Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers

[mesmorph78]

I've been watching videos of
JM PRESSES
and
TATE PRESSES
Powerlifting exercises for tris
Has anybody tried these if so do you find them effective??

[mesmorph78]

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[DK II]

Dude, nobody here is as advanced as you, we all need steroids and are much weaker than you.

Answer the question yourself.

[Stavios]

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I would help but since I started using No One's advice of training arms strictly with cables my arms are bigger than ever

so no presses for me exept for chest

[CT_Muscle]

I would help but since I started using No One's advice of training arms strictly with cables my arms are bigger than ever

so no presses for me exept for chest

What is a sample routine u do with all cables?

[mesmorph78]

I would help but since I started using No One's advice of training arms strictly with cables my arms are bigger than ever

so no presses for me exept for chest

All cables .. Interesting concept ... Don't know if that would work for me though
What would such a routine look like?

[Stavios]

Ok well I train arms after a big bodypart (like a few sets of triceps after chest and a few sets of biceps after back) Those are straight sets like 8 sets of cable pushdown 6-8 reps each then I am out of there

but once a week, I have a "arm day" where I do a giant sets of 5 exercice for the biceps, I do it 5 times

and same for triceps after that.

(when I say cable, I can also include some machines in that)

for example:

triceps would go like this

1- cable pushdown
2-reverse grip pushdown
3-cable pushdown
4-tricep extension with the machine (also a cable shit)
5- dip machine

first sets are 15, then 12, then 10, then 8, then 6

I know it seems like a homo workout but my arms grow more by doing this then it grows from heavy barbell curls

( I think because I have long arms and my shoulders are strong, my arms don't get involved enough with barbell and dumbell and I maybe tend to swing to much no matter how I do them)

[BB]

Yes, done both, find both effective, but like the Tate Press a bit more. I find the Tate worked better for adding mass and was easier to set up and felt more natural. The JM was better for moving up actual press numbers. Helped me a lot with adding a bit of snap to it.

Tate Press-

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JM Press-

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The man it's name after explains it about 4:50 in on this clip-

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[cswol]

for some reason, my philosophy on arms, i always respond better if i do a tricep movement, and follow it up with a bicep movement, i feel it puts more blood in the arm, a full circle, and it allows you to be more diverse in your training..........instea d of hammering out all tricep lifts, then going to bicep lifts

[Stavios]

for some reason, my philosophy on arms, i always respond better if i do a tricep movement, and follow it up with a bicep movement, i feel it puts more blood in the arm, a full circle, and it allows you to be more diverse in your training..........instea d of hammering out all tricep lifts, then going to bicep lifts

I  like doing both

I get more sore if I train one after the other tho

[StanZoLOL]

an extension is an extension is an extension... try the Tates and JM and see if you like em. If so rotate them in.

[jpm101]

Agree with SZLOL. Also find Tate's are best done one arm at a time and trying to touch the opposite side of the chest, for a slightly different angle, than what was shown in the video. Might try both versions to see what works the best for you, two or one arm.

JM's are really difficult for so many guy's, winding up being closer to a close grip press than an actual JM. If you can master it, without it becoming a press, than more power to you. Good luck.

[nosleep]

JM PRESSES WITH PALMS FACING EACH OTHER...

DO IT ON THE FLOOR, SO YOUR END POSITION SHOULD BE ABOTU 3-5 INCHES ABOVE CHEST...

I DO THESE AND CLOSE GRIP WEIGHTED DIPS AS MY ONLY TRICEP EXERCISE...

GOT IT FROM A PRO...TAKE IT FOR WHAT ITS WORTH.

[DK II]

JM PRESSES WITH PALMS FACING EACH OTHER...

DO IT ON THE FLOOR, SO YOUR END POSITION SHOULD BE ABOTU 3-5 INCHES ABOVE CHEST...

I DO THESE AND CLOSE GRIP WEIGHTED DIPS AS MY ONLY TRICEP EXERCISE...

GOT IT FROM A PRO...TAKE IT FOR WHAT ITS WORTH.

[PJim]

As long as you get an extension and a press movement in there, you are adaquately working the tris. I like to do overhead extensions with a rope or dumbbell followed up with close grip dips.

[mesmorph78]

great info guys
ill try the tate presses today
my main question is does it give good gains
i find my tris are extremely strong and it takes a lot my  to break them down and i get used to excercises quite easilyI just want a main meat and potato excercise that packs on the mass.
i find dips and cgb hit my chest which is already very developed, skulls are good but once you start going heavy they bother the elbows

[PJim]

great info guys
ill try the tate presses today
my main question is does it give good gains
i find my tris are extremely strong and it takes a lot my  to break them down and i get used to excercises quite easilyI just want a main meat and potato excercise that packs on the mass.
i find dips and cgb hit my chest which is already very developed, skulls are good but once you start going heavy they bother the elbows

Do you ever do an extension movement straight into a close grip dip, pre-exhaust fashion? Great technique to get the benefit of the strength of your chest but isolate the tricep primarily and make it work.

[Dr Dutch]

Just turn your Thigh-Master 180 degrees...

[mesmorph78]

Do you ever do an extension movement straight into a close grip dip, pre-exhaust fashion? Great technique to get the benefit of the strength of your chest but isolate the tricep primarily and make it work.

yeah i do do that sometimes gives a great pump but lets say I do 10 to 12 reps then straight into presses , thats 20 reps minimum i dont think that rep range is the optimum for building mass

[Meso_z]

for some reason, my philosophy on arms, i always respond better if i do a tricep movement, and follow it up with a bicep movement, i feel it puts more blood in the arm, a full circle, and it allows you to be more diverse in your training..........instea d of hammering out all tricep lifts, then going to bicep lifts

Phil Heath trains them always this way..from his videos, he also explains why.

I trained my arms this way when i stared training..i have to train them since then with this style. Maybe I should start again.

[Meso_z]

As far as cable movements..Palumbo recommends to train arms with cables and only.

[Parker]

  

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[DK II]

that's not mesmprph.

[StanZoLOL]

 

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lol everything that kid does, the form is awful.

[Parker]

lol everything that kid does, the form is awful.

105's?
Ego, I tell you...