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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: DIVISION on September 13, 2007, 11:04:34 AM
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Waking up to a meal, then a series of daily injections, followed by a workout.......nevermind the struggles of daily life....this is your life.
The added burden of the food and drugs you are pouring in to your body, pushing the protein turnover, the waste through your kidneys and liver....
Girlfriend? What time for a girlfriend?
Job? A job outside of bodybuilding? I thought bodybuilding WAS your job?
You mean a job to support your bodybuilding ambitions?
The constant pressure to always be "on", even when your body and your mind want to be on vacation.
......and all of this for what, exactly?
A trophy?
Winning a contest so you can get sponsors and keep furthering the vicious cycle that is professional bodybuilding which runs through bodybuilders like porn goes through women.
After it's all over, what exactly are you left with?
Memories?
Hopefully your health intact, but what of value have you really gained that will stay with you for the rest of your life?
There are a few success stories in professional bodybuilding but many, many more examples of tragedy.
For every Lee Priest, there are ten who don't make it and compromise their health permanently in the process.
I'm not a bodybuilder so I can't relate to the mentality and I don't see the worth in it.......for me it's all about strength and power, not the aesthetics.
For those of you who have pro ambitions, can you explain to me how you justify the choices you make and will have to make in light of many pitfalls that await you? :-X
DIV
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In a word, YES!
I wouldn't call myself a bodybuilder, but from my point of view it really is worth it, i'd say it's worth everything.
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Div, you are portraying the extreme, which I admit lots of guys go to.
There are also guys who will get an education, get a job, have a career, and still manage to do bodybuilding. For them, turning pro is still a goal, but also something of an "optional extra"...
Then there are young guys (18-23) who put everything into bbing and little into school, work, and building their lives, and they are the most at risk. They either make it big, or they crash.
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Many are called and few are chosen sums it up.
the Bar is gettin' So High, its hard to even imagine where its all headed....
400lbs and Ripped 20 yrs from today? :o
I don't think thats impossible. Look at WWE's "The Big Show", a genuine pituitary disorder Giant.
He's what? A little south of 500lbs?
Ok, we know - The human Body can do that much "Naturally" w/ 100% certainty.
What happens when "Research Lab" Genetic alterations become a reality? They will in time.
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Div, you are portraying the extreme, which I admit lots of guys go to.
There are also guys who will get an education, get a job, have a career, and still manage to do bodybuilding. For them, turning pro is still a goal, but also something of an "optional extra"...
Then there are young guys (18-23) who put everything into bbing and little into school, work, and building their lives, and they are the most at risk. They either make it big, or they crash.
Am I portraying the extreme or the reality of what someone chasing an IFBB card will go through.
IT IS EXTREME.
Don't fool yourself in to thinking otherwise.
DIV
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You cant hate on the ones that are tring and even make it.
I feel you thats what you wanna do? go for it.
your better off playing the lottery,
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Who's hating ???
Let's say you're a 23 year old who lives and breathes and sleeps and dreams bodybuilding. You've been training hard, eating well, juicing in heavy doses, and struggling since you were barely 18. Your entire life plan is bodybuilding. You haven't paid much attention to school. Then, at 23, you tear a muscle and your bodybuilding ambitions are basically over, before they had a chance to take off. What then?
The above is a description of a guy I knew. It took him two years to get himself back on track, and he enrolled in law school at 25...
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It's just like any other pursuit in life that is considered out of the norm. I think many bodybuilders understand that in all they are doing, there will be little if any reward other then a pile of worthless trophies...so why do it? Simple, for self-satisfaction...not being content with simply going through life like the other 95%. Sure, there are other avenues you can follow to be in the small minority that gain some sort of self-satisfaction, but for some it's BB..and the risk should be assumed by the individual.
That said, people who choose to live this way should by no means put every last bit of energy they have into the sport...yes give it your all, but everyone has to find time and energy to live, i.e.. pay bills, buy things, etc. Of course if BB is part of the equation, there is a good chance, almost guaranteed that you will not have as much extra money as you would if you didn't participate in the sport, but this is understood by the individual and he accepts this as part of the reality.
I have no pro aspirations...I am in no way delusional. I would imagine I will lift and exercise as long as my body allows, but I know that it will not always be at the extreme like it is now...and because of that I like to think I have and continue to take steps to ensure that when the "hardcore" aspect diminishes, I have paved ways for myself to succeed in other avenues.
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Professional anything = THE BEST OF THE BEST. As Trab stated, many will try, few will make it. Bodybuilding is not just skill,... Its genetics. Not everybody can make it. To hold a pro card is an honor, even if not a champion with it, the holder ws a champion on that givin day when it matterd most. That is something that cant be taken away from anybody, Arnie, titus, long, even kovacks, but palumbo....NO. Would he go tho the extremes to get it;sure... but on that givin day, he was defeated. Bodybuilding is more along the lines of a lifestyle and a game rather than sport. Many elements come into play, technique, diet, drugs, time, $$$, and DISCIPLINE. The pro card is the end of the game, you won, you may now play with the other winners. So the desire may invole consequences, some severe (health related, anti social, family breakups, etc) some not so severe (siezed packs, flu, scar tissues, no libido for the lady, pain). But ones personal quest to defeat that game, and call themselves a PRO (the best) might be worth it. Bodybuilding wont make you famous, rich or healthy. Its a game/hobby people similar to fishing but some carzy mothers wanna be guy they call the best.
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Im no accomplished BBer, its simply been a interest and hobby from the days of Arnold.
What I see here (GB) time to time is, a few guys that are sucessfull, and devote a lot of time and energy and money... Somehow Feel guilty about it. Well, Most young guys dont think real far into the future.
They spend their time and money much more freely on lots of stuff way less productive then BBing.
Yes Everything needs ballance, but I know guys that are as obssesive about: Fishing, Hunting, Racing, Bowling, Golfing etc.
Some to the point of absurd costs to their family. Ballance is the key.
Also, theres a big differance in when your young and later in life, but again we just dont know the future.
Relationships can and do fail...For MANY REASONS.
But I do know, even if I feel like crap, If I can get a decent workout and nice pump - I feel like a million bucks. And you can do that for years. No matter HOW messed up some bodypart is injured, I can usually find somthing to work out.
Being a pro is so out of the reach of 95%+ of lifters its in the realm of fantasy anyway.
Its not like you can just "Chose to accept the price of being a pro" ::)
Sorry, not even if very gifted.
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Being a pro is so out of the reach of 95%+ of lifters its in the realm of fantasy anyway.
Its not like you can just "Chose to accept the price of being a pro" ::)
Sorry, not even if very gifted.
Lee Priest is probably the best someone with above average genetics can aspire to.
For his height, he appeals to alot of people, because he fights the odds.
Don't think for one minute he doesn't have medical issues relating to bodybuilding that he has to keep on top of.
Eventually he had a scare and started to watch his weight during the off-season.
At his height, you can only get so big before it affects your cardiovascular health, kidneys, not to mention how much fat he gains when he takes time off.
I can't imagine carrying around that much mass on a frame like his.
I'm not even close to his size and at 5'7" I feel it sometimes...
DIV
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Lee Priest is probably the best someone with above average genetics can aspire to.
For his height, he appeals to alot of people, because he fights the odds.
Don't think for one minute he doesn't have medical issues relating to bodybuilding that he has to keep on top of.
Eventually he had a scare and started to watch his weight during the off-season.
At his height, you can only get so big before it affects your cardiovascular health, kidneys, not to mention how much fat he gains when he takes time off.
I can't imagine carrying around that much mass on a frame like his.
I'm not even close to his size and at 5'7" I feel it sometimes...
DIV
I agree, and Lee aint tipping his cards. a "Heart virus" ? WTF?
I like Lee and wish him the best, and yes theres likely a heavy price(s) for being heavy like that.
Most couldn't ever pull it off anyway. That Pic BB put up of him all max swole says it all.
Its just near supernatural.
For what they get out of the deal? Worth it? NO. I think they should get more, and the magazine and supplement empires that amass fortunes off their sacrifice ought to pony up.
I'm surprised we are not seeing them dropping like flies. Still time 4 that.
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For what they get out of the deal? Worth it? NO. I think they should get more, and the magazine and supplement empires that amass fortunes off their sacrifice ought to pony up.
well said, most pros who compete at a show lose money in the ordeal. Look at the most recent montreal pro. I guarantee you anyone who placed under 3rd lost money. Meanwhile the supplement and magazine industries are making billions off them.
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well said, most pros who compete at a show lose money in the ordeal. Look at the most recent montreal pro. I guarantee you anyone who placed under 3rd lost money. Meanwhile the supplement and magazine industries are making billions off them.
And it ought to be the other way around...
Who REALY holds the power when ya think about it, but they all So eager to try to win.
Lee was 100% Right and look what they did to him.
Yes, He may have used a little bit of Winny now and then (With all the chicken), but he still do have some balls!
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Is it worth it? I don't know I suppose it would depend on your ambitions. I don't think I could do it but that's just me. There's too much work & not enough compensation for the average bodybuilder. I know money isn't everything but at lest some low paying hard jobs have a greater purpose - I thinking of people like social workers & such.
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well said, most pros who compete at a show lose money in the ordeal. Look at the most recent montreal pro. I guarantee you anyone who placed under 3rd lost money. Meanwhile the supplement and magazine industries are making billions off them.
True.
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the magazine and supplement companies are making billions? that sounds like a stretch to me
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the magazine and supplement companies are making billions? that sounds like a stretch to me
...ok maybe a billion. Either way the bodybuilders don't get enough compensation.
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the magazine and supplement companies are making billions? that sounds like a stretch to me
The supplement business, as an economic whole is definitely a billion+ dollar a year deal. We as a society (speaking of the U.S.) have reached the age where there is a much larger concern with health and well being. True, most are not willing to do what it takes to achieve this, but that's why the supplement industry is more and more successfully each and every year...and I would suspect that it's revenues will continue to climb at a rapid rate, especially as the baby boomer generations continues to age. After all, the baby boomer generation is a large key to the supplement industries success. These individuals have reached the age where they are not quite as vibrant as they used to be in their youth, and will try anything to reclaim some of this vigour. IMO, unless our economy experiences a recession comparable to that of the late 70's early 80's during the Carter years, the pockets of the supplement dealer will grow exponentially.
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the magazine and supplement companies are making billions? that sounds like a stretch to me
the billions was just an expression, but it certainly wouldnt surprise me. Think about all the supplements in a GNC in the mall, in all the different USA cities. Then theres MD magazine, flex, etc. etc.
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the billions was just an expression, but it certainly wouldnt surprise me. Think about all the supplements in a GNC in the mall, in all the different USA cities. Then theres MD magazine, flex, etc. etc.
A billion in revenue doesnt equate to a billion in profits, or even half a billion in profits, or even a fifth of a billion in profits. Seems like you guys think that the evil supplement companies are hoarding alllllll that money that they so cruelly scam off people while making bodybuilders live in ditches.
Also, think of all those amazing photos, posters etc of all your famous bodybuilders, they're sorta immortalized in them. Wouldn't you love the world to see you lookin like that? And you'd be able to know that you were the king at least for a while.
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Waking up to a meal, then a series of daily injections, followed by a workout.......nevermind the struggles of daily life....this is your life.
The added burden of the food and drugs you are pouring in to your body, pushing the protein turnover, the waste through your kidneys and liver....
Girlfriend? What time for a girlfriend?
Job? A job outside of bodybuilding? I thought bodybuilding WAS your job?
You mean a job to support your bodybuilding ambitions?
The constant pressure to always be "on", even when your body and your mind want to be on vacation.
......and all of this for what, exactly?
A trophy?
Winning a contest so you can get sponsors and keep furthering the vicious cycle that is professional bodybuilding which runs through bodybuilders like porn goes through women.
After it's all over, what exactly are you left with?
Memories?
Hopefully your health intact, but what of value have you really gained that will stay with you for the rest of your life?
There are a few success stories in professional bodybuilding but many, many more examples of tragedy.
For every Lee Priest, there are ten who don't make it and compromise their health permanently in the process.
I'm not a bodybuilder so I can't relate to the mentality and I don't see the worth in it.......for me it's all about strength and power, not the aesthetics.
For those of you who have pro ambitions, can you explain to me how you justify the choices you make and will have to make in light of many pitfalls that await you? :-X
DIV
Im with Div not worth it at all. I could see doing one show every few years but bodybuilding is the shittiest career anyone could choose. WWE wrestling is better
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Im with Div not worth it at all. I could see doing one show every few years but bodybuilding is the shittiest career anyone could choose. WWE wrestling is better
One of the guys who sells training at my gym part-time is a professional wrestler who routinely circuits Japan. They pay him about 10K per trip plus expenses and he loves it. If you're going to use anabolics and lift for a living, you should probably consider wrestling if you're looking at it from a financial perspective.
The guy drives a hummer and pretty much does what he wants when he wants and you can't exactly do that as a professional bodybuilder.
DIV
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Im with Div not worth it at all. I could see doing one show every few years but bodybuilding is the shittiest career anyone could choose. WWE wrestling is better
Although I agree, BB in terms of the financial aspect is pretty much a sucky deal, it doesn't make it a "Shitty career" IMO. It's like all things in life, you're better off doing what makes you happy but at the same time you have to be smart about it, IMO.
Take myself for instance, I'm not going to lie, being a pro BB in my opinion would be pretty cool, but as I've said on this board time and again, I am in no way delusional. Although living a BB style life is more then demanding and by many is viewed as nothing short of retarded stupidity, it is what I enjoy and it is not harming anyone around me, so why not do what makes me happy? Sure, a lot of people would claim that this type of lifestyle is irresponsible and a waste...I disagree. How can something that one truly loves and provides them self gratification be a waste? The next guy might say that this same love and self gratification can come from many other things that are far more reasonable...maybe so, but everyone has their own niche and why should we bust the balls of those who's niche is BB?
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Waste? As if a $30K -1 Million Dollar pleasure Fishing boat makes sense?
Or even a $10K Alumacraft for that matter. ($10K buys a lot of fish) ;)
I could go on w/ other examples, but you get the picture.
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I dont think anyone should be critisized for being dedicated, even extremely dedicated. Some people will liken bodybuilding to other drug abuses, but thats just stupid. A crackhead dooesnt plan out their crack regimen, they just suck dick n smoke crack.
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Spending your life pursuing big muscles is just as stupid as spending your life pursuing money. They are both forms of materialism, which is ultimately a poor pursuit.
While there are better ways to spend your life, which way is not clearly evident. A better way to live is to spend your life is to pursue something you are passionate about without regard to the material benefits. If someone was passionate about the pursuit of big muscles, but not big muscles as a material possession this may work for them.
The basic problem with the pursuit of the material is you want something and either you don't get it and you are disappointed or you get it and are disappointed.
You work hard and you buy a house, you get it and you still aren't happy. So you work harder to get a bigger house or a house in a better neighborhood. You get those things and they are always a disappointment, you always want more. There is no way to achieve fulfillment through material possessions.
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The above is SO TRUE about "wanting". After ya get it, its often a let down.
ALL the excitment was in the chase.....
Carefull what ya ask for... ;) Might just get it.......
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"The things you own end up owning you,"
- Diogenes of Sinope
Sometimes you have to ask yourself do you own your muscles or do they own you?
It is your muscles that demand you eat every two hours, that you eat clean, that you get plenty of rest, that you take drugs and that lift even on days when you don't feel like it.
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Although I agree, BB in terms of the financial aspect is pretty much a sucky deal, it doesn't make it a "Shitty career" IMO. It's like all things in life, you're better off doing what makes you happy but at the same time you have to be smart about it, IMO.
Take myself for instance, I'm not going to lie, being a pro BB in my opinion would be pretty cool, but as I've said on this board time and again, I am in no way delusional. Although living a BB style life is more then demanding and by many is viewed as nothing short of retarded stupidity, it is what I enjoy and it is not harming anyone around me, so why not do what makes me happy? Sure, a lot of people would claim that this type of lifestyle is irresponsible and a waste...I disagree. How can something that one truly loves and provides them self gratification be a waste? The next guy might say that this same love and self gratification can come from many other things that are far more reasonable...maybe so, but everyone has their own niche and why should we bust the balls of those who's niche is BB?
I am all for looking like a bodybuilder and to do that nobody needs to use more than 500mg of Test E weekly along with 300mg of deca and maybe a little dbol. pro bodybuilders are simply drug addicts in a sense. they use drugs they know they shouldnt be using just to look a tad drier or look more vascular.
Their is also too many politics involved in pro Bodybuilding. their are so many pros who do not even crack the top 10 in shows who in my eyes should be Mr.O. looking like a bodybuilder I am all for but a career as one is big trouble in the long run especially with todays exotics people are using. some bodybuilders are using drugs that are not researched very well and who knows what sides these guys will end up with later in life..I can tell yyou many have become full diebatics from using slin wich is bad news. the drug use is to crazy right now.. like I said if you are taking 500mg Test E and 300mg deca and 30mg dbol daily and you dont look similar to a pro or top amateur something is definately wrong with your training or diet. gear is to easy to get these days guys who dont even know how to train properly or diet right are using gear wich is GOING TO BE THE DOWNFALL SOON.
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You're all a buncha downers! :P
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No!!!
I could only imagine what these guys put their bodys through to be a pro. i know several top amatuer guys who take rediculous amounts of AAS, GH and slin just to compete at 215 pounds. many of these guys have been on for almost 10 years with a few breaks or bridges in between. talking with these guys has made me realize how bad this "sport" really is, basicly all top level pro's are drug addicts and i'm not talking about performance enhancing drugs. GH15 speaks alot of truth behind the uppers and downers these guys must take every day just to feel normal. nubain anyone? look at Cutler, he looks like he's on xanax or valium in every video or pic i've seen of him. these guys are pushing the limit and it's a matter of time before we see more careers ended by health issues. these men are going to doctors every few weeks just to make sure they aren't going to drop dead...got the life?
i'm all for personal freedom and i believe people should be able to do what they want with their body and life. i just can't even imagine what must go through these guys heads to keep this up. ronnie is on his last leg health wise, he needs to stop now. same with ruhl, branch, cutler. pushing too much more could be a bad idea, they all look like walking heart attacks already.
Don't get me started on powerlifters, it's even worse right now. listening to my training partners talk about how they are willing to push the envelope a little more when their blood pressure is all ready over 200...shit, they pop 200mgs of drol a day and wonder why they have nose bleeds and feel lethargic.
the most amazing part is how much the human body can take "without" breaking down. the limit is getting pushed, the effects are being felt and they continue to press on...sad.
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I am all for looking like a bodybuilder and to do that nobody needs to use more than 500mg of Test E weekly along with 300mg of deca and maybe a little dbol. pro bodybuilders are simply drug addicts in a sense. they use drugs they know they shouldnt be using just to look a tad drier or look more vascular.
Their is also too many politics involved in pro Bodybuilding. their are so many pros who do not even crack the top 10 in shows who in my eyes should be Mr.O. looking like a bodybuilder I am all for but a career as one is big trouble in the long run especially with todays exotics people are using. some bodybuilders are using drugs that are not researched very well and who knows what sides these guys will end up with later in life..I can tell yyou many have become full diebatics from using slin wich is bad news. the drug use is to crazy right now.. like I said if you are taking 500mg Test E and 300mg deca and 30mg dbol daily and you dont look similar to a pro or top amateur something is definately wrong with your training or diet. gear is to easy to get these days guys who dont even know how to train properly or diet right are using gear wich is GOING TO BE THE DOWNFALL SOON.
You make a lot of good points, and I agree with a lot of those points. however, saying someone only needs 500mg/test/wk, well maybe, it's not really a "need" thing using more, but as I've said before, there is a world of difference between 500mg/wk and 750mg/wk and the difference between 750mg/wk vs. 1000mg/wk, the difference is even more pronounced IMO.
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Everyone keeps saying all these pros are so close to death, but the reality is the pros were dyin much more back in the day when the dihuretics were being abused so much more.
People complain that such and such's quad sweep is too small, that they have tiny arms, etc etc, and then on the other hand these same bodybuilding "fans" complain about drug use in bodybuilding. Can't have it both ways.
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People complain that such and such's quad sweep is too small, that they have tiny arms, etc etc, and then on the other hand these same bodybuilding "fans" complain about drug use in bodybuilding. Can't have it both ways.
Excelant point.
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You make a lot of good points, and I agree with a lot of those points. however, saying someone only needs 500mg/test/wk, well maybe, it's not really a "need" thing using more, but as I've said before, there is a world of difference between 500mg/wk and 750mg/wk and the difference between 750mg/wk vs. 1000mg/wk, the difference is even more pronounced IMO.
I guess it depends on the person and quality of the gear they are using but I have seen people make incredible gains on just small 500mg test E dosages and they look like top amateur bodybuilders. the diffrence is they train their asses offf 6-7 days a week and just know how to train correctly. gear is a very minimal part of the sport.
GH is a little diffrent. that does make a pretty decent diffrence..
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I guess it depends on the person and quality of the gear they are using but I have seen people make incredible gains on just small 500mg test E dosages and they look like top amateur bodybuilders. the diffrence is they train their asses offf 6-7 days a week and just know how to train correctly. gear is a very minimal part of the sport.
GH is a little diffrent. that does make a pretty decent diffrence..
OK, I'll go along with that.
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First off, being a pro might be expensive but not necessarily spent on drugs. I know of a local guy who worked for 15 years to get his procard and didn't receive it until he was a master. He ate right, trained right and I can only speculate he cycled right. He owns a successful business, has a family etc etc. Some guys have fancy cars, some have boats, some have muscles!
He had good genetics but more importantly he had the desire to succeed.
"Hope differed makes the heart sick but a desire fulfilled is the tree of life" Proverbs 13:12
On another note... I can't say I really like where pro BB is going. They're too big. I'm a HUGE fan of Bob Paris. That guy is one of the most symetric perfect physique body builders I have ever seen. He wasn't HUGE and he never aspired to be. Body building should, IMO, be about the perfect human body and the muscles that make it up. Not the most disgustingly gargantuan dude around. There is NO WAY to maintain that size without drugs.
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Many of you have made some good points here, like i said it before i think it is worth it. I've been involved with serious training and sports since i was a child and as far as i'm concerned bodybuilding is just a sport like any other one. Except i think that bodybuilding is far more demanding than most other sports, you have to do allmost everything to get to the top and even more to stay there. Even if you don't want to get to the top, you still have to eat, train and sleep way more than "regular people."
Btw: i don't think that bodybuilders are as sick as many here do, sure they mega dose on everything (or atleast some do) and they live to "excess" ,but most of these guys are very intelligent and do know what they are doing. I think you could call that "an calculated risk." There are plenty of other sports where drug use is rampant and they use things that aren't even remotely what the human body "normally" has in it. For example many cyclist use drugs that are considered POISON (atleast) in their dosages, just to get an egde and to fool the testers.
I personally think that the worst mistake someone can do with their life is not going after their passion, sure you might fail, but atleast then you don't have any regrets at your death bed. I know so many cases where someone was very talented, skilled and dedicated then something happened and they started to live a normal life. Now i'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that, but all of these people have that "WHAT IF" haunting in the back of their head.
To rape a cliche:
It's better to burn out then fade away...
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First off, being a pro might be expensive but not necessarily spent on drugs. I know of a local guy who worked for 15 years to get his procard and didn't receive it until he was a master. He ate right, trained right and I can only speculate he cycled right. He owns a successful business, has a family etc etc. Some guys have fancy cars, some have boats, some have muscles!
He had good genetics but more importantly he had the desire to succeed.
"Hope differed makes the heart sick but a desire fulfilled is the tree of life" Proverbs 13:12
On another note... I can't say I really like where pro BB is going. They're too big. I'm a HUGE fan of Bob Paris. That guy is one of the most symetric perfect physique body builders I have ever seen. He wasn't HUGE and he never aspired to be. Body building should, IMO, be about the perfect human body and the muscles that make it up. Not the most disgustingly gargantuan dude around. There is NO WAY to maintain that size without drugs.
Major respect to the guy who pulled off the above trick. (Pro Card, Sucessfull Biz, and family)
One thing Ive noticed in 46 yrs is - Sucessfull guys are that way for a reason. If your an advanced BBer,
I suspect you can transfer taht to other pursuits and still maintain at a high level.
I think the fact is, lots of young guys still train more than they need to.
Pro Card, Self Employed, and family --
Thats determination and very - very carefull time/ productivity managment.
ALmost NOBODY can pull that off,, but it is possible.
Some guys make running 3 profitable businesses and various other pursuits look easy.
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I was told that he was the littlest guy around when he started but the he was also the guy who had a can of tuna and a potato in his pocked wherever he went so he could always have something to eat. I think I heard he's doing his first pro show this weekend and that he's looking great (at something like 44 no less!)
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I was told that he was the littlest guy around when he started but the he was also the guy who had a can of tuna and a potato in his pocked wherever he went so he could always have something to eat. I think I heard he's doing his first pro show this weekend and that he's looking great (at something like 44 no less!)
Cool. Throw up a pic if you can.
A lot has to do with drive/ determination, intelligent focus of energy, Time, resources.
That one guys I was referring to is not a BBer, but at 65 yrs old runs several business,
still does lots of hard physical labor in the hot sun, and seems to have the natural energy of a 20 yr old on stimulants and steroids.
He aint normal by a long shot.
To bad hes not a BBer, Wide back & strong.
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"The things you own end up owning you,"
- Diogenes of Sinope
Sometimes you have to ask yourself do you own your muscles or do they own you?
It is your muscles that demand you eat every two hours, that you eat clean, that you get plenty of rest, that you take drugs and that lift even on days when you don't feel like it.
^Now that is irony.
Do you own the muscles or are you a slave to them?
They require the food, the exercise, the drugs to maintain the strength/size desired...........yet are you lifting for them or are they lifting for you?
Who owns who?
The difference is, I don't lift when I'm not mentally in to it.
No point.
In that way, I am not a slave to the muscle.......yet I do feed it what it needs, even when I don't feel like eating, injecting etc.
That's a very good quote.
"The things you own end up owning you,"
Think about it, people.
Is that you?
DIV
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I have coustomers who work their ass'es off to own: several corvettes, a Wellcraft, 2 homes etc...
Most of them work so much to support the stuff...THAT THEY NEVER HAVE TIME TO USE EVEN USE IT!
THEY DONT OWN IT - IT OWNS THEM!
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EXACTLY!
Last night i was at my friends place and he has a lot nice stuff, like super big tv, car, cameras, computers and all that, we talked about alot of stuff and he asked me why i don't buy more stuff even when i have the money for it. I said i don't see any point in buying stuff i don't NEED. Most of the "luxury" items that i have are souveniers from trips and so on. I'd much rather invest in myself than to a bigger tv which i have no need for. Of course if i'd get alot cash suddenly i would probably buy more stuff just for fun. I also like to use the "extra" cash for traveling rather than to spend it on crap.
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EXACTLY!
Last night i was at my friends place and he has a lot nice stuff, like super big tv, car, cameras, computers and all that, we talked about alot of stuff and he asked me why i don't buy more stuff even when i have the money for it. I said i don't see any point in buying stuff i don't NEED. Most of the "luxury" items that i have are souveniers from trips and so on. I'd much rather invest in myself than to a bigger tv which i have no need for. Of course if i'd get alot cash suddenly i would probably buy more stuff just for fun. I also like to use the "extra" cash for traveling rather than to spend it on crap.
You need to love life. More than you love things, more than you love people and more than you love yourself, you need to love life.
Things are hallow and when you put your happiness into the hands of others you are losing too much power. People will let you down, but life is what you make of it.
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You need to love life. More than you love things, more than you love people and more than you love yourself, you need to love life.
Things are hallow and when you put your happiness into the hands of others you are losing too much power. People will let you down, but life is what you make of it.
Great post...
When you're an old man sitting in a rocking chair do you think you will remember the expensive cars you drove or the smiles of your children's faces?
in the end i believe happiness is the key to success. i see so many people with ASSLOADS of money who hate life, or they don't have time to spend it. 50% of all millionaires are drug addicts or recovering addicts. money doesn't buy happiness...
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