as lean as possible, like 6-8%

not sure if he'd agree with 4%?

i can get there and stay there comfortably no extra effort and i feel good and strong that ripped
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 22, 2018, 04:45:47 AM

Agree with U, I am vegetarian, when I see what people eat & buy in shops  :P :P :P
+ how fat is some people, makes me vomit  :P

outed
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Seductor on January 22, 2018, 06:38:02 AM
I want to compete in classic bodybuilding for my height the weight limit is 180, I've won 2 Mens Physique shows at the weight of 150-156, when I competed on the national level I got up to around 165 and looked like a little boy compared to the dudes in my class, still placed top 10 out of over 35 dudes, but that was an absolute eye opener, I need a lot more size, and I figure if I can get up to around 200 lean around say 14% bf by the time I diet down maybe I'll land around the 175 pound mark.
Somebody give this kid a sandwich
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 22, 2018, 09:11:57 AM
I’m a total health freak. Also in my experience you grow faster when your eating cleaner and you recover better.   The guys who say you don’t gain size eating clean almost always look like shit. Bloated red messes. Keep in mind clean for me is say a 12oz filet with vegetables and 2 cups of white rice.....chicken and brocolli  gets you nowhere. Have some organic dark chocolate throughout the day if it helps with the sweet tooth.  The last thing anyone needs to do is add a bunch of processed shit in their diet if gains and health are in mind. Give me a pound of bison with two sweet potatoes and half a cup of nuts and repeat that 3 times. That’s how you grow....you just don’t get the nutrients/antioxidants you need eating dirty to recover from strength training imo. Eating clean also means better sleep and sleep is everything in my experience. Your not getting 8-10 hours of deep sleep a night your not growing. When my sleep is fucked up I don’t make the same strength gains
I concur.

"you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can't tell a lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

going in to work da bag and rip dat shit up bitch  8) 8) 8)

and blowforshit, respect for posting up vids dude


Thanks dude, put up some vids dude, show us how you do it in Poland!

Somebody give this kid a sandwich
;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2018, 09:23:39 AM
^^^ tried a tri vid bit it came out bad, I'll try a bi vid next
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tom joad on January 22, 2018, 02:22:07 PM
Dude if I ate like that it would wreck my gut/digestive system. Not to mention those are all shit sources of food. I don't want to eat processed garbage, just want easily digestable natural foods. My diet is simple:
1- 10 egg whites / 1.5 cup of white rice soy sauce
train
Post workout  1 scoop EAA's and  a few glucose tabs
2- 10oz chicken / 10oz sweet potato
3- 8oz ground sirloin / 10oz sweet potato
4- 10 egg whites / 1.5 cup of white rice soy sauce
train
EAA's / glucose tabs
5- 10oz ground turkey / 10oz sweet potato
6- 6oz salmon/ 1 avocado / handful of Macadamia nuts

Its around 400 carbs, 300 protein, 75-100 fat

Go4It, do you ever schedule in a "cheat" meal?  Take a time out from typical bodybuilding fare and maybe eat some pizza or pasta...like going back to your roots?  Or perhaps go to town on some dessert?  Do you get any non-healthy food cravings?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 22, 2018, 02:24:00 PM
Go4It, do you ever schedule in a "cheat" meal?  Take a time out from typical bodybuilding fare and maybe eat some pizza or pasta...like going back to your roots?  Or perhaps go to town on some dessert?  Do you get any non-healthy food cravings?



Pizza Place Killer: I got a bomb here! I'll kill her! I'll blow this whole place up!

Go4it: Go ahead. I don't eat here
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Zillotch on January 22, 2018, 02:30:26 PM
Pizza Place Killer: I got a bomb here! I'll kill her! I'll blow this whole place up!

Go4it: Go ahead. I don't eat here

if I knocked on ur door... u would die of fright
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 22, 2018, 03:29:28 PM
Go4It, do you ever schedule in a "cheat" meal?  Take a time out from typical bodybuilding fare and maybe eat some pizza or pasta...like going back to your roots?  Or perhaps go to town on some dessert?  Do you get any non-healthy food cravings?
Usually if I cheat it's alcohol. But food wise it will be something like Mexican food like a huge burrito with tons of meat/rice/guacamole, maybe Ihop pancakes or waffles, or cereal I'll take down a box of something throw in some protein powder and add a few bananas. But I'm not a huge pizza guy or ice cream, mainly because I'm lactose intolerant, although delicious It's just not worth the digestive issues I get from it and I'll have serious room clearing gas for like 2 days.



Pizza Place Killer: I got a bomb here! I'll kill her! I'll blow this whole place up!

Go4it: Go ahead. I don't eat here
Haha, classic! ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 22, 2018, 03:36:07 PM
Arm Day dudes, make sure you're doing your tricep kickbacks! ;D

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 22, 2018, 05:52:09 PM
Arm Day dudes, make sure you're doing your tricep kickbacks! ;D


How many times do you train arms a week?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 22, 2018, 06:22:25 PM
^^^ tried a tri vid bit it came out bad, I'll try a bi vid next

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/fe/fc/2cfefcacf774c5ff8b967de34288ccb7.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: AbrahamG on January 22, 2018, 07:04:04 PM
Arm Day dudes, make sure you're doing your tricep kickbacks! ;D



Shoulders look a little pointy.  Something's off.  Site enhancement?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: FREAKgeek on January 22, 2018, 07:18:47 PM
Can we all agree on this now?  If you aren't on a lot of drugs, bulking is one of the worst things you can do.  If it's your first year of training you can be a little relaxed on what you eat as you will put on 10-15 pounds of muscle.  After that, there is no reason to eat more than a 5-10% calorie surplus.  Every time you go on youtube you see these fake natties talking about bulking and their "off season" diet.  What it's become is the lazy narcissistic mentality of the fitness community justifying over eating, complacency and food wasting.

What's your opinion and or experiences with bulking?

Like others have said, you need a little more to grow, but beyond that excess is excess.


Bulking might be a terrible idea if you are natural and a bodybuilder, I can think of many other weight lifting scenarios where this is not the case.
The easiest way to put some pounds on your bench is to put some pounds on your frame, irrespective of whether it's in vogue or not.


Completely agree.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 22, 2018, 09:12:30 PM
Shoulders look a little pointy.  Something's off.  Site enhancement?
Um, no.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: flinstones1 on January 22, 2018, 09:27:33 PM
Blakely told me that for the lighter guys, 220 and under it's best to be as lean as possible, like 6-8%

not sure if he'd agree with 4%?

i can get there and stay there comfortably no extra effort and i feel good and strong that ripped


Problem with being 6-7% is your just asking for an injury if your training heavy.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: sceagacros on January 22, 2018, 11:07:10 PM
Problem with being 6-7% is your just asking for an injury if your training heavy.

Agreed.
10-15% (minimum) is ideal for powerlifting.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 22, 2018, 11:41:47 PM
a fit look is ALWAYS more appealing than a bulk. No one gives a shit about bulked guys...they are out of shape, fat! Even a fotballplayer look better than a bulked gay, even a tennis player...the only "girls" who like bulked guys are 35+ overweight singel moms so they dosent feel like big piggs standing beside their men...

And if your natural u will just look like shit when over 10%...bcz the fat will not place well if your a natural and 30+ age It may look ok if your go up to 30-40% then u become round at least...big hard belly, thats ok, but loose fat is the worst thing a man ever can have
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: IRON CROSS on January 23, 2018, 12:27:23 AM
i know you are from OZ so are you tapping this fellow vegan?  8)



I don't see image, can't comment  8)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on January 23, 2018, 04:43:48 AM
Um, no.
maybe not but you are just turning this whole thread into a Go 4 It thread.  ::)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: sceagacros on January 23, 2018, 05:05:59 AM
is Blakely really dead I thought he was still alive

https://www.facebook.com/johnmark.blakley

Well he's on facebook but that doesn't mean he's alive.


"“Now before you lay into it, I want you to sit on your couch and just stare at that fucker. I want you to understand that that pizza right there is keeping you from your goals.”" - jm blakley
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 23, 2018, 06:56:00 AM
maybe not but you are just turning this whole thread into a Go 4 It thread.  ::)
You gotta admit one thing Go4it is transparent,  posting photos and videos documenting his bulk. Big props on actually showing some lifting footage. Is he natural? Highly unlikely,  but who really gives a shit, it's bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 23, 2018, 06:58:51 AM
You gotta admit one thing Go4it is transparent,  posting photos and videos documenting his bulk. Big props on actually showing some lifting footage. Is he natural? Highly unlikely,  but who really gives a shit, it's bodybuilding.

Appears to have added in abombs 💣
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Griffith on January 23, 2018, 06:59:05 AM
a fit look is ALWAYS more appealing than a bulk. No one gives a shit about bulked guys...they are out of shape, fat! Even a fotballplayer look better than a bulked gay, even a tennis player...the only "girls" who like bulked guys are 35+ overweight singel moms so they dosent feel like big piggs standing beside their men...

And if your natural u will just look like shit when over 10%...bcz the fat will not place well if your a natural and 30+ age It may look ok if your go up to 30-40% then u become round at least...big hard belly, thats ok, but loose fat is the worst thing a man ever can have

Exactly  ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: a_pupil on January 23, 2018, 10:55:45 AM
if go4it gets to 195 in the same condition he'll be a beast
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 23, 2018, 11:10:24 AM
if go4it gets to 195 in the same condition he'll be a beast

Easy just add in tren ACE ♠♠♠
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: a_pupil on January 23, 2018, 11:14:37 AM
Easy just add in tren ACE ♠♠♠

he's natty/semi natty. go4it is 37 but still pretty and with a full head of luscious hair (no homo), so either he has bulletproof genetics or he's on semi-natty doses max.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 23, 2018, 11:19:33 AM
Lulz @ natty

Love blowforshut but... Well we know wots up
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 23, 2018, 11:24:03 AM
Dude if I ate like that it would wreck my gut/digestive system. Not to mention those are all shit sources of food. I don't want to eat processed garbage, just want easily digestable natural foods. My diet is simple:
1- 10 egg whites / 1.5 cup of white rice soy sauce
train
Post workout  1 scoop EAA's and  a few glucose tabs
2- 10oz chicken / 10oz sweet potato
3- 8oz ground sirloin / 10oz sweet potato
4- 10 egg whites / 1.5 cup of white rice soy sauce
train
EAA's / glucose tabs
5- 10oz ground turkey / 10oz sweet potato
6- 6oz salmon/ 1 avocado / handful of Macadamia nuts

Its around 400 carbs, 300 protein, 75-100 fat
Dude if I had to eat like that I would give up, 10 egg whites and white rice for breakfast???

the rest totally tasteless, I might manage that for a week before stepping onstage but offseason, not in a million years.

I admire your commitment...

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: a_pupil on January 23, 2018, 11:27:39 AM
Arm Day dudes, make sure you're doing your tricep kickbacks! ;D



 :o

keep it up bro. pretty much the best physique on getbig now that uncle jeff/bethere left.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 23, 2018, 11:28:32 AM
:o

keep it up bro. pretty much the best physique on getbig now that uncle jeff/bethere left.

be there be back.  ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 23, 2018, 02:36:25 PM
you rather be back than be big  ???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 23, 2018, 04:03:08 PM
maybe not but you are just turning this whole thread into a Go 4 It thread.  ::)
My apologies, looking forward to your input and theories in this subject of bulking.

You gotta admit one thing Go4it is transparent,  posting photos and videos documenting his bulk. Big props on actually showing some lifting footage. Is he natural? Highly unlikely,  but who really gives a shit, it's bodybuilding.
I mean it's a bodybuilding forum so why not throw up a vid or a pic especially if it pertains to the subject, I happen to be bulking at the moment so why not show some of the process.
if go4it gets to 195 in the same condition he'll be a beast
To be 195 in contest shape I would probably have to get up to 220 plus, thats pretty damn big dude.

Dude if I had to eat like that I would give up, 10 egg whites and white rice for breakfast???

the rest totally tasteless, I might manage that for a week before stepping onstage but offseason, not in a million years.

I admire your commitment...


Welcome back dude! For me it's just normal eating, I've never eaten junk food ever so to my pallet this food is delicious. Truthfully whenever I eat any kind of fast food or sugary food I feel like absolute shit, definitely don't feel energized to train or get shit done. My vice is booze, I like to drink. But egg whites, rice, soy sauce and some hot sauce is amazing for breakfast try it out.
:o

keep it up bro. pretty much the best physique on getbig now that uncle jeff/bethere left.
Lots of good physiques here, especially Be There.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 23, 2018, 07:39:32 PM
Go4it, What's your arm routine? How frequently do you train them?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 24, 2018, 12:12:07 AM
Welcome back dude! For me it's just normal eating, I've never eaten junk food ever so to my pallet this food is delicious. Truthfully whenever I eat any kind of fast food or sugary food I feel like absolute shit, definitely don't feel energized to train or get shit done. My vice is booze, I like to drink. But egg whites, rice, soy sauce and some hot sauce is amazing for breakfast try it out.

I currently have fried eggs on white toast with benecol spread and a bit of ketchup.
Not sure the rice and egg whites could match up.
I don't eat much fast food, occasionally pizza and indian and Chinese takeaways, I prefer to make my own food, if we do eat out its home-cooked restaurant type pubs as opposed to chain places.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on January 24, 2018, 01:27:39 AM
man you sound punch drunk  :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 24, 2018, 02:24:23 AM
man you sound punch drunk  :D


gotta admit he is bigger but in the process he seems to be developing a pea head  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 24, 2018, 03:47:09 AM
Go4it, What's your arm routine? How frequently do you train them?
I'm currently training arms everything twice a week. Arms I do three exercises for each Biceps and Tricep. Example would be Bi's: seated alternating dumbell curls, incline hammer curls, preacher curls (each workout change grip from inside to outside). Triceps : rope extension, skull crushers, close grip bench.
Preacher curls yesterday, 100 for 8 reps, not close to DJ's 120 for 8 but I'm doing my best.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 24, 2018, 03:55:50 AM
I currently have fried eggs on white toast with benecol spread and a bit of ketchup.
Not sure the rice and egg whites could match up.
I don't eat much fast food, occasionally pizza and indian and Chinese takeaways, I prefer to make my own food, if we do eat out its home-cooked restaurant type pubs as opposed to chain places.
Well, whatever you're doing it works for you and it has for years so obviously stick to the formula. I did the eggs and rice thing when I was in Thailand it may sound like a weird combo it's actually pretty good.

man you sound punch drunk  :D

Haha, yes ;D Partly I was trying to imitate a video I saw back in the day on here of Sevaste and he opened up the video with "Whats up Getbig"  

gotta admit he is bigger but in the process he seems to be developing a pea head  :D :D :D
Well if you are getting bigger obviously your head is going to start looking smaller.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 24, 2018, 05:36:08 AM
Well, whatever you're doing it works for you and it has for years so obviously stick to the formula. I did the eggs and rice thing when I was in Thailand it may sound like a weird combo it's actually pretty good.
Haha, yes ;D Partly I was trying to imitate a video I saw back in the day on here of Sevaste and he opened up the video with "Whats up Getbig"  
Well if you are getting bigger obviously your head is going to start looking smaller.

How does the cruise line feel about bringing steroids on the ship?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 24, 2018, 05:51:20 AM
How does the cruise line feel about bringing steroids on the ship?

It's none of their fucking business
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on January 24, 2018, 05:52:36 AM
It's none of their fucking business

Sure it is.  They own the boat.

If someone has illegal substances on board, it's totally within their rights to question/remove, etc..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 24, 2018, 06:06:34 AM
How does the cruise line feel about bringing steroids on the ship?
Absolutely impossible to bring on steroids or any drugs on the ship, but particularly steroids. Going on and off the ship is exactly identical to going through TSA at the airport. Everything goes through an ex ray machine, metal detectors, etc..not to mention if you get caught it's considered a federal offence i believe trafficking. Try to get it sent to you again isn't going to happen, again the package has to go through customs, then go through our ships security again every package gets xrayed, so to answer your question, you would have to be an idiot to try to bring steroids on the ship. Also our cabins get inspected on a weekly basis and are also subject to random inspections. I've witnessed numerous crew members get arrested for bringing drugs on to the ship, most of the time it's weed or coke, but its a serious offence when you are on a ship.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on January 24, 2018, 06:07:52 AM
Absolutely impossible to bring on steroids or any drugs on the ship, but particularly steroids. Going on and off the ship is exactly identical to going through TSA at the airport. Everything goes through an ex ray machine, metal detectors, etc..not to mention if you get caught it's considered a federal offence i believe trafficking. Try to get it sent to you again isn't going to happen, again the package has to go through customs, then go through our ships security again every package gets xrayed, so to answer your question, you would have to be an idiot to try to bring steroids on the ship. Also our cabins get inspected on a weekly basis and are also subject to random inspections. I've witnessed numerous crew members get arrested for bringing drugs on to the ship, most of the time it's weed or coke, but its a serious offence when you are on a ship.

I would guess it's a one and done type thing if someone is caught?  Immediate dismissal?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 24, 2018, 06:15:25 AM
I would guess it's a one and done type thing if someone is caught?  Immediate dismissal?
One and done? Dude they notify ships security, place you in the brig, call the local Hawaiian authorities and you are arrested, it's serious shit, I've seen passengers get arrested for bringing weed on the ship, I get asked by passengers all the time about weed, it's Hawaii theres weed everywhere, but I always stress to them do not bring it on board, you will absolutely get caught. Hawaiian weed is so pungent theres no way you can smoke and it not be detected even if you are on a balcony or outside, it's no joke bro.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 24, 2018, 06:15:48 AM
Sure it is.  They own the boat.

If someone has illegal substances on board, it's totally within their rights to question/remove, etc..

Legally, they have the right to do so, but I wouldn't work for an employer like that. There are ways to hide things to the customs, that's no secret.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on January 24, 2018, 06:19:31 AM
Legally, they have the right to do so, but I wouldn't work for an employer like that. There are ways to hide things to the customs, that's no secret.

It's standard stuff on cruise ship.  Too much liability I'd guess, but I'm no expert.

As for G4IT, he's got an awesome set up that works exactly with his preferred lifestyle, so I'm sure he's not having issue with it.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 24, 2018, 06:26:02 AM
It's standard stuff on cruise ship.  Too much liability I'd guess, but I'm no expert.

As for G4IT, he's got an awesome set up that works exactly with his preferred lifestyle, so I'm sure he's not having issue with it.

Yeah, I'm afraid they have no other choice.
I wonder about the status of medical cannabis. Sure, it could be dangerous aboard, but what if someone has a prescription?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on January 24, 2018, 06:30:15 AM
Yeah, I'm afraid they have no other choice.
I wonder about the status of medical cannabis. Sure, it could be dangerous aboard, but what if someone has a prescription?

Good question.  I would still think they could disallow it, or require edible forms, as to not affect other passengers.

Same with HRT.....
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 24, 2018, 06:38:20 AM
Yeah, I'm afraid they have no other choice.
I wonder about the status of medical cannabis. Sure, it could be dangerous aboard, but what if someone has a prescription?
I remember once they confiscated this passengers medical weed, he was from Colorado where its legal, but I remember the head of security saying something that it's not legal in Hawaii, something along those lines. If you're a crew member, you will not even be hired, if you're on prescription meds, any kind of anxiety meds, pain killers, diabetes, etc..they will not hire you, they do a complete medical background check on you, and you have to disclose all meds that you are on, and again if they find any prescription meds in your cabin that you have not disclosed to corporate, you are immediately fired. I've also seen crew members who have been working there for several years develop diabetes and they were placed on medical leave until they can reverse the situation, happened to a friend of mine, black guy, terrible diet, got diabetes and ended up being placed on medical leave, he's been trying to get better for over a year now, you can reverse diabetes through diet but you have to be strict and regimented with your food.  And no way in hell will you ever be allowed to be on hrt as a crew member, no chance. They want zero liabilities, they have a waiting list of thousands just that are already hired just waiting for jobs to open up, if they have a option of hiring a guy who is on zero meds, versus a guy who is on hrt and bringing needles and anti estrogen meds on the ship, who do you think they are going to hire? And the older you are the less probability of you getting hired, older people are more of a liability, which is why majority of the crew is 18-30 years old.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 24, 2018, 07:12:47 AM
I remember once they confiscated this passengers medical weed, he was from Colorado where its legal, but I remember the head of security saying something that it's not legal in Hawaii, something along those lines. If you're a crew member, you will not even be hired, if you're on prescription meds, any kind of anxiety meds, pain killers, diabetes, etc..they will not hire you, they do a complete medical background check on you, and you have to disclose all meds that you are on, and again if they find any prescription meds in your cabin that you have not disclosed to corporate, you are immediately fired. I've also seen crew members who have been working there for several years develop diabetes and they were placed on medical leave until they can reverse the situation, happened to a friend of mine, black guy, terrible diet, got diabetes and ended up being placed on medical leave, he's been trying to get better for over a year now, you can reverse diabetes through diet but you have to be strict and regimented with your food.  And no way in hell will you ever be allowed to be on hrt as a crew member, no chance. They want zero liabilities, they have a waiting list of thousands just that are already hired just waiting for jobs to open up, if they have a option of hiring a guy who is on zero meds, versus a guy who is on hrt and bringing needles and anti estrogen meds on the ship, who do you think they are going to hire? And the older you are the less probability of you getting hired, older people are more of a liability, which is why majority of the crew is 18-30 years old.

I think the bold part sums it up clearly, and even as a liberal-minded person I can understand their risk-rationale.

Totally different question, for how long are you working on a cruise? Do you plan to work there till your pension?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 24, 2018, 07:31:47 AM
I think the bold part sums it up clearly, and even as a liberal-minded person I can understand their risk-rationale.

Totally different question, for how long are you working on a cruise? Do you plan to work there till your pension?
Ive been there 8 years, I plan on working there until I'm not enjoying it anymore, but I put in paperwork to be transfered to one of our international ships, I want  to work in Europe or Asia, it will be a major pay cut, the cool thing about working on ships is when you join a new ship it's like starting all over again, you are in a completely new environment and need to learn everything from scratch, not to mention you don't know anyone, which is cool, its like starting a new college or highschool and you're the "new guy."
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 24, 2018, 07:45:21 AM
Since they are so strict with drugs on the ship then you must be a natural. Incredible physique for a natural.  Good going!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Kwon on January 24, 2018, 08:04:09 AM
:o

keep it up bro. pretty much the best physique on getbig now that uncle jeff/bethere left.

Uk Jeff has the best physique for taller guys, while Go4It has the best physique for shorter getbiggers,

I'd say their both best, but in different classes.

Great physique on Go4It, but also Epic Hair.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 24, 2018, 08:49:40 AM
One and done? Dude they notify ships security, place you in the brig, call the local Hawaiian authorities and you are arrested, it's serious shit, I've seen passengers get arrested for bringing weed on the ship, I get asked by passengers all the time about weed, it's Hawaii theres weed everywhere, but I always stress to them do not bring it on board, you will absolutely get caught. Hawaiian weed is so pungent theres no way you can smoke and it not be detected even if you are on a balcony or outside, it's no joke bro.

sounds like a shit place to take a holiday...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 24, 2018, 08:51:00 AM
I remember once they confiscated this passengers medical weed, he was from Colorado where its legal, but I remember the head of security saying something that it's not legal in Hawaii, something along those lines. If you're a crew member, you will not even be hired, if you're on prescription meds, any kind of anxiety meds, pain killers, diabetes, etc..they will not hire you, they do a complete medical background check on you, and you have to disclose all meds that you are on, and again if they find any prescription meds in your cabin that you have not disclosed to corporate, you are immediately fired. I've also seen crew members who have been working there for several years develop diabetes and they were placed on medical leave until they can reverse the situation, happened to a friend of mine, black guy, terrible diet, got diabetes and ended up being placed on medical leave, he's been trying to get better for over a year now, you can reverse diabetes through diet but you have to be strict and regimented with your food.  And no way in hell will you ever be allowed to be on hrt as a crew member, no chance. They want zero liabilities, they have a waiting list of thousands just that are already hired just waiting for jobs to open up, if they have a option of hiring a guy who is on zero meds, versus a guy who is on hrt and bringing needles and anti estrogen meds on the ship, who do you think they are going to hire? And the older you are the less probability of you getting hired, older people are more of a liability, which is why majority of the crew is 18-30 years old.

I can guarantee esfitness has worked on a cruise ship whilst on TRT
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2018, 08:59:02 AM
sounds like a shit place to take a holiday...
BE BACK WHERE IS BE THERE..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 24, 2018, 09:01:49 AM
BE BACK WHERE IS BE THERE..
in front of me, I have his back...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 24, 2018, 09:06:56 AM
I can guarantee esfitness has worked on a cruise ship whilst on TRT

Being obsessed by ES, you made a comeback?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2018, 09:08:46 AM
in front of me, I have his back...
BACK THERE THEN 8)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 24, 2018, 09:17:49 AM
Being obsessed by ES, you made a comeback?
in posting that I thought I might put him off posting his wall of text about how he and only he can beat the system.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 24, 2018, 09:25:55 AM
in posting that I thought I might put him off posting his wall of text about how he and only he can beat the system.

True or false, just let him post his stories. Why would you even care? It's just the internet, not a cheating boyfriend  ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 24, 2018, 09:34:12 AM
True or false, just let him post his stories. Why would you even care? It's just the internet, not a cheating boyfriend  ;)

hahaha... OK, will ignore him...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 24, 2018, 09:35:42 AM
Ive been there 8 years, I plan on working there until I'm not enjoying it anymore, but I put in paperwork to be transfered to one of our international ships, I want  to work in Europe or Asia, it will be a major pay cut, the cool thing about working on ships is when you join a new ship it's like starting all over again, you are in a completely new environment and need to learn everything from scratch, not to mention you don't know anyone, which is cool, its like starting a new college or highschool and you're the "new guy."

Post up a shirtless pic of you at your leanest and shirtless pic from now and post your weight in each pic
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 24, 2018, 09:38:43 AM
Post up a shirtless pic of you at your leanest and shirtless pic from now and post your weight in each pic

You're like a noisy gay fly, can't you just leave this place or kill yourself?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 24, 2018, 09:42:15 AM
You're like a noisy gay fly, can't you just leave this place or kill yourself?
he will post a pic of Hearns on the cover of sports illustrated in response, it always follows the same sequence.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 24, 2018, 09:46:03 AM
he will post a pic of Hearns on the cover of sports illustrated in response, it always follows the same sequence.

Drama Jane, 181 failed one-trick pony attempts...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 24, 2018, 09:54:25 AM
Oh look! It's tweedle dee and tweedle dumb

And..... fuck off
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 24, 2018, 09:58:25 AM
Oh look! It's tweedle dee and tweedle dumb

And..... fuck off

Not before you post a pic of yourself, hanging on a rope or crushed by the bumper of a truck
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: oldschoolfan on January 24, 2018, 10:00:35 AM
I'm currently training arms everything twice a week. Arms I do three exercises for each Biceps and Tricep. Example would be Bi's: seated alternating dumbell curls, incline hammer curls, preacher curls (each workout change grip from inside to outside). Triceps : rope extension, skull crushers, close grip bench.
Preacher curls yesterday, 100 for 8 reps, not close to DJ's 120 for 8 but I'm doing my best.


dj isnt doing 120 for 8 hes full of shit, posts photo shopped pics been on gear for a long time and not much results to speak of.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 24, 2018, 10:10:38 AM
Oh look! It's tweedle dee and tweedle dumb

And..... fuck off

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/f4c30a8cd7eb4d7c3f106ac530ee6543/tumblr_p32nh3g4qY1wh69nmo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 24, 2018, 10:22:27 AM
dj isnt doing 120 for 8 hes full of shit, posts photo shopped pics been on gear for a long time and not much results to speak of.

And he refuses to hold a simple note with his written name on a photo. Yet, he demands picture 'proof' from other men(!)...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 24, 2018, 10:32:35 AM
dj isnt doing 120 for 8 hes full of shit, posts photo shopped pics been on gear for a long time and not much results to speak of.

Pics are not shopped so you are lying

And i was off gear for 9 months been back on 3 months
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Dr Dutch on January 24, 2018, 10:33:31 AM
And he refuses to hold a simple note with his written name on a photo. Yet, he demands picture 'proof' from other men(!)...
I remember you going into a tantrum when your name came onto the board a few years ago.... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 24, 2018, 10:48:48 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=626472.0;attach=715532;image)

Look at this fucking retard.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 24, 2018, 11:03:02 AM
Post your pic pussy but you won't

COWARD

I know you are a fat fuck 10000% sure 😉
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on January 24, 2018, 11:26:10 AM
he's natty/semi natty. go4it is 37 but still pretty and with a full head of luscious hair (no homo), so either he has bulletproof genetics or he's on semi-natty doses max.

How do you know he's 37? Looks more like 27?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 24, 2018, 11:56:43 AM
I'm currently training arms everything twice a week. Arms I do three exercises for each Biceps and Tricep. Example would be Bi's: seated alternating dumbell curls, incline hammer curls, preacher curls (each workout change grip from inside to outside). Triceps : rope extension, skull crushers, close grip bench.
Preacher curls yesterday, 100 for 8 reps, not close to DJ's 120 for 8 but I'm doing my best.

That's some good weight you are repping on curls, thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 24, 2018, 12:41:09 PM
Ive been there 8 years, I plan on working there until I'm not enjoying it anymore, but I put in paperwork to be transfered to one of our international ships, I want  to work in Europe or Asia, it will be a major pay cut, the cool thing about working on ships is when you join a new ship it's like starting all over again, you are in a completely new environment and need to learn everything from scratch, not to mention you don't know anyone, which is cool, its like starting a new college or highschool and you're the "new guy."

here you go, something different

(https://www.lonelyplanet.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Seabourn-Cruising-the-Neumar-Channel-e1470754520589.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 24, 2018, 01:18:20 PM
Post your pic pussy but you won't

COWARD

I know you are a fat fuck 10000% sure 😉

Even if I was a fat bloated pig it wouldn't make you any less of a bbc worshiping white trash delusional retard scum.

I get up at 2:30 am to train and put in ten hours of physically demanding work 5-6 days a week.  I can assure you I'm far from fat nor am I jealous of your shitty physique or your rat looking face. You're a middle aged unemployed welfare collecting degenerate living with his mother. Disgusting.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 24, 2018, 01:38:00 PM
sounds like a shit place to take a holiday...
;D haha! I just work there bro!

dj isnt doing 120 for 8 hes full of shit, posts photo shopped pics been on gear for a long time and not much results to speak of.
If its true thats pretty impressive, I'd love to see him post a vid and shut up all the "haters"

How do you know he's 37? Looks more like 27?
;D Not sure about that, but I don't feel like I'm 37, thats the most important thing.

That's some good weight you are repping on curls, thanks for the reply.
No problem, keep it simple dude, a few basic exercises keep the reps between 6-12.

here you go, something different

(https://www.lonelyplanet.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Seabourn-Cruising-the-Neumar-Channel-e1470754520589.jpg)
Fuck no, can't do cold bro, but we do have ships in Alaska, and I heard it's actually very beautiful there, but I need the sun, it's tremendous for overall health and well being.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on January 24, 2018, 01:46:56 PM
;D haha! I just work there bro!
If its true thats pretty impressive, I'd love to see him post a vid and shut up all the "haters"
 ;D Not sure about that, but I don't feel like I'm 37, thats the most important thing.
No problem, keep it simple dude, a few basic exercises keep the reps between 6-12.
Fuck no, can't do cold bro, but we do have ships in Alaska, and I heard it's actually very beautiful there, but I need the sun, it's tremendous for overall health and well being.
[/b]

In Dutchland winters are long, dark, cold and wet. Kind of depressing.
Living in a sunny climate must be great for your mind/mood.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 24, 2018, 01:56:42 PM
Pic just snapped today

AESTHETICS is my middle name
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 24, 2018, 01:57:39 PM
Oh! And there is ZERO pump in that pic 😉
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 24, 2018, 02:03:32 PM
[/b]

In Dutchland winters are long, dark, cold and wet. Kind of depressing.
Living in a sunny climate must be great for your mind/mood.

What's holding you back from migration from out shit hole country? family? economics?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 24, 2018, 02:25:44 PM
Oh! And there is ZERO pump in that pic 😉

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637336.0;attach=745987;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=755526;image)

Wow, what a difference from your other pics.  ::)

Everytime you start a new drug you tell us how amazing you'll look and everytime you either look the same or worse...

So the old pics are with the black phone and new with the white yes? It's hard to tell with you constantly posting pics from years ago. Either way no improvement. A couple people here told you  you've gotten bigger but it was only water from the dbol like I've said.

Pathetic...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Zillotch on January 24, 2018, 02:31:55 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637336.0;attach=745987;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=755526;image)

dude is looking more like frank zane, and less like rambo
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 24, 2018, 02:55:34 PM
dude is looking more like frank zane, and less like rambo

Top photo is with a FULL DELT PUMP bottom pic is ZERO  PUMP

Top.pic shirt is covering belly coz my condition at top pic is far off condition at bottom pic
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 24, 2018, 04:01:38 PM
I want to create a certain look

Basically very big arms solid delts but not bigger than my arms as so many fellas have today, the vast majority of guys have delts that are bigger than their arms, and for me that is awful and it shouldn't be that way

P.S. I stopped training legs 6 weeks ago and for back I only do very light pulldown

Just started hitting chest and traps hard this week

For the last 8 weeks I only trained arms hard

I have already said that i worked as fit trainer in USA, so i know what i am doing and i know much more than you bout training that is for damn sure puusy operative

Didn't train 3 or 4 times today, in fact i trained just once and it wasn't even really training so it's my first full day off since i have started the gear

Wonder if i would get even better results if i actually trained my legs chest and back as hard aa i train my bis tris and side and rear delts ???

Arms are almost 17 inches cold

Here are 2 arms @ 17 1/8

So im less than a half inch out..... SOON

So putting a full 2 inches ON EACH ARM is not improvement

Just fuck off pussy

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637336.0;attach=745987;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=755526;image)

Just placed an order for deca and mast so that will be my recomp stack 😎

Got bout 2 more weeks left on dbol then it is recomp time

Weighing bout 173 now and maybe hit 175-76 at the end

So i will end up at 165-170 6% dry

In this pic i am only 156

Just a bit bloated from the dbol

Once I drop it out and add in mast....LOOK OUT

Provirion and mast also do ZERO for me same

You turds have never been this conditioned in your shitty lives EVER so you try and mock it to make yourselves feel better

If you would ever get to this level of conditioning you would have 13 inch arms TOPS

But you couldn't get here no matter how you tried

Why? Because your genetics suck my ass ahahahhhahhahaha

This is me on McDonald's pizza slut ice cream and gummi bears

Maybe i really am a genetic wonder 😎.

Turd of shit chimes in shitty irish pear body that he is lulz

ANGLO-FUCKING-SAXONS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>irish

You know we treat you as subhuman when you mooched your way over to our land of the USA

Shit Irish getting raped and fucked by the WASP for fucking centuries WE OWN YOU ahahhahhahabbahhaba

P.S. Babe Ruth comes from.... GERMAN Stock 😎

Funny thing is Smatt is a eyetalian or even third tier white being of eyetalin ancestry lol

TOP Whites are.... Germanic and Anglo Saxon

One word..... GENETICS

For having such "Pure Caucasian Genetics" you certainly admire black men's bodies alot. Is there something you're trying to tell us?

You are genetic garbage and an absolute fucking joke.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on January 24, 2018, 04:05:39 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637336.0;attach=745987;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=755526;image)

You are genetic garbage and an absolute fucking joke.


You’re being very generous towards him with that Praise.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on January 24, 2018, 05:37:57 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637336.0;attach=745987;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=755526;image)

You are genetic garbage and an absolute fucking joke.


This appears important to you.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 24, 2018, 06:47:29 PM
This appears important to you.

He's a fucking cockroach. If you have something to say, say it.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ESFitness on January 24, 2018, 07:16:05 PM
Pic just snapped today

AESTHETICS is my middle name

Is that an ab? Or a shadow? The top row of abs look as big as your delt for some reason. Are you expanding your ribcage in all these pics?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on January 24, 2018, 07:21:02 PM
DJ looks okay... just saying
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on January 24, 2018, 07:26:35 PM
He's a fucking cockroach. If you have something to say, say it.

I thought I did?  ???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: AbrahamG on January 24, 2018, 08:46:54 PM
DJ looks okay... just saying

Not for abusing anabolics. 
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 24, 2018, 10:00:46 PM
Not for abusing anabolics. 

DJ's receptors went Auschwitz
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 24, 2018, 10:05:59 PM
" Im concentrating on bulking now, looking at building my strength to work the heavy bag, I have a lethal left uppercut/overhand right combo just like my man Julian..."
(http://www.thefightcity.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/julian-jackson-puncher-333.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 25, 2018, 01:15:16 AM
This appears important to you.

Seems pussy turds rape him is jelly of my aesthetic claims I have bad genetics yet fails to produce any photos of himself

Laughable
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 25, 2018, 06:48:38 AM
[/b]

In Dutchland winters are long, dark, cold and wet. Kind of depressing.
Living in a sunny climate must be great for your mind/mood.
It was an absolute game changer for me, better health, mood, general wellness, energy levels, completely changed the qualtiy of my life, being in a nice climate can have tremendous effects on your life dude!
dude is looking more like frank zane, and less like rambo
Nice improvements DJ!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tom joad on January 25, 2018, 07:08:36 AM
It was an absolute game changer for me, better health, mood, general wellness, energy levels, completely changed the qualtiy of my life, being in a nice climate can have tremendous effects on your life dude!

Yes indeed.  That's one of the big reasons why I live in Medellin Colombia (the "City of Eternal Spring") during the dark and dreary North American winters.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 25, 2018, 07:46:51 AM
It was an absolute game changer for me, better health, mood, general wellness, energy levels, completely changed the qualtiy of my life, being in a nice climate can have tremendous effects on your life dude!Nice improvements DJ!

dont get too cocky, you dont want to end up with skin cancer....
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 25, 2018, 08:58:20 AM
It was an absolute game changer for me, better health, mood, general wellness, energy levels, completely changed the qualtiy of my life, being in a nice climate can have tremendous effects on your life dude!Nice improvements DJ!

Thanks brosef
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on January 25, 2018, 09:04:57 AM
dont get too cocky, you dont want to end up with skin cancer....
:D brutal
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on January 25, 2018, 10:30:25 AM
That wasn't meant for you, ugly rat
do you look better?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 25, 2018, 10:34:05 AM
do you look better?

it would help if you actually knew what dj looked like as a baseline.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 25, 2018, 10:34:33 AM
do you look better?

Much better yes. Thank you for asking, gimmick
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on January 25, 2018, 10:37:48 AM
Much better yes. Thank you for asking, gimmick
just asking bro because you seem to mouth off a lot so i just figured you must be like a champion.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on January 25, 2018, 10:39:15 AM
post up your contest pics.  8)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 25, 2018, 10:45:13 AM
just asking bro because you seem to mouth off a lot so i just figured you must be like a champion.

He is a MOUTH all talk and no action

He will never ever post a pic, but his contest pics did get posted by analballslicker and dripping loss cried to have them taken down
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 25, 2018, 10:48:17 AM
He is a MOUTH all talk and no action

He will never ever post a pic, but his contest pics did get posted by analballslicker and dripping loss cried to have them taken down

Only faggs beg for pictures of men
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 25, 2018, 11:43:37 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637113.0;attach=750522;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637113.0;attach=751291;image)

Laughable

Indeed.

Donald, if aesthetics is so important to you why is it you only train a 1/3 of your body? Read what I quoted from your post history again. It clearly shows you've learned absolutely nothing in all these years. I don't know if the few compliments you get are out of pity or some cruel joke. Sad!


Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they d interact with others for the rest of their life.  They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.

Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They re insecure because they re girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesnt cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They re no as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they dont know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attemptint to cure their insecurity , but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 25, 2018, 12:28:55 PM
^^^ Seems someone is a bit obsessed with me

And no you cant suck my dick weirdo
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on January 25, 2018, 12:30:43 PM
^^^ Seems someone is a bit obsessed with me

And no you cant suck my dick weirdo

oh the irony....
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 25, 2018, 12:38:09 PM
Arms are almost 17 inches cold

Here are 2 arms @ 17 1/8

So im less than a half inch out..... SOON
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 25, 2018, 12:47:56 PM

well, my 6.25 inches is only average so he ain't too happy bout it :D i'm only an average white boy... FUCK :'(
big thick c0ck trumps all the rest of that shit  ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Kwon on January 25, 2018, 01:19:24 PM
just asking bro because you seem to mouth off a lot so i just figured you must be like a champion.

He is, he is our dutch champion here on the boards.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ESFitness on January 25, 2018, 01:43:41 PM
Yes indeed.  That's one of the big reasons why I live in Medellin Colombia (the "City of Eternal Spring") during the dark and dreary North American winters.

Ill trade you my place in palm desert for yours for a month lol
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 25, 2018, 01:45:31 PM
Ill trade you my place in palm desert for yours for a month lol
(https://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/imgarcade.com-comment_fiaqvCGfHW5p6Ni6XvqlomhtlYitrn1c.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 27, 2018, 03:12:10 PM
Got the 100's for 10, up 2 reps from last week, slowly getting stronger dudes.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 27, 2018, 03:15:44 PM
but have you got an overhand right like my man Hearns brosef...?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Henda on January 27, 2018, 03:31:22 PM
Got the 100's for 10, up 2 reps from last week, slowly getting stronger dudes.



Video blocked for copyright reasons but very sexy screencap!!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 27, 2018, 03:32:57 PM
i wonder what he did in the video for having it censored

might wanna keep your clothes on next time

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 27, 2018, 03:44:36 PM
i wonder what he did in the video for having it censored

might wanna keep your clothes on next time


;D

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 27, 2018, 03:47:44 PM
Don't you hate training with glasses on? I always put them off
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 27, 2018, 03:49:23 PM
Don't you hate training with glasses on? I always put them off

I like to remember my training sessions, If I take my glasses off it all becomes a blur.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 27, 2018, 03:50:22 PM
Don't you hate training with glasses on? I always put them off
I dont mind it, but the frames have to be tight, or else yes its very annoying.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 27, 2018, 03:50:31 PM
there used to be a time when people with glasses were not allowed inside the gyms
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on January 27, 2018, 03:50:48 PM
;D



Great form and control. All around impressive set.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 27, 2018, 03:58:56 PM
Great form and control. All around impressive set.
Form always comes first, weight means nothing if you aren't doing the exercise correctly.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 27, 2018, 04:02:58 PM
;D


Good set, nice job.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 27, 2018, 04:03:32 PM
Form always comes first, weight means nothing if you aren't doing the exercise correctly.

Would love to spot you on some smith machine squats bro
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 27, 2018, 06:08:38 PM


Nice job finding some contradictory post from 10 years ago
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on January 27, 2018, 06:29:14 PM
Form always comes first, weight means nothing if you aren't doing the exercise correctly.

Don't I know it. Being a 73 year old geezer, I definitely don't and likely can't lift the poundage I once did. My grip is trashed because of arthritis and carpel tunnel, so you won't see me doing the same free weight lifts you do, like those presses, except with really light resistance. What I can do is maintain good form. Never-the-less, what is most important is that I still workout....not ready to join the almost dead. LOL!

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 27, 2018, 11:44:10 PM
I like to remember my training sessions, If I take my glasses off it all becomes a blur.

It could be a great excuse to curl in the squat rack
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on January 27, 2018, 11:48:07 PM
;D



Nicd clean reps. Props.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on January 28, 2018, 12:00:16 AM
Indeed.

Donald, if aesthetics is so important to you why is it you only train a 1/3 of your body? Read what I quoted from your post history again. It clearly shows you've learned absolutely nothing in all these years. I don't know if the few compliments you get are out of pity or some cruel joke. Sad!


Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they d interact with others for the rest of their life.  They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.

Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They re insecure because they re girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesnt cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They re no as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they dont know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attemptint to cure their insecurity , but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males.



Lol hello DP gimmick
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 28, 2018, 12:10:21 AM
Lol hello DP gimmick

Only if you want it so be, but I like his style
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on January 28, 2018, 12:10:57 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637336.0;attach=745987;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=755526;image)

You are genetic garbage and an absolute fucking joke.


Obsessed much?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on January 28, 2018, 12:26:57 AM
Only if you want it so be, but I like his style

 ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 28, 2018, 03:29:53 AM
Lol hello DP gimmick

Hello shlomo.

(https://ekstrabladet.dk/incoming/article4964694.ece/IMAGE_ALTERNATES/relationBig_910/6. krematorium_foto_Lidanflickr.jpg)


Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 28, 2018, 05:38:57 AM
Nice job finding some contradictory post from 10 years ago

i think you will find djs posts do have a naturally reoccurring sequence, go back though his posts, its been the same theme for the last ten years

bulking
boxing
cutting
natty
using gear
natty
bulking
boxing
etc,etc
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 28, 2018, 08:46:28 AM
Good set, nice job.
Thanks dude.

Would love to spot you on some smith machine squats bro
Haha, Smith Machine Squats are very awkward, I actually like front squats.

Don't I know it. Being a 73 year old geezer, I definitely don't and likely can't lift the poundage I once did. My grip is trashed because of arthritis and carpel tunnel, so you won't see me doing the same free weight lifts you do, like those presses, except with really light resistance. What I can do is maintain good form. Never-the-less, what is most important is that I still workout....not ready to join the almost dead. LOL!


Absolutely, at your age you have nothing to prove, I'd focus on strict form, emphasize the negative, and just use machines you can still get an amazing workout on machines. Should look into PRP or Stem Cells, an 88 year old guy at my gym got both of his elbows and knees done with stem cells and he's training like a champion, mostly machines and cable work, but I say him blast out 35 strict push ups a few weeks back and it was truly impressive. But props for still being in the gym at your age putting in work!

i think you will find djs posts do have a naturally reoccurring sequence, go back though his posts, its been the same theme for the last ten years

bulking
boxing
cutting
natty
using gear
natty
bulking
boxing
etc,etc
Also Chinese buffets ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 28, 2018, 09:18:23 AM
Lol hello DP gimmick

that worthless sack of shit is threatened by me coz he thinks i phoned his workplace, so he throws uncalled for attacks on me here

Whats funny is he WOULD NOT say those things to my face, amd if he tried i would physically attack him 😉
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 28, 2018, 09:46:53 AM
that worthless sack of shit is threatened by me coz he thinks i phoned his workplace, so he throws uncalled for attacks on me here

Whats funny is he WOULD NOT say those things to my face, amd if he tried i would physically attack him 😉

One slap in your ugly face and you start crying like a baby, but hey, carry on you fagg  :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on January 28, 2018, 10:10:55 AM
Hello shlomo.

(https://ekstrabladet.dk/incoming/article4964694.ece/IMAGE_ALTERNATES/relationBig_910/6. krematorium_foto_Lidanflickr.jpg)




Nope cant be DP's gimmick.
DP does not have such bad tast.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 28, 2018, 10:16:21 AM
Nope cant be DP's gimmick.
DP does not have such bad tast.

I don't mind to put someone in this oven, but you're right, I won't eat the finished product
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 28, 2018, 10:17:31 AM
One slap in your ugly face and you start crying like a baby, but hey, carry on you fagg  :D

You wish

Worthless sack  of ugly shit

I would love to hurt you
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on January 28, 2018, 10:20:30 AM
You wish

Worthless sack  of ugly shit

I would love to hurt you

Settle down nancy. It is just the internet.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 28, 2018, 10:22:54 AM
You wish

Worthless sack  of ugly shit

I would love to hurt you

Haha sucker, have you already cleaned your shitty Krakow apartment?

Settle down nancy. It is just the internet.

Drama Jane is a dedicated keyboard warrior with homoerotic fantasies
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 28, 2018, 10:25:24 AM
Lol keyboard warrior who took shots from a polish pro and stayed his ground 

I walk the walk dipshit
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 28, 2018, 10:26:31 AM
Haha sucker, have you already cleaned your shitty Krakow apartment?

Drama Jane is a dedicated keyboard warrior with homoerotic fantasies

Thats your moms job shitstain
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 28, 2018, 10:29:16 AM
Lol keyboard warrior who took shots from a polish pro and stayed his ground 

I walk the walk dipshit

Blah, blah, blah... grow up, you ugly delusional anorexic faggot behind a keyboard :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 28, 2018, 10:54:58 AM
Dropping plates couldnt hang with this guy
(https://i2.wp.com/knucklesandgloves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Julian-Jackson.jpg?resize=225%2C300)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 28, 2018, 11:00:15 AM


But I am white, so I beat him in life
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 28, 2018, 03:24:59 PM
But I am white, so I beat him in life
Back gains and  my new toys
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 28, 2018, 03:37:02 PM
wider than heath
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 28, 2018, 03:46:07 PM
wider than heath
Trying to get wider than Columbo ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 28, 2018, 04:19:15 PM
Nope cant be DP's gimmick.
DP does not have such bad tast.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 28, 2018, 05:03:51 PM
interesting photos considering than calvin klein is jewish
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: TheGrinch on January 28, 2018, 05:29:16 PM
high blood pressure of peace
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 28, 2018, 05:30:15 PM
as time goes by and go 4 it is bulking more and more the chances of an ab shot will be slim to none  :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on January 28, 2018, 05:38:55 PM
Back gains and  my new toys

Looks good. How tall are you? 5'8''?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Maddy on January 28, 2018, 05:41:12 PM
i think you will find djs posts do have a naturally reoccurring sequence, go back though his posts, its been the same theme for the last ten years

bulking
boxing
cutting
natty
using gear
natty
bulking
boxing
etc,etc

stalk much
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 28, 2018, 05:49:31 PM
high blood pressure of peace
Bp is 130/80

as time goes by and go 4 it is bulking more and more the chances of an ab shot will be slim to none  :D
Waistline is still tight and visible abs, not shredded, but by no means fat, probably 12-14%
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 28, 2018, 05:50:03 PM
interesting photos considering than calvin klein is jewish

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/VictorRatTrap_p1050309d.jpg)

Good boy.

ratherbebig
ted superset
jago

Thank god hitler lost, where would be without chuck schuldiner? Death is overrated as fuck.

on what? you think with hitler in power and a massive big brother state where the individual have no say or power whatsoever, jews like chuck schuldiner would be free to record and tour with a band called 'death' and songs like 'suicide machine' and 'baptized in blood' ?

fortress entire record collection would consist of wagner and beethoven.


that is if they were able to make any records in the first place.

no steven adler and aerosmith, no chuck schuldiner and death, no david draiman and disturbed, no kevin dubrow and quiet riot, no mike einziger and incubus, no perry farrel and jane's addiction, no marty friedman and megadeth, no scott ian and anthrax, no henry rollins, no ben weinman and dillinger escape plan, no alex skolnick and testament, no evan seinfeld and biohazard and so on

You rats aren't as clever as you think.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 28, 2018, 05:50:49 PM
Looks good. How tall are you? 5'8''?
Thanks man, 5'7 manlet for the win!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 28, 2018, 06:05:47 PM
Back gains and  my new toys
Crazy lat insertions,  do you do a tons of deads?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 28, 2018, 08:20:59 PM
Crazy lat insertions,  do you do a tons of deads?
Actually no, no deadlift other than stiff leg deadlifts on leg day, but back I don't do deads, just rows, pulldowns, pull ups, chins, and nautilus pull over machine.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 28, 2018, 10:10:26 PM
Back gains and  my new toys

Solid back, you should consider switching to the classic class
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: NelsonMuntz on January 29, 2018, 12:30:49 AM
 ;D

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 29, 2018, 06:49:33 AM
Solid back, you should consider switching to the classic class
Thanks, Yes thats the plan.

;D


haha, nice
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 29, 2018, 02:27:58 PM
Slowly progressing
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 29, 2018, 03:15:34 PM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/60d19733206c270958c890a6b1b09cd3/tumblr_p3cank6hBf1wh69nmo1_540.jpg)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/kdtnbt.png)

(https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/yYHmdQsluHm8uRd15vBbt_KkPVw/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/07/30/3/192/1922398/af6d5354bf09a05b_149198167_10/i/Matthew-McConaughey-gave-laugh-Killer-Joe-screening-NYC.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 29, 2018, 03:45:45 PM
Slowly progressing
Nice job, can see added thickness especially in the lower back.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: WalterWhite on January 29, 2018, 05:23:27 PM
Here ya go Nelson. :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: wes on January 29, 2018, 05:58:30 PM
;D


Awesome set dude.........PROPS!!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 29, 2018, 06:16:14 PM
Nice job, can see added thickness especially in the lower back.
Thanks, lots of rows and hyperextensions.

Here ya go Nelson. :D
That guy looks happy to be at work ;D

Awesome set dude.........PROPS!!
Yo!! Thanks Wes!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Kwon on January 30, 2018, 02:27:10 PM
Back gains and  my new toys

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=755693;image)

Biggest 5'6" Italian i've ever seen!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 30, 2018, 03:01:46 PM
how is he going to get through that door  ???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 30, 2018, 03:32:20 PM
Biggest 5'6" Italian i've ever seen!

5'7 dude! ;D
how is he going to get through that door  ???
Sideways entrance of peace, Imaginary lat syndrome of peace ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 30, 2018, 11:29:03 PM
It's leg day bitches! ;D Side note: I think I need to take Dr. JM Blakley's advices, I'm tired of eating dudes.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on January 30, 2018, 11:55:00 PM
Why don't you just up the dose a little ???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 30, 2018, 11:59:44 PM
It's leg day bitches! ;D Side note: I think I need to take Dr. JM Blakley's advices, I'm tired of eating dudes.



I suggest you start eating women...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 31, 2018, 12:55:05 AM
Why don't you just up the dose a little ???

Why should he?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2018, 01:51:34 AM
It's leg day bitches! ;D Side note: I think I need to take Dr. JM Blakley's advices, I'm tired of eating dudes.


Blakely!!!!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 31, 2018, 02:04:13 AM
Blakely!!!!

Did you met him in the gym or at the local gay bar?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2018, 02:44:50 AM
It's leg day bitches! ;D Side note: I think I need to take Dr. JM Blakley's advices, I'm tired of eating dudes.


Get ripped.and dry

Ab skinfold is 4.5 mm will go down to 3 mm

Skinfold on the back of my hand is 1.5 mm so maybe I will even go down to 2 mm😎
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 31, 2018, 02:57:14 AM
DJ giving advice to someone who's superior to him in every possible way, only on Getbig...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: robcguns on January 31, 2018, 03:15:07 AM
Back gains and  my new toys

Very impressive back
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 31, 2018, 03:18:22 AM
Very impressive back

Yes, and as Palumbo use to say "shows are won by the back"
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 31, 2018, 04:28:14 AM
but having a big back doesn't help when you try and throw a left uppercut, overhand right combo like my man Julian Jackson

by the way DJ, that's not anywhere near condition you soft doughy twat.

I look better than that and im 12 weeks out
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 31, 2018, 04:50:05 AM
Yes, and as Palumbo use to say "shows are won by the back"

with back does he mean ass?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on January 31, 2018, 05:24:01 AM
with back does he mean ass?

Of course.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2018, 06:00:52 AM
by the way DJ, that's not anywhere near condition you soft doughy twat.

I look better than that and im 12 weeks out
[/quote

Sure you do ::)  
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 31, 2018, 07:08:52 AM

I suggest you start eating women...
;D I've been hooking up with a new one I met in the gym, Mexicana, good times!

Get ripped.and dry

Ab skinfold is 4.5 mm will go down to 3 mm

Skinfold on the back of my hand is 1.5 mm so maybe I will even go down to 2 mm😎
leaning out dude, nice!

DJ giving advice to someone who's superior to him in every possible way, only on Getbig...
We're all equals on Getbig!

Very impressive back
Thanks bro, it's improving.

Yes, and as Palumbo use to say "shows are won by the back"
Truth

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 31, 2018, 07:13:06 AM
We're all equals on Getbig!

By implying that you're equal to DJ you're lowering yourself big time
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 31, 2018, 07:15:42 AM
By implying that you're equal to DJ you're lowering yourself big time
Dj's and aesthetic God in Poland, crushing Polish hoes from gym to gym, and when he's not hooking up, he's taking down some Chinese food, can't hate on that!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2018, 07:24:14 AM
Dj's and aesthetic God in Poland, crushing Polish hoes from gym to gym, and when he's not hooking up, he's taking down some Chinese food, can't hate on that!

Don't forget Mickey Ds 😎

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 31, 2018, 07:37:46 AM
Don't forget Mickey Ds 😎


Haha, yeah forgot dude ;D Make some videos bro, lets have some fun up in here!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 31, 2018, 07:42:31 AM
Dj's and aesthetic God in Poland, crushing Polish hoes from gym to gym, and when he's not hooking up, he's taking down some Chinese food, can't hate on that!

If that's what you want to believe...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2018, 07:55:03 AM
Haha, yeah forgot dude ;D Make some videos bro, lets have some fun up in here!

I'll see if I can get a decent bi vid to work, hopefully one of my bf will be there to film it for me
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 31, 2018, 08:00:30 AM
.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 31, 2018, 08:00:53 AM
If that's what you want to believe...
Ha ha, honestly I thoroughly enjoy this place, every poster have some interesting/funny qualities about them, Dj is a funny dude, it would be hilarious to see him macking on some Polish hoes. And give us some more bulking tips from Dr. JM Blakely.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 31, 2018, 08:05:24 AM
Ha ha, honestly I thoroughly enjoy this place, every poster have some interesting/funny qualities about them, Dj is a funny dude, it would be hilarious to see him macking on some Polish hoes. And give us some more bulking tips from Dr. JM Blakely.

hes a fucking moron....
he has something seriously wrong with him mentally and shouldn't be encouraged, its like the guys who take the piss out of Genova.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2018, 08:08:35 AM
Blakely said that when cutting you only need 100pro grams and that is more than sufficient

When he dieted he only ate 80 grams protein @ 275 pounds bw
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2018, 08:10:20 AM
hes a fucking moron....
he has something seriously wrong with him mentally and shouldn't be encouraged, its like the guys who take the piss out of Genova.

You have ZERO CLUE about how I am irl

But keep obsessing and thinking about me you fucking weirdo
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 31, 2018, 08:14:26 AM
Blakely said that when cutting you only need 100pro grams and that is more than sufficient

When he dieted he only ate 80 grams protein @ 275 pounds bw
Interesting, with cutting I would assume the opposite, increase the protein a lot more to sustain muscle also keeping you less hungry.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2018, 08:18:55 AM
Interesting, with cutting I would assume the opposite, increase the protein a lot more to sustain muscle also keeping you less hungry.

He believed in keeping carbs high to fuel his heavy intense workouts

Benching over 5 bils for 6 reps with 2 second pause at the chest is pretty heavy
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 31, 2018, 08:19:36 AM
Ha ha, honestly I thoroughly enjoy this place, every poster have some interesting/funny qualities about them, Dj is a funny dude, it would be hilarious to see him macking on some Polish hoes. And give us some more bulking tips from Dr. JM Blakely.

There's a difference between enjoying this place and believing someone because you find that person 'funny', think about that
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 31, 2018, 08:20:34 AM
You have ZERO CLUE about how I am irl

But keep obsessing and thinking about me you fucking weirdo

Which is true, since your postings are full of shit
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 31, 2018, 10:37:38 AM
You have ZERO CLUE about how I am irl

But keep obsessing and thinking about me you fucking weirdo

an unemployed friendless recluse who lives on mummies generosity since he left the USA under a cloud...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2018, 11:10:24 AM
an unemployed friendless recluse who lives on mummies generosity since he left the USA under a cloud...

If you knew my x wife you'd leave her too

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 31, 2018, 11:11:40 AM
my ex wife threw me out...


Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 31, 2018, 11:12:02 AM
If you knew my x wife you'd leave her too



That why I call you Drama Jane for a good reason..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2018, 11:38:39 AM


Nice fake quote
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 31, 2018, 12:52:41 PM
Nice fake quote

Still closer to the truth than your bs...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on January 31, 2018, 01:28:18 PM
Douglas, you are actually the person who has "zero clue" about how you are "in real life." This is what keeps you alive. If you were capable of seeing yourself as others do, you would kill yourself immediately.

For you, self-delusion is necessary to the highest degree. It occupies you completely. Without it, you can't exist.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 31, 2018, 02:04:27 PM
Douglas, you are actually the person who has "zero clue" about how you are "in real life." This is what keeps you alive. If you were capable of seeing yourself as others do, you would kill yourself immediately.

For you, self-delusion is necessary to the highest degree. It occupies you completely. Without it, you can't exist.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/IOCXHPvn3WErm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2018, 02:23:33 PM
Douglas, you are actually the person who has "zero clue" about how you are "in real life." This is what keeps you alive. If you were capable of seeing yourself as others do, you would kill yourself immediately.

For you, self-delusion is necessary to the highest degree. It occupies you completely. Without it, you can't exist.

I se myself as a very selfish self entitled self absorbed jerk, who doesn't give q shit about anyone else but himself

So that is self delusional, get the fuck out here with your bullshit shit fer brains
 
But I get it, you have a shit life of your own and you need to constantly insult me and put me down to make yourself feel better dipshit
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on January 31, 2018, 02:30:37 PM
I se myself as a very selfish self entitled self absorbed jerk, who doesn't give q shit about anyone else but himself

So that is self delusional, get the fuck out here with your bullshit shit fer brains
 
But I get it, you have a shit life of your own and you need to constantly insult me and put me down to make yourself feel better dipshit

thats exactly how you come across on here so why would you tell me I have no idea what you are like in real life?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 31, 2018, 02:39:20 PM
I se myself as a very selfish self entitled self absorbed jerk, who doesn't give q shit about anyone else but himself

So that is self delusional, get the fuck out here with your bullshit shit fer brains
 
But I get it, you have a shit life of your own and you need to constantly insult me and put me down to make yourself feel better dipshit

(http://asset.tovima.gr/vimawebstatic//1D34DE0E1840BB59D7858245E711E3A0.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on January 31, 2018, 02:55:45 PM
(http://asset.tovima.gr/vimawebstatic//1D34DE0E1840BB59D7858245E711E3A0.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Irmfried_Eberl.jpg)

(http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/bjprcpsych/206/4/315/F1.large.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 31, 2018, 03:15:12 PM
If you knew my x wife you'd leave her too


She must have been one crazy bitch if you moved to an entirely different country to evade her.
I se myself as a very selfish self entitled self absorbed jerk, who doesn't give q shit about anyone else but himself

So that is self delusional, get the fuck out here with your bullshit shit fer brains
 
But I get it, you have a shit life of your own and you need to constantly insult me and put me down to make yourself feel better dipshit
All jokes aside, thats a terrible way to live bro, you don't care about anyone? Not even you moms, or Doc Blakley?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2018, 03:21:42 PM
She must have been one crazy bitch if you moved to an entirely different country to evade her.All jokes aside, thats a terrible way to live bro, you don't care about anyone? Not even you moms, or Doc Blakley?

Ok, I care about my mom and my dog, but that's it

Doc Blakely is more narcissist than me, he flat out told me "I am THE ALPHA MALE" and he walked very arrogantly lol
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on January 31, 2018, 03:25:42 PM
Ok, I care about my mom and my dog, but that's it

Doc Blakely is more narcissist than me, he flat out told me "I am THE ALPHA MALE" and he walked very arrogantly lol
Well it's good to know you care about someone and a good dog can get a person through a lot of miserable situations.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on January 31, 2018, 03:30:45 PM
I se myself as a very selfish self entitled self absorbed jerk, who doesn't give q shit about anyone else but himself

So that is self delusional, get the fuck out here with your bullshit shit fer brains
 
But I get it, you have a shit life of your own and you need to constantly insult me and put me down to make yourself feel better dipshit

(http://asset.tovima.gr/vimawebstatic//1D34DE0E1840BB59D7858245E711E3A0.jpg)

DJ - Perfect Job for you, Volkswagen are recruiting for more Diesel Fumes Inhalators  ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on January 31, 2018, 03:33:18 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f2/56/9b/f2569bf18cfb03bc71b796b08fc6291d--dr-phil-quotes-funny-sayings.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: funk51 on January 31, 2018, 03:35:35 PM
the only guy who did this feat to the extreme. :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on January 31, 2018, 03:55:05 PM
Well it's good to know you care about someone and a good dog can get a person through a lot of miserable situations.

Prescribed by his psychiatrist.

New Breed of Service Dog: Canine Companions for Psychiatric Patients

https://www.rover.com/blog/new-breed-service-dog-canine-companions-psychiatric-patients/
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on January 31, 2018, 09:23:18 PM
I se myself as a very selfish self entitled self absorbed jerk, who doesn't give q shit about anyone else but himself

So that is self delusional, get the fuck out here with your bullshit shit fer brains

Yes, it is delusional. Obviously you invent absurd flaws ("selfish and self-entitled") which distract from your real flaws.

"I'm not a mediocre bodybuilder, I just get bored so I can't train consistently"

"I'm not a pussy with no desire to fight other competitors, I just love bodybuilding too much to dedicate myself to boxing training. I prefer to pick on drunks at the pub and set up inter-continental challenges on the internet instead."

"Women dont leave me because I'm a degenerate social abortion,  but because I'm too in love with myself."

"I don't treat people like shit because they wouldn't have anything to do with me otherwise, I do it because I 'dont care about them'."

Whenever you look inside, you see only the lies you've created for yourself. They protect you from the pathetic reality.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on January 31, 2018, 09:24:52 PM
Remember when I offered your broke ass 3 gs to compete, by the way? Fourth reminder, now. What contest did you choose?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 02, 2018, 08:18:51 AM
DJ - Perfect Job for you, Volkswagen are recruiting for more Diesel Fumes Inhalators  ;D

(http://media.giphy.com/media/xT9IgqrZ9mkgLAQnok/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 02, 2018, 09:56:47 AM
Never said I was a bodybuilder seepiss

I am a physique artist, not many are more aesthetic than this 😉😉
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 02, 2018, 10:50:10 AM
Never said I was a bodybuilder seepiss

I am a physique artist, not many are more aesthetic than this 😉😉

this kid looks better than you...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cf/9f/ac/cf9fac0e1d01028e8f35ea7aba6da5ce.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 02, 2018, 11:07:42 AM
this kid looks better than you...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cf/9f/ac/cf9fac0e1d01028e8f35ea7aba6da5ce.jpg)

No... He doesnt
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 02, 2018, 11:11:31 AM
No... He doesnt

he has a way more pleasing aesthetic physique than you, its not even up for debate.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 02, 2018, 11:14:09 AM
he has a way more pleasing aesthetic physique than you, its not even up for debate.

Bullshit

My delts are wider and much rounder

My waist is tighter and narrower

And don't even try and talk about arms

You are crazy
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 02, 2018, 11:16:21 AM
Bullshit

My delts are wider and much rounder

My waist is tighter and narrower

And don't even try and talk about arms

You are crazy

I said its not up for discussion...
You have a waist like a woman, wide hips no abs.
You were talking about aesthetics and symmetry , that kid is way more balanced than you...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 02, 2018, 11:30:06 AM
No... He doesnt

Yes he does
You’re blinded by your own delusion

Fact is he has a far better frame & structure
Looks to have decent muscle origins & insertions
Giving him good muscle bellies
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 02, 2018, 03:32:32 PM
I said its not up for discussion...
You have a waist like a woman, wide hips no abs.
You were talking about aesthetics and symmetry , that kid is way more balanced than you...

Wide hips lulz
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 02, 2018, 05:08:03 PM
Dj looking leaner making good progress, easy to maintain with 3 square meals of McDonalds, Chinese Buffet, and canned tuna!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 03, 2018, 12:20:54 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=755900;image)

you taper out at the bottom and have no abs, perfect self ownage....
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 03, 2018, 03:37:14 AM
My abs are OK but I don't give a flying fuck bout them and never train them, if I train them they be very good just like my arms and delts are 😉
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 03, 2018, 03:46:41 AM
Dj looking leaner making good progress, easy to maintain with 3 square meals of McDonalds, Chinese Buffet, and canned tuna!

Don't forget bread and butter

Went to the strippers last night and one gave me a free dance and took off my shirt and COULD NOT keep her hands off of my body 😎

Another said you got a great body I should be paying you

Oh! And at the gym another fella approached me and asked me for advices, so I told him to work.hard on the parts.he wants to focus on and the let the other parts just get worked minimally, and pointed at my legs and said "see I don't really give a flying fuck about them"

Were those good advices in your opinion go Bella eyetalin stallion?
 
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on February 03, 2018, 03:56:01 AM
Don't forget bread and butter

Went to the strippers last night and one gave me a free dance and took off my shirt and COULD NOT keep her hands off of my body 😎

Another said you got a great body I should be paying you

Oh! And at the gym another fella approached me and asked me for advices, so I told him to work.hard on the parts.he wants to focus on and the let the other parts just get worked minimally, and pointed at my legs and said "see I don't really give a flying fuck about them"

Were those good advices in your opinion go Bella eyetalin stallion?
 

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/ddb6692c82eb4263b3c9007fda3a9d43/tumblr_p3kp40SNbZ1wh69nmo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 03, 2018, 04:13:11 AM
Funny thing is, if I did decide to actually take my legs serioussly i would easily put 10 quality pounds on them in under 6 weeks FACT
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 03, 2018, 06:25:43 AM
I have a mean uppercut overhand right combo, like my man Julian...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: hgevoli on February 03, 2018, 07:06:01 AM
Funny thing is, if I did decide to actually take my legs serioussly i would easily put 10 quality pounds on them in under 6 weeks FACT

Do it. Maybe not 10lbs but if you really don’t train legs you’d make some gains in 6 weeks no doubt. Train them hard as hell.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 03, 2018, 07:08:59 AM
Don't forget bread and butter

Went to the strippers last night and one gave me a free dance and took off my shirt and COULD NOT keep her hands off of my body 😎

Another said you got a great body I should be paying you

Oh! And at the gym another fella approached me and asked me for advices, so I told him to work.hard on the parts.he wants to focus on and the let the other parts just get worked minimally, and pointed at my legs and said "see I don't really give a flying fuck about them"

Were those good advices in your opinion go Bella eyetalin stallion?
 
Why you going to strip clubs dude? Go to a nightclub and show off your hard work, mack on some Polish hoes, hit the dancefloor and seduce them with the aesthetics! But advice sounds right, I mean if you dont want to develop something don't train it, makes sense.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 03, 2018, 07:09:35 AM
Do it. Maybe not 10lbs but if you really don’t train legs you’d make some gains in 6 weeks no doubt. Train them hard as hell.
YUP but quality training not stupid quarter reps with too much weight. The Squat is for real men.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 03, 2018, 07:17:50 AM
Traps coming in!

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 03, 2018, 07:25:10 AM
Do it. Maybe not 10lbs but if you really don’t train legs you’d make some gains in 6 weeks no doubt. Train them hard as hell.

dont talk fucking stupid, the moron has been training 30 years.

Hes done...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 03, 2018, 08:49:40 AM
dont talk fucking stupid, the moron has been training 30 years.

Hes done...
Guess you don't squat so maybe you're done
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 03, 2018, 08:52:18 AM
Traps coming in!


your videos are starting to get very Gay.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 03, 2018, 09:00:06 AM
Guess you don't squat so maybe you're done

I would love you to explain why squats give you bigger and better legs than any other exercise?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 03, 2018, 09:37:47 AM
dont talk fucking stupid, the moron has been training 30 years.

Hes done...

can you try any harder to discourage me?  :D

p.s. it falls on dear ears

if you try to deny i havent made OUTSTANDING progress over the past few months then yoou are either a liar or insane  ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 03, 2018, 09:38:46 AM
Do it. Maybe not 10lbs but if you really don’t train legs you’d make some gains in 6 weeks no doubt. Train them hard as hell.

as a natty i focused on legs for 6 weeks and my bodyweight went up 5 pounds and my bodyfat went down a full 2%
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 03, 2018, 09:39:53 AM
Why you going to strip clubs dude? Go to a nightclub and show off your hard work, mack on some Polish hoes, hit the dancefloor and seduce them with the aesthetics! But advice sounds right, I mean if you dont want to develop something don't train it, makes sense.

i don't want a relationship with a female i hate that shit

just want to use thier bodies TRUTH

btw, you are a sexy as fuck dude :-*
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 03, 2018, 01:08:18 PM
(http://tryimg.com/4/1qwb1.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 03, 2018, 01:14:38 PM
^^ Fuck you






Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: a_pupil on February 03, 2018, 05:13:12 PM
your videos are starting to get very Gay.

and?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 03, 2018, 05:54:46 PM
your videos are starting to get very Gay.
Interesting perspective, thanks for the feedback, what about the traps bro? Are they improving?

i don't want a relationship with a female i hate that shit

just want to use thier bodies TRUTH

btw, you are a sexy as fuck dude :-*
What does picking up girls at a club have to do with relationships, go in there and take over bro, show those Polska's whats up!

and?
Only gay if you want it to be ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Kwon on February 03, 2018, 06:09:31 PM
Traps coming in!



Great added size G4It!

One complaint though, you clips are starting to become a tad straight, bring back the more gay-friendly vids!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 03, 2018, 07:53:40 PM
Great added size G4It!

One complaint though, you clips are starting to become a tad straight, bring back the more gay-friendly vids!
Gotta capitalize and market to all demographics bro!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 03, 2018, 11:15:17 PM
Interesting perspective, thanks for the feedback, what about the traps bro? Are they improving?
What does picking up girls at a club have to do with relationships, go in there and take over bro, show those Polska's whats up!
Only gay if you want it to be ;D

Saw plently of guys fail miserably in that regard

USA black.guy was always making up on dem and failed constant never saw him pull a nice one


Broad shouldered brit had same exp

Blue eyed blond Norway couldn't pull slim.ones so opted for fat ones and puled a few

French guy always always failed lol

These dumb bitches love games and it gives them power to say no
, so.... Fuck them

Scottish guy said don't waste your time mate move to Estonia or Lithuania at least they fuck there
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 03, 2018, 11:23:46 PM
By the way, trying to pick them.up requires time and effort, and is a relationship.of some degree
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 01:05:27 AM
By the way, trying to pick them.up requires time and effort, and is a relationship.of some degree

cant get girls because you are a total prick = pretend to hate having to put the effort in and pretend you have a condition that stops you forming relation ships.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 04, 2018, 01:34:31 AM
cant get girls because you are a total prick = pretend to hate having to put the effort in and pretend you have a condition that stops you forming relation ships.

not exactly

i get into relationships and then i get pissed as fuck when the one i am in the relationship with does not give me attention when i want it, and if they don't give me something i want i can go into narcisstic rage TRUTH

p.s. my mother ALWAYS ALWAYS gives me what i want when i ask for it, mainly money, so it stems from this

oh! and i hate men and i want to beat some TRUTH

why? coz my father desperted me and did not give me shit, and i was NEVER EVER good enough for my uncles

i played ok basketball but not good enough, i was a very good runner but they said running is for pussies and anyone can be good at it if they are dull enough to practice it, and they said bodybuilding is for fuckin queers and those who suck at real sports

and on a side note, 15 now says i can hit 2 bills @ 5-6% without gh, he prescibed test @ 100-150 mg every 5-10 days, 700 winny v, mast as needed and liquid anadrol (i'm done with orals)

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 01:37:52 AM
but at least i can work a heavy bag again...

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 04, 2018, 01:51:49 AM


yep yep

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 04, 2018, 01:54:28 AM
I would love you to explain why squats give you bigger and better legs than any other exercise?
If you don't know now, you'll never know.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 01:57:26 AM
If you don't know now, you'll never know.

Its because you are going to look stupid when you try and explain it, I understand your reluctance.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 04, 2018, 02:34:31 AM
Its because you are going to look stupid when you try and explain it, I understand your reluctance.
OK  ::)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 04, 2018, 02:55:46 AM


"confusion will be my..... EPITAPH"
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 05:43:02 AM
OK  ::)

yep, thought so... ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 04, 2018, 06:22:31 AM
"Be tender with my love;
You know how easy it is to break me
Fanny, be tender with my love,
'Cause it's all that I've got
And my love won't forsake me."

MY HEART.... very DEEP and intelligent individual AM I



"And if want.... I'll take you there"  ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 04, 2018, 06:23:08 AM
yep, thought so... ;)
:-*
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2018, 06:24:21 AM
I would love you to explain why squats give you bigger and better legs than any other exercise?

I can understand your reasoning & it’s hard to fault,
Only let me ask

Has anyone developed leg development to match Platz & Demayo solely from doing leg extensions?

Or chest development to rival Arnold’s & Bertil’s Just from doing pec-dec or just dB flys ?

I doubt it - Though I await to be proved wrong if I am i’ll Have re-evaluate my own ides.(  ??? Ha. )


Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 04, 2018, 06:30:52 AM
I can understand your reasoning & it’s hard to fault,
Only let me ask

Has anyone developed leg development to match Platz & Demayo solely from doing leg extensions?

Or chest development to rival Arnold’s & Bertil’s Just from doing pec-dec or just dB flys ?

I doubt it - Though I await to be proved wrong if I am i’ll Have re-evaluate my own ides.(  ??? Ha. )



Being honest here i just can't be bothered to get into a discussion with a known troll on here. He knows what i am talking about but maybe He's too weak for heavy squats. Maybe he got injured due to incorrect training form so he feels hostile to squats.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 04, 2018, 06:36:54 AM
Being honest here i just can't be bothered to get into a discussion with a known troll on here. He knows what i am talking about but maybe He's too weak for heavy squats. Maybe he got injured due to incorrect training form so he feels hostile to squats.

quarter squats are good for sport and power but won't do much to increase your leg size

did them to increase my verticle leap and they worked very well, gained no leg size from them though, but wasn't trying though, just wanted to increase power and it did
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 04, 2018, 06:40:52 AM
Being honest here i just can't be bothered to get into a discussion with a known troll on here. He knows what i am talking about but maybe He's too weak for heavy squats. Maybe he got injured due to incorrect training form so he feels hostile to squats.

How do you know he's a troll, having just joined ~2 months ago and only having a handful of posts...? Seems like you have an awful lot of axes to grind even if you were a longtime lurker.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 04, 2018, 07:11:19 AM
How do you know he's a troll, having just joined ~2 months ago and only having a handful of posts...? Seems like you have an awful lot of axes to grind even if you were a longtime lurker.
no axes to grind bro , just training talk. so he is a troll? confirmed what i thought.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 04, 2018, 07:26:21 AM
no axes to grind bro , just training talk. so he is a troll? confirmed what i thought.

Yes, a very effective one. Has made multiple posters melt down like candles in a furnace.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 07:36:13 AM
I can understand your reasoning & it’s hard to fault,
Only let me ask

Has anyone developed leg development to match Platz & Demayo solely from doing leg extensions?

Or chest development to rival Arnold’s & Bertil’s Just from doing pec-dec or just dB flys ?

I doubt it - Though I await to be proved wrong if I am i’ll Have re-evaluate my own ides.(  ??? Ha. )




they developed exceptional legs because it was down to their genetics, some people can squat all their lives and their legs never improve.
The problem I have with squats v intensity is that the low back is likely to give out before you have fully stressed the legs.
the amount of intensity you can put on quads is what will likely make them grow

Squat by all means but I would argue that squats should be done as a core stability exercise rather than a leg exercise, if people thought like that they are less likely to blow a disc.

I have never really done any heavy squats, I used to do heavy leg press but thats it.
I now lift weights less than some of the women in the gym yet my legs are improving at 52 years of age
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 04, 2018, 07:53:05 AM
Yes, a very effective one. Has made multiple posters melt down like candles in a furnace.
well this about training & not Forum games.
they developed exceptional legs because it was down to their genetics, some people can squat all their lives and their legs never improve.
The problem I have with squats v intensity is that the low back is likely to give out before you have fully stressed the legs.
the amount of intensity you can put on quads is what will likely make them grow

Squat by all means but I would argue that squats should be done as a core stability exercise rather than a leg exercise, if people thought like that they are less likely to blow a disc.

I have never really done any heavy squats, I used to do heavy leg press but thats it.
I now lift weights less than some of the women in the gym yet my legs are improving at 52 years of age
If you have never squated heavy you do not understand. Also remember squats come in variations. what can you front squat? I am willing to bet you have never tried these either. Leg press & Hack squat are OK but will never build Quads,Hammies,LOWER BACK like the back squat. You do not understand the squat or it's variations.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 07:58:08 AM
well this about training & not Forum games. If you have never squated heavy you do not understand. Also remember squats come in variations. what can you front squat? I am willing to bet you have never tried these either. Leg press & Hack squat are OK but will never build Quads,Hammies,LOWER BACK like the back squat. You do not understand the squat or it's variations.

I have bulging discs in my low back, I cant squat, the only time I have ever squatted I have ended up injured, I used to do smith machine squats but eventually hurt myself doing them, so rather than spending months every year injured I felt it was more beneficial to eliminate them and train a whole year health.

I have never said squats are not beneficial for leg development Im just saying your muscles have no idea what exercise you are doing they just respond to stimulus applied to them so you can still build legs without squats.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2018, 09:51:58 AM
they developed exceptional legs because it was down to their genetics, some people can squat all their lives and their legs never improve.
The problem I have with squats v intensity is that the low back is likely to give out before you have fully stressed the legs.
the amount of intensity you can put on quads is what will likely make them grow

Squat by all means but I would argue that squats should be done as a core stability exercise rather than a leg exercise, if people thought like that they are less likely to blow a disc.

I have never really done any heavy squats, I used to do heavy leg press but thats it.
I now lift weights less than some of the women in the gym yet my legs are improving at 52 years of age


The part about Platz & Demayo having great leg genetics no doubt true
That isn’t what I was asking though
Would they have achieved the same development from just leg extensions & leg curls
Likewise with the Arnold & Bertil example would they have achieved the same development
From just pec-dec or flyes.

Weight is one factor among many that are Jigsaw puzzle of “weight training/ bodybuilding”

The issues around squats or any other exercise being the cause of injuries is completely different to stimulating muscular growth.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 04, 2018, 10:15:48 AM
I train each muscle every 48 hrs

Is it too often ???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 04, 2018, 10:21:46 AM
I train each muscle every 48 hrs

Is it too often ???

No, you should jump for a train every 48 hrs
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DooM_ on February 04, 2018, 10:45:15 AM
they developed exceptional legs because it was down to their genetics, some people can squat all their lives and their legs never improve.
The problem I have with squats v intensity is that the low back is likely to give out before you have fully stressed the legs.
the amount of intensity you can put on quads is what will likely make them grow

Squat by all means but I would argue that squats should be done as a core stability exercise rather than a leg exercise, if people thought like that they are less likely to blow a disc.

I have never really done any heavy squats, I used to do heavy leg press but thats it.
I now lift weights less than some of the women in the gym yet my legs are improving at 52 years of age

good post
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 11:17:05 AM
no axes to grind bro , just training talk. so he is a troll? confirmed what i thought.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?board=2.0

theres the link to the training section, so goin there if you dont want to debate shit, this is the G&O
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 11:19:32 AM

The part about Platz & Demayo having great leg genetics no doubt true
That isn’t what I was asking though
Would they have achieved the same development from just leg extensions & leg curls
Likewise with the Arnold & Bertil example would they have achieved the same development
From just pec-dec or flyes.

Weight is one factor among many that are Jigsaw puzzle of “weight training/ bodybuilding”

The issues around squats or any other exercise being the cause of injuries is completely different to stimulating muscular growth.

Platz trained balls to the wall on all exercises, maybe squats didnt do that much for his legs , who knows.

TBH, Platz just trained with reckless abandonment and his videos of him training people now are laughable.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2018, 11:29:56 AM
Platz trained balls to the wall on all exercises, maybe squats didnt do that much for his legs , who knows.

TBH, Platz just trained with reckless abandonment and his videos of him training people now are laughable.


Regardless of how Platz trained or anyone else
That’s still not a answer to my questions
Are light weights & isolation exercises totally effective at stimulating muscular growth
An there is no need to do compound movements??
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 04, 2018, 11:34:21 AM

Regardless of how Platz trained or anyone else
That’s still not a answer to my questions
Are light weights & isolation exercises totally effective & there is no need to do compound movements??


I think its more complicated than that. Genetics, everybody is built differently and have slight discrepancies in their form, genetic response to drugs, or just ability to gain muscle in general. You can't narrow it down to one particular of the training system. It's more complex than that, I think.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 11:37:03 AM

Regardless of how Platz trained or anyone else
That’s still not a answer to my questions
Are light weights & isolation exercises totally effective & there is no need to do compound movements??


I would say that although compound exercises work several muscles at the same time, I still believe you can work all those muscles individually and get the same growth.

I press dumbells but get a much better sensation and fatigue the muscle much more with lateral raises.

Take triceps, there are many many ways of exercising the triceps, but at the end of the day its just straightening your arm.
Do skull crushers give you bigger triceps than rope pressdowns?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2018, 11:37:47 AM
I think its more complicated than that. Genetics, everybody is built differently and have slight discrepancies in their form, genetic response to drugs, or just ability to gain muscle in general. You can't narrow it down to one particular of the training system. It's more complex than that, I think.

Agree, I have already stated that.
That Still doesn’t answer my simple questions
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DooM_ on February 04, 2018, 11:47:16 AM

Regardless of how Platz trained or anyone else
That’s still not a answer to my questions
Are light weights & isolation exercises totally effective at stimulating muscular growth
An there is no need to do compound movements??


it's possible to build muscle with light weights and higher volume
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2018, 11:50:44 AM
I would say that although compound exercises work several muscles at the same time, I still believe you can work all those muscles individually and get the same growth.

I press dumbells but get a much better sensation and fatigue the muscle much more with lateral raises.

Take triceps, there are many many ways of exercising the triceps, but at the end of the day its just straightening your arm.
Do skull crushers give you bigger triceps than rope pressdowns?

Again I generally agree.

I don’t agree though that just pec-dec or flyes would have built Arnold’s & Bertil’s chest to the degree they were,
Or that just leg extensions would have resulted in the quads that Platz & Demayo achieved.

What about Dorians / Ronnies back development they could have achieved the same results from
Straight arm pull downs or straight arm pullovers- I don’t think so.

Surely all the above named had all experimented with various different exercises & None of them ended up solely Doing isolation exercises. I wonder why.

There is something extra to doing compound movements with the added weight they allow you to use.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 11:51:51 AM
it's possible to build muscle with light weights and higher volume

probably never touched a weight in their lives let alone a squat.
(http://www.calgaryherald.com/entertainment/theatre/cms/binary/9904455.jpg?size=640x420)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2018, 11:52:11 AM
it's possible to build muscle with light weights and higher volume

Yes it is - correct
Again what you said hasn’t directly answered my questions.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 11:54:43 AM
Again I generally agree.

I don’t agree though that just pec-dec or flyes would have built Arnold’s & Bertil’s chest to the degree they were,
Or that just leg extensions would have resulted in the quads that Platz & Demayo achieved.

What about Dorians / Ronnies back development they could have achieved the same results from
Straight arm pull downs or straight arm pullovers- I don’t think so.

Surely all the above named had all experimented with various different exercises & None of them ended up solely Doing isolation exercises. I wonder why.

There is something extra to doing compound movements with the added weight they allow you to use.

I probably use less weight on legs than 90% of the people at the gym yet my legs are probably in the top 10%

Its not just weight, its intensity, if you can trick a muscle into believing the weight is heavy, then its heavy...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2018, 12:00:51 PM
Clearly no one is going to answer my questions

Let’s leave it at that,
Going round & round & skirting the issue is going no where.

Arnold, Dorian, Ronnie, Demayo, Platz, Bertil All had their training wrong
And wasted years of time when they could have just done isolation exercises  ::)

And I have a bridge for sale & the earth is flat.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 04, 2018, 12:02:01 PM
Maybe the question can't actually be answered with any certainty?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 12:07:31 PM
Clearly no one is going to answer my questions

Let’s leave it at that,
Going round & round & skirting the issue is going no where.

Arnold, Dorian, Ronnie, Demayo, Platz, Bertil All had their training wrong
And wasted years of time when they could have just done isolation exercises  ::)

And I have a bridge for sale & the earth is flat.

I have answered it a few times, I think you can develop a bicep just as well with strict seated dumbell curls just as well as standing barbell curls throwing the weight around with the movement coming from your toes and arching your low back.
Even 1 arm concentration curls, why not if you stress the biceps to failure, its still bicep failure regardless of how many ancillary muscles you use?
At the end of the day you are working biceps.

no ones saying they are wrong, its not a one size fits all strategy to muscle growth.

They all work.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 04, 2018, 12:15:08 PM
Most people don't squat because it's a hard exercise. Truth be told doing a bench is easier from the exertion stand point than most exercises hence it's popularity. Squats are a great exercise but not a necessity. Look at Yates and Dillet.  They used squats and hacks as their main quad exercises.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 12:18:37 PM
Most people don't squat because it's a hard exercise. Truth be told doing a bench is easier from the exertion stand point than most exercises hence it's popularity. Squats are a great exercise but not a necessity. Look at Yates and Dillet.  They used squats and hacks as their main quad exercises.

Yates didnt squat heavy after 88, he always said he didnt rate squats as his main leg builder, he cited injuries from them..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on February 04, 2018, 12:21:25 PM
i dont think its necessary to squat but i dont think leg extensions is enough to replace it.

i also think some squatters have very poor hamstring development.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
I have answered it a few times, I think you can develop a bicep just as well with strict seated dumbell curls just as well as standing barbell curls throwing the weight around with the movement coming from your toes and arching your low back.
Even 1 arm concentration curls, why not if you stress the biceps to failure, its still bicep failure regardless of how many ancillary muscles you use?
At the end of the day you are working biceps.

no ones saying they are wrong, its not a one size fits all strategy to muscle growth.

They all work.


You believe that Arnold & the rest could have achieved the same physiques & Muscular development
From just doing isolation exercises - Thanks for answering.

I disagree & looking at their training routines it’s a fair bet to say they didn’t think they could achieve
The same development from just isolation exercises going To faliure or not.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 12:41:59 PM

You believe that Arnold & the rest could have achieved the same physiques & Muscular development
From just doing isolation exercises - Thanks for answering.

I disagree & looking at their training routines it’s a fair bet to say they didn’t think they could achieve
The same development from just isolation exercises going To faliure or not.

But bodybuilders today carry more muscle than bodybuilders from the 70s
Not a great look for me, but lots of todays pros train nothing like Arnold
Arnold and Co used to train twice a day for 2 hours at a time????
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2018, 12:56:21 PM
But bodybuilders today carry more muscle than bodybuilders from the 70s
Not a great look for me, but lots of todays pros train nothing like Arnold
Arnold and Co used to train twice a day for 2 hours at a time????

They don’t carry more than Dorian & Ronnie
And they didn’t train twice a day 2hrs at a time
And They didn’t exclusively use just isolation exercises to failure.

Do Phil, Kai, Ramy, Dexter, Bonac etc train to failure exclusively on isolation exercises?

If not why not if they can all achieve the same muscular results.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 01:00:12 PM
They don’t carry more than Dorian & Ronnie
And they didn’t train twice a day 2hrs at a time
And They didn’t exclusively use just isolation exercises to failure.

Do Phil, Kai, Ramy, Dexter, Bonac etc train to failure exclusively on isolation exercises?

If not why not if they can all achieve the same muscular results.

people tend to do the exercises they like doing, they all work, no one really does exercises they hate simply because they believe they are going to get them the best gains.
I prefer moderate poundages under full control, I believe that will keep me injury free while still allowing me to progress.

Could I go heavier with a looser form, sure, am I going to get injured , maybe, maybe not...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2018, 01:20:48 PM
people tend to do the exercises they like doing, they all work, no one really does exercises they hate simply because they believe they are going to get them the best gains.
I prefer moderate poundages under full control, I believe that will keep me injury free while still allowing me to progress.

Could I go heavier with a looser form, sure, am I going to get injured , maybe, maybe not...

Wandering off topic with that answer.
So all the top bodybuilders are doing just what exercises they like.
With no rhyme or reason just enjoyment.

I do front squats - T Bar Rows - Deadlifts & I really don’t enjoy them
I do them because they work far better for me than Leg Extensions- Straight arm pull downs - Hyperextension
They are all much easier & comfortable to do - Only they produce less results.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 01:37:29 PM
Wandering off topic with that answer.
So all the top bodybuilders are doing just what exercises they like.
With no rhyme or reason just enjoyment.

I do front squats - T Bar Rows - Deadlifts & I really don’t enjoy them
I do them because they work far better for me than Leg Extensions- Straight arm pull downs - Hyperextension
They are all much easier & comfortable to do - Only they produce less results.

they are doing exercises what work best for them, so yes, I believe they do enjoy doing them, most people who dont enjoy doing something tend to look for ways not to do it.

I enjoy going to the gym to train, back in 96 after I competed it got to the point where I stopped enjoying it, so I stopped going.
If I had to do exercises I didnt like I wouldnt go.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 04, 2018, 02:04:26 PM
Hmmmm.....

Nice way to ignore the elephant in the room

2 of these newer compounds have given these turds 30-40 pounds

Guess which two?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 04, 2018, 02:08:59 PM
I bet Hearns would destroy Arnold
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 04, 2018, 02:29:40 PM
The key to epic gains is sleeping on the floor, preferably with guns and knives surrounding you, really taps into REM sleep and circadian rhythm.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 04, 2018, 03:32:57 PM
The key to epic gains is sleeping on the floor, preferably with guns and knives surrounding you, really taps into REM sleep and circadian rhythm.

Works better than gh and slin ???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 04, 2018, 04:38:00 PM
Works better than gh and slin ???
Not sure, but for sure it's cheaper, no need to spend money on a bedroom set or mattress. Been sleeping on the ground and feel like break dancing when I wake up!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: sceagacros on February 04, 2018, 10:44:21 PM


I do front squats - T Bar Rows - Deadlifts & I really don’t enjoy them
I do them because they work far better for me than Leg Extensions- Straight arm pull downs - Hyperextension
They are all much easier & comfortable to do - Only they produce less results.

Not a bodybuilder, but I will say that years of front squats and Romanian deadlifts, neither of which I particularly enjoy, have given me more return on my investment than any other exercises I can think of - cleans maybe, but I enjoy them so they aren't quite the same. Most of my movements are compounds , I could easily get by with no isolations but hammer curls and rear/side laterals.
I agree that there are many ways to build muscle , but some give more return on your investment for sure.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on February 04, 2018, 11:07:51 PM
Why you going to strip clubs dude? Go to a nightclub and show off your hard work, mack on some Polish hoes, hit the dancefloor and seduce them with the aesthetics! But advice sounds right, I mean if you dont want to develop something don't train it, makes sense.

Are you ever not nice? Does the constant stream of positivity just naturally flow or was it a
conscious decision?

He actually said the whore told him, "I should be paying you?" How many times have you
heard a guy that drips with insecurity say that. Reading his post how could you not feel
like throwing up or at least shaking your head in disgust?

You make me feel like a horrible person. And quit smiling once in a while. Seriously, is life that
good?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: flinstones1 on February 04, 2018, 11:36:25 PM
But bodybuilders today carry more muscle than bodybuilders from the 70s
Not a great look for me, but lots of todays pros train nothing like Arnold
Arnold and Co used to train twice a day for 2 hours at a time????

They don’t carry more muscle. The muscle mass these cats build with gh and insulin is not the same as with steroids. If all the pros came off peptides and could only use AAS I bet the guys from the 70’s and 80’s would carry more lean tissue.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 05, 2018, 12:07:33 AM
Are you ever not nice? Does the constant stream of positivity just naturally flow or was it a
conscious decision?

He actually said the whore told him, "I should be paying you?" How many times have you
heard a guy that drips with insecurity say that. Reading his post how could you not feel
like throwing up or at least shaking your head in disgust?

You make me feel like a horrible person. And quit smiling once in a while. Seriously, is life that
good?

My physique DESTROYS your turtle 🐢 belly

No, I never get any comps on my physique irl lulz

I get comps on a regular basis shitstain


Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 12:12:09 AM
I have decided to do a bodybuilding show, its in 4 weeks, I am now going to start training legs, I will gain 40lbs of lean mass by the weekend

watch out brosefs...

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 05, 2018, 01:19:12 AM
people tend to do the exercises they like doing, they all work, no one really does exercises they hate simply because they believe they are going to get them the best gains.
I prefer moderate poundages under full control, I believe that will keep me injury free while still allowing me to progress.

Could I go heavier with a looser form, sure, am I going to get injured , maybe, maybe not...
utter nonsense you're just rambling on now. Of course you're going to choose the most productive exercises for the best gains.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on February 05, 2018, 01:22:20 AM
My physique DESTROYS your turtle 🐢 belly

No, I never get any comps on my physique irl lulz

I get comps on a regular basis shitstain




Yes, of course. We know that. We all know that. We know that because that's what
you tell us.

You are in your forties telling complete strangers on a message board how much better your body
is than ours are. You are in your forties telling complete strangers on a message board how women
tell you have such a great body. You are in your forties and still live off an allowance that your
mom gives you. Instead of using this free ride to plan for the future you go to the gym three times
a day.

The years go fast. Mommy won't always be around. Fifty years old will come very fast. Then sixy. The body is going to start going down hill no matter what you do.

"What have I done? What have I done with my life."

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 01:22:56 AM
utter nonsense you're just rambling on now. Of course you're going to choose the most productive exercises for the best gains.

I do the exercises I enjoy doing, I may get better results from skull crushers but I don't do them because they hurt my elbows and don't feel right.

I think Im doing OK at 52 even though I seem to be choosing all the wrong exercises, now if I could just convince myself to squat and deadlift I could be a multi Mr O.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 05, 2018, 01:24:38 AM
Penis turtle 🐢

Age doesn't bother me or effect me dummy

Could run a sub 5 minute mile if I trained for it
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 03:12:08 AM
Im going to win a Gold medal at the next Olympics, I just need to find my old training shoes, I will be at world record pace by the end of the week
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 05, 2018, 04:39:49 AM


this tune fits me to a tee with the ladies

You've got to find
Someone else to somehow take my place
Share his life with you, woah oh
But if you need a friend
You can always count on me
Count on me 'cause
I love you
You know I do
You love me too

perfect, saying hey girl i like you and can be good to you and treat you well like the cool dude that i am, but it will never be too close and we gotta keep it laid back and easy ;)



again

It's important to me
That you know you are free
Cause I never want to make you change for me
 

Think of me
You know that I'd be with you if I could
I'll come around to see you once in a while
Or if I ever need a reason to smile
And spend the night if you think I should


perfect.... it's important to me that you know you are free, coz i never want to make you change for me

saying the same as above really, ie... let's keep it light and casual 8)



too bad you are trapped inside a relationship be queer, and not a FREE MAN
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on February 05, 2018, 05:07:42 AM
too bad you are trapped inside a relationship be queer, and not a FREE MAN

my mother ALWAYS ALWAYS gives me what i want when i ask for it, mainly money

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 05, 2018, 05:41:41 AM
Glad to see UKJeff's decision to take a breather from the site and rotate accounts resulted in big changes in the long run.  :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 06:51:16 AM
Glad to see UKJeff's decision to take a breather from the site and rotate accounts resulted in big changes in the long run.  :D

Im getting fucked off already, I only came back to do a prep log, but jeez
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 05, 2018, 07:09:37 AM
I do the exercises I enjoy doing, I may get better results from skull crushers but I don't do them because they hurt my elbows and don't feel right.

I think Im doing OK at 52 even though I seem to be choosing all the wrong exercises, now if I could just convince myself to squat and deadlift I could be a multi Mr O.
well you would get more mass from close grip benches rather than skull crusher which takes us back to the point of stimulus..a word you used. so what is your leg routine?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 05, 2018, 07:38:50 AM
Are you ever not nice? Does the constant stream of positivity just naturally flow or was it a
conscious decision?

He actually said the whore told him, "I should be paying you?" How many times have you
heard a guy that drips with insecurity say that. Reading his post how could you not feel
like throwing up or at least shaking your head in disgust?

You make me feel like a horrible person. And quit smiling once in a while. Seriously, is life that
good?
Haha, well DJ was saying he works out purely to get bitches, so whats the point of going through all that training and drugs to go to a strip club or whorehouse where anyone can get laid. But yeah, I'm a positive guy, life's too short to be walking around pissed off, plus dude we're in Hawaii how bad can life be? ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 07:43:59 AM
well you would get more mass from close grip benches rather than skull crusher which takes us back to the point of stimulus..a word you used. so what is your leg routine?
hack squats 40 kilos
Pendulum squats 20 kilos
Leg extensions 40 kilos
standing leg curls 35 k
lying curls 40k
calf raised 100k

now, how big would they be if I was squating 500lb?

now why would you get more mass from close grip bench as opposed to skull crushers??????
Please dont say because you can use more weight...



Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 05, 2018, 07:59:44 AM
well as you pointed out you can´t do skull crushers even with a much lighter weight than Close grip bench press so what is the logical choice? Remember stimulus was your word of choice. Most people can do heavy close grip bench press even with elbow issues unlike skull crushers. Also your legs are not like Tom Platz.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 08:01:40 AM
well as you pointed out you can´t do skull crushers even with a much lighter weight than Close grip bench press so what is the logical choice? Remember stimulus was your word of choice. Most people can do heavy close grip bench press even with elbow issues unlike skull crushers. Also your legs are not like Tom Platz.

neither are anyone elses in the world.


I sense you dont have a fucking clue.

Have you posted a pic yet?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 05, 2018, 08:04:01 AM
neither are anyone elses in the world.


I sense you dont have a fucking clue.

Have you posted a pic yet?
I am only answering your questions not trolling like you do.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 05, 2018, 08:04:19 AM
hack squats 40 kilos
Pendulum squats 20 kilos
Leg extensions 40 kilos
standing leg curls 35 k
lying curls 40k
calf raised 100k

now, how big would they be if I was squating 500lb?

now why would you get more mass from close grip bench as opposed to skull crushers??????
Please dont say because you can use more weight...




Nice wheels dude!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 05, 2018, 08:08:46 AM
One can only assume that with all your injuries,bulging Disc..etc that you trained incorrectly as a younger guy. This does not mean however that everyone is like you.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 08:29:55 AM
One can only assume that with all your injuries,bulging Disc..etc that you trained incorrectly as a younger guy. This does not mean however that everyone is like you.
no torn body parts, disc injury, also played rugby , I dont think that helped my back

I may have trained incorrectly as a youngster, that why I train correctly now.


again, nice dodge on the pic, you can leave it until 6th August.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on February 05, 2018, 08:58:50 AM
but did you always train like that or did your leg routine look different when you put mass on originally?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 05, 2018, 09:15:10 AM
people who can't squat always put down this mass builder which is one of the most natural lifts you can do. I understand people with injuries avoiding it but healthy people should squat but correctly!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Griffith on February 05, 2018, 09:40:47 AM
hack squats 40 kilos
Pendulum squats 20 kilos
Leg extensions 40 kilos
standing leg curls 35 k
lying curls 40k
calf raised 100k

now, how big would they be if I was squating 500lb?

now why would you get more mass from close grip bench as opposed to skull crushers??????
Please dont say because you can use more weight...





End of discussion.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 05, 2018, 09:57:01 AM
End of discussion.
No this is stimulus..or do you have better legs than Arnold,platz,corney? weak minded people on here who do not have the mindset. A hard set of squats is for men not boys who only train upper body. ...END OF DISCUSSION.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 05, 2018, 10:06:56 AM
No this is stimulus..or do you have better legs than Arnold,platz,corney? weak minded people on here who do not have the mindset. A hard set of squats is for men not boys who only train upper body. ...END OF DISCUSSION.


Chuckles:

 
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Griffith on February 05, 2018, 11:06:48 AM
No this is stimulus..or do you have better legs than Arnold,platz,corney? weak minded people on here who do not have the mindset. A hard set of squats is for men not boys who only train upper body. ...END OF DISCUSSION.


The point is you can also build muscle with lighter weight and higher volume.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 11:33:56 AM
No this is stimulus..or do you have better legs than Arnold,platz,corney? weak minded people on here who do not have the mindset. A hard set of squats is for men not boys who only train upper body. ...END OF DISCUSSION.


post a pic of your legs that heavy squats gave you.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 11:34:47 AM
but did you always train like that or did your leg routine look different when you put mass on originally?

I had muscular legs before I touched a weight, I was aways a good sprinter...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Earl1972 on February 05, 2018, 11:55:31 AM
Haha, well DJ was saying he works out purely to get bitches, so whats the point of going through all that training and drugs to go to a strip club or whorehouse where anyone can get laid. But yeah, I'm a positive guy, life's too short to be walking around pissed off, plus dude we're in Hawaii how bad can life be? ;D

how do you handle lazy and unreliable employees on your ship?  you never lose your cool?

E
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on February 05, 2018, 12:07:21 PM
how do you handle lazy and unreliable employees on your ship?  you never lose your cool?

E

lazy and unrealiable races are not employed
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 05, 2018, 12:10:20 PM
I had muscular legs before I touched a weight, I was aways a good sprinter...
Well most sprinters can squat big weights.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 12:11:01 PM
Well most sprinters can squat big weights.


post a pic or fuck off gimmick..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 05, 2018, 12:15:06 PM
post a pic or fuck off gimmick..
you said you were a sprinter you must know these things. maybe not.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 12:16:34 PM
you said you were a sprinter you must know these things. maybe not.

you have given yorself way now 8 inch not biceps/trainer...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on February 05, 2018, 12:20:55 PM
Haha, well DJ was saying he works out purely to get bitches, so whats the point of going through all that training and drugs to go to a strip club or whorehouse where anyone can get laid. But yeah, I'm a positive guy, life's too short to be walking around pissed off, plus dude we're in Hawaii how bad can life be? ;D

True.

You're a good guy.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on February 05, 2018, 12:21:54 PM
maybe go 4 it is having prozac with each of his 6 daily meals  ???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 05, 2018, 12:23:07 PM
you have given yorself way now 8 inch not biceps/trainer...
I do not understand what you mean but i do understand your lack of knowledge of anatomy & athletics. you were never a sprinter in fact who's leg pictures are you posting? by the way i like your spelling "Yorself"
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 12:29:31 PM
I do not understand what you mean but i do understand your lack of knowledge of anatomy & athletics. you were never a sprinter in fact who's leg pictures are you posting? by the way i like your spelling "Yorself"

Your style is a dead giveaway mate
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=9387;sa=showPosts
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=539981.0
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on February 05, 2018, 12:40:50 PM
I do not understand what you mean but i do understand your lack of knowledge of anatomy & athletics. you were never a sprinter in fact who's leg pictures are you posting? by the way i like your spelling "Yorself"

You seem very knowledgeable but proof is in the puddle. All the talk in the world means nothing unless
backed by real world proof. Why do you keep ignoring the request to post a pic as proof of the validity
of your theories?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 12:48:05 PM
You seem very knowledgeable but proof is in the puddle. All the talk in the world means nothing unless
backed by real world proof. Why do you keep ignoring the request to post a pic as proof of the validity
of your theories?

he only ever posted a pic of a black bodybuilder from the 80s.

Guys a toss pot.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on February 05, 2018, 01:06:43 PM
I had muscular legs before I touched a weight, I was aways a good sprinter...

Why don't you answer the question directly?

I'm assuming you squatted early on, because you cited injuries. So how much did your legs grow from squatting? How much strength did you gain?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 01:17:57 PM
Why don't you answer the question directly?

I'm assuming you squatted early on, because you cited injuries. So how much did your legs grow from squatting? How much strength did you gain?

I have answered the question multiple times, I have only squatted for very short periods and never heavy, they always give me back problems.

FFS how many times do I have to say it

If anyone can provide me with scientific evidence why a squat can give you more muscle growth hwen you muscle has zero idea that you are squatting

If you squat and that is the best way for you to totally stress that muscle then thats fine, if you can use another exercise thats fine as well.

The low back will ALWAYS give out before your thigh's the heavier you go with a bar across your back
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 05, 2018, 01:51:37 PM
Why don't you answer the question directly?

I'm assuming you squatted early on, because you cited injuries. So how much did your legs grow from squatting? How much strength did you gain?
none because he never squated or was a Sprinter.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 01:52:34 PM
none because he never squated or was a Sprinter.

he has however posted a picture.  ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ESFitness on February 05, 2018, 02:14:26 PM
I have answered the question multiple times, I have only squatted for very short periods and never heavy, they always give me back problems.

FFS how many times do I have to say it

If anyone can provide me with scientific evidence why a squat can give you more muscle growth hwen you muscle has zero idea that you are squatting

[youtube]The low back will ALWAYS give out before your thigh's the heavier you go with a bar across your back

Then you arnt squatting properly. Not surprising coming from somebody who believes pushdowns are the only triceps exercise needed for maximum development
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on February 05, 2018, 02:45:02 PM
I am relatively short (177 cm ,5'8 ish ). In business being tall helps. In my country most guys are 6.1 - 6.4. It gives you more presence and people take you more seriously. Makes life easier.I would definitely like to be taller.

Funny thing is that a small percentage of tall guys seem a bit intimidated by short guys. I dont understand why. Maybe because they ran in to some short fuckers with napoleon syndrome when they were just kids lol.

Wish I was a little bit taller, wish I was a baller....


(https://s18.postimg.org/ft6a40btl/220px-_Skee-_Lo_I_Wish.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on February 05, 2018, 02:53:05 PM
The low back will ALWAYS give out before your thigh's the heavier you go with a bar across your back

Thanks for answering the question.

I don't know about this however... It's hard to say what gives out first, but I never felt any muscle fatigue in my low back from squats, so I think it varies by person...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on February 05, 2018, 03:00:27 PM
maybe do something else before squat!!!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 03:10:45 PM
Then you arnt squatting properly. Not surprising coming from somebody who believes pushdowns are the only triceps exercise needed for maximum development
Im trying to leave you alone, kindly return the favour.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 05, 2018, 03:15:11 PM
Thanks for answering the question.

I don't know about this however... It's hard to say what gives out first, but I never felt any muscle fatigue in my low back from squats, so I think it varies by person...
Im talking ruptured discs...

watch this video then ask yourself "why box squat" and then ask yourself just how much pressure is applied to the lumbar spine when you put 300lbs on your back when leaning forward while squatting.
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Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: flinstones1 on February 05, 2018, 03:19:33 PM
I have answered the question multiple times, I have only squatted for very short periods and never heavy, they always give me back problems.

FFS how many times do I have to say it

If anyone can provide me with scientific evidence why a squat can give you more muscle growth hwen you muscle has zero idea that you are squatting

If you squat and that is the best way for you to totally stress that muscle then thats fine, if you can use another exercise thats fine as well.

The low back will ALWAYS give out before your thigh's the heavier you go with a bar across your back

With front squats yes. If your lower back gives out before your legs on a back squat you have something serious going on and shouldn’t be squatting at all...that’s why belt squats are a great excercise for guys with back problems. No load on the spine. The bones remodel themselves the same way muscles do but you don’t get this with machines. That is why everyone needs to use free weights.

To me training for purely cosmetics is a waste of time and leg presses and hack squats can make you grow they don’t really have any carryover to knee health, athletic ability, strengthening connective tissue, etc. I also believe a body built with heavy compound movements flows better than guys who train on machines, you just end up looking like a collection of body parts. If you wanna be that guy with a big back but can’t even deadlift 500  be my guest.

To clarify I’m not saying machines don’t work for hypertrophy.  They can be better from a pure growth perspective ....looking back my chest was fuller when I was strictly training on machines and gave up the 400lb plus benches and heavy dumbell work every week but I just didn’t like the look it gave me or how my body felt. My strength on free weight movements went down quite a bit.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ESFitness on February 05, 2018, 03:22:06 PM
I am relatively short (177 cm ,5'8 ish ). In business being tall helps. In my country most guys are 6.1 - 6.4. It gives you more presence and people take you more seriously. Makes life easier.I would definitely like to be taller.

Funny thing is that a small percentage of tall guys seem a bit intimidated by short guys. I dont understand why. Maybe because they ran in to some short fuckers with napoleon syndrome when they were just kids lol.

Wish I was a little bit taller, wish I was a baller....


(https://s18.postimg.org/ft6a40btl/220px-_Skee-_Lo_I_Wish.jpg)

Its because you sneak up on us and don't notice till we look down.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Taffin on February 05, 2018, 03:22:22 PM
I am relatively short (177 cm ,5'8 ish ). In business being tall helps. In my country most guys are 6.1 - 6.4. It gives you more presence and people take you more seriously. Makes life easier.I would definitely like to be taller.

Yeah, but I've seen your pics and you are f**king jacked Bro.. 100+ kilos, right..?  5'8" with the kind of mass you carry gives you plenty of presence, trust me...  8)

Funny thing is that a small percentage of tall guys seem a bit intimidated by short guys. I dont understand why. Maybe because they ran in to some short fuckers with napoleon syndrome when they were just kids lol.

Stating the uber-obvious - - -  the smaller guy has more to prove and less to lose.... he wins he's a hero, he loses he's a tiger for trying.... 
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 05, 2018, 03:37:33 PM
how do you handle lazy and unreliable employees on your ship?  you never lose your cool?

E
Nah, you can't bro, this is corporate, you lose your cool and the employee runs to HR and you lose your job. I've seen hundreds get terminated here, it's no joke, they have a 3 strike policy, three infractions you're fired, and it's no big deal because they literally have hundreds that are already hired, trained, and certified just waiting for their assignment to come start work, as an employee you're absolutely expendable even at the senior management level, seen dudes in upper management working for the company 20 years get terminated with out hesitation and replaced immediately, the show goes on, real cutthroat shit bro's! Not to mention a real leader never loses his composure always keeps his cool ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Earl1972 on February 05, 2018, 03:56:00 PM
Nah, you can't bro, this is corporate, you lose your cool and the employee runs to HR and you lose your job. I've seen hundreds get terminated here, it's no joke, they have a 3 strike policy, three infractions you're fired, and it's no big deal because they literally have hundreds that are already hired, trained, and certified just waiting for their assignment to come start work, as an employee you're absolutely expendable even at the senior management level, seen dudes in upper management working for the company 20 years get terminated with out hesitation and replaced immediately, the show goes on, real cutthroat shit bro's! Not to mention a real leader never loses his composure always keeps his cool ;)

HR siding with the employee instead of management ???

E
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 05, 2018, 04:07:10 PM
HR siding with the employee instead of management ???

E
Oh yeah dude, they don't want any drama, sensitive times my friend, I've never worked in a corporate environment, completely different world then what I was used to bar and nightclub employment where there is no HR. Not to mention gotta be super cautious about getting a guest complaint, again they always side with the guest, and they don't take kindly to disrespect ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Griffith on February 05, 2018, 09:10:47 PM
I am relatively short (177 cm ,5'8 ish ). In business being tall helps. In my country most guys are 6.1 - 6.4. It gives you more presence and people take you more seriously. Makes life easier.I would definitely like to be taller.

Funny thing is that a small percentage of tall guys seem a bit intimidated by short guys. I dont understand why. Maybe because they ran in to some short fuckers with napoleon syndrome when they were just kids lol.

Wish I was a little bit taller, wish I was a baller....


(https://s18.postimg.org/ft6a40btl/220px-_Skee-_Lo_I_Wish.jpg)

Because at that height you can fill out your frame better and can look much more thicker and muscular.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 06, 2018, 05:48:13 AM
Im talking ruptured discs...

watch this video then ask yourself "why box squat" and then ask yourself just how much pressure is applied to the lumbar spine when you put 300lbs on your back when leaning forward while squatting.
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Ben Johnson one of the best sprinters at the 2:50 mark doing box squats. what is your take on Plyometrics?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 06, 2018, 06:06:48 AM
you are a Brit right? so you must know this guy who was around your time.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 06, 2018, 07:12:23 AM
Ben Johnson one of the best sprinters at the 2:50 mark doing box squats. what is your take on Plyometrics?


Im not engaging with you on any type of intellectual level you fuckwit gimmick twat


Fuck off.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 06, 2018, 07:20:14 AM
Im not engaging with you on any type of intellectual level you fuckwit gimmick twat


Fuck off.
OK so you are now getting angry. I was just proving my point. You must know these things as an ex sprinter. As far as Intellectual goes you are the one being abusive & not willing to engage in a productive discussion. So we will leave it there.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on February 06, 2018, 10:54:08 AM
what proof

lets not confuse lifting for strenght and power with the purpose of building muscle mass.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 06, 2018, 11:12:49 AM
Sprinters need to have a high power to bodyweight ratio, so its not productive for them to carry alot of mass

AJ said that sprinters should develop thier lower body strength and power to the fullest but not to do the same for thier upper body coz the extra upper body size and strength doesn't contribute to their sprinting speed

AJ=highly intelligent individual who hated catholics, he was happy when Kennedy got blasted FACT

http://www.arthurjonesexercise.com/Unpublished/Weigh.pdf
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on February 06, 2018, 11:29:45 AM
Sprinters need to have a high power to bodyweight ratio, so its not productive for them to carry alot of mass

AJ said that sprinters should develop thier lower body strength and power to the fullest but not to do the same for thier upper body coz the extra upper body size and strength doesn't contribute to their sprinting speed

AJ=highly intelligent individual who hated catholics, he was happy when Kennedy got blasted FACT

http://www.arthurjonesexercise.com/Unpublished/Weigh.pdf

He also said, "a man should be able to put food on the table" you dumb nig*er.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on February 06, 2018, 01:47:03 PM
Its because you sneak up on us and don't notice till we look down.


 >:(  >:(
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on February 06, 2018, 01:52:49 PM
Yeah, but I've seen your pics and you are f**king jacked Bro.. 100+ kilos, right..?  5'8" with the kind of mass you carry gives you plenty of presence, trust me...  8)

Thanx bro but I quess I just want to be taller.
No amount of muscle will make me 2 inch taller.











156lbs now btw haha but once upon a long long looooong and forgotten time ago  I did in fact weigh circa muscled 225lbs ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on February 06, 2018, 02:01:47 PM
Its because you sneak up on us and don't notice till we look down.

(https://s18.postimg.org/uam0vza3t/World-leaders-heights-gra-008.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 06, 2018, 02:02:55 PM
Ben Johnson one of the best sprinters at the 2:50 mark doing box squats. what is your take on Plyometrics?


Probably the Best sprinter so far
What with modern fast track surfaces & shoes development
What time could he have run.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 06, 2018, 02:40:00 PM
Everyone want big arms, but nobody want to do no skull crushers ;D

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 06, 2018, 02:42:00 PM
Everyone want big arms, but nobody want to do no skull crushers ;D



he bends his arms, he straightens them out.


well done


Now, how is that any different from a rope pressdown?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 06, 2018, 02:47:12 PM
he bends his arms, he straightens them out.


well done


Now, how is that any different from a rope pressdown?
Not sure, but I feel the biggest pump from these and close grip bench for triceps and preacher curls inside and outside grip for biceps.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on February 06, 2018, 05:38:09 PM
Great control... Did you ever have any injuries, g4pit?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: flinstones1 on February 06, 2018, 05:42:42 PM
Sprinters need to have a high power to bodyweight ratio, so its not productive for them to carry alot of mass

AJ said that sprinters should develop thier lower body strength and power to the fullest but not to do the same for thier upper body coz the extra upper body size and strength doesn't contribute to their sprinting speed

AJ=highly intelligent individual who hated catholics, he was happy when Kennedy got blasted FACT

http://www.arthurjonesexercise.com/Unpublished/Weigh.pdf

Idk man...Ben Johnson benched over 400. Those guys upper
Bodies are pretty yoked
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 06, 2018, 05:58:24 PM
Idk man...Ben Johnson benched over 400. Those guys upper
Bodies are pretty yoked


Johnson had some size but do you know what he weighed?

Under a buck 80

Carl pewis and bolt are pretty skinny in thier arms, same with Lemetrie white FRENCH MAN who is the only white to run the 100 meters in under 10 Second WHITE FRENCH POWER

Btw all 3 of them guys are well over 6 feet, bolt and the French King are 6'3-6'4 😎😎😎
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 06, 2018, 06:45:47 PM
Great control... Did you ever have any injuries, g4pit?
Nothing really dude, I attribute it to a few things, 1-essential fats 2-glucosamine and Msm twice a day 3-swimming a few times a week, I think its great to lengthen the muscles, stretch you out, and keeps the rotator cuffs healthy.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on February 06, 2018, 11:55:10 PM
Nothing really dude, I attribute it to a few things, 1-essential fats 2-glucosamine and Msm twice a day 3-swimming a few times a week, I think its great to lengthen the muscles, stretch you out, and keeps the rotator cuffs healthy.

You can "lengthen' a muscle? Too bad Franco didn't know that. It would have done wonders for his biceps. And imagine Nubret with longer calves? What muscles have you manage to get longer?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 07, 2018, 12:07:54 AM
Not sure, but I feel the biggest pump from these and close grip bench for triceps and preacher curls inside and outside grip for biceps.

fan of preachers myself, also standing cable in the cable crossover station, cant beat them for a great biceps contraction.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on February 07, 2018, 12:23:55 AM
You can "lengthen' a muscle? Too bad Franco didn't know that. It would have done wonders for his biceps. And imagine Nubret with longer calves? What muscles have you manage to get longer?

Pedantry of peace ::)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 07, 2018, 07:05:04 AM
You can "lengthen' a muscle? Too bad Franco didn't know that. It would have done wonders for his biceps. And imagine Nubret with longer calves? What muscles have you manage to get longer?
Well look at swimmers they have long musculature, and look at some bodybuilders that have that tight/bunched up look, I don't know maybe it's bro science, but I actually believe it, feel that swimming gives the body a different look.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2018, 07:10:27 AM
Well look at swimmers they have long musculature, and look at some bodybuilders that have that tight/bunched up look, I don't know maybe it's bro science, but I actually believe it, feel that swimming gives the body a different look.
YES THEY DO...but remember swimmers are 6 feet plus long limbed ,long torso as well no comparioson to bbing 'stretching'muscle'lenghtning,
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 07, 2018, 07:18:49 AM
YES THEY DO...but remember swimmers are 6 feet plus long limbed ,long torso as well no comparioson to bbing 'stretching'muscle'lenghtning,

Sprinters>>>>>>>swimmers
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2018, 07:20:52 AM
Sprinters>>>>>>>swimmers
SPRINTERS/40 YRDERS ARE MORE COMPACT MUSCLE WISE.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 07, 2018, 07:21:23 AM
YES THEY DO...but remember swimmers are 6 feet plus long limbed ,long torso as well no comparioson to bbing 'stretching'muscle'lenghtning,
I'm not just talking about Olympic swimmers, just normal people that are advid swimmers, or even surfers I see out in Hawaii, they paddle all day long to catch waves, their muscles have a certain look to them, also backs are very wide, I just don't like that bodybuilder look that is all tight, bunched up, can't bend their arms type of look.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on February 07, 2018, 12:02:25 PM
I'm not just talking about Olympic swimmers, just normal people that are advid swimmers, or even surfers I see out in Hawaii, they paddle all day long to catch waves, their muscles have a certain look to them, also backs are very wide, I just don't like that bodybuilder look that is all tight, bunched up, can't bend their arms type of look.

are you suggesting phil heath should start surfing?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2018, 02:19:15 PM
Great added size G4It!

One complaint though, you clips are starting to become a tad straight, bring back the more gay-friendly vids!

LOL!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2018, 02:28:10 PM
Not sure, but for sure it's cheaper, no need to spend money on a bedroom set or mattress. Been sleeping on the ground and feel like break dancing when I wake up!


Ancient head support fpr sleeping:

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/15/40/44/15404407b05e490dff70a0dd09370448--ancient-art-ancient-egypt.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 07, 2018, 02:34:10 PM

Ancient head support fpr sleeping:

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/15/40/44/15404407b05e490dff70a0dd09370448--ancient-art-ancient-egypt.jpg)

are you sure its not a butt plug you broke?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2018, 02:39:55 PM
YES THEY DO...but remember swimmers are 6 feet plus long limbed ,long torso as well no comparioson to bbing 'stretching'muscle'lenghtning,

You're exactly right. Most competitive swimmers have physiques that are genetically optimized for swimming. Strong legs, long torso, big wingspan - mine's a little over 6'.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 07, 2018, 02:41:41 PM
You're exactly right. Most competitive swimmers have physiques that are genetically optimized for swimming. Strong legs, long torso, big wingspan - mine's a little over 6'.
arm span tends to be the same as your height
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2018, 02:41:59 PM
are you sure its not a butt plug you broke?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2018, 02:46:16 PM
are you sure its not a butt plug you broke?

Ouch! The thought of it makes me cringe.  ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2018, 02:47:36 PM
arm span tends to be the same as your height

Mine was at one time...a very long time ago.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 07, 2018, 02:53:03 PM
are you suggesting phil heath should start surfing?
Lol, highly unlikely you will catch any bodybuilder surfing, sometimes you're paddling out and waiting for waves for hours, nowhere to keep a shaker cup with Bcaa's and high molecular weight carbohydrates on a board bro.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: wes on February 07, 2018, 03:00:10 PM
hack squats 40 kilos
Pendulum squats 20 kilos
Leg extensions 40 kilos
standing leg curls 35 k
lying curls 40k
calf raised 100k

now, how big would they be if I was squating 500lb?

now why would you get more mass from close grip bench as opposed to skull crushers??????
Please dont say because you can use more weight...




Great quads Jeff..........big props buddy.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 12, 2018, 02:02:40 PM
Still bulking leaving the abs behind 210 or bust  ;D

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 12, 2018, 09:30:39 PM
Still bulking leaving the abs behind 210 or bust  ;D



If you do.get that big you should be benching well over 3 bills
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 12, 2018, 09:40:16 PM
can you take a good body shot, especially one from my man Julian jackson...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 13, 2018, 01:27:49 AM
Still bulking leaving the abs behind 210 or bust  ;D


I bet you suck your own cock bro...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 13, 2018, 07:05:16 AM
If you do.get that big you should be benching well over 3 bills
I would think so, added weight should equal some added strength. You taking out any Polska's for Valentines day?

I bet you suck your own cock bro...
I think Ron Jeremy was known to do that, dudes a legend!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 13, 2018, 07:06:32 AM
haha...you ok Go 4 it....
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 13, 2018, 07:12:24 AM
I would think so, added weight should equal some added strength. You taking out any Polska's for Valentines day?
I think Ron Jeremy was known to do that, dudes a legend!

Fuck no! My one true love is MYSELF

"relationships" are for pussies and fags
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 13, 2018, 07:12:51 AM
haha...you ok Go 4 it....
Fuck yeah dude, Ron Jeremy aka The Hedgehog been banging since the 70's, need to for diet, training, steroids, just show up to the set fat and hairy and do work! Can't hate on that! Also that was before Viagra was invented, gotta give it up to the guy.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 13, 2018, 07:22:30 AM
Fuck no! My one true love is MYSELF

"relationships" are for pussies and fags

Dude, I been hooking up with this girl from my gym, and she keeps calling me her "Swolemate" gotta love these new hashtags! Get one of those girls you train with and make her your Swolemate bro!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 13, 2018, 08:11:47 AM
Dude living the dream, so it seems...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Sexybeast777 on February 13, 2018, 09:53:48 AM
Getting ripped is better than bulking
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on February 13, 2018, 01:54:41 PM
Fuck no! My one true love is MYSELF

"relationships" are for pussies and fags


Your narcissist parody could use some work.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 13, 2018, 02:26:23 PM
Dude living the dream, so it seems...
You have to pursue the things you are passionate about and enjoy in life my bro's. I made a huge decision after college to continue bartending, even though I spent 4 years to get my marketing degree, I knew inside no way in hell I could sit in a cubicle, work in some marketing firm and live that life for 30 plus years. So I followed my heart, even though my parents were super fuckin pissed I just couldn't live that life. Do I make a ton of cash working on a ship? Not really, but I've also come to realize it doesn't really cost a lot of money to do the things I love in life. Only thing I know is I'm the happiest guy out of all my close friends and the dudes I went to college with, am I as rich as them? Absolutely not, but they all tell me the same thing, "you're doing things right" these were the same guys who were making fun of me when I decided not to go into the corporate world. Life is short no fucking way I'm going through this experience miserable and depressed.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Earl1972 on February 13, 2018, 08:57:01 PM
a lot of bartenders are miserable

E
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 13, 2018, 09:26:21 PM
a lot of bartenders are miserable

E
For sure, just depends on the type of bartending you're doing, I mean if you are working at a TGIFridays or some Banquet hall doing service bartending it's probably hell, I worked in some exciting places, started out in college bars, then worked my way up in to nightclubs and really nice martini lounges, but with these types of places you have a shelf life and have to know when your time is up, by 27 I knew I needed to move into something more stable, which is when I went to cruiseship employment, then eventually management, but good thing about ship bartending you can be 60 and still sling cocktails, if you are 30 and bartending in a nightclub you're a senior citizen. But I had a damn good run and enjoyed every minute of it!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 14, 2018, 12:09:30 AM
^^^ Good on you go

You do not follow..... YOU LEAD😎
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 14, 2018, 06:43:02 AM
^^^ Good on you go

You do not follow..... YOU LEAD😎
No doubt, gotta enjoy the ride. Hows the cut going?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 14, 2018, 07:29:10 AM
No doubt, gotta enjoy the ride. Hows the cut going?

Damn good bro
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 14, 2018, 09:30:22 AM
Damn good bro

you have been cutting for 5 months FFS, you had fuck all on you when you started.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 14, 2018, 11:03:24 AM
you have been cutting for 5 months FFS, you had fuck all on you when you started.

5 months more like 4 Weeks chief

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Griffith on February 14, 2018, 11:39:04 AM
What about stretched and looser skin from heavy bulking, is this an issue?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on February 14, 2018, 12:50:34 PM
You have to pursue the things you are passionate about and enjoy in life my bro's. I made a huge decision after college to continue bartending, even though I spent 4 years to get my marketing degree, I knew inside no way in hell I could sit in a cubicle, work in some marketing firm and live that life for 30 plus years. So I followed my heart, even though my parents were super fuckin pissed I just couldn't live that life. Do I make a ton of cash working on a ship? Not really, but I've also come to realize it doesn't really cost a lot of money to do the things I love in life. Only thing I know is I'm the happiest guy out of all my close friends and the dudes I went to college with, am I as rich as them? Absolutely not, but they all tell me the same thing, "you're doing things right" these were the same guys who were making fun of me when I decided not to go into the corporate world. Life is short no fucking way I'm going through this experience miserable and depressed.

Good for you brother. This is why I love to read your posts.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on February 14, 2018, 12:52:55 PM
You have to pursue the things you are passionate about and enjoy in life my bro's. I made a huge decision after college to continue bartending, even though I spent 4 years to get my marketing degree, I knew inside no way in hell I could sit in a cubicle, work in some marketing firm and live that life for 30 plus years. So I followed my heart, even though my parents were super fuckin pissed I just couldn't live that life. Do I make a ton of cash working on a ship? Not really, but I've also come to realize it doesn't really cost a lot of money to do the things I love in life. Only thing I know is I'm the happiest guy out of all my close friends and the dudes I went to college with, am I as rich as them? Absolutely not, but they all tell me the same thing, "you're doing things right" these were the same guys who were making fun of me when I decided not to go into the corporate world. Life is short no fucking way I'm going through this experience miserable and depressed.

Hourly rate not high but I presume you save a lot of money beeing on the ship and working those extended (record breaking) periods?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on February 14, 2018, 01:04:05 PM
go4it got a new tattoo

im not surprised

(http://nextluxury.com/wp-content/uploads/upper-arm-watercolor-out-at-sea-popeye-the-sailor-man-tattoo.jpg)

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 14, 2018, 05:07:49 PM
What about stretched and looser skin from heavy bulking, is this an issue?
Not sure, I would never get to that point, I'm trying to keep "visible" abs as a bulk, I think if the abs are completely gone now you're just becoming a fat guy ;D But I remember Lee Priest would get fat, he would drop 60-70 pounds for a show and never have lose skin so, I'm sure theres other examples as well.

Good for you brother. This is why I love to read your posts.
Thanks bro, I appreciate the kind words.

Hourly rate not high but I presume you save a lot of money beeing on the ship and working those extended (record breaking) periods?
Exactly, you have the ability to save probably 99% of everything if you really try to. So for instance lets say on ship you have a guy making $50,000 on paper thats not really that much, but it's probably equivalent to a guy on land making $80,000-$100,000 because after all the guy on land expenses are paid, (rent/mortgage, car, gas, food, bills) whats left of that in his bank account? Maybe $40,000-$60,000. And whats left in the guy on ships bank account? $47,000-$49,000.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Taffin on February 15, 2018, 09:59:44 AM

That's not Wes?   ???

go4it got a new tattoo

im not surprised

(http://nextluxury.com/wp-content/uploads/upper-arm-watercolor-out-at-sea-popeye-the-sailor-man-tattoo.jpg)


Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on February 15, 2018, 01:57:33 PM
Not sure, I would never get to that point, I'm trying to keep "visible" abs as a bulk, I think if the abs are completely gone now you're just becoming a fat guy ;D But I remember Lee Priest would get fat, he would drop 60-70 pounds for a show and never have lose skin so, I'm sure theres other examples as well.
Thanks bro, I appreciate the kind words.
Exactly, you have the ability to save probably 99% of everything if you really try to. So for instance lets say on ship you have a guy making $50,000 on paper thats not really that much, but it's probably equivalent to a guy on land making $80,000-$100,000 because after all the guy on land expenses are paid, (rent/mortgage, car, gas, food, bills) whats left of that in his bank account? Maybe $40,000-$60,000. And whats left in the guy on ships bank account? $47,000-$49,000.



You save like a champ bro!
I make around $ 90k a year. After tax, bills, food, clothes etc etc ( 3 kids) $ 8k a year is left for saving.  :-X
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on February 15, 2018, 06:35:59 PM
So for instance lets say on ship you have a guy making $50,000 on paper thats not really that much, but it's probably equivalent to a guy on land making $80,000-$100,000 because after all the guy on land expenses are paid, (rent/mortgage, car, gas, food, bills) whats left of that in his bank account? Maybe $40,000-$60,000. And whats left in the guy on ships bank account? $47,000-$49,000.



No taxes?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 19, 2018, 02:09:40 PM
Fuck Presidents Day, It's International Chest Day!

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 19, 2018, 02:14:28 PM
Fuck Presidents Day, It's International Chest Day!



creepy, and very joonish...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 19, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 19, 2018, 02:17:06 PM
Thanks for the update!
;D 197 dude, Dr. Jm Blackley would be disappointed in bulking progress.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Ted SuperSet on February 19, 2018, 02:43:19 PM
;D 197 dude, Dr. Jm Blackley would be disappointed in bulking progress.

197? Crossing the line form aesthetics prince to bulkbox of peace?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on February 19, 2018, 03:29:25 PM
How can you relate to those hormonal underlings around you? I imagine through a lot of very confusing interactions ???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 19, 2018, 04:01:24 PM
creepy, and very joonish...
;D
197? Crossing the line form aesthetics prince to bulkbox of peace?
Most of the weight has gone to my lower body truthfully, but also first time in my life not doing cardio for this long, I'm a huge cardio guy, I'm talking at least 4 times a week or more for life. But still visible abs, not shredded, but not so far along into meatball status.

How can you relate to those hormonal underlings around you? I imagine through a lot of very confusing interactions ???
Confusing interactions? I'm an easy going guy, I just enjoy positive, fun, passionate people, don't really care age, race, where you're from, poor or rich. Just enjoy life dude and the people around you, and in between that get in some epic training sessions and post on Getbig for some laughs!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 19, 2018, 09:07:17 PM
;D 197 dude, Dr. Jm Blackley would be disappointed in bulking progress.

 ;D

As he said carry candy bars on you at all times and and some kind of heavy oil or mayo to everything you eat

Also don't ever drink just water, always drink something with calories in it
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 20, 2018, 05:43:08 AM
;D

As he said carry candy bars on you at all times and and some kind of heavy oil or mayo to everything you eat

Also don't ever drink just water, always drink something with calories in it

Sounds like the quality of his advice is directly proportional to the amount of drugs you are on...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 20, 2018, 05:56:38 AM
Sounds like the quality of his advice is directly proportional to the amount of drugs you are on...
stop stalking people weirdo.. ::)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 20, 2018, 05:57:50 AM
stop stalking people weirdo.. ::)

The irony in this post is suffocating.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on February 20, 2018, 06:01:20 AM
The irony in this post is suffocating.
you already got laughed off your other thread about so called gimmicks...LOL weirdo. A weirdo schmoe.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 20, 2018, 06:12:03 AM
you already got laughed off your other thread about so called gimmicks...LOL weirdo. A weirdo schmoe.

I did? I'll bump that thread every time you try to shadow me. Starting now.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 20, 2018, 07:10:11 AM
Sounds like the quality of his advice is directly proportional to the amount of drugs you are on...

He used to say... "You must bathe the cell in nutrients"
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 20, 2018, 07:34:18 AM
;D

As he said carry candy bars on you at all times and and some kind of heavy oil or mayo to everything you eat

Also don't ever drink just water, always drink something with calories in it
I've been eating 5 Rx Bars in between meals, the girl I've been hooking up with from the gym bought them for me for Valentines day ;D But those things are natural, candy bars have no nutrients bro.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 20, 2018, 07:49:26 AM
I've been eating 5 Rx Bars in between meals, the girl I've been hooking up with from the gym bought them for me for Valentines day ;D But those things are natural, candy bars have no nutrients bro.

combinations of hydrogen carbon and oxygen...its not rocket science mate.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 20, 2018, 08:08:55 AM
I've been eating 5 Rx Bars in between meals, the girl I've been hooking up with from the gym bought them for me for Valentines day ;D But those things are natural, candy bars have no nutrients bro.

It's all bout calories brosef

For breakkie I eat... Cheese with butter melted down by zapping in the microwave and some doughnuts or chocolate cake other meals are similar

Here arm shot taken today, wot u tink bro?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 20, 2018, 08:12:03 AM
combinations of hydrogen carbon and oxygen...its not rocket science mate.
I don't know what that means, only thing I know is I stay the fuck away from sugar, hydrogenated oils, transfats, high fructose corn syrup, or any other food that isn't natural. RxBars are just eggwhites, dates, and nuts. I'll stick with those.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 20, 2018, 08:13:20 AM
It's all bout calories brosef

For breakkie I eat... Cheese with butter melted down by zapping in the microwave and some doughnuts or chocolate cake other meals are similar

Here arm shot taken today, wot u tink bro?

Good separation...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 20, 2018, 08:13:50 AM
It's all bout calories brosef

For breakkie I eat... Cheese with butter melted down by zapping in the microwave and some doughnuts or chocolate cake other meals are similar

Here arm shot taken today, wot u tink bro?
It looks good, quality of photo isn't great, but you said you don't want big arms right? Just big shoulders and chest correct?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 20, 2018, 08:21:14 AM
Good separation...

Thanks dude

It looks good, quality of photo isn't great, but you said you don't want big arms right? Just big shoulders and chest correct?

Don't want big anything just body beautiful is. Sexy shape, detail and separation which... I HAVE
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 20, 2018, 08:26:56 AM
It's all bout calories brosef

For breakkie I eat... Cheese with butter melted down by zapping in the microwave and some doughnuts or chocolate cake other meals are similar

Here arm shot taken today, wot u tink bro?
you need a new phone?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 20, 2018, 08:36:18 AM
you need a new phone?

;D

Have to take the photo from afar in order to get the best lightening

Therefore I had to crop it way down in size in order to "capture the moment" so to speak

Got 3 comps over the last 4 days

I go into the gyms in a track suit top and look like an average dude, but once I peel of that top then its like.... BAM!!! And jaws drop and heads turn and praise comes my way FACT
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 20, 2018, 08:43:46 AM
;D

Have to take the photo from afar in order to get the best lightening

Therefore I had to crop it way down in size in order to "capture the moment" so to speak

Got 3 comps over the last 4 days

I go into the gyms in a track suit top and look like a dirty old man  but once I peel of that top then its like.... BAM!!! , they call the local anorexic hospital and report a missing person

fixed
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 20, 2018, 08:46:58 AM
fixed

My real life experiences indicate otherwise so I will stick to feed back I get IN REAL LIFE

But thanks for trying
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 20, 2018, 09:06:41 AM
My real life experiences indicate otherwise so I will stick to feed back I get IN REAL LIFE

But thanks for trying

your perception of reality is similar to Erics.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 20, 2018, 01:58:00 PM
;D

Have to take the photo from afar in order to get the best lightening

Therefore I had to crop it way down in size in order to "capture the moment" so to speak

Got 3 comps over the last 4 days

I go into the gyms in a track suit top and look like an average dude, but once I peel of that top then its like.... BAM!!! And jaws drop and heads turn and praise comes my way FACT


 ::)  Really !!

This Might Might Just Happen if you Train at The Local Mothercare Gym

Any half reasonable gym with average gym rat physiques
Would - 1 Take zero notice
2. Tell you to eat more food
3. Call / send you to anorexic’s anonymous
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on February 20, 2018, 02:17:00 PM
I've been eating 5 Rx Bars in between meals, the girl I've been hooking up with from the gym bought them for me for Valentines day ;D But those things are natural, candy bars have no nutrients bro.

-Depends on the candy-bar. There's not much nutrition in a Hershey's bar, but there is some. Obviously, the RXBAR  chocolate sea salt blows the Hershey's bar all to hell.

(https://www.rxbar.com/media/catalog/product/cache/image/493x563/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/c/s/css_510x510.jpg)


Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 20, 2018, 09:17:51 PM

 ::)  Really !!

This Might Might Just Happen if you Train at The Local Mothercare Gym

Any half reasonable gym with average gym rat physiques
Would - 1 Take zero notice
2. Tell you to eat more food
3. Call / send you to anorexic’s anonymous

Spoken like a true pear bodied fatty

How wide across are you hips PEAR? LOL
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 20, 2018, 09:38:39 PM
-Depends on the candy-bar. There's not much nutrition in a Hershey's bar, but there is some. Obviously, the RXBAR  chocolate sea salt blows the Hershey's bar all to hell.

(https://www.rxbar.com/media/catalog/product/cache/image/493x563/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/c/s/css_510x510.jpg)



Interesting
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on February 21, 2018, 12:14:06 AM
Spoken like a true pear bodied fatty

How wide across are you hips PEAR? LOL


Unlike yourself I don’t have the need to post pictures
So as I can be praised or Ridiculed

When I wanted to see how good I was I competed
In both Powerlifting & Bodybuilding Winning National Titles
In both & competing internationally

Dream on Boy - Seeking False Addulations
See how good you really are & compete.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on February 21, 2018, 11:33:09 AM
Why do you say "it has no nutrition"?

???

Macronutrients are... nutrients too, are they not?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on February 21, 2018, 01:13:31 PM
;D

Have to take the photo from afar in order to get the best lightening

Therefore I had to crop it way down in size in order to "capture the moment" so to speak

(https://i.redd.it/iecxoxqvtmh01.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Mobil on February 21, 2018, 05:28:12 PM
if your good looking...stay away from bulking(daddy waddy)...lean face gets the girls...lean body and lean face, gets tons of girls.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 25, 2018, 03:21:28 PM
What's holding you back from migration from out shit hole country? family? economics?

Been asking YOU for years why YOU won't leave.....
I know, 'cause you're a sissy  :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 26, 2018, 10:09:54 AM
Been asking YOU for years why YOU won't leave.....
I know, 'cause you're a sissy  :D

Being a reactive person, you're always full of shit or in other words: you've never asked.
You can go back to your grave now, thanks.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: funk51 on February 26, 2018, 10:43:38 AM
a high school kid in the 60's bulked up to over 300 then cut down years later ala bruce randall.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: funk51 on February 26, 2018, 10:45:36 AM
you remember bruce who dropped from 415 lbs down to 220's and won nabba mr universe. :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: BB on February 26, 2018, 10:50:21 AM
Randall snapped back pretty good, but his belly was never the same -

.

Second half has a lot of footage.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: funk51 on February 26, 2018, 11:03:51 AM
Randall snapped back pretty good, but his belly was never the same -

.

Second half has a lot of footage.
:D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Thong Maniac on February 27, 2018, 04:16:36 PM
go for it , your diet is ridiculous bro-logical magazine esq nonsense. Sorry man but if you ate 3 meals a day or even 6 but kept your calories the same with burgers and pasta, you would look the same. Why go thru that agony and OCD shit?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on February 27, 2018, 04:22:42 PM
Randall snapped back pretty good, but his belly was never the same -


I'm surprised it wasn't worse, honestly.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 27, 2018, 04:33:52 PM
go for it , your diet is ridiculous bro-logical magazine esq nonsense. Sorry man but if you ate 3 meals a day or even 6 but kept your calories the same with burgers and pasta, you would look the same. Why go thru that agony and OCD shit?
For 198 pounds, I gotta say I'm in good condition, face is lean, lots of vascularity in the shoulders/arms/quads, I feel good/strong, my energy levels are really good. Not really broscience approach, honestly it's more of a emphasis on healthy foods approach: minimal processed foods, zero transfats, zero high fructose corn syrup, lots of easily digestable foods that allow me to eat high quantities, good amount of fiber, good amount of micronutrients, good amount of essential fatty acids.My elimination process is on point (2 solid dumps a day), minimal to zero bloat, minimal to zero gas.  A broscience diet is pretty much what you are stating: Ihop for breakfast (eggs, pancakes, and bacon), protein shake and muffins pre workout, post workout protein shake and poptarts, hit a Chinese buffet, and maybe a few 5 guys burgers for dinner, if you want a snack maybe a few Pb &J's. Would that approach get size on me faster? Probably, but for sure I would look like a meatball and feel like absolute shit.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Thong Maniac on February 27, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
For 198 pounds, I gotta say I'm in good condition, face is lean, lots of vascularity in the shoulders/arms/quads, I feel good/strong, my energy levels are really good. Not really broscience approach, honestly it's more of a emphasis on healthy foods approach: minimal processed foods, zero transfats, zero high fructose corn syrup, lots of easily digestable foods that allow me to eat high quantities, good amount of fiber, good amount of micronutrients, good amount of essential fatty acids.My elimination process is on point (2 solid dumps a day), minimal to zero bloat, minimal to zero gas.  A broscience diet is pretty much what you are stating: Ihop for breakfast (eggs, pancakes, and bacon), protein shake and muffins pre workout, post workout protein shake and poptarts, hit a Chinese buffet, and maybe a few 5 guys burgers for dinner, if you want a snack maybe a few Pb &J's. Would that approach get size on me faster? Probably, but for sure I would look like a meatball and feel like absolute shit.

You might feel worse, but if calories are the same, you would look exactly as lean as you are now
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on February 27, 2018, 06:30:08 PM
go for it , your diet is ridiculous bro-logical magazine esq nonsense. Sorry man but if you ate 3 meals a day or even 6 but kept your calories the same with burgers and pasta, you would look the same. Why go thru that agony and OCD shit?

Interesting.

When was the last time you were in shape?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 27, 2018, 08:26:52 PM
You might feel worse, but if calories are the same, you would look exactly as lean as you are now
;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 27, 2018, 10:19:32 PM
;D

hes not joking mate...its true...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 28, 2018, 06:58:29 AM
hes not joking mate...its true...
I work on a cruiseship, 90% of the passengers and crew eat the way you guys describe, none of them have a physique I desire, however there is one common denominator I see amongst them, they all seem to have impressive gut development.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 28, 2018, 07:00:14 AM
I work on a cruiseship, 90% of the passengers and crew eat the way you guys describe, none of them have a physique I desire, however there is one common denominator I see amongst them, they all seem to have impressive gut development.
thats because they eat excessive calories, what is you dont get?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on February 28, 2018, 07:37:17 AM
Steve Davis would bulk back in the day.  Not sure how heavy he would get but he looks pretty fat in this shot.  No reason to ever be this fat.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on February 28, 2018, 07:42:42 AM
go for it , your diet is ridiculous bro-logical magazine esq nonsense. Sorry man but if you ate 3 meals a day or even 6 but kept your calories the same with burgers and pasta, you would look the same. Why go thru that agony and OCD shit?

X-FUCKING-ACTLY

it is all gear and training

Diet....baglhahahhhahhha ha
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on February 28, 2018, 08:07:23 AM
so your advice is that if one can pick between two diets - pick the one that is the most unhealthy?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: mazrim on February 28, 2018, 08:13:45 AM
For 198 pounds, I gotta say I'm in good condition, face is lean, lots of vascularity in the shoulders/arms/quads, I feel good/strong, my energy levels are really good. Not really broscience approach, honestly it's more of a emphasis on healthy foods approach: minimal processed foods, zero transfats, zero high fructose corn syrup, lots of easily digestable foods that allow me to eat high quantities, good amount of fiber, good amount of micronutrients, good amount of essential fatty acids.My elimination process is on point (2 solid dumps a day), minimal to zero bloat, minimal to zero gas.  A broscience diet is pretty much what you are stating: Ihop for breakfast (eggs, pancakes, and bacon), protein shake and muffins pre workout, post workout protein shake and poptarts, hit a Chinese buffet, and maybe a few 5 guys burgers for dinner, if you want a snack maybe a few Pb &J's. Would that approach get size on me faster? Probably, but for sure I would look like a meatball and feel like absolute shit.
No, yours is the bro science diet. If you are ok/like it then that is perfectly fine but promoting it as being the only way/magical foods don't allow you to get fat that is complete bro science. Not saying you are doing that but your diet is not based on science, etc.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 28, 2018, 10:29:04 AM
so your advice is that if one can pick between two diets - pick the one that is the most unhealthy?

I would pick the one I liked eating the best....
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 28, 2018, 10:32:59 AM
No, yours is the bro science diet. If you are ok/like it then that is perfectly fine but promoting it as being the only way/magical foods don't allow you to get fat that is complete bro science. Not saying you are doing that but your diet is not based on science, etc.



look at this fucking idiocy
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/animalpak26.htm
Quote
Day 1: Monday

Protein: 340g meat per meal (4 meals with beef, 2 meals with chicken
Carbs: 113g per meal (steamed rice)
Steamed Vegetables: With 4/6 meals

Day 2: Tuesday

Protein: 453g meat per meal (4 meals with beef, 2 meals with chicken)
Carbs: 0g
Steamed Vegetables: With 4/6 meals

Day 3: Wednesday

Protein: 453g meat per meal (4 meals with beef, 2 meals with chicken)
Carbs: 0g
Steamed Vegetables: With 4/6 meals
Day 4: Thursday

Protein: 453g of meat per meal (4 meals with beef, 2 meals with chicken)
Carbs: 0g
Steamed Vegetables: With 4/6 meals

Day 5: Friday

Protein: 340g of meat per meal (4 meals with beef, 2 meals with chicken)
Carbs: 113g per meal (steamed white rice)
Steamed Vegetables: With 4/6 meals

Day 6: Saturday

Protein: 453g of meat per meal (4 meals with beef, 2 meals with chicken)
Carbs: 0g
Steamed Vegetables: With 4/6 meals

Day 7: Sunday

Protein: 453g of meat per meal (4 meals with beef, 2 meals with chicken)
Carbs: 0g
Steamed Vegetables: With 4/6 meals

Day 8: Monday

Protein: 453g of meat per meal (4 meals with beef, 2 meals with chicken)
Carbs: 0g
Steamed Vegetables: With 4/6 meals

Day 9: Repeat

453 gms of meat.

because 455 is too much.... ::)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: BB on February 28, 2018, 11:15:39 AM
Steve Davis would bulk back in the day.  Not sure how heavy he would get but he looks pretty fat in this shot.  No reason to ever be this fat.

I think I remember #265 - #285 being his heaviest range. Draper was another guy that was pretty big.

The old advice (20 years ago) was to say close to the 10-12% bodyfat range when bulking. The logic being that it allowed you to eat and lift well, but wasn't hard to diet off.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on February 28, 2018, 11:17:40 AM
look at this fucking idiocy
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/animalpak26.htm
453 gms of meat.

because 455 is too much.... ::)

453g is one lb.  Looks like the recipe was originally posted using with imperial measurements
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 28, 2018, 11:23:40 AM
453g is one lb.  Looks like the recipe was originally posted using with imperial measurements

who fucking cares, its stupid

why feel the need to be so accurate,. you calorific expenditure is different every day, a change in the weather can effect how many cals you burn...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on February 28, 2018, 11:37:23 AM
I think I remember #265 - #285 being his heaviest range. Draper was another guy that was pretty big.

The old advice (20 years ago) was to say close to the 10-12% bodyfat range when bulking. The logic being that it allowed you to eat and lift well, but was hard to diet off.
That's basically whay Ric Drasin says in his videos as well.  It makes sense.  I bet most people have optimal health and hormonal profile at somewhere around 12% bodyfat.  I have read that if bodyfat is too high or too low, test levels will drop significantly.  12% seems like the best to aim for if you want that "I lift bruh" physique.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on February 28, 2018, 11:42:00 AM
only fat perma bulkers claim 12% is optimal !!

ahahahahahahah!


Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on February 28, 2018, 12:27:28 PM
so your advice is that if one can pick between two diets - pick the one that is the most unhealthy?

Do people still believe that lbs of chicken breast and rice in coconut oil are better for you than burgers and pizza?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 28, 2018, 12:41:36 PM
Do people still believe that lbs of chicken breast and rice in coconut oil are better for you than burgers and pizza?

burger and pizza has more vitamins and minerals...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on February 28, 2018, 12:44:52 PM
Do people still believe that lbs of chicken breast and rice in coconut oil are better for you than burgers and pizza?

youre saying it isnt?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: funk51 on February 28, 2018, 12:52:33 PM
Steve Davis would bulk back in the day.  Not sure how heavy he would get but he looks pretty fat in this shot.  No reason to ever be this fat.
   285 lbs as legend goes
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: funk51 on February 28, 2018, 12:55:24 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on February 28, 2018, 12:56:08 PM
youre saying it isnt?

What makes it better?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: funk51 on February 28, 2018, 12:56:17 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on February 28, 2018, 12:58:11 PM
What makes it better?

what makes one food better than the other is the fat/protein/carbs ratio along with nutritional value

if i woudl to eat a lot of burgers all day, the the wrong type of fats would be through the roof = not good

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on February 28, 2018, 12:58:15 PM
Do people still believe that lbs of chicken breast and rice in coconut oil are better for you than burgers and pizza?

The unsaturated fats in olive oil and coconut oil are definitely be better for your health. The fats in burgers and pizzas are saturated animal fats. Unprocessed rice is better than pizza dough or hamburger buns which usually come from processed wheat flour.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: funk51 on February 28, 2018, 01:00:10 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on February 28, 2018, 01:10:47 PM
burger and pizza has more vitamins and minerals...

Four ounces of chicken breast also supplies 40% of the DRI for vitamin B6 and over 20% of the DRI for choline. In terms of minerals, chicken is richest in selenium and provides about 57% of the DRI in a single 4-ounce serving. Zinc, copper, phosphorus, magnesium, and iron are also provided by this food.

The only mineral you'll get from coconut oil is iron, which is a nutrient that helps with oxygen transportation. Coconut oil contains a miniscule amount of vitamin K, which is a vitamin that helps your blood to clot.

Brown rice contains very healthy amounts of selenium, magnesium, and phosphorus, along with niacin, vitamin B6, and thiamin. ... "Brown rice is superior to white rice when it comes to fiber content, minerals, vitamins, and phytochemicals.

While you might focus on meats as a good source of protein, they also contain a number of essential vitamins and minerals. The vitamins and minerals ... A 100 g portion of beef sirloin contains 22 mg of magnesium, pork has 20 mg, white-meat chicken contains 29 mg and turkey has 28 mg.

Cheese contains the goodness of a number of essential nutrients, including protein, calcium, zinc, phosphorus, magnesium, vitamin A, vitamin B2 (riboflavin) and vitamin B12.

Wheat flour may be a good source of iron, thiamin, niacin, and vitamin B6.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on February 28, 2018, 01:18:19 PM
what makes one food better than the other is the fat/protein/carbs ratio along with nutritional value

if i woudl to eat a lot of burgers all day, the the wrong type of fats would be through the roof = not good


if you ate a lot of anything all day it wouldn't be good for you long term

Then again there are people on TV programmes like "Freaky Eaters" who have eaten nothing but chips for 10 years and they are healthy enough..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on February 28, 2018, 09:01:08 PM
The unsaturated fats in olive oil and coconut oil are definitely be better for your health. The fats in burgers and pizzas are saturated animal fats. Unprocessed rice is better than pizza dough or hamburger buns which usually come from processed wheat flour.

go check the nutrition label in a jar of coconut oil and tell me some more about "unsaturated fats"
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on February 28, 2018, 09:03:47 PM
what makes one food better than the other is the fat/protein/carbs ratio along with nutritional value

if i woudl to eat a lot of burgers all day, the the wrong type of fats would be through the roof = not good



What is the wrong type of fats?

Go4it is pouring refined, liquid saturated fat in his refined with rice and gobbling down mass-farmed diseased chicken flesh until his gut bursts but look out for a slice of pizza!!! That would make him feel "horrible"!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on February 28, 2018, 10:58:47 PM
Fuck yeah bros!

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on February 28, 2018, 11:19:26 PM
Fuck yeah bros!

Quote
The old Romans had a custom which survived even into my lifetime. They would add to the opening words of a letter: "If you are well, it is well; I also am well." Persons like ourselves would do well to say. "If you are studying philosophy, it is well." For this is just what "being well" means. Without philosophy the mind is sickly, and the body, too, though it may be very powerful, is strong only as that of a madman or a lunatic is strong. 2. This, then, is the sort of health you should primarily cultivate; the other kind of health comes second, and will involve little effort, if you wish to be well physically. It is indeed foolish, my dear Lucilius, and very unsuitable for a cultivated man, to work hard over developing the muscles and broadening the shoulders and strengthening the lungs. For although your heavy feeding produce good results and your sinews grow solid, you can never be a match, either in strength or in weight, for a first-class bull. Besides, by overloading the body with food you strangle the soul and render it less active. Accordingly, limit the flesh as much as possible, and allow free play to the spirit. 3. Many inconveniences beset those who devote themselves to such pursuits. In the first place, they have their exercises, at which they must work and waste their life-force and render it less fit to bear a strain or the severer studies. Second, their keen edge is dulled by heavy eating. Besides, they must take orders from slaves of the vilest stamp, – men who alternate between the oil-flask[1] and the flagon, whose day passes satisfactorily if they have got up a good perspiration and quaffed, to make good what they have lost in sweat, huge draughts of liquor which will sink deeper because of their fasting. Drinking and sweating, – it's the life of a dyspeptic![2]

4. Now there are short and simple exercises which tire the body rapidly, and so save our time; and time is something of which we ought to keep strict account. These exercises are running, brandishing weights, and jumping, – high-jumping or broad-jumping, or the kind which I may call, "the Priest's dance,"[3] or, in slighting terms, "the clothes-cleaner's jump."[4] Select for practice any one of these, and you will find it plain and easy. 5. But whatever you do, come back soon from body to mind. The mind must be exercised both day and night, for it is nourished by moderate labour. and this form of exercise need not be hampered by cold or hot weather, or even by old age. Cultivate that good which improves with the years. 6. Of course I do not command you to be always bending over your books and your writing materials; the mind must have a change, – but a change of such a kind that it is not unnerved, but merely unbent. Riding in a litter shakes up the body, and does not interfere with study: one may read, dictate, converse, or listen to another; nor does walking prevent any of these things.

7. You need not scorn voice-culture; but I forbid you to practise raising and lowering your voice by scales and specific intonations. What if you should next propose to take lessons in walking! If you consult the sort of person whom starvation has taught new tricks, you will have someone to regulate your steps, watch every mouthful as you eat, and go to such lengths as you yourself, by enduring him and believing in him, have encouraged his effrontery to go. "What, then?" you will ask; "is my voice to begin at the outset with shouting and straining the lungs to the utmost?" No; the natural thing is that it be aroused to such a pitch by easy stages, just as persons who are wrangling begin with ordinary conversational tones and then pass to shouting at the top of their lungs. No speaker cries "Help me, citizens!" at the outset of his speech. 8. Therefore, whenever your spirit's impulse prompts you, raise a hubbub, now in louder now in milder tones, according as your voice, as well as your spirit, shall suggest to you, when you are moved to such a performance. Then let your voice, when you rein it in and call it back to earth, come down gently, not collapse; it should trail off in tones half way between high and low, and should not abruptly drop from its raving in the uncouth manner of countrymen. For our purpose is, not to give the voice exercise, but to make it give us exercise.

9. You see, I have relieved you of no slight bother; and I shall throw in a little complementary present, – it is Greek, too. Here is the proverb; it is an excellent one: "The fool's life is empty of gratitude and full of fears; its course lies wholly toward the future." "Who uttered these words?" you say. The same writer whom I mentioned before.[5] And what sort of life do you think is meant by the fool's life? That of Baba and Isio?[6] No; he means our own, for we are plunged by our blind desires into ventures which will harm us, but certainly will never satisfy us; for if we could be satisfied with anything, we should have been satisfied long ago; nor do we reflect how pleasant it is to demand nothing, how noble it is to be contented and not to be dependent upon Fortune. 10. Therefore continually remind yourself, Lucilius, how many ambitions you have attained. When you see many ahead of you, think how many are behind! If you would thank the gods, and be grateful for your past life, you should contemplate how many men you have outstripped. But what have you to do with the others? You have outstripped yourself.

11. Fix a limit which you will not even desire to pass, should you have the power. At last, then, away with all these treacherous goods! They look better to those who hope for them than to those who have attained them. If there were anything substantial in them, they would sooner or later satisfy you; as it is, they merely rouse the drinkers' thirst. Away with fripperies which only serve for show! As to what the future's uncertain lot has in store, why should I demand of Fortune that she give rather than demand of myself that I should not crave? And why should l crave? Shall I heap up my winnings, and forget that man's lot is unsubstantial? For what end should I toil? Lo, to-day is the last; if not, it is near the last. Farewell.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 01, 2018, 12:29:54 AM
What is the wrong type of fats?

Go4it is pouring refined, liquid saturated fat in his refined with rice and gobbling down mass-farmed diseased chicken flesh until his gut bursts but look out for a slice of pizza!!! That would make him feel "horrible"!

"his gut bursts"? You have to have a "gut" first before it can burst.

But lol at those busting on this guy and criticizing his diet and approach when he blows everybody
on this thread away physique wise. You all should be picking his brain asking for advice and tips.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 01, 2018, 12:47:04 AM
If all you care about is bodyweight: gaining, losing, maintaining weight; then all that really matters
is calories in/calories out. But if you are also concerned with body composition, health and athletic
performance then your choice of nutrients matters a lot. In that case you can't be just concerned with
calories in but how those calories affect your body once "in". 300 calories of jelly beans will have
a very different effect on your body that 300 calories of, say, oatmeal or a can of tuna. Even your
protein sources will make a difference depending on the time of protein you consume. A recent study
showed how protein from Cod fish lowers the concentration of the inflammatory protein C-reactive protein (CRP). That's something you're not getting from your 80% ground beef.

Go4It is obviously doing something right and many of you reading this use just as much hormones as he does but don't come anywhere near his level of muscularity and condition.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 01, 2018, 12:49:15 AM
If all you care about is bodyweight: gaining, losing, maintaining weight; then all that really matters
is calories in/calories out. But if you are also concerned with body composition, health and athletic
performance then your choice of nutrients matters a lot. In that case you can't be just concerned with
calories in but how those calories affect your body once "in". 300 calories of jelly beans will have
a very different effect on your body that 300 calories of, say, oatmeal or a can of tuna. Even your
protein sources will make a difference depending on the time of protein you consume. A recent study
showed how protein from Cod fish lowers the concentration of the inflammatory protein C-reactive protein (CRP). That's something you're not getting from your 80% ground beef.

Go4It is obviously doing something right and many of you reading this use just as much hormones as he does but don't come anywhere near his level of muscularity and condition.

you are falling into the trap of taking it to extremes
If you are eating 3000 cals and 300 cals of oats is replaced with 300 cals of jelly beans then its not significant

But no one eats exclusively oats or jelly beans
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 01, 2018, 01:58:12 AM
"his gut bursts"? You have to have a "gut" first before it can burst.

But lol at those busting on this guy and criticizing his diet and approach when he blows everybody
on this thread away physique wise. You all should be picking his brain asking for advice and tips.

he said it himself, he has no appetite, he's force-feeding. that's my point.

as for the second point he has good DNA, discipline, takes steroids, and has his priorities straight -- what exactly are we supposed to "pick his brain" for, again... tips ???

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 01, 2018, 11:28:02 AM
you are falling into the trap of taking it to extremes
If you are eating 3000 cals and 300 cals of oats is replaced with 300 cals of jelly beans then its not significant

But no one eats exclusively oats or jelly beans

It's no trap. It's to contradict the notion that all that matters is calories in and calories out. To me
that idea is an extreme over generalization because no one on this board is just concerned about weight per se. Most, probably all, are more concerned about body composition. And I'm sure there are some, like go4it, are also concerned about health.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 01, 2018, 11:35:12 AM
he said it himself, he has no appetite, he's force-feeding. that's my point.

as for the second point he has good DNA, discipline, takes steroids, and has his priorities straight -- what exactly are we supposed to "pick his brain" for, again... tips ???



You don't get to 200lbs at his height by having no appetite. He's just not in the habit of over eating.

Maybe I should have rephrased that "we" to "You" as you seem to lack the knowledge and basic principles of a proper diet evidence by many of your posts having to do with nutrition.

He doesn't have any special DNA or genes. Both of you are ectos. But he does have discipline and straight priorities. Perhaps you can benefit from some "tips" in that regard.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 01, 2018, 11:43:01 AM
It's no trap. It's to contradict the notion that all that matters is calories in and calories out. To me
that idea is an extreme over generalization because no one on this board is just concerned about weight per se. Most, probably all, are more concerned about body composition. And I'm sure there are some, like go4it, are also concerned about health.

check out my diet in my prep thread, heres is an average days food
3 poached eggs 1 toast
4 oatibix
basa fillet with noodles (not nice, wont be having that again, fish tastes like ditch water)
25gms whey shake
2 beef burgers with pasta and tomato
cottage cheese and pastrami wholemeal bread


Now, would I be better eating chicken and rice 5 times a day?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=642239.0
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 01, 2018, 11:45:17 AM
I've been eating 5 Rx Bars in between meals, the girl I've been hooking up with from the gym bought them for me for Valentines day ;D But those things are natural, candy bars have no nutrients bro.

LOL! Why would anyone believe him about his diet when he's openly deceitful about his sexuality and gear use? Whatever happened to the thread where he was outed?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on March 01, 2018, 12:24:33 PM

4 oatibix
basa fillet ditch water)
25gms

 wholemeal bread[/b]


Foreign foreigness of peas
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on March 01, 2018, 12:51:43 PM
why would you have burgers with pasta?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 01, 2018, 01:12:51 PM
why would you have burgers with pasta?

why would you have pasta bolognese . its almost the same thing isnt it?

protein carbs and fats...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Henda on March 01, 2018, 01:37:14 PM
Best thing I ever did was give up trying to eat “clean” shit all the time, used to have fry ups and othe “shit” food at the weekend and try and eat decent through the week then thought fuck it I’m not eating another single thing I don’t enjoy and started eating fried foods and sausage rolls and loads of bags of crisps daily instead, noticed zero difference apart from enjoying food more.

 I remember one day taking my family to the park then to the chip shop but not getting owt for myself and eating chicken and veg when I got home instead, looking back that’s fucking miserable existence and never do shit like that again
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 01, 2018, 01:43:00 PM
Best thing I ever did was give up trying to eat “clean” shit all the time, used to have fry ups and othe “shit” food at the weekend and try and eat decent through the week then thought fuck it I’m not eating another single thing I don’t enjoy and started eating fried foods and sausage rolls and loads of bags of crisps daily instead, noticed zero difference apart from enjoying food more.

 I remember one day taking my family to the park then to the chip shop but not getting owt for myself and eating chicken and veg when I got home instead, looking back that’s fucking miserable existence and never do shit like that again

this guy takes his kids to McDonald's and eats his prepped chicken and rice while they have burgers
Oh. and its not when hes cutting, he doesnt cut.

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Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Henda on March 01, 2018, 01:47:31 PM
this guy takes his kids to McDonald's and eats his prepped chicken and rice while they have burgers
Oh. and its not when hes cutting, he doesnt cut.

(https://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/uploads/monthly_2017_02/crossland.jpg.dc5d6af5cad48331bb6d740c024130e5.jpg)
Haha what the fuck are people like him doing to eat clean and be on shitloads of gear and still be fucking fat?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on March 01, 2018, 01:49:41 PM
Health of peace

(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8011750.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/PAY-Dave-Crosland.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Henda on March 01, 2018, 01:55:54 PM
Health of peace

(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8011750.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/PAY-Dave-Crosland.jpg)

Did he completely forgo training the torso?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 01, 2018, 04:56:43 PM
this guy takes his kids to McDonald's and eats his prepped chicken and rice while they have burgers
Oh. and its not when hes cutting, he doesnt cut.

(https://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/uploads/monthly_2017_02/crossland.jpg.dc5d6af5cad48331bb6d740c024130e5.jpg)

Big, but still sad; the archetype of a biggorexic..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 01, 2018, 06:52:21 PM
Best thing I ever did was give up trying to eat “clean” shit all the time, used to have fry ups and othe “shit” food at the weekend and try and eat decent through the week then thought fuck it I’m not eating another single thing I don’t enjoy and started eating fried foods and sausage rolls and loads of bags of crisps daily instead, noticed zero difference apart from enjoying food more.

I fear for your health  :-\
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 01, 2018, 08:14:32 PM
Hulkster I'm Calling for a Truce! ;D

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 01, 2018, 10:46:59 PM
You don't get to 200lbs at his height by having no appetite. He's just not in the habit of over eating.

Really, and what would you know about it? Have you ever "bulked"?  I have. From lbs 190-260 eating was misery. I joylessly stuffed food down to my disgust every day for several years.

Quote
Maybe I should have rephrased that "we" to "You" as you seem to lack the knowledge and basic principles of a proper diet evidence by many of your posts having to do with nutrition.

Such as ???

Quote
He doesn't have any special DNA or genes.

How would you know? Studied his DNA, have you? Maybe I should take a page from your book and say, "you don't get to look like go4it without good genes".
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 01, 2018, 11:58:18 PM
check out my diet in my prep thread, heres is an average days food
3 poached eggs 1 toast
4 oatibix
basa fillet with noodles (not nice, wont be having that again, fish tastes like ditch water)
25gms whey shake
2 beef burgers with pasta and tomato
cottage cheese and pastrami wholemeal bread


Now, would I be better eating chicken and rice 5 times a day?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=642239.0

I don't see how that is germane to the point I was making. You can just as easily ask, "Now, would I be better eating 3 poached eggs 1 toast 5 times a day?

The issue is not about eating the exact same food all day every day. It's about this notion that as long
as you meet your macro nutrient ratio in doesn't matter what those macros are. That if your carbs came from fruits and vegetables as oppose to pop tarts and ice cream. It's true that if you are at a caloric surplus or deficit you will gain or lose weight regardless where those calories come from. But it will make
a huge difference in body composition, health and athletic performance.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 02, 2018, 12:02:29 AM
I don't see how that is germane to the point I was making. You can just as easily ask, "Now, would I be better eating 3 poached eggs 1 toast 5 times a day?

The issue is not about eating the exact same food all day every day. It's about this notion that as long
as you meet your macro nutrient ratio in doesn't matter what those macros are. That if your carbs came from fruits and vegetables as oppose to pop tarts and ice cream. It's true that if you are at a caloric surplus or deficit you will gain or lose weight regardless where those calories come from. But it will make
a huge difference in body composition, health and athletic performance.

see, you are taking it to extremes again, I eat a balanced diet, lots of different combinations of proteins carbs and fats, sure I could eat some fruit and chocolate in place of potatoes, but Im not stupid enough to just eat chocolate all day.

Let me ask you this
If I ate my current diet yet in place of a small amount of noodles or bread I had a square of chocolate instead as long as it was the same calorific value would it alter my body composition?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 02, 2018, 12:04:32 AM
LOL! Why would anyone believe him about his diet when he's openly deceitful about his sexuality and gear use? Whatever happened to the thread where he was outed?

You've never told a lie? If you use steroids would you also tell your mother and children? Even if you say "yes" can you understand why someone would lie? It's not hard to see why someone would lie about their sexuality and drug use (this is no way to imply anything about go4it's sexuality which is meaningless to me) as there is a stigma involving these issues. People will judge him on such issues but lying about that does not preclude his veracity on everything in his life. Lying about his sexuality and/or drug use doesn't automatically translate into lying about what he eats.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on March 02, 2018, 12:05:13 AM
He doesn't have any special DNA or genes.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=444355.0;attach=488423;image)
(http://i66.tinypic.com/kdtnbt.png)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=512604.0;attach=548972;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637656.0;attach=746701;image)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 02, 2018, 12:08:09 AM
Hulkster I'm Calling for a Truce! ;D



For your next video can you mess up your hair. You always look like you just got done doing
a professional modeling photo shoot.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 02, 2018, 12:21:11 AM
Really, and what would you know about it? Have you ever "bulked"?  I have. From lbs 190-260 eating was misery. I joylessly stuffed food down to my disgust every day for several years.

Yes, I have. And I've mentioned numerous times that I found it much harder to try to eat when I wasn't
hungry than not eat when I was hungry. Being stuffed all the time I always felt shitty and nauseated. When
hungry I felt more like a predator always getting the urge to hunt, kill and consume.


Such as ???

I'm not going to search back through your post history.

How would you know? Studied his DANA, have you? Maybe I should take a page from your book and say, "you don't get to look like go4it without good genes".

I base this on a life long experience observing and reading about other human beings. You look at Arnold and Casey Viator at 19 years old and it wouldn't be a stretch that these were gifted human beings in regard to building muscle mass. Go4it is on a different level compared to the average Joe and in the top tier compared to gym rats that is more because of his work ethic and brains than his propensity for putting on muscle mass.
This is not to say he has bad genes, obviously he doesn't, but that doesn't make him gifted either.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 02, 2018, 12:34:03 AM
see, you are taking it to extremes again, I eat a balanced diet, lots of different combinations of proteins carbs and fats, sure I could eat some fruit and chocolate in place of potatoes, but Im not stupid enough to just eat chocolate all day.

Let me ask you this
If I ate my current diet yet in place of a small amount of noodles or bread I had a square of chocolate instead as long as it was the same calorific value would it alter my body composition?

No, you are. You went from posting a relatively varied and balanced diet and then compare that to eating the same thing 5 times a day. That is not a fair comparison.

As far as your example; no, I doubt it would make a whit of difference but, again, that is not what I am talking about. I am referring the the notion that the sources of macros doesn't matter. Now if you start to substitute pizza and burgers, pancake and poptarts, bacon and sweet and sour chicken, milk shakes...
in other words, the typical American diet -- then it would matter if the caloric value was the same.

I think this belief stems from the fact that most people are fat. If you are a fatso and eat a pizza and ice cream for dinner you will wake up in the morning and look in the mirror and you will still be a fatso.
When I eat pizza and ice cream I will put on five pounds overnight and look a noticeably smoother and
bloated. When you are lean things show more readily. I can look noticeably different just as the day goes by
depending on how much I eat and how much water I drink. And I am nowhere near the condition of go4it, or evern you for that matter.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 02, 2018, 12:38:11 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=444355.0;attach=488423;image)
(http://i66.tinypic.com/kdtnbt.png)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=512604.0;attach=548972;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637656.0;attach=746701;image)

LOL! You made me legit LOL.

OK, if you are going to compare a very down to earth, level headed, good natured, fitness fanatic with
a congenital and delusional retard then, yes, you got me.

I concede.

Now I'm going to go through those pics again -- you have no idea how much you lifted my spirits.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 02, 2018, 12:55:58 AM
No, you are. You went from posting a relatively varied and balanced diet and then compare that to eating the same thing 5 times a day. That is not a fair comparison.

As far as your example; no, I doubt it would make a whit of difference but, again, that is not what I am talking about. I am referring the the notion that the sources of macros doesn't matter. Now if you start to substitute pizza and burgers, pancake and poptarts, bacon and sweet and sour chicken, milk shakes...
in other words, the typical American diet -- then it would matter if the caloric value was the same.

I think this belief stems from the fact that most people are fat. If you are a fatso and eat a pizza and ice cream for dinner you will wake up in the morning and look in the mirror and you will still be a fatso.
When I eat pizza and ice cream I will put on five pounds overnight and look a noticeably smoother and
bloated. When you are lean things show more readily. I can look noticeably different just as the day goes by
depending on how much I eat and how much water I drink. And I am nowhere near the condition of go4it, or evern you for that matter.

you are aware that eating the same couple of sources of food are what gurus advise clients to eat

I even posted one earlier from bodybuilding.com
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/animalpak26.htm

eating pizza and ice cream that makes you bloated isnt changing your body composition permanently its just making you hold a bit of water, you can rectify that in 24 hours.

Increasing your body fat changes your body composition not a bit of water retention.
Quote
I am referring the the notion that the sources of macros doesn't matter. Now if you start to substitute pizza and burgers, pancake and poptarts, bacon and sweet and sour chicken, milk shakes...
in other words, the typical American diet -- then it would matter if the caloric value was the same.

You have evidence for this I suppose?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on March 02, 2018, 02:12:25 AM
i agree with foods affecting health and athletic performance.

not sure about the body composition part.

i would add another - how a certain food will make you feel, like afterwards feeling full or whatever and also affecting apetite

if one combination of foods makes you feel better, perform better and have long lasting health benefits then that would be a better choice IMO.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 02, 2018, 02:21:59 AM
i agree with foods affecting health and athletic performance.

not sure about the body composition part.

i would add another - how a certain food will make you feel, like afterwards feeling full or whatever and also affecting apetite

if one combination of foods makes you feel better, perform better and have long lasting health benefits then that would be a better choice IMO.

If I eat fish and chips from the chippie I am full all day...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Henda on March 02, 2018, 02:24:48 AM
If I eat fish and chips from the chippie I am full all day...

Chips are about the hardest thing to eat much of, I have to half a bag with our lass, doubt could finish a full bag
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on March 02, 2018, 02:57:29 AM
If I eat fish and chips from the chippie I am full all day...
you British people eat mostly junk food.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: spiro on March 02, 2018, 04:42:16 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=444355.0;attach=488423;image)
(http://i66.tinypic.com/kdtnbt.png)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=512604.0;attach=548972;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637656.0;attach=746701;image)

Lol that's awesome
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 02, 2018, 08:00:51 AM
you British people eat mostly junk food.

no such thing as junk food, its all just combinations of Hydrogen Carbon oxygen
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on March 02, 2018, 01:58:04 PM
What is the wrong type of fats?

Go4it is pouring refined, liquid saturated fat in his refined with rice and gobbling down mass-farmed diseased chicken flesh until his gut bursts but look out for a slice of pizza!!! That would make him feel "horrible"!

Saturated fats
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 02, 2018, 02:05:55 PM
Saturated fats

Coconut oil is 87% saturated fat...

Thats a superfood apparently...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 02, 2018, 02:08:03 PM
Feels great to eat pizza and chocolate cakes every single day and be 6% bf   8)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 02, 2018, 02:08:59 PM
Feels great to eat pizza and chocolate cakes every single day and be 6% bf   8)

and 3% muscle mass.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 02, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
and 3% muscle mass.

 :-*
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 02, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
:-*

thanks for proving my point...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 02, 2018, 02:11:21 PM
and 3% muscle mass.

Up 10 lbs in 17 days chief

Another 10 will come my way over the next 3-4 weeks  ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on March 02, 2018, 02:12:01 PM
and 3% muscle mass.

That’s a generous over estimation
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 02, 2018, 02:13:24 PM
Up 10 lbs in 17 days chief

Another 10 will come my way over the next 3-4 weeks  ;)

so you must be up over 190 by now, you seem to get lost with all the claims you keep making.

What happened to your leg gains you claimed were going to happen?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 02, 2018, 02:16:20 PM
so you must be up over 190 by now, you seem to get lost with all the claims you keep making.

What happened to your leg gains you claimed were going to happen?

I will post a quad shot in a day or two

Christ! I got great genetics
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 02, 2018, 02:19:34 PM
I will post a frog leg shot in a day or two

Christ! I got shit genetics
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 02, 2018, 02:21:56 PM


;D

I decided to hit rows and legs like I hit arms, well almost....

Anyways I will easily gain another 10 more while staying sub-7

Easy peasy
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on March 02, 2018, 02:25:17 PM
I will post a tooth picks shot in a day or two

Christ! I got some serious delusions & mental heath issues.

Fixed - For Accuracy
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 02, 2018, 02:25:57 PM
;D

I decided to hit rows and legs like I hit arms, well almost....

Anyways I will easily gain another 10 more while staying sub-7

Easy peasy

ANGLO-SAXON/GERMAN genetics ftmtw  8)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 02, 2018, 02:28:17 PM
Fixed - For Accuracy

Nah

Just last week got 2 unsolicited comps regarding my outstanding physique

But yeah I should believe you over my REAL LIFE experiences

If I wanted to compete as a light heavy I would win ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 02, 2018, 03:04:08 PM
Just last week got 2 unsolicited comps regarding my outstanding physique

Hey man can you give me a few tips on being a retarded, impoverished, exercise-addicted, steroid-addled, heinous, lonely, delusional, cowardly 50-year-old piece-of-shit? I'm keen to trade some of my more annoying qualities (not living off my estranged mother's pension, etc.) for several "unsolicited compliments" from autistic kids or bodybuilding degenerates a week. Currently, I only get about three solicited compliments a week, but they're getting harder to drum up. TIA!!!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 02, 2018, 03:05:33 PM

If I wanted to compete as a light heavy I would win ;)

3 grand says you won't, so for the fifth (?) time, set it up.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on March 02, 2018, 03:12:40 PM
Nah

Just last week got 2 unsolicited comps regarding my outstanding physique

But yeah I should believe you over my REAL LIFE experiences

If I wanted to compete as a light heavy I would win ;)
You might win a hotdog eating contest....but with these child bearing hips, you won't be winning any bodybuilding shows.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on March 02, 2018, 04:13:47 PM
I look pretty good I must say ,thinking about flying to UK to challenge be back for the TITLE.and then showing his wife my sexy moves and BOD
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 03, 2018, 12:35:45 AM
I look pretty good I must say ,thinking about flying to UK to challenge be back for the TITLE.and then showing his wife my sexy moves and BOD

 ;D

And look at see piss talking his hateful vicious uncalled for shit

Would be fun to meet him in real, would love to physically harm him and put him in intensive care

See the fear and pain in his eyes, it would be a very beautiful thing  :-*
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 03, 2018, 01:02:06 AM
;D

And look at see piss talking his hateful vicious uncalled for shit

Would be fun to meet him in real, would love to physically harm him and put him in intensive care

See the fear and pain in his eyes, it would be a very beautiful thing  :-*

the reality of the situation
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/12/hulksmash.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 03, 2018, 03:33:48 AM
the reality of the situation
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/12/hulksmash.gif)

Hulk is way too massive ie. Shit aesthetics

Spiderman is... 5'10" 170 diced

IDEAL  8)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: SF1900 on March 03, 2018, 04:46:24 AM
Lol at DJ181 getting destroyed in this thread lol  :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 03, 2018, 04:50:24 AM
Lol at DJ181 getting destroyed in this thread lol  :D

Being mentally ill, he still believes he has god like genetics... :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 03, 2018, 05:54:16 AM
he still believes he has god like genetics because he is mentally ill,. :D

fixed
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 03, 2018, 05:59:57 AM
fixed

Whutever..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 03, 2018, 06:00:24 AM
You've never told a lie? If you use steroids would you also tell your mother and children? Even if you say "yes" can you understand why someone would lie? It's not hard to see why someone would lie about their sexuality and drug use (this is no way to imply anything about go4it's sexuality which is meaningless to me) as there is a stigma involving these issues. People will judge him on such issues but lying about that does not preclude his veracity on everything in his life. Lying about his sexuality and/or drug use doesn't automatically translate into lying about what he eats.

You're right, it doesn't. However, some would say that the legal principle of falsus in uno applies here.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: SF1900 on March 03, 2018, 06:20:14 AM
Being mentally ill, he still believes he has god like genetics... :D

horrible bodybuilding genetics!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 03, 2018, 06:33:42 AM
horrible bodybuilding genetics!

what should have happened

(https://assets.babe.news/assets/cache/0/0//gallery/50effc6dca28cd2711eca1bd859ce2ff/2017/06/08/spcustoms1.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 03, 2018, 07:54:44 AM
Up 10 lbs in 17 days chief

Another 10 will come my way over the next 3-4 weeks  ;)
Why though? You'll never compete, you'll never win anything. Youre unemployed and can't sustain or even begin a relationship with a woman. You don't drive (can't afford a car), have an eating disorder, and are semi retarded. All this just to have a good physique. Which you don't even have. You're a fuckin loser. A bum. No better than a paki.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 03, 2018, 08:14:09 AM
horrible bodybuilding genetics!

He has great genetics tho for being a jockey..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 03, 2018, 08:23:07 AM
 8)

Yeah terrible genetics

The turd fest is in full force I see, none of you turds can top that, post a pic to top it. I'm waiting ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 03, 2018, 08:36:20 AM
8)

Yeah terrible genetics

The turd fest is in full force I see, none of you turds can top that, post a pic to top it. I'm waiting ;)
Arguing with you is like competing in the special Olympics, even if you win its a waste of time and you've only defeated a retard. I wouldn't waste my fucking time
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on March 03, 2018, 08:48:55 AM
8)

Yeah terrible genetics

The turd fest is in full force I see, none of you turds can top that, post a pic to top it. I'm waiting ;)



(https://78.media.tumblr.com/7e0f8bbd97685b861331b5348e0cec5f/tumblr_p50xb4uqua1x6pe72o1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 03, 2018, 01:37:58 PM
8)

Yeah terrible genetics

The turd fest is in full force I see, none of you turds can top that, post a pic to top it. I'm waiting ;)
\
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NZ_0yC0ewt8/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: B R on March 03, 2018, 01:52:01 PM
8)

Yeah terrible genetics

The turd fest is in full force I see, none of you turds can top that, post a pic to top it. I'm waiting ;)

Built like a gypsy’s whippet.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 04, 2018, 11:37:25 PM
you are aware that eating the same couple of sources of food are what gurus advise clients to eat

Seems like most people eat pretty much the same types of food depending on their environment and culture.

I even posted one earlier from bodybuilding.com
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/animalpak26.htm

eating pizza and ice cream that makes you bloated isnt changing your body composition permanently its just making you hold a bit of water, you can rectify that in 24 hours.

I consider water part of one's body composition. It might be argued that for competition and dialing down water manipulation is the most important part in the final days and hours. But I'm not going the argue the point if you don't agree. And just because an effect can be reversed doesn't discount the effect itself; in this that certain foods and combination of foods have different effects on the body. If you are fat from your diet you can simply (as oppose to easily) reverse that effect. But there's still an effect.
You'll bet a much different insulin response from eating sugar cubes than eating and equal amount of calories of say, talapia.


Increasing your body fat changes your body composition not a bit of water retention.
You have evidence for this I suppose?


I not sure what exactly do you mean by evidence because I am sure that you have read studies on how different macronutrient profiles affect the body differently given equal caloric value as well as how different source of macronutrients affect the body differently. For example, if someone is on a diet that is high in sugar and simple carbohydrates long term this will have an effect on insulin resistance. It's no coincidence that now even children are getting what you use to termed adult onset diabetes.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 05, 2018, 12:15:55 AM
;D

I decided to hit rows and legs like I hit arms, well almost....

Anyways I will easily gain another 10 more while staying sub-7

Easy peasy

I seem to vacillate between being amused and disturbed. For years now you have talk about how great your physique is and how even greater it will be. Not to long ago you boasted at the incredible back you will build and display in a couple of more weeks. How you put on twenty pounds of lean muscle. Now it's your legs that will undergo a miraculous transformation. You post pics continuously.

But you always remain the same. Always that same stringy physique with wide hips that no one would single out as some who lifts weights. And it doesn't matter that no one -- literally no one! -- sees what you seem to see.

You've truly taken delusion to a new level. There seems to be some sort of psychological battle going on
within you. You are desperately trying to convince yourself and others of something that you're not. But you seem to think that if you keep repeating it over and over again that it will somehow become a
reality.  

"Throughout my career in emergency medicine I have been amazed at the human capacity for self-delusion; we are the only animal in nature that can lie to itself. We do it so well that the majority of people are totally unaware of what motivates their actions, most people do not act to achieve consciously named goals; rather, they act to placate subconscious psychological value conflicts. If this sounds cynical, so be it...I am convinced it is true...even in myself."

-- Dr. Doug McGuff, The Narrow Therapeutic Window
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 05, 2018, 12:27:16 AM
8)

Yeah terrible genetics

The turd fest is in full force I see, none of you turds can top that, post a pic to top it. I'm waiting ;)

After a lifetime time, 46 years now, of continuously training with weights and comparing myself to others sharing the same passion over decades, I would deem my genetic response to putting on muscle to be
below average. At a bit over 6'1" I've gotten as high as 215 lbs but I was objectively fat. I've pretty much abandon the quest and train more for health and fitness and hold steady with my normal life style at around 180lbs. So I am nothing special and wouldn't never have the conceit and level of self-delusion that you do making the claims that you make. You post this tricep shot as if it's something special. Deserving of praise and admiration.

Again, I'm nothing to brag about but compared to you...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=757361;image)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 05, 2018, 01:16:32 AM
I not sure what exactly do you mean by evidence because I am sure that you have read studies on how different macronutrient profiles affect the body differently given equal caloric value as well as how different source of macronutrients affect the body differently. For example, if someone is on a diet that is high in sugar and simple carbohydrates long term this will have an effect on insulin resistance. It's no coincidence that now even children are getting what you use to termed adult onset diabetes.

Now you are talking about diet affecting overall health as opposed to body composition...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 05, 2018, 01:39:43 AM
Now you are talking about diet affecting overall health as opposed to body composition...

No, body comp as well. There was recently an article in the mainstream news that stated a study that
concluded that food choices were more effective in losing weight than counting calories. Then, of course, the numerous studies that demonstrated that a low carb/keto type diet were more effective at reducing fat than a high carb diet given equal caloric intake. There have even been studies showing different types of protein sources had different effects on fat loss.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 05, 2018, 01:44:45 AM
No, body comp as well. There was recently an article in the mainstream news that stated a study that
concluded that food choices were more effective in losing weight than counting calories. Then, of course, the numerous studies that demonstrated that a low carb/keto type diet were more effective at reducing fat than a high carb diet given equal caloric intake. There have even been studies showing different types of protein sources had different effects on fat loss.

so it must be true

There was an article in the mainstream news on Slimming world where they believe you can eat as many bananas as you like because they are free food but if you mash a banana up then it counts as a "syn" and you have to add it to your total allocation of daily food??????

Most people on Keto diets lose a lot of water, and also they end up eating less because its hard to overeat on protein sources
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on March 05, 2018, 03:35:46 AM
No, body comp as well. There was recently an article in the mainstream news that stated a study that
concluded that food choices were more effective in losing weight than counting calories. Then, of course, the numerous studies that demonstrated that a low carb/keto type diet were more effective at reducing fat than a high carb diet given equal caloric intake. There have even been studies showing different types of protein sources had different effects on fat loss.

thats interesting.

what people can get a better result from eating this, rather than that. thats good info to have!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 05, 2018, 06:11:25 AM
Wide hips my ass penis pelluus

Its the angle of the photo dipshit

Go to the roid board and find my thread about 2 week test blast and you will see a real photo of my so-called wide hips lol

And no progress, just go fuck yourself shitstain
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 05, 2018, 07:40:16 AM
thats interesting.

what people can get a better result from eating this, rather than that thats good info to have!

dont forget "the other"
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 05, 2018, 07:54:50 AM
Got my appetite back dudes, started swimming again, also incorporated some sauna therapy. Enjoying this nutritional debate along with a few pose downs between DJ and Pellius, good to see some members here still training!

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: mazrim on March 05, 2018, 08:08:55 AM
Then, of course, the numerous studies that demonstrated that a low carb/keto type diet were more effective at reducing fat than a high carb diet given equal caloric intake.
Not sure where you are getting this info from but studies show no difference between the two when calories/protein are equated.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213309711158330&set=a.1978934514068.2115550.1264291761&type=3&theater

http://www.ebpcoaching.com/blog/2017/11/2/low-carb-or-keto-vs-low-fat-metabolic-advantage

https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-017-0174-y
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: kyomu on March 05, 2018, 08:22:44 AM
Yes. Bulking is not good idea.
But, you have to eat if you feel flat.
Just you don't need to force yourself to eat more.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 05, 2018, 09:00:04 AM
After a lifetime time, 46 years now, of continuously training with weights and comparing myself to others sharing the same passion over decades, I would deem my genetic response to putting on muscle to be
below average. At a bit over 6'1" I've gotten as high as 215 lbs but I was objectively fat. I've pretty much abandon the quest and train more for health and fitness and hold steady with my normal life style at around 180lbs. So I am nothing special and wouldn't never have the conceit and level of self-delusion that you do making the claims that you make. You post this tricep shot as if it's something special. Deserving of praise and admiration.

Again, I'm nothing to brag about but compared to you...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=757361;image)
Not much point in using logic or sense talking to that moron  man
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 05, 2018, 09:21:02 AM
Got my appetite back dudes, started swimming again, also incorporated some sauna therapy. Enjoying this nutritional debate along with a few pose downs between DJ and Pellius, good to see some members here still training!



Props for.posting vids dude

How many cals you eating per day?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on March 05, 2018, 09:25:07 AM
Yes. Bulking is not good idea.
But, you have to eat if you feel flat.
Just you don't need to force yourself to eat more.

If you could be a little more timely in the future it would be helpful.

You could have saved us 32 pages of bullshit.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 05, 2018, 02:47:06 PM
So your appetite is up because you started doing more exercise? How is this going to help your bulk?

???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: kyomu on March 05, 2018, 02:52:59 PM
If you could be a little more timely in the future it would be helpful.

You could have saved us 32 pages of bullshit.
;D ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on March 05, 2018, 03:36:05 PM
Whatever you are doing I have to admit you look bigger and still look healthy, I think 400 grams of protein is a bit excessive,  but seems to be working for you. 
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 05, 2018, 09:10:08 PM
Wide hips my ass penis pelluus

Its the angle of the photo dipshit

Go to the roid board and find my thread about 2 week test blast and you will see a real photo of my so-called wide hips lol

And no progress, just go fuck yourself shitstain

You can throw your adolescent temper tantrums and call me names but it doesn't change
the fact that you haven't put on 20lbs of lean muscle, there's been no changes in your back
development, arms have always been the same, there will be no progress when you show case
your leg development, you are not genetically gifted. Rant and rave all want like the little child
you are but nobody sees what you see in the mirror. You're just a skinny guy that doesn't look
like he is an avid weight lifter.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 06, 2018, 08:04:07 AM
Props for.posting vids dude

How many cals you eating per day?
3500-4000 cals dude.

If you could be a little more timely in the future it would be helpful.

You could have saved us 32 pages of bullshit.
;D

So your appetite is up because you started doing more exercise? How is this going to help your bulk?

???
Not sure, but I'm hungry as hell after I swim, and I sleep like a baby.

Whatever you are doing I have to admit you look bigger and still look healthy, I think 400 grams of protein is a bit excessive,  but seems to be working for you.  
Thanks, it's 2 grams of protein per pound why it's excessive?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 06, 2018, 08:09:10 AM
Thanks, it's 2 grams of protein per pound why it's excessive?

Quote
The Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for protein is a modest 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight. The RDA is the amount of a nutrient you need to meet your basic nutritional requirements. In a sense, it’s the minimum amount you need to keep from getting sick — not the specific amount you are supposed to eat every day.

now as someone training trying to gain muscle you should obviously be eating more than that... but 400gms, seriously???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 06, 2018, 08:18:11 AM
now as someone training trying to gain muscle you should obviously be eating more than that... but 400gms, seriously???
Don't know dude, you can't just rely on science, people are different, somethings may work for certain individuals and maybe it won't work for others. RDA doesn't factor in activity, lifestyle, genetics, and various other things. You have to try things out to see if it works or if it doesn't, this life is all try and error. So far it's working so I'll keep going until it stops or I get fat or start feeling like shit. It's definitely an interesting endeavor either way.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on March 06, 2018, 08:29:51 AM
If its working, fucking stick with it - full stop. People tend to overthink things when it comes to dieting and bodybuilding and keep jumping from one thing to another.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on March 06, 2018, 08:36:55 AM
Don't know dude, you can't just rely on science, people are different, somethings may work for certain individuals and maybe it won't work for others. RDA doesn't factor in activity, lifestyle, genetics, and various other things. You have to try things out to see if it works or if it doesn't, this life is all try and error. So far it's working so I'll keep going until it stops or I get fat or start feeling like shit. It's definitely an interesting endeavor either way.
look at his diet sausages  :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on March 06, 2018, 08:39:32 AM
look at his diet sausages  :D

Don't start shitting up his progress thread. Would give the mods leverage to ban you.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on March 06, 2018, 09:00:54 AM
Don't start shitting up his progress thread. Would give the mods leverage to ban you.

We need leverage?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on March 06, 2018, 09:21:06 AM
We need leverage?

 :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 06, 2018, 01:26:24 PM
"you can't just rely on science, but you can take everything to the extreme and afterward credit your success to whichever of 500 variables that you like." -- go4it
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 06, 2018, 02:29:48 PM
"you can't just rely on science, but you can take everything to the extreme and afterward credit your success to whichever of 500 variables that you like." -- go4it
500?? I increased my calories, I decreased my cardio, I decreased my training volume, and I increased my training frequency.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 06, 2018, 03:45:00 PM
500?? I increased my calories, I decreased my cardio, I decreased my training volume, and I increased my training frequency.

Whatever you're doing, it's working so it's all good bro
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on March 06, 2018, 03:48:40 PM
Whatever you're doing, it's working so it's all good bro

That's what I'm thinking.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: sceagacros on March 06, 2018, 04:14:00 PM
I decreased my training volume, and I increased my training frequency.

I radically restructured my training this way on my accessory lifts several months ago, I'm still fine tuning intensity and volume, but I am very pleased both with results and with how well this suits my particular temperament. I personally am keeping the main lifts (for me bench, squat, and dead) to a once a week minimum but if my goal was strictly hypertrophy, I would program those more frequently also.

I would echo the "keep doing what you're doing" sentiment as well , you've obviously got a handle on what works for you.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: kyomu on March 07, 2018, 01:10:52 AM
Don't know dude, you can't just rely on science, people are different, somethings may work for certain individuals and maybe it won't work for others. RDA doesn't factor in activity, lifestyle, genetics, and various other things. You have to try things out to see if it works or if it doesn't, this life is all try and error. So far it's working so I'll keep going until it stops or I get fat or start feeling like shit. It's definitely an interesting endeavor either way.
All competitors like you know it. 8)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on March 07, 2018, 02:09:53 PM

You are desperately trying to convince yourself and others of something that you're not. But you seem to think that if you keep repeating it over and over again that it will somehow become a
reality.  thin you.

"Throughout my career in emergency medicine I have been amazed at the human capacity for self-delusion; we are the only animal in nature that can lie to itself. We do it so well that the majority of people are totally unaware of what motivates their actions, most people do not act to achieve consciously named goals; rather, they act to placate subconscious psychological value conflicts. If this sounds cynical, so be it...I am convinced it is true...even in myself."

-- Dr. Doug McGuff, The Narrow Therapeutic Window


Right on.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 07, 2018, 05:46:13 PM
Whatever you're doing, it's working so it's all good bro
Thanks for the positive comment, you must have been in a good mood ;D

That's what I'm thinking.
Respect 8)

I radically restructured my training this way on my accessory lifts several months ago, I'm still fine tuning intensity and volume, but I am very pleased both with results and with how well this suits my particular temperament. I personally am keeping the main lifts (for me bench, squat, and dead) to a once a week minimum but if my goal was strictly hypertrophy, I would program those more frequently also.

I would echo the "keep doing what you're doing" sentiment as well , you've obviously got a handle on what works for you.
Thanks, changing my training has been interesting, I cut the volume and sets way down, it's actually hard to leave the gym after like 12 sets, I'm used to doing 16-20 sets per body part, I always had the mentality more work equals better results, still learning this game. Good luck with your new program.

All competitors like you know it. 8)
Respect bro, Tell Paco whats up ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on March 07, 2018, 08:13:08 PM
After a lifetime time, 46 years now, of continuously training with weights and comparing myself to others sharing the same passion over decades, I would deem my genetic response to putting on muscle to be
below average. At a bit over 6'1" I've gotten as high as 215 lbs but I was objectively fat. I've pretty much abandon the quest and train more for health and fitness and hold steady with my normal life style at around 180lbs. So I am nothing special and wouldn't never have the conceit and level of self-delusion that you do making the claims that you make. You post this tricep shot as if it's something special. Deserving of praise and admiration.

Again, I'm nothing to brag about but compared to you...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=757361;image)
I have to imagine that one of the resident wackos is running the account and finding these obscure and blurry images to post of "DJ".  I don't think anyone has been responding to the account seriously for a while now.  But, for what it's worth you destroy him in that side arm shot.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: K A N N I B A L on March 08, 2018, 03:28:19 AM
After a lifetime time, 46 years now, of continuously training with weights and comparing myself to others sharing the same passion over decades, I would deem my genetic response to putting on muscle to be
below average. At a bit over 6'1" I've gotten as high as 215 lbs but I was objectively fat. I've pretty much abandon the quest and train more for health and fitness and hold steady with my normal life style at around 180lbs. So I am nothing special and wouldn't never have the conceit and level of self-delusion that you do making the claims that you make. You post this tricep shot as if it's something special. Deserving of praise and admiration.

Again, I'm nothing to brag about but compared to you...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=757361;image)

Destroyed....in every way.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 08, 2018, 05:12:13 AM
Blah blah blah

Meanwhile I get comps on the regular regarding my outstanding physique

But nah.... I will listen to you turds over my real life experiences lol

Yep my camera fucking sucks and it is too bad coz it can't display the glory of my outstanding physique

And go, I am bulking too and I have added 8 pounds and I still got viens running up and down my abs  8)

Wots yo bench now go?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on March 08, 2018, 05:22:00 AM
DJ post more recent pics. These ones have been recycled for weeks now.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 08, 2018, 05:45:59 AM
DJ post more recent pics. These ones have been recycled for weeks now.

I post one soon chief
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 08, 2018, 05:58:04 AM
Blah blah blah

Meanwhile I get comps on the regular regarding my outstanding physique

But nah.... I will listen to you turds over my real life experiences lol

Yep my camera fucking sucks and it is too bad coz it can't display the glory of my outstanding physique

And go, I am bulking too and I have added 8 pounds and I still got viens running up and down my abs  8)

Wots yo bench now go?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/wHmDcfVELtZKw/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on March 08, 2018, 06:30:15 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/wHmDcfVELtZKw/giphy.gif)
be back ,,your better looking than I presumed..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 08, 2018, 06:44:41 AM
be back ,,your better looking than I presumed..

Seems 5 asain rice dicks couldn't satisfy his wifey, maybe 10 could have done the job
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 08, 2018, 07:29:39 AM
Blah blah blah

Meanwhile I get comps on the regular regarding my outstanding physique

But nah.... I will listen to you turds over my real life experiences lol

Yep my camera fucking sucks and it is too bad coz it can't display the glory of my outstanding physique

And go, I am bulking too and I have added 8 pounds and I still got viens running up and down my abs  8)

Wots yo bench now go?
I thought you were cutting?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 08, 2018, 07:30:46 AM
I thought you were cutting?
he isnt doing anything, how long is it going to take you to realise hes a fucking moron?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 08, 2018, 07:37:16 AM
I thought you were cutting?

Been there done that

Hit sub-5 in 3 weeks with viens all over my abs

Now I am on to lean gains babyboy ;*
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 08, 2018, 07:53:46 AM
Been there done that

Hit sub-5 in 3 weeks with viens all over my abs

Now I am on to lean gains babyboy ;*
So you did all that just to be in condition for a few weeks? Did you take advantage of being in that condition atleast?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 08, 2018, 07:59:23 AM
So you did all that just to be in condition for a few weeks? Did you take advantage of being in that condition atleast?

Yeo, started bulk ripped
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 08, 2018, 08:13:01 AM
Yeo, started bulk ripped
Did make any videos, photoshoots, at least hit the beach?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 08, 2018, 08:27:34 AM
Did make any videos, photoshoots, at least hit the beach?

What the fuck for?

Not a finished product yet chief

175-180 sub-6 DRY is where I am headed
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 08, 2018, 08:46:46 AM
What the fuck for?

Not a finished product yet chief

175-180 sub-6 DRY is where I am headed
You like getting compliments, go to the beach in that condition veins in your abs, for sure you'll get tons of compliments.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 08, 2018, 09:11:59 AM
You like getting compliments, go to the beach in that condition veins in your abs, for sure you'll get tons of compliments.

I'm getting comps now so its all good   8)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 08, 2018, 09:24:37 AM
So you did all that just to be in condition for a few weeks? Did you take advantage of being in that condition atleast?

why do you continue this pointless drivel with this imbecile, come on mate, you are better than that, guys taking the piss and you keep taking him seriously, hes not bulking hes not cutting hes a fucking moron who lives off a trust fund (like Joon)hes an anorexic idiot.

im beginning to suspect you are as daft as he is..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 08, 2018, 09:37:54 AM
Did make any videos, photoshoots, at least hit the beach?

Pics taken just NOW

P..S. My back and legs have improved even moreso but impossible to take a good back pic solo
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 08, 2018, 10:10:50 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=757645;image)


hahaha thats the worst you have ever looked

the delusion has evolved to a whole new level
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 08, 2018, 10:49:52 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=757645;image)


hahaha thats the worst you have ever looked

the delusion has evolved to a whole new level


Nice try dummy

I'm on high dose test so yeah I won't be, so dry, even though that is very good detail and seperation right there

Too bad I can't take a pic ofl my back ;)

Maybe I will take a leg pic tomorrow sweet cheeks

Does your wife's twat smell of tiny rice dick lol
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on March 08, 2018, 02:27:08 PM

Help me the fuck please.

Not a finished product yet chief

Ambulance - men in white coats - Straight jacket & Mental hospital is where I am headed


Fixed for accuracy.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 08, 2018, 10:24:09 PM
Fixed for accuracy.

Hey shitis from 15's site

Did you get your gear yet by post? LOL

BTW, your current cycle sucks ass
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 08, 2018, 11:32:20 PM
why do you continue this pointless drivel with this imbecile, come on mate, you are better than that, guys taking the piss and you keep taking him seriously, hes not bulking hes not cutting hes a fucking moron who lives off a trust fund (like Joon)hes an anorexic idiot.

im beginning to suspect you are as daft as he is..

You just realized this ???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 09, 2018, 12:28:05 AM
You just realized this ???

I think his glasses gave me the illusion of intelligence.

He comes across as nice but dim..., hes a male bimbo.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 09, 2018, 01:26:10 AM
Not sure where you are getting this info from but studies show no difference between the two when calories/protein are equated.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213309711158330&set=a.1978934514068.2115550.1264291761&type=3&theater

http://www.ebpcoaching.com/blog/2017/11/2/low-carb-or-keto-vs-low-fat-metabolic-advantage

https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-017-0174-y

Well, I guess it's a case where you pick your poison. My only point is that the sources of macronutrients
makes a difference in how it effects your body. Eating jelly donuts versus, say, oatmeal will definitely have a difference in insulin response. Studies even have been done on how different protein sources effect
the body differently. 

http://www.ergo-log.com/after-adaptation-phase-low-carb-athlete-changes-into-fat-incinerator.html

http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2012/06/fishing-for-better-wheys-to-improve.html

http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/09/faster-muscle-hypertrophy-lower.html

http://www.ergo-log.com/paleo-diet-makes-fat-cells-lazy.html
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 09, 2018, 01:27:28 AM
I think his glasses gave me the illusion of intelligence.

He comes across as nice but dim..., hes a male bimbo.

Those horny rice dick asains.still working on your wife's pussy and asshole?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: pellius on March 09, 2018, 01:39:05 AM
Blah blah blah

Meanwhile I get comps on the regular regarding my outstanding physique

But nah.... I will listen to you turds over my real life experiences lol

Yep my camera fucking sucks and it is too bad coz it can't display the glory of my outstanding physique

And go, I am bulking too and I have added 8 pounds and I still got viens running up and down my abs  8)

Wots yo bench now go?

You get comps from whores in strip clubs that say, "I should be paying you" as they pocket
your mom's money. And I'm sure fat Poles on the street and gym buddies say you look good just like someone asked me yesterday if I was a bodybuilder. And just like I always say "looking good, bro", to
everyone that I bump into in the gym which I do just because they're there. Just not being fat puts
one ahead of the pack in this world but not on this board, "chief".

Anyway, you haven't put on 8 pounds of muscle and even if you did it doesn't show. And, yes, you care,
you care a lot about what I, and everybody else, thinks of you no matter what you say. Why else do
you post pics and keep bragging about yourself and claim that in Poland, the fitness capital of the world,
you're a god.

"Hey, Che, ma man. I posted a pic of my arm in the arm thread. Check it out and tell me what you think."

And to think you are in your forties.

.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on March 09, 2018, 01:45:59 AM
Hey shitis from 15's site

Did you get your gear yet by post? LOL

BTW, your current cycle sucks ass

 ::)


Help me the fuck please.

Not a finished product yet chief

Ambulance - men in white coats - Straight jacket & Mental hospital is where I am headed


They’re on there way....
Don’t cry  :'(
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 09, 2018, 01:49:24 AM
You get comps from whores in strip clubs that say, "I should be paying you" as they pocket
your mom's money. And I'm sure fat Poles on the street and gym buddies say you look good just like someone asked me yesterday if I was a bodybuilder. And just like I always say "looking good, bro", to
everyone that I bump into in the gym which I do just because they're there. Just not being fat puts
one ahead of the pack in this world but not on this board, "chief".

Anyway, you haven't put on 8 pounds of muscle and even if you did it doesn't show. And, yes, you care,
you care a lot about what I, and everybody else, thinks of you no matter what you say. Why else do
you post pics and keep bragging about yourself and claim that in Poland, the fitness capital of the world,
you're a god.

"Hey, Che, ma man. I posted a pic of my arm in the arm thread. Check it out and tell me what you think."

And to think you are in your forties.

.

It's a troll job dummy
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 09, 2018, 03:26:03 AM
It's a troll job dummy
youre not clever enough to troll
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 09, 2018, 07:13:57 AM
Pics taken just NOW

P..S. My back and legs have improved even moreso but impossible to take a good back pic solo
Arms looking fuller, props.

Well, I guess it's a case where you pick your poison. My only point is that the sources of macronutrients
makes a difference in how it effects your body. Eating jelly donuts versus, say, oatmeal will definitely have a difference in insulin response. Studies even have been done on how different protein sources effect
the body differently. 

http://www.ergo-log.com/after-adaptation-phase-low-carb-athlete-changes-into-fat-incinerator.html

http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2012/06/fishing-for-better-wheys-to-improve.html

http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/09/faster-muscle-hypertrophy-lower.html

http://www.ergo-log.com/paleo-diet-makes-fat-cells-lazy.html

Good info.

I think his glasses gave me the illusion of intelligence.

He comes across as nice but dim..., hes a male bimbo.
Glasses are the key  ;D

Arm udpdate, great pump, been adding an intra shake into the mix, been getting good workouts with it thus far, plus it's a way to get a little extra calories.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 09, 2018, 07:24:09 AM
Arms looking fuller, props.
Good info.
Glasses are the key  ;D

Arm udpdate, great pump, been adding an intra shake into the mix, been getting good workouts with it thus far, plus it's a way to get a little extra calories.



even more protein.     ::)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 09, 2018, 07:48:37 AM
even more protein.     ::)
A very small amount yes from EAA's and some Gatorade powder, but good energy through the workout with this shake I have to admit.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 09, 2018, 08:44:40 AM
A very small amount yes from EAA's and some Gatorade powder, but good energy through the workout with this shake I have to admit.

have cut out all BCAAS they were giving me cystitis, my piss was on fire.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Henda on March 09, 2018, 09:54:49 AM
Arms looking fuller, props.
Good info.
Glasses are the key  ;D

Arm udpdate, great pump, been adding an intra shake into the mix, been getting good workouts with it thus far, plus it's a way to get a little extra calories.



Awesome arms
How did you come to own a Newcastle United shirt?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 09, 2018, 01:19:55 PM
have cut out all BCAAS they were giving me cystitis, my piss was on fire.
Woah, what they hell is that? I just read a study how the majority of protein powders are loaded with containment's especially heavy metals like lead, they found the vegan protein powders to be the worst in terms of containment's. Crazy stuff, thinking of just sticking to liquid eggwhites Piana style from here on out.


Awesome arms
How did you come to own a Newcastle United shirt?
Thanks, I bought the Newcastle jersey last time I was in Thailand, they sell knockoff sports jerseys on the street I bought a ton of them, Ronaldo, Bale, Balotelli, etc..they are around $5-10 a piece depending on how you negotiate.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 09, 2018, 01:25:22 PM
Woah, what they hell is that?


its like a urinery infection, it must be too acidic for me, I suffer from Kidney stones every now and again, the BCAAs are unlikely to help with that.

My doctor told me to stop taking them a while ago, I ignored her because I explained they were just food.

Maybe we should listen to doctors more often.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 09, 2018, 01:29:40 PM
its like a urinery infection, it must be too acidic for me, I suffer from Kidney stones every now and again, the BCAAs are unlikely to help with that.

My doctor told me to stop taking them a while ago, I ignored her because I explained they were just food.

Maybe we should listen to doctors more often.
Interesting, my ex gf got a urinary track infection from when we hooked up in a jacuzzi, she was in serious pain, had to take some medications, along with drinking cranberry juice. But for sure you have to listen to your body, especially monitor your bathrooom habits, these are big signs of how your body is processing and eliminating foods.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 09, 2018, 01:30:47 PM
It's a troll job dummy

???

Can you explain what trolling is and how your posts constitute trolling?

tia
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 09, 2018, 01:34:13 PM
Interesting, my ex gf got a urinary track infection from when we hooked up in a jacuzzi, she was in serious pain, had to take some medications, along with drinking cranberry juice. But for sure you have to listen to your body, especially monitor your bathrooom habits, these are big signs of how your body is processing and eliminating foods.

it varies from sloppy pale tan to floating bullets...

If you are interested.... ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Henda on March 09, 2018, 01:35:10 PM
Woah, what they hell is that? I just read a study how the majority of protein powders are loaded with containment's especially heavy metals like lead, they found the vegan protein powders to be the worst in terms of containment's. Crazy stuff, thinking of just sticking to liquid eggwhites Piana style from here on out.

Thanks, I bought the Newcastle jersey last time I was in Thailand, they sell knockoff sports jerseys on the street I bought a ton of them, Ronaldo, Bale, Balotelli, etc..they are around $5-10 a piece depending on how you negotiate.

was asking as I Live about ten miles north of Newcastle and though and American bodybuilding forum getbig would be the very last place id ever see anyone wearing a toon top haha
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on March 09, 2018, 01:45:37 PM
DJ post more recent pics. These ones have been recycled for weeks now.

Wouldn't it be unusual to change one's physique enough in a few weeks for it to show in a photograph?  
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 09, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
was asking as I Live about ten miles north of Newcastle and though and American bodybuilding forum getbig would be the very last place id ever see anyone wearing a toon top haha

Father in law lives in Alnwick, we got married there last year...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 09, 2018, 01:48:26 PM
Woah, what they hell is that? I just read a study how the majority of protein powders are loaded with containment's especially heavy metals like lead, they found the vegan protein powders to be the worst in terms of containment's. Crazy stuff, thinking of just sticking to liquid eggwhites Piana style from here on out.


WTF are "containments"?! Is that short, closeted homo talk?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on March 09, 2018, 01:53:32 PM
WTF are "containments"?! Is that short, closeted homo talk?

Pretty sure it's a typo and he meant contaminates. Your reply is funny though. Contained = closeted.  ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 09, 2018, 02:00:05 PM
WTF are "containments"?! Is that short, closeted homo talk?

no its a subtle troll word designed to "out" homophobic posters...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on March 09, 2018, 02:12:13 PM
???

Can you explain what trolling is and how your posts constitute trolling?

tia


He can’t explain anything
He’s not that clever.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Henda on March 09, 2018, 02:51:09 PM
Father in law lives in Alnwick, we got married there last year...

Often venture up that way in warmer months, could I have come to the night do had I promised to be on very best behaviour?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 09, 2018, 02:55:11 PM
Often venture up that way in warmer months, could I have come to the night do had I promised to be on very best behaviour?

we drove up in the morning, got married at 2pm, went for a meal in Alnwick Castle treehouse and then drove home later that evening, a very small wedding, Just my father in law and his wife came..

you would have been more than welcome to chuck confetti or rice to keep it bodybuilding related.. ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Henda on March 09, 2018, 03:01:18 PM
we drove up in the morning, got married at 2pm, went for a meal in Alnwick Castle treehouse and then drove home later that evening, a very small wedding, Just my father in law and his wife came..

you would have been more than welcome to chuck confetti or rice to keep it bodybuilding related.. ;D

Haha That doesn’t surprise me
I’d honestly do exactly the same if I ever get round to marrying our lass with my mother as the only guest.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 09, 2018, 03:24:01 PM
Haha That doesn’t surprise me
I’d honestly do exactly the same if I ever get round to marrying our lass with my mother as the only guest.
we had been together 23 years, it was about getting finances and house sorted in case anything happens to one of use, with esfitness only 5 thousand miles away we cant take chances on me being alive much longer
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on March 09, 2018, 03:52:28 PM
we had been together 23 years, it was about getting finances and house sorted in case anything happens to one of use, with esfitness only 5 thousand miles away with my diet we cant take chances on me being alive much longer
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 10, 2018, 01:13:46 AM
Arms looking fuller, props.
Good info.
Glasses are the key  ;D

Arm udpdate, great pump, been adding an intra shake into the mix, been getting good workouts with it thus far, plus it's a way to get a little extra calories.



How much have you gained so far, and what was your starting bf and what's your bf now?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 10, 2018, 01:14:37 AM
How much have you gained so far, and what was your starting bf and what's your bf now?
It's a troll job dummy


 ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 10, 2018, 03:05:23 AM

 ;)

 ???

What does that have to do with anything?

And do you really think that I am so full of myself IRL? :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on March 10, 2018, 03:08:01 AM
The video game says "play me"
Face it on a level but it takes you every time on a one on one
Feeling running down your spine
Nothing gonna save your one last dime 'cause it own you
Through and through

Who trolled who, who trolled you?
Who trolled who, ain't nobody told you?
Who trolled who, who trolled you?
If you trolled them and they trolled you
Who picked up the bill, and who trolled who?
Yeah
Who trolled who
Who turned the screw?

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 10, 2018, 06:57:43 AM
How much have you gained so far, and what was your starting bf and what's your bf now?
Around 14 pounds, starting bf probably 10-12% current bodyfat maybe 15%
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 10, 2018, 07:19:50 AM
Around 14 pounds, starting bf probably 10-12% current bodyfat maybe 15%

Respect for being honest bro
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on March 10, 2018, 07:39:05 AM
Respect for being honest bro

When are you going to post update pics?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 10, 2018, 08:07:44 AM
When are you going to post update pics?

Less than 24 hrs ago
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on March 10, 2018, 08:08:56 AM
Damn, putting size on.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 10, 2018, 08:26:23 AM
Damn, putting size on.

Post a leg pic here in bout 2 hours..... Maybe ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 10, 2018, 08:32:33 AM
Damn, putting size on.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/eLBuiMd4AojyU/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 10, 2018, 10:32:58 AM
Post a leg pic here in bout 2 hours..... Maybe ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on March 10, 2018, 11:26:07 AM

back it up cant tell shiiitttt....
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on March 10, 2018, 11:26:38 AM
back it up cant tell shiiitttt....

That's the idea.  ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 10, 2018, 11:39:19 AM
This whole thread is a terrible idea..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on March 10, 2018, 11:48:31 AM
This whole thread is a terrible idea..
;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on March 10, 2018, 11:49:28 AM
That's the idea.  ;)
;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 10, 2018, 12:14:25 PM
back it up cant tell shiiitttt....

RIPPED and...... DRRRRRYYYYYY  :-*
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 10, 2018, 12:18:37 PM
is that your forearm?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 10, 2018, 01:05:14 PM
is that your forearm?

Lol

Not bad, 8.5/10

P.s. I running high test with no GH and I am staying dry and tight eating pizzas EVERY SINGLE DAY

Its a beutiful thing

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 10, 2018, 01:43:28 PM
https://www.facebook.com/ConexionCubanos/videos/vb.789363404495132/1524758017622330/?type=2&theater

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tres_taco_combo on March 10, 2018, 05:19:55 PM
bulking isnt a terrible idea - here is what the problem is - people bulk then they never follow it by a deep ass cut.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 10, 2018, 06:16:42 PM
Back update
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 10, 2018, 08:45:34 PM
bulking isnt a terrible idea - here is what the problem is - people bulk then they never follow it by a deep ass cut.


if only people could hear this message!!!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 10, 2018, 08:46:53 PM
i've got to hand it to dj, his progress is undeniable.

props man, i can't ignore the obvious any more. how long do you figure it will take to get to 180 dry?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 11, 2018, 02:50:24 PM
i've got to hand it to dj, his progress is undeniable.

props man, i can't ignore the obvious any more. how long do you figure it will take to get to 180 dry?

Respect for keeping it real and being honest and not letting emotions blind you to the FACTS

I'm 175 right now so 180 dry should take 6 weeks TOPS

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 11, 2018, 02:57:18 PM
Respect for keeping it real and being honest and not letting emotions blind you to the FACTS

I'm 175 right now so 180 dry should take 6 weeks TOPS


(http://www.pmslweb.com/the-blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/31-when-you-miss-the-point-funny-gif.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 11, 2018, 03:11:12 PM
Be queer

How'd your wife enjoy getting nailed by them dirty slimy asains

Heard they gangbanged her with her taking 5 rice dicks at a time

One stuffed up asshole one deep in hairy pussy one slammed down her throat and one in each hand lulz
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tres_taco_combo on March 11, 2018, 07:16:14 PM
if only people could hear this message!!!

YES DUDE!

:)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2018, 05:15:20 AM
Back update

good lat spread...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 12, 2018, 07:28:45 AM
good lat spread...
Thanks bro!

Side tricep of peace ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on March 12, 2018, 07:33:23 AM
ass looks bigger
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on March 12, 2018, 07:35:16 AM
Did your shrink your head in photoshop? Looks really weird and you aren't very tall so...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 12, 2018, 07:38:05 AM
ass looks bigger
For sure, glutes of peace, overall leg mass bigger, squats and lunges.

Did your shrink your head in photoshop? Looks really weird and you aren't very tall so...
no dude, head gains not loyal.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 12, 2018, 07:59:22 AM
good lat spread...

 8)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2018, 08:01:06 AM
I've read most of the thread of real content 'your bulb plan'question with increased food/cal's how is your digestive system day to day'indigestion,gas,bloating?there has to be some difference in your body's feel...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2018, 08:01:57 AM
8)
you???
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 12, 2018, 08:08:56 AM
you???

Si bello
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2018, 08:10:03 AM
Si bello
8)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 12, 2018, 08:23:29 AM
8)
Nice work dude

I've read most of the thread of real content 'your bulb plan'question with increased food/cal's how is your digestive system day to day'indigestion,gas,bloating?there has to be some difference in your body's feel...
Not really due to experimenting with different foods, I found sweet potato and white rice digests very easy for me, this is important when eating alot of calories, I also try to eat ground meats (turkey, beef, bison) mostly because again it seems to digest better. I feel good, still have good energy, strength is good for sure. But if I were to eat how some of these guys are recommending I know I would feel like shit, If I was eating pizza, Chinese buffets, Ihop etc, I would have terrible bloating and just overall feeling lethargic.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on March 12, 2018, 08:26:46 AM
8)

Better than I expected
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 12, 2018, 08:37:28 AM
Better than I expected

I'm not just a MOUTH  like many on here I back ma shit up chief
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2018, 08:57:30 AM
Nice work dude
Not really due to experimenting with different foods, I found sweet potato and white rice digests very easy for me, this is important when eating alot of calories, I also try to eat ground meats (turkey, beef, bison) mostly because again it seems to digest better. I feel good, still have good energy, strength is good for sure. But if I were to eat how some of these guys are recommending I know I would feel like shit, If I was eating pizza, Chinese buffets, Ihop etc, I would have terrible bloating and just overall feeling lethargic.
I see ,,need to check into that for myself.i use brown rice by habit,i like basmati...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 12, 2018, 10:10:39 AM
I see ,,need to check into that for myself.i use brown rice by habit,i like basmati...
I stick to white rice, brown rice just sits in me as well as oats.

Head gains not loyal

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2018, 11:02:29 AM
8)

You have A LOT of work to do.   Less posting pics like this and more lifting - thank you.   
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 12, 2018, 11:07:15 AM
You have A LOT of work to do.   Less posting pics like this and more lifting - thank you.   

Post up a back shot of you and lets compare it to mine Chief, if you got the guts ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2018, 11:11:44 AM
Post up a back shot of you and lets compare it to mine Chief, if you got the guts ;)

LOL  - your back looks like garbage compared to mine - and I posted a pic two weeks ago of back.   

Now go get your FNG shine box slim. 
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2018, 11:13:14 AM
Post up a back shot of you and lets compare it to mine Chief, if you got the guts ;)

Your non existent legs look like toothpicks too.   Get off the web and start lifting for f sake. 
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 12, 2018, 12:14:10 PM
LOL  - your back looks like garbage compared to mine - and I posted a pic two weeks ago of back.   

Now go get your FNG shine box slim. 

So post it here then dipshit
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on March 12, 2018, 12:15:12 PM
i posted my pic in that other thread well you know back in well you know back then !
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2018, 12:20:06 PM
So post it here then dipshit

have done so already slim.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2018, 12:32:09 PM
So post it here then dipshit

Bro - for real - i dont want to make you look even worse than you already do.   It won't end well for you here.  You need to eat something for gods' sake
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 12, 2018, 12:47:15 PM
Bro - for real - i dont want to make you look even worse than you already do.   It won't end well for you here.  You need to eat something for gods' sake

Translation: I am a pear bodied dwarf with a wide ass 36 inch waist

You are like 5'4" right? Lulz
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2018, 12:51:32 PM
Translation: I am a pear bodied dwarf with a wide ass 36 inch waist

You are like 5'4" right? Lulz

Like I said - or perhaps - ask Grape Ape -

Or better yet - lets wager accounts - ill post a back pic from today -

If people think you look better - fine - ill delete my account. 

If people think i look better - you go away for good

Deal or no? 



Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on March 12, 2018, 01:05:57 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=641855.0;attach=757855;image)

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/1cc1c1e2b8b2c8d3ead0ca997cac7287/tumblr_p5huf1x01i1x6pe72o2_1280.png)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Taffin on March 12, 2018, 01:09:21 PM
Did your shrink your head in photoshop? Looks really weird and you aren't very tall so...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on March 12, 2018, 01:12:41 PM
Like I said - or perhaps - ask Grape Ape -

Or better yet - lets wager accounts - ill post a back pic from today -

If people think you look better - fine - ill delete my account. 

If people think i look better - you go away for good

Deal or no? 

(http://static1.squarespace.com/static/55918890e4b0a12fd5456712/57aa1d30893fc0a1eaa66ff5/59cbe126a803bb9fb9e2aa69/1512495111989/Soy_Nail_Polish_Remover_new_nails.jpg?format=1000w)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/b8746d0efced0b196b3040fd656707c3/tumblr_p5huf1x01i1x6pe72o1_540.gif)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on March 12, 2018, 01:14:00 PM
how about everyone who posts pictures go away
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 12, 2018, 01:48:58 PM
Like I said - or perhaps - ask Grape Ape -

Or better yet - lets wager accounts - ill post a back pic from today -

If people think you look better - fine - ill delete my account. 

If people think i look better - you go away for good

Deal or no? 





Not on this board

How about on a neutral board, 5 foot 4 baghahahhhahahha

Maybe we could have a c0ck size comp? You up for it? ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 12, 2018, 01:53:17 PM
You claim to be natty right? lulz

Nice thick wide waist on ya chief

Where the c0ck pics tiny?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on March 12, 2018, 01:54:40 PM
how about everyone who posts pictures go away

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=174017.0;attach=201978;image)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2018, 01:56:12 PM
You claim to be natty right? lulz

Nice thick wide waist on ya chief

Where the c0ck pics tiny?

Creepy as f#$% 

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 12, 2018, 01:58:23 PM
Creepy as f#$% 



Translation: I got a tiny c0ck

Any black dudes intimidate you lately?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 12, 2018, 02:09:23 PM
Translation: I got a tiny c0ck

Any black dudes intimidate you lately?

You have already admitted to a six inch cock numbnuts, want me to post your quote...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on March 12, 2018, 02:18:45 PM
You have already admitted to a six inch cock numbnuts, want me to post your quote...

you save quotes about cock sizes?

i bet you have quite the archive!
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: be back on March 12, 2018, 02:19:57 PM
you save quotes about cock sizes?

i bet you have quite the archive!

i have a separate folder for each poster, they are categorised in order of the level of embarrassment...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on March 12, 2018, 02:55:08 PM
Like I said - or perhaps - ask Grape Ape -

Or better yet - lets wager accounts - ill post a back pic from today -

If people think you look better - fine - ill delete my account. 

If people think i look better - you go away for good

Deal or no? 



There will be no deal

1, He’d lose
2, He’d Not be able to cope without posting on here


What a shame as the board has improved without Shizzo
And would improve again without Dick Jockeys Inane Postings
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 13, 2018, 03:16:08 AM

There will be no deal

1, He’d lose
2, He’d Not be able to cope without posting on here


What a shame as the board has improved without Shizzo
And would improve again without Dick Jockeys Inane Postings

15 banned ya shit is

Seems you were scamming preps out of their hard earned cash with your gear selling

Nothing worse than a cowardly thief
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 13, 2018, 03:17:50 AM
You have already admitted to a six inch cock numbnuts, want me to post your quote...

A tad over 6 but thick as fuck

Has your wife recovered from her Asian gangbang yet?

5 rice dicks at once is pretty impressive
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on March 13, 2018, 04:27:54 PM
15 banned ya shit is

Seems you were scamming preps out of their hard earned cash with your gear selling

Nothing worse than a cowardly thief


What are you talking about ?
Have you gone completely Mad.

Please post up what I was supposedly doing
On a idiotic board run by an idiotic & well know fraudster
Which is going to be very difficult as I wasn’t on there. Fool

I offered to meet GloryHole15 face to face countless times
He was full of excuses not to.

As you like / worship him so much & his board
Why not stay on there.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: ratherbebig on March 14, 2018, 12:33:05 PM
go 4 it how long you been bulking now?
how do you deal with abs not being as flat as youre used to?
how does it feel being stronger in the lifts?
how long will you be bulking?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 14, 2018, 07:41:37 PM
go 4 it how long you been bulking now?
how do you deal with abs not being as flat as youre used to?
how does it feel being stronger in the lifts?
how long will you be bulking?

About 12 weeks now dude, it's definitely been a interesting experience, I'm learning a lot to be honest about food, training, recovery. I've never gone this long without doing cardio, I'm actually amazed at how relatively lean I'm staying even though I'm eating much more food. The added size is cool I guess, the added strength is a good feeling, the eating is getting very old to be honest, tired of eating dude. Truthfully I don't know how these guys eat 10-12 meals a day, I just watched asked Dave latest video he talks about being 325 and eating 10 times a day, thats craziness. Not having shredded abs, it's been ok, for one thing I'm in Chicago and I'm covered up, so it hasn't really been too bad. Not sure how much longer will I continue this, my weight keeps dropping its keep fluctuating between 198-194, I just wanted to hit 200 even for a day lol, but it's been fun for sure. Also it's been fun posting here again and actually following bodybuilding for a change, on the ship I'm just too busy to post much here, for sure no time to watch Youtube videos on bodybuilding, but Rx and even some of MD's stuff has been fun to watch these past few months.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: a_pupil on March 14, 2018, 09:04:27 PM
Back update


wow. looking like a more aesthetic, healthy and muscular version of the infamous doggcrapp lat spread

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQxIF1uhrXTSdq0pWlym7dFrev6mjCD5TCEEeItQo1KNx68jchf)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 15, 2018, 12:30:41 AM
How tall are you go?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 15, 2018, 07:56:33 AM
How tall are you go?
5'7
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 15, 2018, 08:42:54 AM
5'7

Shit man, 175-180 ripped at your height is VERY BIG

200 is mass monster status
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 15, 2018, 08:59:31 AM
Shit man, 175-180 ripped at your height is VERY BIG

200 is mass monster status
?? Mass monster?? No way dude, for my height thats no where near mass monster stats, 230-240 thats big for 5'7.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 15, 2018, 10:32:01 AM
?? Mass monster?? No way dude, for my height thats no where near mass monster stats, 230-240 thats big for 5'7.

Snassrr smell somebody, Coleman and other were light heavy at 5'10"-5'11" and they were holding lots of size and looked best because their waists were still tiny
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 15, 2018, 10:59:00 AM
Is this Alzheimer thread still alive? Amazing..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on March 15, 2018, 11:34:24 AM
Shit man, 175-180 ripped at your height is VERY BIG

200 is mass monster status

This dude who posts on the Y is in pretty good shape, but a bit heavier than that, and a bit taller.    I think he's got you beat, man.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=554769.0;attach=755599;image)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 15, 2018, 11:41:15 AM
This dude who posts on the Y is in pretty good shape, but a bit heavier than that, and a bit taller.    I think he's got you beat, man.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=554769.0;attach=755599;image)

So he is 5'5" then?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 15, 2018, 01:42:29 PM
This dude who posts on the Y is in pretty good shape, but a bit heavier than that, and a bit taller.    I think he's got you beat, man.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=554769.0;attach=755599;image)
good back on that dude, im focusing right now on thickness and lower back development,  ive made some good improvements, still have work to do though.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 15, 2018, 01:52:36 PM
good back on that dude, im focusing right now on thickness and lower back development,  ive made some good improvements, still have work to do though.

You're arms are.actually bigger than your Delts

That is very very rare
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 15, 2018, 01:58:20 PM
You're arms are.actually bigger than your Delts

That is very very rare
It is? In thr 70s and 80s it was the norm.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 15, 2018, 02:31:06 PM
It is? In thr 70s and 80s it was the norm.

Now EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE TURDS HAVE DELTS THAT OVERPOWER THIER ARMS
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 15, 2018, 02:50:16 PM
Now EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE TURDS HAVE DELTS THAT OVERPOWER THIER ARMS
Well I don't think it's coincidence that synthol came into the bodybuilding scene in the 90's and also at this time all of a sudden you start seeing these giant bowling ball delts of the stage.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 15, 2018, 03:22:08 PM
Well I don't think it's coincidence that synthol came into the bodybuilding scene in the 90's and also at this time all of a sudden you start seeing these giant bowling ball delts of the stage.

IMHO it is more.from strong use of androgens like test and teen

They cause more delt growth than anabolics like dbol and deca
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 17, 2018, 02:09:58 AM
Any updates blow?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 17, 2018, 09:43:44 AM
Any updates blow?
Not really, still at 198, but I will say this intra technique works really well for pumps and overall energy, no joke you guys should give it a shot, I'm just using Gatorade powder and EAA's while I train, the powder is better for me because you can concentrate it, I don't like drinking a ton of fluid while training so with the powder you can add as much water as you desire. Here's a most muscular update.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 17, 2018, 11:49:39 AM
Not really, still at 198, but I will say this intra technique works really well for pumps and overall energy, no joke you guys should give it a shot, I'm just using Gatorade powder and EAA's while I train, the powder is better for me because you can concentrate it, I don't like drinking a ton of fluid while training so with the powder you can add as much water as you desire. Here's a most muscular update.



The Serostim is really working well for you. Not all of us are eligible for a prescription though.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 17, 2018, 12:00:10 PM
Not really, still at 198, but I will say this intra technique works really well for pumps and overall energy, no joke you guys should give it a shot, I'm just using Gatorade powder and EAA's while I train, the powder is better for me because you can concentrate it, I don't like drinking a ton of fluid while training so with the powder you can add as much water as you desire. Here's a most muscular update.


[/quote

Good stuff

Keep pushing it and don't ever give up]
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on March 17, 2018, 01:20:33 PM
Go4It,  I think you would a better shot at getting your pro card if you entered masters division bodybuilding,  classic and physique are totally saturated with competitors,  your best bet these days would be bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 17, 2018, 03:03:43 PM
good back on that dude, im focusing right now on thickness and lower back development,  ive made some good improvements, still have work to do though.

classic "progress" comparison:

- offseason vs. on-stage
- black and white vs. color
- different angle

etc.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 17, 2018, 05:07:18 PM
Not really, still at 198, but I will say this intra technique works really well for pumps and overall energy, no joke you guys should give it a shot, I'm just using Gatorade powder and EAA's while I train, the powder is better for me because you can concentrate it, I don't like drinking a ton of fluid while training so with the powder you can add as much water as you desire. Here's a most muscular update.


[/quote

Good stuff

Keep pushing it and don't ever give up]Thanks dude!

classic "progress" comparison:

- offseason vs. on-stage
- black and white vs. color
- different angle

etc.
Yes color vs black and white, is they key to all the progress.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: cephissus on March 17, 2018, 05:32:24 PM
Looking jacked and maxed man, hope you didn't assemble that vid just for me.

Do you use any stimulants? Caffeine, etc?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 17, 2018, 06:16:17 PM
Go4It,  I think you would a better shot at getting your pro card if you entered masters division bodybuilding,  classic and physique are totally saturated with competitors,  your best bet these days would be bodybuilding.
I actually agree with you on that, it's open season for open bodybuilding, shows are flooded with physique and classic competitors, the probability of getting a win on the national level in classic or physique is going to be very difficult, there were over 35 dudes alone in my class last time I competed on the national level.

Looking jacked and maxed man, hope you didn't assemble that vid just for me.

Do you use any stimulants? Caffeine, etc?
Thanks, it took me less then 2 minutes to make that video lol, yeah I drink coffee in the morning and I've been using a preworkout called Allmax  impact igniter I use half a scoop of that, it's a good product good pumps it's loaded with caffeine thats why i just take half.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on March 17, 2018, 06:16:47 PM
IMHO it is more.from strong use of androgens like test and teen

They cause more delt growth than anabolics like dbol and deca

I'm inclined to agree with you. Having been on HRT for many years, I've noticed a very gradual change in my deltoids. They are nothing to write home about, but they're more pronounced than before HRT.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 18, 2018, 11:41:50 AM
I actually agree with you on that, it's open season for open bodybuilding, shows are flooded with physique and classic competitors, the probability of getting a win on the national level in classic or physique is going to be very difficult, there were over 35 dudes alone in my class last time I competed on the national level.
Thanks, it took me less then 2 minutes to make that video lol, yeah I drink coffee in the morning and I've been using a preworkout called Allmax  impact igniter I use half a scoop of that, it's a good product good pumps it's loaded with caffeine thats why i just take half.

What's yo box squat bro?

Just put up 2 bills for 7 today
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 18, 2018, 11:54:23 AM
What's yo box squat bro?

Just put up 2 bills for 7 today

Speaking of boxes... you should step on a box with a rope around your tiny necklet and then fucking jump
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 18, 2018, 12:08:22 PM
Speaking of boxes... you should step on a box with a rope around your tiny necklet and then fucking jump

Nah

Much rather punch that pussy face of yours and knock out a few teeth
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 18, 2018, 12:17:06 PM
Nah

Much rather punch that pussy face of yours and knock out a few teeth

You still have no control over your emotions, that's how weak you are :D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on March 18, 2018, 12:24:42 PM
What's yo box squat bro?

Just put up 2 bills for 7 today

I bet that shit was above parallel, you're an absolute joke.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 18, 2018, 01:16:57 PM
What's yo box squat bro?

Just put up 2 bills for 7 today
Never done a box squat dude, just doesn't seem safe, sitting down on something with a bunch of weight compressing my spine. I do front squats and hack squats.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 18, 2018, 01:33:24 PM
I bet that shit was above parallel, you're an absolute joke.

Uh-huh

Yet I am incrediblely confident I look soooooo much better than you

AGAIN..... IN REAL LIFE I GET COMPS ON MY OUTSTANDING PHYSIQUE ON THE DAILY SHIT FER BRAINS
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on March 18, 2018, 01:37:39 PM
I bet that shit was above parallel, you're an absolute joke.

Yes He Sure Had Lucky Legs

Lucky they don’t Snap.


Likely had a great deal of trouble standin up & getting the weight off the pins
And that was his Squat Movement Completed.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on March 18, 2018, 01:48:22 PM
Uh-huh

Yet I am incrediblely confident I look soooooo much better than you

AGAIN..... IN REAL LIFE I GET COMPS ON MY OUTSTANDING PHYSIQUE ON THE DAILY SHIT FER BRAINS

Of course you do you fucking mongrel.

(http://i50.tinypic.com/28jgr3d.jpg)
(http://i66.tinypic.com/kdtnbt.png)
(http://)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 18, 2018, 01:53:04 PM
Posting a 7 year old pic lol


What a worthless sack of shit you are

I really do wish I could meet you IRL because I would hurt you very badly and I would love doing it

You see I have a violent sadistic side and I would gladly bestow it upon you with exceeding pleasure
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 18, 2018, 02:13:00 PM
Posting a 7 year old pic lol


What a worthless sack of shit you are

I really do wish I could meet you IRL because I would hurt you very badly and I would love doing it

You see I have a violent sadistic side and I would gladly bestow it upon you with exceeding pleasure

You behave like a 7 year old, now what's worse?
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on March 18, 2018, 02:17:16 PM
Never done a box squat dude, just doesn't seem safe, sitting down on something with a bunch of weight compressing my spine. I do front squats and hack squats.

I've apparently been doing them wrong. I thought the box was just a guide to insure you're squatting low enough, so I barely touch it. Come to find out, you are actually supposed to pause before ascending back to a standing position. In this case, it's probably best to keep the resistance on the light side. I like doing V squats facing to the front and to the rear.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: werewolf operative on March 18, 2018, 02:21:48 PM
Posting a 7 year old pic lol

If anything, I'm doing you a favor you fucking creep...
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Nether Animal on March 18, 2018, 06:48:55 PM
Of course you do you fucking mongrel.

(http://i66.tinypic.com/kdtnbt.png)

That's not Phil Collen
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: tres_taco_combo on March 18, 2018, 07:45:46 PM
I got up to 238 last year, slowly trimmed down. bulking is a must but you must cut as hard as you bulked or you will be just a fatter.

again its way harder to cut than bulk - hence you go to any pool or beach or you see many 12-15% BF and very few 7-9% bf bros
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on March 18, 2018, 07:49:14 PM
Of course you do you fucking mongrel.

(http://i50.tinypic.com/28jgr3d.jpg)
(http://i66.tinypic.com/kdtnbt.png)
(http://)



Looks like he’s bigger in that pic

 ;D
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Grape Ape on March 19, 2018, 04:53:02 AM
Never done a box squat dude, just doesn't seem safe, sitting down on something with a bunch of weight compressing my spine. I do front squats and hack squats.

Not unsafe when done properly.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 19, 2018, 05:51:11 AM
Up to 180 @ sub-8

Viens all over my quads and still running up and down my abs  8)

Maybe I will even go to 2 bills

Got great genetics and if I go to 2 bills I will enter lightheavies and win I bet  ;)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 19, 2018, 06:12:14 AM
Up to 180 @ sub-8

Viens all over my quads and still running up and down my abs  8)

Maybe I will even go to 2 bills

Got great genetics and if I go to 2 bills I will enter lightheavies and win I bet  ;)

You're like your avatar, you're living in a comic book fantasy..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Primemuscle on March 19, 2018, 06:10:10 PM
I got up to 238 last year, slowly trimmed down. bulking is a must but you must cut as hard as you bulked or you will be just a fatter.

again its way harder to cut than bulk - hence you go to any pool or beach or you see many 12-15% BF and very few 7-9% bf bros

I've read about bodybuilders who maintain their off-season weight within a close range of their ideal contest weight. -Seems like a healthier way to go.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 22, 2018, 02:00:00 PM
Little footage from todays session, trying out some Rest-Pause Sets.

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 22, 2018, 02:42:40 PM
Little footage from todays session, trying out some Rest-Pause Sets.



That must be a great & versatile machine, need to talk to my gym owner..
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 22, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
That must be a great & versatile machine, need to talk to my gym owner..
Absolutely, great machine, really isolates the chest, the shoulder one by the same company is also great variation for military press.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: AbrahamG on March 22, 2018, 07:59:57 PM
Heard from someone in the know that BJ181 was force fed the kielbasa on the regular throughout high school.  The shame is what drove him overseas.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 23, 2018, 12:16:23 AM
Heard from someone in the know that BJ181 was force fed the kielbasa on the regular throughout high school.  The shame is what drove him overseas.

 :o
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Go 4 It on March 25, 2018, 01:41:11 PM
Leg update

Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2018, 02:24:32 PM
Got some size dude, impressive

Not really my cup of tea coz I don't want to be too big, but impressive none the less
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: The Keto Kid on March 25, 2018, 04:40:50 PM
Leg update


Legs look improved, good vascularity too.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: funk51 on March 27, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Disco187 on March 27, 2018, 09:47:41 AM
Bulking what a crock of shit!!!!

theres no reason why us bodybuilders cant grow over the months while keeping some type of abdominals.... drugs or no drugs,,,,,  Every time I simply up my calories to try to play the mass game I look like shit unless I'm in a 4x t shirt.


when I was 250 pounds on high gear thinking I was bulking I just simply looked like shit!

225 nice and lean I look twice the size on 3/4 to 1/2 the amount of gear
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: chuckles on March 27, 2018, 09:50:36 AM
Bulking what a crock of shit!!!!

theres no reason why us bodybuilders cant grow over the months while keeping some type of abdominals.... drugs or no drugs,,,,,  Every time I simply up my calories to try to play the mass game I look like shit unless I'm in a 4x t shirt.


when I was 250 pounds on high gear thinking I was bulking I just simply looked like shit!

225 nice and lean I look twice the size on 3/4 to 1/2 the amount of gear
agree 100% never get fat...always stay lean.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: illuminati on March 27, 2018, 02:20:58 PM
Bulking what a crock of shit!!!!

theres no reason why us bodybuilders cant grow over the months while keeping some type of abdominals.... drugs or no drugs,,,,,  Every time I simply up my calories to try to play the mass game I look like shit unless I'm in a 4x t shirt.


when I was 250 pounds on high gear thinking I was bulking I just simply looked like shit!

225 nice and lean I look twice the size on 3/4 to 1/2 the amount of gear


Excellent post
Very well said

Great to hear you learnt from the misguided experience
And no doubt at all you look way bigger & better now.
Title: Re: Bulking is a terrible idea
Post by: Tennisballz on March 27, 2018, 02:31:04 PM
Bulking what a crock of shit!!!!

theres no reason why us bodybuilders cant grow over the months while keeping some type of abdominals.... drugs or no drugs,,,,,  Every time I simply up my calories to try to play the mass game I look like shit unless I'm in a 4x t shirt.


when I was 250 pounds on high gear thinking I was bulking I just simply looked like shit!

225 nice and lean I look twice the size on 3/4 to 1/2 the amount of gear
This is a good post.  I have never felt worse than when I "bulked" in my younger years.  I felt like crap, slept horrible and was anxious all the time. Also, as a natural I learned the hard way that bulking didn't put much muscle on either.  When it was all said and done, maybe a pound.  One whole pound of muscle for a 10 month process of 6-7 months bulking and 3 dieting.  I could've put that pound on just by lifting and eating basically maintenence.