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when I was ripped my ab sskin fold was 4 mm, now it's 22 mm :-X
been looking through protein intake articles and the grand concensus is to consume 1 to 1.4 grams of protein for lean bodyweight to preserve muscle
what's your fellas thoughts on that?
as i side note i read an article from the AJ website about Boyer Coe when he was training with AJ and he was only eating 1500 cals, and ray mentzer said he only ate bout 2500 cals while weighing 260 :o
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the articles general consensus is bout 1 gram per pound of lean if on a moderate diet and bout 1.5 if the on an extreme diet
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This is a joke right?
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when I was ripped my ab sskin fold was 4 mm, now it's 22 mm :-X
been looking through protein intake articles and the grand concensus is to consume 1 to 1.4 grams of protein for lean bodyweight to preserve muscle
what's your fellas thoughts on that?
as i side note i read an article from the AJ website about Boyer Coe when he was training with AJ and he was only eating 1500 cals, and ray mentzer said he only ate bout 2500 cals while weighing 260 :o
Shouldn't a bulk for an ecto like you last for at least a year or 2 because the whole point in your case would be to get your body adjusted to holding more size in the first place
PS dont compare yourself to Ray Mentzer or Boyer Coe, you dont have their genetics and will never look like them no matter many drugs you take
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Shouldn't a bulk for an ecto like you last for at least a year or 2 because the whole point in your case would be to get your body adjusted to holding more size in the first place
PS dont compare yourself to Ray Mentzer or Boyer Coe, you dont have their genetics and will never look like them no matter many drugs you take
I don't buy Iit that you have to stay heavier to keep it
too bad I'm full natty now, coz now would be the pperfect time to use tren ace
I'm even seeing some articles that purpose 2 grams per lean pound
fuck that's A LOT of protein, especially since I won't take any protein supps as real food trumps the fuck outta pro supps
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I don't buy Iit that you have to stay heavier to keep it
too bad I'm full natty now, coz now would be the pperfect time to use tren ace
I'm even seeing some articles that purpose 2 grams per lean pound
fuck that's A LOT of protein, especially since I won't take any protein supps as real food trumps the fuck outta pro supps
You don't buy it yet you have yet never broken the 200lbs barrier despite being on copious amounts of drugs on and off over the years. That is part of your problem, you know everything
question, curious as to how long you have been off juice now?
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Not an insult but your genetics are on par with Curt James. Doesn't mean don't lift weights, just start being realistic FFS, at least he is.
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This is a joke right?
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1 g to 1.3 is perfect per lb of body weight.
I do 200 grams of protein a day and have gotten stronger and gained a bit of muscle in the process since upping my overall protein during my cut. Currently the biggest and leanest I have ever been.
No idea why you would eat less than 2000 calories. You could easily be in a deficit at 2500-2700 even.
This girl diets on 2300-2800 for instance. Don`t be a moron.
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1 g to 1.3 is perfect per lb of body weight.
I do 200 grams of protein a day and have gotten stronger and gained a bit of muscle in the process since upping my overall protein during my cut. Currently the biggest and leanest I have ever been.
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Not an insult but your genetics are on par with Curt James. Doesn't mean don't lift weights, just start being realistic FFS, at least he is.
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Thanks for the feedback TA
I'm gonna start out at a moderate deficit around 2500 and 1 gram per pound
if I need to go under 2 grand I'll up the protein to 1.4
and Nelson fuck off with that shit bro
my genetics trump the fuck out of that toad you posted
look up me at my peak (I'm sure me boy kwon has the pic handy within all of his asses as I could be ass/douce #1)
look at that full natty pic and try and tell me my genetics are the same as t damn toad
too fucking funny
and I've been off gear for over 8 months now
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Whys the current humidity on fantasy island? I was considering taking a vacation.
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Thanks for the feedback TA
I'm gonna start out at a moderate deficit around 2500 and 1 gram per pound
if I need to go under 2 grand I'll up the protein to 1.4
and Nelson fuck off with that shit bro
my genetics trump the fuck out of that toad you posted
look up me at my peak (I'm sure me boy kwon has the pic handy within all of his asses as I could be ass/douce #1)
look at that full natty pic and try and tell me my genetics are the same as t damn toad
too fucking funny
and I've been off gear for over 8 months now
Why would you need to go under 2500 unless you are just impatient? 1.3g per lb of body weight is high enough unless you just like eating protein, which I actually do depending on what I am making.
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Why would you need to go under 2500 unless you are just impatient? 1.3g per lb of body weight is high enough unless you just like eating protein, which I actually do depending on what I am making.
I've always been impatient
anyways I usually train twice a day every day so I think not going to under 2500 will be needed
do you agree that it's best to get all the pro from real food?
IMHO real food trumps the fuck out of protein powder
I'll add in 3-4 cans of tuna per day and cut back on carbs and fat
I was eating chocolate cookies with coconut fat spread all over them to get a surplus of cals so now they gots to go
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I've always been impatient
anyways I usually train twice a day every day so I think not going to under 2500 will be needed
do you agree that it's best to get all the pro from real food?
IMHO real food trumps the fuck out of protein powder
I'll add in 3-4 cans of tuna per day and cut back on carbs and fat
I was eating chocolate cookies with coconut fat spread all over them to get a surplus of cals so now they gots to go
You must smell like a sewer.
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I've always been impatient
anyways I usually train twice a day every day so I think not going to under 2500 will be needed
do you agree that it's best to get all the pro from real food?
IMHO real food trumps the fuck out of protein powder
I'll add in 3-4 cans of tuna per day and cut back on carbs and fat
I was eating chocolate cookies with coconut fat spread all over them to get a surplus of cals so now they gots to go
Your training is REALLY shitty for a natural to let you know. You should only be training 3 days a week, 4 max.
40-60 reps total per bodypart each session, each body part twice a week.
Real food does not trump anything unless you feel that it does. Its just personal preference. Does not matter at all.
Why even bother with carbs or fat? Get your protein and hit that caloric limit and the fats/carbs fall perfectly into place anyways. Why bother monitoring?
Keep your cookies if you want, just hit your calories with them if you can. Makes no difference.
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Current Routine is this:
Monday:Bench Press-3 sets Reps=5, 6, 8 Reverse Pyramid first set Heaviest then reduce each by 10 percent in weight
Dumbbell Shoulder Pres=5,6,8 Reverse Pyramid
Barbell Front Raise= 3 sets of 12- Add weight once all 12 reps can be completed with given weight.
Reverse Tricep Cable Pushdowns-3 Sets of 10- Add weight once all 10 reps are completed with given weight.
Wednesday: Squat-3 sets Reps=5, 6, 8 Reverse Pyramid first set Heaviest then reduce each by 10 percent in weight
Lying Leg Curl-3 sets of 12- Add weight once all 12 reps can be completed with given weight.
Barbell Row- 5, 6, 8 Reverse Pyramid first set Heaviest then reduce each by 10 percent in weight
Underhand Lat Pulldown- 3 sets of 12- Add weight once all 12 reps can be completed with given weight.
Barbell Bicep Curl- 3 Sets of 10- Add weight once all 10 reps are completed with given weight.
Friday:Repeat Monday
Then on the next Monday you will start with Squats and repeat the same M,W,F
Progression on the Reverse Pyramid sets are as follows: Only one set is moved up in weight each session. For instance, 5,6,8 on your 8 rep set next session increase the weight. On the session after that, increase the weight on the 6 rep set. After that session, increase the weight on the 5 rep session. Repeat.
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when I was ripped my ab sskin fold was 4 mm, now it's 22 mm :-X
been looking through protein intake articles and the grand concensus is to consume 1 to 1.4 grams of protein for lean bodyweight to preserve muscle
what's your fellas thoughts on that?
as i side note i read an article from the AJ website about Boyer Coe when he was training with AJ and he was only eating 1500 cals, and ray mentzer said he only ate bout 2500 cals while weighing 260 :o
Why did you gain all that fat?
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Why would you need to go under 2500 unless you are just impatient? 1.3g per lb of body weight is high enough unless you just like eating protein, which I actually do depending on what I am making.
I thought you did not count macros, only calories?
Hell you are famous for it
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it would be impossible for me to train only 3-4 days per week
if I did that I'd probably go.back to the bottle (been sober now going on 5 year)
it's better to train everyday than to drink everyday
I train on a 3-way split chest/bi/back repeat
today I did bis 2 sets of preacher curl to failure and 2 sets of concentration curl til failure and that's the whole workout
Mike Mentzer sstyle 8)
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it would be impossible for me to train only 3-4 days per week
if I did that I'd probably go.back to the bottle (been sober now going on 5 year)
it's better to train everyday than to drink everyday
I train on a 3-way split chest/bi/back repeat
today I did bis 2 sets of preacher curl to failure and 2 sets of concentration curl til failure and that's the whole workout
Mike Mentzer sstyle 8)
Is there a reason why you wore size 50 shorts for your photo, or were you stricken with polio?
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Why did you gain all that fat?
good q
i guess I'm a bit of a dumbass
or it could be JM Blakeys influence on me, he had me on 5 grand cals a day and my body weightwent from 146 to 190 sand bf from 7.5 to 19.7 in only 10 weeks
he is world famous and knows his stuff I guess
he would say... "you must bathe the cell in nutrients"
the are lots of links on his diet style on the net
another famous aayimg he had was.... "to beat the man you gotta out eat the man" ;D
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I thought you did not count macros, only calories?
Hell you are famous for it
I don`t count macros, only calories and have always said first and foremost, get the Protein that you require. The carbs and fats will not matter and will fall into place by default if you are eating in a perfect range, whether it is for getting ripped, maintenance or just a little bit above maintenance. You should NEVER get too far from your maintenance for long periods of time. Your only justification for it should be for pleasure as there is no benefit unless you just want to be fatter.
So yeah, you do not have to count Macros at all. Just calories and get your protein that you need and you are good to go. Simple as that.
And stop training like a dumbass. The goal should be to train effectively and getting the most results out of the least amount of work, otherwise you are just killing yourself, your gains and wasting your time.
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it would be impossible for me to train only 3-4 days per week
if I did that I'd probably go.back to the bottle (been sober now going on 5 year)
it's better to train everyday than to drink everyday
I train on a 3-way split chest/bi/back repeat
today I did bis 2 sets of preacher curl to failure and 2 sets of concentration curl til failure and that's the whole workout
Mike Mentzer sstyle 8)
Ok, well you can train like that also since you are not doing too much volume. I thought you were going in there and killing yourself each time. That could work for sure as long as volume is kept low like that.
Why do you feel the need to drink? You control your mind. You can`t drink what you don`t buy. Address the reason and problem first. Fix that shit. Replacing habits is not a true fix. Its a start, but does not really get at the root cause/problem. Fix that shit.
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good q
i guess I'm a bit of a dumbass
or it could be JM Blakeys influence on me, he had me on 5 grand cals a day and my body weightwent from 146 to 190 sand bf from 7.5 to 19.7 in only 10 weeks
he is world famous and knows his stuff I guess
he would say... "you must bathe the cell in nutrients"
the are lots of links on his diet style on the net
another famous aayimg he had was.... "to beat the man you gotta out eat the man" ;D
Well no offense to this famous guy but he needs to "bathe" his brain in some knowledge.
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Ok, well you can train like that also since you are not doing too much volume. I thought you were going in there and killing yourself each time. That could work for sure as long as volume is kept low like that.
Why do you feel the need to drink? You control your mind. You can`t drink what you don`t buy. Address the reason and problem first. Fix that shit. Replacing habits is not a true fix. Its a start, but does not really get at the root cause/problem. Fix that shit.
I'm working on it
and yeah you can train more often if you keep volume low enough
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Look here's how this works. You go into the gym you workout you eat correctly you do everything right and within a few years usually less you are done. What I mean is you stop growing, the end. No amounts of switching workouts around or trying these fad diets will bring on anymore muscle size.
Now here is the good news, you can still make a lot more progress. You are not even lean enough to be able to see what you have built. Most people never will be. All they ever do is try for the next gimmick training program or gimmick diet. Being in a small calorie deficit will NOT make you lose muscle so don't even use that as an excuse. Stop being lazy and diet. Pick a training program that you like that won't fuck up your joints or burn you out. If you are going to workout everyday then you should never be in there for more than 40 min max!!
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Well no offense to this famous guy but he needs to "bathe" his brain in some knowledge.
well he has earned a phd and the JM Press is his exercise
but he isn't all knowing as he told me that I only needed 100 grams of protein while dieting and that is wrong as these studies have shown and proven
the first time I used then my bw stayed the same but my comp went from 12 to 7-8
no other drug did that for me, not winny, not var, not mast, not superdrol, and not clen or t3
for recomp then is KING hands down, no other drug can touch it in that regard, would you agree?
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Look here's how this works. You go into the gym you workout you eat correctly you do everything right and within a few years usually less you are done. What I mean is you stop growing, the end. No amounts of switching workouts around or trying these fad diets will bring on anymore muscle size.
Now here is the good news, you can still make a lot more progress. You are not even lean enough to be able to see what you have built. Most people never will be. All they ever do is try for the next gimmick training program or gimmick diet. Being in a small calorie deficit will NOT make you lose muscle so don't even use that as an excuse. Stop being lazy and diet. Pick a training program that you like that won't fuck up your joints or burn you out. If you are going to workout everyday then you should never be in there for more than 40 min max!!
good point
now I'm focus in on high reps heavy weight
I can bench 135 to the neck for 25 reps so I want to bring it up to 185 for 25 and that should add something
same for other exercises
Blakely actually said that the key was to lift heavy weights for high reps
he could pull down 300 for 20-25 reps
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good point
now I'm focus in on high reps heavy weight
I can bench 135 to the neck for 25 reps so I want to bring it up to 185 for 25 and that should add something
same for other exercises
Blakely actually said that the key was to lift heavy weights for high reps
he could pull down 300 for 20-25 reps
Is this a joke? Lift heavy weights for high reps? Isn't that an oxymoron? If you can lift a certain weight for high reps, then by definition, it isn't heavy for you. You are chasing ghosts.
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good point
now I'm focus in on high reps heavy weight
I can bench 135 to the neck for 25 reps so I want to bring it up to 185 for 25 and that should add something
same for other exercises
Blakely actually said that the key was to lift heavy weights for high reps
he could pull down 300 for 20-25 reps
You are still missing the point. Stop thinking that a certain workout is going to make you huge or strong or what ever. You are not even built as good as some of the guys in the 50's and they lifted 3 times a week whole body.
I don't have a PHD or a JM press but I've gotten plenty of guys in shape for shows or photo shoots without fancy workouts and complicated diets. You don't need superdrol anadrol or any kind of drol to get in shape, you just need to diet the fat off first and see where you are at.
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Is this a joke? Lift heavy weights for high reps? Isn't that an oxymoron? If you can lift a certain weight for high reps, then by definition, it isn't heavy for you. You are chasing ghosts.
YOU will never figure this or outwit dj he's like a rubiks cube except you can actually complete the 'rubiks'
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iknow i will upset alot of people on here with what im gonna say and i mean no disrespect. whatever works for you is great. however remember the "high" protein amounts were always from supplement companies trying to convince you you needed alot of protein to grow etc so you would buy it in supplement form im not saying its not useful. cuz it is to a point. do you need 200 grams? 300? 400? NO. the only thing that keeps you from losing to much muscke while dieting( other than drugs) is working out. you got to do something to make the body repair itself. that means hard workouts . you can keep the calories lower( not starvation) and still lose fat and maintain muscle. when you ingest alot of protein what your doing is really just supplying your body with calories. ( no a calorie is not a calorie) after your body uses what it needs for repair it will just turn into sugar and use it up or store it depending on how much you ingest. most men dont need more than about 100 grams a day or less( mostly less) but we have been told for ever we need alot all the time and we think we wont grow if we dont get it. lol. we need nourishnment. thats it. ii myself prefer a keto diet. lots of fats low to moderate protein and as close to zero carbs as i can get. i feel great my strength is awesome and so is my energy levels. i used to think protein protein protein too. but then i cut it out and thoughh oh god im gonna shrink get weak and be a geek. but it didnt happen also food is always better than supplements. ALWAYS. you know what your getting with food. supplements its a crap shoot. trainhard 3-4 days a week( split up) keep your calories lower keep carbs out and watch what happens. what ever you do good luck and what works for you may not work for others.
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You are still missing the point. Stop thinking that a certain workout is going to make you huge or strong or what ever. You are not even built as good as some of the guys in the 50's and they lifted 3 times a week whole body.
I don't have a PHD or a JM press but I've gotten plenty of guys in shape for shows or photo shoots without fancy workouts and complicated diets. You don't need superdrol anadrol or any kind of drol to get in shape, you just need to diet the fat off first and see where you are at.
A game of patience and adherence it all is.
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You are still missing the point. Stop thinking that a certain workout is going to make you huge or strong or what ever. You are not even built as good as some of the guys in the 50's and they lifted 3 times a week whole body.
I don't have a PHD or a JM press but I've gotten plenty of guys in shape for shows or photo shoots without fancy workouts and complicated diets. You don't need superdrol anadrol or any kind of drol to get in shape, you just need to diet the fat off first and see where you are at.
thanks for the input Bro as it is greatly appreciated :)
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iknow i will upset alot of people on here with what im gonna say and i mean no disrespect. whatever works for you is great. however remember the "high" protein amounts were always from supplement companies trying to convince you you needed alot of protein to grow etc so you would buy it in supplement form im not saying its not useful. cuz it is to a point. do you need 200 grams? 300? 400? NO. the only thing that keeps you from losing to much muscke while dieting( other than drugs) is working out. you got to do something to make the body repair itself. that means hard workouts . you can keep the calories lower( not starvation) and still lose fat and maintain muscle. when you ingest alot of protein what your doing is really just supplying your body with calories. ( no a calorie is not a calorie) after your body uses what it needs for repair it will just turn into sugar and use it up or store it depending on how much you ingest. most men dont need more than about 100 grams a day or less( mostly less) but we have been told for ever we need alot all the time and we think we wont grow if we dont get it. lol. we need nourishnment. thats it. ii myself prefer a keto diet. lots of fats low to moderate protein and as close to zero carbs as i can get. i feel great my strength is awesome and so is my energy levels. i used to think protein protein protein too. but then i cut it out and thoughh oh god im gonna shrink get weak and be a geek. but it didnt happen also food is always better than supplements. ALWAYS. you know what your getting with food. supplements its a crap shoot. trainhard 3-4 days a week( split up) keep your calories lower keep carbs out and watch what happens. what ever you do good luck and what works for you may not work for others.
I disagree.
I have experimented myself with seeing just how low of protein I could get away with and seeing if just lifting heavy could stave off muscle loss. Between 50-100 grams for a few months as an experiment and lifting extremely heavy, I ended up around 10-15 lbs less than a previous cut with even a slightly higher bodyfat.
So no, Heavy training alone will not save your muscle.
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iknow i will upset alot of people on here with what im gonna say and i mean no disrespect. whatever works for you is great. however remember the "high" protein amounts were always from supplement companies trying to convince you you needed alot of protein to grow etc so you would buy it in supplement form im not saying its not useful. cuz it is to a point. do you need 200 grams? 300? 400? NO. the only thing that keeps you from losing to much muscke while dieting( other than drugs) is working out. you got to do something to make the body repair itself. that means hard workouts . you can keep the calories lower( not starvation) and still lose fat and maintain muscle. when you ingest alot of protein what your doing is really just supplying your body with calories. ( no a calorie is not a calorie) after your body uses what it needs for repair it will just turn into sugar and use it up or store it depending on how much you ingest. most men dont need more than about 100 grams a day or less( mostly less) but we have been told for ever we need alot all the time and we think we wont grow if we dont get it. lol. we need nourishnment. thats it. ii myself prefer a keto diet. lots of fats low to moderate protein and as close to zero carbs as i can get. i feel great my strength is awesome and so is my energy levels. i used to think protein protein protein too. but then i cut it out and thoughh oh god im gonna shrink get weak and be a geek. but it didnt happen also food is always better than supplements. ALWAYS. you know what your getting with food. supplements its a crap shoot. trainhard 3-4 days a week( split up) keep your calories lower keep carbs out and watch what happens. what ever you do good luck and what works for you may not work for others.
Now I'm upset. >:( I agree although I would go a little higher in protein depending on how big a person is and if they are using steroids. Also I don't agree that a person has to workout in order to preserve muscle while dieting off fat. If you have someone who say has 150 pounds of fat to lose and never lifted a weight in his or her life then if they were losing X amount of muscle per pound of body fat then they would most likely be dead well before that got down to their goal weight.
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the articles general consensus is bout 1 gram per pound of lean if on a moderate diet and bout 1.5 if the on an extreme diet
Great shorts bro
I would iron them a couple of times a week
You will see a dramatic improvement in their
Appearance
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Great shorts bro
I would iron them a couple of times a week
You will see a dramatic improvement in their
Appearance
I'm worried about those socks as well...
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I'm worried about those socks as well...
I'm more worried about rigor mortis. DJ has the legs of a corpse.
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when I was ripped my ab sskin fold was 4 mm, now it's 22 mm :-X
been looking through protein intake articles and the grand concensus is to consume 1 to 1.4 grams of protein for lean bodyweight to preserve muscle
what's your fellas thoughts on that?
as i side note i read an article from the AJ website about Boyer Coe when he was training with AJ and he was only eating 1500 cals, and ray mentzer said he only ate bout 2500 cals while weighing 260 :o
A 5 kilogram baby needs about 600 calories to survive, talk about eating disorder of peace, also unsustainable diet of peace.
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hmmm so you said it was 10 -15 lbs? well which was it? were you guessing at the fat amount or did you actually do skin folds testing? and why for so many months? unless you were really overweight then you shouldnt need that long to cut. there are alot of variables to this. again i said what works for one may not work for another. people are different. most guys who are bodybuilders usually dont need to lose alot of fat USUALLY. so yes hard workouts decent nutrition and rest will help preserve muscle. you will NOT preserve every ounce or pound NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO. remember there is only 600 calories in a pound of muscle( roughly 150 grams of protein) who can gain a pound a day of muscle NO MATTER how much protein you eat? 10 pounds of real muscle a year after a certain point is a huge amount to gain. so if you dont stimulate the body to get it to keep the muscle you will lose muscle very fast and the fat loss will be slow. fat is the same way sit around all day and do nothing and you wont lose much if any fat. work the body make it do stuff and it will burn fat. or muscle depending on what your doing. you gotta find a balance and what works for you. trial and error
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Great shorts bro
I would iron them a couple of times a week
You will see a dramatic improvement in their
Appearance
;D
at least the white hairs from my husky pup aren't visable
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oh and as far as losing fat goes diet pwns the living shit out of ttraining
I was sub-5 back in nov/dec and since then I've gained about 20 pounds and my back Iis much broader but most this 20 was probably fat and water, although I did get some very good back strength gains :'(
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You have got to be fucking with us.
Does DJ stand for Delusional Joke?
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You have got to be fucking with us.
Does DJ stand for Delusional Joke?
I'm not a bodybuilder dummy
and I want to keep my weight at no more than 165 or so
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Props for putting up photos....you either brave as fuck or mad as hell for putting up that leg shot
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gimmick has three pages.
getbig never learns..
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Props for putting up photos....you either brave as fuck or mad as hell for putting up that leg shot
thanks Bro
don't train calves coz it's dull as hell
the only leg training I get is from deads
my near future goal is 20 reps with 315
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gimmick has three pages.
getbig never learns..
3 pages,,,its off and running.
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thanks Bro
don't train calves coz it's dull as hell
the only leg training I get is from deads
my near future goal is 20 reps with 315
i will snap your spine like a German Shepherd.
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3 pages,,,its off and running.
working out the diet plan now, it's basically gonna be lots of tuna, some chicken wings on the grill and cheese for breakkie
don't know if I should start with 150 or 200 grams
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oh and as far as losing fat goes diet pwns the living shit out of ttraining
I was sub-5 back in nov/dec and since then I've gained about 20 pounds and my back Iis much broader but most this 20 was probably fat and water, although I did get some very good back strength gains :'(
Metabolic damage / metabolism downgrade of peace..
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As 165 you get all the dark chocolate hunnies.
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so confused ???
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TACO, 'AIn't' it you who has a contest coming up?
And how serious is the drug cartel business in your arena!?
We have been discussing that subject over the dinner table when the kids go our to smoke a joint. (They think we don't know!)
PS. I am presently having a difficult time finding a subject that I can intelligently disagree or agree with.
Help me out!
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Hope all is well D
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Hope all is well D
thanks Bro
got the diet set, it's 185 grams of protein and around 2700 cals
I'm also on a quest to figure out the best bf for me to stay at
sub-5 is too damp lean, but 16-18% is too damp fat lol
its probably gonna be somewhere around 6-8%
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thanks Bro
got the diet set, it's 185 grams of protein and around 2700 cals
I'm also on a quest to figure out the best bf for me to stay at
sub-5 is too damp lean, but 16-18% is too damp fat lol
its probably gonna be somewhere around 6-8%
hey broseph lolz are you still going for the curls world record chief
are you staying dry bra
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hey broseph lolz are you still going for the curls world record chief
are you staying dry bra
depends on what I weigh once I'm lean enough
you basically get dry once you go under 6
I'll end up somewhere between 6-8
under 6 is too lean
how much ya benching nowadays?
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Wow, just wow,
You have Disgusted who has worked with countless people getting them into shape including natties and pros, give you friendly advices and you still think you know better and argue.
This is why nothing will never change for you.
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depends on what I weigh once I'm lean enough
you basically get dry once you go under 6
I'll end up somewhere between 6-8
under 6 is too lean
how much ya benching nowadays?
lol chief im throwing up high reps in da gym
bill shitzer used to say ten plates at 180 lols
im throwing up two plates a side lolz rofl lollicopter at a semi wet 250 for thirty reps broseph
got to wear the string v for dem bitches lolz
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Wow, just wow,
You have Disgusted who has worked with countless people getting them into shape including natties and pros, give you friendly advices and you still think you know better and argue.
This is why nothing will never change for you.
:)
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Wow, just wow,
You have Disgusted who has worked with countless people getting them into shape including natties and pros, give you friendly advices and you still think you know better and argue.
This is why nothing will never change for you.
pssst , its not a real account....
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Wow, just wow,
You have Disgusted who has worked with countless people getting them into shape including natties and pros, give you friendly advices and you still think you know better and argue.
This is why nothing will never change for you.
show me exactly where I did that
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pssst , its not a real account....
You always say that you accused me of being Joon so you're not as good as you think you are at reading between the lines. Reading this you obviously think this dude is Halo.....I don't see it myself.
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You always say that you accused me of being Joon so you're not as good as you think you are at reading between the lines. Reading this you obviously think this dude is Halo.....I don't see it myself.
he just says that dumbass shit to try and troll me
did you see the pic he posted of his wife on the thread he made about ms.nabba?
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You always say that you accused me of being Joon so you're not as good as you think you are at reading between the lines. Reading this you obviously think this dude is Halo.....I don't see it myself.
halo?
Not in a million years....
If anyone is halo its this guy
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=56433
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You don't lift for thighs or calves? I hope you run or bike at least. I feel I'm around 10lbs from being the best I can be at my age but in order to do that I would have to stop drinking beer. Everything has a price and a value. Being extremely lean doesn't have a value to me if I'm pool side and I can't have a few beers.
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I am a natural endomorph, size and strength came easy but getting lean was a bitch
Want to get back to regular training and maybe get my lats along with everything else back up
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been reading and sourcing through more articles bout pro intake and.a few even.say to get 2 grams per pound like cCharles put 'em on the Glass
I remember years back I made sure to get in 1.5 grams per pound and I gained 5 pound in 6 weeks and my body fat went down
So I'm gonna start with 1.5 grams per pound
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been reading and sourcing through more articles bout pro intake and.a few even.say to get 2 grams per pound like cCharles put 'em on the Glass
I remember years back I made sure to get in 1.5 grams per pound and I gained 5 pound in 6 weeks and my body fat went down
So I'm gonna start with 1.5 grams per pound
overthink shit much?
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overthink shit much?
;D
I wanna be THE BEST Bro
it's the trademark of a true narcissist ;)
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;D
I wanna be THE BEST Bro
it's the trademark of a true narcissist ;)
lol, the best what?
whether you take 1.5 / 1.7 or 2.0 wont make a bit of difference. You can't be the best if the process contains waste.
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I am a natural endomorph, size and strength came easy but getting lean was a bitch
Want to get back to regular training and maybe get my lats along with everything else back up
George the animal steele...
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overthink shit much?
Another diet/bulk/cycle/bicep curl record/boxer... idea he will start and never finish.
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been reading and sourcing through more articles bout pro intake and.a few even.say to get 2 grams per pound like cCharles put 'em on the Glass
I remember years back I made sure to get in 1.5 grams per pound and I gained 5 pound in 6 weeks and my body fat went down
So I'm gonna start with 1.5 grams per pound
If you are natural why take diet advice for those loaded on drugs? Wont end well
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high protein intake isnt hard is it
beef with a salad or something
a few proteinshakes per day, like one in the morning, after training, one before bed thats like 100+ grams from that alone
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If you are natural why take diet advice for those loaded on drugs? Wont end well
that body recomp that I did on 1.5 grams per pound was as a natty (gain 5 pounds while dropping fat in 6 weekz)
so let's see if can do it again
it is the HOLY GRAIL in fact
would be so very cool if I stay the same weight while gong from 16-17% to ~7% 8)
and rather, I'm gonna get all the pprotein from REAL FOOD
cheese, milk, chicken and tuna
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World class lower leg vascularity
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high protein intake isnt hard is it
beef with a salad or something
a few proteinshakes per day, like one in the morning, after training, one before bed thats like 100+ grams from that alone
Anything more than 1g/lb/day is a pain in the ass
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Anything more than 1g/lb/day is a pain in the ass
yep getting it from real food only is a fucking chore
but if it works, it works and that's just the price that you gotta pay
I'm starting out at 1.5 and I just hope I won't have to go to goddamn 2
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high protein intake isnt hard is it
beef with a salad or something
a few proteinshakes per day, like one in the morning, after training, one before bed thats like 100+ grams from that alone
feeling bloated and sick all fucking day and constant farting, fuck protein powder, its a pile of shite.
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Why the fuck is anyone even replying to this lunatic?
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Why the fuck is anyone even replying to this lunatic?
Yep, who but a gimmick would have posted that leg picture...
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Yep, who but a gimmick would have posted that leg picture...
Curt James.
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Curt James.
Looks better than you :D
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Looks better than you :D
Compared to what? Dude looks like a freshly chilled corpse at the morgue. An abomination for a dude who supposedly eats healthy and works out all of the time. I give him credit for trying, but he is wasting his time.
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True... Its laughable he has any credence im the fitness scene, but bbing is a bizarro landscape of misfits
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Why the fuck is anyone even replying to this lunatic?
What other threads are worth replying to? The boards have been kinda slow
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What other threads are worth replying to? The boards have been kinda slow
post a few links to the threads you have started...
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Looks better than you :D
and I look better than you ;)
my lats have improved from this pic, even more of a V shape and wider shoulders
you dumbfucks keep forgetting that I ain't a bodybuilder and I don't wanna be one
but.... I am a PHYSIQUE ARTIST from the waist up
I posted the leg pic as a troll coz I don't give a flying fuck bout them and I don't even train them FOR
#physiqueartistfromthewaistup#
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and I look better than you ;)
my lats have improved from this pic, even more of a V shape and wider shoulders
you dumbfucks keep forgetting that I ain't a bodybuilder and I don't wanna be one
but.... I am a PHYSIQUE ARTIST from the waist up
I posted the leg pic as a troll coz I don't give a flying fuck bout them and I don't even train them FOR
#physiqueartistfromthewaistup#
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you look shit there
post a pic standing next to anyone else who trains
a close up like that shows nothing
in every pic you post from any distance or in clothing
you look like you have never even touched a weight
its just poor genetics mate
you should try something else :)
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only a few days into this diet and I'm already making progress
feels damn good 8)
I was hoping to go from a buck 77 which is where I am now to a buck 65 dropping by from 16-17 to 7-8
but now it looks like I'll be able to stay a current weight but recomp thanks to macro manipulation
my previous diet was cookies dipping in coconut fat and other junk but now that I was upped the protein and dropped most junky shirt it's working like MAGIC
feck yeah! feeling damn good bout dis
protein FTMFW! !!!
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light compound movements to failure high reps perfect form, rest paused till failure then superset with totally dif body part
finish off with lower back exercise to stay healthy
3to4 sets count reps ....youll do the workout again a couple days see if u get more reps
youre working out wrong if ur not the same strength or better in 3 days
if u train everyday u should get a job or hobby instead
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^^^ yep, you need gotta get stronger every workout to make progress aand I'm indeed getting stronger
and shitnessfrnezy I'd happily kick your assistanceand knock you the fuck out
shitzo is spot on about you, creepy stalker and a huge PUSSY
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^^^ yep, you need gotta get stronger every workout to make progress aand I'm indeed getting stronger
and shitnessfrnezy I'd happily kick your assistanceand knock you the fuck out
shitzo is spot on about you, creepy stalker and a huge PUSSY
getting stronger in a calorific deficit?
And getting stronger every workout, dont talk so fucking stupid
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dont talk so fucking stupid
He can't help himself.
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getting stronger in a calorific deficit?
And getting stronger every workout, dont talk so fucking stupid
slight calorie deficit but huge macro manipulation
calories not down more than 300 or so I think
but.... now I'm taking in 240 protein per.day from complete protein sources only, I do not count protein from incomplete proteins
before I was taking in maybe 100-120 grams protein per day and very high fat and high carb
just finished preacher curls and got 6 reps with 44 kg, my previous PR was 39 kg for 5
do up 1 rep with plus 5 kg sure is an increase me thinks ;-)
PRO-FUCKING-TIEN
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Glad your using macro manipulation or you'd be making zero progress at all.
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Also I'm hoping you're keeping notes so eventually you can write a book entitled
"Malnourishment of the Male Physique" so all the anorexic fags out there could buy it and be well on their way to looking like they've been hit with polio and Ebola at the same time.
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Bro you're doing it wrong. Up your protein to 500 grams per day spaced out over 14 meals and use this for intense muscle gains.
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Bro you're doing it wrong. Up your protein to 500 grams per day spaced out over 14 meals and use this for intense muscle gains.
lol
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lol
does he still pm you for compliments
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Bro you're doing it wrong. Up your protein to 500 grams per day spaced out over 14 meals and use this for intense muscle gains.
Charles put 'eme on the Glass recommends 1.5-2 grams per pound
FYI, I come from Columbus Ohio and I think you may have heard of Mr. Jim Lorimer, you know, he's the one who was Arnold Best Man and he ran the olympia when it was in Columbus in the late 70s and then he ran the Arnold Classic again in Columbus Ohio for over 20 years
well get this ma man.... His son Mr. Robert Lorimer trained me back in the late 90s (without pay) and he kept encouraging me to do.natural shows coz he said I had very good genetics
but of course, an expert like him, whose father is a very close friend of Arnolds doesn't know physique genetics
uh huh, sure thing chief, sure thing
I think Robert and JM know more than you turds, thank you very much
oh, and JM said I had the genetics to look just like bob weatherhill the Canadian light heavy champ from the 90s if I told the right drugs and followed the right diet
but yeah, JM and Mr. Lorimer don't know what they are talking about lolz
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slight calorie deficit but huge macro manipulation
calories not down more than 300 or so I think
but.... now I'm taking in 240 protein per.day from complete protein sources only, I do not count protein from incomplete proteins
before I was taking in maybe 100-120 grams protein per day and very high fat and high carb
just finished preacher curls and got 6 reps with 44 kg, my previous PR was 39 kg for 5
do up 1 rep with plus 5 kg sure is an increase me thinks ;-)
PRO-FUCKING-TIEN
Just out of curiousity post you typical daily diet with measurement of the protein,carbs and fat in each meal
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Charles put 'eme on the Glass recommends 1.5-2 grams per pound
FYI, I come from Columbus Ohio and I think you may have heard of Mr. Jim Lorimer, you know, he's the one who was Arnold Best Man and he ran the olympia when it was in Columbus in the late 70s and then he ran the Arnold Classic again in Columbus Ohio for over 20 years
well get this ma man.... His son Mr. Robert Lorimer trained me back in the late 90s (without pay) and he kept encouraging me to do.natural shows coz he said I had very good genetics
but of course, an expert like him, whose father is a very close friend of Arnolds doesn't know physique genetics
uh huh, sure thing chief, sure thing
I think Robert and JM know more than you turds, thank you very much
oh, and JM said I had the genetics to look just like bob weatherhill the Canadian light heavy champ from the 90s if I told the right drugs and followed the right diet
but yeah, JM and Mr. Lorimer don't know what they are talking about lolz
Either this is a really good gimmick or its really dj181, I hoped for his sake it was a gimmick account because if hes real its the most pathetic individual to ever log onto the internet.
Exactly!!! i'm from columbus, ohio, the home of westside barbell, multiple world powerlifting champs! and yeah, i'm no squatter, but i used to do bp comps and one of my good friends was a world-class bench press competitor. anyways, this kid is squatting 605 for 9 without knee wraps, i guaren-g*d-damn-tee he could squat 800 plus in a meet!
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Either this is a really good gimmick or its really dj181, I hoped for his sake it was a gimmick account because if hes real its the most pathetic individual to ever log onto the internet.
yeah you know better than Blakey and Lorimer
sure you do.cheif sure ya do
post my rrecent ripped pics here , but you won't ;-)
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Just out of curiousity post you typical daily diet with measurement of the protein,carbs and fat in each meal
I'm at tthe middle of bombing tris now brother, so I'll pout up the diet info later
FYI, tris are up 5 kg and 2 reps
getting stronger baby!
JM and Robert are correctomundo
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the ohio thing is a lie he is a romanian gypsy twink
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Charles put 'eme on the Glass recommends 1.5-2 grams per pound
FYI, I come from Columbus Ohio and I think you may have heard of Mr. Jim Lorimer, you know, he's the one who was Arnold Best Man and he ran the olympia when it was in Columbus in the late 70s and then he ran the Arnold Classic again in Columbus Ohio for over 20 years
well get this ma man.... His son Mr. Robert Lorimer trained me back in the late 90s (without pay) and he kept encouraging me to do.natural shows coz he said I had very good genetics
but of course, an expert like him, whose father is a very close friend of Arnolds doesn't know physique genetics
uh huh, sure thing chief, sure thing
I think Robert and JM know more than you turds, thank you very much
oh, and JM said I had the genetics to look just like bob weatherhill the Canadian light heavy champ from the 90s if I told the right drugs and followed the right diet
but yeah, JM and Mr. Lorimer don't know what they are talking about lolz
I had the genetics to look just like bob weatherhill the Canadian light heavy champ from the 90s if I told the right drugs and followed the right diet
DJWEATHERHILL ;D,,HE HAD A GREAT BUILD..
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Charles put 'eme on the Glass recommends 1.5-2 grams per pound
FYI, I come from Columbus Ohio and I think you may have heard of Mr. Jim Lorimer, you know, he's the one who was Arnold Best Man and he ran the olympia when it was in Columbus in the late 70s and then he ran the Arnold Classic again in Columbus Ohio for over 20 years
well get this ma man.... His son Mr. Robert Lorimer trained me back in the late 90s (without pay) and he kept encouraging me to do.natural shows coz he said I had very good genetics
but of course, an expert like him, whose father is a very close friend of Arnolds doesn't know physique genetics
uh huh, sure thing chief, sure thing
I think Robert and JM know more than you turds, thank you very much
oh, and JM said I had the genetics to look just like bob weatherhill the Canadian light heavy champ from the 90s if I told the right drugs and followed the right diet
but yeah, JM and Mr. Lorimer don't know what they are talking about lolz
So am I. So when did you train at Eastside? We possibly know the same people.
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So am I. So when did you train at Eastside? We possibly know that same people.
I sense a vacation for dj181
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I sense a vacation for dj181
I was just in Columbus last month. Go to the city a lot. This could be the start of a beautiful friendship. ;D
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I'm at tthe middle of bombing tris now brother, so I'll pout up the diet info later
FYI, tris are up 5 kg and 2 reps
getting stronger baby!
JM and Robert are correctomundo
Hey when you get done bombing tris let me know who you know at west side and who's this JM you are referring to.
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Hey when you get done bombing tris let me know who you know at west side and who's this JM you are referring to.
I live near Europe now
haven't had contact with Blakey or Lorimer for nearly 15 years
I need trained at West side, I trained at World Gym in Worthington Ohio
anyways diet does make a difference and you need lots of complete proteins
alcohol is a terrible drug, and it fucked me up for many years
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I live near Europe now
haven't had contact with Blakey or Lorimer for nearly 15 years
I need trained at West side, I trained at World Gym in Worthington Ohio
anyways diet does make a difference and you need lots of complete proteins
alcohol is a terrible drug, and it fucked me up for many years
Who's JM
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Who's JM
Dr.JM Blakely
type him Iinto Google there's lots of info and photosof him
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Dr.JM Blakely
type him Iinto Google there's lots of info and photosof him
throw up one of you together with him
easiest way to prove you arent a delusional lying piece of scum
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Just out of curiousity post you typical daily diet with measurement of the protein,carbs and fat in each meal
I eat 3 times a day
before was this... B: 75 grams of cheese dipped in honey and 5 or 6 chocolate cookies with coconut oil spread on them
L: big Mac ssupersize fry and coke and cchocolate Sunday
D: chicken sandwich with not much chicken and again 5 or 6 cookies covered with coco oil
have no idea the marcos but for sure not much COMPLETE PROTIEN
now it looks like this: B: 400 grams of cottage cheese
L: 3 cans of tuna
D: 3 cans of tuna with some roman noodles
this current diet contains 250 grams of COMPLETE PROTIEN
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dj181 missing in action now hes been put on the spot about Westside barbell.
Gimmick tactic 101 is to disappear for a while and then come back posting like nothing has happened and totally glossing over the subject.
I predict another old grainy photo and a question about how much someone can bench and what they weigh.
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dj181 missing in action now hes been put on the spot about Westside barbell.
Gimmick tactic 101 is to disappear for a while and then come back posting like nothing has happened and totally glossing over the subject.
I predict another old grainy photo and a question about how much someone can bench and what they weigh.
its his trolling technique
make fake statements then ignore the replies
three types of hooks
i'm a physique artist
ask for advice then totally ignore it
when the thread dies throw up an annoying post to get a reaction
problem is the real troll job is the person who is running the account is either a delusional retard or deliberately throwing the original dj under the bus
anyone reading his posts isnt thinking clever troll job
its too dumb to be called that
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its his trolling technique
make fake statements then ignore the replies
three types of hooks
i'm a physique artist
ask for advice then totally ignore it
when the thread dies throw up an annoying post to get a reaction
problem is the real troll job is the person who is running the account is either a delusional retard or deliberately throwing the original dj under the bus
anyone reading his posts isnt thinking clever troll job
its too dumb to be called that
the most shocking outcome would be that its the real dj and this is how his life really is and hes not trolling...
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the most shocking outcome would be that its the real dj and this is how his life really is and hes not trolling...
yep
its hard to comprehend that someone like that exists
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hahahaha.. looks like disgusted scared him off.
Nice one mate.
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thanks for the support fellas
just finished up back and had strength increases once again 8)
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thanks for the support fellas
just finished up back and had strength increases once again 8)
exactly as bigmc predicted.
when you get a minute can you have the discussion about your time at westside barbell with Disgusted. ;D
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exactly as bigmc predicted.
when you get a minute can you have the discussion about your time at westside barbell with Disgusted. ;D
was never at westside but my trainer Dr. JM Blakely sure as he'll was ;)
p.s. Louis Simmons would cheer me and my bud on while we competed in bench at meets where he was
he'd scream out "Drive! Drive! DRIVE!" while we were pressing our weights 8)
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was never at westside but my trainer Dr. JM Blakely sure as he'll was ;)
p.s. Louis Simmons would cheer me and my bud on while we competed in bench at meets where he was
he'd scream out "Drive! Drive! DRIVE!" while we were pressing our weights 8)
You never competed in bench events , if you did you sure would have mentioned in before.
Come on mate, its clear how you kept this pretence up for so long, just go back through djs old posts and quote them and change key words to suit the current required response, that way it looks like the same posting style.
Some serious time wasting there but well done...
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tomorrow is chest day again and I'm very confident there will be continued improvement, so I'll keep you fellas posted
feels great making them natty gains 8)
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I eat 3 times a day
before was this... B: 75 grams of cheese dipped in honey and 5 or 6 chocolate cookies with coconut oil spread on them
L: big Mac ssupersize fry and coke and cchocolate Sunday
D: chicken sandwich with not much chicken and again 5 or 6 cookies covered with coco oil
have no idea the marcos but for sure not much COMPLETE PROTIEN
now it looks like this: B: 400 grams of cottage cheese
L: 3 cans of tuna
D: 3 cans of tuna with some roman noodles
this current diet contains 250 grams of COMPLETE PROTIEN
That is a lot of tuna brah, why not substitute chicken for one meal, not much of a difference in macro and even with dark meat the fat is incidental considering how low the cars are
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That is a lot of tuna brah, why not substitute chicken for one meal, not much of a difference in macro and even with dark meat the fat is incidental considering how low the cars are
commenting on a diet that doesnt exist?
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That is a lot of tuna brah, why not substitute chicken for one meal, not much of a difference in macro and even with dark meat the fat is incidental considering how low the cars are
funny you said that, as I just bought chicken breaststroke along with the tuna and cottage cheese
so now I get 44 grams from 2 ppacks of cottage cheese and 102 grams from 3 cans tuna and 115 grams from half a kg of chicken
so that's 261 total which is 1.5 per pound
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my carbs and fats are low but ill worry about them later, after i hit sub-7
I'll put up another arm shot in 2-3 weeks as I am confident there will be very good natty gains
my preacher curl mentzer style is up to 44 kg (1 bill) for 6
after 2 weeks or so it will be at 55 kg (1 bill+20) for 5-8
FACT
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at least he isnt even trying to be serious anymore and just 100 percent trolling
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This is one confusing overthinking clusterfuck of a thread. :(
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This is one confusing overthinking clusterfuck of a thread. :(
true coz sensitive emotional weak minded people let their emotions get in the way
FYI, just finished delts and added 5 kg to the bar and got the same # of reps
feels damn good making progress and getting stronger
Dr. Blakely and Mr. Lorimer know talent when they see it 8)
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Starting to sound very leopoldesque.
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You gotta drop $50 on some Melanotan2 & a month at a tanning salon. You're nearly translucent brother!