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Apparently this lady has investigated many "Haunted Houses" but says she will not go back in the house in The Amityville Horror. A son killed his Parents and Brothers and Sisters in the house. Thoughts?
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/ghost-hunter-lorraine-warren-tells-us-one-haunted-050927065.html
Lorraine Warren doesn't have to go to the movies to see ghost stories—she lives them. Alongside her late husband, demonologist Ed Warren, the clairvoyant investigated some of the most famous and infamous paranormal hauntings around. Her most notable cases have inspired plenty of frightening flicks, including 1979's "The Amityville Horror" (as well as the 2005 remake) and next week's scream-inducer, "The Conjuring."
At "The Conjuring" press junket in San Francisco, Yahoo! Movies recently had the chance to speak with Lorraine Warren, now 86. We asked Warren how the 1971 case of the Perron family in Harrisville, Rhode Island, which inspired "The Conjuring," compares with the horror that the Lutz family experienced in Amityville, New York back in the mid '70s. Warren laughed, as if there is no comparison at all.
"Amityville was horrible, honey. It was absolutely horrible," she said. "It followed us right straight across the country. I don't even like to talk about it. I will never go in the Amityville house ever again. You don't know how long my career is; that's the only one."
Warren's career is indeed long, as she and her husband founded the New England Society for Psychic Research in 1952, and have over 4,000 cases in their files. So when Warren says that the Amityville house is the one haunted house she won't return to, it's apparent that something terrifying went down there.That something horrific did occur at the house is not in dispute. On November 13, 1974, 23-year-old Ronald DeFeo Jr. murdered his parents, two brothers, and two sisters. But that's not what inspired the film and its subsequent sequels.
About a year later, George and Kathy Lutz moved into the house at 112 Ocean Avenue with Kathy's three children. Not surprisingly, the Lutzes got a great deal on the house, which was ironically called High Hopes. But according to the Lutzes, after they moved in evil forces started rearranging the furniture (much of which was left over from the DeFeos), strange welts showed up on Kathy's body after she was levitated two feet in the air, a demonic face peered out of the fireplace, flies swarmed in the middle of winter, unexplained smells of excrement festered, green slime oozed off the walls and more. A dirty laundry list of paranormal terrorizing went down, enough so that the Lutzes finally evacuated High Hopes after only 28 days. The Warrens were among the few investigators to look into the case. And while many claim the whole story is a hoax, it's obvious in talking to Lorraine Warren that she remains a firm believer.
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fear is a product off the human mind
haunted houses dont exist only haunted minds
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fear is a product off the human mind
haunted houses dont exist only haunted minds
Thankyou for clearing up an age-old question. ::)
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Apparently this lady has investigated many "Haunted Houses" but says she will not go back in the house in The Amityville Horror. A son killed his Parents and Brothers and Sisters in the house. Thoughts?
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/ghost-hunter-lorraine-warren-tells-us-one-haunted-050927065.html
The Amityville horror was a hoax.
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No, but I do believe in haunted vaginas.
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No, but I do believe in haunted vaginas.
Yes agreed.
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the house was listed when it was for sale in 2010 for 1.5 Million
108 Ocean Ave, Amityville, NY 11701
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fear is a product off the human mind
haunted houses dont exist only haunted minds
Maybe so, only thing is a bunch of haunting stories over the years not sure if I believe or not I never seen a ghost but may tonight who knows.
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Maybe so, only thing is a bunch of haunting stories over the years not sure if I believe or not I never seen a ghost but may tonight who knows.
i would love to see a ghost
there should be unknown mysteries in the world
but all the people that i know that claim to have seen them are idiots or weirdos
they dont exist
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i would love to see a ghost
there should be unknown mysteries in the world
but all the people that i know that claim to have seen them are idiots or weirdos
they dont exist
Sure you would. It would be the only posedown you could win.
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http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f237/real-amityville-horror-crime-scene-pictures-29401/ (http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f237/real-amityville-horror-crime-scene-pictures-29401/)
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i would love to see a ghost
there should be unknown mysteries in the world
but all the people that i know that claim to have seen them are idiots or weirdos
they dont exist
A guy once told me how to summon a demon, he gave me all this ritual written out and said if i did it right the demon would appear behind me but if I looked around it would disappear before I saw it. ::)
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A guy once told me how to summon a demon, he gave me all this ritual written out and said if i did it right the demon would appear behind me but if I looked around it would disappear before I saw it. ::)
haha
its a win win
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A guy once told me how to summon a demon, he gave me all this ritual written out and said if i did it right the demon would appear behind me but if I looked around it would disappear before I saw it. ::)
I bet it was Tbombz.
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http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f237/real-amityville-horror-crime-scene-pictures-29401/ (http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f237/real-amityville-horror-crime-scene-pictures-29401/)
Good find on what went down there.
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I vividly remember the "stair stepper" at a friends house. It took them years to figure out that somebody was going up and down the stairs even though everybody had already entered his room.
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I don't know. Too many situations in my life that could have ended bad but something swayed me. Luck? Maybe, who knows.
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http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f237/real-amityville-horror-crime-scene-pictures-29401/ (http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f237/real-amityville-horror-crime-scene-pictures-29401/)
There is a movie of the kid who grew up in the house. He's an adult now, and the dude is like angry/sad/mad...like screwed up in the head.
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There is a movie of the kid who grew up in the house. He's an adult now, and the dude is like angry/sad/mad...like screwed up in the head.
Damn, must be some kind of gas fumes that infect the brain
is this a documentary parker?
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No, but I do believe in haunted vaginas.
This
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No, but I do believe in rented vaginas.
fixed.
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fixed.
;D
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There is a movie of the kid who grew up in the house. He's an adult now, and the dude is like angry/sad/mad...like screwed up in the head.
Possession maybe?
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the house was listed when it was for sale in 2010 for 1.5 Million
108 Ocean Ave, Amityville, NY 11701
Been inside that house many times. It's beautiful, waterfront property in Amityville, long island is no joke.
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I vividly remember the "stair stepper" at a friends house. It took them years to figure out that somebody was going up and down the stairs even though everybody had already entered his room.
Someone here posted once that he and his wife were down stairs and they could here someone walking up the steps nightly. I never heard what they found out but the dude was scared it seemed.
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Someone here posted once that he and his wife were down stairs and they could here someone walking up the steps nightly. I never heard what they found out but the dude was scared it seemed.
It's called the house settling in. Especially, if it is made from wood.
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Go spend some time in Haiti or Honduras and come back saying there isn't evil spirits...The Hierarchy recently hit Haiti with a massive earthquake machine for that very reason...
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Someone here posted once that he and his wife were down stairs and they could here someone walking up the steps nightly. I never heard what they found out but the dude was scared it seemed.
Happens at my GFs house all the time. Her house Is straight up haunted. It's not I'm my mind. One time we heard LOUD footsteps right above us in her daughters room. We didn't think we heard it, it wasn't the AC, the fucking floor shook..we run upstairs, stone quiet...but every Mobile hanging from her ceiling is whizzing around at 100 rpms. There is like 10 of them.
Come downstairs in the morning one time...she had shelves from floor to ceiling in each corner of the living room with all differemt buddhas on the shelves. Every single one is turned EXACTLY the same angle, facing the wall.
I could go on for pages. Even crazier shit.
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Been inside that house many times. It's beautiful, waterfront property in Amityville, long island is no joke.
What reason were you in there?
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What reason were you in there?
Witness protection.
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I thought I saw something unexplained once.
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Happens at my GFs house all the time. Her house Is straight up haunted. It's not I'm my mind. One time we heard LOUD footsteps right above us in her daughters room. We didn't think we heard it, it wasn't the AC, the fucking floor shook..we run upstairs, stone quiet...but every Mobile hanging from her ceiling is whizzing around at 100 rpms. There is like 10 of them.
Come downstairs in the morning one time...she had shelves from floor to ceiling in each corner of the living room with all differemt buddhas on the shelves. Every single one is turned EXACTLY the same angle, facing the wall.
I could go on for pages. Even crazier shit.
Why not video it, you'd be the first person to capture it, strangely enough no one has ever managed to achieve it before ::)
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I thought I saw something unexplained once.
Your wife having a black baby?
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I thought I saw something unexplained once.
I think it was because they thought Goodrum was someone else so let him compete
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Your wife having a black baby?
Nicely done. I had my guard down. ;D
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Nicely done. I had my guard down. ;D
A knight always has his shield. Unless he is being purposely vulnerable ??? >:(
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A knight always has his shield. Unless he is being purposely vulnerable ??? >:(
I won't be so careless. I did see something weird once. I thought I saw a woman in a dress walking down the hallway. I'm sure there are rational reasons for it but it was strange never the less
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Why not video it, you'd be the first person to capture it, strangely enough no one has ever managed to achieve it before ::)
Capture what ? A spinning paper fish ? We don't "see ghosts".. weird, unexplainable shit happens
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fear is a product off the human mind
haunted houses dont exist only haunted minds
this. being scared is being weak.
death is certain. life is not.
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Capture what ? A spinning paper fish ? We don't "see ghosts".. weird, unexplainable shit happens
So the Buddhas wouldn't be captured all turning to the same angle?The ghost can block the camera while it does it?I can tell you how to setup a cheap home ip camera so it records 24/7 but something tells me an excuse will be made :D weird unexplainable shit doesn't happen, Occam's Razor is famous for a reason.
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this. being scared is being weak.
death is certain. life is not.
Teenagers will quote you forever.
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this. being scared is being weak.
death is certain. life is not.
Are we on Facebook?
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So the Buddhas wouldn't be captured all turning to the same angle?The ghost can block the camera while it does it?I can tell you how to setup a cheap home ip camera so it records 24/7 but something tells me an excuse will be made :D weird unexplainable shit doesn't happen, Occam's Razor is famous for a reason.
Last time i checked i can't predict the future...i didn't know it was going to happen. What does taking a picture afterward prove ? A bunch of buddhas on a shelf, BFD.
as far as setting up cameras and,trying to capture something, my "excuse" is I'm normal and have better things to do..it's not like the movies, this shit doesn't happen every night. Months pass, sometimes a year... but every now and again...something creepy happens
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Last time i checked i can't predict the future...i didn't know it was going to happen. What does taking a picture afterward prove ? A bunch of buddhas on a shelf, BFD.
as far as setting up cameras and,trying to capture something, my "excuse" is I'm normal and have better things to do..it's not like the movies, this shit doesn't happen every night. Months pass, sometimes a year... but every now and again...something creepy happens
Strange, that one creepy moment on camera could make you millions, but alas you are more comfortable making unverifiable forum posts about it.
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Any thing is possible
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Any thing is possible
So you think that cswol is actually going to compete?
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Strange, that one creepy moment on camera could make you millions, but alas you are more comfortable making unverifiable forum posts about it.
Oh yes....millions ::)
Like all the other youtube multimillionaires ::)
You don't believe me, i really don't give a fuck
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Oh yes....millions ::)
Like all the other youtube multimillionaires ::)
You don't believe me, i really don't give a fuck
Movie rights alone would make you a millionaire if you could get some footage.Throw on book deals, documentaries etc.Lets face it you are exaggerating in some point of your story, likely forgetting an extremely windy day or drunk friend moving objects.
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Why not video it, you'd be the first person to capture it, strangely enough no one has ever managed to achieve it before ::)
Hahah, are you saying that if Sucking Copious Cocks weren't full of more shit than Montel's psychic, he'd have claimed the $1 million James Randi Foundation prize on the basis of his "amazing" experiences by now?
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I live in one.
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Hahah, are you saying that if Seven Copper Cocks weren't full of more shit than Montel's psychic, he'd have claimed the $1 million James Randi Foundation prize on the basis of his "amazing" experiences by now?
Outed. Nobody knows what the fuck you are talking about.
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Happens at my GFs house all the time. Her house Is straight up haunted. It's not I'm my mind. One time we heard LOUD footsteps right above us in her daughters room. We didn't think we heard it, it wasn't the AC, the fucking floor shook..we run upstairs, stone quiet...but every Mobile hanging from her ceiling is whizzing around at 100 rpms. There is like 10 of them.
Come downstairs in the morning one time...she had shelves from floor to ceiling in each corner of the living room with all differemt buddhas on the shelves. Every single one is turned EXACTLY the same angle, facing the wall.
I could go on for pages. Even crazier shit.
Yes Groink I remember you posting that so is it still happening? How do you sleep after these events I assume just wear yourself out training and working.
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Outed. Nobody knows what the fuck you are talking about.
I do.
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I do.
Only fat, white women watch Montel.
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Only fat, white women watch Montel.
Randi's dismantling of Sylvia brown is legendary
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Last year I went on a hunting trip were my buddy lives. We camped out that night in this huge piece of state land. I've camped all over the country. I've slept in a tent thousands of times. In fact the last 3 months I've slept outside more then in my own bed. Never have I been afraid of being in the woods. Didn't sleep at all that night. Never saw or heard anything, just really frightened for no reason.
At the time I knew nothing about this place. Then I was afraid to admit it to my buddy, but I told him I was freaked out last night. This place was called happy valley. He tells me the show ghost hunters was there and they saw freaky shit. There used to be a town there but everyone got burned or something, and its known to be haunted.
I swear I didn't know a thing, but it made sense we hunted this huge area and didn't see one other person. Must be something to it.
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Last year I went on a hunting trip were my buddy lives. We camped out that night in this huge piece of state land. I've camped all over the country. I've slept in a tent thousands of times. In fact the last 3 months I've slept outside more then in my own bed. Never have I been afraid of being in the woods. Didn't sleep at all that night. Never saw or heard anything, just really frightened for no reason.
At the time I knew nothing about this place. Then I was afraid to admit it to my buddy, but I told him I was freaked out last night. This place was called happy valley. He tells me the show ghost hunters was there and they saw freaky shit. There used to be a town there but everyone got burned or something, and its known to be haunted.
I swear I didn't know a thing, but it made sense we hunted this huge area and didn't see one other person. Must be something to it.
You clearly had gay sex.
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Last year I went on a hunting trip were my buddy lives. We camped out that night in this huge piece of state land. I've camped all over the country. I've slept in a tent thousands of times. In fact the last 3 months I've slept outside more then in my own bed. Never have I been afraid of being in the woods. Didn't sleep at all that night. Never saw or heard anything, just really frightened for no reason.
At the time I knew nothing about this place. Then I was afraid to admit it to my buddy, but I told him I was freaked out last night. This place was called happy valley. He tells me the show ghost hunters was there and they saw freaky shit. There used to be a town there but everyone got burned or something, and its known to be haunted.
I swear I didn't know a thing, but it made sense we hunted this huge area and didn't see one other person. Must be something to it.
I would be be going to my truck with my shotgun in hand no matter the time and get the fuck out of there, how did you survive the night?
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Are we on Facebook?
I do not have a facebook/twitter/instagram
saw that quote on Denzel's arm in Training Day
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Yes Groink I remember you posting that so is it still happening? How do you sleep after these events I assume just wear yourself out training and working.
it's rented to tenants. we don't live there anymore..
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You clearly had gay sex.
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it's rented to tenants. we don't live there anymore..
Good move.
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Hahah, are you saying that if Sucking Copious Cocks weren't full of more shit than Montel's psychic, he'd have claimed the $1 million James Randi Foundation prize on the basis of his "amazing" experiences by now?
So true, Randi would give groink the million straight off if he could prove without a doubt the house had paranormal events happening.Strange how nobody has ever claimed that million in all the years he has been offering it!
For any Getbiggers who don't know James Randi is one of the cleverest men out there, also gay which a lot can relate to on this site.Started his career as a magician and escape artist then got so fed up with the bullshitters claiming psychic powers, communication with ghosts, telepathy etc that he spent the rest of his career owning liars like Uri Geller and Sylvia Brown.Has had a million dollars for anyone who can prove they have powers but no one has ever been able to do so.His site randi.org has some of the most intelligent posters around and destroy anyone on there who claim extraordinairy things.
So what is more likely, Groink is the first man alive that could have captured a spirit/ghost on video or that he is lying or exaggerating?Occam's Razor folks.
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So true, Randi would give groink the million straight off if he could prove without a doubt the house had paranormal events happening.Strange how nobody has ever claimed that million in all the years he has been offering it!
For any Getbiggers who don't know James Randi is one of the cleverest men out there, also gay which a lot can relate to on this site.Started his career as a magician and escape artist then got so fed up with the bullshitters claiming psychic powers, communication with ghosts, telepathy etc that he spent the rest of his career owning liars like Uri Geller and Sylvia Brown.Has had a million dollars for anyone who can prove they have powers but no one has ever been able to do so.His site randi.org has some of the most intelligent posters around and destroy anyone on there who claim extraordinairy things.
So what is more likely, Groink is the first man alive that could have captured a spirit/ghost on video or that he is lying or we exaggerating?Occam's Razor folks.
You assume i knew about this dude before right now, or have any interest in his "challenge"
It's like this, when i firsr met my girl and she said her house was haunted..i was just like you....."yeah, right...your mind is playing tricks on you." Aftet spending a year and a half there...that fucking house is haunted. I have seen shit that defies logic.
You want to make some idiotic crusade on Getbig because you don't believe me....knock yourself out champ. ;)
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You assume i knew about this dude before right now, or have any interest in his "challenge"
It's like this, when i firsr met my girl and she said her house was haunted..i was just like you....."yeah, right...your mind is playing tricks on you." Aftet spending a year and a half there...that fucking house is haunted. I have seen shit that defies logic.
You want to make some idiotic crusade on Getbig because you don't believe me....knock yourself out champ. ;)
Straight if get any of that shit that you experienced I am moving out quickly.
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i saw something landing on the moon once or flew at the moon maybe a ufo, but never seen a ghost
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i saw something landing on the moon once or flew at the moon maybe a ufo, but never seen a ghost
That brings up another topic anyone here seen a UFO other than Johnny?
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You clearly had gay sex.
It was like 0 degrees out and that's way too frigid for me to get a proper erection.
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I would be be going to my truck with my shotgun in hand no matter the time and get the fuck out of there, how did you survive the night?
Ya but understand. I thought this was just a regular piece of state owned hunting land. I had no reason to be scared, I just was freaked out.
this is the place
http://www.ghostvillage.com/ghostcommunity/index.php?showtopic=22419
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That brings up another topic anyone here seen a UFO other than Johnny?
ive been star gazing alot and that was the weirdest damn thing ever
saw probably 20-30 shooting stars
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You assume i knew about this dude before right now, or have any interest in his "challenge"
It's like this, when i firsr met my girl and she said her house was haunted..i was just like you....."yeah, right...your mind is playing tricks on you." Aftet spending a year and a half there...that fucking house is haunted. I have seen shit that defies logic.
You want to make some idiotic crusade on Getbig because you don't believe me....knock yourself out champ. ;)
I'm not making a crusade, I'd call anyone out who said that shit, every scientific advancement we make is set back by continuing to believe fairy stories that came from ignorant pre medievil beliefs.
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it's rented to tenants. we don't live there anymore..
Does she know the history of the house?
All the Buddhas turned towards the wall...hmm sound like either someone/some thing doesn't like fat Asian men, or what the Buddha represents.
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ive been star gazing alot and that was the weirdest damn thing ever
saw probably 20-30 shooting stars
Don't worry, one day they will return to take you back to your home planet.
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Possession maybe?
I'm not sure, it came out this yr I think...dude is angry and messed up.
Also...the show Paranormal Witness...where people talk about living in a haunted house...there was one episode about a family who moved into a place in NYC---Bronx I think, and she it was happening.
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That's a good show.
And it has definitely shown some weird shit since it first aired.
There was one where it was raining upside-down in someone's house. Even cops saw it.
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I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to this type of shit, but me and a group of five friends all saw something at the same time. My father also grew up in a house that had many unexplainable occurrences. Who knows.
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I have seen some weird and unexplainable things some times.
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Apparently this lady has investigated many "Haunted Houses" but says she will not go back in the house in The Amityville Horror. A son killed his Parents and Brothers and Sisters in the house. Thoughts?
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/ghost-hunter-lorraine-warren-tells-us-one-haunted-050927065.html
Bro it's not the spirits of the dead, it's demons attached to them that remain.
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I have seen some weird and unexplainable things some times.
Bro, you shouldn't talk about your girlfriend like that. She might be ugly as a monkey's ass, but she is your girlfriend!
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I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to this type of shit, but me and a group of five friends all saw something at the same time. My father also grew up in a house that had many unexplainable occurrences. Who knows.
Same here. Thing is, I'm not a believer..I'm skeptical and logical. But when you are sitting home, alone, not a doubt in your mind you are by yourself, and you hear tbe "click" of the switch in the kitchen and the fucking light goes on...it's game over. I left the house on that one. At first i thought someone broke in, and that scared the shit out of me, then i realized it just went on, and i was like.."hell no, fuck this...I'm out"
I don't know how my GF did it...she would spend days all by herself there, and freaky shit would happen, and she wasn't scared in the slightest, she would say.."they aren't mean, they just like to play" I'm being dead honest..she's got balls of Iron. My fucking hair would stand up as soon as i walked through the door.
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Never seen anything but 2 things make me question it
When my son had not long turned 4 he was playing in his room and came downstairs saying how the old lady wont talk to me. Baffled by this we asked him to show us so we went to his room and showed us where he seen her and he described roughly what my nanna looked like and said how he tried to talk to her but she wouldnt answer.
The other time me and a mate were walking home from a night out in a town a few miles over and walked across the farmers fields as it was shorter and as we approached a clump of trees we heard what can only be described as a large very thick piece of wood being bent making a very loud groaning/creaking sound. The sound repeated 2 or 3 times along with a very eerie feeling to stay away from the trees. Without admiting or talking about it we both decieded it would be better togive those trees a very wide birth.sounds stupid now but was genuinley creepy at the time.
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Same here. Thing is, I'm not a believer..I'm skeptical and logical. But when you are sitting home, alone, not a doubt in your mind you are by yourself, and you hear tbe "click" of the switch in the kitchen and the fucking light goes on...it's game over. I left the house on that one. At first i thought someone broke in, and that scared the shit out of me, then i realized it just went on, and i was like.."hell no, fuck this...I'm out"
I don't know how my GF did it...she would spend days all by herself there, and freaky shit would happen, and she wasn't scared in the slightest, she would say.."they aren't mean, they just like to play" I'm being dead honest..she's got balls of Iron. My fucking hair would stand up as soon as i walked through the door.
More likely, worlds first verifiable ghost or faulty switch?
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Same here. Thing is, I'm not a believer..I'm skeptical and logical. But when you are sitting home, alone, not a doubt in your mind you are by yourself, and you hear tbe "click" of the switch in the kitchen and the fucking light goes on...it's game over. I left the house on that one. At first i thought someone broke in, and that scared the shit out of me, then i realized it just went on, and i was like.."hell no, fuck this...I'm out"
Worlds first verifiable ghost!
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Same here. Thing is, I'm not a believer..I'm skeptical and logical. But when you are sitting home, alone, not a doubt in your mind you are by yourself, and you hear tbe "click" of the switch in the kitchen and the fucking light goes on...it's game over. I left the house on that one. At first i thought someone broke in, and that scared the shit out of me, then i realized it just went on, and i was like.."hell no, fuck this...I'm out"
I don't know how my GF did it...she would spend days all by herself there, and freaky shit would happen, and she wasn't scared in the slightest, she would say.."they aren't mean, they just like to play" I'm being dead honest..she's got balls of Iron. My fucking hair would stand up as soon as i walked through the door.
They are probably attached to her
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That's a good show.
And it has definitely shown some weird shit since it first aired.
There was one where it was raining upside-down in someone's house. Even cops saw it.
Sheeeeeit...raining upside down? He'll No...that wine box thing would have been scary as hell.
There was one, where apparently this woman kept seeing yellow eyes outside her house (in the middle of no where). She called the police and her husband, and nobody saw the person. Finally one day her husband was backing up, and saw the thing and got out. Saw that it had been on the roof. He and friend got some guns and tracked it (big ass tracks) to a shack in the woods. Well. They found out who lived in the shack, and they went to town, to get a tire changed and it was a tall lanky dude with yellow.
Anyways, one day he died, and they went to his shack. In the back of the shack was a huge steel/riveted room with huge as chains and shackles attached to the walls. And scratch marks all over the place...like the steel was scratched...They didn't want to say the word that they all thought...
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More likely, worlds first verifiable ghost or faulty switch?
Yes, all the books, TV shows and movies that generate hundreds of millions of dollars...they are all bullshit because Army of one on Getbig doesn't approve.....LOLOL.
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Yes, all the books, TV shows and movies that generate hundreds of millions of dollars...they are all bullshit because Army of one on Getbig doesn't approve.....LOLOL.
Don't worry, I'm sparking him out in Bethnal Green soon.
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Yes, all the books, TV shows and movies that generate hundreds of millions of dollars...they are all bullshit because Army of one on Getbig doesn't approve.....LOLOL.
The problem with all these books is that thy are predominately written by believers who lack a critical eye. It would be like asking Pat Robertson to write a book examine the truth of the bible or Al Sharpton righting an honest appraisal of race relations.
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Don't worry, I'm sparking him out in Bethnal Green soon.
Make sure you snap a pic of this remarkable human while you're at it... :D
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The problem with all these books is that thy are predominately written by believers who lack a critical eye. It would be like asking Pat Robertson to write a book examine the truth of the bible or Al Sharpton righting an honest appraisal of race relations.
That's the problem with media in general. Seldom is anything unbiased..it's human nature.
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Make sure you snap a pic of this remarkable human while you're at it... :D
I have a feeling he's the type of guy who goes out for runs in expensive luminous yellow matching gear.
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That's the problem with media in general. Seldom is anything unbiased..it's human nature.
The the books and stuff if not written by someone that has experienced some of this as you have are much BS people trying to make money.
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That's the problem with media in general. Seldom is anything unbiased..it's human nature.
You're absolutely correct. The only remedy is to apply a little skepticism. I tell people to never assume there are only two answers
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I have seen very tough guys running away from a near by so called hauted house. Not talking just about strange noises, they got punched and slapped inside and it was during the day. Those things are rare but they exist.
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You're absolutely correct. The only remedy is to apply a little skepticism. I tell people to never assume there are only two answers
What's odd is that many skeptics don't try and debunk the real serious shit. Like people being hit, scratched. Pets being effed up, people being pushed down steps...or that Dybbuk Box thing. They never eff with the hardcore shit.
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What's odd is that many skeptics don't try and debunk the real serious shit. Like people being hit, scratched. Pets being effed up, people being pushed down steps...or that Dybbuk Box thing. They never eff with the hardcore shit.
They do. The thing is its very difficult to validate a persons experience because you only have their word and no tangible evidence.
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What's odd is that many skeptics don't try and debunk the real serious shit. Like people being hit, scratched. Pets being effed up, people being pushed down steps...or that Dybbuk Box thing. They never eff with the hardcore shit.
I think you have had some dreams of the paranormal when wake you have to ask yourself were they dreams or was I awake and and this stuff I saw was really there. Wee hours of the morning most times when I have experienced things.
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Same here. Thing is, I'm not a believer..I'm skeptical and logical. But when you are sitting home, alone, not a doubt in your mind you are by yourself, and you hear tbe "click" of the switch in the kitchen and the fucking light goes on...it's game over. I left the house on that one. At first i thought someone broke in, and that scared the shit out of me, then i realized it just went on, and i was like.."hell no, fuck this...I'm out"
I don't know how my GF did it...she would spend days all by herself there, and freaky shit would happen, and she wasn't scared in the slightest, she would say.."they aren't mean, they just like to play" I'm being dead honest..she's got balls of Iron. My fucking hair would stand up as soon as i walked through the door.
Exactly. It's not like I scream ghost every time I see something out of the corner of my eye or hear the house creak. But there are times every now and then where things occur that have no viable explanation. In your case, the fact that more than one person was witnessing it makes it all the more credible.
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They do. The thing is its very difficult to validate a persons experience because you only have their word and no tangible evidence.
I would really like someone to investigate the Dybbuk Box, but a curator of Truman University's museum (who I believe is a medical doctor) has that thing locked up in an undisclosed location because of all the freaky, weird and dangerous shit that went on with that damn wine box.
I think you have had some dreams of the paranormal when wake you have to ask yourself were they dreams or was I awake and and this stuff I saw was really there. Wee hours of the morning most times when I have experienced things.
3 o clock in the morning...
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I would really like someone to investigate the Dybbuk Box, but a curator of Truman University's museum (who I believe is a medical doctor) has that thing locked up in an undisclosed location because of all the freaky, weird and dangerous shit that went on with that damn wine box.
3 o clock in the morning...
I've had a weird experience myself but I try not to jump to conclusions. You've piqued my curiosity about the Dybbuk Box. Never heard of it.
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I would really like someone to investigate the Dybbuk Box, but a curator of Truman University's museum (who I believe is a medical doctor) has that thing locked up in an undisclosed location because of all the freaky, weird and dangerous shit that went on with that damn wine box.
3 o clock in the morning...
Yes 2:00 - 4:00 am seems when most strange things happen.
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I've had a weird experience myself but I try not to jump to conclusions. You've piqued my curiosity about the Dybbuk Box. Never heard of it.
There was an episode on it, on Paranormal Witness. They go more indepth about it. There was a kid from Truman University (or another college) that apparently bought it on eBay from an owner who had some weird dangerous shit go on. That kid was having weird dangerous shit go on, and then he sold it on eBay to the curator of Truman U's museum...that is the way the show went
Here is a website
http://www.dibbukbox.com/ (http://www.dibbukbox.com/)
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There was an episode on it, on Paranormal Witness. They go more indepth about it. There was a kid from Truman University (or another college) that apparently bought it on eBay from an owner who had some weird dangerous shit go on. That kid was having weird dangerous shit go on, and then he sold it on eBay to the curator of Truman U's museum...that is the way the show went
Here is a website
http://www.dibbukbox.com/ (http://www.dibbukbox.com/)
They shot an episode of that show in my town. The only episode I've ever watched.
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Once I moved to this older house a number of years ago. I felt strange after a couple of weeks. I later found out from neighbors that a guy living there before hung himself on the back porch. One night around 2:30 am I here a noise like the back porch door closing and making a sound then I here footsteps, I got my shotgun and went to investigate nothing there then the power goes out on the whole street. Terrified I lit a candle and sat with my gun got through the night. I moved shortly after I felt evil there.
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Seriously, In a sence, many houses contains some kind of ghost there.
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Seriously, In a sence, many houses contains some kind of ghost there.
You seen anything strange in your house kyomu?
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You seen anything strange in your house kyomu?
Sometime go passing. But they dont harm anyone in my house.
In the other night,one visited us with famous sound of ghost.
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Once I moved to this older house a number of years ago. I felt strange after a couple of weeks. I later found out from neighbors that a guy living there before hung himself on the back porch. One night around 2:30 am I here a noise like the back porch door closing and making a sound then I here footsteps, I got my shotgun and went to investigate nothing there then the power goes out on the whole street. Terrified I lit a candle and sat with my gun got through the night. I moved shortly after I felt evil there.
houses like that should be burned down and paved over and made into a park or a parking garage...
Just think of what will happen with the World Trade Center memorial.
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houses like that should be burned down and paved over and made into a park or a parking garage...
Just think of what will happen with the World Trade Center memorial.
I agree th house is still there I see it when going to my hometown. Another strange twist to the that house there were 3 apartments in the house. A pretty girl lived across the hall from me, I never saw her leave the house and thought that was strange. So one day I come back from working out had a tank top on as unlocking my door the girl opens hers and says nice body lets have dinner sometime I say ok let me know. Twist is she had a boyfriend I could here them fucking alot of nights, so one day I get a knock its her she says you want to come over tonight for dinner I say sure. So we we ended up having sex. Now there was a person living upstairs I could them walking but never saw them for 6 months, I got the hell out of there too strange for me.
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Yes, all the books, TV shows and movies that generate hundreds of millions of dollars...they are all bullshit because Army of one on Getbig doesn't approve.....LOLOL.
Lots of books, movies and TV shows feature unicorns and fairies too, are you going to tell me they are real to?
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Yes 2:00 - 4:00 am seems when most strange things happen.
Because that is when strange things happen in horror movies. Thus, we have programmed ourselves to be scared of the dark. In the same way that children hate going into basements all alone.
All in our heads.
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Because that is when strange things happen in horror movies. Thus, we have programmed ourselves to be scared of the dark. In the same way that children hate going into basements all alone.
All in our heads.
Maybe so who knows?
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Because that is when strange things happen in horror movies. Thus, we have programmed ourselves to be scared of the dark. In the same way that children hate going into basements all alone.
All in our heads.
i've never seen a horror a horror flick that said that 3am is when shit starts happening.
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i've never seen a horror a horror flick that said that 3am is when shit starts happening.
Good trolling post.
Paranormal activity (the movie) happened from 12 midnight to morning time.
Horror movies tend to happen at night, whether thats 1am, 12am, or 3am. It has more to do with the fact that its night-time, as opposed to a specific hour.
Second, show me the evidence that weird stuff happens between 3am-4am.
Oh, you can't.
So please shut up and stop trolling.
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Maybe so who knows?
Its the same reason that aliens are small and green with big heads. All perpetuated by the movies and media.
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That jewish box shit is beyond creepy no way id have that shit in my house.
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Not saying it is haunted, not saying that it isn't, but touring Treblinka 1 & 2 you have the feeling some kind of weight just riding your shoulders. Not a mental/emotional weight either but like someone has just straddled you with a back pack. Birds do not even fly over this camp. They fly around it, circling the perimeter. Will not fly over it.
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Not saying it is haunted, not saying that it isn't, but touring Treblinka 1 & 2 you have the feeling some kind of weight just riding your shoulders. Not a mental/emotional weight either but like someone has just straddled you with a back pack. Birds do not even fly over this camp. They fly around it, circling the perimeter. Will not fly over it.
Its all psychological. You have heard it is haunted, therefore you "feel" a presence.
They took 2 groups of people. Group 1 they brought to a house and told them it was haunted. They brought group 2 to a house and did not tell them anything. Neither house was ever suspected of being haunted.
Afterward they interviewed the people, and ppl in group 1 stated that they heard noises, felt a presence, felt a chill in their air, and reported an overall heavy feeling. Group 2 did not report anything.
Group 1 only felt that stuff because they were told it was suspected of being haunted.
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Its all psychological. You have heard it is haunted, therefore you "feel" a presence.
They took 2 groups of people. Group 1 they brought to a house and told them it was haunted. They brought group 2 to a house and did not tell them anything. Neither house was ever suspected of being haunted.
Afterward they interviewed the people, and ppl in group 1 stated that they heard noises, felt a presence, felt a chill in their air, and reported an overall heavy feeling. Group 2 did not report anything.
Group 1 only felt that stuff because they were told it was suspected of being haunted.
too logical, I'm not buying it
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too logical, I'm not buying it
Are you being sarcastic? :-X :-\ ???
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Are you being sarcastic? :-X :-\ ???
He is. I agree with your comment as well.
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He is. I agree with your comment as well.
Oh, okay. ha lol. You never know on GB :) :D
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Oh, okay. ha lol. You never know on GB :) :D
True.
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Oh, okay. ha lol. You never know on GB :) :D
You sure don't.
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The error in many paranormalists' reasoning is to falsely suppose that a certain exclusive disjunction holds: either a ready-made scientific explanation is on hand for a supposedly paranormal event, or the paranormal explanation must be correct. So, if there isn't an immediate explanation on hand, it must be that ghosts exist, that that strange feeling is an ethereal aura of some sort, that the creaking is grandma coming up the steps because she doesn't know she's dead.
The problem is that the disjunction happens to be false: nothing whatever about grandma or ghosts follows from there not being a scientific explanation on hand for a given event*; secondly, there are pretty good scientific explanations on hand anyway (viz., those that explain such events in terms of the psychology of the witnesses); and thirdly, there's no reason to suppose that in cases with no current explanation, there won't be a viable one from a future iteration of science (e.g., maybe creepy auras are the result of streams of an as-of-yet undiscovered particle exciting certain parts of peoples' brain once they enter given areas, rather like radiated zones do the same).
*The religious hold a similarly silly disjunction where the non-science related disjunct is simply "GOD!!", "GOD did it," or some such. As such, they are similarly...ahem..."misguided."
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The error in many paranormalists' reasoning is to falsely suppose that a certain exclusive disjunction holds: either a ready-made scientific explanation is on hand for a supposedly paranormal event, or the paranormal explanation must be correct. So, if there isn't an immediate explanation on hand, it must be that ghosts exist, that that strange feeling is an ethereal aura of some sort, that the creaking is grandma coming up the steps because she doesn't know she's dead.
The problem is that the disjunction happens to be false: nothing whatever about grandma or ghosts follows from there not being a scientific explanation on hand for a given event*; secondly, there are pretty good scientific explanations on hand anyway (viz., those that explain such events in terms of the psychology of the witnesses); and thirdly, there's no reason to suppose that in cases with no current explanation, there won't be a viable one from a future iteration of science (e.g., maybe creepy auras are the result of streams of an as-of-yet undiscovered particle exciting certain parts of peoples' brain once they enter given areas, rather like radiated zones do the same).
*The religious hold a similarly silly disjunction where the non-science related disjunct is simply "GOD!!", "GOD did it," or some such. As such, they are similarly...ahem..."misguided."
Exactly. Well said, as usual. Please everybody read and comprehend. Am I hanging on thy nuts, my lord?
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Good trolling post.
Paranormal activity (the movie) happened from 12 midnight to morning time.
Horror movies tend to happen at night, whether thats 1am, 12am, or 3am. It has more to do with the fact that its night-time, as opposed to a specific hour.
Second, show me the evidence that weird stuff happens between 3am-4am.
Oh, you can't.
So please shut up and stop trolling.
3am---that time frame was spoken of long before Paranormal Activity an all these other popular ghost shows.
Horror movies, horror shows especially now, in the Internet age, where everybody is God, makes it's money off of the feeling of not being so invulnerable...especiall y when one is sleep. Playing on well known tropes.
The Freddy Kruger Friday The 13th slasher movies plays upon this. Even the grandfather of all horror writing, Edgar Allen Poe, played upon the guilty conscience of men in "The Tell tale heart."
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The error in many paranormalists' reasoning is to falsely suppose that a certain exclusive disjunction holds: either a ready-made scientific explanation is on hand for a supposedly paranormal event, or the paranormal explanation must be correct. So, if there isn't an immediate explanation on hand, it must be that ghosts exist, that that strange feeling is an ethereal aura of some sort, that the creaking is grandma coming up the steps because she doesn't know she's dead.
The problem is that the disjunction happens to be false: nothing whatever about grandma or ghosts follows from there not being a scientific explanation on hand for a given event*; secondly, there are pretty good scientific explanations on hand anyway (viz., those that explain such events in terms of the psychology of the witnesses); and thirdly, there's no reason to suppose that in cases with no current explanation, there won't be a viable one from a future iteration of science (e.g., maybe creepy auras are the result of streams of an as-of-yet undiscovered particle exciting certain parts of peoples' brain once they enter given areas, rather like radiated zones do the same).
*The religious hold a similarly silly disjunction where the non-science related disjunct is simply "GOD!!", "GOD did it," or some such. As such, they are similarly...ahem..."misguided."
"Did you touch me?"
"No, I didn't touch you..."
"There is only two of us in the room, right?"
"Yeah, only two...why is the door closing?"
"Ok, who rigged the room...this shit isn't funny..."
"Hey, what the fuck, did you scratch me? WTH...dude!"
"I didn't touch you..."
"Why is you dog hiding under the bed?"
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3am---that time frame was spoken of long before Paranormal Activity an all these other popular ghost shows.
Horror movies, horror shows especially now, in the Internet age, where everybody is God, makes it's money off of the feeling of not being so invulnerable...especiall y when one is sleep. Playing on well known tropes.
The Freddy Kruger Friday The 13th slasher movies plays upon this. Even the grandfather of all horror writing, Edgar Allen Poe, played upon the guilty conscience of men in "The Tell tale heart."
ha, great, so you're evidence is a bunch of loonies walking around haunted houses at night? LMAO!!
Such credible evidence. Present some real evidence, then we can talk. However, I suspect that you can only provide anecdotal evidence, which is pretty weak.
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"Did you touch me?"
"No, I didn't touch you..."
"There is only two of us in the room, right?"
"Yeah, only two...why is the door closing?"
"Ok, who rigged the room...this shit isn't funny..."
"Hey, what the fuck, did you scratch me? WTH...dude!"
"I didn't touch you..."
"Why is you dog hiding under the bed?"
??? ???
Was this a conversation between 2 loony bins walking around with paranormal equipment? ::) ::)
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ha, great, so you're evidence is a bunch of loonies walking around haunted houses at night? LMAO!!
Such credible evidence. Present some real evidence, then we can talk. However, I suspect that you can only provide anecdotal evidence, which is pretty weak.
No, not my evidence...and how are they loonies? Are you going to school to be a psychologist? So, you've already made your conclusion already about a person...
Maybe if you don't believe you can try and disprove a place...or talk to curator of Truman University's museum who I believe is a medical doctor, and had that Dibbuk Box...read up on it.
I'm on the fence with a lot of stuff....it can be just as easy for someone to not believe, because it can set their mind at ease, "these things don't happen, these people are crazy."
Just as it's easy for some people (swol) to convince themselves that they are the most muscular person in the gym.
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??? ???
Was this a conversation between 2 loony bins walking around with paranormal equipment? ::) ::)
No, I made shit up...
But, you see how easy it is to come up with something, that almost gets someone else going...
;)
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No, not my evidence...and how are they loonies? Are you going to school to be a psychologist? So, you've already made your conclusion already about a person...
Maybe if you don't believe you can try and disprove a place...or talk to curator of Truman University's museum who I believe is a medical doctor, and had that Dibbuk Box...read up on it.
I'm on the fence with a lot of stuff....it can be just as easy for someone to not believe, because it can set their mind at ease, "these things don't happen, these people are crazy."
Just as it's easy for some people (swol) to convince themselves that they are the most muscular person in the gym.
I dont have to disprove anything. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim (same thing with theists making the argument that God exists). This is logic 101. I do not have to prove a negative.
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No, I made shit up...
But, you see how easy it is to come up with something, that almost gets someone else going...
;)
Sure, you made it up. :-X
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I like you both, stop fighting.
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I dont have to disprove anything. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim (same thing with theists making the argument that God exists). This is logic 101. I do not have to prove a negative.
But, you just called two people (who you called loonies)...loonies. (Who are these people?) you already made your mind up.
Suppose someone invited you to a place, and not told you it was haunted, but that odd things happened there. Would you go? Would you go to a place that they told you was haunted, and shit did happen to you, would you dismiss it?
Yes, I know that is logic, but it also absolves you..."hey you loonies, until you provide proof...you are a bunch of fools." Meanwhile, you stand way back...avoid the place or places...laugh from afar...does it help the mind to shut out such things? Does it help the mind to rationalize that "I won't do jack to disprove a thing..." Because just in case something something is there, that something doesn't do anything to you?
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I dont have to disprove anything. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim (same thing with theists making the argument that God exists). This is logic 101. I do not have to prove a negative.
Hahahahaaaaa.
Lets have a debate...the parameters are I'M RIGHT because i say so...and I don't have to prove it. You have to prove me wrong within a shadow of a doubt.
LOLOL....ok then ::)
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there is no proof
only i know this guy etc
if that box was genuine it would be a world wide phenomena
man the fuck up soldiers
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I have a motorcycle my dad gave me before he died every time I ride I get this strange feeling he he riding with me holding on like he held on along time before his death.
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Hahahahaaaaa.
Lets have a debate...the parameters are I'M RIGHT because i say so...and I don't have to prove it. You have to prove me wrong within a shadow of a doubt.
LOLOL....ok then ::)
He's relaying the basic rules of examining something scientifically.
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Hahahahaaaaa.
Lets have a debate...the parameters are I'M RIGHT because i say so...and I don't have to prove it. You have to prove me wrong within a shadow of a doubt.
LOLOL....ok then ::)
Clearly you arnt familiar with the commonly accepted protocol, it is exactly as SF described
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The error in many paranormalists' reasoning is to falsely suppose that a certain exclusive disjunction holds: either a ready-made scientific explanation is on hand for a supposedly paranormal event, or the paranormal explanation must be correct. So, if there isn't an immediate explanation on hand, it must be that ghosts exist, that that strange feeling is an ethereal aura of some sort, that the creaking is grandma coming up the steps because she doesn't know she's dead.
The problem is that the disjunction happens to be false: nothing whatever about grandma or ghosts follows from there not being a scientific explanation on hand for a given event*; secondly, there are pretty good scientific explanations on hand anyway (viz., those that explain such events in terms of the psychology of the witnesses); and thirdly, there's no reason to suppose that in cases with no current explanation, there won't be a viable one from a future iteration of science (e.g., maybe creepy auras are the result of streams of an as-of-yet undiscovered particle exciting certain parts of peoples' brain once they enter given areas, rather like radiated zones do the same).
*The religious hold a similarly silly disjunction where the non-science related disjunct is simply "GOD!!", "GOD did it," or some such. As such, they are similarly...ahem..."misguided."
Just want to point out that you have substituted one unknown conclusion, ghosts, for another in your example (unknown particles), yet you ascribe them different status. There are many explanations, the only way to know is one by one check them off via experimentation.
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there is no proof
only i know this guy etc
if that box was genuine it would be a world wide phenomena
man the fuck up soldiers
find the box...there were three owners of the box, aside from the dead 103 yr old woman.
One owner was a young man who apparently was a skeptic, and shit started happening to him. He got rid of the box.
Do you think people are going go all over the place talking about that damn wine box? They would be made fun of, and nobody would take them seriously.
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Clearly you arnt familiar with the commonly accepted protocol, it is exactly as SF described
Commonly accpeted by whom exactly
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find the box...there were three owners of the box, aside from the dead 103 yr old woman.
One owner was a young man who apparently was a skeptic, and shit started happening to him. He got rid of the box.
Do you think people are going go all over the place talking about that damn wine box? They would be made fun of, and nobody would take them seriously.
come on mate
so you managed to hear about it but its a secret
use your mind
dont believe just cause you want to
if there was something like that in existence the whole world would know
fact
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Just want to point out that you have substituted one unknown conclusion, ghosts, for another in your example (unknown particles), yet you ascribe them different status. There are many explanations, the only way to know is one by one check them off via experimentation.
Yes this.
Have Syntax defend a narcotics trafficer with the defense that his client isn't guilty because there may be unknown magical benefits of cocaine and in the future it might be legal.
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hellz yes I believe in it ;D
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Hahahahaaaaa.
Lets have a debate...the parameters are I'M RIGHT because i say so...and I don't have to prove it. You have to prove me wrong within a shadow of a doubt.
LOLOL....ok then ::)
I do not understand what is so funny?
I never said I was right. Just said I do not have to prove a negative. That is MUCH different than saying I am right. Where did you get that idea from? I may be 100% wrong that ghosts do not exist. And if presented with the evidence, I will admit that I am wrong. Thus, at this point I will say that there is no scientific evidence to believe that ghosts exist, though I will leave room for a small chance that I am wrong, given the evidence.
In my opinion, this is a logical approach, and one which should be undertaken by most people when examining any claim.
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He's relaying the basic rules of examining something scientifically.
You would think most people would know this. Its scary that people actually believe this is the wrong way to go about examining claims.
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Clearly you arnt familiar with the commonly accepted protocol, it is exactly as SF described
Apparently, he has an alternate way to examine claims.
Maybe he can win the Nobel Prize.
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You would think most people would know this. Its scary that people actually believe this is the wrong way to go about examining claims.
High school biology, man.
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High school biology, man.
I know it full well.
We aren't in biology class, discussing concrete things. We are discussing things they are metaphysical, and "belief" more along the lines of a religious debate.
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come on mate
so you managed to hear about it but its a secret
use your mind
dont believe just cause you want to
if there was something like that in existence the whole world would know
fact
I don't have the box. I didn't experience what they experienced. Nor do I want the box, nor do I want to know where the damn box is. I cannot prove nor disprove what they said is true. For me to disprove it, in my eyes I would need the box...but I am not willing to disprove it, nor search for.
You are talking to someone who while under the age of 10 was lecturing his Country side of family about the virtues of snakes, and not to kill them. And whenever a snake was, I wanted to identify it, whether it was poisonous or not---by eyes, scales on head, etc. Very naive....but, I wanted to prove that said snakes were not bad thru identification of them. Thus, my family need not kill them.
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I know it full well.
We aren't in biology class, discussing concrete things. We are discussing things they are metaphysical, and "belief" more along the lines of a religious debate.
Haha, nice try
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I know it full well.
We aren't in biology class, discussing concrete things. We are discussing things they are metaphysical, and "belief" more along the lines of a religious debate.
You can't move the goal posts.
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Just want to point out that you have substituted one unknown conclusion, ghosts, for another in your example (unknown particles)
(nitpicking mode engaged) Perhaps you mean an unknown 'cause' or some such. A conclusion is a statement -- a linguistic entity of one sort or another. Ghosts and unknown particles won't be linguistic entities if they exist.
yet you ascribe them different status
Yes. I think that just because the unknown particle and ghosts are both theoretical posits (i.e., 'unknown' in some sense) doesn't mean we need treat them as equally plausible. The general point is easily made: I hereby stipulate the existence of theoretical entity G, a colony of invisible gnomes. I posit them, consistent with scientific practice, in order to explain an observation: that the universe is expanding rather than contracting. I think that the colony of invisible gnomes are at the boundaries of the universe, utilizing some nefarious gnomish technology to pull the universe apart. Now, is this posit as plausible as dark matter?
Just like dark matter is more plausible than invisible gnome colonies given the corpus of scientific knowledge we've accrued, so too are non-paranormal explanations more plausible than paranormal (ghosts, auras, spirits, etc.) ones. There is literally nothing in what we know of the world to recommend positing ethereal entities and survival after death, and rather a lot to recommend explanations rooted in scientific psychology (especially the voluminous research indicating just how error-prone our cognition and perception is). If this changes, then we can reasonably begin to entertain the possibility of said alternative explanations -- but until then it is mere fantasy.
There are many explanations, the only way to know is one by one check them off via experimentation.
Maybe. If we accept this, we should look at all the experimentation going on and see what it indicates about the plausibility of paranormal explanations.
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Whose moving goal posts? i believe that there are unexplained phenomenon in this world, I've seen it with my own two eyes...numerous times. I know what i saw, you people want to lean on "science" well, science thought the earth was flat and the planets all revolved around us and not the Sun, not too long ago. Do you think you know everything ? I dont.
Syntax brought up a good point, albiet in a wrong way...there is stuff we don't know yet. Are they "ghosts" ? I don't know, but that is the term commonly used to describe things of this nature in this day and age, so I'll go with it. If someone figures out that it is nueron particles, then I'll go with that.
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(nitpicking mode engaged) Perhaps you mean an unknown 'cause' or some such. A conclusion is a statement -- a linguistic entity of one sort or another. Ghosts and unknown particles won't be linguistic entities if they exist.
Yes. I think that just because the unknown particle and ghosts are both theoretical posits (i.e., 'unknown' in some sense) doesn't mean we need treat them as equally plausible. The general point is easily made: I hereby stipulate the existence of theoretical entity G, a colony of invisible gnomes. I posit them, consistent with scientific practice, in order to explain an observation: that the universe is expanding rather than contracting. I think that the colony of invisible gnomes are at the boundaries of the universe, utilizing some nefarious gnomish technology to pull the universe apart. Now, is this posit as plausible as dark matter?
Just like dark matter is more plausible than invisible gnome colonies given the corpus of scientific knowledge we've accrued, so too are non-paranormal explanations more plausible than paranormal (ghosts, auras, spirits, etc.) ones. There is literally nothing in what we know of the world to recommend positing ethereal entities and survival after death, and rather a lot to recommend explanations rooted in scientific psychology (especially the voluminous research indicating just how error-prone our cognition and perception is). If this changes, then we can reasonably begin to entertain the possibility of said alternative explanations -- but until then it is mere fantasy.
Maybe. If we accept this, we should look at all the experimentation going on and see what it indicates about the plausibility of paranormal explanations.
You should see the pics people send in to coast to coast am...
Gnome houses in trees, lol...like a gnome is sitting in his house looking at his big screen gnome TV...and I bet said gnome doesn't believe in invisible gnome colonies either...
And how do invisible gnomes see each other?
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Whose moving goal posts? i believe that there are unexplained phenomenon in this world, I've seen it with my own two eyes...numerous times. I know what i saw, you people want to lean on "science" well, science thought the earth was flat and the planets all revolved around us and not the Sun, not too long ago. Do you think you know everything ? I dont.
Syntax brought up a good point, albiet in a wrong way...there is stuff we don't know yet. Are they "ghosts" ? I don't know, but that is the term commonly used to describe things of this nature in this day and age, so I'll go with it. If someone figures out that it is nueron particles, then I'll go with that.
Anecdotal evidence is not reliable evidence. Seeing things with your own 2 eyes means jack. This is why eyewitness testimonies are so poor. Ask 10 people who saw the same crime, and you will get different answers.
Well, of course we want to lean on science. How else do you think we should examine the universe? :-\
Science never claimed to have ALL the answers. And any scientists will admit that just because something is correct today, it does not mean it will be correct tomorrow. Science is progress, and I am assuming no good scientist will ever state that theory X will always be true, no matter what. The notion that science could be wrong still does not prove that houses are haunted.
There are unexplained phenomena. But just because its unexplained, it does not mean we should attach a metaphysical purpose/reason to it. If I cannot explain something, I will just take the default position of, "I do not know" instead of assuming something automatically without evidence.
Ghosts may exist. You may be 100% right. But up until now, there is not sufficient evidence that they do exist.
Looks like we will have to agree to disagree.
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Anecdotal evidence is not reliable evidence. Seeing things with your own 2 eyes means jack. This is why eyewitness testimonies are so poor. Ask 10 people who saw the same crime, and you will get different answers.
Well, of course we want to lean on science. How else do you think we should examine the universe? :-\
Science never claimed to have ALL the answers. And any scientists will admit that just because something is correct today, it does not mean it will be correct tomorrow. Science is progress, and I am assuming no good scientist will ever state that theory X will always be true, no matter what. The notion that science could be wrong still does not prove that houses are haunted.
There are unexplained phenomena. But just because its unexplained, it does not mean we should attach a metaphysical purpose/reason to it. If I cannot explain something, I will just take the default position of, "I do not know" instead of assuming something automatically without evidence.
Ghosts may exist. You may be 100% right. But up until now, there is not sufficient evidence that they do exist.
Looks like we will have to agree to disagree.
Fair enough. Good response.
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Well, of course we want to lean on science. How else do you think we should examine the universe? :-\
Via the indwelling of Christ, asshole.
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Via the indwelling of Christ, asshole.
Damnit! I had a feeling those damn scientists were going about it all wrong! :-\
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ive been star gazing alot and that was the weirdest damn thing ever
saw probably 20-30 shooting stars
I never understood shooting stars are they stars that just burn out or what give us some knowledge on this Johnny.
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I saw this from someone else that posted it. Guess what time 2:00 to 4:30 those hours as said before are linked more to paranormal alot more than other hours.
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Searching for spirits or invoke them is quite easy.
but, trying to invoke specified one is extremely difficult.
Also, exorcism is very difficult too.
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Searching for spirits or invoke them is quite easy.
but, trying to invoke specified one is extremely difficult.
Also, exorcism is very difficult too.
Good point.
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Good point.
Anyway, what i recommend to everybody is: Better stay away as far as possible from this kind of thing. because,They attack you from the side of your under deep conciousness and almost impossible to defend yourself if you are not trained.
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Anyway, what i recommend to everybody is: Better stay away as far as possible from this kind of thing. because,They attack you from the side of your under deep conciousness and almost impossible to defend yourself if you are not trained.
Have you felt spirits in your meditation practices kyomu? I meditate as well problem in meditation sometimes you confuse reality with your past experiences.
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I saw this from someone else that posted it. Guess what time 2:00 to 4:30 those hours as said before are linked more to paranormal alot more than other hours.
Wow a bug in front of the camera, insects CAN set off IR sensors, the security guy in the video needs firing..
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Have you felt spirits in your meditation practices kyomu? I meditate as well problem in meditation sometimes you confuse reality with your past experiences.
My meditation is different from other in one point. Unlike Zen, many of taoism meditation need the concentration of Ki de Yang in whole body . So its almost impossible to feel the spirit during the taoism meditation. Because most of those spirits belong to Ying(most of spirits cant show up in Yang circumstance).
Before starting and reaching a good level of my taoism training, I had numerous serious problems from those beings. Sucks a lot.
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Dude has many great vids - he seems to be the most sensible and educated on such subjects.
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My meditation is different from other in one point. Unlike Zen, many of taoism meditation need the concentration of Ki de Yang in whole body . So its almost impossible to feel the spirit during the taoism meditation. Because most of those spirits belong to Ying(most of spirits cant show up in Yang circumstance).
Before starting and reaching a good level of my taoism training, I had numerous serious problems from those beings. Sucks a lot.
Interesting I do Zen Meditation. So I think the Yang represents the male aggressive spirit is that true?
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some great work on here by syntax, army of one, sf1900 amongst others
I think ghosts are amazing
despite dying before cctv they are all careful to not get picked up on a form of technology that wasn't invented. quite why they are so happy to present themselves to numerous people they don't want the telly fame.
good on them I say
they could end this debate once and for all but out of some respect for the rules of ghosting they choose not to.
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I meditate and have been for a decade. Twenty minutes of stillness is very refreshing.
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Wow a bug in front of the camera, insects CAN set off IR sensors, the security guy in the video needs firing..
No bro, that was clearly footage of an ethereal, Buddha-hating entity getting in a workout before hitting Groink's girlfriend's place.
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Team Cupcakin' Lollipoppin' 4 Life!
THE BEEF
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I meditate and have been for a decade. Twenty minutes of stillness is very refreshing.
True.
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Ghosts are similar to true love. So many talk about both or claim to have seen or felt them. But in reality few, if any, actually have.
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Ghosts are similar to true love. So many talk about both or claim to have seen or felt them. But in reality few, if any, actually have.
Very true, but I have and have even recorded an EVP of me asking a question and a little girl answering. I have a lot of security video footage of orbs flying around and some apparitions. For those who never truly experience anything I would be like them and never believe it.
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Very true, but I have and have even recorded an EVP of me asking a question and a little girl answering. I have a lot of security video footage of orbs flying around and some apparitions. For those who never truly experience anything I would be like them and never believe it.
Well said. Faith does not come in one belief, be it in God, angels, gods, ghosts or yes, true love. I have seen some things that boggled my puny little mind. Only those present with me at the time are capable of truly believing what we saw was real and I would never expect others to do so.
Blind faith is useless. One needs to see if you will, from within. The heart? Maybe. The soul? Perhaps. You cannot make a leap of faith in two jumps.
Again, well said for all concerned.
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Interesting I do Zen Meditation. So I think the Yang represents the male aggressive spirit is that true?
You can clasfy everything as ying and yang. But this time we are talking about the quality of ki of ghost, so, all the harmful or weak spirit belong to ying type. I dont know the reason. But when we feel their existance, we do feel cold.
And also thats the reason why they always show up between 22:00 - 2:00. Thats the peek of ying term.
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Superstitious bullshit. No wonder we had to nuke you loonies.
Ghost are not superstition nor religious thing. Just electromagnetic stuff. Just many way to explain.
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Ever noticed that all ghosts are White? Yeah, it looks like a good afterlife, doesn't it.
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Thats the ghost of Olympia Pre-Contest Past. Gots to get my 2:00am cardio in bitches...
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Don't forget that it's between 22:00 - 2:00 that is the peak of ying term.
That's why it's more common at these hours.
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Don't forget that it's between 22:00 - 2:00 that is the peak of ying term.
That's why it's more common at these hours.
I did not know that but it makes sense. About all of the security video I have is between that time. Hmmm.
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I did not know that but it makes sense. About all of the security video I have is between that time. Hmmm.
Yep it seems always during these hours weird shit happens.
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Yep it seems always during these hours weird shit happens.
Seeing this thread I got out the old CD's with the video footage on it this weekend. It made me feel very happy that I do not work in that building any longer.
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Ive had 2 experiences of my own , and i would personally call bullshit on anyone telling me the stories ive told other people. Dont really think anyone believes me no matter how much i insist, so i wouldnt expect people on the internet to give a shit either lol But my opinion is, everyone should have an open mind as this was real :)
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Ive had 2 experiences of my own , and i would personally call bullshit on anyone telling me the stories ive told other people. Dont really think anyone believes me no matter how much i insist, so i wouldnt expect people on the internet to give a shit either lol But my opinion is, everyone should have an open mind as this was real :)
I for one would like to hear your experiences if you care to post. Or PM them.
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Although these murders did occur. I thought the same person that said the Ammtyville House was haunted came back later and said he made up the whole thing just to get money?
Here's a story for you.... On the first week I moved into my new house back in Egypt.... I was thirsty one night, so I got out of bed, my wife was still sleeping.... I went downstairs, and headed to the kitchen... I kept all the lights off, got a glass of water, then I walked into the living room for one reason or another to grab something (can't remember what - this was 7 years ago).... all the lights are still off.... as I walk through the darkness, I pass the dinning room, I saw something that literally scared the shit out of me....scared me so much I fell backwards and spilled water all over myself......... It was this scary ass massive Arab staring right at me in the darkness....
Then I realized that I had totally forgotten there was a mirror in there - I just lay there on the floor laughing my ass off!!!!
- true story!
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Ive had 2 experiences of my own , and i would personally call bullshit on anyone telling me the stories ive told other people. Dont really think anyone believes me no matter how much i insist, so i wouldnt expect people on the internet to give a shit either lol But my opinion is, everyone should have an open mind as this was real :)
Do tell!
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Although these murders did occur. I thought the same person that said the Ammtyville House was haunted came back later and said he made up the whole thing just to get money?
Here's a story for you.... On the first week I moved into my new house back in Egypt.... I was thirsty one night, so I got out of bed, my wife was still sleeping.... I went downstairs, and headed to the kitchen... I kept all the lights off, got a glass of water, then I walked into the living room for one reason or another to grab something (can't remember what - this was 7 years ago).... all the lights are still off.... as I walk through the darkness, I pass the dinning room, I saw something that literally scared the shit out of me....scared me so much I fell backwards and spilled water all over myself......... It was this scary ass massive Arab staring right at me in the darkness....
Then I realized that I had totally forgotten there was a mirror in there - I just lay there on the floor laughing my ass off!!!!
- true story!
LOL seeing your on self scared you.
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Seeing this thread I got out the old CD's with the video footage on it this weekend. It made me feel very happy that I do not work in that building any longer.
What happened in the building?
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What happened in the building?
It would take forever to tell you everything. This warehouse was completely saturated with spirits. Nearly every night I would capture some sort of paranormal activity. Orbs flying around, apparitions, voices, EVPs captured, doors opening and closing on their own right in front of people. I have seen full body apparitions walk right next to me. I could take a picture just about any day and pick up orbs or figures in 3/4 the pictures. I also brought some of that shit home. Both my daughter and myself have been pulled from our beds, me on 2 different occasions. I have had large orbs fly around my bed while I laid there watching TV fully awake. You name it. I expect most to call bullshit, which is fine. Unless you experience to the level I have and others have it really is impossible to believe. It is nice to have the EVPs recorded and some of the video and pictures.
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It would take forever to tell you everything. This warehouse was completely saturated with spirits. Nearly every night I would capture some sort of paranormal activity. Orbs flying around, apparitions, voices, EVPs captured, doors opening and closing on their own right in front of people. I have seen full body apparitions walk right next to me. I could take a picture just about any day and pick up orbs or figures in 3/4 the pictures. I also brought some of that shit home. Both my daughter and myself have been pulled from our beds, me on 2 different occasions. I have had large orbs fly around my bed while I laid there watching TV fully awake. You name it. I expect most to call bullshit, which is fine. Unless you experience to the level I have and others have it really is impossible to believe. It is nice to have the EVPs recorded and some of the video and pictures.
Who resided there? Deaths, murders? The history of the place?
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There's too much stupid to counteract here. All rational human beings: I think it's time to issue a tactical withdrawal from the thread. Then we can just laugh at them.
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There's too much stupid to counteract here. All rational human beings: I think it's time to issue a tactical withdrawal from the thread. Then we can just laugh at them.
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Who resided there? Deaths, murders? The history of the place?
I had the landlord of property do some research. I do not know of any murders or anything but I saw a picture of a farm house that sat on the spot. The picture was from 1946. I had Indiana paranormal investigate and also had 2 different psychics come and walk the place. Both psychics said the place was a portal for the paranormal. That many come and go. But everyone from Ind paranormal and the 2 psychics said that the ones that are there long term is an old man and a little girl. The little girl I have on an EVP, the old guy I believe is one of the apparitions I have captured on the security video. I don't know about the whole portal business. I only take into consideration what I have witnessed and filmed.
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There's too much stupid to counteract here. All rational human beings: I think it's time to issue a tactical withdrawal from the thread. Then we can just laugh at them.
I take no offense to what you say. If I hadn't had the experiences I have had I would feel the eat same way.
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I had the landlord of property do some research. I do not know of any murders or anything but I saw a picture of a farm house that sat on the spot. The picture was from 1946. I had Indiana paranormal investigate and also had 2 different psychics come and walk the place. Both psychics said the place was a portal for the paranormal. That many come and go. But everyone from Ind paranormal and the 2 psychics said that the ones that are there long term is an old man and a little girl. The little girl I have on an EVP, the old guy I believe is one of the apparitions I have captured on the security video. I don't know about the whole portal business. I only take into consideration what I have witnessed and filmed.
Some weird stuff dude I would not be able to sleep after all that, have this spirits visted your place you live asking because checking if the are following you around.
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Read my post on page one, it has some instances of what happens here.
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Lots of scared ladyboys in this thread.
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Some weird stuff dude I would not be able to sleep after all that, have this spirits visted your place you live asking because checking if the are following you around.
My GF thinks thats how her house got haunted in the first place. When she was house shopping, she went into a townhouse and immediately felt a strong presence and just left the house ....without even taking the tour, the real estate lady was like "WTF"...And she wound up taking a place the next block over. You can see that house from her house. And she thinks tha, because when crazy shit started happening, she researched her own house, found nothing.....and remembered that freaky feeling and researched that house...and a teenage girl hung herself in that house.she thinks the spirit or whatever liked her and followed her. Makes sense because me and her daughter constantly "fell" down the stairs. I have stairs in my house and i never slip and fall. It never happened to my GF..not once.
Yup, sounds like made-up bullshit....all 100% true.
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My GF thinks thats how her house got haunted in the first place. When she was house shopping, she went into a townhouse and immediately felt a strong presence and just left the house ....without even taking the tour, the real estate lady was like "WTF"...And she wound up taking a place the next block over. You can see that house from her house. And she thinks tha, because when crazy shit started happening, she researched her own house, found nothing.....and remembered that freaky feeling and researched that house...and a teenage girl hung herself in that house.she thinks the spirit or whatever liked her and followed her. Makes sense because me and her daughter constantly "fell" down the stairs. I have stairs in my house and i never slip and fall. It never happened to my GF..not once.
Yup, sounds like made-up bullshit....all 100% true.
Those stairs in that house seem as evil, where you heard someone walking once and then the falling with your daughter. Yes The hanging girl is a spirit try to return, I think I posted here I moved to to a house not knowing after I moved in someone told me a guy hung himself on the the back porch. I always felt strange there never slept much this girl across the hall invited me over we had sex, thing is I never saw her leave the house a very weird place I got the hell out.
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My GF thinks thats how her house got haunted in the first place. When she was house shopping, she went into a townhouse and immediately felt a strong presence and just left the house ....without even taking the tour, the real estate lady was like "WTF"...And she wound up taking a place the next block over. You can see that house from her house. And she thinks tha, because when crazy shit started happening, she researched her own house, found nothing.....and remembered that freaky feeling and researched that house...and a teenage girl hung herself in that house.she thinks the spirit or whatever liked her and followed her. Makes sense because me and her daughter constantly "fell" down the stairs. I have stairs in my house and i never slip and fall. It never happened to my GF..not once.
Yup, sounds like made-up bullshit....all 100% true.
That is fucked up. We have been physically touched many, many times but nothing that could lead to harm. Has your GF tried to get an EVP?
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I am sitting here it's 12:35 am my printer just starts printing I did not hit print on any application see shit like that intrigues me. It was a pic of a old ex girl friend, strange I have been thinking of her today.
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So the question is.... if you were offered a house at a good price but you were told ahead of time that there was some grizzly murder that took place in it, would you buy it?
I used to always say "yeah for sure" - but as I get older now, I dunno anymore lol - plus this thread isn't helping!
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So the question is.... if you were offered a house at a good price but you were told ahead of time that there was some grizzly murder that took place in it, would you buy it?
I used to always say "yeah for sure" - but as I get older now, I dunno anymore lol - plus this thread isn't helping!
No I already been in a house where a dude hung himself some weird shit going on never again.
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No I already been in a house where a dude hung himself some weird shit going on never again.
So you think you boned a ghost Mr N ?
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So you think you boned a ghost Mr N ?
And tiiiiiiiiiiiime goooooooessss by...... sooooooooo slooooooowwlllllyyyyyy!
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So you think you boned a ghost Mr N ?
I'm not sure that girl next door was weird I did do her as said I never saw her leave that house strange.
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I do.
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Fuck you guys and fuck this thread.... I had trouble sleeping last night!
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So the question is.... if you were offered a house at a good price but you were told ahead of time that there was some grizzly murder that took place in it, would you buy it?
I used to always say "yeah for sure" - but as I get older now, I dunno anymore lol - plus this thread isn't helping!
My uncle purchased a home in the country where the previous owner(elderly man) got murdered-butchered in the living room. Needless to say, my uncle got an incredible deal on the house. When I would visit him, he would have me stay in a guest bedroom... the door to this bedroom faced the exact spot where the man was butchered. It scared the shit out of me. Every time I would wake up to use the bathroom, Id walk out of the bedroom with my head down and my eyes closed so I wouldnt see anything. Never felt comfortable in that house. No matter how cheap a death-home is listed, I just couldnt buy it.
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My uncle purchased a home in the country where the previous owner(elderly man) got murdered-butchered in the living room. Needless to say, my uncle got an incredible deal on the house. When I would visit him, he would have me stay in a guest bedroom... the door to this bedroom faced the exact spot where the man was butchered. It scared the shit out of me. Every time I would wake up to use the bathroom, Id walk out of the bedroom with my head down and my eyes closed so I wouldnt see anything. Never felt comfortable in that house. No matter how cheap a death-home is listed, I just couldnt buy it.
Yes its a feeling you have, although you may not see anything it's there. I think when the spirits are around you feel these things but may not see them.
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I like how all ghost stories are usually told 3rd hand, unless on a forum where people can't be called on them.But a better question is why a spirit would linger in a home?Why not go to other homes and check out hot 18yr olds in the shower?and why don't ants, badgers, bears etc have ghosts too?
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This is a true story, I pride myself on being logical and pretty skeptical, perhaps to a fault.
However, when I was a kid my family moved into a new house for us but an old house in reality. It was a really old Victorian style house and quite beautiful. When I was a kid I always felt odd in certain areas, namely the bathroom I would run away from there after pissing shitting, as I felt someone was always behind me, like someone was looking at me. My little brother had a couple of issues, deaf and had a minor global delay. His behaviour changed drastically when we lived there. He became mute almost, never talking almost like a retard depression. He claimed he could not sleep because he could feel someone breathing on him, or blowing on him at night. As the months wore on he became more withdrawn and said that he couldn't sleep often opting to sleep with my mom most nights. He said that "they" wouldn't bother him with others around. Now keep in mind he was globally delayed and lived in a fantasy world, played dinkies like it was his job so no one took him serious. We started noticing that he would pretend play as if someone else was there, often leaving his toys set up as if two people were participating, again I know it is probably normal, but quite odd as imaginative play is almost nill in these people, they can't imagine things. Anyway after a couple years he continued his decline, started having multiple unexplained marks on his body etc. He become somewhat violent and aggressive, a normal progression. however, one night he was bathing and seemed a bit, I don't know, scared, quiet and odd. Too much time had gone by and my mom checked the bath, and there was my brother dead, he drowned, in the bathroom I always felt unsafe in. No bath water on the floor, just laying flat on the bottom eyes open. Now he did have seizures because of his issues so that's possible, but that's when really weird shit occurred. I would hear giggling come from his room and his almost groan like ughhh he would do when happy. One night I heard an audible gurgle coming from his room. I went in the dinkies were set up for two, but no one had been there for a while. I then heard the same shit coming from his closet. I was too freaked out to check at first but it persisted.. I opened the door your moms a whore go do your chores.
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This is a true story, I pride myself on being logical and pretty skeptical, perhaps to a fault.
However, when I was a kid my family moved into a new house for us but an old house in reality. It was a really old Victorian style house and quite beautiful. When I was a kid I always felt odd in certain areas, namely the bathroom I would run away from there after pissing shitting, as I felt someone was always behind me, like someone was looking at me. My little brother had a couple of issues, deaf and had a minor global delay. His behaviour changed drastically when we lived there. He became mute almost, never talking almost like a retard depression. He claimed he could not sleep because he could feel someone breathing on him, or blowing on him at night. As the months wore on he became more withdrawn and said that he couldn't sleep often opting to sleep with my mom most nights. He said that "they" wouldn't bother him with others around. Now keep in mind he was globally delayed and lived in a fantasy world, played dinkies like it was his job so no one took him serious. We started noticing that he would pretend play as if someone else was there, often leaving his toys set up as if two people were participating, again I know it is probably normal, but quite odd as imaginative play is almost nill in these people, they can't imagine things. Anyway after a couple years he continued his decline, started having multiple unexplained marks on his body etc. He become somewhat violent and aggressive, a normal progression. however, one night he was bathing and seemed a bit, I don't know, scared, quiet and odd. Too much time had gone by and my mom checked the bath, and there was my brother dead, he drowned, in the bathroom I always felt unsafe in. No bath water on the floor, just laying flat on the bottom eyes open. Now he did have seizures because of his issues so that's possible, but that's when really weird shit occurred. I would hear giggling come from his room and his almost groan like ughhh he would do when happy. One night I heard an audible gurgle coming from his room. I went in the dinkies were set up for two, but no one had been there for a while. I then heard the same shit coming from his closet. I was too freaked out to check at first but it persisted.. I opened the door your moms a whore go do your chores.
Dude I am sorry for the loss of you brother. That had to effect you tremendously. Seems he got possessed by evil spirits.
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Sheeeeeit...raining upside down? He'll No...that wine box thing would have been scary as hell.
There was one, where apparently this woman kept seeing yellow eyes outside her house (in the middle of no where). She called the police and her husband, and nobody saw the person. Finally one day her husband was backing up, and saw the thing and got out. Saw that it had been on the roof. He and friend got some guns and tracked it (big ass tracks) to a shack in the woods. Well. They found out who lived in the shack, and they went to town, to get a tire changed and it was a tall lanky dude with yellow.
Anyways, one day he died, and they went to his shack. In the back of the shack was a huge steel/riveted room with huge as chains and shackles attached to the walls. And scratch marks all over the place...like the steel was scratched...They didn't want to say the word that they all thought...
Yep. I saw that one, Parker.
They thought werewolf.
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Yep. I saw that one, Parker.
They thought werewolf.
I think that the man may have thought he was a monster...a man transforming into a werewolf? One changing one's DNA to a man-wolf hybrid...way beyond logic.
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This is a true story, I pride myself on being logical and pretty skeptical, perhaps to a fault.
However, when I was a kid my family moved into a new house for us but an old house in reality. It was a really old Victorian style house and quite beautiful. When I was a kid I always felt odd in certain areas, namely the bathroom I would run away from there after pissing shitting, as I felt someone was always behind me, like someone was looking at me. My little brother had a couple of issues, deaf and had a minor global delay. His behaviour changed drastically when we lived there. He became mute almost, never talking almost like a retard depression. He claimed he could not sleep because he could feel someone breathing on him, or blowing on him at night. As the months wore on he became more withdrawn and said that he couldn't sleep often opting to sleep with my mom most nights. He said that "they" wouldn't bother him with others around. Now keep in mind he was globally delayed and lived in a fantasy world, played dinkies like it was his job so no one took him serious. We started noticing that he would pretend play as if someone else was there, often leaving his toys set up as if two people were participating, again I know it is probably normal, but quite odd as imaginative play is almost nill in these people, they can't imagine things. Anyway after a couple years he continued his decline, started having multiple unexplained marks on his body etc. He become somewhat violent and aggressive, a normal progression. however, one night he was bathing and seemed a bit, I don't know, scared, quiet and odd. Too much time had gone by and my mom checked the bath, and there was my brother dead, he drowned, in the bathroom I always felt unsafe in. No bath water on the floor, just laying flat on the bottom eyes open. Now he did have seizures because of his issues so that's possible, but that's when really weird shit occurred. I would hear giggling come from his room and his almost groan like ughhh he would do when happy. One night I heard an audible gurgle coming from his room. I went in the dinkies were set up for two, but no one had been there for a while. I then heard the same shit coming from his closet. I was too freaked out to check at first but it persisted.. I opened the door your moms a whore go do your chores.
That psycho son of a bitch(Ok. Most of them are) should be tortured and not only exorcised but also terminated. If he was my family, i would go there tonight and i would do it.
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Dude I am sorry for the loss of you brother. That had to effect you tremendously. Seems he got possessed by evil spirits.
Ya one night he was levitating and ice cream came from his bum.
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Once rented a house that was "haunted" many years ago. Fortunately, nothing bad ever happened. Must have been haunted by good folks and not evil doers.
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Once rented a house that was "haunted" many years ago. Fortunately, nothing bad ever happened. Must have been haunted by good folks and not evil doers.
ya that sounds like the most plausible conclusion.
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Let me open a can of worms. Any people here devout christians? Do you still believe in ghosts?
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Not me not sure in what I believe in something controls the world.
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Let me open a can of worms. Any people here devout christians? Do you still believe in ghosts?
Devout does not describe my views on religion. I am not a lamb.
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Devout does not describe my views on religion. I am not a lamb.
What are your views on religion?
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What are your views on religion?
For the most part, I see organized religion as negative. So many wars have been fought and millions of people have died in the name of religions, how can they be a good thing. IMO many people use religion as a crutch. While conducting their lives with seemingly little regard for their fellow human beings and often "sinning" or acting against the teachings of their religious icons they convince themselves all is good as long as they go to church or it's equivalent occasionally or even just pray to be better.
I am not sure I believe in God. If I do, it is as a universal intelligence. If believed in a God, he or she would only manifest good and positive energy. All the negativity in the world comes from us humans and not from God. People would benefit if they stopped blaming God when things go wrong and rather look to themselves.
There is much more to why I believe as I do, but this isn't the place for a novel. I spent time attending Science of the Mind services both when I was a kid and as an adult. This is a metaphysical religion founded by Earnest Holmes in 1927. Science of the Mind meetings or services welcome and embrace all people, regardless of their religious leanings.
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For the most part, I see organized religion as negative. So many wars have been fought and millions of people have died in the name of religions, how can they be a good thing. IMO many people use religion as a crutch. While conducting their lives with seemingly little regard for their fellow human beings and often "sinning" or acting against the teachings of their religious icons they convince themselves all is good as long as they go to church or it's equivalent occasionally or even just pray to be better.
I am not sure I believe in God. If I do, it is as a universal intelligence. If believed in a God, he or she would only manifest good and positive energy. All the negativity in the world comes from us humans and not from God. People would benefit if they stopped blaming God when things go wrong and rather look to themselves.
There is much more to why I believe as I do, but this isn't the place for a novel. I spent time attending Science of the Mind services both when I was a kid and as an adult. This is a metaphysical religion founded by Earnest Holmes in 1927. Science of the Mind meetings or services welcome and embrace all people, regardless of their religious leanings.
I totally agree with you. Not sure in what I believe in, but I am not religious. Now as you I believe in a universal intelligence. Now Karma plays in I think if you do wrong things, wrong things will come back to you. Sounds a bit like Scientology Tom Cruise a long time supporter not sure if I believe in that either. I meditate and pretty much believe in nothingness that is what mediation teaches you. Kyomu and I talk about it some he is a Tao I am Zen.
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I totally agree with you. Not sure in what I believe in, but I am not religious. Now as you I believe in a universal intelligence. Now Karma plays in I think if you do wrong things, wrong things will come back to you. Sounds a bit like Scientology Tom Cruise a long time supporter not sure if I believe in that either. I meditate and pretty much believe in nothingness that is what mediation teaches you. Kyomu and I talk about it some he is a Tao I am Zen.
I am kind of hyper. I have not tried meditating. Guess I fear that I would not be able to concentrate as I suspect one should. My mind is always going in 20 directions at once. If I should decide to try this, I will need to find a knowledgeable mentor/teacher. I believe in Karma too but I also think it works because one believes in it. Sometimes bad things happen to good people and vice versa.
Scientology is scary, IMO. It seems like mind control to me. I have probably read too much negative stuff about Scientology and their practices. Tom Cruise is not a shining example of someone I would hold in high esteem. I worked with a fellow who was a Scientologist once a long time ago. He was always trying to recruit me. The problem with him was that he was just plain weird, which may have had nothing to do with his being a Scientologist, but I wasn't impressed by the things he had to say either way.
People take from any religion what they choose regardless of whether it is what is being taught or not. Science of Mind teaches about the power of believing. The problem is some people think they can use that power for personal rather then spiritual gain, which is not what it is all about. My stepdad was like that in a way. Everything with him was about monetary gain. He thought if he could believe hard enough, he'd become a wealthy person. He found out otherwise. I think that was a major disappointment for him.
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I am kind of hyper. I have not tried meditating. Guess I fear that I would not be able to concentrate as I suspect one should. My mind is always going in 20 directions at once. If I should decide to try this, I will need to find a knowledgeable mentor/teacher. I believe in Karma too but I also think it works because one believes in it. Sometimes bad things happen to good people and vice versa.
Scientology is scary, IMO. It seems like mind control to me. I have probably read too much negative stuff about Scientology and their practices. Tom Cruise is not a shining example of someone I would hold in high esteem. I worked with a fellow who was a Scientologist once a long time ago. He was always trying to recruit me. The problem with him was that he was just plain weird, which may have had nothing to do with his being a Scientologist, but I wasn't impressed by the things he had to say either way.
People take from any religion what they choose regardless of whether it is what is being taught or not. Science of Mind teaches about the power of believing. The problem is some people think they can use that power for personal rather then spiritual gain, which is not what it is all about. My stepdad was like that in a way. Everything with him was about monetary gain. He thought if he could believe hard enough, he'd become a wealthy person. He found out otherwise. I think that was a major disappointment for him.
Well that's what meditation teaches "Be still and know". It very tough at first especially if you are hyper. My dad was all about money but died penniless. another strange thing I wokw up early today and go piss then I hear music playing like jazz I did not have a tv or radio on and no cars outside playing music. Just weird.
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Elvis died on my birthday Aug.16 my dad looked alot like him and he enjoyed his music. A bit strange.
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Well that's what meditation teaches "Be still and know". It very tough at first especially if you are hyper. My dad was all about money but died penniless. another strange thing I wokw up early today and go piss then I hear music playing like jazz I did not have a tv or radio on and no cars outside playing music. Just weird.
Do you enjoy jazz? Did you go back to bed or did you stay up, once up. How long did the music play?
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Elvis died on my birthday Aug.16 my dad looked alot like him and he enjoyed his music. A bit strange.
Guess your a lion then. I am a virgin since my birthday in on August 28.
There are natural occurrences that we assign special meanings to, such as your birthday, Elvis' passing and the fact that you think a lot about your dad and he enjoyed Elvis' music. ESP is an amazing tool that most humans have lost the ability to use. Dogs and other animals retain their natural extrasensory abilities better than most humans do. Our extrasensory perception is most active when we are very young.
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Do you enjoy jazz? Did you go back to bed or did you stay up, once up. How long did the music play?
Just around 5 minutes, I stayed up awhile to see if it would come back left everything off it didnt come back weird as hell. I admire your tenacity to stay with the Iron game at your age. ( no homo).
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Just around 5 minutes, I stayed up awhile to see if it would come back left everything off it didnt come back weird as hell. I admire your tenacity to stay with the Iron game at your age. ( no homo).
Maybe the trick is to never get out of the game. Over the years, I have geared up and geared down my workouts, but I have never abandoned them completely. Narcissism coupled with being a control freak are powerful tools if you use them to your advantage. Of course besides looking more fit, there is always being more fit then the next person as inspiration.
Just laid out in the sun for an hour in my back yard. It felt great to have the sun beating down on me. I haven't taken the time to do that in awhile. I am out of speed tans at the gym right now. It makes little sense to pay $80 to $100 for 20 sessions when I can lay out in the back yard for free. Heck, I may even head to the river tomorrow and/or Sunday.
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Maybe the trick is to never get out of the game. Over the years, I have geared up and geared down my workouts, but I have never abandoned them completely. Narcissism coupled with being a control freak are powerful tools if you use them to your advantage. Of course besides looking more fit, there is always being more fit then the next person as inspiration.
Just laid out in the sun for an hour in my back yard. It felt great to have the sun beating down on me. I haven't taken the time to do that in awhile. I am out of speed tans at the gym right now. It makes little sense to pay $80 to $100 for 20 sessions when I can lay out in the back yard for free. Heck, I may even head to the river tomorrow and/or Sunday.
You remind me of Jack King a older Bodybuilder in my town he was like late 60's when I met him still owns a gym here. First time I met him he was laying in the sun we later went on to enter BB contests he had alot of knowledge and was a great poser. The Showstoppa knows hims as well he trained there he was sorta of like Vince Gironda if you didnt like him or his gym he would tell you get the hell out. I hate tanning beds, Vit-D from the sun is best.
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You remind me of Jack King a older Bodybuilder in my town he was like late 60's when I met him still owns a gym here. First time I met him he was laying in the sun we later went on to enter BB contests he had alot of knowledge and was a great poser. The Showstoppa knows hims as well he trained there he was sorta of like Vince Gironda if you didnt like him or his gym he would tell you get the hell out. I hate tanning beds, Vit-D from the sun is best.
Thank you. You flatter me though. I am older and I have lifted all my adult life, like your friend. To be honest, I have never taken bodybuilding to a personal level that would justify my entering BB contests, although I have considered that being a somewhat advanced senior, I might have a chance of placing if I properly prepared and was that dedicated. I have no idea how to pose. I never tried it, to be honest.
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Thank you. You flatter me though. I am older and I have lifted all my adult life, like your friend. To be honest, I have never taken bodybuilding to a personal level that would justify my entering BB contests, although I have considered that being a somewhat advanced senior, I might have a chance of placing if I properly prepared and was that dedicated. I have no idea how to pose. I never tried it, to be honest.
There are 7 mandatory poses these are normally looked at in pre-judging where the contest is decided. The night is much just for the crowd. Just looking you could probably win you age group go for it!
Quarter Turns
Front Double Biceps
Rear Double Biceps
Front Lat Spread
Rear Lat Spread
Side Triceps
Side Chest
Front Abdominal & Thigh
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There are 7 mandatory poses these are normally looked at in pre-judging where the contest is decided. The night is much just for the crowd. Just looking you could probably win you age group go for it!
Quarter Turns
Front Double Biceps
Rear Double Biceps
Front Lat Spread
Rear Lat Spread
Side Triceps
Side Chest
Front Abdominal & Thigh
Nah, I'd have to buy a thong. :)
Okay, we will see. I guess one should never say never. I'd have to diet down a bit and there are some areas that need work too. Then there is dusting the plastic trophy, like you said.