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Title: better than yates
Post by: slaveboy1980 on May 31, 2008, 08:22:08 PM
dillet 



better than yates
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Ex Coelis on May 31, 2008, 08:26:30 PM
Jurrasic Paul was great, to be sure

Weider signed him straight out of the gym before he even stepped on an amateur stage

Sergio Oliva said that with his guidance, he would have made Dillet a 10x Mr. Olympia

Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 31, 2008, 08:27:33 PM
wow.. Unreal size and no gut to speak of!  :o
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2008, 08:30:59 PM
could not pose for the life of him,could not get in true contest shape compared to his peers,and his back was poor and had to be compared to yates in that dept was a nail in the coffin.great to sell mags,guest pose,and thats all,a old school dennis james.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 31, 2008, 08:41:22 PM
Some insane bodyparts but it's like a bunch of meat was slapped on a stick. Looks weak, poor 'core', no back.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on May 31, 2008, 08:46:46 PM
Some insane bodyparts but it's like a bunch of meat was slapped on a stick. Looks weak, poor 'core', no back.

Most of us would be happy to have a core that is that "poor" ???
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: pumpster on May 31, 2008, 09:51:11 PM
could not pose for the life of him,could not get in true contest shape compared to his peers,and his back was poor and had to be compared to yates in that dept was a nail in the coffin.

These are the stock excuses, mostly easily rebutted. The truth is the Dillet had fewer flaws than Yates and others, and dominated Yates from both front and sides. The biggest problem was that like other BBs of the era, he wasn't white, just as Schwarzenegger would beat Oliva in questionable judging decades earlier.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: England_1 on May 31, 2008, 10:14:35 PM
These are the stock excuses, mostly easily rebutted. The truth is the Dillet had fewer flaws than Yates and others, and dominated Yates from both front and sides. The biggest problem was that like other BBs of the era, he wasn't white, just as Schwarzenegger would beat Oliva in questionable judging decades earlier.

Quit with the verbal diarrhea already. This confirms that you truly are delusional - I doubt Dillet was ever higher than 4th or 5th at an Olympia - and for good reason. His physique and presentation has massive flaws.

For example, pecs with no thickness from the side due to weak training, a complete lack of thickness from the front except when he can cover it up in a most-muscular with all arms. The problems from the backside are well documented. Never mind the lats with no thickness and the cutless thighs. This all yields far from an Mr. Olympia worthy physique - it had nothing to do with race.


(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/34492-3/1996-mr-olympia-18.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=2b243c4a90c6b4ae0d57c3d2aa1aa6d5)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/3806-10/1993-mr-olympia-17.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=2b243c4a90c6b4ae0d57c3d2aa1aa6d5)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/3820-11/1993-mr-olympia-21.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=2b243c4a90c6b4ae0d57c3d2aa1aa6d5)


Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: body88 on May 31, 2008, 10:17:01 PM
These are the stock excuses, mostly easily rebutted. The truth is the Dillet had fewer flaws than Yates and others, and dominated Yates from both front and sides. The biggest problem was that like other BBs of the era, he wasn't white, just as Schwarzenegger would beat Oliva in questionable judging decades earlier.

Haha, tell that to Lee Haney . What did he win EIGHT O's before Yates started winning his? Did Weider and co give Haney his titles because he was black?
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Danimal77 on May 31, 2008, 10:28:13 PM
These are the stock excuses, mostly easily rebutted. The truth is the Dillet had fewer flaws than Yates and others, and dominated Yates from both front and sides. The biggest problem was that like other BBs of the era, he wasn't white, just as Schwarzenegger would beat Oliva in questionable judging decades earlier.

So it's true, you really are racist and ignorant and dumb as fuck.

BTW, Dillett is half white.  ::)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Big Worm on May 31, 2008, 10:51:14 PM
Just put up a pic of Coleman ,and close the thread ..
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Hypo on May 31, 2008, 11:35:46 PM
You can tell Dillet never knew how to pose. Look at the difference in back width from the front dbl bi and the rear double bi that England_1 posted.

He shook like nothing else when he posed and couldn't hold it.

BTW, anyone posted footage of him freezing at the ASC on youtube yet? I wouldn't mind knowing what the commentators said about the incident.  ;)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 01, 2008, 02:33:24 AM
Dillet is overrated on this board.
Sure he had a slim waist but it didnt mean he was aesthetic, he couldn't even beat Levrone, Shawn Ray, Flex or Nasser yet alone Dorian Yates.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: local hero on June 01, 2008, 04:41:46 AM
totaly agree.... he was top 5 back in the golden era,,, would never place ahead of the other greats unless they had a bad day...
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 01, 2008, 06:15:12 AM
These are the stock excuses, mostly easily rebutted. The truth is the Dillet had fewer flaws than Yates and others, and dominated Yates from both front and sides. The biggest problem was that like other BBs of the era, he wasn't white, just as Schwarzenegger would beat Oliva in questionable judging decades earlier.

Stock excuses my ass , his conditioning sucked not only compared to Yates but to almost everyone else , his back was a major liability his posing sucked he couldn't hold a mandatory for anything


pumpster always pulls out the race card when his ebony heros are beaten by white guys lol hey pumpster whats your excuse for the following?

1993 Arnold Classic - Dillett 4th two black guys and one Cuban ahead of him
1993 Ironman - Dillett 4th again two black guys and one Cuban ahead of him
1994 Grand Prix France - 2nd place beating by you guessed it a black guy
1994 Grand Prix Italy - 2nd place behind a black guy
1996 Arnold Classic - 3rd place beaten by two black guys
1996 Grand Prix Czech - 3rd place beaten by a black guy and a Egyptian
1996 Grand Prix Russia - 4th place behind a black , white and a Egyptian
1996 Grand Prix Switzerland - 2nd behind a Egyptian
1996 Ironman - 2nd behind a black guy
1996 San Jose Pro - 2nd behind you guessed it a black guy
1997 Arnold Classic - 6th behind 3 black guys one white ( NOT Yates ) and a Egyptian
1997 Grand Prix Czech - 6th behind 3 black guys , one white ( NOT Yates ) and a Egyptian
1997 Grand Prix England - 4th behind 2 black guys and 1 Arab/Egyptian
1997 Grand Prix Finland - 5th behind three blacks and 1 Arab/Egyptian
1997 Grand Prix Germany - 4th behind 1 black guy , 1 white ( NOT Yates ) and 1 Egyptian
1997 Grand Prix Hungary - 4th behind 1 black guy , 1 white ( NOT Yates ) and 1 Egyptian
1997 Grand Prix Russia - 5th behind 3 blacks guys and 1 Arab/Egyptian
1997 Grand Prix Spain - 4th behind 1 white guy ( NOT Yates ) 1 black guy and 1 Egyptian
1997 Ironman Pro - 5th behind 3 black guys and 1 white guy ( NOT Yates )
1997 San Jose Pro - 5th behind 2 white guys ( neither Yates ) 1 black and 1 Egyptian
1998 Olympia - DID NOT PLACE
1999 Mr Olympia - 7th behind 5 black guys and 1 Egyptian
2000 Night of the Champions - 3rd behind 2 white guys ( Yates was long retired )
2002 Night of the Champions - 6th behind 3 whites guys ( Yates long retired ) 1 black and 1 Puerto Rican
2002 Southwest Pro - 8th behind 3 black guys 2 white  ( Yates long retired ) , 1 Puerto Rican and 1 Lebanese
2003 Grand Prix Hungary - 14th behind a mix of everyone you get the point Yates was long since retired
2006 Montreal Pro - 10th see above

your cries of racism are unfounded and nothing more than an excuse for his poor showings in ALL of the contests above none of which Dorian Yates was part of , Dillett was routinely beaten by other black bodybuilders for a very good reason.

Dillett competed in 40 IFBB Pro Contests and only won just 3 he only face Dorian 10 times out of his 40 contests so in 30 separate contests in which Dorian was NOT a part of he just managed to win 3 times what does that tell you? it tells you he wasn't good enough to beat Yates , and most of the time anyone else black or white or other , Dillett great size & structure but never could live up to his potential

I know you wont bother to respond to this because you can't you have no way to defend your race excuse in the face of that overwhelming evidence , you'll just offer up some lame excuse of ' politics ' or ' race ' to try and save face but most of know you're a racist and hate Dorian just based on his skin color

but the bottom line is Dillett wasn't good enough to beat , Flex Wheeler , Shawn Ray , Vince Taylor , Kevin Levrone , Ronnie Coleman , Chris Cormier nevermind Dorian Yates.

pumpster the racist = owned  ;)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 01, 2008, 06:46:40 AM
haha nice one ND

I often wonder if people like pumpster post these kind of comments just to create controversy or perhaps they think its really true.
Seriously, its just common sense that Dillet wasn't as good as Yates.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: the_doc on June 01, 2008, 08:55:15 AM
Couldn't pose back properly. Made himself look smaller when posing somehow. Back was not wide enough or detailed in some poses compared to his crazy shoulders and arms. 
However, his back was not small and people need to get real here. look at pics from NOC 1999 when he won and Marcus Rhuul and dexter were 3rd and 4th I think. His rear lat spread while not in great condition made him look huge next to the others.
In best condition his legs(hams, quads and calves) were propably in the top 3 ever and better than coleman and yates considering all factors ie size compared to calves and upper body. Also probably smallest waist and least distension on a superfreak.

the Doc
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: BayGBM on June 01, 2008, 08:58:54 AM
Impressively big with relatively tiny waist.  With the right mentor he could/should have been Mr. O.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Earl1972 on June 01, 2008, 09:56:50 AM
scariest bodybuilder ever, the music at the beginning of his routine really fit him

btw he is half white

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Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 01, 2008, 10:40:40 AM
With the right mentor he could/should have been Mr. O.

There's nothing anyone could have done to help him. You cannot teach posing. The back wasn't subpar because of neglect.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Mars on June 01, 2008, 10:47:52 AM
(http://i27.tinypic.com/260scio.jpg)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Camel Jockey on June 01, 2008, 10:52:48 AM
(http://i27.tinypic.com/260scio.jpg)

hahaha

Good one, Marcel.  ;D
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: arce377 on June 01, 2008, 01:05:58 PM
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Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 01, 2008, 01:30:00 PM
haha nice one ND

I often wonder if people like pumpster post these kind of comments just to create controversy or perhaps they think its really true.
Seriously, its just common sense that Dillet wasn't as good as Yates.

Thanks !  no pumpster actually believes the nonsense he posts he's claimed the same about Arnold as well and every time a white guy beats a black one it couldn't possibly be fair it was a fix

Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 01, 2008, 03:47:48 PM
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is that your brain activity?
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: ToxicAvenger on June 01, 2008, 05:08:55 PM
tonnes of volume...no density..
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 01, 2008, 05:11:11 PM
tonnes of volume...no density..

kinda like your farts according to slempi
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Dreadlord on June 02, 2008, 01:22:55 AM


Another yates thread.. YAY ::)

Yates as a topic is starting to become as tiresome as Nasser.  :-\
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: CigaretteMan on June 02, 2008, 12:23:53 PM
  Dillet was very impressive while doing the hands clasped pose from he front due to his incredbly wide shoulders and huge arms, but that was about it. He appeared to have far more muscle than he actually did due to his huge varicose veins. For instance, his pecs were extemely thin and underdeveloped, and they appeared to be freaky only because of the sick vascularity it had. While this worked from the front, he disappeared from the sides, because both his pecs and lats lacked thickness, due to Dillet's reliance on cables and machines for his training and avoidance of free weights. While you can get massive arms and shoulders with machine&cable training, you can't get massive pecs and back without free weights. You just can't. And here lied all of Dillet's physique problems.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Sharma on June 02, 2008, 12:28:12 PM
so many bodybuilders were better than that vile piece of torn shit. its crazy. the Yates lovers (always whites who try to deny his racist youth) say stupid things like 'yates had the best back' 'he looked grainy' 'you have to see him in person' etc..

no, he was a hideous monstrosity who stole and cheated his way to numerous Olympias

Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: CigaretteMan on June 02, 2008, 12:32:38 PM
so many bodybuilders were better than that vile piece of torn shit. its crazy. the Yates lovers (always whites who try to deny his racist youth)

  The irony of this coming from you. How can you call anyone a racist without blushing? :-[ Have you got no shame? :-\ You are the worst racist in the whole board, and you prefer Nasser only because he has Arab blood like you and you hate white people. And Dorian never had a racist past. Get over it and stop lying.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Dreadlord on June 02, 2008, 11:48:13 PM


Nasser was ashamed of his arab heritage. He always entered BB comps as a Yugoslavian. His own father never supported or encouraged him so Nashole had to turn to Joe  Weider - who became his new father.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: pumpster on June 03, 2008, 02:39:03 AM
He appeared to have far more muscle than he actually did due to his huge varicose veins.

Assine deduction/rationalization/excuse. Talking out of one's ass to the extreme.

Other than that, yes. ::)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: England_1 on June 03, 2008, 03:11:08 AM
fuck, Yates is like a man among boys in this shot. The thickness advantage over all, including Dillet, is just amazing. It's a shame that shot cut off the legs as Yates' perfectly balanced and massive legs would have been even more dominant.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=217414.0;attach=255499;image)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Hulkster on June 03, 2008, 03:44:39 AM
  Dillet was very impressive while doing the hands clasped pose from he front due to his incredbly wide shoulders and huge arms, but that was about it. He appeared to have far more muscle than he actually did due to his huge varicose veins. For instance, his pecs were extemely thin and underdeveloped, and they appeared to be freaky only because of the sick vascularity it had. While this worked from the front, he disappeared from the sides, because both his pecs and lats lacked thickness, due to Dillet's reliance on cables and machines for his training and avoidance of free weights. While you can get massive arms and shoulders with machine&cable training, you can't get massive pecs and back without free weights. You just can't. And here lied all of Dillet's physique problems.

damn man   ::)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: m8 on June 03, 2008, 03:50:27 AM
Assine deduction/rationalization/excuse. Talking out of one's ass to the extreme.

Other than that, yes. ::)

LOL! Dorian is DOMINATING on that shot! And it's far from his best pose.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: CigaretteMan on June 03, 2008, 07:00:35 AM
damn man 

  What? Dillet's pecs were thin and underdeveloped, and they only looked big due to his ugly varicose veins.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: TrueGrit on June 03, 2008, 07:03:08 AM
Assine deduction/rationalization/excuse. Talking out of one's ass to the extreme.

Other than that, yes. ::)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=217414.0;attach=255499;image)

Pumpster..are you saying that Dorian is not dominating everyone in that shot?

To me it looks like he's the man and the others are boys  ???
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: njflex on June 03, 2008, 08:16:41 AM
THATS a good shot and you know what labrada was a good bber,big arms for little guy.leverone was a moster but lacked a good lat flair,yates lats were hang gliders unreal,rest of him other than calves were so/so ,he did not have good natural muscle shape at all.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Earl1972 on June 03, 2008, 09:39:25 AM
fuck, Yates is like a man among boys in this shot. The thickness advantage over all, including Dillet, is just amazing. It's a shame that shot cut off the legs as Yates' perfectly balanced and massive legs would have been even more dominant.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=217414.0;attach=255499;image)

you must be looking at a different pic then me, yates has a thicker waist and small arms

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Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 03, 2008, 09:42:48 AM
Not really Earl, Dorians arms look as big as Levrone's there.
His chest is also thicker than the rest
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Earl1972 on June 03, 2008, 09:48:07 AM
Not really Earl, Dorians arms look as big as Levrone's there.
His chest is also thicker than the rest

his arms look as big as Mr. Levrone's ???

one arm looks small and has poor shape, the other arm is nonexistent

also based on that photo Mr. Levrone's legs appear to have much deeper cuts

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Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 03, 2008, 09:54:05 AM
his arms look as big as Mr. Levrone's ???

one arm looks small and has poor shape, the other arm is nonexistent

also based on that photo Mr. Levrone's legs appear to have much deeper cuts

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Levrone is standing closer to the camera, both guys had arms roughly the same size.
Kevin had relatively huge arms for his frame and had good shape but his forearms were smaller than Yates.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: m8 on June 03, 2008, 09:55:37 AM
Dorian's forearms were outstanding in the FDB.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 03, 2008, 12:22:00 PM
Assine deduction/rationalization/excuse. Talking out of one's ass to the extreme.

Other than that, yes. ::)

You would know about talking out your ass ! and I love how you offer no rebuttal to anyones assessment only blanket statements and stories of racism and politics you know nothing about competitive bodybuilding .

Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 03, 2008, 12:27:48 PM
Levrone is standing closer to the camera, both guys had arms roughly the same size.
Kevin had relatively huge arms for his frame and had good shape but his forearms were smaller than Yates.

Great post ! Kevin's was all delts & arms his torso ( at that times ) lagged behind and Dorian is murdering everyone in that shot according to the IFBB judging criteria

balanced development , muscular bulk , muscle density , muscle dryness and posing & presentation as a whole Dorian is the clear winner in this and every other pose in that contest 1993 Dorian was untouchable and to quote the great Samir Bannout " Dorian was first , second and third. "

Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 03, 2008, 12:29:50 PM
Dorian's forearms were outstanding in the FDB.

Great post !  and this is all part & parcel of balance just because most fans don't care about proportionate forearms doesn't mean the judges don't.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: _bruce_ on June 03, 2008, 12:40:02 PM
Dillet was unique - he didn't need a trainer but a babysitter.
100% monster... even facewise.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: England_1 on June 03, 2008, 02:46:01 PM
you must be looking at a different pic then me, yates has a thicker waist and small arms

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Kevin looks like a little baby in that shot compared to Yates, soft and lacking density.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 03, 2008, 03:43:57 PM
Yates is far better than no Olympia, synthol boy Levrone
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 03, 2008, 03:46:10 PM
Yates is far better than no Olympia, synthol boy Levrone

 ::)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 03, 2008, 03:49:11 PM
::)

Great counter argument. Baby press the smiley buttons
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 03, 2008, 03:58:06 PM
Great counter argument. Baby press the smiley buttons

There is no argument, unless you can prove that Levrone had synthol in his body you can only speculate.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: England_1 on June 03, 2008, 04:00:21 PM
Also note that Dorian's right forearm is bigger than Lee's upper arm  :o

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=217414.0;attach=255499;image)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 03, 2008, 04:28:10 PM
Also note that Dorian's right forearm is bigger than Lee's upper arm  :o

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=217414.0;attach=255499;image)

lol you have your cock as deep in yates ass as hulkster has his in ronnies girl.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 03, 2008, 04:32:19 PM
There is no argument, unless you can prove that Levrone had synthol in his body you can only speculate.

thats all anyone can ever do. i could say the same about Valentino.
Levrone shot his delts and triceps full of synthol.

Levrone 0 Olympias and never ever beat Dorian. He isnt even worthy of comparison
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: pumpster on June 03, 2008, 06:05:57 PM
Also note that Dorian's right forearm is bigger than Lee's upper arm  :o



Thanx for the reminder-here you have even the flea looking like Oliva next to Yates lol
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 03, 2008, 06:25:59 PM
Thanx for the reminder-here you have even the flea looking like Oliva next to Yates lol


pictures can be misleading try other and see if you come to the same conclusion  ;)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: pumpster on June 03, 2008, 06:46:23 PM

pictures can be misleading try other and see if you come to the same conclusion  ;)

lol Labrada looks better there too. :P
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: CigaretteMan on June 03, 2008, 07:01:00 PM
lol Labrada looks better there too. :P

  It is really entertaining how much you hate Yates. Every time someone makes a positive comment about him, you just have to interject in a pseudo-authoritarian fashion and tell them that they are wrong, and how shitty Dorian was. Why is this so important to you? Why don't you just let it go and stop trying to force your opinion on others? Seriously, you should read your posts about Dorian when you are calm and relaxed and then you will realize just how angry and upset you get when you talk about him. You talk about him in a way that makes it seem like you almost take it as a personal insult that he won, and your aggressive tone indicates that you give this topic an importance and relevance that it doesen't have.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 03, 2008, 07:02:28 PM
lol Labrada looks better there too. :P

yeah sure he does thats why he was in 1st he looks better to you because you hate Yates and does he look like " Oliva ' compared to Yates now? I don't think so , I will continue to expose you and your nonsense

they both look like children compared to Dorian !
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Earl1972 on June 03, 2008, 07:20:26 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=217414.0;attach=255592;image)

wow this is a levrOWNING :o

just as big and much more aesthetic than yates, the man who killed bodybuilding

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Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Earl1972 on June 03, 2008, 07:22:36 PM
Levrone is standing closer to the camera, both guys had arms roughly the same size.
Kevin had relatively huge arms for his frame and had good shape but his forearms were smaller than Yates.

uh no their arms weren't roughly the same size, Mr. Levrone's arms dwarf his

oh and he actually has two of them :o

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Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 04, 2008, 06:30:49 PM
uh no their arms weren't roughly the same size, Mr. Levrone's arms dwarf his

oh and he actually has two of them :o

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 ::)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Danimal77 on June 05, 2008, 12:09:39 AM
you must be looking at a different pic then me, yates has a thicker waist and small arms

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Sorry, but Yates arms are no smaller than Levrone's in that pic. The only thing I can and will give props to Dillett in that shot, are his HUGE arms, but again, I think that Dorian's arms were better than Levrone's up until and including 1993. His waist may have been blockier, but it wasn't comparable to Ronnie's or Gutlers.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Earl1972 on June 05, 2008, 01:49:04 PM
Sorry, but Yates arms are no smaller than Levrone's in that pic. The only thing I can and will give props to Dillett in that shot, are his HUGE arms, but again, I think that Dorian's arms were better than Levrone's up until and including 1993. His waist may have been blockier, but it wasn't comparable to Ronnie's or Gutlers.

yes they are and feel free to post the pic of them both hitting the hand clasped most muscular, that is if you want to witness a levrOWNING 8)

and do you not see that dorian is missing one arm ::)

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Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: CigaretteMan on June 05, 2008, 02:25:14 PM
yes they are and feel free to post the pic of them both hitting the hand clasped most muscular, that is if you want to witness a levrOWNING

and do you not see that dorian is missing one arm

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  I'm a huge Kevin fan and I agree that he was the major contender for the Olympia crown in the 1990s - not Wheeler or Ray -, but the bottom line is that, as good as Kevin was in 1995, he wouldn't defeat Dorian in the best shape of his career. As for 1994, I wouldn't have a problem with Kevin winning, although Dorian was still great.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: sculpture on June 05, 2008, 02:38:51 PM
yeah sure he does thats why he was in 1st he looks better to you because you hate Yates and does he look like " Oliva ' compared to Yates now? I don't think so , I will continue to expose you and your nonsense

they both look like children compared to Dorian !

Again like most of your pics they do nothing to support your argument and actually more than often disprove your suppositions.

In teh bottom pic yates looks like shit.

Least quad flair, widest wide and slumped shoulders
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 05, 2008, 02:57:34 PM
Again like most of your pics they do nothing to support your argument and actually more than often disprove your suppositions.

In teh bottom pic yates looks like shit.

Least quad flair, widest wide and slumped shoulders

Oh jesus the fan-boys are out in full force and I hate to break it to you sport ! the pictures do prove my point and my point was Labrada most certainly does NOT look like " Oliva ' compared to Yates in 1992 if you think so I wont even bother responding I will just laugh

and who cares what the bottom pic shows? all the mandatory poses showed how much better leaps & bounds better Dorian was in direct comparison to his contemporaries and your responses are typical of an average fan who bases their opinion on what they prefer in a physique. the judges  have a set of criteria they adhere to and Dorian clearly satisfied that criteria better than everyone , deal with it.  ;)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 05, 2008, 03:03:32 PM
Amen ND. Some of these bitches cant take the fact that Yates KILLED their fanboy.

Levrone, flea , Nasser even coleman. none of these guys could touch Dorian , in his prime or not, he destroyed them all HAHAHA
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 05, 2008, 03:07:42 PM
Amen ND. Some of these bitches cant take the fact that Yates KILLED their fanboy.

Levrone, flea , Nasser even coleman. none of these guys could touch Dorian , in his prime or not, he destroyed them all HAHAHA

Right and the keyword is their ' fanboy ' these guys take a look at their heros in bodybuilding and base what should win contests based on their preference not on the IFBB judging criteria because 99% of them don't have any idea what so ever on how contests are judged .
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: OTHstrong on June 05, 2008, 03:09:22 PM
Paul Dillet= No striations
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: CigaretteMan on June 05, 2008, 03:47:33 PM
  I saw the 1994 Olympia on video and those who claim Dorian was off are crazy. He was off by his stadard, yes, but he was still harder than 99% of bodybuilders on their best day.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 05, 2008, 04:45:40 PM
  I saw the 1994 Olympia on video and those who claim Dorian was off are crazy. He was off by his stadard, yes, but he was still harder than 99% of bodybuilders on their best day.

Exactly he was off from 1993 which speaks volumes about how great 93 was ! this is from 1994
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Hulkster on June 05, 2008, 07:03:20 PM
  I saw the 1994 Olympia on video and those who claim Dorian was off are crazy. He was off by his stadard, yes, but he was still harder than 99% of bodybuilders on their best day.

maybe so.

but shawn ray matched or even surpassed him in conditioning that night.

shawn was razor sharp in 94.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 05, 2008, 07:13:33 PM
maybe so.

but shawn ray matched or even surpassed him in conditioning that night.

shawn was razor sharp in 94.

Its easy to be 205 pounds dry & hard a whole other story to be 262 pounds in the same condition , its called bodybuilding being 205 pounds is a liability compared to someone who can match or surpass you in the conditioning department especially when they're much heavier

Shawn's physique while aesthetically pleasing is LACKING directly compared to Dorian , lacking muscular bulk , and balance & proportion ( see Shawn's long torso , short legs and narrow clavicles )

he's very , very lucky he beat Levrone nevermind Yates
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Earl1972 on June 06, 2008, 08:24:50 AM
Right and the keyword is their ' fanboy ' these guys take a look at their heros in bodybuilding and base what should win contests based on their preference not on the IFBB judging criteria because 99% of them don't have any idea what so ever on how contests are judged .

the ifbb's judging criteria is the whole reason bodybuilding sucks today, they choose the ugliest and least marketable physique's

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Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: OTHstrong on June 06, 2008, 01:12:18 PM
the ifbb's judging criteria is the whole reason bodybuilding sucks today, they choose the ugliest and least marketable physique's

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Looks and marketability shouldn`t judge the show either, the physique should
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: IceCold on June 06, 2008, 03:26:59 PM
These are the stock excuses, mostly easily rebutted. The truth is the Dillet had fewer flaws than Yates and others, and dominated Yates from both front and sides. The biggest problem was that like other BBs of the era, he wasn't white, just as Schwarzenegger would beat Oliva in questionable judging decades earlier.


blatant use of race card which no one cares about.

only a bitter minority would make such a stupid remark.

Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: pumpster on June 06, 2008, 03:30:48 PM

blatant use of race card which no one cares about.

only a bitter minority would make such a stupid remark.



Continue living in that fantasy skinhead bubble in which contest results are fair. Very few others choose to delude themselves. ;D
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 06, 2008, 03:32:42 PM
Continue living in that fantasy skinhead bubble in which contest results are fair. Very few others choose to delude themselves. ;D


Stop projecting your race-hating on everyone else you and your dumb excuses were utterly crushed go play with your power-rod
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: OTHstrong on June 06, 2008, 03:42:49 PM
Continue living in that fantasy skinhead bubble in which contest results are fair. Very few others choose to delude themselves. ;D
Contest are not always fair but this has nothing to do with race. 16 out of the 24 Olympias belong to a black champ. There is nothing more I hate then some sore loser blaming the outcome of a show on race.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: BAZZERKER on June 06, 2008, 04:25:25 PM
levrone was good but his muscle didnt seem dense or too dry , dont get me wrong great bodybuilder. Yates sickest bodybuilder ever to dry out.... MItght not have the most appealing physique but how can you not love the front and rear latewings. !!! :o
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: England_1 on June 06, 2008, 04:51:22 PM
Contest are not always fair but this has nothing to do with race. 16 out of the 24 Olympias belong to a black champ. There is nothing more I hate then some sore loser blaming the outcome of a show on race.

Pumpster owned again, pithy
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Earl1972 on June 06, 2008, 07:15:35 PM
Looks and marketability shouldn`t judge the show either, the physique should

i was talking about his physique

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Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: PRO Chemical on June 07, 2008, 06:25:51 AM
yup Dillet is better
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Hulkster on June 07, 2008, 06:39:19 AM
Yates was as overrated as you can get.

he was 1/2 a great Mr. O.

great from the back.

nothing special from the front... :-X
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 07, 2008, 06:47:39 AM
Yates was as overrated as you can get.

he was 1/2 a great Mr. O.

great from the back.

nothing special from the front... :-X

Nothing special from the front lol easily dismissed and corrected stop trolling jackass he also crushed everyone from the side as well
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Hulkster on June 07, 2008, 06:54:39 AM
lol I love that most muscular where dorian is trying so hard to flex his quad as if it is good, yet there is no detail and is calf is practically bigger LOL

man his arms suck too :-X
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 07, 2008, 06:59:32 AM
lol I love that most muscular where dorian is trying so hard to flex his quad as if it is good, yet there is no detail and is calf is practically bigger LOL

man his arms suck too :-X

Yeah you loved that most muscular so much when it was first posted you cried and cried about how it was photoshopped lol that pictured crushed you and still does

and I love how you can't refute one thing and just gp on the attack ( old news ) but A'las I'll continue to expose you as a no-nothing with your help of course lol  ;)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: pumpster on June 07, 2008, 07:00:06 AM
Nothing special from the front lol easily dismissed and corrected stop trolling jackass he also crushed everyone from the side as well

From the side better bwahaahaha...ND who admits a preference for "attractive white BBs" walking into yet more doors.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Hulkster on June 07, 2008, 07:02:33 AM
Yeah you loved that most muscular so much when it was first posted you cried and cried about how it was photoshopped lol that pictured crushed you and still does

and I love how you can't refute one thing and just gp on the attack ( old news ) but A'las I'll continue to expose you as a no-nothing with your help of course lol  ;)

the pics do all the refuting for us ND

why do you think dorian has such a bad rep as being overrated?

every day there are threads showing that far 'lesser' people were actually better (at least from the front)

there is a damn good reason for this, in case you didn't know..
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 07, 2008, 07:06:07 AM
From the side better bwahaahaha...ND who admits a preference for "attractive white BBs" walking into yet more doors.

Hey all the nutt-huggers are here this a.m . lol I never claimed I have a preference for ' attractive white BBs ' now you're just lying because you don't have anything else to work with  ;) and your strawmen pictures prove your bias and stupidity which both are easily refutable

and yet another example of pumpster ( ironic name while on the subject lol ) projecting his homosexual tendencies on others , wasn't it YOU who bragged about the ' gorgeous transsexuals ' you could have banged? and do you often refer to men dressed like woman as ' gorgeous ' ? please do tell? lol

Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 07, 2008, 07:12:48 AM
the pics do all the refuting for us ND

why do you think dorian has such a bad rep as being overrated?

every day there are threads showing that far 'lesser' people were actually better (at least from the front)

there is a damn good reason for this, in case you didn't know..

Those who bitch about Yates are all ignorant people who's hero's were crushed by Yates , you , pumpster , Neo , Ice , with Ronnie , Sharma , bigbobs with Nasser , Earl with Levrone , you and a host of others with Ray   what other recourse do the losers have? none

anyone who says Yates is overrated is a loser literally lol bottom line Dorian crushed everyone's hero or course he's going to be attacked
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Earl1972 on June 07, 2008, 01:04:31 PM
Those who bitch about Yates are all ignorant people who's hero's were crushed by Yates , you , pumpster , Neo , Ice , with Ronnie , Sharma , bigbobs with Nasser , Earl with Levrone , you and a host of others with Ray   what other recourse do the losers have? none

anyone who says Yates is overrated is a loser literally lol bottom line Dorian crushed everyone's hero or course he's going to be attacked

if dorian actually looked better and didn't look like a hard pile of shit maybe I would give him credit

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Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 07, 2008, 01:19:50 PM
if dorian actually looked better and didn't look like a hard pile of shit maybe I would give him credit

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he doesn't need to impress you just the judges and he did that with ease now if Levrone could find a harmonious balance between side , density & conditioning maybe he's have a shot to beat Dorian , but you got two Kevins the soft big one or the small hard one and neither stood a chance.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: m8 on June 07, 2008, 01:23:40 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=217414.0;attach=256049;image)

Sick shot, only Dorian can dominate the competition with a torn biceps.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 07, 2008, 01:25:48 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=217414.0;attach=256049;image)

Sick shot, only Dorian can dominate the competition with a torn biceps.

hulkster cried the first time that pic was posted he said " photoshopped " lol his hero crushed in his best pose.
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Earl1972 on June 07, 2008, 05:50:13 PM
he doesn't need to impress you just the judges and he did that with ease now if Levrone could find a harmonious balance between side , density & conditioning maybe he's have a shot to beat Dorian , but you got two Kevins the soft big one or the small hard one and neither stood a chance.

this judging criteria you always talk about has been the downfall of the sport i once loved

dorian and the judges are responsible >:(

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Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 07, 2008, 06:03:29 PM
this judging criteria you always talk about has been the downfall of the sport i once loved

dorian and the judges are responsible >:(

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Hey maybe if Levrone got his act together it would be a different story
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Slapper on June 07, 2008, 06:07:50 PM
IMHO the best genetics I've seen in any human being. His problem area was his back. When the guy just stood there everyone kept looking at him in awe, but his posing just utterly sucked. I started buying bodybuilding magazines back in the late 80s because of him.

Oh, and I agree with the people that say that he was better than Yates. Dorian's reign, apart from 92, 93 and 95 was a friggin farce IMO. I do not know WTF happened to Paul. Shit, the man trained while talking on his cell phone and STILL managed to put on bestial size.

If, back in 93, when Yates repackaged his physique, had the judging gone the Wheler/Levrone route bodybuilding would be in a much better place than right now.


Pis.  
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: OTHstrong on June 08, 2008, 03:33:44 AM
IMHO the best genetics I've seen in any human being. His problem area was his back. When the guy just stood there everyone kept looking at him in awe, but his posing just utterly sucked. I started buying bodybuilding magazines back in the late 80s because of him. Oh, and I agree with the people that say that he was better than Yates. Dorian's reign, apart from 92, 93 and 95 was a friggin farce IMO. I do not know WTF happened to Paul. Shit, the man trained while talking on his cell phone and STILL managed to put on bestial size.

If, back in 93, when Yates repackaged his physique, had the judging gone the Wheler/Levrone route bodybuilding would be in a much better place than right now.


Pis.  
Paul was never in a magazine before 1992 :)
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Slapper on June 08, 2008, 06:54:48 AM
Paul was never in a magazine before 1992 :)

Sorry. Should've said early 90s.

 :-[ :-[
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Hulkster on June 08, 2008, 08:27:12 AM
hulkster cried the first time that pic was posted he said " photoshopped " lol his hero crushed in his best pose.

of course I thought it was photoshopped.

its the only shot in existence where dorian's appalling twigs look normal sized... ::)

and the fact that you think that a shot with a calf that overpowers the rest of the shot, piss poor detail in the arms and quads is a good shot )better than ronnie you claim lol) shows exactly why you get owned by everyone in every thread you post it seems..
Title: Re: better than yates
Post by: Hulkster on June 08, 2008, 08:29:41 AM
if dorian actually looked better and didn't look like a hard pile of shit maybe I would give him credit

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no shit.

thats why everyone says he was so overrated.

and its so easy to show with simple pics and videos.

ND keeps typing shit claiming that dorian was something that reality clearly shows he was NOT.

he was nothing special from the front, despite  ND's verbal diarrea