ive got more veins on the front of my left quad or running down my right bicep then he has in his whole body,,,,and i dont eve compete im just a gym rat who isn't even on tren now,,and you guys call him a bodybuilder? he weigh 160 and not 1 vein showing,,,he is a failure,,,a bodybuilder who drugged himself dead before 23 and never achieved 1 vein or impressive size,,not very impressive to me lol