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It seems to me that he realises that McCain and Obama are the same and will produce essentially the same results.
Discuss...
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It seems to me that he realises that McCain and Obama are the same and will produce essentially the same results.
Discuss...
If you think McCain and Obama are the same you need to go back to Middle School and Learn how to Read...
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If you think McCain and Obama are the same you need to go back to Middle School and Learn how to Read...
How are their foreign policy and monetary policy different? Does either of them talk about a non-interventionist foreign policy and the Federal Reserve? No.
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How are their foreign policy and monetary policy different? Does either of them talk about a non-interventionist foreign policy and the Federal Reserve? No.
So you name 2 thiings they dont speak about so that makes them the SAME, you have a rather shallow mind...
What would you like them to say about the Federal Reserve? DO you even know what the FEDERAL RESERVE IS???
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it seems to me 240 gets more attention for how he's going to vote than a holywood celeb...
discuss...
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So you name 2 thiings they dont speak about so that makes them the SAME, you have a rather shallow mind...
What would you like them to say about the Federal Reserve? DO you even know what the FEDERAL RESERVE IS???
Yes I do know what the Federal Reserve is and most importantly I know it is not Federal...
There is nothing radically different about either candidate. Ron Paul, now that would have been radically different.
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Yes I do know what the Federal Reserve is and most importantly I know it is not Federal...
There is nothing radically different about either candidate. Ron Paul, now that would have been radically different.
Well talk to me in Details about the federal reserve since you want them to Talk about it.... (bring me facts)
Of course Ron Paul is Radically different, and personally I like Ron Paul, but he wont ever get in, so i gotta vote with someone who can make a difference, even if its not as Radical
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Well talk to me in Details about the federal reserve since you want them to Talk about it.... (bring me facts)
Of course Ron Paul is Radically different, and personally I like Ron Paul, but he wont ever get in, so i gotta vote with someone who can make a difference, even if its not as Radical
Watch Alan Greenspan say quite bluntly that the Federal Reserve is unregulated and that the Chair controls everything...
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you vote for McCain or don't vote for Obama = You're happy with the job neocons did on us and the world and support 4 more years of it. Why do the vast majority of prominent neoconservatives hate Obama? duh... Former head of PNAC is McCain's senior foreign policy adviser. the most important thing to neocons has been to direct American foreign policy. McCain loves these guys. Obama has big issues with both what they've done in that area and what they've done to the constitution. There is a chance Obama won't run with the omnipotent executive powers seized by Bush and Co. But, it's an absolute McCain will happily takes the reigns of power in the same fashion. If you want another 4 years of the country being decided by signing statements and zero accountability along with more neocon policies, McCain is your man.
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you vote for McCain or don't vote for Obama = You're happy with the job neocons did on us and the world and support 4 more years of it. Why do the vast majority of prominent neoconservatives hate Obama? duh... Former head of PNAC is McCain's senior foreign policy adviser. the most important thing to neocons has been to direct American foreign policy. McCain loves these guys. Obama has big issues with both what they've done in that area and what they've done to the constitution. There is a chance Obama won't run with the omnipotent executive powers seized by Bush and Co. But, it's an absolute McCain will happily takes the reigns of power in the same fashion. If you want another 4 years of the country being decided by signing statements and zero accountability along with more neocon policies, McCain is your man.
Basically choosing the less smelly of two piles of shit...yes, Obama does smell slightly less.
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Or u want 4 years of a whiny America hating, wuss who will be quickly be the laughing stock of our enemies abroad, vote Obama. If u want more of ur tax dollars poured into foreign and domestic blackholes, vote Obama. If u want to watch liberal bullshit forced down ur throat, vote Obama.
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Basically choosing the less smelly of two piles of shit...yes, Obama does smell slightly less.
I would say more than slightly... The neocon factor alone makes McCain a significantly stinkier pile of poo. Unless we've all forgotten the last 8 years... where have people's memory gone? Surely people remember, the neocons were like talking about The Dark Side and the Empire. They believe it's our role to police the world and spread our way of thinking. Man, in my book that makes them way way stinkier... and it's fact, the ideas of the executive being omnipotent originates with the neoconservatives, with people like Cheney, Rove and Rumsfeld strongly pushing it and believing it all the way back to the Nixon era. We see now what happens when their ideas of the executive are implimented--a president that answers to nobody, who is 100% above the law. The neocon factor alone is huge.
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Or u want 4 years of a whiny America hating, wuss who will be quickly be the laughing stock of our enemies abroad, vote Obama. If u want more of ur tax dollars poured into foreign and domestic blackholes, vote Obama. If u want to watch liberal bullshit forced down ur throat, vote Obama.
Mr. Oil Pipeline, you are an eloquent exponent for your values.
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Or u want 4 years of a whiny America hating, wuss who will be quickly be the laughing stock of our enemies abroad, vote Obama. If u want more of ur tax dollars poured into foreign and domestic blackholes, vote Obama. If u want to watch liberal bullshit forced down ur throat, vote Obama.
wow, put a lot of thinking into that ::) To bad it's been team Bush and the republicans who have spent our asses into oblivion!!!!
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Nobody cares what 240 does. People just point out how he contradicts himself like its a bodily function.
As far as knocking HH goes for "not putting thought into what hes writing", dude look in the mirror. Most of the liberal parrots who post here robotically repeat the same tired nonsense that sounds like its being simulcast directly from Keith Olberman. "McCain is the same as Bush," 'McBush"," Neo con conspiracy this", "Neo con conspiracy that", "Hes too old". Yeah, I can tell you spent half a lifetime preparing a thesis as to why your not voting for McCain.
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wow, put a lot of thinking into that ::) To bad it's been team Bush and the republicans who have spent our asses into oblivion!!!!
Last I checked it was the libs who spent our collective asses into oblivion on stupid, pointless 'social programs' and other such non-sense.
At least on most republican spending, something is produced or some good happens (like the reduction of muslim populations). Lib spending typically goes into the rathole of social handouts.
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Hereford good point. Spending 50 billion on a world poverty initiative, re-writing all the mortgage contracts by defaulting homeowners,socializing health care and increasing taxes are great ways to "bring back our economy".
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While I think McCain is a putz, I do find Hugo's and the other retards postings hilarious. They provide no substance. They just spam neocon for five lines and think they're proving their point. Oh my God, another neo-con comment! I'm not supporting neocons but maybe they should bring some substance to their arguments before calling others out for doing what they say is the same. ::)
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Damn near everything the left does is to the detriment of the American economy.
Raising taxes (and most taxes in general) does nothing but hinder economic development and activity. News flash: THE RICH IN THIS COUNTRY CREATE THE JOBS!!! How many jobs are created by the poor? And don't be counting government jobs created to administer the handouts or correctional institutions that they require.
'Socialized' anything is just a way of supporting the bottom-feeders in this country. Nobody who makes any sort of a living is going to go to a government socialized hospital, they will go to private clinics, but still be forced to pay for the care of the dregs of society. Hell, anyone been to a public health clinic? The places are always packed with immigrants getting free drugs and neonatal care, and the occational crack-whore type.
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hey guys, the economy bailout will mean a few things....
1) Obama's 1.5 trillion spending package just got cancelled.
2) Obama's tax cuts for poor just got cancelled.
3) Mccain's tax cuts for the rich just got cancelled.
he contradicts himself like its a bodily function.
I don't understand this. You find something contradictory about urination or defecation?
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Last I checked it was the libs who spent our collective asses into oblivion on stupid, pointless 'social programs' and other such non-sense.
At least on most republican spending, something is produced or some good happens (like the reduction of muslim populations). Lib spending typically goes into the rathole of social handouts.
Our biggest expenditures by far are for our military; our budget is more than all the other nations on earth combined. Lots of that money goes to building lavish entertainment complexes and fitness centres on military bases so military personnel can enjoy the good life. I don't really know what your position on foreign interventionism is, but I can tell you that is the first place the US should start saving.
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Our biggest expenditures by far are for our military; our budget is more than all the other nations on earth combined. Lots of that money goes to building lavish entertainment complexes and fitness centres on military bases so military personnel can enjoy the good life. I don't really know what your position on foreign interventionism is, but I can tell you that is the first place the US should start saving.
The voice of reason. Or how about we cut the military 'funding' we provide to Israel?
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Mccain already said - twice - that he'll cut defense spending.
He and obama are on the same page on that issue.
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The voice of reason. Or how about we cut the military 'funding' we provide to Israel?
Cut funding to everyone...problem is we have an important oil pipeline going from the Caspian through several 'ally' countries and we need to protect 'our' oil...
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Cut funding to everyone...problem is we have an important oil pipeline going from the Caspian through several 'ally' countries and we need to protect 'our' oil...
On a side note, Russia also wants that Caspian line. So it'll be inetersting to see how this issue escalates in the future.
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The whole military funding thing is a whole 'nother issue to be discussed. It is insane that a tank should cost 1 billion dollars. What the hell is in that machine that it needs to cost 1B? Is that the best bid the government could get? Why do military-grade (i.e., low-quality) Humvees cost 150K when elite civilian SUV's cost half that? The soldiers get squat for salary (HH6, jump in here on this).
Cruise missiles cost 1M each? WTF?
Also, much of our military spending goes to other countries (Israel, Japan, etc).
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On a side note, Russia also wants that Caspian line. So it'll be inetersting to see how this issue escalates in the future.
Endless wars over oil resources...I love it. :-\
Most of the people here actually think this is a good thing. :o
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Oil has been obsolete since WW2.
The fact that there is not any other available engine types commercially available in 2008 in rediculous.
If there was an alternative, the middle east would become as insignificant as africa.
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Oil has been obsolete since WW2.
The fact that there is not any other available engine types commercially available in 2008 in rediculous.
If there was an alternative, the middle east would become as insignificant as africa.
I'd give my left nut to see that. I'd give them two days tops before the entire middle east declared war on each other. Can't export sand.
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Oil has been obsolete since WW2.
The fact that there is not any other available engine types commercially available in 2008 in ridiculous.
If there was an alternative, the middle east would become as insignificant as africa.
I like your Latin phrase. I agree with it...well, sometimes.
I think we will see the shift of interest to the Caspian region and Central Asia in the next few years...
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I have a friend who worked on the oil infrastructure in Kazhakstan. He said that you wouldnt believe the activity in oil development that is taking place there.
He also said the locals are basically still living in the stone age. Some foreign interests are going to own all of them, too bad they are bordering russia. Apparently the oil refineries are effectually to foreign military bases.
In many of the central asian regions, there is nothing except oil.
Future battle grounds.... :'(
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It seems to me that he realises that McCain and Obama are the same and will produce essentially the same results.
Discuss...
Why haven't you figured out a foolproof way to hang yourself yet?
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Our biggest expenditures by far are for our military; our budget is more than all the other nations on earth combined. Lots of that money goes to building lavish entertainment complexes and fitness centres on military bases so military personnel can enjoy the good life. I don't really know what your position on foreign interventionism is, but I can tell you that is the first place the US should start saving.
I've read your posts on this board and never say anything, but you my friend, are a fuc*ing ignorant tool. Have you ever even been on a military base? I got plenty of friends and family in. They enjoy the good life of being deployed 6-12 months a year in some hole in the middle of the desert. Yeah they signed up for it, to never be able to say no to orders and do whatever is told to them. So maybe they should have a nice gym and other facilities for their extra work. If you hate America so much, leave. I think McCain and Obama both suck, but I don't preach from the mountaintop my superior opinions like yourself. But people like you who hate America for the sake of hating it, really need to just leave the gene pool. No one will miss you, except maybe your self hating commie friends. Your nothing but a punk, dude. As you were................
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Dude, he lives in England.
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Dude, he lives in England.
Thanks,if thats the case, he has no opinion then and needs to just STFU.
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Why haven't you figured out a foolproof way to hang yourself yet?
You're an idiot.
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240 doesn't care who wins, he knows what's up.
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You're an idiot.
Coming from you, that's a compliment. ;)
Why don't you volunteer to kick the chair out from under "Deicide" while he stands on it with a noose around his neck? You will be assisting your buddy in offing himself and perhaps celebrate by voting for that funny looking Mr. Paul Ron fella you babble about right after you cut down "Deicide's" corpse. You could make a day of it, since many states have begun early voting. :)
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Coming from you, that's a compliment. ;)
Why don't you volunteer to kick the chair out from under "Deicide" while he stands on it with a noose around his neck? You will be assisting your buddy in offing himself and perhaps celebrate by voting for that funny looking Mr. Paul Ron fella you babble about right after you cut down "Deicide's" corpse. You could make a day of it, since many states have begun early voting. :)
hahahahaha..haha..ha. uh. yeah. ::)
Ron Pauls gotten more air time regarding the financials than Obama. Wonder why they don't ask him about it as much? Oh yeah, that's right, he didn't see the obvious coming.
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hahahahaha..haha..ha. uh. yeah. ::)
Ron Pauls gotten more air time regarding the financials than Obama. Wonder why they don't ask him about it as much? Oh yeah, that's right, he didn't see the obvious coming.
Mr. Paul Ron has gotten more airtime...where, exactly? Do they show Mr. Ron on CSPAN or something when there is no one else in session? Poor guy...Mr. Ron is like in his 70's, right? Let's hope he doesn't drop dead before November 4th. He seems like a nice, kindly old man. Reminds me of the man who used to babysit my brother and I when we were little terrors. ;D
I know you care a lot about Mr. Ron very much, so give him the regards of getbig, ok? Old people appreciate gestures like that. :)
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I've read your posts on this board and never say anything, but you my friend, are a fuc*ing ignorant tool. Have you ever even been on a military base? I got plenty of friends and family in. They enjoy the good life of being deployed 6-12 months a year in some hole in the middle of the desert. Yeah they signed up for it, to never be able to say no to orders and do whatever is told to them. So maybe they should have a nice gym and other facilities for their extra work. If you hate America so much, leave. I think McCain and Obama both suck, but I don't preach from the mountaintop my superior opinions like yourself. But people like you who hate America for the sake of hating it, really need to just leave the gene pool. No one will miss you, except maybe your self hating commie friends. Your nothing but a punk, dude. As you were................
LOL ;D
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Mr. Paul Ron has gotten more airtime...where, exactly? Do they show Mr. Ron on CSPAN or something when there is no one else in session? Poor guy...Mr. Ron is like in his 70's, right? Let's hope he doesn't drop dead before November 4th. He seems like a nice, kindly old man. Reminds me of the man who used to babysit my brother and I when we were little terrors. ;D
I know you care a lot about Mr. Ron very much, so give him the regards of getbig, ok? Old people appreciate gestures like that. :)
It's telling that you can't find one criticsm about him that matters. But how can you when he's been right all along?
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It's telling that you can't find one criticsm about him that matters. But how can you when he's been right all along?
no doubt the election will decide just how right Paul Ron has been
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no doubt the election will decide just how right Paul Ron has been
Wow. You're too stupid to waste any more time on.
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Wow. You're too stupid to waste any more time on.
Thanks! Your brain power puts mine to shame so I certainly hope you no longer respond to any of my posts. Even though we are parting on bad terms I do wish that Paul Ron fellow the best of luck in...whatever it is he is trying to do. :-\
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Last I checked it was the libs who spent our collective asses into oblivion on stupid, pointless 'social programs' and other such non-sense.
At least on most republican spending, something is produced or some good happens (like the reduction of muslim populations). Lib spending typically goes into the rathole of social handouts.
when was the last time you checked, that 80's ::) republicans have spent their asses off while dems have been calling for ballanced budgets for 20 years. Update man, update...