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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #75 on: March 28, 2011, 07:52:15 AM »
October 09, 2008
Who Wrote Dreams From My Father?
By Jack Cashill
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Prior to 1990, when Barack Obama contracted to write Dreams From My Father, he had written very close to nothing.  Then, five years later, this untested 33 year-old produced what Time Magazine has called -- with a straight face -- "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician."


The public is asked to believe Obama wrote Dreams From My Father on his own, almost as though he were some sort of literary idiot savant.  I do not buy this canard for a minute, not at all.  Writing is as much a craft as, say, golf.  To put this in perspective, imagine if a friend played a few rounds in the high 90s and then a few years later, without further practice, made the PGA Tour.  It doesn't happen.

And yet, given the biases of the literary establishment, no reviewer of note has so much as questioned Obama's role in the writing, then or now. As the New York Times gushed, Obama was "that rare politician who can write . . . and write movingly and genuinely about himself."  These accolades matter all the more because Obama has built his political persona around his presumably superior intellect, Dreams being exhibit A.


Shy of a confession by those involved, I will not be able to prove conclusively that Obama did not write this book.  As shall be seen, however, there are only two real possibilities: one is that Obama experienced a near miraculous turnaround in his literary abilities; the second is that he had major editorial help, up to and including a ghostwriter. 


The weight of the evidence overwhelming favors the latter conclusion and strongly suggests who that ghostwriter is.  In that this remains something of a work in progress, I am willing to test my hypothesis against any standard of proof and appreciate any and all good leads.


In my career in advertising and publishing, I have reviewed the portfolios of a thousand professional writers, all of them crowded with writing samples, but only a handful of these writers would have been capable of having a written a book as stylish as Dreams.  I have also written a book on intellectual fraud, Hoodwinked, and examined any number of bogus biographies that excited the literary left to the point of complicity, Edward Said's and Rigoberta Menchu's prominent among them, Menchu winning a Nobel Prize for hers.  Obama's ascent seems to follow a century-old pattern.


Tracing Obama's literary ascent is complicated by what Politico.com calls a  "scant paper trail." That trail begins at Occidental College whose literary magazine published two of Obama's poems -- "Pop" and "Underground" -- in 1981. Obama calls it some "very bad poetry," and he does not sell himself short.  From "Underground":


Under water grottos, caverns


Filled with apes


That eat figs.


Stepping on the figs


That the apes


Eat, they crunch.


The apes howl, bare


Their fangs, dance . . .



It would be another decade before Obama had anything in print and this an edited, unsigned student case comment in the Harvard Law Review unearthed by Politico. Attorneys who reviewed the piece for Politico described it as "a fairly standard example of the genre."


Of note, Politico reporters Ben Smith and Jeffrey Resner observe that "the temperate legal language doesn't display the rhetorical heights that run through his memoir, published a few years later."


Once elected president of the Harvard Law Review --more of a popularity than a literary contest -- Obama contributed not one signed word to the HLR or any other law journal. As Matthew Franck has pointed out in National Review Online, "A search of the HeinOnline database of law journals turns up exactly nothing credited to Obama in any law review anywhere at any time."


A 1990 New York Times profile on Obama's election as Harvard's first black president caught the eye of agent Jane Dystel. She persuaded Poseidon, a small imprint of Simon & Schuster, to authorize a roughly $125,000 advance for Obama's proposed memoir.


With advance in hand, Obama repaired to Chicago where he dithered.   At one point, in order to finish without interruption, he and wife Michelle decamped to Bali.  Obama was supposed to have finished the book within a year. Bali or not, advance or no, he could not. He was surely in way over his head.


According to a surprisingly harsh 2006 article by liberal publisher Peter Osnos, which detailed the "ruthlessness" of Obama's literary ascent, Simon & Schuster canceled the contract.  Dystel did not give up.  She solicited Times Book, the division of Random House at which Osnos was publisher. He met with Obama, took his word that he could finish the book, and authorized a new advance of $40,000.


Then suddenly, somehow, the muse descended on Obama and transformed him from a struggling, unschooled amateur, with no paper trail beyond an unremarkable legal note and a poem about fig-stomping apes, into a literary superstar.


To be sure, it is not unusual for successful politicians to hire ghostwriters -- John McCain gives due credit to Mark Salter for his memoir, Faith of My Fathers -- but it is highly unusual for unknown young Chicago lawyers to hire ghostwriters.


I have attempted to contact Dystel by phone and email without success.  It is highly unlikely she refashioned the book, and Osnos admittedly did not.  If my suspicions are correct, the ghost on this book shared many of Obama's sentiments, spoke his language and spent considerable time reworking the text.


I bought Bill Ayers' 2001 memoir, Fugitive Days, for reasons unrelated to this project.  As I discovered, he writes surprisingly well and very much like "Obama."  In fact, my first thought was that the two may have shared the same ghostwriter.  Unlike Dreams, however, where the high style is intermittent, Fugitive Days is infused with the authorial voice in every sentence. What is more, when Ayers speaks, even off the cuff, he uses a cadence and vocabulary consistent with his memoir.  One does not hear any of Dreams in Obama's casual speech.


Obama's memoir was published in June 1995.  Earlier that year, Ayers helped Obama, then a junior lawyer at a minor law firm, get appointed chairman of the multi-million dollar Chicago Annenberg Challenge grant.  In the fall of that same year, 1995, Ayers and his wife, Weatherwoman Bernardine Dohrn, helped blaze Obama's path to political power with a fundraiser in their Chicago home.


In short, Ayers had the means, the motive, the time, the place and the literary ability to jumpstart Obama's career. And, as Ayers had to know, a lovely memoir under Obama's belt made for a much better resume than an unfulfilled contract over his head.


For simplicity sake, I will refer to the author of Dreams as "Obama."  Without question, he contributed much of the book's raw material, especially the long-winded accounting of events and conversations, polished just well enough to pass muster.  The book's fierce, succinct and tightly coiled social analysis more closely matches the style of Fugitive Days, a much tighter book.


Ayers and Obama have a good deal in common. In the way of background, both grew up in comfortable white households and have struggled to find an identity as righteous black men ever since.  Just as Obama resisted "the pure and heady breeze of privilege" to which he was exposed as a child, Ayers too resisted "white skin privilege" or at least tried to.


"I also thought I was black," says Ayers only half-jokingly. As proof of his righteousness, Ayers named his first son "Malik" after the newly Islamic Malcolm X and the second son "Zayd" after Zayd Shakur, a Black Panther killed in a shootout that claimed the life of a New Jersey State Trooper. 


Tellingly, Ayers, like Obama, began his career as a self-described "community organizer," Ayers in inner-city Cleveland, Obama in inner-city Chicago. In short, Ayers was fully capable of crawling inside Obama's head and relating in superior prose what the Dreams' author calls a "rage at the white world [that] needed no object."


Indeed, in Dreams, it is on the subject of black rage that Obama writes most eloquently.   Phrases like "full of inarticulate resentments," "unruly maleness," "unadorned insistence on respect" and "withdrawal into a smaller and smaller coil of rage" lace the book.


In Fugitive Days, "rage" rules and in high style as well.  Ayers tells of how his "rage got started" and how it evolved into an "uncontrollable rage -- fierce frenzy of fire and lava." Indeed, the Weathermen's inaugural act of mass violence was the "Days of Rage" in 1969 Chicago.


As in Chicago, that rage led Ayers to a sentiment with which Obama was altogether familiar, "audacity!"  Ayers writes, "I felt the warrior rising up inside of me -- audacity and courage, righteousness, of course, and more audacity."  This is one of several references.


The combination of audacity and rage has produced two memoirs that follow oddly similar rules.  Ayers describes his as "a memory book," one that deliberately blurs facts and changes identities and makes no claims at history.  Obama says much the same.  In Dreams, some characters are composites.  Some appear out of precise chronology.  Names have been changed.


As a control, allow me to introduce my own book, Sucker Punch, which is no small part a memoir about race, specifically in my relationship, at great remove, with Muhammad Ali and the world of boxing.  In the book, I describe my own unreconstructed coming of age in racially charged Newark, New Jersey as it happened.  I change no names, create no composite characters, alter no chronologies.  Most memoirs observe the same conventions.  Dreams and Fugitive Days, however, are both suffused with repeated reference to lies, lying and what Ayers calls, in his pitch perfect post-modern patois, "our constructed reality."


"But another part of me knew that what I was telling them was a lie," writes Obama, "something I'd constructed from the scraps of information I'd picked up from my mother."


"That whole first year seemed like one long lie," Obama writes of his first year in college in Los Angeles, one of at least a dozen references to lies and lying in "Dreams," a figure nearly matched in "Fugitive Days."


The reader knows that Ayers -- with some justification -- has much to hide.  He senses that Obama does too, but he is never quite sure why.  This presumed poetic license leads to the frequent manipulation of dates to make a political point. 


"I saw a dead body once, as I said, when I was ten, during the Korean War," writes Ayers. This correlation is important enough that Ayers mentions it twice.  The only problem is that Ayers was eight when the Korean War ended.


Obama tells us that when he was ten, he and his family visited the mainland.  On the trip, back in their motel room, they watched the Watergate Hearings on TV. The problem, of course, is that those hearing started just before Obama turned twelve.


One could forgive a single missed date, but inconsistent dates and numbers appear frequently in both books and often reinforce some moment of lost innocence.  In the same spirit, both books abound in detail too closely remembered and conversations too well recorded.  These moments in both books occasionally lead to an awareness of the nation's seemingly ineradicable racism.


In 1970, for instance, the 9-year-old Obama alleges to be visiting the American embassy Indonesia. While waiting, he chances upon "a collection of Life magazines neatly displayed in clear plastic binders."


In one magazine, he reads a story about a black man with an "uneven, ghostly hue," who has been rendered grotesque by a chemical treatment.  "There were thousands of people like him," Obama learned, "black men and women back in America who'd undergone the same treatment in response to advertisements that promised happiness as a white person."


Obama's attention to detail is a ruse. Life never ran such an article. When challenged, Obama claimed it was Ebony. Ebony ran no such article either.  Besides, black was beautiful in 1970.


In a similar vein, Ayers tells of hitching a ride in Missouri with "Bud," the driver of a "brand-new Peterbilt truck."  The man proceeds to regale Ayers with a string of dirty jokes -- at least two of them retold word for word -- before reaching under his seat and pulling out a large pistol, his "N****r neutralizer."


"White people can never quite remember the scope and scale of the slavocracy," Ayers reminds the reader again and again, writing as though he were not a member of this benighted race.


These parallels intrigue perhaps, but they prove little.  To add a little science to the analysis, I identified two similar "nature" passages in Obama's and Ayers' respective memoirs, the first from Fugitive Days:


"I picture the street coming alive, awakening from the fury of winter, stirred from the chilly spring night by cold glimmers of sunlight angling through the city."


The second from Dreams:


"Night now fell in midafternoon, especially when the snowstorms rolled in, boundless prairie storms that set the sky close to the ground, the city lights reflected against the clouds."


These two sentences are alike in more than their poetic sense, their length and their gracefully layered structure.  They tabulate nearly identically on the Flesch Reading Ease Score (FRES), something of a standard in the field.


The "Fugitive Days" excerpt scores a 54 on reading ease and a 12th grade reading level.  The "Dreams'" excerpt scores a 54.8 on reading ease and a 12th grade reading level.  Scores can range from 0 to 121, so hitting a nearly exact score matters.


A more reliable data-driven way to prove authorship goes under the rubric "cusum analysis" or QSUM.  This analysis begins with the measurement of sentence length, a significant and telling variable.  To compare the two books, I selected thirty-sentence sequences from Dreams and Fugitive Days, each of which relates the author's entry into the world of "community organizing."


"Fugitive Days" averaged 23.13 words a sentence.  "Dreams" averaged 23.36 words a sentence.  By contrast, the memoir section of "Sucker Punch" averaged 15 words a sentence.


Interestingly, the 30-sentence sequence that I pulled from Obama's conventional political tract, Audacity of Hope, averages more than 29 words a sentence and clocks in with a 9th grade reading level, three levels below the earlier cited passages from "Dreams" and "Fugitive Days." The differential in the Audacity numbers should not surprise.  By the time it was published in 2006, Obama was a public figure of some wealth, one who could afford editors and ghost writers. 


The publisher of Dreams, the openly liberal Peter Osnos, tells how this came to be.  According to Osnos, Dreams took off during Obama's much-publicized race for the U.S. Senate in 2004, nearly ten years after its modest release.   After winning the election, Obama dumped his devoted long time agent, Jane Dystel, and signed a seven-figure deal with Crown, using only a by-the-hour attorney.


Obama pulled off the deal before being sworn in as Senator, this way to avoid the disclosure and reporting requirements applicable to members of Congress. To his credit, Osnos publicly scolds Obama for his "ruthlessness" and "his questionable judgment about using public service as a personal payday."

Unfortunately, the technology is not currently available to do a fully reliable authorship analysis.  As expert in the field Patrick Juola of Duquesne University observed,  “The accuracy simply isn't there.”  He cautioned that for high stakes issues like this one, “The repercussions of a technical error could be a disaster (in either direction).”

That much said, preliminary QSUM analysis supports an Ayers-Obama link.  Systems designer Ed Gold--with twenty years of high-level experience in image and signal processing, pattern recognition, and classifier design and implementation--volunteered to run a QSUM scan on multiple excerpts from both memoirs. “I have completed the analysis,” he wrote me, “and I think you will be pleased with the findings.” In assessing the signature of sample passages from Dreams, he found “a very strong match to all of the Ayers samples that I processed.”

Like Juola, Gold recognized the limitations of the process and of his own resources. He has volunteered to make the raw data available to more established authorship authentication experts, and I will be happy to pass that data along.  Gold saw the complementary value, however, in text analysis, as did Juola, who encouraged me “to do what you're already doing . . . good old-fashioned literary detective work.”

Given that advice, I dug deeper into both memoirs and established one metaphoric thread that ties the two books together in a way I believe is just shy of conclusive, a thread that leads back to Bill Ayers's stint, after dropping out of college, as a merchant seaman.


"I'd thought that when I signed on that I might write an American novel about a young man at sea," says Ayers in his memoir, Fugitive Days, "but I didn't have it in me."


The experience had a powerful impact on Ayers.  Years later, he would recall a nightmare he had while crossing the Atlantic, "a vision of falling overboard in the middle of the ocean and swimming as fast as I could as the ship steamed off and disappeared over the horizon."


Although Ayers has tried to put his anxious ocean-going days behind him, the language of the sea will not let him go. "I realized that no one else could ever know this singular experience," Ayers writes of his maritime adventures.  Yet curiously, much of this same nautical language flows through Obama's earth-bound memoir.


"Memory sails out upon a murky sea," Ayers writes at one point.  Indeed, both he and Obama are obsessed with memory and its instability.  The latter writes of its breaks, its blurs, its edges, its lapses.  Obama also has a fondness for the word "murky" and its aquatic usages.   


"The unlucky ones drift into the murky tide of hustles and odd jobs," he writes, one of four times "murky" appears in Dreams.  Ayers and Obama also speak often of waves and wind, Obama at least a dozen times on wind alone.  "The wind wipes away my drowsiness, and I feel suddenly exposed," he writes in a typical passage.  Both also make conspicuous use of the word "flutter."


Not surprisingly, Ayers uses "ship" as a metaphor with some frequency.  Early in the book he tells us that his mother is "the captain of her own ship," not a substantial one either but "a ragged thing with fatal leaks" launched into a "sea of carelessness."


Obama too finds himself "feeling like the first mate on a sinking ship." He also makes a metaphorical reference to "a tranquil sea."  More intriguing is Obama's use of the word "ragged" as an adjective as in the highly poetic "ragged air" or "ragged laughter."


Both books use "storms" and "horizons" both as metaphor and as reality. Ayers writes poetically of an "unbounded horizon," and Obama writes of "boundless prairie storms" and poetic horizons-"violet horizon," "eastern horizon," "western horizon."


Ayers often speaks of "currents" and "pockets of calm" as does Obama, who uses both as nouns as in "a menacing calm" or "against the current" or "into the current." The metaphorical use of the word "tangled" might also derive from one's nautical adventures.  Ayers writes of his "tangled love affairs" and Obama of his "tangled arguments."


In Dreams, we read of the "whole panorama of life out there" and in Fugitive Days, "the whole weird panorama."  Ayers writes of still another panorama, this one "an immense panorama of waste and cruelty."  Obama employs the word "cruel" and its derivatives no fewer than fourteen times in Dreams. 


On at least twelve occasions, Obama speaks of "despair," as in the "ocean of despair." Ayers speaks of a "deepening despair," a constant theme for him as well.  Obama's "knotted, howling assertion of self" sounds like something from the pages of Jack London's "The Sea Wolf."


In Obama's defense, he did grow up in Hawaii.  Still, the short Hawaii stretch of his memoir is largely silent on the island's natural appeal. Sucker Punch again offers a useful control.  It makes no reference at all, metaphorical or otherwise, to ships, seas, oceans, calms, storms, wind, waves, horizons, panoramas, or to things howling, fluttering, knotted, ragged, tangled, or murky.  None.  And yet I have spent a good chunk of every summer of my life at the ocean.


If there is any one paragraph in Dreams that has convinced me of Ayers' involvement it is this one, in which Obama describes the Black Nationalist message:


"A steady attack on the white race...  served as the ballast that could prevent the ideas of personal and communal responsibility from tipping into an ocean of despair."


As a writer, especially in the pre-Google era of Dreams, I would never have used a metaphor as specific as "ballast" unless I knew exactly what I was talking about.  Seaman Ayers most surely did. 


One more item of interest.  In his 1997 book, A Kind and Just Parent, Bill Ayers walks the reader through his Hyde Park neighborhood and identifies the notable residents therein.  Among them are Muhammad Ali, “Minister” Louis Farrakhan (of whom he writes fondly),  “former mayor” Eugene Sawyer, “poets” Gwendolyn Brooks and Elizabeth Alexander, and “writer” Barack Obama.

In 1997, Obama was an obscure state senator, a lawyer, and a law school instructor with one book under his belt that had debuted two years earlier to little acclaim and lesser sales.  In terms of identity, he had more in common with mayor Sawyer than poet Brooks.  The “writer” identification seems forced and purposefully so, a signal perhaps to those in the know of a persona in the making that Ayers had himself helped forge.


None of this, of course, proves Ayers' authorship conclusively, but the evidence makes him a much more likely candidate than Obama to have written the best parts of Dreams.


The Obama camp could put all such speculation to rest by producing some intermediary sign of impending greatness -- a school paper, an article, a notebook, his Columbia thesis, his LSAT scores -- but Obama guards these more zealously than Saddam did his nuclear secrets.  And I suspect, at the end of the day, we will pay an equally high price for Obama's concealment as Saddam's.


Jack Cashill is the author, among other books, of Hoodwinked:  How Intellectual Hucksters Hijacked American Culture.  He has a Ph.D. in American studies from Purdue University.
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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2011, 07:58:21 AM »
The Obama camp could put all such speculation to rest by producing some intermediary sign of impending greatness -- a school paper, an article, a notebook, his Columbia thesis, his LSAT scores -- but Obama guards these more zealously than Saddam did his nuclear secrets.  And I suspect, at the end of the day, we will pay an equally high price for Obama's concealment as Saddam's.

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2011, 08:28:20 AM »
333 - that article by Cahill was written before the 2008 election

why do you still care about this now?  How is this any kind of relevent issue

It's f'ng hilarious how you and dopes like you are still getting suckered by Ayers

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2011, 08:36:39 AM »
333 - that article by Cahill was written before the 2008 election

why do you still care about this now?  How is this any kind of relevent issue

It's f'ng hilarious how you and dopes like you are still getting suckered by Ayers

Again - you ignore the analysis and reality and attack the messenger.  You have nothing left.   Your messiah and emporer has been shown wth no clothes.

And my interest in this is based on the book by Cashill as well as the fact that Ayeres mentioned this again.

STRAW - NO COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS, NO LAST, NO LAW REVEW ARTICLE, NO SCHOLARLY ARTICLES, NO JOURNAL ENTRIES, NO HIGH SCHOOL ARTICLES, NO COLLEGE THESIS, NOTHING AT ALL. 


Yet - somehow you still believe Obama wrote this book and is otherwise a top notch author.  got it.    ::)  ::)     

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #79 on: March 28, 2011, 08:47:36 AM »
Andersen Book Blows Ayers' Cover on 'Dreams' (updated)
Jack Cashill

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In his new book, "Barack and Michelle: Portrait of an American Marriage," Best-selling celebrity journalist, Christopher Andersen, has blown a huge hole in the Obama genius myth without intending to do so.


Relying on inside sources, quite possibly Michelle Obama herself, Andersen describes how Dreams came to be published -- just as I had envisioned it in my articles on the authorship of Dreams.  With the deadline pressing, Michelle recommended that Barack seek advice from "his friend and Hyde Park neighbor Bill Ayers."


To flesh out his family history, Obama had taped interviews with various family members.  Andersen writes, "These oral histories, along with a partial manuscript and a truckload of notes, were given to Ayers." Andersen quotes a Hyde Park neighbor, "Everyone knew they were friends and that they worked on various projects together.  It was no secret. Why would it be? People liked them both."


Andersen continues, "In the end, Ayers's contribution to Barack's Dreams From My Father would be significant--so much so that the book's language, oddly specific references, literary devices, and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers's own writing."


More to come!

Update: Ron Radosh takes up the case.
 

Finally, Christopher Andersen concludes: "In the end, Ayers's contribution to Barack's Dreams From My Father would be significant - so much so that the book's language, oddly specific references, literary devices, and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers's own writing."

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #80 on: March 28, 2011, 08:50:48 AM »
May 24, 2009
Who Wrote Dreams and Why It Matters
By Jack Cashill

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/who_wrote_dreams_and_why_it_ma_1.html


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While waiting for America's publishers to find their nerve, I had put my research into the authorship of Barack Obama's 1995 memoir Dreams From My Father on the back shelf.  But then I heard Chris Matthews.


The Hardball host was weighing in on the subject of Sarah Palin's new book deal.  "Sarah Palin - now don't laugh - is writing a book," sneered Matthews. "Not just reading a book, writing a book."


"Actually in the word of the publisher she's "collaborating" on a book," Matthews continued.  "What an embarrassment! It's one of these ‘I told you,' books that jocks do. You know she's already declared, I mean, why they do it like this? ‘She can't write, we got a collaborator for her.'"


I dedicate what follows to Matthews and those willfully blind souls like him.  It is a work in progress, a collective one at that, aided and abetted by nearly a score of volunteer co-conspirators from Hawaii to Ohio to Israel to Australia.  The thesis is simple enough: Barack Obama needed substantial help to write his 1995 memoir, Dreams From My Father.  Moreover, unlike Sarah Palin, Obama chose to conceal the identity of his collaborator and not without good reason. To admit that he needed a collaborator would have undercut his campaign for president and to reveal the name of that collaborator would have ended it.


My involvement in this occasionally harrowing literary adventure began in July 2008, entirely innocently.  A friend sent me some short excerpts from Dreams and asked if they were as radical as they sounded.   I bought the book, located the excerpts, and reported back that, in context, the excerpts were not particularly troubling.


But I did notice something else. The book was much too well written. I had seen enough of Obama's interviews to know that he did not speak with anywhere near the verbal sophistication on display in Dreams.


About six weeks later, for entirely unrelated reasons, I picked up a copy of Bill Ayers 2001 memoir, Fugitive Days. Ayers, I discovered, writes very well and very much like "Obama."


In mid-September, after considerable digging, I wrote a few speculative articles for American Thinker and other online journals and discovered that I was not alone in my suspicions.


Looking for some scientific verification, I consulted Patrick Juola of Duquesne, a leading authority in the field of literary forensics.  Juola, however, advised me against relying on computer analysis on a subject this sensitive. "The accuracy just isn't there," he told me. He encouraged me instead "to do what you're already doing . . . good old-fashioned literary detective work."  I took his advice.


The first question I had to resolve was whether the 33 year-old Barack Obama was capable of writing what Time Magazine has called "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician."  The answer is almost assuredly "no."


In his bestselling study of success, Outliers, Malcolm Gladwell painstakingly lays out what he calls the "ten-thousand-hour rule."  Gladwell quotes neurologist Daniel Levitin to the effect that "ten thousand hours of practice [in any subject] is required to achieve the level of mastery associated with being a world-class expert" and cites example after example to make his case.


Obama appears to have lopped about 9900 hours off that standard.  In Dreams, he speaks of writing only the occasional journal entry and some "very bad poetry."  He does not sell himself short on the poetry. From his undergraduate poem, "Underground":


Under water grottos, caverns


Filled with apes


That eat figs.


Stepping on the figs


That the apes


Eat, they crunch.


The apes howl, bare


Their fangs, dance . . .


If possible, Obama's early prose showed less promise than his poetry.  Although the Obama camp has been notoriously shy about releasing proof of Obama's assumed genius-SAT scores, LSAT scores, transcripts, theses-I was able to unearth three essays in print that predate Dreams.


In March 1983, Obama wrote an 1800-word article, "Breaking the War Mentality," for Columbia University's weekly news magazine, Sundial.   Five years later, he wrote an essay titled "Why Organize," which was reprinted in a 1990 book called After Alinsky: Community Organizing in Illinois.


In the Sundial article there are an appalling five sentences in which the subject noun does not agree with the verb.  In some sentences, like the following, the punctuation and word selection are as random as the grammar: "The belief that moribund institutions, rather than individuals are at the root of the problem, keep SAM's energies alive."


Although "Why Organize" seems to be better edited, in neither of these two clunky essays does Obama turn a single phrase that is clever, concise, or even vaguely memorable. In 1990, he wrote an unsigned student case comment for the Harvard Law Review.  The prose here, although reasonably well edited, is even more dull and leaden.


It was not Obama's style but his election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review in 1990-more of a popularity than a literary contest-that netted him a roughly $125,000 advance for a proposed book.  According to a 2006 article by liberal publisher Peter Osnos, Simon & Schuster canceled the contract when Obama could not deliver, despite a sojourn to Bali to help him write.


It was about this time that Bill Ayers entered the picture. "I met [Obama] sometime in the mid-1990s." he would later tell Salon.  "And everyone who knew him thought that he was politically ambitious. For the first two years, I thought, his ambition is so huge that he wants to be mayor of Chicago."


Obama needed help, and Ayers had the means, the motive, and the ability to provide it.  Unlike Obama, he has a well-established paper trail.  He co-authored the 1974 tract,  "Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism, in which book, by the way, he misspells Frantz Fanon's first name as "Franz" just as Obama does in Dreams, and nearly twenty books thereafter as writer and editor.


Ayers, we know, provided an informal editing service for like-minded friends in the neighborhood.  Aspiring radical Rashid Khalidi attests to this in the acknowledgements in his 2004 book, Resurrecting Empire. "Bill was particularly generous in letting me use his family's dining room table to do some writing for the project." Khalidi did not need the table.  He had one of his own.  He needed the help.  Having no political ambitions, Khalidi was willing to acknowledge it.


Dreams  was published in June 1995. That same year, Ayers was busy fueling the ambitions of his young protégé, first with an appointment to the chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge grant and later with a fundraiser in his Chicago home.  Ayers admits that his "imagination ran out of steam." He thought he was launching a mayor that he could exploit, even control, not a president, who would move quickly beyond his grasp.


After Dreams was published in 1995, Obama's typewriter fell silent once again.  He contributed not one signed word to any law journal or other publication of note until his unexceptional and conspicuously ghosted 2006 book, Audacity of Hope.  Obama was not a writer.  As his lame inaugural address proved, he still isn't.


It is possible that Obama actually met Ayers in New York in the early 1980s.  In his brief New York sojourn, he often seems to be channeling the thoughts and experiences of the world weary Ayers who lived in New York the same years as Obama. "Like a tourist, I watched the range of human possibility on display," writes Obama in Dreams, "trying to trace out my future in the lives of the people I saw, looking for some opening through which I could re-enter."


Re-enter? This seems more the reflection of a soon to be ex-fugitive than that of a Columbia undergrad.  It is in New York too that Obama feels himself living "behind enemy lines," the exact phrase that Ayers uses to describe his life in the underground.


The opening scene of Dreams takes place in the early 1980s in and around Obama's New York City apartment with its "slanting" floors.  As the scene unfolds, Obama is making breakfast "with coffee on the stove and two eggs in the skillet."  In Fugitive Days, Ayers inhabits an apartment with "sloping floors." He too cooks a lot -- his books are rich with often sensual food imagery -- and uses a "skillet," a southern regionalism.


Obama tells the reader that the buzzer downstairs did not work and that visitors had to call from a pay phone at the corner gas station.  There, "A black Doberman the size of a wolf paced through the night in vigilant patrol, its jaws clamped around an empty beer bottle."


Fugitive Days opens at a pay phone.  (Unless specified otherwise, all Ayers' references will be to Fugitive Days and Obama's to Dreams). Ayers spent much of his underground years waiting at pay phones.   He writes about pay phones with the loving detail art critics reserve for Picassos.  The vivid image of the Doberman almost assuredly comes from his experience.  Obama had no reason to use that pay phone, if it even existed.


Obama shared his apartment with a roommate, who would scream "with impressive rage" at "white people" whose dogs pooped on their sidewalks.  Adds Obama, ""We'd laugh at the faces of both master and beast, grim and unapologetic as they hunkered down to do the deed."


Both Ayers and Obama speak of "rage" the way that Eskimos do of snow -- in so many varieties, so often, that they feel the need to qualify it, here as "impressive rage," elsewhere in Dreams as "suppressed rage" or "coil of rage," and in Fugitive Days as "justifiable rage," "uncontrollable rage," "blind rage," "and, of course, "Days of Rage."


Another note of interest is that all of the distinctive words in the sentence above -- "master," "beast," "grim," "unapologetic," and "deed," as well as the phrase "hunkered down" -- appear in Fugitive Days.


In the opening pages, Obama makes an exception to his unlikely New York "solitude" for an elderly neighbor, a "stooped" gentleman who wore a "fedora."  In Fugitive Days, it was Ayers' grandfather who is "stooped" and a helpful stranger who wears a "fedora."


One day, Obama's roommate finds his neighbor dead, "crumpled up on the third-floor landing, his eyes wide open, his limbs stiff and curled up like a baby's."  Ayers tells of watching his mother die, "eyes half open, curled up and panting." In both cases, the eyes are "open" and the body is "curled up."


On the neighbor's mantelpiece, Obama reports seeing "the faded portrait of a woman with heavy eyebrows and a gentle smile."  There are seven references to "eyebrows" in Dreams -- heavy ones, bushy ones, wispy ones, and six in Fugitive Days -- bushy ones, flaring ones, arched ones, black ones. 


Who writes about eyebrows?  In the lengthy excerpts that I have gathered from a half dozen other contemporary political memoirs -- 150,000 words in all -- there is no mention of "eyebrows" at all.  Nor is there anyone or anything "stooped," "curled," "crumpled," "hunkered down," or wearing a "fedora."


At the climax of the opening sequence, Obama receives a phone call.  It comes from an African aunt.  "Listen, Barry, your father is dead," she tells him.  Obama has a hard time understanding. "Can you hear me?" she repeats. "I say, your father is dead." The line is cut, and the conversation ends abruptly.


The opening sequence of Fugitive Days climaxes in nearly identical fashion.  This phone call comes from Ayers' future wife, Bernardine Dohrn. "Diana is dead," says Dohrn of Ayers' lover Diana Oughton, killed in a bomb blast.  Ayers has a hard time understanding. "Diana is dead," she "repeats slowly." Ayers drops the line, and the conversation ends abruptly.


At the conclusion of Dreams' opening scene, a stunned Obama "sat down on the couch, smelling eggs burn in the kitchen, staring at cracks in the plaster, trying to measure my loss."  This passage features Obama's signature rhetorical flourish, the triple parallel without a joining conjunction.  There are scores of such examples throughout Dreams, perhaps hundreds:


"...the mixed blood, the divided soul, the ghostly image of the tragic mulatto trapped between two worlds."


"Her face powdered, her hips girdled, her thinning hair bolstered, she would board the six-thirty bus to arrive at her downtown office before anyone else."


"...his eyes were closed, his head leaning against the back of his chair, his big wrinkled face like a carving stone."


As it happens, Ayers' signature rhetorical flourish, likely cribbed from Joseph Conrad, is the triple parallel without a joining conjunction. There are scores of such examples throughout Fugitive Days, perhaps hundreds:


"He inhabited an anarchic solitude-disconnected, smart,obsessive."


"We swarmed over and around that car, smashing windows, slashing tires, trashing lights and fenders-it seemed the only conceivable thing to do."


"...trees are shattered, doors ripped from their hinges, shorelines rearranged."


More intriguing still, Obama seems to borrow the one girlfriend in the oddly sexless Dreams from Ayers' experience. "There was a woman in New York that I loved," he tells his half-sister years after the fact.  "She was white. She had dark hair, and specks of green in her eyes."


The woman of Obama's memory evokes images of Diana Oughton.  As her FBI files attest, Oughton had brown hair and green eyes.  The two women shared similar family backgrounds as well.  In fact, they seemed to have grown up on the very same estate.


"The house was very old, her grandfather's house," Obama writes of his girlfriend's country home.  "He had inherited it from his grandfather." According to a Time Magazine article written soon after her death, Oughton "brought Bill Ayers and other radicals" to the family homestead in Dwight, Illinois. The main house on the Oughton estate, a 20-room Victorian mansion, was built by Oughton's father's grandfather.


The carriage house, in which Oughton lived as a child, now serves as a public library.  It may have already seemed like one when Ayers visited, an impression that finds its way into Obama's memory of a library "filled with old books and pictures of the famous people [the grandfather] had known-presidents, diplomats, industrialists."


"It was autumn, beautiful, with woods all around us," Obama writes of his visit to his girlfriend's country home, "and we paddled a canoe across this round, icy lake full of small gold leaves that collected along the shore."  As can be seen from aerial photos even today, the Oughton estate also has a small lake and is surrounded by woods.


Curiously, Obama tells the story of this past love while cutting "two green peppers." In his 1997 book, A Kind And Just Parent, Ayers specifically links "green peppers" with "saltpeter" and other substances that scare young men with the threat of impotence.  Go figure.


Ayers lived a considerably more adventurous life than Obama, beginning with his youthful days as a merchant seaman in the North Atlantic.  "I realized that no one else could ever know this singular experience," Ayers writes.  Yet much of the nautical language that flows through Fugitive Days flows through Obama's earth-bound memoir.


Although there are only the briefest of literal sea experiences in Dreams, the following words appear in both Dreams and in Ayers' work: fog, mist, ships, seas, boats, oceans, calms, captains, charts, first mates, storms, streams, wind, waves, anchors, barges, horizons, ports, panoramas, moorings, tides, currents, and things howling, fluttering, knotted, ragged, tangled, and murky.


My own memoir on race, Sucker Punch, offers a useful control.  It makes no reference at all, metaphorical or otherwise, to any of the above words save "current" and "tides." Yet I have spent a good chunk of every summer of my life at the ocean and many a day on a boat.


Ayers equates the flow of water with that of language.  "The debates swam above and around and through us," he writes.  "The confrontation in the [Student Union] flowed like a swollen river in to the teach-in, carrying me along the cascading waters from room to room, hall to hall, bouncing off boulders."


In Dreams, Obama makes the very same equation. "I heard all our voices begin to run together, the sound of three generations tumbling over each other like the currents of a slow-moving stream," he writes, "my questions like rocks roiling the water, the breaks in memory separating the currents, but always the voices returning to that single course, a single story."


For the one and only time in his career, Obama writes in the language of postmodernism, a language the academic Ayers has mastered.  Ayers describes Fugitive Days as "a memory book," one that deliberately blurs facts and changes identities and makes no claims at history. In Dreams, Obama admits, some characters are composites. Some appear out of precise chronology. Names have been changed. 


Ayers seems consumed with lies, lying and what he calls "our constructed reality."  The Obama of Dreams says much the same and in much the same language. "But another part of me knew that what I was telling them was a lie," he writes, "something I'd constructed from the scraps of information I'd picked up from my mother." 


That they both speak of "narratives," "traps," "contradictions," "intimacies," and "journeys" is not exceptional.  That is standard postmodern patois.  What is exceptional is their shared use of advanced postmodern slang -- the "fictions" into which they and others force their lives, the "grooves" into which they have fallen, the "poses" they assume, and even the "stitched together" nature of the lives they or their relatives lead. 


More convincing still are those complex tropes in Dreams that appear, only slightly altered, in Ayers' books.  In his 1993 book, To Teach, Ayers writes, "Education is for self-activating explorers of life, for those who would challenge fate, for doers and activists, for citizens." "Training," on the other hand, "is for slaves, for loyal subjects, for tractable employees, for willing consumers, for obedient soldiers."


In Dreams, these thoughts find colloquial expression in the person of "Frank," the real life poet, pornographer and Stalinist, Frank Marshall Davis. "Understand something, boy," Frank tells the college-bound Obama. "You're not going to college to get educated. You're going there to get trained."  Both authors make the point that "training" strips the individual of his racial identity.


In To Teach, Ayers recounts the story of an ambitious teacher who takes her students out to the streets of New York to learn about its culture and history. These students ask to see the nearby Hudson River. When they get to the river's edge, one student says, " Look, the river is flowing up." A second student says, "No, it has to flow south-down."  Upon further research, the teacher discovers "that the Hudson River is a tidal river, that it flows both north and south, and they had visited the exact spot where the tide stops its northward push." 


In Dreams, written two years later, Obama takes an unlikely detour to the exact spot on the parallel East River where the north-flowing tide meets the south-flowing river. There, improbably, a young black boy approaches this strange man and asks, "You know why sometimes the river runs that way and then sometimes it goes this way?"  Obama tells the boy it "had to do with the tides."


For the literary left, the fact that Ayers helped Obama would be a less troubling revelation than that Obama needed help at all.  They have built a foundational myth around his genius, a genius that can be located only in Dreams.  The dark side of the Democrat genius mythology, of course, is the Republican dunce mythology of which Sarah Palin and George Bush are the most recent victims.


There is thus a logic to the left's willful blindness.  Why the literary right has accepted this charade continues to baffle me.


Video: The Washington Times asks Ayers about his "collaboration" with Obama on "Dreams From My Father."


Jack Cashill has written six books this decade, one of which, "Hoodwinked," dealt with literary fraud.  Cashill has also served as "literary doctor" on several other books, two of which were best sellers by household names.  He has a Ph.D. in American studies from Purdue University.



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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #81 on: March 28, 2011, 09:03:29 AM »
Again - you ignore the analysis and reality and attack the messenger.  You have nothing left.   Your messiah and emporer has been shown wth no clothes.

And my interest in this is based on the book by Cashill as well as the fact that Ayeres mentioned this again.

STRAW - NO COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS, NO LAST, NO LAW REVEW ARTICLE, NO SCHOLARLY ARTICLES, NO JOURNAL ENTRIES, NO HIGH SCHOOL ARTICLES, NO COLLEGE THESIS, NOTHING AT ALL. 


Yet - somehow you still believe Obama wrote this book and is otherwise a top notch author.  got it.    ::)  ::)     

LoL @ "analysis"

clearly Obama doesn't even exist at all and is obviously just a hologram/mass hypnotism by Communist China

seriously man - why don't you take Ayers up on his offer to help prove that he wrote the book.   He already offered to share the royalties with the dipshit in your video (and I guess you missed the audlence laughing at that comment)

dude - this could be your big breakthough case and think about it for a minute.  You'd be making money while also discrediting Obama.   

How can you pass that up man?


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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2011, 09:18:21 AM »
I just read through that and honestly, it's weak at best.  He uses specific words as evidence i.e. Obama said ship twice and Ayres 4 times, ergo Aryes wrote it.  He had more of a case when he talked about the advance and lack of a book for a few years.  He tends to come off as more of a kook looking for something that isn't there but finding any connection, word count, words used and so forth.  I would imagine there are countless books with the exact same word count and usage of aquatic references.  Often times you can make a case for anything if your evidence level is so low.  Plus he writes for one of the major birther sites.  He's not exactly without an agenda here.
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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2011, 09:26:54 AM »
I just read through that and honestly, it's weak at best.  He uses specific words as evidence i.e. Obama said ship twice and Ayres 4 times, ergo Aryes wrote it.  He had more of a case when he talked about the advance and lack of a book for a few years.  He tends to come off as more of a kook looking for something that isn't there but finding any connection, word count, words used and so forth.  I would imagine there are countless books with the exact same word count and usage of aquatic references.  Often times you can make a case for anything if your evidence level is so low.  Plus he writes for one of the major birther sites.  He's not exactly without an agenda here.

You think 333 gives a shit.. if a crack headed psycho mental patient said obama had a tail... this prick would create a thread about it

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2011, 09:27:31 AM »
I just read through that and honestly, it's weak at best.  He uses specific words as evidence i.e. Obama said ship twice and Ayres 4 times, ergo Aryes wrote it.  He had more of a case when he talked about the advance and lack of a book for a few years.  He tends to come off as more of a kook looking for something that isn't there but finding any connection, word count, words used and so forth.  I would imagine there are countless books with the exact same word count and usage of aquatic references.  Often times you can make a case for anything if your evidence level is so low.  Plus he writes for one of the major birther sites.  He's not exactly without an agenda here.

333 has posted this crap many times before

I'm honestly amazed this guy is a lawyer considering how he's constantly making unsubstantiated claims and when pushed for evidence offers nothing but hearsay, conjecture, etc...

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #85 on: March 28, 2011, 09:32:56 AM »
LoL @ "analysis"

clearly Obama doesn't even exist at all and is obviously just a hologram/mass hypnotism by Communist China

seriously man - why don't you take Ayers up on his offer to help prove that he wrote the book.   He already offered to share the royalties with the dipshit in your video (and I guess you missed the audlence laughing at that comment)

dude - this could be your big breakthough case and think about it for a minute.  You'd be making money while also discrediting Obama.   

How can you pass that up man?




So again - you ignore everything else.   Got it.      Cashill is lying, ayeres is lying, Anderson is ying, etc.  Its only obama telling the truth.   


 

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #86 on: March 28, 2011, 09:33:33 AM »
Obama drones trying to boost each other up with e-high fives while 333 destroys the Messianic-like image they hold of their God-King. Haha.

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #87 on: March 28, 2011, 09:38:03 AM »
Again - how does someone go from literally writing nothing in their entire life, no record, no SAT, LSAT, nothing - and then out of nowhere write two books?


It defies all common sense and logic on all levels. 

 

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #88 on: March 28, 2011, 09:40:55 AM »

So again - you ignore everything else.   Got it.      Cashill is lying, ayeres is lying, Anderson is ying, etc.  Its only obama telling the truth.    

It's got nothing to do with lying

he offers no proof

more importantly, why are you passing up the opportunity of a lifetime

you can make money (maybe you can finally move out of the ghetto), discredit Obama and become a GetBig hero.

Take Ayers up on his offer to help prove he wrote the book

Should be easy for you

You've already proved it here (right) so all you have to do is cut and paste and then cash your check




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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #89 on: March 28, 2011, 09:46:09 AM »
It's got nothing to do with lying

he offers no proof

more importantly, why are you passing up the opportunity of a lifetime

you can make money (maybe you can finally move out of the ghetto), discredit Obama and become a GetBig hero.

Take Ayers up on his offer to help prove he wrote the book

Should be easy for you

You've already proved it here (right) so all you have to do is cut and paste and then cash your check







Its a theory, and there is plenty of circumstantial evidnce to support it.   Between andersons' reporting, ayeres statements, the similiarity of the writing, thereality ofobama's inability to do this, it defies all common sense and logic that the messiah could write these two books.   

Soory Straw - you are way too smitten with the false narrative you still buy in to to see the liklihood of all of this.     

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #90 on: March 28, 2011, 09:47:41 AM »
Straw Man is an arrogant, elitist Bay-area liberal. They're not capable of thinking for themselves. Hell, tying their sneakers in the morning is a stretch for most of them.

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #91 on: March 28, 2011, 09:48:01 AM »
Question to morons like Straw, et. al-- Why is President Osama concealing all of his academic records, birth certificate, etc. and spending millions of his own money to do so?

If you can answer that question with even a scintilla of intellectual honesty and objectivity you will be forced to acknowledge that there is clearly something amiss with your Messiah's background.

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #92 on: March 28, 2011, 09:48:12 AM »


Its a theory, and there is plenty of circumstantial evidnce to support it.   Between andersons' reporting, ayeres statements, the similiarity of the writing, thereality ofobama's inability to do this, it defies all common sense and logic that the messiah could write these two books.   

Soory Straw - you are way too smitten with the false narrative you still buy in to to see the liklihood of all of this.     

I'm not smitten with anything

you've proven nothing

what don't you understand about that

and again, if you believe it is true why don't you take Ayers up on his offer ?

contact him today and tell him you're ready to help prove he wrote the book


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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #93 on: March 28, 2011, 09:49:10 AM »
Question to morons like Straw, et. al-- Why is President Osama concealing all of his academic records, birth certificate, etc. and spending millions of his own money to do so?
If you can answer that question with even a scintilla of intellectual honesty and objectivity you will be forced to acknowledge that there is clearly something amiss with your Messiah's background.

I don't know that he is spending millions to do so

maybe you can offer some proof


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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #94 on: March 28, 2011, 09:51:02 AM »
Question to morons like Straw, et. al-- Why is President Osama concealing all of his academic records, birth certificate, etc. and spending millions of his own money to do so?

If you can answer that question with even a scintilla of intellectual honesty and objectivity you will be forced to acknowledge that there is clearly something amiss with your Messiah's background.

The academic records is plainly obvious:

1.  Obama got into Columbia and Harvard via affirmatve action and/or special assitance from Khalid Al Mansour as wel as others who pushed barry through.  

2.  His SAT & LSAT will show even with affirmative action hewas not qualified for those schools.  

3.  His writings,  if they exist, are sub par or radical marxian nonsense, or both.    

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #95 on: March 28, 2011, 09:53:06 AM »
The academic records is plainly obvious:

1.  Obama got into Columbia and Harvard via affirmatve action and/or special assitance from Khalid Al Mansour as wel as others who pushed barry through.  

2.  His SAT & LSAT will show even with affirmative action hewas not qualified for those schools.  

3.  His writings,  if they exist, are sub par or radical marxian nonsense, or both.    

so you now claim to know what the records which you haven't seen (and have seemed to suggest don't even exist) will show?

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2011, 09:53:50 AM »
Straw Man is an arrogant, elitist Bay-area liberal. They're not capable of thinking for themselves. Hell, tying their sneakers in the morning is a stretch for most of them.

But this "guy" 3333 posts opinions of conservative bloggers as fact.. and on top of that when he is proven wrong he wont even retract
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his rates increased due to obamacare..

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so thinking for himself isnt his strong suit either

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #97 on: March 28, 2011, 10:42:34 AM »
Again - how does someone go from literally writing nothing in their entire life, no record, no SAT, LSAT, nothing - and then out of nowhere write two books?


It defies all common sense and logic on all levels. 

 

Perhaps he did have a ghost writer.  Perhaps he actually wrote them.  The claim of Ayres doing anything on the book is little more than a conspiracy theory at best.  Nothing credible has been shown other than specific exerts likely chosen because of similarities that would prove his case.  Like i said it's a weak connection at best. 

It'd be more credible if he went after obama for having an unnamed ghost writer.  But the Ayres connection is nothing more than a birther esque CT.  Coming from a writer for a birther site, what else can you expect?
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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #98 on: March 28, 2011, 10:46:10 AM »
ghost writers usually get paid

you'd think Ayers would have negotiated some part of the income from books sales for all his work
or at the very least a flat fee

seems kind of obvious

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Re: Bill Ayeres: "I wrote Dreams of My Fathers"
« Reply #99 on: March 28, 2011, 10:46:35 AM »
Perhaps he did have a ghost writer.  Perhaps he actually wrote them.  The claim of Ayres doing anything on the book is little more than a conspiracy theory at best.  Nothing credible has been shown other than specific exerts likely chosen because of similarities that would prove his case.  Like i said it's a weak connection at best. 

It'd be more credible if he went after obama for having an unnamed ghost writer.  But the Ayres connection is nothing more than a birther esque CT.  Coming from a writer for a birther site, what else can you expect?

Well that is the object of discussion in the video I posted and a good point overall.  Ayeres helped Khlalid Rashidi, also a neighbor of obama and ayeres ghost write his book and rashidi thanked him for it.  

I think the issue was that obama was under contract and probably could not admit to a ghost writer to the publisher.


Again - it defies all logic and common sense that obama did not havea ghost writer for this.