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Their state will continue down the road of fiscal irresponsibility with more and more of their cities going bankrupt if Californians vote for Brown again after Kashkari destroyed him. But, then again, most Californians are stupid libtards.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/guy-hammers-brown-california-governors-debate
In the first debate between Governor Jerry Brown and GOP challenger Neil Kashkari, Californians saw exactly why the 76-year-old Brown refuses to submit to a second debate. Kashkari, a business man and political neophyte, relentlessly hammered his career politician opponent on jobs and education leaving Brown appearing old, slow and unresponsive.

The performance was so one-sided even political analysts and the Left-wing San Jose Mercury News called it for Kashkari, easily:

“Two veteran political analysts said they thought Kashkari won the debate.

"His answers were crisper and more direct," said Jack Pitney, a political science and government professor at Claremont McKenna College. "And he stayed on focus. He kept bringing the debate around to the topics he wanted to talk about, which were jobs and education."

Bill Whalen, a research fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, said "the governor was not knocked down," but agreed that Kashkari did better in terms of style and points.

"He was more coherent than the governor," Whalen said. "More times than not, the governor went off into Jerry Brown mode where he was not answering the questions."

Kaskari pointed out the dismal four-year record of the Governor regarding jobs, education and poverty and mocked Brown for pitiful legislation like plastic bag bans and a recent law allowing restaurant patrons to bring their dogs to establishments. "The time for incrementalism has long since passed, governor," Kashkari said. "We actually need bold reforms to rebuild the middle class. Plastic bags isn't going to do it."

He also pledged to end the high-priced, unpopular high-speed rail project that Brown has championed.  "He's raising your gas prices to fund his vanity project, the high-speed train. What I call the crazy train."

When asked after the debate if he will agree to participate in another exchange of issues and ideas with his challenger before election day, Brown said, "I think we've exposed the differences."


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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2014, 06:52:34 AM »
Brown knows he was owned that is why he won't agree to a second debate:

"When asked after the debate if he will agree to participate in another exchange of issues and ideas with his challenger before election day, Brown said, "I think we've exposed the differences."

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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2014, 08:20:21 AM »
Brown knows he was owned that is why he won't agree to a second debate:

"When asked after the debate if he will agree to participate in another exchange of issues and ideas with his challenger before election day, Brown said, "I think we've exposed the differences."


The straw man types will march off any cliff for any dem - count on it

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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2014, 08:42:08 AM »
living in CA I can tell you it doesnt matter.

Brown could have come on the debate, pulled his pants down while taking a crap on the stage, jerking off on the audience and said "Fck whitey" and he would still win by a landslide



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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2014, 09:47:49 AM »
living in CA I can tell you it doesnt matter.

Brown could have come on the debate, pulled his pants down while taking a crap on the stage, jerking off on the audience and said "Fck whitey" and he would still win by a landslide

You are correct: it (the debate) does not matter because Brown summed up the argument for his candidacy in his opening statement: A lot of people forget the mess he inherited from Arnold.  The state was $27 billion in the red four years ago; a million jobs had been lost.  Brown vetoed the first California budget in the history of the state and sent it back to the legislature.  He made significant appropriate cuts.  The state is now in solid surplus.  1.4 million jobs have returned to CA since Brown has been in office...  'nuff said. 8)

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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2014, 04:55:06 PM »
You are correct: it (the debate) does not matter because Brown summed up the argument for his candidacy in his opening statement: A lot of people forget the mess he inherited from Arnold.  The state was $27 billion in the red four years ago; a million jobs had been lost.  Brown vetoed the first California budget in the history of the state and sent it back to the legislature.  He made significant appropriate cuts.  The state is now in solid surplus.  1.4 million jobs have returned to CA since Brown has been in office...  'nuff said. 8)

really? one word........

Toyota

'nuff said....lol

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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2014, 04:58:48 PM »
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Kashkari, a business man

Boo! Whitman!

Brown is terrible but remember our vote base is union workers, government "workers" , amnestied illegals, Hebrews, anchors, delusion liberals and minorities who vote against their own economic interests (asians)

Ain't no way a rep is getting back in here with our demographics

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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2014, 05:04:43 PM »
TESLA just moved to Nevada from CA...will generate 6500 jobs in its new factory.

really? one word........

Toyota

'nuff said....lol

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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2014, 05:50:14 PM »
The US will not let a state "go under".  They can vote how they want, knowing the federal government will bail them out.

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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2014, 06:22:36 PM »
A person will NEVER make good decisions, work hard or have personal responsibility so long as someone will bail him/her out..in short, the liberal way continues it's destructive ways!

The US will not let a state "go under".  They can vote how they want, knowing the federal government will bail them out.

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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2014, 06:55:50 AM »
Brown knows he was owned that is why he won't agree to a second debate:

"When asked after the debate if he will agree to participate in another exchange of issues and ideas with his challenger before election day, Brown said, "I think we've exposed the differences."


Do you even live in California?  The vast majority of people who do believe Brown has done an excellent job over the last four years.  Jobs are back... the $25- $30 billion budget hole (created by his predecessor) has been filled... and CA is so in the black, Brown is in a position to create a reserve fund for future rainy days.  No one who is paying attention believes those things would have happened under Meg Whitman (she wanted to immediately cut taxes for the wealthy and lay off 40,000 state workers).  The state is moving in the right direction... why would voters had the reins over to an unknown like Kashkari?  Answer?  They wont.

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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2014, 06:57:36 AM »
Jerry Brown surges ahead with the 'non-campaign' campaign
Carla Marinucci

Gov. Jerry Brown has $22 million in the bank and a 21-point lead in the polls, but as he seeks a historic fourth term, he's conducting one of the most unusual re-election campaigns ever witnessed by state voters - one in which he hasn't starred in a single TV or radio spot, campaign mailer, or Web video.

With less than three weeks to go before Californians can cast ballots, Brown's campaign spokesman said Tuesday that the governor doesn't even plan to be the star of his own appeals to voters this year. Instead, he'll focus on urging them to pass a pair of bond measures.

Propositions 1 and 2 - a $7 billion water-infrastructure bond and mandatory rainy-day budget reserve, respectively - are "a critical part of his agenda to further stabilize California's economy," spokesman Dan Newman said. "They're central to his governing philosophy - putting money aside in good times to avoid harsh cuts during downturns, and storing water for when it's needed most."

Brown is expected to take that message to voters in person and possibly on the airwaves.

His confident, no-frills strategy is a far cry from raucous gubernatorial contests of the recent past that have been awash in money and mudslinging.

In 2010, California voters were subjected to a $250 million slugfest between Brown and billionaire former eBay CEO Meg Whitman, who spent more than $140 million of her own money in losing.

In 2002, Democrat Gray Davis and Republican Bill Simon spent a then-unheard-of $100 million in a battle Davis ultimately won, only to be recalled a year later.
Different strategy

This year, Brown has taken an entirely new tack in his fight against Republican candidate Neel Kashkari, a former U.S. Treasury official who has used attention-getting gimmicks like posing as a jobless itinerant in Fresno to raise his profile rather than spending money he doesn't have.

Brown's strategy is "a non-campaign, which makes it a very smart campaign," said Jessica Levinson, who teaches political ethics as a law professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles.

The 76-year-old Brown, who first held statewide office in 1971, "doesn't need to introduce himself" to voters, Levinson said. "He has better name recognition than anyone else in the state. His platform is totally known. He's been governing since the Earth cooled."

And clearly, she said, "he's running against someone people don't even know."

A USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll released this week showed the efforts have paid off: The governor's approval rating is at 58 percent, the highest since he took office in 2011, while Kashkari - who has spent more than $2 million of his own money on the race - is still a mystery to more than 75 percent of voters.

Among likely voters, Brown leads Kashkari by a commanding 57 to 36 percent, the poll showed.

Brown's non-campaign strategy was evident Friday at the Presidio in San Francisco, where he swore in 1,000 potential young voters, all volunteers in the AmeriCorps service program.

The governor never even hinted he was running for re-election. But speaker after speaker reminded the audience of his lengthy resume in public life: One introduced him as the "founder of the modern service movement" for his work in launching the California Conservation Corps in 1976.

In recent weeks, Brown has been in the news not for his politicking, but for his work as the chief executive of the world's eighth-largest economy. Voters have been treated to stories of his negotiations with legislative and labor leaders to forge the water bond on the Nov. 4 ballot and his signing of a bill mandating sick leave for millions of California workers.

No wonder Brown feels little need to invest cash or staff on incidentals like a re-election campaign website, where the latest posted press release is from 2012. In a solidly blue state, he doesn't face the dilemma confronting Democrats elsewhere who are distancing themselves from President Obama and his sagging poll numbers.
Jerry Brown 'brand'

"Jerry Brown himself is a brand, and his brand is insulated against Obama and insulated against the Legislature," said politics Professor Corey Cook, who heads the University of San Francisco's Leo T. McCarthy Center for Public Service.

"He's been so effective in being above the political fray that he can just swoop in and say, 'I'm Jerry Brown - and I'm done,' " Cook said. "Jerry is operating as if he's at the start of his next term, not as if he's seeking re-election."

Kashkari, meanwhile, is struggling for traction, lacking the endorsements even of two other Republican statewide candidates, controller hopeful Ashley Swearengin and Pete Peterson, who is running for secretary of state.

Kashkari rails against Brown as a failed leader promoting a nonexistent "California comeback," but voters don't appear to be buying, said David McCuan, professor of political science at Sonoma State University.

By working with legislators on both sides of the aisle, and by keeping Democratic spending in check, Brown has stayed in the public eye while appearing to be the honest broker, McCuan said.

Brown's re-election campaign doesn't have a motto, but McCuan said the governor could easily adopt one: "Jerry Brown is the third way."

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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2014, 09:05:49 AM »
Do you even live in California?  The vast majority of people who do believe Brown has done an excellent job over the last four years.  Jobs are back... the $25- $30 billion budget hole (created by his predecessor) has been filled... and CA is so in the black, Brown is in a position to create a reserve fund for future rainy days.  No one who is paying attention believes those things would have happened under Meg Whitman (she wanted to immediately cut taxes for the wealthy and lay off 40,000 state workers).  The state is moving in the right direction... why would voters had the reins over to an unknown like Kashkari?  Answer?  They wont.

 What did Brown do to get jobs back and create this reserve? Liberals are good for a quick fix but ALWAYS fail in the long run. What about this waist of money put out developing this high speed rail from no where to no where? There is plenty more wasteful spending. Not all that long ago it was said that these numbers you just presented were in fact falsified I believe by it's own budget commission. Right now, they are requiring at a certain time of the day to cut your power. If they find you're wasting water (what a joke) you get fined. If every was as great as you think it is, we wouldn't need these mandatory cuts. Are you kidding?

 

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Re: Kashkari owns Brown, but the stupid Californians will vote dumocrat
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2014, 09:08:03 AM »
Thank God that government workers pensions are covered and there's tax dollars flowing into the general fund!

I can only imagine how terrible things here would have been if we'd had some financial responsibility for the last few years. As a homeowner I'm especially looking forward to the plans they have for circumventing prop 13 to ensure there's always a generous stash of cash for The Childrens and those wonderful illegals

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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2014, 03:19:59 PM »
Brown cruises to victory over Kashkari
By Carla Marinucci and Melody Gutierrez

In one of the lowest-profile gubernatorial elections in modern California history, Gov. Jerry Brown — who never appeared in a single TV ad on his own behalf — sailed to a historic fourth term Tuesday against little-known Republican Neel Kashkari.

On a night that was grim for Democrats nationwide, nothing went wrong for Brown. Besides the wide lead he opened over Kashkari, the two ballot measures for which he campaigned — Proposition 1, a $7.5 billion water-infrastructure bond, and Proposition 2, beefing up the state’s rainy-day reserve — passed by huge margins.

With his wife, Anne Gust Brown, at his side, Brown said moments after the polls closed that he was looking forward to “this particular gift of another four years.”

“The key for the next four years is to make the government do what it’s supposed to do,” Brown said, adding that he would “do my very best ... to do what’s right for California.”

The governor chose as his backdrop the Historic Governor’s Mansion in Sacramento, once occupied by his father, the late Gov. Edmund G. “Pat” Brown — a setting that not only dramatized his family’s political legacy in California, but his own status as a fixture in state politics for more than 40 years.

Brown’s margin of victory — with 26 percent of precincts counted, his lead was 57.5 percent to 42.5 percent — could end up being a low-water mark for Republicans. The party’s worst beating in a gubernatorial election in the past 40 years came in 1978 — when Brown earned a second term with a 56 to 36 percent victory over GOP state Attorney General Evelle Younger.

'Comfortable’ pick

Tuesday’s results show that for most California voters, Brown is “not the devil we know — he’s the governor we know,” said Jessica Levinson, who teachers political ethics at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. “Most people, at some point, have voted for Jerry Brown for governor, and it’s comforting. Voters tend to be comfortable with routine.”

The victory clears the path for the 76-year-old Brown to spend the next four years working on an agenda that would define his second-stint legacy in the governor’s office. That agenda includes making strides in construction of a high-speed-rail line between San Francisco and Los Angeles, putting long-term water-infrastructure changes in place, and firming up the state’s revenue outlook as temporary tax increases approved by voters in 2012 begin to expire.

Brown solidified his strength going into another term by campaigning not for his own re-election or even other Democrats, but by investing $6million of his political money in Props. 1 and 2. In TV ads and a handful of campaign appearances, Brown portrayed both as essential to stabilizing California’s economy over the long run, by providing more reliable water supplies and minimizing roller-coaster revenue rides.

Asked Tuesday night about his immediate goals, Brown said, “I just spent the last several months saying, 'Save water, save money,’ and those two are pillars.”

He said the state must be focused on “living within our means” while investing in schools, criminal justice system and infrastructure.

“I’m not under any illusions that this is some kind of picnic,” Brown said. “It’s difficult, because California is divided. Modoc doesn’t see the world like Berkeley, and Berkeley doesn’t see the world like Orange County.”

Still, Brown will have solid Democratic majorities to work with in both houses of the Legislature, though possibly not the two-thirds supermajority that Democrats held for much of the past four years.

Short shrift for party

Bill Whalen, a former adviser to Gov. Pete Wilson and a fellow with the Hoover Institution, said Brown’s failure to campaign much for his own party and his sparse record of endorsements for Democrats — even his decision not to deliver his election night remarks at the state party’s gathering in Sacramento — strongly suggested that a legislative supermajority was not one of the governor’s priorities.

“Once upon a time, it was critical for the budget — but now the budget is a majority vote,” Whalen said. “Politically, Jerry Brown is a party of one — and there have been many Democrats frustrated with that approach.”

Opponent ignored

In spending his energies on Props. 1 and 2, Brown all but ignored Kashkari, 40, a former federal Treasury Department official and first-time candidate who spent at least $3.1million of his own money on the campaign.


Kashkari, speaking to a crowd of about 70 supporters in Orange County, said, “I have gone into communities all over California and, you know what I found? People couldn’t care less what party I was from.”

He said the issues he ran on — jobs and education — “go beyond any political lines. They are American values.”

Kashkari did not campaign as a typical Republican — he favors abortion rights and same-sex marriage rights, and he spent a week posing as a homeless man in Fresno trying to show that Brown’s “California comeback” was an illusion.

He hinted that he wasn’t through with California politics, saying, “I promise you. I’m just getting warmed up.”

Republican Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, a Tea Party-favored conservative who came within four points of Kashkari in the June primary, said Kashkari’s struggles showed that he was more the choice of party leaders and donors than GOP activists.

“He didn’t stand up on issues, he didn’t galvanize the base,” Donnelly said. “People don’t want a pretty, clever, packaged candidate — they want boots in the street.”

'You know me’

All in all, it made for one of the strangest gubernatorial elections ever in California, and a sharp contrast from 2010, when Brown had to overcome a $140million spending onslaught from his Republican opponent, Meg Whitman.

Brown made just a handful of appearances, even on behalf of his pet ballot measures, and never really laid out a case for a detailed agenda for his fourth term. But then, political observers said, he is the rare California politician who didn’t have to.

“His case is, 'You know me better than anyone you’ve ever known,’” said Corey Cook, a political science professor at the University of San Francisco. “'I’m fiscally responsible. I’ll manage the Democratic Party well — I’m a Democrat, but I’m a balanced one.’”

Cook noted that Brown has already reassured voters he will keep Democrats “in line” in Sacramento. Last week, the governor suggested that the unspent millions in his campaign fund could come in handy if he has to go to voters to pass ballot measures, as he did with Proposition 30, the 2012 initiative that temporarily raised sales taxes and wealthy people’s income taxes.

If “there are issues that come up in ’16 or ’18 ... some major ballot-measure battle that I can’t even conceive of,” Brown said, he wants to be ready.

Cook said that with “some talk of putting high-speed rail back on the ballot,” Brown is clearly armed and ready.

“If you’re a governor, you have to be prepared to fight on two fronts,” he said — “with the Legislature, and you might have to go to the ballot.”