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The UFC has announced a conference call with the media on Thursday at 4 p.m. ET/1 p.m. PT to announce a new television deal. No details were provided so it is unclear if the new deal is a renewal with Spike TV or if there is something else that has been agreed upon with another outlet.
Also, Brock Lesnar, Chuck Liddell, and Wanderlei Silva will all be on the call as well.
In addition to announcing the new TV deal, UFC president Dana White will be introducing Lesnar to the media following his recent addition to the UFC’s heavyweight division.
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this is about the same time as randys press conference, coincidence?! :D
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The UFC has now decided to stream its conference call today online over at Yahoo!Sports.com at 4 p.m. ET
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=207187&cl=4688852&ch=2283876',&39;playerWindow&39;,&39;width=793,height=666,scrollbars=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,status=no,menubar=no&39;));&src=sports
I'm listening to it right now
Dana "I'm Randy's little bitch"
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"fedor sucks. he isnt even top 5 in the world" - dana
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new deal signed with spike tv
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chuck is on the air
wanderlei too
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whats next for forrest?
dana:
"shoulder injury need to get it fixed. he is definitely in line for title shot"
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brock is on the air
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question to wand about the problems other pride fighters had problems fighting in ufc:
wand
"now i only train in the cage in the octagon. fighting is fighting. "
question to wand: after 2 losses, are you ready physically and mentally for another hard fight
wand
"now i train hard. im hungry to win. i wanna come back to the top. and fight with chuck now is the best moment for me. i wanna give a good show for my fans"
question: do you think you got the best years ahead of you being young still
wand
"yeah the next years i wanna come back to the top. next 2-3 years will be the best in my career"
dana talks:
"the deal was never about fedor. it was about his manager.what they would get. they didnt give a shit about what fedors what they gonna get. theyre full of shit"
"theyre full of shit about the numbers too. you know what i mean. fedors manager is a fucking liar"
dana is working himself up and cursing to the left and right ;D
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dana "the odds are stacked against m-1"
"this thing is bigger than money. we'll see what happens. i love randy couture. his home is the ufc. i have him under contract. i always want him with me" - dana
"randy is a grown man he gonna make his own decisions whats best for him and his family. he's pissed at me right now, i dont know what the reasons are."
"canada is coming, we will be in canada in 2008."
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"the training here is so hard. i like living here. very nice place" - wanderlei on being in vegas and training there
wand have you been gambling?
"no no i love my money"
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"the biggest moment ever in this sports history" dana on chuck vs wanderlei
"the stakes are much much higher now"
"the winner of that fight are the top dogs. will be the #1 contender but forrest is in that mix too. and jardine"
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wand see no problem fighting in a cage because he trains with it every day.
brock doesnt have much to say, just wanna get his first ufc fight.
"this whole summer ive worked on my technique. throwing my hands. to be able to submit people. a couple hours a day." - brock
"when i was working for wwe i was 300 pounds now im 266 im training differently, more conditioning, im just trying to do the right thing"
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"i think a lot of people would be interested in see if brock can fight, i think hes gonna bring a lot of wwe fans" - dana
"i train with greg nelson he's my no 1 trainer and the guy who worked with my striking." - brock
"ive done some adjustments but nothing spectacular" chuck on what he's done different since last fight in training
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"the biggest moment ever in this sports history" dana on chuck vs wanderlei
"the stakes are much much higher now"
"the winner of that fight are the top dogs. will be the #1 contender but forrest is in that mix too. and jardine"
I'll never get used to hearing "jardine" and "title shot" in the same sentence
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"everybody knows you cant use steroids. any combat sport you lose the ability for a year. they lose their sponsors. they cant fight they make no money. those are pretty harsh penalties you gotta be an absolute jackass to use steroids in combat sports" - dana on steroids
"no way man" - dana on going public with ufc
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"we'll be back in florida in 2008 for sure"
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"the deal is for total 4 fight nights per year for 3 years with spike" - dana
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I'll never get used to hearing "jardine" and "title shot" in the same sentence
yeah
you listening live?
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yeah
you listening live?
no........
I'd rather just read all the highlights !
;D
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apparantely theyve been on for 1,5 hour so i missed probably half of it
i just thought id quote some of the stuff for people getting online later and i kinda like to chat while listening but seems like you and i are the only guys here
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wand see no problem fighting in a cage because he trains with it every day.
brock doesnt have much to say, just wanna get his first ufc fight.
"this whole summer ive worked on my technique. throwing my hands. to be able to submit people. a couple hours a day." - brock
"when i was working for wwe i was 300 pounds now im 266 im training differently, more conditioning, im just trying to do the right thing"
aka...i'm off the sauce and trying to keep in shape...but dropping weight like dumbells!
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aka...i'm off the sauce and trying to keep in shape...but dropping weight like dumbells!
hehe 300 pounds is a little excessive... will still be biggest in ufc though
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aka...i'm off the sauce and trying to keep in shape...but dropping weight like dumbells!
yeah that guys was a freakin science experiment back in his wwe days......
my best guess is he'll be strong for the first 2 minutes of his first fight in the ufc and he's gonna be gassed into a state of uselessness
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here's some more info
"They are commited to 26 episodes of TUF each year for the next 2 years. 1 season of tuf in 2010 and they are trying to put together a brand new fight show but there isnt much info about what they are trying with that right now. There are other shows in the works that the UFC and SPike think are going to be big hits. "
jesus 26 episodes a year
"-It looks like BJ Penn will possibly be fighting in December "
"-Dana says that every time they have gone to different places they have broken venue records so the reception has been good. "
"-There are plans to go to Chicago next year. As as sson as they are legal in Chicago they will be there. "
"-Dana says that Andre Arlovski has not been forgotten. He is just kind of sittin on the bench right now. Says they are trying to get him back. "
"-DAna says ticket sales for UFC 78 have been great. They plan on selling out. "
"-Dana thinks that they may possibly end up with an HBO deal someday but now is not the time "
"-Brocks first fight will be Superbowl Saturday. "
"-Dana tells a UK reporter that they are working on a TV deal to show live fights in the UK "
"-Dana comments on Frank Warren (UK reporter) saying that the UFC is a flash in the pan. Says Warren is an old school boxing guy and the UFC scares guys like him. "
"-4-5 possible UK shows next year " :o looks like im gonna go again 8)
-Brock is asked if he is glad to be out of the WWE with all of the deaths happening. Brock replies "Absolutely".
-Dana says the 2 biggest reality shows on TV are American Idol and TUF. None of the other shit matters.
Dana is asked about Kurt Angle. Says that Kurt is a good guy and he likes him. Puts over ANgles wrestlings credentials. Thinks that Kurt just wants to jump right from Pro-wrestling and give it a go. Dana says that if Kurt does that he will "get his f***ing ass kicked"
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some more.
-Brock Lesnar opponent is unknown right now but they will be putting him up against someone they feel can test him.
(who? lets speculate!) 8)
-Dana says they will be trying to go to a Latino country soon.
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haha dana saying fedor isnt top 5 hw in the world! wtf ::)
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I didn't know Yahoo was streaming it. Did anyone hear my questions to Dana and Brock? Next-to-last questions of the teleconference if there's a transcript. Hard to get any solid answers out of Brock Lesnar.
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you gotta pay attention to what happens on the mma board! 8)
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some more.
-Brock Lesnar opponent is unknown right now but they will be putting him up against someone they feel can test him.
(who? lets speculate!) 8)
-Dana says they will be trying to go to a Latino country soon.
I'll say Scherner or Eilers
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you gotta pay attention to what happens on the mma board! 8)
I didn't even get my passcode to join the press conference until 4:20! That was a long-ass teleconference. I was really surprised to hear questions from some mainstream media outlets like the Washington Post.
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I didn't even get my passcode to join the press conference until 4:20! That was a long-ass teleconference. I was really surprised to hear questions from some mainstream media outlets like the Washington Post.
yeah well next time pm me and you can use my passcode
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I didn't even get my passcode to join the press conference until 4:20!
that's god telling you that you should get stoned first !
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yeah well next time pm me and you can use my passcode
You didn't have a damn pass code... You live in such a dream world. you have to be press.
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You didn't have a damn pass code... You live in such a dream world. you have to be press.
no shit einstein. it was a joke. ::) but im glad i gave you the opportunity to swing at me again. you haven't since... yesterday.
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yeah that guys was a freakin science experiment back in his wwe days......
my best guess is he'll be strong for the first 2 minutes of his first fight in the ufc and he's gonna be gassed into a state of uselessness
Agreed!
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I disagree that Lesnar will gas. Guys usually gas for one of two reasons: (1) Lack of conditioning; or (2) Anxiety.
Lesnar's conditioning won't be an issue. Wrestlers are usually the best conditioned guys in the Octagon.
His experience on a big stage with the WWE will also help him with the anxiety, only in the sense that he won't be phased by being in the spotlight; however, what he can't prepare for anxiety-wise is the racing of the heart that accompanies someone trying to take your head off. No amount of friendly sparring can substitute for "bad intentions" fighting.
If Lesnar fights smart, he'll use his boxing lessons to learn to defend himself and close the distance and hopefully, he won't think he's Muhammed Ali after a year of hitting the mitts. If he takes the fight down, he's gonna be a nightmare and won't gas. But if he stands too much and takes a few shots, "Rich Franklin Panic Mode" may set in and then no amount of conditioning will help him.
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I disagree that Lesnar will gas. Guys usually gas for one of two reasons: (1) Lack of conditioning; or (2) Anxiety.
Lesnar's conditioning won't be an issue. Wrestlers are usually the best conditioned guys in the Octagon.
His experience on a big stage with the WWE will also help him with the anxiety, only in the sense that he won't be phased by being in the spotlight; however, what he can't prepare for anxiety-wise is the racing of the heart that accompanies someone trying to take your head off. No amount of friendly sparring can substitute for "bad intentions" fighting.
If Lesnar fights smart, he'll use his boxing lessons to learn to defend himself and close the distance and hopefully, he won't think he's Muhammed Ali after a year of hitting the mitts. If he takes the fight down, he's gonna be a nightmare and won't gas. But if he stands too much and takes a few shots, "Rich Franklin Panic Mode" may set in and then no amount of conditioning will help him.
Rich franklin panic mode.......Priceless!!!!!! ;D
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I disagree that Lesnar will gas. Guys usually gas for one of two reasons: (1) Lack of conditioning; or (2) Anxiety.
Lesnar's conditioning won't be an issue. Wrestlers are usually the best conditioned guys in the Octagon.
His experience on a big stage with the WWE will also help him with the anxiety, only in the sense that he won't be phased by being in the spotlight; however, what he can't prepare for anxiety-wise is the racing of the heart that accompanies someone trying to take your head off. No amount of friendly sparring can substitute for "bad intentions" fighting.
If Lesnar fights smart, he'll use his boxing lessons to learn to defend himself and close the distance and hopefully, he won't think he's Muhammed Ali after a year of hitting the mitts. If he takes the fight down, he's gonna be a nightmare and won't gas. But if he stands too much and takes a few shots, "Rich Franklin Panic Mode" may set in and then no amount of conditioning will help him.
I don't know I don't see Brock being very good if a fight passes the second. I could be wrong because some of those wrestlers have hella long matches, but this shit is for real. I think Brock will be good till the middle of two. After that all that muscle will wear his ass down and he gases. IMO I guess we will see. I agree though if he trys to box I see it getting ugly as well. I think he will throw the overhand and shoot in for the double leg. He takes it to the ground holds his opponent to the ground and smashes him with hammer fists. If he does this I think he will win for sure at least his first two fights. You know Dana isn't gonna throw him to the wolves off the bat.
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I don't know I don't see Brock being very good if a fight passes the second. I could be wrong because some of those wrestlers have hella long matches, but this shit is for real. I think Brock will be good till the middle of two. After that all that muscle will wear his ass down and he gases. IMO I guess we will see. I agree though if he trys to box I see it getting ugly as well. I think he will throw the overhand and shoot in for the double leg. He takes it to the ground holds his opponent to the ground and smashes him with hammer fists. If he does this I think he will win for sure at least his first two fights. You know Dana isn't gonna throw him to the wolves off the bat.
I dont see him having much left after a decent pace in rd 1. He caries alot of weight, and the WWE isnt the UFC. I guess we'll see soon enough.
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Unless he wanna go all rounds and leave it to the judges he need to finish the fights... so he need to have a wicked gnp to make that happen...
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Unless he wanna go all rounds and leave it to the judges he need to finish the fights... so he need to have a wicked gnp to make that happen...
I just dont see him going very far for very long. No longjevity (sp)
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I just dont see him going very far for very long. No longjevity (sp)
then his gameplan would be very limited... there used to be a time when wrestlers was successful with gnp... but the question is if those days are not long gone
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Lesnar's conditioning won't be an issue. Wrestlers are usually the best conditioned guys in the Octagon.
His experience on a big stage with the WWE will also help him with the anxiety,
that part was kind of funny
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dana is an idiot.
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dana is an idiot.
****crickets**** ;D
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I think dana's anything BUT an idiot,he's a shrewed businessman who's gonna make a shit load of money and the fighters that produce for him are gonna make probably more than they would doing anything else....
he may be a lot of things but he's certainly not an idiot
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dana done some great stuff and ive told him personally, shaking his hand
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I think dana's anything BUT an idiot,he's a shrewed businessman who's gonna make a shit load of money and the fighters that produce for him are gonna make probably more than they would doing anything else....
he may be a lot of things but he's certainly not an idiot
Never said he's and idiot, Ive said he's a DICK!
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dana done some great stuff and ive told him personally, shaking his hand
...and never washed it since! :D
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...and never washed it since! :D
haha!
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I haven't been paying attention to the brock lesnar bullshit. but once he gets in the octagon I really want him to get knocked out standing up. With blood and teeth coming out of his mouth as he falls on his face.
;D
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I haven't been paying attention to the brock lesnar bullshit. but once he gets in the octagon I really want him to get knocked out standing up. With blood and teeth coming out of his mouth as he falls on his face.
;D
Why so much hate for Lesnar?
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he's only a somebody because of the wwe. the fighters who are established fighters should be in the spotlight not this guy.
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he's only a somebody because of the wwe. the fighters who are established fighters should be in the spotlight not this guy.
Its just mainstream exposure for the sport dude calm down...he will be handed his ass eventually. Plus he's only been training MMA for like 9 minths now.
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Its just mainstream exposure for the sport dude calm down...he will be handed his ass eventually. Plus he's only been training MMA for like 9 minths now.
lol
how much more exposure does ufc/mma need now. Even with the fighters they have now, they should be marketing those fighters not a former wrestler from the wwe. Look at poor matchups they are putting together nothing compared to prides cards. In time I'm sure the cards will get better. Adding lesnar to the mix is a disservice to the high calibre fighters that are already in the ufc and they aren't even using them properly.
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lol
how much more exposure does ufc/mma need now. Even with the fighters they have now, they should be marketing those fighters not a former wrestler from the wwe. Look at poor matchups they are putting together nothing compared to prides cards. In time I'm sure the cards will get better. Adding lesnar to the mix is a disservice to the high calibre fighters that are already in the ufc and they aren't even using them properly.
OMG, someone actually has a brain here! ;D
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bullshit pride wasnt that great
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bullshit pride wasnt that great
hahaha...sho you right!
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hahaha...sho you right!
yeah im right. you're just so big fanboys of pride you forget about the many fights that sucked and the many bad matchings.
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yeah im right. you're just so big fanboys of pride you forget about the many fights that sucked and the many bad matchings.
Please explain, dont just leave it like that Bluto.
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Please explain, dont just leave it like that Bluto.
Well let's take a look at a few examples, how about the last two Pride on japanse soil:
PRIDE 34 - Kamikaze:
Yoshihiro Nakao Edson Draggo - draggo has 3 losses in a row and is now fighting in cage rage
Eric Esch Wagner da Conceicao Martins - that's right, thats eric butterbean... fighting 390 pounds "Zuluzinho" who has 3 losses in a row, they even let this chump fight fedor back in 2005... and nog in 2002... why did pride match their best fighters against people like that?
Makoto Takimoto Zelg Galesic - here comes the japs... pride loved to put a lot of japanse tomato cans on their cards...
Gilbert Yvel Akira Shoji - great to make gilbert fight a jap with 14 wins and 16 losses... ::)
James Thompson Don Frye - another giant card, retarded japs with their love for giants and godzilla..
Shinya Aoki Brian Lo-A-Njoe - aoki is 11-2 and they match him up with brian who is 4-9-2 and got submitted in 1,5 minutes... he has now 4 losses in a row
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou Ricardo Arona - wow finally a decent fight
Jeff Monson Kazuyuki Fujita - last fight of the night, they put the tomatocan fujita up against monson
this is the kinda dreamcard pride delivered that get everyone so worked up? ::)
let's take a look at pride 31, maybe pride 34 was just a bad card?:
PRIDE 31 - Dreamers:
Roman Zentsov Pedro Rizzo - roman got nearly as many losses as wins, but against a washed up rizzo he managed to win. rizzo nowadays fight in art of war, ive yet to hear anyone want him back in ufc.
Quinton Jackson Dong Sik Yoon - rampage, now in ufc, fights yoong a 2-4 record asian
Fabricio Werdum Jon Olav Einemo - decent matchup, werdum went to ufc - and lost against arlovski.
Tsuyoshi Kohsaka Mario Sperry - here we go, one more jap against one more 1990's fighter...
Alistair Overeem Sergei Kharitonov - decent matchup
Josh Barnett Kazuhiro Nakamura - who lost againt machida in ufc, got choked out by barnett
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Kiyoshi Tamura - great another japanse fighter... submitted in 2,5 minutes
Mark Coleman Mauricio Rua - coleman need to retire, who the hell wanna see him anymore, except the japanse...
Mark Hunt Yosuke Nishijima - mark hunt is pretty cool, but who would he fight? yosuke? a japanse tomatocan with 0 wins and 4 losses, thats who!
yeah pride was so SUPERIOR! as we can tell ::)
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Im not saying that Pride was superior, I just said that I prefered Pride over UFC. They both have their times with bad cards...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PRIDE_events (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PRIDE_events)
look at Critcal Countdown, Final conflict, Shockwave, Grand Prix events
bullshit pride sucks. there are highs and lows for everything. Compared to pride everything ufc has done is low lol.
05 total elimination middleweight
Kazuhiro Nakamura vs Kevin Randleman
Kazuhiro Nakamura defeats Kevin Randleman by unanimous decision.
Ricardo Arona vs Dean Lister
Ricardo Arona defeats Dean Lister by unanimous decision.
Yuki Kondo vs Igor Vovchanchyn
Igor Vovchanchyn defeats Yuki Kondo by unanimous decision.
Vitor Belfort vs Alistair Overeem
Alister Overeem defeats Vitor Belfort by submission due to a guillotine choke at 9:06 of Round 1.
Dan Henderson vs Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira defeats Dan Henderson by armbar submission at 8:05 of Round 1.
Yoon Dong-Sik vs Kazushi Sakuraba
Kazushi Sakuraba defeats Dong Sik Yoon by technical knockout (referee stoppage) at 0:38 of Round 1.
Quinton Jackson vs Mauricio Rua
Mauricio Rua defeats Quinton Jackson by knockout at 4:47 of Round 1.
Wanderlei Silva vs Hidehiko Yoshida
Wanderlei Silva defeats Hidehiko Yoshida by split decision.
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the general tone is that pride was superior. before pride fighters went to ufc they would all kick ufc fighters ass - they didnt. so pride fans ended up with a shitload of excuses. and now everytime it's a so-so card in ufc people like to talk about the superior cards of pride, well guess what their cards wasnt that great all the time either. especially considering how many bad matchups there were, the shitload of godzillas, washed up old wrestlers, and japanse fighters who most of them sucked.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PRIDE_events (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PRIDE_events)
look at Critcal Countdown, Final conflict, Shockwave, Grand Prix events
bullshit pride sucks. there are highs and lows for everything. Compared to pride everything ufc has done is low lol.
Lets compare attendance rates
Pride 90,000+
UFC 12-15,000 at best
hmmmmmm................w onder why that is. They couldnt even sell out Arco. 17, 317 seats..... ::)
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the general tone is that pride was superior. before pride fighters went to ufc they would all kick ufc fighters ass - they didnt. so pride fans ended up with a shitload of excuses. and now everytime it's a so-so card in ufc people like to talk about the superior cards of pride, well guess what their cards wasnt that great all the time either. especially considering how many bad matchups there were, the shitload of godzillas, washed up old wrestlers, and japanse fighters who most of them sucked.
I just think youre putting wrds in peoples mouths Bluto!
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all in all pride WOULD put together better fights. they didn't take the time to build up a fight by letting 2 great fighters fight a couple of easier fights before they put them together like the ufc does. there tournaments as listed above put some of the best matches together they had also.
also the yellow cards the ref had where you got money taken if you weren't fighting were great. tim slyvia wouldn't make any money in the ufc if they had those
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all in all pride WOULD put together better fights. they didn't take the time to build up a fight by letting 2 great fighters fight a couple of easier fights before they put them together like the ufc does. there tournaments as listed above put some of the best matches together they had also.
also the yellow cards the ref had where you got money taken if you weren't fighting were great. tim slyvia wouldn't make any money in the ufc if they had those
Theres a shitload of fighters that would be broke in the UFC if they had yellow cards.
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Theres a shitload of fighters that would be broke in the UFC if they had yellow cards.
such as
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such as
Sylvia
Machida
Sherk
Hughes
Sanchez
Koshchek
Monson
Kongo
Florian
Arlovski
Imes
Mir
Starnes
Bisping
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Sylvia
Machida
Sherk
Hughes
Sanchez
Koshchek
Monson
Kongo
Florian
Arlovski
Imes
Mir
Starnes
Bisping
why would they get a yellow card
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For one reason or another they are all boring ass fighters...My opinion Bluto, Im sure you will spend an hour defending each one of them, so lets hear it.
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For one reason or another they are all boring ass fighters...My opinion Bluto, Im sure you will spend an hour defending each one of them, so lets hear it.
im sorry you feel that way
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Sylvia
Machida
Sherk
Hughes
Sanchez
Koshchek
Monson
Kongo
Florian
Arlovski
Imes
i def. don't think hughes, sanchez(even though i don't like him) sherk and florian belong on this list
Mir
Starnes
Bisping
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So youre telling me that Sherk's lay and pray is really dominating. Drop down in weight and still cant finish a damn fight
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I haven't been paying attention to the brock lesnar bullshit. but once he gets in the octagon I really want him to get knocked out standing up. With blood and teeth coming out of his mouth as he falls on his face.
;D
hope it happens to lesnar ;D
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I'm tired of all this pride bullshit... pride is no more.. I'm an mma fan and want to see it last, the only good thing we have now is the ufc we should support them. i was a pride fan, but more so I'm a mma fan and the best mma organization now is the ufc.
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I'm tired of all this pride bullshit... pride is no more.. I'm an mma fan and want to see it last, the only good thing we have now is the ufc we should support them. i was a pride fan, but more so I'm a mma fan and the best mma organization now is the ufc.
Couldn't agree with you more. It's time for all of the Pride Nut-huggers to STFU. :)
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hope it happens to lesnar ;D
heheheh
honestly, he has potential.
Although last night showed he didn't deserve to be there. IMO