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Lance Armstrong 'comes clean' over doping in Oprah Winfrey interview
• Winfrey: 'He did not come clean in the manner I had expected'
• Interview to be broadcast over two nights instead of one
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Oprah Winfrey has confirmed that after years of furious denials and threats Lance Armstrong finally "came clean" over his doping past during their two-and-a-half hour interview, due to be broadcast later this week.
The US TV presenter appeared on CBS This Morning to talk about the interview with Armstrong, which was filmed on Monday in his hometown of Austin, and said that the manner of his confession was "surprising" to her.
She implied that Armstrong, stripped of seven Tour de France titles after a Usada report placed him at the heart of the "most sophisticated doping programme sport has ever seen", had been more candid than she expected. "He did not come clean in the manner I expected. I was surprised," said Winfrey, who said that Armstrong was highly prepared and had "certainly prepped himself".
Winfrey, who said that the interview will now be broadcast over two days rather than one, said she was "satisfied with the answers". She added: "He was just ready … he met the moment."
The interview will be aired on Winfrey's OWN network in the US and the Discovery Channel in the UK and she said it was the biggest she has ever done. "A couple of times he was emotional but emotional doesn't begin to describe the intensity and the difficulty he had talking about these issues," she told CBS.
Winfrey also said she did not allow Armstrong's lawyers in the room while they were recording, although he did have a team of people present who would address any issues they had afterwards. She said they had none.
Arrangements were made when Winfrey, who has interviewed Armstrong several times before, met with the disgraced cyclist in Hawaii. She had earlier emailed him when the Usada's sensational report was published but he was "not ready" to talk at that point.
The interview was moved to a hotel in Austin after the original plan to film at his house had to be changed because news crews had staked it out. Winfrey told CBS she "hand-carried" the interview tapes "in my bag with dog food" and revealed that during a break in filming Armstrong asked: "Will there be a point where you lighten up?"
It is the first time Armstrong has given an interview since he lost his titles, was dropped by sponsors and pilloried by the public for his part in a doping conspiracy that spanned more than a decade and was described in excoriating detail in a 202–page report by Usada.
The Texan is at the centre of several ongoing legal disputes, amid renewed speculation that he would repay some of the millions of dollars that US Postal invested in his team, while the Sunday Times is suing him for the repayment of a libel settlement the newspaper was forced to pay him over doping allegations.
Since Usada published its "reasoned decision" in October, ratified some weeks later by cycling's much criticised global governing body, the UCI, Armstrong has been deserted by a succession of high-profile supporters and sponsors, including Nike, and lost millions of dollars' worth of endorsements. He has also stepped down from his position as chairman of Livestrong, the charity he established after winning his battle with testicular cancer.
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He should have just kept his mouth shut and been done with it all.
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oprah may have spilled over for this appearance
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Bastard cheat! I hope he gets cancer or something. - try winning against that Lancey boy
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I'm waiting for the "One Nut Armstrong" gimmick to show up on here any day now.
P.S.: Oprah, you missed your carb load. Big Mike Cox would like to have a word with you.
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Fuck that. It's not cheating if everyone is doing it. He wasn't gaining an advantage since everyone in the fucking race was on something
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Fuck that. It's not cheating if everyone is doing it. He wasn't gaining an advantage since everyone in the fucking race was on something
i have no problem with him doping. it's a sport where everyone does it... lance outworked those other cyclists.
on ESPN, they're talking about how he used to sue/ruin people who accused him of steroid use. Dude went on Colin's show to talk about how lance sued him into being broke, he was a former teammate who did doping with lance or something. He was telling the truth, and lance ruined him. Lots of stories of lance suing anyone who said they doped with him. Sounds like he was a little crazy in real life, a real dick to people.
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did he end up banging her after the interview?
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He still plan on ripping people off their money to feel the need to do what he s doing, or he simply would have shut his mouth and enjoyed his millions. Wonder what he s going to sell next; maybe he wants to host stuff on tv. He ll obviously wont admit to doping and will say everyone else does it tho, but wont go too far as to say it's the same in every single pro sport. There wont be anything "surprising" at all from his "confession". It's all marketing.
The real problem is that people want to see amazing performances and it requires athletes to take drugs, the problem is that most humans are animals and are excited by blood and competition, it lies in our deep intrinsical inner nature. Are athletes going to tell those who support, worship them, they are hypocrits? Doubt it, it's a win win situation, athletes need people to worship them and spectators need athletes to entertain themselves, just like our ancestors enternained themselves watching gladiators.
BTW congrats to winfrey for being three times heavier than armstrong.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/the-turnstile/espn-stuart-scott-announces-cancer-returned-030452684.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/the-turnstile/espn-stuart-scott-announces-cancer-returned-030452684.html)
ESPN’s Stuart Scott announces on Twitter that his cancer has returned
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ESPN anchor Stuart Scott has announced that his cancer has returned. On Monday evening, he wrote on Twitter:
"Blessed by prayers..I'm back in the Fight. C reared its head again. Chemo evry 2 wks but I'll still work, still work out..still #LIVESTRONG"
Amid tweets of sympathy from followers, including Robert Griffin III and Jason Taylor, Scott remained upbeat. "Thanks for prayers..ill fight w ALL C survivors & loved ones. Cancer wants to re-appear..picked the right guy cuz I HIT HARD all day long!!" He gave his followers a look inside his routine: "Here's what I do right aftr chemo. Leave the infusion center & go STRAIGHT 2 either do a p90x wkout or train MMA..THATS how you #LIVESTRONG"
According to Touched By Cancer magazine, Scott first took ill in 2007 while at a Monday Night Football game. An emergency appendectomy revealed the presence of appendiceal cancer. After six months of chemo, Scott was cancer-free until early 2011. At that time, doctors discovered that malignant tumors had developed on his small intestine. More surgery and chemotherapy treated the cancer, but it has apparently returned again.
“Cancer sucks, and the effects of chemotherapy suck, and you’re going to feel like crap sometimes,” he said last year. “But you’re going to feel like that whether you’re lying in bed or going to work or working out, so you might as well go out there and live your life. If you believe you’re not being touched by this, then it’s much better."
He continued: “I love my job. Those of us who do what we do, we’re blessed. Being on when you don’t feel well is not the challenge. I love writing. I love creating our shows every night. And by the time it’s time to go on, you’re charged. And when you’re going through something like this, going to work helps. Having that energy helps. Having a positive mindset helps.”
Best wishes to Scott in his fight.
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Nike don't give a shit about dropping Lance
they still have Kobe Rapist signed for a few more years
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Cycling :P
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Oprah Has some Fat ol Titties ,,,, i would bust a load of warm nut on them fuckers
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Good old Kobe
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Oprah Has some Fat ol Titties ,,,, i would bust a load of warm nut on them fuckers
Tito24 goes first. I think he said he'd like to fuck Oprah with a kkk hat on.
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So he wants more money?
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Winfrey: 'He did not come clean in the manner I had expected'
This statement confirms that there will still be doubt as to whether or not Lance's alleged "coming clean" to Oprah will be considered an admission of guilt. I expect Lance to say something like "I made some mistakes which I regret" or that kind of thing, but as the statement says, he will not truly come clean and admit it directly. Trust me on that. I predict that after the 2-part interviews are over, views will be left with a "what the fuck?" feeling, that they were not duped by Lance Armstrong, but duped by the media hype that they would actually get to see Lance confess, when it's becoming clear that it won't be a true confession after all.
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exactly
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ik kom klar
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Without competing, Lance is a lost soul and has nothing in life(outside of his monetary value). His ego needs to be stroked so going on Oprah is his way of(possibly) being able to compete in triathlons after confessing. Plus, by going on Oprah, he knows that the millions of people(whom dont even follow cycling) will forgive him and use the *aww, just leave poor Lance alone* excuse. Hes appearing in front of the perfect demographic audience to gain some fans again. He is a master strategist.
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He should have just kept his mouth shut and been done with it all.
I think he should have admitted it from the get go.
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Oprah Has some Fat ol Titties ,,,, i would bust a load of warm nut on them fuckers
google the model "ofrah", and you will be happy!
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google the model "ofrah", and you will be happy!
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hahaha...
She had a run in the early 2000s. Made some headlines.
And now we know what has kept Steadman warm at night.
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This statement confirms that there will still be doubt as to whether or not Lance's alleged "coming clean" to Oprah will be considered an admission of guilt. I expect Lance to say something like "I made some mistakes which I regret" or that kind of thing, but as the statement says, he will not truly come clean and admit it directly. Trust me on that. I predict that after the 2-part interviews are over, views will be left with a "what the fuck?" feeling, that they were not duped by Lance Armstrong, but duped by the media hype that they would actually get to see Lance confess, when it's becoming clear that it won't be a true confession after all.
boom. Exactly my thought.
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I'm waiting for the "One Nut Armstrong" gimmick to show up on here any day now.
P.S.: Oprah, you missed your carb load. Big Mike Cox would like to have a word with you.
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In related breaking news , the champion baked bean eater just confessed he farts a lot.
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He should have just kept his mouth shut and been done with it all.
this.
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He should have just kept his mouth shut and been done with it all.
you feel betrayed adonis :P ?
that guy is a psychopath.he does not need you to sympathize with him and if he knew of you he would despise you
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He's an attention whore to the max.
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He's going to use the cancer as an excuse for using something...I wouldn't even doubt it if he throws out the "I felt like a lesser man with one testicle" and doctors told me I could never produce the same amount of testosterone as a normal man. And most of the housewives who watch the OWN network will sympathize with Armstrong. He's a scammer to the end.
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hes a little bitch just like that golf dude woods
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:D
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i have no problem with him doping. it's a sport where everyone does it... lance outworked those other cyclists.
on ESPN, they're talking about how he used to sue/ruin people who accused him of steroid use. Dude went on Colin's show to talk about how lance sued him into being broke, he was a former teammate who did doping with lance or something. He was telling the truth, and lance ruined him. Lots of stories of lance suing anyone who said they doped with him. Sounds like he was a little crazy in real life, a real dick to people.
This, on all counts. Of course he wouldn't admit to doping. But ruining other dopers while he was juiced to the gills himself is fucking low. I hope everyone he tried to ruin sues the shit out of him.
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This, on all counts. Of course he wouldn't admit to doping. But ruining other dopers while he was juiced to the gills himself is fucking low. I hope everyone he tried to ruin sues the shit out of him.
That's the sticking point. Lance has to 'confess' without then opening up himself to be ruined/counter-sued in return. I'm sure he'll be %100 lawyered up to make sure this doesn't happen.
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interview tonight
i will not be watching it
i will be watching LBJ dunking all over kobe tonight
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i will be watching LBJ dunking all over kobe tonight]
espn? tnt? what channel? i dont watch most nba regular season but woudl love to see this matchup
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espn? tnt? what channel? i dont watch most nba regular season but woudl love to see this matchup
TNT
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TNT
allow me to offer my thanks!
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hes a little bitch just like that golf dude woods
Tiger Woods may just be the stupidest person on the planet. Rumored to want his ex-wife back and may be willing to give her 350 million in an agreement if he cheats on her. wTF...If I was his wife, I spend a 50 million dollars on top notch models and whores and send them out trying to get Tiger to bang them.
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2013/01/tiger-woods-ex-wife-elin-would-take-him-back-if-350-million-non-cheating-clause-in-prenup/
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allow me to offer my thanks!
NIIICE!
ManTe should of used anyone of those pics to CBS as his girlfriend before the National Championship Game
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Didnt someone say on here that maybe even his cancer might have been faked?
well...
Investigation Reveals Lance Armstrong Never Had Cancer
Champion cyclist Lance Armstrong faked his battle with cancer in a shocking effort to gain millions in endorsement deals, The Daily Currant can exclusively reveal.
According to a soon-to-be-released report from the U.S Anti-Doping Agency (USADA), Armstrong used doping doctors to falsify his medical records - fooling sponsors and the public into believing he had recovered from a cancer which had never even existed. ..
http://dailycurrant.com/2012/10/18/investigation-reveals-lance-armstrong-cancer/
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Lance Armstrong can take his apology and stick it up his ass. Oprah can suck nuts as far as I'm concerned too.
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Lance would make a great US president ! He's like the honey badger, and wouldn't take any arab shit !!
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i have no problem with him doping. it's a sport where everyone does it... lance outworked those other cyclists.
on ESPN, they're talking about how he used to sue/ruin people who accused him of steroid use. Dude went on Colin's show to talk about how lance sued him into being broke, he was a former teammate who did doping with lance or something. He was telling the truth, and lance ruined him. Lots of stories of lance suing anyone who said they doped with him. Sounds like he was a little crazy in real life, a real dick to people.
Bullshit
He was allowed to outdope his more Talented opponents like Ullrich
It s true , they all were using , but Lance was Protected by the officials while othere were Hunt
No mercy for the Cheater
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interview tonight
i will not be watching it
i will be watching LBJ dunking all over kobe tonight
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They are both doped too
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Oprah's tits are looking super big.
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He should have just kept his mouth shut and been done with it all.
^^^^^
Nothing to be gained from this AT ALL.
Dude had tons of bank and didn't need anyone to justify shit... He is just too busy trying to be the "good guy" and doesn't realize that most real people don't give a shit.
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Nothing to be gained from this AT ALL.
Dude had tons of bank and didn't need anyone to justify shit... He is just too busy trying to be the "good guy" and doesn't realize that most real people don't give a shit.
This "Mea culpa" is ridiculous and will not endear him to anyone. He should have just walked away and gone on to work with Cancer research or whatever without the public eye on him. There is a part of him that is unable to do that because he can`t separate his identity from his sport and nor can the general public. The best thing to do is go gentle into the good night.
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They are both doped too
YES, HgH and Weed
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the only winner here is Ophra and her CHicken dinner Lance paid for with the viewer ratings
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the only winner here is Ophra and her CHicken dinner Lance paid for with the viewer ratings
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She's about to eat Lance here... :-X the Chicken McArmstrong.
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ive already heard enough from this aging drama queen.
take your one ball and little spandex ass and ride off a cliff >:(
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This "Mea culpa" is ridiculous and will not endear him to anyone. He should have just walked away and gone on to work with Cancer research or whatever without the public eye on him. There is a part of him that is unable to do that because he can`t separate his identity from his sport and nor can the general public. The best thing to do is go gentle into the good night.
I agree... He could have done so much good, but instead, he's busy trying to "save face".
What's the point in it... It will not change anyone's opinion of him and no matter how many "titles" people strip from him... At the end of the day, he came in first at the TDF many many times... Even if the cycling shills want to try to deny it.
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I agree... He could have done so much good, but instead, he's busy trying to "save face".
What's the point in it... It will not change anyone's opinion of him and no matter how many "titles" people strip from him... At the end of the day, he came in first at the TDF many many times... Even if the cycling shills want to try to deny it.
X 1000 They all used stuff till it came out of their noses.
Armstrong is the second best cycler ever, after Eddie Merckx..
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this fucker comes from a long line of Lying Armstrongs
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>:(
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this fucker comes from a long line of Lying Armstrongs
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LMFAO!
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this fucker comes from a long line of Lying Armstrongs
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lmao...Nicely played
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allow me to offer my thanks!
Ahhh, Leanne Tweeden.
Bravo to the Tweed Beav.
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The pussy is spilling his guts right now.
didn't know the channel existed or that I had it on my cable box until today..
His an attention whore ;D
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The pussy is spilling his guts right now.
didn't know the channel existed or that I had it on my cable box until today..
His an attention whore ;D
Sure you didn't
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:-X
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He's got real ball to come clean.
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He should have just kept his mouth shut and been done with it all.
If I were Lance, I would have just told everybody to go fuck themself cuz I took the same drugs as the guys riding next to me- which still makes me the mother fuckin' best there is bitch!!!
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If I were Lance, I would have just told everybody to go fuck themself cuz I took the same drugs as the guys riding next to me- which still makes me the mother fuckin' best there is bitch!!!
Exactly. Even if Lance took drugs he's still the champ because ALL OF THEM were on the juice!
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He's got real ball to come clean.
9/10
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His ex was pretty dishy too. SLURP.
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Exactly. Even if Lance took drugs he's still the champ because ALL OF THEM were on the juice!
assuming gh15 was supplying all the other riders as well - i doubt he was. also, what if the others responded to juice like tbumz?
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"I have always tried to be an honest sportsman." -Eddy Merckx
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Grown ass men doping up to ride on ten speeds.....smh.
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"I have always tried to be an honest sportsman." -Eddy Merckx
please - that dude was on all the speed he could get.
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please - that dude was on all the speed he could get.
Of course.
That quote is from an apology he gave to his fans after testing positive for speed- 1972 I think. I'm a huge Eddy Merckx fan.
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Anyone got a YouTube link for it yet?
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http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/story/_/id/8855686/lance-armstrong-admits-doping-interview-oprah-winfrey
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He said he started before he ever won the 1st tour de fagz,
Said he took everything u can Imagin, from blood doping , EPO, testosterone , and HGH
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does anyone really care, everyone knew he was taking something, fuck oprah, her show got undercut by that fake dead girlfriend story.
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does anyone really care, everyone knew he was taking something, fuck oprah, her show got undercut by that fake dead girlfriend story.
truth.
If Lance had shown us his notebooks from 1996-2007 that would have been worth watching.
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He ALWAYS used PED.
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He ALWAYS used PED.
they all do, im never suprised, i dont really think anyone is, the media just makes people suprised.
If they said Michael Jordan, kobe, lebron were taking PED's i wouldnt even bother reading the story, god bless them if they do, everyone wants a edge, everyone.
why do people wear moisturisers= to look younger
why do people wear fake tan = to look better
why do people take hgh = to look and feel better
who do people take medicine = to feel better
We all want to be better, look better, feel better, fuck natural athletes, how boring. I support Lance, just not his decision to be on oprah the fat bitches show.
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There were actually people on this site who said he was clean. lol...So many people's view on the world came crashing down today. Armstrong was a stone cold sociopath in the Oprah interview. He didn't even try to tear up or anything.
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The irony of Oprah asking him to come clean when she's been lying about being a Lesbian all her life. What a fcked up world we live in...
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The irony of Oprah asking him to come clean when she's been lying about being a Lesbian all her life. What a fcked up world we live in...
Truth! Not only that, but the sickening irony of having a bloated, sickle celled, fat coated, watermelon who couldn't ride a bicycle 100 yards downhill, questioning a man who won the Tour de France 7 times. Madness.
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There were actually people on this site who said he was clean. lol...So many people's view on the world came crashing down today. Armstrong was a stone cold sociopath in the Oprah interview. He didn't even try to tear up or anything.
I like that he didn't...On ESPN some reporter was crying..."he lied to my face, and i lied to my readers, what i saw today was a sociopath with no regrets" fuckstick reporters always making about them and their make believe integrity and then turn around and print shit they don't know dick about (steroids) and things from anonymous sources.
Lance was pretty stand up in he didn't point the finger at everyone else and use the level playing field argument, which is the truth and I personally would have been fine with it.
I think he made a mistake, he doesn't owe anyone anything.
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they all do, im never suprised, i dont really think anyone is, the media just makes people suprised.
If they said Michael Jordan, kobe, lebron were taking PED's i wouldnt even bother reading the story, god bless them if they do, everyone wants a edge, everyone.
why do people wear moisturisers= to look younger
why do people wear fake tan = to look better
why do people take hgh = to look and feel better
who do people take medicine = to feel better
We all want to be better, look better, feel better, fuck natural athletes, how boring. I support Lance, just not his decision to be on oprah the fat bitches show.
WOW i did not expect that from you, great post. :)
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I like that he didn't...On ESPN some reporter was crying..."he lied to my face, and i lied to my readers, what i saw today was a sociopath with no regrets" fuckstick reporters always making about them and their make believe integrity and then turn around and print shit they don't know dick about (steroids) and things from anonymous sources.
Lance was pretty stand up in he didn't point the finger at everyone else and use the level playing field argument, which is the truth and I personally would have been fine with it.
I think he made a mistake, he doesn't owe anyone anything.
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I like that he didn't...On ESPN some reporter was crying..."he lied to my face, and i lied to my readers, what i saw today was a sociopath with no regrets" fuckstick reporters always making about them and their make believe integrity and then turn around and print shit they don't know dick about (steroids) and things from anonymous sources.
Lance was pretty stand up in he didn't point the finger at everyone else and use the level playing field argument, which is the truth and I personally would have been fine with it.
I think he made a mistake, he doesn't owe anyone anything.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21066354
The tens of millions watching saw Armstrong reveal:
•he took performance-enhancing drugs in each of his Tour wins from 1999-2005
•doping was "part of the process required to win the Tour"
•he did not feel he was cheating at the time and viewed it as a "level playing field"
•he did not fear getting caught
•"all the fault and blame" should lie with him
•he was a bully who "turned on" people he did not like
•his cancer fight in the mid-1990s gave him a "win-at-all costs" attitude
•he would now co-operate with official inquiries into doping in cycling.
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WOW i did not expect that from you, great post. :)
Thanks my friend, you have some gems yourself buddy.
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I was watching Espn, they mentioned he had 2 attorneys with him, Crisis manager and a host of PR reps, every word he said was calculated and methodically worded to a T.
Once again i have no clue why is this even a big issue, im in Australia, someone gets caught lying or steroids or whatever, they lose there job, thats it. In America you need to face Congress, go on some fat fucks show (didnt this bitch retire) and be dragged through hell, his lucky Superbowl is on soon and America is very forgetful.
I see people with cancer crying cause they feel they have been duped, fucken idiots, people idolize people just because they are on TV. They have Cancer and there biggest problem is lance, just die already. I support Lance, he did what he had to, i dont know why he admitted to it though, he must have a ace up his sleeve.
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I was watching Espn, they mentioned he had 2 attorneys with him, Crisis manager and a host of PR reps, every word he said was calculated and methodically worded to a T.
Once again i have no clue why is this even a big issue, im in Australia, someone gets caught lying or steroids or whatever, they lose there job, thats it. In America you need to face Congress, go on some fat fucks show (didnt this bitch retire) and be dragged through hell, his lucky Superbowl is on soon and America is very forgetful.
I see people with cancer crying cause they feel they have been duped, fucken idiots, people idolize people just because they are on TV. They have Cancer and there biggest problem is lance, just die already. I support Lance, he did what he had to, i dont know why he admitted to it though, he must have a ace up his sleeve.
Pretty sure you have a swimmer who failed a drug test, retired before it came out then tried to sue the French newspaper who said he failed the test.
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Pretty sure you have a swimmer who failed a drug test, retired before it came out then tried to sue the French newspaper who said he failed the test.
Ian Thorpe, still a hero till this day, the media black it out, how dare you say a australian athlete took PED's. We need heroes.
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Lance is a LEGEND, he doesn't regret doping, he WON 7 Tour de Frances, if he had never doped he would just be another cycling nobody that no-one had ever heard of. Ever heard of Ben Johnson, nobody would have heard of him if he hadn't taken PED's. The only option an athlete has today is to take PED's, no point playing otherwise.
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when they start dope testing the nfl 100%, then i'll pay attention to these stories. anyway at least lance gets to keep his millions. fuck the trophies and t-shirts.
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He's got real ball to come clean.
I dont think so, i think he really believes people are going to be nice to him etc, but in fact he s a sociopath he just wants to know how far he can go, just like with cycling, he s oblivious to the fact prolly nobody will ever give him the time of the day as from now.
He s prolly right, assholes just like him wont care, but honnest people are done with him once and for all. He basically kiled himself live on tv. This is positive tho, it s a good step in the right direction for mankind. For him as an individual? not so sure. I was surprised, at how lost he looked. He was forced by others to say the truth, he didnt choose to, for someone who s used to control everything like him, must be quite devastating.
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"I have always tried to be an honest sportsman." -Eddy Merckx
"Tried" is the keyword here :-\
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I found the bio-passport results interesting, considering his strongly voiced protest that he didn't dope in 2009 and 2010.
Could it be that he's just a genetic freak? And he doped too, making him the GOAT?
The people who cry foul or act shocked or call for his head are downright disappointments to the human race for lacking the critical thinking skills needed to stay alive. They shouldn't decry Lance...they should thank an altruistic world that allows them to live with sub-normal intelligence. 10000 years ago these same idiots would be the ones who walk into a saber-toothed tiger's den whistling Dixie. Now they can live and permeate the airwaves with their droning drivel.
Lance is a cycling god and wasn't using anything anyone wasn't (or wouldn't, if they could). He's a paid entertainer, and is there for one purpose: to entertain people with his athletic skill. One shouldn't care how he does it, or why...one should just marvel at the exploits. And be smart and strong enough as a parent to explain to the kids that "yes, isn't it amazing. By the way, you have to use a ton of drugs with a whole bunch of needles and might shorten your life to do that Junior...".
But no one wants to parent anymore. No one wants to think anymore. The nanny-state is enabled by idiots who want the media and sports to put forward only stalwarts and bastions of goodness and the American way. I'd rather see the truth. Not as some media or sporting agency wants me to see it, but as it really is. I suppose that's too much to ask.
Lance just did it better. We should celebrate his ability to succeed and win at all costs.
I can't believe people get so upset about this stuff. Hasn't anyone learned that putting a professional entertainer (that's what he is) up on a pedastal is a shaky idea?
Good lord, the slack-jawed mouth-breathing unthinking sheeple out there really do scare me sometimes.
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Ben Johnson finally vindicated! Next on the hit list... wait for it.... Michael Phelps... BOOM!!
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Ben Johnson finally vindicated! Next on the hit list... wait for it.... Michael Phelps... BOOM!!
Should be Carl Lewis
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Oprah should have asked him:
" do you have a gimmick account on Getbig"
lance: yes
"would you love to meet tbombz?"
lance: yes
"have you ever had a deep tissue massage by way of male meat sword"
lance: yes
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Oprah should have asked him:
" do you have a gimmick account on Getbig"
lance: yes
"would you love to meet tbombz?"
lance: yes
"have you ever had a deep tissue massage by way of male meat sword"
lance: yes
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There is a PART 2 tonight
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There is a PART 2 tonight
Oprah should have shut the fuck up at times cutting him off when he was able to say some shit. Her first question should have been "why are you here, what are you trying to get out of this"?
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Ben Johnson finally vindicated! Next on the hit list... wait for it.... Michael Phelps... BOOM!!
then the chicken nugget eating Jamaican........... when will people ever learn!!!
i love how all the brit medal winner cyclists have crawled out the woodwork to downplay drug use, then fail to mention that every single rider in the top ten of the toure de france have sice failed or been implicated
cycling is right up there with bodybuilding to be totaly drug dependant
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I like that he didn't...On ESPN some reporter was crying..."he lied to my face, and i lied to my readers, what i saw today was a sociopath with no regrets" fuckstick reporters always making about them and their make believe integrity and then turn around and print shit they don't know dick about (steroids) and things from anonymous sources.
Lance was pretty stand up in he didn't point the finger at everyone else and use the level playing field argument, which is the truth and I personally would have been fine with it.
I think he made a mistake, he doesn't owe anyone anything.
I agree...I have more respect for Lance today just for the simple fact that he didn't pull a Tiger Woods and try to tear up and hug his mom in front of reporters. Lance basically just admitted it but was telling everyone that this is the way the world of cycling is.
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Thought it was awesome when he said he didn't consider it cheating. Basically telling the tub of goo that how can it be cheating when EVERYONE is doing the same shit.
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I like that he didn't...On ESPN some reporter was crying..."he lied to my face, and i lied to my readers, what i saw today was a sociopath with no regrets" fuckstick reporters always making about them and their make believe integrity and then turn around and print shit they don't know dick about (steroids) and things from anonymous sources.
Lance was pretty stand up in he didn't point the finger at everyone else and use the level playing field argument, which is the truth and I personally would have been fine with it.
I think he made a mistake, he doesn't owe anyone anything.
A mistake? Really? ::) A mistake that went on in excess of 13 years. oy ::) That arrogant prick ruined countless careers and reputations with his denials and lawsuits. And he doesn't doesn't owe anyone anything? Right.
He also admitted to mistreating people as he tried to preserve the cover-up.
"Yeah, I was a bully," Armstrong said.
Not only did he attack those who told the truth about him, he sued them when they did. At one point, when Winfrey asked him if he had sued Emma O'Reilly, a former team masseuse who told of his doping, Armstrong wasn't sure. "To be honest, Oprah, we sued so many people," he said.
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then the chicken nugget eating Jamaican........... when will people ever learn!!!
i love how all the brit medal winner cyclists have crawled out the woodwork to downplay drug use, then fail to mention that every single rider in the top ten of the toure de france have sice failed or been implicated
cycling is right up there with bodybuilding to be totaly drug dependant
Within two years we will be hearing about the Usain Bolt PED scandal.
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Thought it was awesome when he said he didn't consider it cheating. Basically telling the tub of goo that how can it be cheating when EVERYONE is doing the same shit.
If everybody cheats suddenly it becomes not cheating??? Cheating is still cheating no matter how many (whether it is one or all) are doing it.
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There were actually people on this site who said he was clean. lol...So many people's view on the world came crashing down today. Armstrong was a stone cold sociopath in the Oprah interview. He didn't even try to tear up or anything.
He shouldn't. The man did nothing wrong. For the record i always knew he was cheating. We all are to some extent.
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We all are to some extent.
Is the guy who has access to better nutrition and training facilities cheating on the guys who dont?
Surely all those things give him an edge over the competition.
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If everybody cheats suddenly it becomes not cheating??? Cheating is still cheating no matter how many (whether it is one or all) are doing it.
X2
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Phelps, Bolt, ALL Use PED
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in the end it leaves no real winners in any sport if 9o pct use ....placing 30th with say 29 drug users ahead of u and ur clean means nothing,,,,,
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Thought it was awesome when he said he didn't consider it cheating. Basically telling the tub of goo that how can it be cheating when EVERYONE is doing the same shit.
hahahahahaha ;D
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Basically telling the black tub of goo
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2nd part now http://ownspecial.oprah.com/lancearmstrong.html
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Oprah should have shut the fuck up at times cutting him off when he was able to say some shit. Her first question should have been "why are you here, what are you trying to get out of this"?
to be honnest, he looks like a little lost kid not knowing wtf he s doing there. She prolly felt he was insecure and treated him like a little bitch.
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to be honnest, he looks like a little lost kid not knowing wtf he s doing there. She prolly felt he was insecure and treated him like a little bitch.
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TA, do you feel Lance is getting a raw deal?
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A mistake? Really? ::) A mistake that went on in excess of 13 years. oy ::) That arrogant prick ruined countless careers and reputations with his denials and lawsuits. An he doesn't doesn't owe anyone anything? Right.
He also admitted to mistreating people as he tried to preserve the cover-up.
"Yeah, I was a bully," Armstrong said.
Not only did he attack those who told the truth about him, he sued them when they did. At one point, when Winfrey asked him if he had sued Emma O'Reilly, a former team masseuse who told of his doping, Armstrong wasn't sure. "To be honest, Oprah, we sued so many people," he said.
This is the despicable part. Who cares about the actual doping.
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This is the despicable part. Who cares about the actual doping.
I care about the actual doping. I care about fucks like armstrong who, all together, perpetuate the idea that you can obtain superhuman results with just "hard work and determination".
Of course we're all older and wiser here on getbig ::), but once upon a time I'm pretty sure most of us (along with most of everyone else) thought they could get big and strong and look like a million bucks with just a little sweat and blood. Well, that's a load of bullshit. There are a million factors involved, the least of which is one's willingness to work to achieve their goals. Anyone who routinely goes to the gym for years on end has sufficient willingness, and yet most who do still look like shit. I'd be willing to bet most of them also actually believe the reason they look like shit is because they haven't got their training right, or their diet, or this or that... because of jackasses like armstrong, skip lacour, kiyoshi moody, CT Fletcher, and so on... the list is so staggeringly long, it practically involves everyone who performs at a high level in any physical activity.
The belief in "hard work" is extremely strong, almost as strong as it is stupid, and needs to die. This can only happen if fucks like Lance get their due.
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I agree ^^^ this video will make you disgusted at ALL sports
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I watched both interview pieces, Lance is still lying.
I am 100 % certain of this.
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I care about the actual doping. I care about fucks like armstrong who, all together, perpetuate the idea that you can obtain superhuman results with just "hard work and determination".
Of course we're all older and wiser here on getbig ::), but once upon a time I'm pretty sure most of us (along with most of everyone else) thought they could get big and strong and look like a million bucks with just a little sweat and blood. Well, that's a load of bullshit. There are a million factors involved, the least of which is one's willingness to work to achieve their goals. Anyone who routinely goes to the gym for years on end has sufficient willingness, and yet most who do still look like shit. I'd be willing to bet most of them also actually believe the reason they look like shit is because they haven't got their training right, or their diet, or this or that... because of jackasses like armstrong, skip lacour, kiyoshi moody, CT Fletcher, and so on... the list is so staggeringly long, it practically involves everyone who performs at a high level in any physical activity.
The belief in "hard work" is extremely strong, almost as strong as it is stupid, and needs to die. This can only happen if fucks like Lance get their due.
There are probably only six or eight guys that can win the Tour de France and all are taking the same shit. Lance's shit wasn't any better than anyone else's, he just outworked everyone else and wanted it more and was willing to endure more pain. Pick any strength or endurance sport and this applies to everyone who stands on the podium.
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There are probably only six or eight guys that can win the Tour de France and all are taking the same shit. Lance's shit wasn't any better than anyone else's, he just outworked everyone else and wanted it more and was willing to endure more pain. Pick any strength or endurance sport and this applies to everyone who stands on the podium.
We have a winner. Absolutely correct.
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There are probably only six or eight guys that can win the Tour de France and all are taking the same shit. Lance's shit wasn't any better than anyone else's, he just outworked everyone else and wanted it more and was willing to endure more pain. Pick any strength or endurance sport and this applies to everyone who stands on the podium.
this whole paragraph has absolutely NOTHING to do with what i wrote. i couldn't care less about who "won" some shitty cycling competition. if it were up to me, all PED would be completely legal in every country and sporting organization. the only thing i'm talking about is the false ideas these scammers promote in place of the truth -- PED + natural ability are the critical factors that are not spoken of, NOT protein powders and rep schemes. Over and over and over kids hear "train hard, eat right" when in most cases they are training plenty hard, and eating just fine... conveniently lance and friends forgot to tell them about the grams of shit you have to inject and the fact that not everyone is born a special little snowflake.
The bolded part shows you have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about. Lance won because he "endured more pain" than everyone else... ahahahahahahahah christian thinking at its finest. If you think for one second that runners up 2-10 lost to lance because they lacked the willpower to "fight through the pain", you are delusional beyond belief.
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this whole paragraph has absolutely NOTHING to do with what i wrote. i couldn't care less about who "won" some shitty cycling competition. if it were up to me, all PED would be completely legal in every country and sporting organization. the only thing i'm talking about is the false ideas these scammers promote in place of the truth -- PED + natural ability are the critical factors that are not spoken of, NOT protein powders and rep schemes. Over and over and over kids hear "train hard, eat right" when in most cases they are training plenty hard, and eating just fine... conveniently lance and friends forgot to tell them about the grams of shit you have to inject and the fact that not everyone is born a special little snowflake.
The bolded part shows you have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about. Lance won because he "endured more pain" than everyone else... ahahahahahahahah christian thinking at its finest. If you think for one second that runners up 2-10 lost to lance because they lacked the willpower to "fight through the pain", you are delusional beyond belief.
We are also told you can do anything, women can do what men can do, Black men can do what White men can do, and this is proven false (100 metre sprints). They don't promote anything, they go as hard as they can then make a decision if they want to keep going or give up. They can't say they juice, Lance didn't create the world full of dumbshits, he just played the game.
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this whole paragraph has absolutely NOTHING to do with what i wrote. i couldn't care less about who "won" some shitty cycling competition. if it were up to me, all PED would be completely legal in every country and sporting organization. the only thing i'm talking about is the false ideas these scammers promote in place of the truth -- PED + natural ability are the critical factors that are not spoken of, NOT protein powders and rep schemes. Over and over and over kids hear "train hard, eat right" when in most cases they are training plenty hard, and eating just fine... conveniently lance and friends forgot to tell them about the grams of shit you have to inject and the fact that not everyone is born a special little snowflake.
The bolded part shows you have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about. Lance won because he "endured more pain" than everyone else... ahahahahahahahah christian thinking at its finest. If you think for one second that runners up 2-10 lost to lance because they lacked the willpower to "fight through the pain", you are delusional beyond belief.
So you want to tell kids they have to juice right from the start if they want to make it big? Yeah okay, why not tell them that Santa Claus is a lie when they are six years old.
Why do you think Ronnie was the GOAT? Watch his training sessions and compare them to Dillets. Now you know what hard work means.
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So you want to tell kids they have to juice right from the start if they want to make it big? Yeah okay, why not tell them that Santa Claus is a lie when they are six years old.
Better to not tell kids their is a SANTA in the first place. Have you ever questioned WHY people do this?
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what does oprah have to do with professional cycling and WADA?
i dont get the connection
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So you want to tell kids they have to juice right from the start if they want to make it big? Yeah okay, why not tell them that Santa Claus is a lie when they are six years old.
Why do you think Ronnie was the GOAT? Watch his training sessions and compare them to Dillets. Now you know what hard work means.
And yet Dillet was a better bodybuilder than other hundreds of thousands that worked their butts off. How does that compute?
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The truly shitty thing Armstrong did was viciously go after and sue people who were right about his doping. He didn't just wave their statements off, he went after them with in court with gusto and in most cases won.
There was a nursing couple in a hospital that talked about the drug usage they heard Lance confessing to a doctor. They were fired, sued and found it difficult to find work. Scumbag move x 100!
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And yet Dillet was a better bodybuilder than other hundreds of thousands that worked their butts off. How does that compute?
Dillet never won anything that matters, although I wouldn't mind having his pyhsique (white version) ;D
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Better to not tell kids their is a SANTA in the first place. Have you ever questioned WHY people do this?
World economy would collapse without Christmas. ;D
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Dillet never won anything that matters, although I wouldn't mind having his pyhsique (white version) ;D
I wouldn't mind having her, physique and all. ;D
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And yet Dillet was a better bodybuilder than other hundreds of thousands that worked their butts off. How does that compute?
You are missing his point. He chose 2 guys with pretty even genetics and one guy got more cause of work ethics. Or put it this way if 2 people have even genetics and have the same stats and are juiced to gills, basically all things being even then the one who works harder will get slightly better results.
What Orion is trying to say is that everyone is juiced at the top of any field and everyone has amazing genetics at the top of every field, in fact it is pretty even up there among the top guys so workload and discipline will make a difference. We know this to be true cause often when you see a guy that is placing well in any particular field and then has a bad year, slips several places, obviously he did not slip a few placings due to taking less juice. He slipped because he slacked off.
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The truly shitty thing Armstrong did was viciously go after and sue people who were right about his doping. He didn't just wave their statements off, he went after them with in court with gusto and in most cases won.
There was a nursing couple in a hospital that talked about the drug usage they heard Lance confessing to a doctor. They were fired, sued and found it difficult to find work. Scumbag move x 100!
Yes 100% agree. Fuck he is still a hero ped or not, who cares, he did not do anything different then any other cyclist but he is a piece of shit for suing people. He should have just ignored them, so I disagree with you Rome about sumbag move x100, more like scumbag move x 1 000 000 :D
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Yeah okay, why not tell them that Santa Claus is a lie when they are six years old.
Better to not tell kids their is a SANTA in the first place. Have you ever questioned WHY people do this?
World economy would collapse without Christmas. ;D
The whole SANTA thing is a can of worms, but essentially their are ways to promote generosity without deceiving Children. It has been shown that children become more deceitful once they discover they have been duped by their parents and the rest of society. This is a morally questionable behaviour by the people entrusted to raise and help guide a child to become an ethical human being.
Notice that the deceit about Santa Claus is part of a larger pattern: the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, being the two main other culprits. Together with these other incidents, the child is likely to draw the inference that lying is thought to be permissible in many cases beyond the Santa Claus situation. The safe option is to not lie about Santa Claus. Not lying to the child about something has no tendency to encourage the child to lie in areas beyond the mere Santa Claus case. Inviting the child to pretend there is a Santa Claus involves no element of deceit whatsoever. It therefore has no danger of leading the child to lie more.
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If everybody cheats suddenly it becomes not cheating??? Cheating is still cheating no matter how many (whether it is one or all) are doing it.
I see your point...The baseball Hall of Fame is keeping people out who used steroids...They call it cheating...However, almost everyone in the baseball hall of fame are cheaters themselves by today's standards because of all the speed/coke etc they used. Let alone how almost all the power hitters used illegal corked bats. Point being, everyone in professional sports looks for a competitive edge.
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You are missing his point. He chose 2 guys with pretty even genetics and one guy got more cause of work ethics. Or put it this way if 2 people have even genetics and have the same stats and are juiced to gills, basically all things being even then the one who works harder will get slightly better results.
What Orion is trying to say is that everyone is juiced at the top of any field and everyone has amazing genetics at the top of every field, in fact it is pretty even up there among the top guys so workload and discipline will make a difference. We know this to be true cause often when you see a guy that is placing well in any particular field and then has a bad year, slips several places, obviously he did not slip a few placings due to taking less juice. He slipped because he slacked off.
Yes, what I meant to say, Thanx
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you can workout like a madman for 10 years straight in the prime of your life
without peds you will hardly look like anything
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you can workout like a madman for 10 years straight in the prime of your life
without peds you will hardly look like anything
Yes, and the Weiders will continue to publish magazines that tell unwary 15 year olds that if they spend their allowance money on the newest Weider snake oil, they will look like Mr. Olympia if they just "work" hard enough.
Despicable lying thieves.
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Yes, and the Weiders will continue to publish magazines that tell unwary 15 year olds that if they spend their allowance money on the newest Weider snake oil, they will look like Mr. Olympia if they just "work" hard enough.
Despicable lying thieves.
the worst is they will say "sure you will not be ronnie coleman, but anyone can be 200lbs of solid muscle"
because it sounds reasonable to joe average it's a very powerful lie
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the worst is they will say "sure you will not be ronnie coleman, but anyone can be 200lbs of solid muscle"
because it sounds reasonable to joe average it's a very powerful lie
Bodybuilding contests are they only circuses in the world where the performers die, go to jail, or go broke paying to perform.
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Bodybuilding contests are they only circuses in the world where the performers die, go to jail, or go broke paying to perform.
google death tour de france riders, that droped of the bike because of to much amphs
start with that simpson guy
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google death tour de france riders, that droped of the bike because of to much amphs
start with that simpson guy
It's just as dangerous for the spectators!
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lance = america ,., a big, one ball , filhty lie.. (marion jones, balco, phelps, nba, nfl, baseball shit, obama&osama,)
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lance = america ,., a big, one ball , filhty lie.. (marion jones, balco, phelps, nba, nfl, baseball shit, obama&osama,)
one ball that's twice the size of both of yours though, bro.
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We are also told you can do anything, women can do what men can do, Black men can do what White men can do, and this is proven false (100 metre sprints). They don't promote anything, they go as hard as they can then make a decision if they want to keep going or give up. They can't say they juice, Lance didn't create the world full of dumbshits, he just played the game.
Humans are hypocrits, they constantly pretend they are fair and "better" than animals, when they re just animals who are conscious of being animals ... but pretend not to be. Fact is our subconscious is a bunch of animal preprogrammations we do not even choose. And we re all led by our subconscious in the race for survival.
The point of life is to eat or be eaten until you can reproduce, then teach your strategies of survival to your offspring. Successfuly surviving and dominating others make you feel good, failing to do so makes you feel bad. And whatever our skin color we re all wired the same way, and there will be wars on earth as long as people will be different, unequal. The irony is that life constantly generates inequality. We all pretend to not understand that, and we all do our best to keep our minds focused on things that will insure our survival -always at the expense of someone else survival-.
Armstrong felt the need to tell the truth because he wanted more attention and prolly wants to sell some shit afterawrds, or get a position as a host on tv or whatever. He incarnates everything that is deeply wrong with our inner bestiality coming to the surface. The irony is most people will despise him now he spilled the beans , while they were acclaiming him when he was BEATING the competition, which actually made them feel good, sititng behind their TV. Complete hypocrisy.
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Humans are hypocrits, they constantly pretend they are fair and "better" than animals, when they re just animals who are conscious of being animals ... but pretend not to be. Fact is our subconscious is a bunch of animal preprogrammations we do not even choose. And we re all led by our subconscious in the race for survival.
The point of life is to eat or be eaten until you can reproduce, then teach your strategies of survival to your offspring. Successfuly surviving and dominating others make you feel good, failing to do so makes you feel bad. And whatever our skin color we re all wired the same way, and there will be wars on earth as long as people will be different, unequal. The irony is that life constantly generates inequality. We all pretend to not understand that, and we all do our best to keep our minds focused on things that will insure our survival -always at the expense of someone else survival-.
Armstrong felt the need to tell the truth because he wanted more attention and prolly wants to sell some shit afterawrds, or get a position as a host on tv or whatever. He incarnates everything that is deeply wrong with our inner bestiality coming to the surface. The irony is most people will despise him now he spilled the beans , while they were acclaiming him when he was BEATING the competition, which actually made them feel good, sititng behind their TV. Complete hypocrisy.
Uberman, when is your book coming out?
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Uberman, when is your book coming out?
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He ruined so many people.
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you can workout like a madman for 10 years straight in the prime of your life
without peds you will hardly look like anything
Not true, I did just that, didn't touch the juice till my late twenties. Everyone could tell I lifted.
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He ruined so many people.
Uberman? Yes, I agree.
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He ruined so many people.
If he committed perjury his ass could end up in jail
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I hope he does go to federal prison.
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I hope he does go to federal prison.
dont think he will. was listening to the radio and there is a time limit regarding something about when he doped. Like a statute of limitation or something.
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When is the class action lawsuit against NIkE going to go down for those $2 livestrong bracelet ??? Livestrong on HGH , test, and blood transfusions
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They are going to sue Nike? Damn.
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Humans are hypocrits, they constantly pretend they are fair and "better" than animals, when they re just animals who are conscious of being animals ... but pretend not to be. Fact is our subconscious is a bunch of animal preprogrammations we do not even choose. And we re all led by our subconscious in the race for survival.
The point of life is to eat or be eaten until you can reproduce, then teach your strategies of survival to your offspring. Successfuly surviving and dominating others make you feel good, failing to do so makes you feel bad. And whatever our skin color we re all wired the same way, and there will be wars on earth as long as people will be different, unequal. The irony is that life constantly generates inequality. We all pretend to not understand that, and we all do our best to keep our minds focused on things that will insure our survival -always at the expense of someone else survival-.
Armstrong felt the need to tell the truth because he wanted more attention and prolly wants to sell some shit afterawrds, or get a position as a host on tv or whatever. He incarnates everything that is deeply wrong with our inner bestiality coming to the surface. The irony is most people will despise him now he spilled the beans , while they were acclaiming him when he was BEATING the competition, which actually made them feel good, sititng behind their TV. Complete hypocrisy.
Do you honestly think anyone gives a shit what your opinion is?
How fucking long do you spend typing up that childish drivel?
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Not true, I did just that, didn't touch the juice till my late twenties. Everyone could tell I lifted.
Same, the guy is just looking for excuses.
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When is OPRAH going to tell the TRUTH about her homosexuality! FAT HYPOCRITE, always lecturing about honesty while living a LIE!
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Yes, and the Weiders will continue to publish magazines that tell unwary 15 year olds that if they spend their allowance money on the newest Weider snake oil, they will look like Mr. Olympia if they just "work" hard enough.
Despicable lying thieves.
It's called advertising. I started using Axe body wash a few months ago hoping the babes would be all over me just like they say, hey, it's right on the label, so it has to be true, right? Hasn't quite panned out that way, maybe I'm not using it right. ;D
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This is a great picture.
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drugs or not, he still had to work his ass off to achieve what he did, so PROPS to him
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ok, oprah is a disgusting swine.
lance is a legend , he said he still feels like the winner, for everyone was doped.very good.
would you show your abs to Lance?
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would you show your abs to Lance?
Maybe if he shows his 'lance' first?
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It's called advertising. I started using Axe body wash a few months ago hoping the babes would be all over me just like they say, hey, it's right on the label, so it has to be true, right? Hasn't quite panned out that way, maybe I'm not using it right. ;D
Actually it's called false advertising.
No one ever died or melted their internal organs using Axe body spray
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Actually it's called false advertising.
No one ever died or melted their internal organs using Axe body spray
I take it from your screen name you ride? I personally know four guys who have been royally fucked up riding. One of the reasons I stopped. Don't know anyone who got fucked up bodybuilding. Whatever floats your boat.
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I hope he does go to federal prison.
I hope he doesn't. There they strip you naked amongst inflicting other humiliations on you. A legend like Lance doesn't deserve that sort of barbaric treatment.
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I hope he doesn't. There they strip you naked amongst inflicting other humiliations on you. A legend like Lance doesn't deserve that sort of barbaric treatment.
Lance never lied in front of congress, so he is safe.
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I take it from your screen name you ride? I personally know four guys who have been royally fucked up riding. One of the reasons I stopped. Don't know anyone who got fucked up bodybuilding. Whatever floats your boat.
I'm struggling to think of any long term competitive bodybuilder that left the "sport" healthy.
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I'm struggling to think of any long term competitive bodybuilder that left the "sport" healthy.
Arnold did okay. Franco, Chris Dickerson (he is an opera singer, believe it or not) Banout, Clairmont, Platz, just a few off the top of my head. Sure guys like Dorian and Ronnie may have gotten fucked up but a lot less severve than most NFL players.
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This is a great picture.
Ya cause there is .7 of a cc of air in the syringe.
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they won't give baseball players, track athletes and cyclist a break, but turn a blind eye to the JUICED UP national felon league, which would look like Div II football, if they instituted olympic style drug testing.
Go Lance!
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Why would be to to jail?
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From a legal prospective, Lance coming clean was a terrible decision. He's now going to be sued into the Stone age.
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no pro athlete including Lance can cheat on their own. the entire administration has to be in on it and allow it. he was given clearance to dope because he was a good image for the sport. now, he must have stopped following the agenda and pissed someone off.
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drugs or not, he still had to work his ass ball off to achieve what he did, so PROPS to him
fixed
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When is OPRAH going to tell the TRUTH about her homosexuality! FAT HYPOCRITE, always lecturing about honesty while living a LIE!
So true...
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From a legal prospective, Lance coming clean was a terrible decision. He's now going to be sued into the Stone age.
Good! He ruined many peoples lives by suing them to bankruptcy.
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no pro athlete including Lance can cheat on their own. the entire administration has to be in on it and allow it. he was given clearance to dope because he was a good image for the sport. now, he must have stopped following the agenda and pissed someone off.
He had Dr. Michele Ferrari.
A doctor who was banned by UCI. Check it out.
Anyone with a brain could connect the dots years ago.
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hazbin, check this out: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/more/news/20130118/lance-armstrong-admission-kathy-lemond-reaction/
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I have ALWAYS said Doctor Ferrari. ALWAYS.
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He lied for years. So now he's telling the truth?
Who gives a shit, really?
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A mistake? Really? ::) A mistake that went on in excess of 13 years. oy ::) That arrogant prick ruined countless careers and reputations with his denials and lawsuits. And he doesn't doesn't owe anyone anything? Right.
He also admitted to mistreating people as he tried to preserve the cover-up.
"Yeah, I was a bully," Armstrong said.
Not only did he attack those who told the truth about him, he sued them when they did. At one point, when Winfrey asked him if he had sued Emma O'Reilly, a former team masseuse who told of his doping, Armstrong wasn't sure. "To be honest, Oprah, we sued so many people," he said.
Yup - guy is obviously an asshole.
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Fiction :D
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Humans are hypocrits, they constantly pretend they are fair and "better" than animals, when they re just animals who are conscious of being animals ... but pretend not to be. Fact is our subconscious is a bunch of animal preprogrammations we do not even choose. And we re all led by our subconscious in the race for survival.
The point of life is to eat or be eaten until you can reproduce, then teach your strategies of survival to your offspring. Successfuly surviving and dominating others make you feel good, failing to do so makes you feel bad. And whatever our skin color we re all wired the same way, and there will be wars on earth as long as people will be different, unequal. The irony is that life constantly generates inequality. We all pretend to not understand that, and we all do our best to keep our minds focused on things that will insure our survival -always at the expense of someone else survival-.
Armstrong felt the need to tell the truth because he wanted more attention and prolly wants to sell some shit afterawrds, or get a position as a host on tv or whatever. He incarnates everything that is deeply wrong with our inner bestiality coming to the surface. The irony is most people will despise him now he spilled the beans , while they were acclaiming him when he was BEATING the competition, which actually made them feel good, sititng behind their TV. Complete hypocrisy.
great post
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So you want to tell kids they have to juice right from the start if they want to make it big? Yeah okay, why not tell them that Santa Claus is a lie when they are six years old.
YES, WHY THE HELL NOT?
Why do you think Ronnie was the GOAT? Watch his training sessions and compare them to Dillets. Now you know what hard work means.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH this could not be more ironic. Ronnie and Dillet are perfect examples to prove MY point. Dillet had a shitty back and couldn't pose, THAT's why he lost to Ronnie... WTF did either of these things have to do with what he did in the gym? NOTHING!!!! Hard work had LESS THAN NOTHING to do with the separation between these two.
Do you not think Dillet trained his back as "hard" as he did his arms, delts, or quads... all of which were FUCKING RIDICULOUS and in the all-time-best-of short list? Do you think he could somehow manage to starve and dehydrate himself to the point of near-death and even petrification, but somehow lack the willpower to yell out a few "light weights" and do an 800 lb deadlift or two?
The fact is, we're born, we lift weights, we eat, we inject drugs, and then we pray for the best. What goes on "underneath the hood" is pretty much a complete mystery at this point in time. For Dillet, it was the luck of the draw: weak back and little body control. Oh well, we can't all be Big Ron. Except WE CAN all train like him, it's EASY to be an animal in the gym. All you have to do is believe it will give you huge muscles. I see it all the time, and you can too: just look in any gym in America. There's this guy who trains in my gym, lanky-ass arms and a monstrous barrel torso. Natural, and absolutely 0 bodybuilding potential. Think Dan Hill's arms and Gutler's waist. And yet you can see him, day in, day out slaving away, pounding HEAVY weights for hours, with his "ANIMAL" shirt.
Why does he do it? Can't he see he was born with absolutely fuck-all in the "gene" department? That the pounds he's been packing on have been going straight to his obliques, not his 16.5 inch pipe cleaners (which haven't budged the tape in years)?
Maybe it's because everyone and their mother has been shouting "HARD WORK MAKES CHAMPIONS", "GO BIG OR GO HOME", "LIGHT WEIGHT BUDDDDDDYYYYY" down his ear since birth? Meanwhile Hannibal for King is off playing on the monkey bars with his "all-natural" 19 in arms, ripped to the bone on KFC and weed.
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YES, WHY THE HELL NOT?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH this could not be more ironic. Ronnie and Dillet are perfect examples to prove MY point. Dillet had a shitty back and couldn't pose, THAT's why he lost to Ronnie... WTF did either of these things have to do with what he did in the gym? NOTHING!!!! Hard work had LESS THAN NOTHING to do with the separation between these two.
Do you not think Dillet trained his back as "hard" as he did his arms, delts, or quads... all of which were FUCKING RIDICULOUS and in the all-time-best-of short list? Do you think he could somehow manage to starve and dehydrate himself to the point of near-death and even petrification, but somehow lack the willpower to yell out a few "light weights" and do an 800 lb deadlift or two?
The fact is, we're born, we lift weights, we eat, we inject drugs, and then we pray for the best. What goes on "underneath the hood" is pretty much a complete mystery at this point in time.
EXACTLY x100000000
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Why does he do it? Can't he see he was born with absolutely fuck-all in the "gene" department? That the pounds he's been packing on have been going straight to his obliques, not his 16.5 inch pipe cleaners (which haven't budged the tape in years)?
Maybe it's because everyone and their mother has been shouting "HARD WORK MAKES CHAMPIONS", "GO BIG OR GO HOME", "LIGHT WEIGHT BUDDDDDDYYYYY" down his ear since birth? Meanwhile Hannibal for King is off playing on the monkey bars with his "all-natural" 19 in arms, ripped to the bone on KFC and weed.
2000 mg of pure, pharma-grade truth...
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Good! He ruined many peoples lives by suing them to bankruptcy.
He may of damaged reputations of those who tried to attack him, but to my knowledge, he didn't win a single lawsuit that caused the defendant to become bankrupt.
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I have ALWAYS said Doctor Ferrari. ALWAYS.
Because you are intelligent.
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The ongoing joke in my cycling world was always, "if you want to be a climber, all you have to do is climb 8 steps up to Dr Ferraris office"...
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Bruine boterhammen met ouwe kaas, daar win je de toer mee. Net als Joop in 1980.
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it was the dutch who invented/started blood doping
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I realised santa doesnt exist at 4 I guess, I have no conscious memory of believing santa despite having memories of xmass from the past.
I realised god is BS at 10.
Some people just feel the need to believe in grand delusion. They are communists, catholics, gh15 followers, preachers of clean sport...
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I realised santa doesnt exist at 4 I guess, I have no conscious memory of believing santa despite having memories of xmass from the past.
I realised god is BS at 10.
Some people just feel the need to believe in grand delusion. They are communists, catholics, gh15 followers, preachers of clean sport...
Let me guess, it's because you're so intelligent?
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I realised santa doesnt exist at 4 I guess, I have no conscious memory of believing santa despite having memories of xmass from the past.
I realised god is BS at 10.
Some people just feel the need to believe in grand delusion. They are communists, catholics, gh15 followers, preachers of clean sport...
God is not BS; God created all things including you.
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God is not BS; God created all things including you.
true, but he doesn't care about you, harijan.
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true, but he doesn't care about you, harijan.
Of course He does. He cares about and loves everyone for God is love. :)
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Let me guess, it's because you're so intelligent?
He's always got to relate the topic to himself, somehow. Preferably in a manner that makes him look good.
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He's always got to relate the topic to himself, somehow. Preferably in a manner that makes him look good.
Be careful what you say, Pavel here is a member of a satanic church, he will gather with his friends in a semi-circle, light a candle and put a satanic hex on you
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Let me guess, it's because you're so intelligent?
;D
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YES, WHY THE HELL NOT?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH this could not be more ironic. Ronnie and Dillet are perfect examples to prove MY point. Dillet had a shitty back and couldn't pose, THAT's why he lost to Ronnie... WTF did either of these things have to do with what he did in the gym? NOTHING!!!! Hard work had LESS THAN NOTHING to do with the separation between these two.
Do you not think Dillet trained his back as "hard" as he did his arms, delts, or quads... all of which were FUCKING RIDICULOUS and in the all-time-best-of short list? Do you think he could somehow manage to starve and dehydrate himself to the point of near-death and even petrification, but somehow lack the willpower to yell out a few "light weights" and do an 800 lb deadlift or two?
The fact is, we're born, we lift weights, we eat, we inject drugs, and then we pray for the best. What goes on "underneath the hood" is pretty much a complete mystery at this point in time. For Dillet, it was the luck of the draw: weak back and little body control. Oh well, we can't all be Big Ron. Except WE CAN all train like him, it's EASY to be an animal in the gym. All you have to do is believe it will give you huge muscles. I see it all the time, and you can too: just look in any gym in America. There's this guy who trains in my gym, lanky-ass arms and a monstrous barrel torso. Natural, and absolutely 0 bodybuilding potential. Think Dan Hill's arms and Gutler's waist. And yet you can see him, day in, day out slaving away, pounding HEAVY weights for hours, with his "ANIMAL" shirt.
Why does he do it? Can't he see he was born with absolutely fuck-all in the "gene" department? That the pounds he's been packing on have been going straight to his obliques, not his 16.5 inch pipe cleaners (which haven't budged the tape in years)?
Maybe it's because everyone and their mother has been shouting "HARD WORK MAKES CHAMPIONS", "GO BIG OR GO HOME", "LIGHT WEIGHT BUDDDDDDYYYYY" down his ear since birth? Meanwhile Hannibal for King is off playing on the monkey bars with his "all-natural" 19 in arms, ripped to the bone on KFC and weed.
So your 14 year old son comes to you and tells you he wants to do track and field. So you say, " Son, pull down your pants, you'll never be any good with out this!" as you pull out a syringe. Do the world a favour and don't reproduce.
As for Ronnie and Dillet, are you trying to tell me that Dillet who was blessed with great arms, and shoulders and legs somehow missed out on the back gene? LOL. Dillet was alright but Ronnie looked like he was carved out of granite. Maybe if Dillet had done the really hard nasty exercdises that no one likes to do like heavy barbell rows and heavy T bar rows and deadlifts then maybe he could have had a back like Ronnie. You ain't going to get a back like Ronnies doing Lat pulldowns!
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Let me guess, it's because you're so intelligent?
Went through school with straight As, through uni with scholarship... Facts speak for themselves.
So your 14 year old son comes to you and tells you he wants to do track and field. So you say, " Son, pull down your pants, you'll never be any good with out this!" as you pull out a syringe. Do the world a favour and don't reproduce.
Some people literally did that, forcing their kids to do many things early in their childhood. Not everyone is meant to excell.
Steroids are nothing compared to what aspiring pianists or figure skaters go through in their childhood.
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Went through school with straight As, through uni with scholarship... Facts speak for themselves.
oh my - i'm calling the nobel prize committees.
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everybody knows he spent half his life on a cycle
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everybody knows he spent half his life on a cycle
8)
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So your 14 year old son comes to you and tells you he wants to do track and field. So you say, " Son, pull down your pants, you'll never be any good with out this!" as you pull out a syringe. Do the world a favour and don't reproduce.
::) I'll tell him to go play with all the other kids and try his best. If he's mediocre and starts exhibiting obsessive, delusional behavior as he desperately tries to claw his way to the top, I'll tell him to calm the hell down -- he's not black, after all.
As for Ronnie and Dillet, are you trying to tell me that Dillet who was blessed with great arms, and shoulders and legs somehow missed out on the back gene? LOL. Dillet was alright but Ronnie looked like he was carved out of granite. Maybe if Dillet had done the really hard nasty exercdises that no one likes to do like heavy barbell rows and heavy T bar rows and deadlifts then maybe he could have had a back like Ronnie. You ain't going to get a back like Ronnies doing Lat pulldowns!
YES, I AM SAYING THAT. FFS, HOW CAN YOU BE SO STUPID? Dillet was one of the absolute top bodybuilders in the world. DO YOU REALLY THINK HE WAS "TOO LAZY" TO DO T-BAR ROWS AND DEADLIFTS? WTF ARE YOU SMOKING? What person in their right mind, being say the #3 or 4 bodybuilder in the world, knowing they had a weak back, wouldn't try everything in the fucking book (AND TEN OTHER BOOKS) to bring it up? "Ahhh... I wanted to be #1 but just couldn't bring myself to do an extremely common exercise that hundreds of thousands of athletes across the country do every day!"
IN WHAT WORLD DOES THIS HAPPEN?
And LOL @ thinking Dillet "somehow missing out on the back gene" is unlikely. I'm not even saying it has anything to do with genetics. Could have been a nerve problem, or any number of things.
Just to show how stupid you sound:
As for Ronnie and Dillet, are you trying to tell me that Ronnie who was blessed with great arms, and shoulders and legs somehow missed out on the calf gene? LOL.
As for Nasser and Dorian, are you trying to tell me that Nasser who was blessed with great arms, and shoulders and legs somehow missed out on the back gene? LOL.
As for Jay and Branch, are you trying to tell me that Branch who was blessed with a great chest, and shoulders and legs somehow missed out on the arms gene? LOL.
I could go on all night... a missing back is one of the most common problems in bodybuilding. I suppose none of these people want to do "hard exercises"?
My back sucks, and I deadlift religiously, t-bar rows, pullups, the whole 9 yards. These are actually my best lifts too.
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Charlie Sheen met Lance Armstrong and says he's "kind of a douche".lol
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/31/charlie-sheen-lance-armstrong-douche-video_n_2588280.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment&
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Sheen rules.
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Charlie Sheen met Lance Armstrong and says he's "kind of a douche".lol
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/31/charlie-sheen-lance-armstrong-douche-video_n_2588280.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment&
ip addresses of everyone who visits the huffington post are logged by the higher archie - you know this and yet you fearlessly go on that website ... interesting.
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;D Excellent.
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Anyone ever read Viz comics? Funniest mag
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http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/aug/25/lance-armstrong-settles-sunday-times (http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/aug/25/lance-armstrong-settles-sunday-times)
Disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong has reached a settlement with the Sunday Times, which he sued for £1m after it published an article suggesting he was using performance-enhancing drugs before his confession.
The multiple winner of the Tour de France admitted last year to doping during his career, revealing his repeated denials were "one big lie".
The American sued the newspaper nine years ago for libel following the article, seeking damages from the chief sports writer David Walsh and deputy sports editor at the time, Alan English.
The Sunday Times was forced to settle the claim in 2006 and agreed to pay Armstrong £300,000, the newspaper reported.
But after his confession the paper launched a high court bid to return the money, plus £720,000 in costs, and has reached a confidential settlement, the newspaper said today.
It said Walsh and English had "reached a mutually acceptable final resolution to all claims against Lance Armstrong related to the 2012 high court proceedings and are entirely happy with the agreed settlement, the terms of the which remain confidential."
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well, at least he's stayed out of trouble since then.
Probably just dating, living the good life, keeping it real.
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Have not heard much from him at all! He probably hangs out somewhere in Europe.
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Tiger Woods showed up at the world ski tour yesterday :D
speaking of athlets that did forbiddens things :D
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well, at least he's stayed out of trouble since then.
Probably just dating, living the good life, keeping it real.
Lance Armstrong hit parked cars
February 4, 2015, 9:57 AM
DENVER -- Disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong hit two parked cars with an SUV after a night of partying in Aspen, Colorado, but agreed to let his longtime girlfriend take the blame to avoid national attention, police reports show.
Police cited Armstrong with failing to report an accident and speeding weeks after the Dec. 28 accident, but only after his girlfriend, Anna Hansen, acknowledged lying for him.
http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/story/_/id/12273382/police-say-lance-armstrong-hit-parked-cars-blamed-girlfriend-anna-hansen
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Oprah is still strikingly beautiful after all these years!
I'd love to be her human "seat cushion", pushing my face into those chocolate buns....
What would really get me screaming like a banshee is if she hadn't "wiped well" that particular day! Woof!
Oprah has been known to frequent Getbig... Holla at me honey.
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THE ARMSTRONG LIE was truly a great doc with a quite a revealing insight into the mind of a egotistical megalomaniac. the web of lies and deceit spun by this man was quite wonderous to behold. the way he'd fuck up anyone that crossed him, including teammates, was without mercy .plus the tour de france footage was stunning in hd. worth watching for that alone if you're a fan of the tour.
full vid here if you don't give two hoots about hd. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1l9v9y_the-armstrong-lie_sport
looks like he's still incapable of telling the truth.. :D
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2938338/Police-Lance-Armstrong-hit-parked-cars-blamed-girlfriend.html
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/02/03/254F854C00000578-2938338-image-a-9_1422992938750.jpg)
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He took what was necessary to win the Tour.
Maybe no more or less than the other cyclists he was competing against.
As for his lying, pretty much forced into that by all the media & ex athletes
Double standards & lying.
He did win 7 tours.!!!
Why the hate for him.
As for the car crash incident possibly he was over the drink drive limit.
Or thought he could avoid all the bad media coverage by getting her to
Take the blame.
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He took what was necessary to win the Tour.
Maybe no more or less than the other cyclists he was competing against.
As for his lying, pretty much forced into that by all the media & ex athletes
Double standards & lying.
He did win 7 tours.!!!
Why the hate for him.
As for the car crash incident possibly he was over the drink drive limit.
Or thought he could avoid all the bad media coverage by getting her to
Take the blame.
If that superior your opponents, he was the best climber, sprinter, timetrial...I pretty much think he had something they didn't! And 7 years in a row...he definitely had some fuel the other didn't have!
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looks like he's still incapable of telling the truth.. :D
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2938338/Police-Lance-Armstrong-hit-parked-cars-blamed-girlfriend.html
It's not about the drive home. ;D
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If that superior your opponents, he was the best climber, sprinter, timetrial...I pretty much think he had something they didn't! And 7 years in a row...he definitely had some fuel the other didn't have!
Possibly he had access to something the others didn't.
Maybe he was the the best cyclist at that time.
As others that have dominated their chosen sport for a number of consecutive years,
There are many examples.
Also he concentrated on the Tour de France above other cycling events.
Although not a distance cyclist myself I respect his achievements.
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DLB should take note and come clean...Can someone email Lance a picture of DLB and get his opinion for the record...
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He took what was necessary to win the Tour.
Maybe no more or less than the other cyclists he was competing against.
That's not true. Read USADA's report on his ass: The guy had the whole system rigged to the point that 1) Lance was actually paying (donating money to the UCI) for the machines that were to test his blood + urine and, 2) he was informed of upcoming tests by the UCI. He literally had Pat McQuaid (president of the UCI at the time) in his payroll.
The guy was "glowing" all through the Tour de France, while the others had to scale back (on PEDs) months in advance of the TdF to make sure they weren't testing positive.
If you read the report you will notice he did everything in his pocket/power to make sure it wasn't a leveled playing field. He would find out about a guy taking x-substance and he will quickly tell the UCI, which will in turn tell WADA, that x-cyclist was taking x-substance. And, SURE FUCKING ENOUGH, WADA would test x-cyclist for x-substance even though it wasn't even on the testing protocol.
Heck, even when handed his ass back he had that Contador guy test positive by ensuring his team gave him something contaminated.
He is a F. R. A. U. D. in every sense of the letter.
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That's not true. Read USADA's report on his ass: The guy had the whole system rigged to the point that 1) He was actually paying (donating) for the machines that were eventually test his blood + urine and, 2) he was informed of upcoming tests by the UCI.
The guy was "glowing" all through the Tour de France, while the others had to scale back (on PEDs) months in advance of the TdF to make sure they weren't testing positive.
Ok. Fair point.
How do we know that other teams & cyclists were not doing the very same things
As Lance to help them.
We Don't.
It's just the USA had a melt down over P.E.D's in sport.
I don't see the Russians, Chinese, East Germans, or other country's having a melt down.
We now have UK team sky dominating the Tour for 2 years, suddenly out of nowhere the
All Natural UK team are the Best.
Yes of course they are totally Natural. ::)
And I have a Bridge to sell You.
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AND, on one of his Road to the Tour shows, while doing a tour of the house he was living in in Spain, a getbig.com friend of mine who was also watching the show actually pointed out that he had a box of Humatrope in his fridge door.
Watch the episode if you don't believe me, it's the one in Gerona in Spain.
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Ok. Fair point.
How do we know that other teams & cyclists were not doing the very same things
As Lance to help them.
We Don't.
It's just the USA had a melt down over P.E.D's in sport.
I don't see the Russians, Chinese, East Germans, or other country's having a melt down.
We now have UK team sky dominating the Tour for 2 years, suddenly out of nowhere the
All Natural UK team are the Best.
Yes of course they are totally Natural. ::)
And I have a Bridge to sell You.
Yes, I totally agree. I mean Sky are such a farce they didn't even hide the fact that they were following the US Postal model. They are juiced to the gills. Their main TdF guy now even dopes during the competition (inhales xenon):
(https://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/06/9g4mr.gif)
But this is the NOW.
Lance re-wrote the book on rigging the system, not just doping.
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Oprah is still strikingly beautiful after all these years!
I'd love to be her human "seat cushion", pushing my face into those chocolate buns....
What would really get me screaming like a banshee is if she hadn't "wiped well" that particular day! Woof!
Oprah has been known to frequent Getbig... Holla at me honey.
WTF's wrong with you? You sick madarfacar...made me puke. :-X
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Yes, I totally agree. I mean Sky are such a farce they didn't even hide the fact that they were following the US Postal model. They are juiced to the gills. Their main TdF guy now even dopes during the competition (inhales xenon):
(https://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/06/9g4mr.gif)
But this is the NOW.
Lance re-wrote the book on rigging the system, not just doping.
Expensive stuff that zenon.
A very Good Addition to other supplements.
Think there will be a lot more to come out about Team Sky.
Maybe not as The team have received various honours & titles
From the UK establishment.
Could be embarrassing for them.
All clean & Natural...Ha ha.
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Expensive stuff that zenon.
A very Good Addition to other supplements.
Think there will be a lot more to come out about Team Sky.
Maybe not as The team have received various honours & titles
From the UK establishment.
Could be embarrassing for them.
All clean & Natural...Ha ha.
as natural as inter-racial marriage
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Yes, I totally agree. I mean Sky are such a farce they didn't even hide the fact that they were following the US Postal model. They are juiced to the gills. Their main TdF guy now even dopes during the competition (inhales xenon):
(https://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/06/9g4mr.gif)
But this is the NOW.
Lance re-wrote the book on rigging the system, not just doping.
Hey slapper - are you an idiot in real life, or do you just play one on the internet?
Froome is pictured using an asthma inhaler. The big deal was he claimed he had a TUE (therapeutic use exemption) but it was given last minute. And Xenon inhalation during the ride? lol - sure Since Xenon doesn't benefit you DURING exertion, you would never do that. Its taken nightly. And of course its banned now, for whatever use that will do.
As for all the other competitors "dialing down" the PED's during the Tour and Lance running full gas - did your mom tell you this? The team used the same protocol for the big tours, and Lance used 1/3 what they did. Yes, i know the full regimen in detail, from the source. Jan Ullrich, Ivan Basso, you name it, used the same stuff. Lance was flat out stronger. His ex teammates will tell you this if you ever been on a training ride with him.
As for Sky being on gas all the time - show us your proof. I mean other than fantasizing while jerking off to Marco Pantani tapes.
Oh and your Contador conspiracy theory, lol. I suppose you also buy Hamilton's bs too
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It's just another big, crooked business... and, LA was the leader of the cycling mafia.
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I'm pretty sure using xenon gas during the race would be like injecting EPO during the race. That's not the way you would use it.
Also, I don't think xenon is a banned substance.
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Hey slapper - are you an idiot in real life, or do you just play one on the internet?
Neither.
Froome is pictured using an asthma inhaler.
What is known about Froome is that, prior to him becoming a superstar overnight, he was never seen puffing away carelessly as he does now. In fact, no one knew about his asthma until he was asked about his constant puffs, and what usually followed, which was a super attack at inhuman wattage.
This is a guy who, back in 2011, was almost thrown off the Sky team because he simply sucked. All of a sudden he develops asthma, is found to have bilharzia and BADDA BOOM, TdF winner.
I've seen this movie before. You have to be an ingenuous prick to believe this guy is not doping.
The big deal was he claimed he had a TUE (therapeutic use exemption) but it was given last minute. And Xenon inhalation during the ride? lol - sure Since Xenon doesn't benefit you DURING exertion, you would never do that. Its taken nightly. And of course its banned now, for whatever use that will do.
The folks at Sky call it "marginal gains". Look, it's no surprise that him not puffing away at this past year's Vuelta had a lot to do with his drop in form. And, believe me, the cameras were on him day and night to catch him in the act. What he WAS clearly doing is taking some sort of bronchodilator. This image is from him at this past year's Dauphiné Libéré "queen" stage that ended at the Col du Béal:
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2meb7r7.jpg)
15 minutes later:
(http://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/06/dauphine14-st2-Froome-Contador-e1402328854661.jpg)
Same thing at the Mt Ventoux stage back in 2013: Guy takes a long puff and then does this to a guy who is a KNOWN doper (Contador tested positive for 50 picograms of clenbuterol):
Nígga please.
As for all the other competitors "dialing down" the PED's during the Tour and Lance running full gas - did your mom tell you this?
I didn't say they dialed it down during the TdF, they tapered off prior to the TdF. Lance was full on straight through the TdF. It's a well known fact, it's on USADA's report.
And no, it was your mom that told me this, while she was sucking my 12" love injector.
The team used the same protocol for the big tours, and Lance used 1/3 what they did. Yes, i know the full regimen in detail, from the source. Jan Ullrich, Ivan Basso, you name it, used the same stuff. Lance was flat out stronger. His ex teammates will tell you this if you ever been on a training ride with him.
That's not true. OMG! Did you even read the USADA report? The guy had foreknowledge of tests, he was doping on the bus, on his plane, he would buy doping products and hand them over to Johan for subsequent distribution to the other riders, he was involved in the back-of-the-bus $12,000 bike sales, and the money used to buy even more doping products. You show me ONE, just ONE, other team that had this level of sophistication when it came to cheating, including doping.
Look, the body doesn't lie. Take for example Tyler Hamilton. This is how a cyclist looks when ready for the TdF:
(http://werunandride.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/tyler_hamilton_fractured_collarbone_1.jpg)
This is how Lance looked while getting ready for the TdF:
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/cycling.lance.armstrong.training/images/lance-armstrong.37.b.jpg)
(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Tom-Hanks-Saying-Really.gif)
As for Sky being on gas all the time - show us your proof. I mean other than fantasizing while jerking off to Marco Pantani tapes.
Oh and your Contador conspiracy theory, lol. I suppose you also buy Hamilton's bs too
Visit cyclingnews.com if you do not believe me. They have a whole section on doping in cycling called The Clinic with lots of good stuff from insiders. And yes, Sky has its own thread. And yes, a recent poll showed that most fans believe Sky cyclists are on a doping program.
And yes, Contador is a doper too, but you tell me how you can physically put 50 picograms of clenbuterol into your system in a 48-hour period. The guy was tested on a Monday and then on a Wednesday: clean as a whistle on Monday and "dirty" on Wednesday.
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I'm pretty sure using xenon gas during the race would be like injecting EPO during the race. That's not the way you would use it.
Also, I don't think xenon is a banned substance.
Not if you take it 25 minutes before you get tested. I mean Froome won that stage. He got to the top before the gas had metabolized.
What is being rumored is that these guy now alternate stages so as to pass every test undetected.
I really do not have specifics but xenon is a well known EPO stimulant, and Froome taking a few puffs of some sort of bronchodilator + the xenon reproduces the effects of exogenous EPO.
Which explains Chris Froome's meteoric rise to fame.
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Lance competed in the Tour at under 160. He was no doubt shredded but certainly gaunt like the other riders.
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He was on some serious shit during the 96 season. He was pushing 180 during the 1996 Olympics. We were shocked at how vascular and how much muscle he was holding for the Olympics(as well as other team mates). I remember seeing him a few months apart and his conditioning completely changed. US really wanted to win that year, but it fell apart.
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He was on some serious shit during the 96 season. He was pushing 180 during the 1996 Olympics. We were shocked at how vascular and how much muscle he was holding for the Olympics(as well as other team mates). I remember seeing him a few months apart and his conditioning completely changed. US really wanted to win that year, but it fell apart.
He definitely competed much heavier before cancer.
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Look, the body doesn't lie. Take for example Tyler Hamilton. This is how a cyclist looks when ready for the TdF:
(http://werunandride.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/tyler_hamilton_fractured_collarbone_1.jpg)
To lose weight Tyler took Riis' advice: ride 6-8 hours, afterward drink a bottle of seltzer, and then take a sleeping pill or two to put yourself out until morning. Tyler couldn't generate as much power as Lance but by losing weight he came close to matching him in the mountains that year, 2003. If he hadn't broken his collarbone he'd have done better than 4th.
Lance never had to deprive himself to that extent.
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We clearly know the cyclists are using Some Form of P.E.D's
Exactly what I don't have much of an idea as I'm not into long distance cycling.
Zenon from what I have read certainly appears to offer a Big Boost similar to EPO.
Anyone with 'inside' knowledge Please Enlighten us as to what they are Doing.
As for Team Sky & Chris Froome Coming out of Nowhere & winning
Some New Radical Training & Supplement Regime.??
Or a Little More to it than that I would Guess.
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We clearly know the cyclists are using Some Form of P.E.D's
Exactly what I don't have much of an idea as I'm not into long distance cycling.
Zenon from what I have read certainly appears to offer a Big Boost similar to EPO.
Anyone with 'inside' knowledge Please Enlighten us as to what they are Doing.
As for Team Sky & Chris Froome Coming out of Nowhere & winning
Some New Radical Training & Supplement Regime.??
Or a Little More to it than that I would Guess.
I think it's no secret: Microdosing, going to outlandish places to dope (Contador went up to Kilimanjaro this past year during the first team camp,) enriched blood (for future in-race transfusions) is now stored in non-plastic containers just in case WADA or the UCI decide to go ahead with the damn plasticizers test, et cetera.
My take on it is this: Whatever I think there's no way in hell these guys are doing... they probably are. They've already mastered the art of flying under the blood passport radar (very few people are actually given penalties for iffy blood data) so it's no wonder they have to use ultra-sensitive testing machinery to bust anyone.
WADA-wise, I think they've implemented an anti-doping protocol that virtually sucks and is light years behind the dopers. It's too expensive. My suspicion is that they use the blood passport to find markers where potential doping events took place to find out when particular cyclists like to dope and then zero-in on the poor sucker.