Let us speak frankly.
Converted Christians, Buddhists and of any religion, cult or sect all say exactly the same things.
There are also Christian converts from Islam, Buddhism and any other religion.
French rapper stuns fans with Islam and hijab
by Ramdane Belamri
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Amid a nationwide debate in France surrounding attitudes towards the Islamic veil, or hijab, a French rapper has surprised fans by announcing her conversion to Islam and choosing to wear a headscarf.
Mélanie Georgiades, known as Diam’s, has gone through what onlookers have described as a “complete transformation” from an image she had prior to 2009.
Since 2009, Diam’s had been unusually absent from the mainstream rap scene, prompting more than three years of controversy over her whereabouts, despite making the odd public appearance with her scarf. But recently the French rapper made her first television appearance with her new image.
Diam’s appeared in an exclusive TV interview with French TV station TF1, to talk about a past experience with drugs, including hallucinating narcotics, and being in a mental asylum until she discovered the “serenity of Islam.” The rapper said the religion was introduced to her by coincidence, when she saw a Muslim friend praying.
Diam’s, said she has been married for over a year and is a now a new mother, moving far away from her drug-relate past.
In her TV interview she said her “conversion to Islam was the result of a personal conviction, after understanding the religion and reading the Holy Quran.”
When asked about wearing the hijab in France, a country which has banned the niqab, she said: “I believe that I live in a tolerant society, and I don’t feel hurt by criticism, but by insults and stereotyping and ready-made judgments.”
Asked by her host about why she is wearing a hijab while many Muslim women don’t wear it, and don’t find it to be a religious obligation, she answered: “I see it as a divine order or a divine advice, this brings joy to my heart and for me this is enough.”
Stardom?
Diam’s said that by converting to Islam she gained comfort, adding that stardom doesn’t fit in with her life anymore, adding “this has warmed my heart, as I know now the purpose of my existence, and why am I here on Earth.”
Diam’s criticized the media which photographed her coming out of one of the mosques in France, wearing her Hijab and looking at her mobile, preceded by a man in a training suit, which many believed to be her husband.
Discussing how her life was like before her conversion to Islam, Diam’s said: “I was very famous and I had what every famous person looks for, but I was always crying bitterly alone at home, and this is what none of my fans had felt.”
She added: “I was heavily addicted to drugs, including hallucinating narcotics and was admitted in mental asylum to recover, but this was in vain until I heard one of my Muslim friends saying ‘I am going to pray for a while and will come back,’ so I told her that I want to pray as well.”
Recalling that moment, Diam’s said: “it was the first time that I touched the floor with head, and I had a strong feeling that I have never experienced before, and I believe now that kneeling in prayer, shouldn’t be done to anyone but Allah.”
Islam, a religion of tolerance
Diam’s said that she moved to Mauritius to read the Quran, and have a better understanding of Islam, discovering during her retreat, the tolerance of Islam.
When asked by her host about her views on Islam, and those who commit all the murders and atrocities pretending to be doing it in the name of religion, she answered: “I think we should differentiate between the ignorant and the knowledgeable, and the ignorant should not speak about what he doesn’t know, Islam does not allow murdering innocent victims the way we see it nowadays.”
But guess which one is the fastest growing, and with the most converts ;)
And the greatest percentage of converts are white university educated females :)
Speaking of white female:
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. You know that every Muslim is the brother of another Muslim. Remember, one day you will appear before Allah and answer for your deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.
"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). (Quran 49:13)
I never understood converting from one religion to any other religion.
Religion is something that is indoctrinated into you from very very young ages... If you decide to stop believing in that which you have been taught to believe... Why would you switch to another religion and all of a sudden believe that one?
Would seem that not believing in any religion would be much more likely.
Yeah... Still don't get it.
I don't get religion at all. I don't get any of it.
That's cute that you're racist and all, I am white and married a brown woman :)
I don't get religion at all. I don't get any of it.
I know some atheists will say that the more they learn about science the more they disbelieve in God. For me on the other hand, the more I learn about how the world works, science, etc... the more I believe in God and indeed it led me to Islam.
I think it's been demonstrated quite conclusively that what you know about science can be summed up in two words: "sai... ens?"
Just because I rejected darwinism and your atheism does not mean I denounce science. I can talk all day long about the human body on a macro and micro level, but still do not accept the theory and belief of darwinism. It is something you personally cling onto because there are only two options. Either the universe is created by God or it magically accidentally happened and the belief in the darwin theory is the best you have.
Just because I rejected darwinism and your atheism does not mean I denounce science.
I can talk all day long about the human body on a macro and micro level, but still do not accept the theory and belief of darwinism.
It is something you personally cling onto because there are only two options. Either the universe is created by God or it magically accidentally happened and the belief in the darwin theory is the best you have.
This is a common claim I hear often from converts and those born into other religions who later start to really study Islam. In '96 I was over at the apartment of one of the girls in my acting class. We ere rehearsing a scene we had to do together, and she had an absolutely breathtakingly beautiful tapestry on her wall, which I asked about it. She said it was a gift from her boyfriend and that it was verses from the Quran. I asked her if she was a Muslim, and she replied that she wasn't, but that her boyfriend was. Then she proceeded to tell me how Islam is not like how it's depicted on TV, and that it was soooo beautiful. I swear she almost started crying as she tried to describe for me the beauty she had found while learning about it. She was REALLY moved to the point of tears
This is a common claim I hear often from converts and those born into other religions who later start to really study Islam. In '96 I was over at the apartment of one of the girls in my acting class. We ere rehearsing a scene we had to do together, and she had an absolutely breathtakingly beautiful tapestry on her wall, which I asked about it. She said it was a gift from her boyfriend and that it was verses from the Quran. I asked her if she was a Muslim, and she replied that she wasn't, but that her boyfriend was. Then she proceeded to tell me how Islam is not like how it's depicted on TV, and that it was soooo beautiful. I swear she almost started crying as she tried to describe for me the beauty she had found while learning about it. She was REALLY moved to the point of tears
IslamAmerican patriotism also moved me to tears when I heard about the atrocitiesMuslimsAmerican soldiers commit in the name of God, country, and spreading democracyalso the way they oppress gays, minorities, and women and the wayIslamthe US government encouragedMuslimsAmericansto despise and hatenonmuslims was very touching, the way they protest in western countries threatening tobeheadarrest, imprison indefinitely, and strip away the constitutional rights of people who don't agree with them is truly beautiful. I was especially moved when I learnt about the uncivilized savages who ran Abu Ghraib and their deep appreciation for terrorism as well as the systematic torture, and rape of innocent men, women, and children drug out of their homes in the middle of the night after having their doors kicked in and how they feel completely justified blowing up innocent people.IslamBlind faith in a treasonous neo-con agenda orchestrated by the craven greed of the military industrial complex is a very touching religion, it moves one similar to a bomb blast triggered by aMuslimlobotomized meat shieldand his/her Suicide Vest.cowardly dropping white phosphorous on little children from miles away Truly beautiful religion.
It's soooo beautiful that she should be stoned to death for having an extra-marital relationship. According to Islam at least....just like adulterers, people dressing differently, homosexuals, people leaving the religion, non-believers etc.
A truly peacefulreligionUSA military industrial complex....which advocates the use of thesword,cowardly predator drones, depleted uranium, white phosphorous, genocide, regional destabilization, military invasion andforced conversionsregime change to spread its 'message' in the name of peace and democracy.
People likethat woman you mentionedthose sheeple who blindly believe the propaganda they are spoon-fed by a government that is clearly attacking it's own citizens are what the Soviets used to refer to as 'useful idiots' which is what ]the rest of the world calls Americans who are generally naive and easy to convince by using a certain type of argument based upon nothing but pure ignorance, and the inaccurate stereotypes they have been brainwashed into believing since childhood.
I thought the best way to fight ignorance and Islamophobia would be to post other Muslims who can tell their stories, how they came to know Islam, etc...When Muslims stop preaching hatred towards non muslims, when they stop advocating and sponsoring terrorism, when they stop oppressing women, when they stop mutilating the genitals of young girls, when they stop arrogantly and defiantly believing they are right and everyone else is wrong and when they stop killing and threatening others because they feel offended, other people or groups might, just might begin to listen, until then Muslims will always be seen as barbaric, goat herding, semi literate towel heads who live in the dark ages and worship a Pedo!
I don't 'qualify' to these getbiggers as a former Christian because I no longer believe in the church, the trinity, etc... When I try to tell them how I studied the bible, Christianity, Christianity's history, etc... and how I can quote to them the bible better than they can, I do not 'qualify' because I don't believe in the trinity :) All they can do is copy paste giant blogs and not think for themselves. None of them have read the Qur'an. The many questions I had in the bible were answered in the Qur'an.
To the atheists I clearly am 'anti-science' because I don't believe we come from monkies that came from rodents that ultimately came from sea creatures.
To the politics lovers I betrayed 'western civilization' because I talk about the atrocities and hypocrisy committed by western governments. When I expose the mainstream media as a fraud, they respond that I "watch too many youtube videos" LoL
I will post some threads explaining our beliefs. I did not come to 'convert people' but I joined here for bodybuilding. I only began responding when I saw islamophobia, hatred, lies, and misinformation. The Qur'an is quite explicit about this. That we are only to be messengers, it is God that guides people and people's hearts that want to be guided. God responds to Muhammad (pbuh) in the qur'an you are not a manager over people but only a messenger and do not grieve for those that do not accept the message even if they humiliate you or denounce you etc...
The core belief in Islam is our belief that God is absolute, unique and one, that we do not worship anything in the creation and only our creator. Which is known as Tawheed. I may begin with that if you find that interesting.
When Muslims stop preaching hatred towards non muslims, when they stop advocating and sponsoring terrorism, when they stop oppressing women, when they stop mutilating the genitals of young girls, when they stop arrogantly and defiantly believing they are right and everyone else is wrong and when they stop killing and threatening others because they feel offended, other people or groups might, just might begin to listen, until then Muslims will always be seen as barbaric, goat herding, semi literate towel heads who live in the dark ages and worship a Pedo!
Not a flame E-Kul, just a clarification of what I seem to be hearing from you...It is a lie that extremists masquerading as Muslims are the problem. Their are no moderate Muslims, here in Australia, when they protested, the so called moderates came out in droves holding up signs to behead people. WTF is that?, their was a woman who gave the sign to Behead others to her 4 year old Son to hold up, if that's the attitude of the moderates, well God help us all. Anyway, it's the whole perverse religion fuelled by the HATE FILLED KORAN. They are programmed to behave in an anti social and violent way that leads them to be unable to integrate into any Western secular society. Muslims are closed minded and arrogant as a result of their religious beliefs. Until Muslims wake up and see they are the reason they are vilified and disliked, they will continue to be treated like the barbarians they are. Muslims must change their ways and behaviours, otherwise they will continue to draw negativity towards them, they remind me of a naughty child who refuses to take responsibility for their own behaviour, until the child accepts responsibility, the parent will continue to discipline and punish them.
Is it your position that you would be ready to learn about Islam, ...when perverse extremists masquerading as Muslims stop killing and threatening others? Is that your position?
You do realize that's like saying you hate Christians and would never listen to them because those darned Westboro Baptist Church guys keep picketing the funerals of American servicemen, and until those Westboro Baptists church guys stop cheering American deaths, those Christians can take a flying leap.
To the politics lovers I betrayed 'western civilization' because I talk about the atrocities and hypocrisy committed by western governments.
I will post some threads explaining our beliefs. I did not come to 'convert people' but I joined here for bodybuilding. I only began responding when I saw islamophobia, hatred, lies, and misinformation.
The Qur'an is quite explicit about this. That we are only to be messengers, it is God that guides people and people's hearts that want to be guided. God responds to Muhammad (pbuh) in the qur'an you are not a manager over people but only a messenger and do not grieve for those that do not accept the message even if they humiliate you or denounce you etc...
The core belief in Islam is our belief that God is absolute, unique and one, that we do not worship anything in the creation and only our creator. Which is known as Tawheed. I may begin with that if you find that interesting.
Funny you mention that. In 2007 I was dragged into a debate with my best friend's brother. We were sitting in a hotel room, and he was going on and on about sport hunting (not for food mind you, ...simply for the love of hunting an animal and killing it) I was obviously disgusted by that idea, and couldn't manage to call up a poker face when I needed it. As I tried to discretely excuse myself from the conversation, he got offended that I was not very enthusiastic about the idea of hunting down an animal and killing it just for fun. When I (out of respect for my best friend) further tried to disengage him by simply saying "Let's just agree to disagree" He grew enraged, and incensed, and started screaming Bible verses at me, accusing me of worshipping the creation instead of the creator. I couldn't believe this guy was actually using the Bible to justify the taking of life. I remember thinking what next? Using the bible to justify rape, murder, plunder, pillage, incest, adultery & fornication too? 'Cause it's all in there as well. ::)
It is a lie that extremists masquerading as Muslims are the problem. Their are no moderate Muslims, here in Australia, when they protested, the so called moderates came out in droves holding up signs to behead people. WTF is that?, their was a woman who gave the sign to Behead others to her 4 year old Son to hold up, if that's the attitude of the moderates, well God help us all.
Anyway, it's the whole perverse religion fuelled by the HATE FILLED KORAN.
They are programmed to behave in an anti social and violent way that leads them to be unable to integrate into any Western secular society. Muslims are closed minded and arrogant as a result of their religious beliefs.
Until Muslims wake up and see they are the reason they are vilified and disliked, they will continue to be treated like the barbarians they are. Muslims must change their ways and behaviours, otherwise they will continue to draw negativity towards them, they remind me of a naughty child who refuses to take responsibility for their own behaviour, until the child accepts responsibility, the parent will continue to discipline and punish them.
I've worked with several Muslims, they all despised the religion and reluctantly pretended to care because of their families. They all seemed doomed to living someone else's life. I felt really sorry for them, when i asked them, why didn't they just leave the religion, they said they couldn't and that I wouldn't understand. What a fucked way to raise your children.
I haven't studied it enough to definitively state that is what the religion prescribes. I can only say, my understanding is that these attrocities are the doctrines of extremists... the kind the USA and it's military industrial complex have been radicalizing, funding, and getting into bed with.
I wasn't the one saying Islam was so beautiful, she was. She was trying to describe for me the beauty she had found in her boyfriend's religion.
I wonder if you will see the irony of the 2 previous statements that I have quoted with appropriate substitutions where warranted. All I can say is, I am grateful to be aware that not ALL Americans or American servicemen are as brain-dead as your leaders believe, ... otherwise I'd think you were all a nation full of Sarah Palins and idiots like those Westboro Baptist church guys.
I have many Muslim friends, none of whom are anything at all like the radicals depicted in Western media. With the exception of one particular doctor in Mumbai, all the Muslim men I have ever encountered have held themselves to a level of dignity and personal accountability that demonstrated true respect for humanity in general, and women in particular.
I don't know about Islam, ...but I do recognize the hypocrisy that is so prevalent in those professing certain faiths, ...and I know bullshit & hate propaganda when I hear it. It only makes me want to discover more about Islam, to use my God given critical thinking skills to discern between truth and lies.
I encourage you all to do the same.
Thank You Ahmed for this refreshing and thought provoking thread.
(ps: Next time, could you be a bit more sparing on the examples. ;) )
With that, I'm off to prepare for my noon Webcast.
I'm not American
and yes their government does have massive faults but at least they allow a far higher degree of personal freedoms as opposed to an Islamic state.
No nation is perfect, but some are worse than others.
Religious fundamentalism of Christians is annoying but still somewhat tolerable as they're not generally killing people or setting up bombs,
on the other hand their are a LOT of extremist Moslems whose terrorist actions and violent protests have caused much of the non-Islamic world to despise them.
I've said before I'm against military intervention in the Middle East and that should just be left alone to do whatever they want.
The same military forces can then be used to keep the Moslems out of the West to ensure they said in their Islamic utopia's and aren't corrupted by our evil systems.
Western governments should in fact formulate alliances and programmes with their Islamic governments to help protect the Moslem citizens from the vile evils of the West and prohibit them from being contaminated by our secular culture....
Couple of quick questions.
1. What's the proper way to kill your daugther after she gets raped and brings shame to your family? Is stoning her okay?
2. Is there a limit to how many women I can throw acid into the faces of if they shame me?
Thanks, buddy. I'm thinking of converting soon.
Oh dear... I'm sooo sorry for the inadvertent insult ;)
Thanks to exceptional PR over the years, that is the natural assumption, but given the steady erosion of freedoms there, one really has to sit down and take a tally to determine if that is really the case.
True. ...and when a nation starts to believe it's own manufactured PR, it's really in trouble.
Excuse me, ahem, ...have you forgotten about the IRA. As I recall those Christians did a pretty good job of setting up bombs and killing people all over the UK and Ireland for years. C'mon Dude, you're time zone is 5 hrs ahead of EDT. Don't tell you've so quickly forgotten about the IRA
Are there really? Or is there alot of very negative press that skews & filters the representations we get to see. It's been my observation that the only time we ever see mass protests in the west, it is due to some deliberate provocation by attacking something they find sacred. Westerners don't understand it because with very few exceptions, westerners don't find very much of anything sacred.
Normal life? Alcohol, clubbing? ::)
What us muslims are not normal for worshipping God, abstaining from alcohol, dressing modestly, amongst other things.
What is normal to you, may not be normal to others.
Yes, or brutally lashing people for drinking wine, stoning women in pits for partaking in a fundamental human right, or cutting off the hands of candy thiefs.
I'm not British...or Irish ;D
Anyway, the terrorism conducted by the IRA was more of a political one to force Northern Ireland to be part of the Republic of Ireland.
The Protestants support British rule while the Catholics don't.
It has also more to with the fact that many of the Protestants are descendants of England and Scotland.
It's more political and had no world-wide attacks that caused global problems.
The IRA were also sometimes at least half-decent enough to phone first and warn that a bomb was going to go off so the people could evacuate.....I don't think Al-Qaeda have ever done that ;D
There is a tendency these days for massive political correctness but the fact is that most terrorist bombings and killings are committed by Moslems such as the recent attacks on Christians and churches in Nigeria.
If there was no 911 then I don't think the US would have attacked Middle Eastern countries.
The motivation for the terrorist attacks on 911 is probably due to American support of Israel as well as bases in Saudi Arabia and other absolute monarchies who are propped up by the West.
I believe they support Israel as it is a counter-weight in the region and helps maintain a balance of power that is also in the US interests so I can understand their reasoning.
so as much as I despise the absolute monarchies, the bases are there to prop up those regimes in order to ensure a guaranteed oil supply. It does make sense even though I disagree with the concept.
But attacking the West via terrorism doesn't help the problem and neither does Moslem actions of pushing their religions in our faces and praying in the streets and making a big show of it etc. It only causes further resentment towards them.
In my opinion, their culture is generally incompatible with Western values and beliefs.
And yes there has been an erosion of freedoms in the West and there are a lot of problems which need sorting out, but compared to an Islamic state, there is still quite a lot of personal freedom such as freedom of association, speech, sexuality, religion etc.
However even these freedoms are not necessarily perfect either but still generally a lot better than in an Islamic or a non-secular state.
So what you're saying is that it's OK to commit terrorism, ...as long as it's motives are purely political, not religious? Is that what you're saying?
Sounds like lines were drawn along religious lines to me
Uh... I beg to differ. There were attacks all over the place, but since alot of funds and lobbyists and a lot of dirty hands were in America, we didn't see much coverage in MSM in North America.
You mean as opposed to today's new breed of terrorist & terrorist supporters who will only warn their well connected mayoral friends that perhaps they shouldn't fly that day?
I believe that bombings & killings that are credited to muslims receive a whole heckuvalot of air time, but that most terrorist bombings and killings have been committed by governments either overtly or covertly, ...but since these actions have not be given the 'terrorism' label, have not been recognized as such by a dumbed down & drugged up body of people who have been rendered incapable of critical thought.
Of course they wouldn't have. That's exactly why 911 occured in the first place... in order to provide the diplomatic cover America needed to justify further incursion into the ME. It was the justification for the ushering in of the Patriot Act (written prior to 911) to clamp down on Americans, and the start of the takedown of the Republic. dismantling American rights piece by piece, ...with the support of a populace gripped by fear.
The motivation for the terrorist attacks on 911 was to position American to make war, with the support of her citizens. A citizenry in shock, after the mass triggering of the reptilian response in their pysches, which shut down their ability to think clearly. Goebbels would have been proud. Finally people started rallying behind the illegitimate pResident, ...the one who was pelted with eggs during his inauguration ceremony.
On September 10th, he was the village idiot from Texas.
On September 12th, he was The Commander in Chief.
The bases are there to offer supposed protection from enemies who have previously been armed to the teeth by the very same people coming with offers of protection now.
When did Muslims attack the west?
And what are these western values & beliefs that you believe are so incompatible with their culture?
ps: My apologies Ahmed. It looks like somehow this thread has veered off topic.
You have got to be joking if you think Islam is compatible with Western culture.
I didn't say it was, ...and I didn't say it wasn't, ...you said it wasn't.
What I asked of you was what are these western values & beliefs that you believe are so incompatible with Islamic culture?
Freedom of speech is a big incompatibility. The ability to publish cartoons without fearing reprisals and having bounties placed on your head. The ability to speak openly without fearing that you'll end up like Theo Van Gogh. I could go on.
oh lol freedom of speech.
In the UK blah blah blah
Even in Canada, some dude bought CDs with stories of the prophets which was by Anwar Al-Awlaki. He was a police officer even and not even that a practicing muslim. The police raiding his home and quesitoned him what his 'ties to al-qaeada and anwar al awlaki' are. Even though the lecture series is purely about exactly what the title says, the stories of the prophets.
In France. Try as an exercise of freedom of speech being pro hitler or pro nazis, or anti-jews, or denying the holocaust. You'll be jailed, fined, lose your job, amongst other things for advocating hate speech. Denial of holocaust is a law.
Recently ANOTHER 'comic' was posted in a satirical magazine that mocks religion in france. It was allowed on grounds of 'freedom of speech', but protests were clamped down even though they were peaceful and people arrested for speaking out. So much for freedom of speech.
Or how about Muslim women being banned from wearing hijab. Or how about niqabis who are banned from wearing niqab outside. They get fined and jailed. "Freedom of expression"
In the US there's things that are labeled 'hate speech' that are not hate speech for example criticizing Israel. Yet slandering Islam is 'freedom of speech'. Slander is not criticism.
Freedom of speech SHOULD be restricted as hate speech is not freedom of speech, that's abuse of freedom of speech.
There's a reason there are laws relating to 'libel', slander of people, etc...
but oh I know it will be argued its for 'living ppl only' well muslims are living even if our prophet (peace be upon him) passed away.
There should internationally be a law against slander of religions, period. It is one thing to debate and criticize but to slander and demonize is a whole other issue.
It's such hypocricy. It is quite clear it is an all out attack on Islam and Muslims. Pretty sad. People see it for what it is. It won't last forever.
It doesn't matter who it was. It's not 'our case' we already have our case. Anybody with an ounce of brain power can realize pigs are garbage eaters who do these filthy things. In the other thread where you were around, I told you my grand parents had a pig farm, and obviously we used to eat pork ourselves.when did you convert to islam?
I would never touch that crap ever again. I ate it because we were raised with that and it was 'normal' and I knew nothing about the animal, besides what I saw, and yes it was filthy. My father even helped my grandfather with pig slaughter preparing the meat, etc...
Ah.. it brings back memories, its interesting look back at life.
Most people realize pork is unhealthy and disgusting. Yet they keep eating it. And as far as religion, I was shocked as was my mother when we started reading the bible. Even people at church didn't know what's in the bible lol.
From my understanding "Freedom of Speech" was a right granted to journalists, ...so they could have the freedom to publish the truth without fear of persecution. Like most things though, it has been twisted, and journalistic freedom of speech, now seems to mean the freedom to dispense lies with impunity.
Why is it that it is against the law to yell "Fire" in a crowded theatre?
Why is freedom of speech not applicable there?
officially dec 2003. But started reading about it since april 2001, started reading alot more after sept 2001mmmm, that is odd...
avxo attempts to beatknowledgewhat he believes into those who refuse tolearnbelieve.
Then you are sorely missing out.
Sounds like you suffer from that which you claim to detest.
Often that is the case.
Sounds very narcissistic.
Your understanding, at least as far as United States jurisprudence goes, is quite flawed. The language of the First Amendment is clear: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
You ought to read the background and the decision of the Supreme Court in a case called Brandenburg v. Ohio (http://www.oyez.org/cases/1960-1969/1968/1968_492). It's likely to answer all the questions you have, and quite a few that you don't.
Because falsely yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater actually and directly endangers others. You do not have a 'right' to endanger others anymore than you have a 'right' to kick them in the groin. But as I noted above, check out Brandenburg v. Ohio. If you're feeling adventurous, check out Schenck v. U.S. (which is where the "can't yell 'fire' in a theater" line comes from).
LOL, Thanks for that clarification, ...I was actually being facetious.
I know why you can't yell fire in a crowded theatre. To say that passing laws against that, is different from passing laws against willfull purposeful provocation is a load of rubbish imo.
Pick up a dictionary to see the definition of narcissist. Axvo fits that. Rejecting his rambling non-sense and self glorifying doesn't make one a narcissist.
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Provocative words aren't the problem and there's nothing inherently bad or evil about provocative words. In fact, sometimes, they are the means to say things that are really important.
The words of the Founding Fathers of the United States were willfully and purposefully provocative. They roused a people to overthrow a King and seek a new way of life.
The words of Havel Václav were willfully and purposefully provocative. They roused a nation and put it on a path the freedom.
The words of anti-communists in Russia and Cuba were willfully and purposefully provocative.
Even the words of Jesus were, according to the Bible, willfully and purposefully provocative.
Your suggestion that we need to legislate away free speech by neutering what we can say is ridiculous. I'd say you should be mocked and ridiculed and I'm being willfully and purposefully provocative. And if you take offense to that, go fuck yourself.
You call what you want free speech and you want to restrict it when you see fit.
Exclusively in this discussion, it is free speech to mock, slander, spread hate, lie against and attack Muslims, however it is not free speech when in whatever situation you CHOSE it not to be 'free speech'
However it is free speech to burn qur'an, not terrorist when bombing countries and killing a million+ people in ten years. While burning american flags is 'radical' and 'extremist', despicable, etc...
Well one would think such a 'moral society' ::) with such 'high standards' wouldn't endorse slander, mockery and lying as 'free speech'.
Americans are busy doing alot of killing. Apparently you have cold feelings towards 1 million+ ppl being slaughtered by America in ten years. Just a number.
Alot of Americans on this forum certainly do. Furthermore quite a few use their 'freedom of speech' to advocte for murder and praise the murder of millions of muslims.
Well one would think such a 'moral society' ::) with such 'high standards' wouldn't endorse slander, mockery and lying as 'free speech'.Americans are killing those(Muslims) that have made it perfectly clear they would do the same to Westerners if they had the fire-power. That's what's crazy about Muslims, they run around in a permanent state of outrage threatening others, yet they don't have the muscle to back it up. Muslims are like a crazy person picking a fight with a man with a gun.
Americans are busy doing alot of killing. Apparently you have cold feelings towards 1 million+ ppl being slaughtered by America in ten years. Just a number. Alot of Americans on this forum certainly do. Furthermore quite a few use their 'freedom of speech' to advocte for murder and praise the murder of millions of muslims.
avxo attempts to beat knowledge into those who refuse to learn.
I really don't care what axvo has to say quite frankly, it's a waste of my time.
Glutton for punishmentGlutton for punishment, that could be a synonym for the word Muslim
Ayaan Hirsi Ali has more guts and brains than you will ever have in your lifetime.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali has more guts and brains than you will ever have in your lifetime.
BTW, this is GB. We post what we want, where we want.
You don't like it, you can fuck off.
LOL she's brave for being a liar and a fraud?Says the "man" who just knows that an invisible sky god gave the secrets of the universe to a guy in a cave fourteen centuries ago and so questions nothing.
A Dutch journalist exposes her how she lied and forged stories to make money. She made up false stories to win the hearts of brainwashed ignorant people like yourself and make money. Ignorants supporting ignorants. She has ulterior motives and wants $$$. That's what she got. Ultimately she was exposed as a fraud and a liar.
LOL she's brave for being a liar and a fraud?
A Dutch journalist exposes her how she lied and forged stories to make money. She made up false stories to win the hearts of brainwashed ignorant people like yourself and make money. Ignorants supporting ignorants. She has ulterior motives and wants $$$. That's what she got. Ultimately she was exposed as a fraud and a liar.
Says the "man" who just knows that an invisible sky god gave the secrets of the universe to a guy in a cave fourteen centuries ago and so questions nothing.
Keep trying, man. Keep believing whatever they tell you.
Question nothing and be a slave until the end.
I am a slave and servant of God while you are slave and servant of banksters, your military and government orders and your own uncontrollable desires
I wouldn't call his 'experiences' as 'truth'.
You're a slave to ignorance and your own fears of mortality.
I beg to differ if I was a slave of ignorance I would be like the many gnomes on here that don't think and think they think.
I don't fear mortality either, quite the opposite, I realize this life is temporary and only a temporary abode until we return to God Almighty.
Ahmed, do you think that Muslims should be allowed to own slaves?
The northern alliance are the ones that were into the drug trade (opium), into beating women, raping women, yes the 'northern alliance' that the US supported and funder they are the ones that engage in 'gay concubine boyfriends' raping boys, 'bacha baci' and all the other disgusting non-sense.
Everyone is a 'taliban' to him for fighting. He can't discern between culture or islam either. To him its all the same crap. Like any other US or western soldier that goes there thinking they are 'saving the world'
It's no different than his 'account' of my family leaving africa and experiencing some douchebag wanting a bribe and a hijabi standing near by. We thought this was islam or muslims. My father hated them yet didn't know shit.
We really didn't know much about islam despite years of living amongst Muslims as Christians. They did not force upon us anything yet we came there with preconceived notions.
Bribery for instance is forbidden in Islam.
I beg to differ if I was a slave of ignorance I would be like the many gnomes on here that don't think and think they think.
I don't fear mortality either, quite the opposite, I realize this life is temporary and only a temporary abode until we return to God Almighty.
lol an old friend of mine from college, a south african muslim was threatened by this Jewish professor that had ties to Fox, basically my friend was making anti-war/anti-us political animations, so this teacher said all he has to do is make one phone call and you'll never work in the industry, no one will hire you lol. ::) Needless to say my friend kept doing it and is making money from freelancing and working for himself anyways.
I wouldn't call his experiences truth either, ...that's why I referred to them as "HIS truth".
Back in 2007 while in Home Depot, I ran into a guy who I used to work with in the film industry. He asked me what I was doing on Sunday ...if I had any plans? Before I could even answer, he said "I want you to come to my Church." I tried to politely decline the invitation, but he countered with... "If you don't come to my church on Sunday, I'll make sure you never work in the film industry again."
First of all, ounce for ounce, pork tenderloin has less fat than a chicken breast. Now I’ll wait a moment for you to get back into your chair or standing position off the floor and revive the person in the room with you that you were reading this article to. Yep, pork tenderloin has less fat than the holy diet talisman, the ordinary chicken breast.
Continuing on … pork is actually quite naturally low in salt and a rich source of premium quality protein. It is also a good source of several life sustaining vitamins and necessary minerals that are needed for good health including iron, zinc, as well as some of the B group vitamins, selenium and phosphorus.
Pork is a great source of protein in your diet. A 100g portion of pork provides you with about half of the protein you need for the entire day.
While there are several different cuts of pork with varying fat content, the leanest of these contain just 6% fat, which is incredibly low.
When properly trimmed, pork contains far more unsaturated fat than saturated fat.
Pork actually contains heart protective “n3 fatty acids” that help the body prevent coronary disease
Pork also naturally contains “Conjugated Linoleic Acid” (CLA) which scientific tests show health benefits in the areas of cancer and heart health.
Pork is a good source of the easily absorbed form of dietary iron.
Pork is a rich source of B12. A 100g portion of pork provides you with 70% of your daily requirement of the vitamin!
A 100g portion of pork provides you with more than 30% of your daily requirement of zinc.
The iron, zinc and vitamin D naturally plentiful in pork are actually far more efficiently absorbed than from other food sources.
Pork is a powerful, natural help in the bodies fight to avoid “Type 2 Diabetes” and help to maintain optimal blood sugar levels. Recent research has shown that pork improves the body’s thiamine status, while lowering heart disease risk factors and actually helping to control glucose levels in type 2 diabetics.
Muslims are fucking retarded!
Asking idiotic questions does not deserve a response. I've already responded to plenty of idiotic questions only to not really help you as you persist in the same idiotic questions not because you are sincere but because you just want to repeat stupidity. It only makes you look like a stupid tool and a fool.
If you want to believe all the bs you've been spoon fed against Islam, be my guest. You only look like an ignorant idiot. "Islam iz of ze devil", "Dem mozzlemz evil", "Dem mozzlems killz them ppls", "Dem mozzlemz moon worshiping pagans".
These kind of constant idioitic questions (that are really your angry utterances and statements) have been answered over and over again. Your new idiotic question is "can we haz them slavez". I'm sure you'll come up with other idiotic things to say (not ask) so keep fooling yourself. Islam came ultimately to liberate slaves, as slavery was a common thing in the world. Those that were slaves were to be treated with kindness and Muslims were instructed to free slaves, Muhammad (pbuh) and his family alone freed around 35,000 slaves. There's really no need to answer you as you are just looking to fulfil your own hatred and continue the ignorance.
In the end the reality on the ground is, a quarter of the 4 million american muslims are converts. The highest rate of conversion world wide are white university educated women.
Clearly what you keep foolishly repeating is not affecting people that are learned, but merely keeps you and those others like yourself ignorant amongst yourselves only filled with hatred, lies, slanders, misinformation, all out foolishness.
I am a slave and servant of God while you are slave and servant of banksters, your military and government orders and your own uncontrollable desiresYou're a slave of tradition.
This is HILARIOUS lol... Walid Shoebat attacks Mosab Hassan Yousef..HA HA You Muslims are complete sociopaths, when one of your own tells the truth about Islam and turns his back on the depravity of it all, you all want to kill him and then make up all types of justifications for it. eg: he turned his back on Islam for profit, not because he was intelligent enough to see through the BS of it all, this is the problem, the average Muslim suffers from such a low IQ and reasoning ability, they truly can't understand anyone with an average to above average intelligence who eloquently highlights what a sick twisted dumb bunch of mother fuckers muslims are!
I guess he was taking too much profits from Walid hahaha. Islam is a great business for non-muslims, exploiting the ignorant for giant financial gains and profits in this world. Aah.. how if only they knew how temporary that gain will be when they meet God Almighty
lol trust me he will not share any of his profits with you, probably already bought a villa in California. Some people are so easy to sell themselves. There indeed exists people that would even sell their own mothers for a few cheap worldly gains. Pretty pathetic indeed. It's funny that he would not quote the verses of the qur'an correctly but merely appease those like yourself to make profits.He quotes the quran regularly, it amazes me the lengths Muslims have to go to stay in denial, and you aren't even aware of it. Truly is mind boggling from an outsiders perspective, it's like an adult watching a 5 year old trying to comprehend algebra, and the child pretending to understand it, all the while the adult knows the child doesn't know, but because of the precociousness and immaturity of the child, the adult is powerless to help make the child realize that in fact, They Don't Know!
It doesn't matter who it was. It's not 'our case' we already have our case. Anybody with an ounce of brain power can realize pigs are garbage eaters who do these filthy things. In the other thread where you were around, I told you my grand parents had a pig farm, and obviously we used to eat pork ourselves.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "The seeking of knowledge is obligatory for every Muslim." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 74
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “One who treads a path in search of knowledge has his path to Paradise made easy by God…” - Riyadh us-Saleheen, 245
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "A servant of God will remain standing on the Day of Judgment until he is questioned about his (time on earth) and how he used it; about his knowledge and how he utilized it; about his wealth and from where he acquired it and in what (activities) he spent it; and about his body and how he used it." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 148
The Prophet also said: "Knowledge from which no benefit is derived is like a treasure out of which nothing is spent in the cause of God." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 108
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "God, His angels and all those in Heavens and on Earth, even ants in their hills and fish in the water, call down blessings on those who instruct others in beneficial knowledge." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 422
The Prophet also said: "Acquire knowledge and impart it to the people." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 107
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "If anyone travels on a road in search of knowledge, God will cause him to travel on one of the roads of Paradise. The angels will lower their wings in their great pleasure with one who seeks knowledge. The inhabitants of the heavens and the Earth and (even) the fish in the deep waters will ask forgiveness for the learned man. The superiority of the learned over the devout is like that of the moon, on the night when it is full, over the rest of the stars. The learned are the heirs of the Prophets, and the Prophets leave (no monetary inheritance), they leave only knowledge, and he who takes it takes an abundant portion. - Sunan of Abu-Dawood, Hadith 1631
lol at islamophobes coming to a thread about pork. Yes ignorance is a threat to mankind. Knowledge of Islam is a threat to the western elites and idiots with political agendas or who fear their power/wealth to be affected by Islam because of their own desires/injustices :) Look look islam in it's fundementals:
Pigs love to roll around and live in shit and mud.
mmmm, that is odd...
Ok, anyway, this is the biggest dumbshit argument I've ever heard. Retard blink 200 times a minute Joel Olsteen says that the digestive system of a pig can't process all the toxins out of food because it only takes 4 hours. ::) The digestive system isn't the only organ that processes toxins out of the body so going by how long it takes a pig to move food to crap is meaningless.
And this is funny, the jackass says you can't eat anything that scavenges. No shrimp... no crabs.... ::) No oysters ::) but he says fish are ok... but the stupid fucking assclown doesn't know that some fish are bottom feeders and do the same thing. what an ass. And some of those bottom feeders make for the best eating like: catfish, halibut, flounder, bass and cod. There is nothing inherently toxic about eating shimp, clams or all these others seafoods... This is religious nuttbaggery that deserves nothing but a punch in the face of the ignoramous spewing it. But hey, he said fish are ok so the assclowns in the audience will go out and buy fish to eat... Chances are many will end up buying bottom feeders like flounder and halibut and feel really happy about themselves even though they are now eating an animal that pretty much eats the crap left over on the bottom of the waters the same as he warned against eating other things for lol...
A_ahmed is now probably saying, "oh shit... wait mom, scratch the tilapia from the shopping list"
lol what denial. He is making lots of money and that's the reason he's doing this. He obviously could care less about God or Palestine or his family. He is a weak individual who could not endure the suffering in Palestine and chose instead the life of luxury and comfort in the west. Easy to make money through Islam bashing. Takes only a few iq points to go to some islamophobe websites and start quoting the same non-sense. It works on ignorants like yourself. However anyone who opens the qur'an will realize it is nothing like what he is saying.HA HA Their is nothing wrong with making money, and the reason he is doing it isn't money, it's to expose you sick twisted Muslims for what you are - Terrorists. A Lot of us already know this, Mosab Hassan Yousef is just the icing on the cake. You never see Christians leaving their faith claiming Jesus is a terrorist, but when a Muslim does it, and calls out Muhammad for what he was, nobody has any trouble believing it. Intelligent people already knew! Thanks Mosab for confirming what we already knew and risking your life against these child like Muslims who throw hissy fits every-time they don't get their own way.
Like in that verse he quoted about kill them wherever you find them idolators LOL... an ignorant like yourself would read that and go THEY ARE EEVIIL THESE MOZZLEMS.. yet you have not read what verses come before or the one right after! :) It's amusing! Shows what a tool you are and how ignorant you are. It was about a treaty to perform hajj with the idolators, but they broke the treaty. Right after it, it says but do not transgress, escort people to places of safety if they do not fight/etc... protect people/etc...
He is making money for feeding on ignorance and hate. You are not benefitting anyone or making money. Only making yourself look like a fool.
He takes pleasure in listening to applause saying "Israel... MY COUNTRY" LOL. He's an easy person to get to say anything or do anything for money. A weak individual. He will make a fine american politician just like obama and romney. They will bend over for $$$
Frauds are not 'telling the truth exposing the truth' lol. It's laughable. You're getting excited over an opportunist for profit.
Yeah and what terrifies you is american white women with qurans?Oh, we're angry at Nigerian Christians killing their daughters for honour and Indian Hindus throwing acid on their daughter's faces? They just don't come on GETBIG and promote it like it's a wonderful thing!
You are getting desperate ::) Making yourself look like a fool.
Islam encourages all Muslims (male and female) to seek knowledge, in fact, it is MANDATORY to seek knowledge and be educated.
You should take it up with these preislamic tribal cultures not Islam. As I've already said before. Where's your anger at Nigerian Christians killing their daughters for honour? Where's your anger at Indian Hindus throwing acid on their daughter's faces? These are perverse backwards cultures and I am against them too and so is Islam.
You are just feeding the magic television propaganda dragon, or rather you are being fed it's fumes :)
lol at intelligent people. Like Terry Jones right :) Yes he's doing it for money, and that's the only reason he would spend any of his personal time as he doesn't work and is an immigrant leeching on your money and ignorance :) He doesn't care about God, family or country. He abandoned his family, abandoned his people and land, and certainly abandoned God. He sold his soul for $$$. He's a weak and pathetic individual, a perfect american politician, who will say and do anything for money.he's a religious idiot, same as you.
Just look at his Israel speech, "My country", lol. He is filthy rich living in California.
That Walid Shoebat another favourite of people such as yourself is calling him a fraud because he is taking from his profits lmao.
QuoteMaybe she ate a pulled pork sandwich.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "The seeking of knowledge is obligatory for every Muslim." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 74
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “One who treads a path in search of knowledge has his path to Paradise made easy by God…” - Riyadh us-Saleheen, 245
So why is Taleban shooting children who go to school again?
Asking idiotic questions does not deserve a response. I've already responded to plenty of idiotic questions only to not really help you as you persist in the same idiotic questions not because you are sincere but because you just want to repeat stupidity. It only makes you look like a stupid tool and a fool.Foolisnes like, say, oh I don't know, shooting teenage girls in the head for going to school?
If you want to believe all the bs you've been spoon fed against Islam, be my guest. You only look like an ignorant idiot. "Islam iz of ze devil", "Dem mozzlemz evil", "Dem mozzlems killz them ppls", "Dem mozzlemz moon worshiping pagans".
These kind of constant idioitic questions (that are really your angry utterances and statements) have been answered over and over again. Your new idiotic question is "can we haz them slavez". I'm sure you'll come up with other idiotic things to say (not ask) so keep fooling yourself. Islam came ultimately to liberate slaves, as slavery was a common thing in the world. Those that were slaves were to be treated with kindness and Muslims were instructed to free slaves, Muhammad (pbuh) and his family alone freed around 35,000 slaves. There's really no need to answer you as you are just looking to fulfil your own hatred and continue the ignorance.
In the end the reality on the ground is, a quarter of the 4 million american muslims are converts. The highest rate of conversion world wide are white university educated women.
Clearly what you keep foolishly repeating is not affecting people that are learned, but merely keeps you and those others like yourself ignorant amongst yourselves only filled with hatred, lies, slanders, misinformation, all out foolishness.
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The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "The seeking of knowledge is obligatory for every Muslim." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 74
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “One who treads a path in search of knowledge has his path to Paradise made easy by God…” - Riyadh us-Saleheen, 245
So why is Taleban shooting children who go to school again?
Isn't it clear by now that Ahmed does not condone or believe in what the taliban is doing?
Why do you keep asking him to justify the actions of those he opposes? That's ridiculous!
Maybe you should ask a Taleban?
Maybe they are not following Islam?
Maybe they think killing them is the quickest way for them to reach paradise?
Isn't it clear by now that Ahmed does not condone or believe in what the taliban is doing?
Why do you keep asking him to justify the actions of those he opposes? That's ridiculous!
Ahmed, is this true or false?
You're kidding yourself if you think those who oppose Islam will ever let that poison enter their home or communities. Like anything evil in their midst, civilised cultures will rise against it and put crazy religious freaks back in their place. Where I live, if you pulled your GETBIG trick of constantly forcing your beliefs down others throat, constantly carrying on about a religion that most here find repulsive, never leaving others alone and bothering them when they had clearly told you to fuck off, you would be seriously beat down, that's A fact. You seriously underestimate how much people from the Western World will resist EVIL (islam) and stand up for what is right, and just because you have some sick belief that you have a RIGHT to force your nonsense onto others, their are millions of people here ready to let you know otherwise. "BY HOOK OR BY CROOK"
lol you are an angry child.LOL being talked about everyday, the only time Australians talk about it is when Islamic protesters come out in Public threatening everyone, then Australians talk about beating the ignorant towel heads back to the desert. I asked my partners daughter, she is 18, and her young friends if they had ever heard of Islam or the Koran, they shrugged their shoulders and said 'NO' and didn't even bother asking what it was, I asked them if they had heard of Muhummad, and they responded "you mean the Boxer", I said, no the prophet, Once again they said "NO" didn't bother enquiring further and just continued talking amongst themselves. In 40 years in the same place, the same country, working and living alongside Australians, I have never once heard them mention Islam or the Koran or Muhummad (NOT ONCE) unless like I said, the Muslims start their evangelistic bullshit or protest in the streets, then the only talk is how can we beat these barbarians back to the desert, that's it. ISLAM never gets mentioned. EVER! People just don't like religion in general here, any attempts to force one's belief on others normally results in a loud FUCK OFF or in worse case scenarios if the evangelical zealot doesn't listen, a serious BEATDOWN.
It is entering homes everywhere, Islam is talked about every day even if it is slandered every day, it is spreading everywhere.
It is in fact based on a prophecy Muhammad (pbuh) made. That Islam will spread far and wide that not a single home will be left out of hearing about it's message.
I don't get your problem, you have these deep rooted anger issues and you are taking it out on muslims and islam. You are not detering us from worshipping God or calling others towrds God or explaining what we believe. You are just angry. Anger is not good for the heart. I mean look at yourself you have a slander and lie against Muhammad (pbuh) in your signature sliding around. Have you no sense man?
From sahih bukhari hadith:
Muhamad (pbuh) said: "The man is not a good wrestler; the strong man is in fact the person who controls himself at the time of anger."
It's not the 'physically stronger' person that is a strong man but one that controls himself at the time of anger.
Here's a neat link on view of anger in islam:
Edit: its not letting me post the link it edits it:
http://www.islamawareness. net /Anger/anger.html
None of us are perfect, we are only human, only God is perfect, but you should learn from Islam and not bash us.
By the way no one is forcing anything on you, but advising you. It is only yourself that can change yourself.
LOL being talked about everyday, the only time Australians talk about it is when Islamic protesters come out in Public threatening everyone, then Australians talk about beating the ignorant towel heads back to the desert. I asked my partners daughter, she is 18, and her young friends if they had ever heard of Islam or the Koran, they shrugged their shoulders and said 'NO' and didn't even bother asking what it was, I asked them if they had heard of Muhummad, and they responded "you mean the Boxer", I said, no the prophet, Once again they said "NO" didn't bother enquiring further and just continued talking amongst themselves. In 40 years in the same place, the same country, working and living alongside Australians, I have never once heard them mention Islam or the Koran or Muhummad (NOT ONCE) unless like I said, the Muslims start their evangelistic bullshit or protest in the streets, then the only talk is how can we beat these barbarians back to the desert, that's it. ISLAM never gets mentioned. EVER! People just don't like religion in general here, any attempts to force one's belief on others normally results in a loud FUCK OFF or in worse case scenarios if the evangelical zealot doesn't listen, a serious BEATDOWN.
Thank you.Just proves that muslims are not forcing islam onto australians.And of course they havent heard about islam, cause you probably brainwashed them about how evil religion is.
For a people that don't care much for religion in general, what do you think they are going to do when they learn about the RELIGION OF HATE, the best things Muslims could do, is keep their mouths shit, for the more they teach the poison of the koran to non muslims, the more they will be hated, they are better of keeping to themselves and having others not give a flying fuck about them in the first place. Islam and Muslim zealots will be the undoing of the religion and eventually see it wiped from the Planet Earth entirely. Islam one day will be universally condemned and BANNED, if humanity is to evolve, I have no doubt this will eventually be implemented.
THank you, just proves that muslims arent brainwashing australians.Australians aren't stupid enough to believe in medieval nonsense! We can see a scam from a million miles away! Plus, we're raised in a secular society to be open minded and critical thinkers. This is the antidote to the evil that is Islam.
Australians aren't stupid enough to believe in medieval nonsense! We can see a scam from a million miles away! Plus, we're raised in a secular society to be open minded and critical thinkers. This is the antidote to the evil that is Islam.
How can they beleive in a medieval nonsense when they havent heard of islam? Dear o dear.We are a secular educated society, the average Australian knows a little about all religions, that is what is taught, and the average Aussie likes to self educate on such matters, the problem is, they don't know about the true Islam, what they hear is all the politically correct nonsense and the type of garbage you and A_ahmed come out with, deliberately disguising the true nature of Islam, like the Big Bad Wolf trying to deceive the three little pigs. Even though they get the silver lined version of Islam, they're still not Interested, but because they are unaware of the more evil aspects of Islam they just ignore it, thinking it is an Innocent harmless religion. The moment the extremists like you try and expand and force it onto them is when they will learn the truth, and moves will be made to shut it down or at the very least outlaw such an evil ideology.
Of course they havent heard of religion when you probably brainwash them that religions are poison and that there is no god.
We are a secular educated society, the average Australian knows a little about all religions, that is what is taught, and the average Aussie likes to self educate on such matters, the problem is, they don't know about the true Islam, what they hear is all the politically correct nonsense and the type of garbage you and A_ahmed come out with, deliberately disguising the true nature of Islam, like the Big Bad Wolf trying to deceive the three little pigs. Even though they get the silver lined version of Islam, they're still not Interested, but because they are unaware of the more evil aspects of Islam they just ignore it, thinking it is an Innocent harmless religion. The moment the extremists like you try and expand and force it onto them is when they will learn the truth, and moves will be made to shut it down or at the very least outlaw such an evil ideology.
Read this article from today's paper, even though you Muslims like and pretend you don't support violence, over 25% of our population are onto your sociopathic BS and hold negative views towards Islam, as any decent minded person should.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1705341/Eid:-Sydney's-Muslim-community-leaders-call-for-tolerance (http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1705341/Eid:-Sydney's-Muslim-community-leaders-call-for-tolerance)
The average Muslim Australian is a coward though, they spout all the same nonsense as you, and storm the streets when they are outraged, but when other informed Australians stand up to them, they go back to hiding in their mosques with their tale between their legs plotting their next cowardly act. The Muslims here know they are not taken seriously and are ridiculed and laughed at for their odd ways. And this is the way it wall always be, Australians are progressive, and won't allow themselves to be dictated to by a bunch of brainwashed morons, Australians just see Muslims as like someone else's children, foolish, unlearned and sometimes annoying, we tolerate them, that's it. And when have you ever heard of young children teaching the adults, it's not the natural order, nor will it ever be,
lol you are an angry child.
It is entering homes everywhere, Islam is talked about every day even if it is slandered every day, it is spreading everywhere.
It is in fact based on a prophecy Muhammad (pbuh) made. That Islam will spread far and wide that not a single home will be left out of hearing about it's message.
I don't get your problem, you have these deep rooted anger issues and you are taking it out on muslims and islam. You are not detering us from worshipping God or calling others towrds God or explaining what we believe. You are just angry. Anger is not good for the heart. I mean look at yourself you have a slander and lie against Muhammad (pbuh) in your signature sliding around. Have you no sense man?
From sahih bukhari hadith:
Muhamad (pbuh) said: "The man is not a good wrestler; the strong man is in fact the person who controls himself at the time of anger."
It's not the 'physically stronger' person that is a strong man but one that controls himself at the time of anger.
Here's a neat link on view of anger in islam:
Edit: its not letting me post the link it edits it:
http://www.islamawareness. net /Anger/anger.html
None of us are perfect, we are only human, only God is perfect, but you should learn from Islam and not bash us.
By the way no one is forcing anything on you, but advising you. It is only yourself that can change yourself.
LOL being talked about everyday, the only time Australians talk about it is when Islamic protesters come out in Public threatening everyone, then Australians talk about beating the ignorant towel heads back to the desert. I asked my partners daughter, she is 18, and her young friends if they had ever heard of Islam or the Koran, they shrugged their shoulders and said 'NO' and didn't even bother asking what it was, I asked them if they had heard of Muhummad, and they responded "you mean the Boxer", I said, no the prophet, Once again they said "NO" didn't bother enquiring further and just continued talking amongst themselves. In 40 years in the same place, the same country, working and living alongside Australians, I have never once heard them mention Islam or the Koran or Muhummad (NOT ONCE) unless like I said, the Muslims start their evangelistic bullshit or protest in the streets, then the only talk is how can we beat these barbarians back to the desert, that's it. ISLAM never gets mentioned. EVER! People just don't like religion in general here, any attempts to force one's belief on others normally results in a loud FUCK OFF or in worse case scenarios if the evangelical zealot doesn't listen, a serious BEATDOWN.
For a people that don't care much for religion in general, what do you think they are going to do when they learn about the RELIGION OF HATE, the best things Muslims could do, is keep their mouths shit, for the more they teach the poison of the koran to non muslims, the more they will be hated, they are better of keeping to themselves and having others not give a flying fuck about them in the first place. Islam and Muslim zealots will be the undoing of the religion and eventually see it wiped from the Planet Earth entirely. Islam one day will be universally condemned and BANNED, if humanity is to evolve, I have no doubt this will eventually be implemented.
Hmmm... not quite sure how to word this diplomatically.I never stated that I had never heard of Islam, what I said I was unaware of the true Nature of Islam and that a-ahmed helped point it out. The simple fact is, today's generation are happy not knowing about poisonous ideologies, and why would agnostics educate children about Islam, we teach them, that man is still poorly evolved and know very little about the universe they live or it's origins, we then point them towards the great thinkers of modern times and the current theories being presented. My partners daughter knows about great thinkers and activists like Noam Chomsky, Stephen Hawkings, Albert Einstein, Gandhi, Sigmund Freud, Julian Assange, Shakespeare, Charles Darwin etc etc. This people are far more relevant and enlightened than some dark ages pedo called Muhammad. The kids today easily see through religion and it's hidden agenda, they are more than happy to have nothing to do with it. Lots of people are simply not interested in any religion, particularly the more sinister ones like Islam. We are already content and happy, we found a way to achieve this without believing in fairy tales and medieval texts.
You're saying that your partner's daughter who is 18 had never heard of Islam or the Qur'an?
You also previously stated that you too had never heard of Islam until you started reading Ahmed's posts on GetBig? Is this accurate? E-Kul, what does that say about your level of awareness? ...or for that matter how you & your partner are raising or educating that child?
That said, ...if you have a problem with religion, why are you reading & posting on a Religious discussion board?
It seems the one fueled by poisonous ideology and hatred and verbal violence is only you and yourself my friend.
The way you're sounding is like a grey haired, wrinkly skinned dude who is holding a butcher knife with clenched teeth and foaming at the mouth while spitting as you 'talk' and talking about the 'evils' of islam and muslims.
Get off your high horse, you're drunk on anger and ignorance...
I mean you have refused to read the qur'an but like a lunatic posted verses out of context like you 'know something'.
You are focusing on the stereotypical negative vibes that are already ignorantly wide spread in society. You are not doing anyone service.
HA HA Angry Muslim accuses me of being some crazed lunatic HA HA The Irony!
lol trust me i'm pretty chill and relaxed as they get. You on the other hand, I wouldn't feel comfortable having you around school chidlren the way you think and talk. You're a walking angry time bomb about to burst out. You have serious bottled up issues from your childhood man.I am a very calm controlled individual, what would fill me with hate though, is to follow a religion based on war, violence and terrorism, I would be doing a disservice to myself and to humanity to support such an ideology or religion. Nobody would call someone who stood firm against NAZISM as hateful, but strangely, those who support the Regime accuse those who oppose them of exactly that. This is a very common technique used by any group that is not accepted by society, HATE groups (like ISLAM) always find ways to justify their ways and neutralise the justified discrimination that is deservedly sent their way. Ironically, the HATE FILLED Group only need drop their distasteful and terrorist ways for them to become accepted, but they have become so enmeshed in their EVIL ways, to return again to normality or humanity proves too difficult.
Let go and turn a page in your life seriously man. You're just appearing totally ignorant and foolish, aside from seriously hate and anger filled.
I never stated that I had never heard of Islam,
what I said I was unaware of the true Nature of Islam and that a-ahmed helped point it out. The simple fact is, today's generation are happy not knowing about poisonous ideologies, and why would agnostics educate children about Islam, we teach them, that man is still poorly evolved and know very little about the universe they live or it's origins, we then point them towards the great thinkers of modern times and the current theories being presented. My partners daughter knows about great thinkers and activists like Noam Chomsky, Stephen Hawkings, Albert Einstein, Gandhi, Sigmund Freud, Julian Assange, Shakespeare, Charles Darwin etc etc. This people are far more relevant and enlightened than some dark ages pedo called Muhammad. The kids today easily see through religion and it's hidden agenda, they are more than happy to have nothing to do with it. Lots of people are simply not interested in any religion, particularly the more sinister ones like Islam. We are already content and happy, we found a way to achieve this without believing in fairy tales and medieval texts.
And I post in a Religious thread (on a body-building board) to counter your BS and in the hope that you religious zealots will eventually fuck off to somewhere where you are welcomed and stop your evangelical crusade via a Bodybuilding forum. People like to discuss religion, not have evangelists force their lies and propaganda down other peoples throats. That's the difference between you and I, you wish to force your agenda and beliefs down other peoples throats while others are happy to discuss their ideas and theories. It is the arrogance of Muslims that is despised, their refusal to listen to others and their righteous grandiosity pretending they are somehow right and everyone else is wrong. Muslims will never be accepted by free thinking people, they are arrogant, and closed minded, their minds have been closed by ignorance and repetition of lies sold as truth. Enlightening a Muslim is like trying to pour water into a cup that is already full. It is impossible,
I am a very calm controlled individual, what would fill me with hate though, is to follow a religion based on war, violence and terrorism, I would be doing a disservice to myself and to humanity to support such an ideology or religion. Nobody would call someone who stood firm against NAZISM as hateful, but strangely, those who support the Regime accuse those who oppose them of exactly that. This is a very common technique used by any group that is not accepted by society, HATE groups (like ISLAM) always find ways to justify their ways and neutralise the justified discrimination that is deservedly sent their way. Ironically, the HATE FILLED Group only need drop their distasteful and terrorist ways for them to become accepted, but they have become so enmeshed in their EVIL ways, to return again to normality or humanity proves too difficult.
My mistake. I thought that was what you had said in a previous thread.
Me, ... a religious zealot, ...on an evangelical crusade?!!! :o
WOW!!! All I can say is I'm truly embarrassed for you. :-[
What the hell are you even raving on about? Man can you make even a little bit of sense.LOL at Muslim Meltdown, they can only hear the TRUTH for so long before it leads to this! HA HA HA HA it was only a matter of time before a-ahmed lost his marbles, who didn't see this coming! ROTFL
You are sounding exactly like this:
ISLAMZ WAR ISLAM EVIL ISLAM WOMEN ABUSE ISLAM ISLAM ISLAM SCARY ISLAAAAAAAAAAaaAAaaAAaaA M WAR ISLAAAAAM I AM ANGRYYYY ISLAAAAAM
Dear God... You have issues.
Oh yeah and just pssst insider secret from being mozzzlemmm..... we all have our own personal swords and when you become mozzlemzmzzzmzmzm you get a sword and then we in our secret meetings go lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lala
And we make angry faces
ALLAHU AKBAR :)
lol at e-kul's childhood melt down ::)
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Post all the pics you want, im not offended, but your probably one of the most disrespectful, foolish, hateful human beings i have ever met.You will never push me from God, even if you gave me the sun in my right hand and the moon in my left hand.Nobody's trying to push you from God, they're trying to prevent you from pushing God unto them. There's a difference, see if you can tell what it is.
Nobody's trying to push you from God, they're trying to prevent you from pushing God unto them. There's a difference, see if you can tell what it is.
Oh no he didn't :P
Do you realize how you're appearing to clear thinking people?
Nobody's trying to push you from God, they're trying to prevent you from pushing God unto them. There's a difference, see if you can tell what it is.
Even the atheist religion wouldnt accept you into there religion.
^Atheism is a religion/way of life.
You have your beliefs, moral standards, ethics, beliefs, values, etc...
except you reject God and you proselytize your rejection of God. After all why are you here? Your purpose in life? Turning people away from God.
^Atheism is a religion/way of life. You have your beliefs, moral standards, ethics, beliefs, values, etc... except you reject God and you proselytize your rejection of God. After all why are you here? Your purpose in life? Turning people away from God.What a complete knob, how is the rejection of superstition a way of life. Is the rejection of Santa Claus considered a way of life, it is simply a rejection of falsehoods, it may improve your quality of life and help you to see reality far clearer, but the rejection of falsehoods could never be considered a way of life. Atheists couldn't care less about GOD, not only do you freaks want to claim that LIES are TRUTH and TRUTH is LIES, now you want to claim having no religion is a Religion. How can anybody reason with such an irrational individual. Moral standards have absolutely nothing to do with GOD and RELIGION, if anything Religion makes people more Perverse, cruel and murderous. Morality makes perfect sense from an evolutionary perspective, although survival of the fittest is true, scratching other peoples backs ensures that the times you can't be competitive ensures that they will scratch yours, it is simply a survival strategy. Simply put, ones survival potential is increased by team work. If you want to know why people turn away from god, it has nothing to do with those who couldn't care less about GOD, it is because of zealots like you, your pushing of ideas and concepts onto people against their will, and your practice of a Religion of WAR. You are the reason people turn from GOD. But you are way too dumb too ever see that!
I am a slave and servant of God while you are slave and servant of banksters, your military and government orders and your own uncontrollable desires
Sorry to break the news to you, but truth isn't relative. Either Ahmed is right, or he's wrong; his beliefs are either true or false.
Egads, everybody threatens you with not working in the film industry again... First an agent whose yahoo you wouldn't google, then a guy whose church you wouldn't go to.
Who's next? A chef whose food you won't taste? ::)
Oh no, ...there were quite a few in between, ...and I outlasted & outlived them all. lol.
If I had a dime for everytime that threat was hurled, ...I'd never have to work another day in my life.
Your illustrious Hollywood career is, of course, legendary... which is why, having outlived and outlasted everyone, you're peddling gold by the gram via an affiliate program on a bodybuilding forum... ::)
I thought you don't like fiat money.
^Atheism is a religion/way of life. You have your beliefs, moral standards, ethics, beliefs, values, etc... except you reject God and you proselytize your rejection of God. After all why are you here? Your purpose in life? Turning people away from God.
Ever considered that the dream meant that there is only one God and that God is Jesus? It's curious that God didn't use Mohammad in the dream to convey the message...it was Christ. I also find it curious this notion of emotional appeal as justification for Islam and Allah. Maybe you could explain that a bit more.
subhanAllah this is amazing... never heard of this man mashAllah.
Quite a bit before embracing Islam I myself had a dream about Jesus (pbuh) who's face was bright and not quite visible but somehow I knew and felt it was Jesus wearing bright white robes. What he told me is "There is only one God". This happened around the time when I believed in God but was trying to find the truth, and I had a problem with the trinity, the more I discovered, discussed with teachers, read the bible, etc...
The dream he had on the other hand is a dream he had since he was 7 years old and he spent a good portion of his whole life trying to figure out the meaning of it.. amazing... mus twatch.
Ever considered that the dream meant that there is only one God and that God is Jesus? It's curious that God didn't use Mohammad in the dream to convey the message...it was Christ. I also find it curious this notion of emotional appeal as justification for Islam and Allah. Maybe you could explain that a bit more.
Ever considered that the dream meant that there is only one God and that God is Jesus? It's curious that God didn't use Mohammad in the dream to convey the message...it was Christ. I also find it curious this notion of emotional appeal as justification for Islam and Allah. Maybe you could explain that a bit more.
Much of what the prophets themselves were tested by and what was shown to them was via dreams. Are you not aware of that? To true believing people messages can come in forms of dreams as well. In Islam we call this 'true dreams'. There are devilish dreams, true dreams and dreams that reflect our daily thoughts. I had no doubt in my mind about this dream how it was. I do not usually relate it and in fact kept it to myself for a long time. I've had other relevant dreams since which to you may seem insignificant. I even had a dream about 8 months before finding my wife of my wife being veiled and shown to me (ironically similar to the way Muhammad (pbuh) saw Aisha being shown to him by God). These dreams may seem irrelavent to you but they are yes personal experiences.
Absolutely not how can someone come to such a stupid baseless conclusion?!?!
I did not know who Muhammad (pbuh) was and I loved Jesus, I loved all the stories of the prophets and to this day do. You do not realize this. I believed in God, I believed in all the prophets and messengers, however I did not believe in the lies of the church and the contradictions and man made lies. Jesus (pbuh_ was the perfect person God could chose for me to convey the message.
If I am in your dream and I tell you "There is only one God" am I saying I am God? If Satan came to you in your dream and said there is only one God (still true), does that mean satan is God?
Again this dream came to me WHILE I was studying the bible and could not accept the lies of the church. Knowing what Jesus was supposedly saying according to the NT, what the OT was saying about God I could not accept the later fabricated trinity. It was indeed meant for me to have this dream. There were a few other dreams I had since which were relevant as well..
It always struck me funny that Sistine Chapel 'illustrates' God as an 'old man' with a beard yet God says:
"You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. Exodus 20:4
Humans are certainly on the earth and the church has indeed perverted God's message
As far as 'emotions' go, this was just another nail in the conffin for me in my search. Much of what the prophets themselves were tested by and what was shown to them was via dreams. Are you not aware of that? To true believing people messages can come in forms of dreams as well. In Islam we call this 'true dreams'. There are devilish dreams, true dreams and dreams that reflect our daily thoughts. I had no doubt in my mind about this dream how it was. I do not usually relate it and in fact kept it to myself for a long time. I've had other relevant dreams since which to you may seem insignificant. I even had a dream about 8 months before finding my wife of my wife being veiled and shown to me (ironically similar to the way Muhammad (pbuh) saw Aisha being shown to him by God). These dreams may seem irrelavent to you but they are yes personal experiences. As far as your 'curious' notion of emotional appeal for Islam, well, we do not have blind faith like Christians do, we still employ intellect and rational in affirming our faith, but we do have things of this nature that may happen to us.
Ever considered that it was just... you know... a dream? Novel idea, I know, but hey!
If Christianity is about absolute monotheism then where do you get this whole triune God and trinity?
Jesus never preached it. Paul is the one responsible for it.
Like I said Jesus did not say Hear oh Israel your God is a triune God.
We already went over this a thousand times. Jesus prayed to God, not to himself. Jesus will be at the right hand of God, not to himself (confused?). Jesus doesn't know things that God knows.
Etc... you can only justify or explain these things like my dream as well with your own preconceived conjectures tailored by Pauline teachings.
If you didn't know anything about Paul's teachings, and I had a dream of Jesus telling me there is only ONE God, then would you conclude that it MUST be Jesus? It makes as much as sense as you having a dream of me, or someone else or Jesus or even satan telling you "There is only one God", it would not make you conclude that it must be the person who is saying it that is God.
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‘People think I must be oppressed but I’m a strong, confident and free woman,’ she said. ‘I know I’m one of the most unlikely people to revert to Islam.
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lol funny guy :)
In Islam we believe everyone is born pure and in a state of Islam, submission to God, however it is our parents and subsequent social environment that corrupts us and makes us out to be something else. Hence you'll see those that embrace Islam saying we have reverted back to Islam :) Of course it'll confuse a non-muslim.
Why is a Muslims body odour so rancid? Is it because they don't shower regularly, or because they wear impractical clothing for the weather conditions, or is it a combination of these? Or do Muslims by Nature just smell bad as a result of their regular evil thoughts about killing non-muslims? One thing is for certain, Muslims Stink!
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^lol oh gay-kool we're blushing ::)How disturbing was that, forcing Islam on some poor demented old man who has no idea what is going on. Muslims are so desperate for converts, they are harassing the old people in Nursing Homes now! oh, Brother!
How disturbing was that, forcing Islam on some poor demented old man who has no idea what is going on. Muslims are so desperate for converts, they are harassing the old people in Nursing Homes now! oh, Brother!
I wonder how long those women lasted in the religion of WAR and Violence? I guarantee those women left the religion, Islam and Western women don't mix. Muslims just use naive and gullible women like that as a tool to counter negative media they receive, they induct token Muslims to prove a point. They aren't fooling anybody!
lol hilarious, your hatred from a scale of 10 is way above as 50 :)lol, a man whose very religion is HATRED accuses other of being HATEFUL. 6 Australian naive gullible women convert to Islam and all of a sudden the majority of converts to Islam are western educated women. Keep dreaming a_ahmed, I have lived here for 40 years and you think you can tell me what goes on here. Islam is hated by Aussies, you can continue your fantasy of Aussie women being overwhelmed by the religion of HATE, but the few that do join are naive gullible women, who only join because they think Islam is unfairly demonised (they join because they see it as a good cause to support, do-gooders are always looking for a cause to support), once they learn the truth. They leave, it's as simple as that! And they feel like complete and utter fools afterwards for not investigating what it was they were joining!
You still cant' seem to face reality that the majority of converts to Islam are western educated women. I know it sets your body on fire and fuels your anger but that's the reality you have to accept.
You are one sad fella
lol the irony of everything you utter -- hate. :D Funny guy. I think you'll die alone, tortured by your childhood abuse and a heart attack from constant anger. You suck at life bro.HA HA Angry Muslim projects his anger onto everyone else. Hating an evil ideology doesn't make somebody angry, it is normal to be averse to such things. It is evil to embrace them, and only an angry bitter individual would do such a thing. I am sad for you that you are unable to see yourself and the sad path you have chosen for yourself. Good people such as myself will continue trying to guide you from the dark side into the light, the rest of the world has given up on Islam and now are just finalising plans to nuke them off the face of the Earth, but it is not too late for you, you don't have to be a victim to Islam for the rest of your life. I will continue to help guide you, and when you are ready i will help lift you from the miserable existence you have created for yourself and others.
HA HA Angry Muslim projects his anger onto everyone else. Hating an evil ideology doesn't make somebody angry, it is normal to be averse to such things. It is evil to embrace them, and only an angry bitter individual would do such a thing. I am sad for you that you are unable to see yourself and the sad path you have chosen for yourself. Good people such as myself will continue trying to guide you from the dark side into the light, the rest of the world has given up on Islam and now are just finalising plans to nuke them off the face of the Earth, but it is not too late for you, you don't have to be a victim to Islam for the rest of your life. I will continue to help guide you, and when you are ready i will help lift you from the miserable existence you have created for yourself and others.
Don't let Allah or I stop you!
Id rather put a bullet in me
I will never follow your path or guidance.This is the problem with Muslims, they think they know it all, and refuse to accept their are others who may be able to offer them something, they run completely on EGO, they Ignore others and say they will behave and do as they want because Man has no rule over him, he claims to be ruled by a non verifiable Divine being. This is complete nonsense, it is just an excuse to go completely wild on free will. If their actually was a God, he would be deeply ashamed by Muslims and their behaviour!
I will never follow your path or guidance.
Id rather put a bullet in me then be like a fool like you.
You have quite the imagination :) I guess you create a fantasy world to detract from your own miserable life's reality
I thought you hated muslim women lmaoNo you have me confused for a Muslim Man!
No you have me confused for a Muslim Man!
Show me videos where other religions have this amount of hatred towards women in the modern world
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eye-openingThis is just the tip of the iceberg, it is this type of thing that the mad Muslims are desperate that you don't see, they are trying to sell you moderate Islam while behind the scenes their real goal is to Islamise the world and have Sharia law everywhere. Islam is Pure Evil and the Western World needs to learn about it before it is too late.
muslim women are taking to the streets wanting shariah law.And what is the punishment for women against Sharia Law? Muslims are such fools, they think because they have instilled fear in their women that when women choose what the men want they are doing it from free will. They do it because they are afraid for their health and safety. It's called "DURESS"
Women are starting to wear the hijab in schools, on television etc.
This is just the tip of the iceberg, it is this type of thing that the mad Muslims are desperate that you don't see, they are trying to sell you moderate Islam while behind the scenes their real goal is to Islamise the world and have Sharia law everywhere. Islam is Pure Evil and the Western World needs to learn about it before it is too late.
Orly?
So why dont these islam do righters step in and correct their misbegotten flock. When catholic church rapes occured plenty of christians demanded that these pedos be broight to justice and held the church accountable for hiding them. Like child rapes doesnt happen in mosques or kovils or whatever. Its everywhere in every religion. Then again muhahahamed was a pedo so child rape is probably acceptable in islam. ;D
Whenever muslims do something wrong its swept under the rug by other muslims. No condemnation just turn a blind eye.
We non Muslims already know him. We saw Innocence of Muslims!!! Seems the only people who don't know he was a pedo, pig fucker, murderer IS Muslims. Wait NM, they know too. They just don't give a shit.HA HA - Muslims know it and actually like that side of Muhammad, it means they get to fulfil their sick perverted fantasies by marrying and raping pre pubescent girls.
HA HA - Muslims know it and actually like that side of Muhammad, it means they get to fulfil their sick perverted fantasies by marrying and raping pre pubescent girls.
I've missed you Ekul.i guess you didn't grow any brain cells while you were gone.
Do you think you'll grow up before you die?
You sem to lack far more braincells. They were probably washed out with the poisonous lies that treasonous pedophile prophet. Not suprising that you get so upset whenever someone puts you in your place.
It is FAITH in Science that sees people get on a plane and TRUST that it will FLY The science behind FLIGHT is based an immutable TRUTHS, LAWS which can be verified over and over and over again.
But who created the laws that allow us to fly?
Believing solely in science is also blind faith because you're accepting that you can not answer what the universe and us.
But who created the laws that allow us to fly?
There are waay too many intricacies that allow us to life on this planet to say it's all a coincidence and there's no "invisible hand" guiding it.
Believing solely in science is blind faith because you're accepting that you can not answer what created the universe and us.
Science is a process and not a truth in and of itself. Science is used to find explanations. You can't apply a religous model to define science.
was i talking to you?
E-kul can defend himself
Well im talking to you. Ignorant fools like you need a few knocks of common sense upside your head.
Besides dont you step in to answer questions directed to achmutt? So shut the fuck up unless you have something intelligent to say.
No need to cry.
Go get yourself a milk bottle
But who created the laws that allow us to fly?
There are waay too many intricacies that allow us to life on this planet to say it's all a coincidence and there's no "invisible hand" guiding it.
Believing solely in science is blind faith because you're accepting that you can not answer what created the universe and us.
YES! Science is our only HOPE! WHY?> Because it works!
It is FAITH in Science that sees people get on a plane and TRUST that it will FLY The science behind FLIGHT is based an immutable TRUTHS, LAWS which can be verified over and over and over again. FAITH should always be backed up by verifiable TRUTH, not something that one just blindly follows because they HOPE for future proof or others have told them too. To eliminate RELIGION and False beliefs we need to stop Religious Nuts forcing their indoctrination on Children, if you can prevent children being contaminated by the God Botherers from a young age, they may have a chance of growing up to be independent critically thinking adults. But the Religious perverts can't keep away from the children, they just can't help themselves.
Is science the only answer for what specifically? I haven't had an opportunity to watch the video.
We do not worship anyone but God. I thought you already understood this from our debates and discussions. However we hold all the prophets and messengers and all the blessed people of God in high esteem. More so than you might, as we see them as the role models to follow, hence why we Muslims are sometimes labeled 'backward' because our goal is to emulate the prophet of GOd (peace be upon him). Mary and Jesus (peace be upon him) are held in high esteem in Islam, hence there is a whole chapter named Mary (pbuh). Mary (pbuh) is a woman chosen out of all and above all womenkind and is the most blessed women.
The difference is we do not worship them. You in particular may not worship Mary (pbuh), but Catholics do and I certainly know that as I went to catholic school. In fact just in my city here we have a church called "Mary the mother of God" church which indeed is blasphemous.
We do not believe in the 'appointed' father of Jesus in the bible. The Joseph we believe in isYusuf (peace be upon him) the son of Jacob/Israel (peace be upon him).
200,000 MUSLIMS CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY
Sheiks, imams, Islamic leaders, ordinary devotees defy death, ostracism
WASHINGTON – It’s not easy to leave Islam in a Muslim country.
It can put one’s freedom and very life at risk.
But thousands are doing it, according to a new book by Jerry Trousdale, director of international ministries for City Team International. In fact, he writes in “Miraculous Movements: How Hundreds of Thousands of Muslims Are Falling in Love With Jesus,” some 200,000 Muslims have converted to Christianity in just the last six years. And they include sheiks, imams, Muslim leaders and ordinary devotees of the faith.
“There is tremendous dissatisfaction and discouragement among the very people who know the Quran the best and who are themselves desperate for assurance in their own religion,” says Trousdale. Sounds like achmutt
City Team has locations in California, Pennsylvania and Oregon and partnerships in 42 countries around the world. Since 1998, the organization has cared for people around the world by training, equipping, mentoring and coaching local leaders to care for those in need in their communities. This includes training 600,000 new Christians who have started over 18,000 new churches in the past seven years.
“We’re starting a whole new thinking about the nature of church,” says Trousdale. “The model of the church that is emerging is so very different from traditional church. Disciple-making movements are reaching entire nations around the world. It’s incredibly exciting to be a part of seeing people’s lives radically changed by the gospel.”
He believes what has been learned from this experience can make anyone more effective at sharing the gospel – wherever they are.
“This book, these people, and the miraculous stories are for real!” exclaims Chip Ingram, senior pastor of Ventura Christian Church. “There is a paradigm shifting movement of God that anyone and everyone committed to making disciples must read and apply.”
Trousdale says he has seen entire mosques converting to Christianity. He tells of two disciple-makers who refused to give up on one town that had martyred five Christians.
Within seven years, there were seven churches in the town.
The book also documents accounts of Muslims discovering Jesus in dreams and visions.
Even if i beleive these conversions, they are probably the muslims who are the poorest in the world, most likely africa, where they got no food/shelter/clothing etc, and some missionary comes to them offering food and shelter to people who will change for anything cause they are so desperate.
Look Muslims laugh and smile who woulda thought ::)They must be reminiscing about some of their favourite honor killing stories.
They must be reminiscing about some of their favourite honor killing stories.
Maybe they were watching a the muhaamed-Aisha porn that is circulating amongst muslims. :D
Australians HATE ISLAM and their sick perverted ideology, regardless of the spin from the politicians, you can rest assure that Muslims are despised by Aussies just as much as Muslims despise non-muslims. Aussies are hard to pull the wool over their eyes, Muslims love to practice their sociopathy and deceit on naive cultures, it won't work in Australia.
Beware of satan and his prphet muhahamed. Look at all the pagan rituals muslims perform. The call to prayer is really satans instructions spreading the words of hate and fear.
Join forces with god against the unholy allah and his cabal.
Ignorant, angry and hate filled as always. You are part of the forces of the devil because Allah is the name of God almighty in Arabic, Eloh, Alah, etc.. in hebrew and aramaic
O mankind! Eat of that which is lawful and good on the earth, and follow not the footsteps of Shaitân (Satan). Verily, he is to you an open enemy. Surah 2:168
Satan is the open enemy to mankind and when we always say:
Audhu Billahi Minashaitanir Rajeem (أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم)
'I seek refuge from the accursed Satan'. This phrase is often recited to ward away evil and before saying bismillahi rahman ar-Raheem before reading the Quran or other activities.
Bismillahi rahman ar-raheem
In the name of God the most merciful the most compassionate.
You are evil and strive to deter people from God almighty and you are the one siding with the forces of evil, the anti christ to come and satan, not us Muslims who strive to be submissive to God almighty and obedient to God almighty.
:o what is worng with you? :-[
You know back in high school I had a south Korean friend who was a missionary. Over the summer he would go all over poor countries in south america, Africa and Asia. He said their goal is to convert people to Christianity and he had no shame about it even admitted they give people food and tell them it's from Jesus to convert them.
In one of our political classes (mind you this was a catholic high school), we had a discussion on the very subject, is it moral to deceitfully convert people to Christianity. We had quite an interesting debate, the very topic of bribing people to convert via food/etc... was the very thing we discussed.
Right around that time I was reading about other religions including Islam as well... it really made me think. Basically Christianity is a religion based on emotional rhetoric and 'feel good'. Which in essence has nothing to do with Jesus' preaching or works...
To get numbers by any means necessary. People are not embracing Christianity because they believe in God, rather more so because it's a religion of convenience. Do whatever you want and you are 'saved'. Club, drink, bars, it's all fair game but 'try to be good'.
In essence if we look at all that Jesus said according to biblical writings... it is pretty much spot on what Islam preaches... unlike the Christianity that is being spread erroneously attributing everything to Jesus.
For instance "Jesus loves you"... oh boy.. I had a 4 day camp in grade 8 where they held us up in a chapel singing songs about Jesus our lord, Jesus loves you, etc... just emotional stuff. Then at night used to play tapes loud (when we are suppose to sleep!) "Jesus loves you".
All emotional rhetoric... nothing related to Jesus' teachings. Not once is there anything in the bible about "Jesus loves you". It's a new age marketing plot to attract the ignorant masses through emotional rhetoric.
Just like in Islam, Jesus according to the bible was angry at certain crooked people, told people that you will enter heaven through good deeds, etc... not the made up fables of the church.
Christianity and the roman church was losing followers post world war 2.. as the church was basically allied with hitler or kept quiet about the oppression of the Jews. Before the reformation it was "YOU'RE GOING TO HELL if you don't accept Jesus" preaching so it was changed to "Jesus love you" rhetoric instead. Far more appealing.
As in science is not the only answer. Science is merely a tool to understand the best of what we have discovered in the material sense. Science is definitely not always the answer as it can be riddled with wrong answers. After all Religious Nutters once thought the earth was flat and the center of the universe (for example).
^Yet Muslims are the ones responsible for the development of sciences, modern medicine, mathematics, etc... without which you would have none of what you claim. It's funny you mention rockets, planes, cars, etc... because without Muslim discovery and engineering these things wouldn't have been. A crankshaft, a primitive rocket (not vx rocket), pistons, combustion, the scientific method all things that cmae through Muslims but Muslims don't get credit for.
If it weren't for the delay through crusades, etc.. Muslims could have been the ones to fulfill the development of a car before anyone else. Muslims already discovered thousand years back pistons, crankshafts, etc... masters in understanding mechanics. Chemistry? Without muslims there wouldn't be experimentation into chemistry.
Islam does not hate science, science prospered under Islam. Science did not flourish under Christianity that's a different case. Today Christianity is seperated from people's lives and people 'prosper in sciences', but muslims do not prosper as they seperated Islam from their lives, an opposite case.
If you watched the first video you would understand that Islam encourages thought, rational, discovery, etc... that is how the barbaric arab tribes became united and ruled half the world for over a thousand years.
Progress slowed down each time in the islamic empire when wars happened, crusades, mogul invasion, colonialists, then imperialist america, etc... Otherwise progress is spawned from Islam as Islam invites to progress.
That is to say progress in the worldly sense, but Islam is about principle unlike the western thought system where anything goes anyway the wind blows. We stick to our principle's but it does not deter us from progress.
The islamic world is divided and is not upon Islam. The rule is via dictators selected by past colonialists and imperialists -- they are secularists. And when Muslims try to return themselves to the rule of Islam, the west will not allow it and will create problems and encourage civil strife, division, ethnic, racial, nationalist thought to divide the people. Material progress is meaningless as all past civilizations fell apart when they solely relied on material value.
You just posted a video of some women being molested by a butch lesbian cop. Despite all the 'material progress' there is moral decline in western society.
Communists are a perfect example. They barely lasted what a hundred years not even? Highly pro materialism, highly anti-religion.
Lol at islam being the ones to propogate science. Is that what your biased islamic sites say? Greeks and romans were there far before islam got started. China was responsible for many scientific discoveries yet never got due credit. Other cultures stole their ideas and claimed credit for them. Yes scientists were held back by christians because of fear something that still exists today. If silam was so science oriented why didnt it continue this practice to this day?
To you islams is the be all end all so your biases are obvious. Islams was started on borrowed christian ideology by a man who sat in cave and claimed god spoke to him and that man who molested a child should be believed. Islam is a tool of a madman who propogated war, deceit that continues to this day. There is a reason why muslims are despised in all countries that they dont have a majority in.
Continue to live in ignorance with your biases. You are following the path created by a pedophile who stole christian concepts and created his own brand of misery.
you never learn do you!
Just becuase science cant explain everything doesnt mean you can fill those gaps with religion.
Just as you feel followers of religion have blind faith, the fact that science does not explain everything by default means that believing solely in science is indeed blind faith. The blind faith component is believing matter just began and came out of nowhere. Dont fool yourself into thinking that athiests have no blind faith component in their thinking.Scientists don't believe that matter just spontaneously arose, they don't even theorise about that, they believe based on what they know about the universe that it began from an incredibly small dense piece of matter (they don't know where this come from), that was triggered with massive force (they don't know the trigger) and a violent explosion resulted causing aeons of expansion and in the process galaxies and universes were formed. Prior to this, their was no time or space. Scientists use science comprised of the highest human learning and wisdom to determine how the universe works, God is irrelevant, Science couldn't care less if God created it all or Not, they just want to know the truth and not rely on faith. The fact is, faith in science is what sees people jump out of a plane with a parachute, rely on the brakes in their car, cook their food in a microwave, pretty much everything a modern person uses is currently used because of science (unfortunately faith in GOD doesn't seem a good way of creating hi-tech devices) Science isn't about faith, and it doesn't have to make sense, if that's what happened, that's what happened. It is far less confusing than trying to explain what created an infinitely powerful creator!
Scientists don't believe that matter just spontaneously arose, they don't even theorise about that, they believe based on what they know about the universe that it began from an incredibly small dense piece of matter (they don't know where this come from), that was triggered with massive force (they don't know the trigger) and a violent explosion resulted causing aeons of expansion and in the process galaxies and universes were formed. Prior to this, their was no time or space.
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But who created the laws that allow us to fly?
There are waay too many intricacies that allow us to life on this planet to say it's all a coincidence and there's no "invisible hand" guiding it.
Believing solely in science is blind faith because you're accepting that you can not answer what created the universe and us.
LOL yea OK buddy more like as long as the Quran is around (which will be alwas, as Allah said he wil protect it) people will find guidence and truth in their lives.
Yeah, but Allah is an imaginary thing made up by men, so how will that work out?
You Islamdevil worship death cultguys are following the truth. when i see the others i just want to lol.
Actually the Quran speaks of the Big Bang well before scientists documented it.
You didn't get the meaning of my post anyway, what I'm saying is that solely believing in science which does not theorise or attempt address the fundamental question of how the original dense matter was created or who separated it, is indeed a form of blind faith.
I believe there is a God who created the universe, because that's what makes most sense to me. You accuse me of having blind faith because I haven't physically seen God (even though Muslims don't believe He has a physical form anyway). You believe there is no God because that's what makes sense to you. When you choose between a religion or athiesm you are simply choosing which blind faith you will follow. Simply ignoring a question or refusing to attempt to address it does not make your beliefs any less blind than mine.
Also no idea why you claim that religion "hates" Science - Islam encourages it. One can believe in both science and God. They are not exclusive of each other. God created the laws that allow science.
^Yet Muslims are the ones responsible for the development of sciences, modern medicine, mathematics, etc... without which you would have none of what you claim. It's funny you mention rockets, planes, cars, etc... because without Muslim discovery and engineering these things wouldn't have been. A crankshaft, a primitive rocket (not vx rocket), pistons, combustion, the scientific method all things that cmae through Muslims but Muslims don't get credit for.
Just as you feel followers of religion have blind faith, the fact that science does not explain everything by default means that believing solely in science is indeed blind faith. The blind faith component is believing matter just began and came out of nowhere. Dont fool yourself into thinking that athiests have no blind faith component in their thinking.
Science does not explain everything because science is still moving forward.Who created GOD? God <--WTF
The only reason that religion explains everything is because it's the same explanation FOR everything.
What's that light in the sky? God
What happens when you die? God
What happens below the subatomic level? God
Why did that earthquake strike Haiti? God
If you have one answer to every question, then of course that explains everything.
I think the Chinese might want to have a word with you about the invention of rockets....
Allah= GOD. GOD isnt imaginary :)
Sorry to burst you bubble then, old chap. Allah = imaginary.
It has been pointed out several times that muslims didnt event half the shit they take credit for. Previously he claimed muslims invented gunpowder. Another chinese invention. This guy love to quote from his biased islamic websites which makes up stuff as they go along.
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dont click this, who knows what garbage it will infect your computer with.True it may have led you to a islamic site where all garbage lives.
True it may have led you to a islamic site where all garbage lives.
Thanks for pointing it out so I could set it straight ;)
I pray to Allah to guide you.
I hope you know i dont hate you Stefano, I hate the foolish things you post though and the bad things you say, your a fellow human, you deserve the truth.
Dont take me as an enemy. I was foolsih and couldnt hold my anger, Islam teaches us to hold our anger and not respond harshly even if were insulted. I just wanted to say sorry if I have insulted you personally, I hate your beliefs not you. I will continue to debate with you peacefully, but this name-calling is just nonsense.
I hope you find the truth. watch this video:
Stefano all the so called 'convert from islam to christianity' videos have already been exposed for fraud (not to say there aren't ignorant people who didn't know about Islam to begin with and were born in a muslim country but embraced islam).
You realize you sound as ignorant and hateful as the qureish pagans. The same methods, lies, deception and speech that they used, you are repeating. It's quite hilarious.
Yet here we are, despite all the hate and lies, people find out about Islam and are embracing Islam. The same kind of garbage you're spewing peaked my interest and ultimately led me to becoming Muslim. You are not doing anyone a service by being foul mouthed as you are.
Nope unlike Christianity we do not need rhetorical emotional non-sense or fake videos. Those who accept Islam are intellectual, educated and rational people and chose the religion despite all animosity including examples of your own animosity. Your animosity increases my faith and doesn't decrease it.
Christian missionaries rely on emotional rhetoric as their sole invitation to christianity, no one even knows or can agree upon what christianity even is as we've seen in the debates. And likewise they prey on the weak and poor in africa, asia, south america.
The opposite is true with Islam, university educated people are chosing to become Muslim and stay Muslim.
The facts are facts. As was already mentioned of the 4 million muslims in America, 1 million are converts to Islam.
You may hate it, you may despise it but these are the facts.
What do you have to offer me in christianity? Guidance? I don't think so. I was a Christian.
LOL my knowledge of Islam comes from Islam.... WOW MIND BLOWN!
Yes I am white, neither Arab or Desi. Bobber can attest to it as I actually met him in real life. :)
You sound more desperate every day man. You know what else? My mother, grandmother, father and younger uncle embraced Islam. You angry now :D lol.
Oooh typical muslim born to muslim family oooh. You're sounding stupid man. For a second you didn't think that someone who accepted Islam would agree and know what Islam teaches?
You don't know a single basic thing that Islam teaches. You just OWNED yourself in the other thread where your ignorance was demonstrated. Hardcore.
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lol at repeatedly posting one video and those other refuted fake ex converts.
One can post thousands of videos from christians, jews, atheists, budhists becoming muslims :) And they stay muslims.
Some of these 'ex muslims' you speak of lol they were living a life solely based on the idea of living this life alone anyway they want. So becoming a 'christian' (even though its far off from what Jesus thought) and doing whatever you want and being 'saved' is not very hard is it? Nothing changes, just the label.
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The only true converts to islam are people with severe psychological issues. You can see that in the way that they talk. They have the need to be controlled and since christianity is Less aggressive than it used to be they turn to something that fulfills their need to be told what to do. If it wasnt for islam they would have joined another religion.
More muslims are leaving islam. This is an easily observable fact. The fact that more people are converting to islam is just a conservative right wing tactic to create fear. Most of the islam conversion news are manufactured to get more conservatives to return to the churches in greater numbers. "Since you live in canada you can see this for yourself. Go to colleges and see how the new generation of muslims act. Viaot athiest gatherings and you'll see that there are plenty of ex muslims who saw the truth about islams vile behaviour. Too bad your only outlet to the workd is the internet. Go to the corner at the eaton center and listen to the laughs as muslims try their best to get people to convert. Most muslims dont even want to be part of islam. They play the part becuase of the fear islam instills and the repercussions for those who leave it.
I feel sorry for you, old chap.
One day you can open your eyes and realize what you have been fed. Make today be that date.
Many Christians have converted to Islam and many Muslims have converted to Christianity. There are more videos on youtube about both types of conversions than I have fingers and toes to count. That said, go out to youtube and enjoy them!!
the proof is all around you. I mean how much more proof do you need? YOUR the one with the blindfold on. Go do some research, make today be that date
the proof is all around you. I mean how much more proof do you need? YOUR the one with the blindfold on. Go do some research, make today be that date
Atheists have done there research, cant you see.
Beleive in no god, but beleive in jesus.der.
There ya go. Of course achmutt/truelygay69 would dismiss and muslims converting to christianity and cheer the opposite.
He sees only what he wants to see and all his information comes from radical8islamic sites where its normal practice to dismiss anything that doesnt fall into the confines of islam.
Thats one of the stupidest things i've read. Then again you dont come across as someone with any intelligence.
Let me set you straight
I defend christians on this board because they at least conduct themselves in a civil manner. They arent trying to start shit with other religions or to claim they are superior. This has nothing to do with god or jesus.
Is the getbig islamic faction angry that no one respects them after they engage in bully tactics? Shocking.
you want to engage in a civilized discussion fine but when you start insulting other religions and their faiths dont expect everyone to stand by and let you continue unchallenged.
We are the most civil on the board! lol, its losers like you who kept slandering islam an being uncivil!.
Also bullying ::) ::) LOL! we give you the truth! we give you evidence, since thats a bitter pill, you get angry! you hate the truth, so you say "oh their bullying"! THE TRUTH HURTS! keep losing sleep over the truth! keep thinkin of ways to set the truth aside! but as they say the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE :-* :-* :-*
you want to talk about challenges? LOL more like Muslims are standing up to YOUR potshots and challanges! your like the bully that gets his ass kicked then goes crying and tells the teacher, pretending to be the victim! when all along HE was the one talking trash, until someone came and gave his own medicine.
like I said, you losing ground Stefano, your losing the battle!! you better get on your REAL account and get some back-up.
Keep thinking about us, I know we make you lose sleep :-* :-* :-*
I know the truth hurts you Stefano!
I see the truth. you dont. you can live in your fantasy world son keep dreaming, keep lying, I know islam an the truth makes you shit yourself, the TURH HURTS. you only hate muslims becuase they bring you the cold hard truth and shove it in your ugly face! you can run and hide Stefano, but when death comes its too late to change! what you do in this life will effect how you spend the next.
My mother's mother initially would not talk to my mother, but alhamdulillah now they have become interested more in islam as my mom is trying toMaybe the easily manipulated Gene skipped your grandmother! Just wait until your grandmother suffers dementia, and then ramming your nonsense down her throat will be easier, you can then tell her she is deluded, and that she has been a Muslim all her life,educatebrainwash my grandmother on Islam
Please keep your sick and mentally disturbed self out of this thread. And don't talk about my grandmother or family. You should be the one talking. Your father abused you and molested you as a child and you yourself are a sick product despite being now 40+ years of age and only infested with sick and evil thinking.Your anger is a testament to how lowly evolved Muslims are, I remember when you at least used to try and hold it all together, now you just openly melt down, spew out bile and lies and show the true colours of the average devout Muslim. It is no surprise to me that you finally exposed yourself as the angry lying hypocrite that Muslims almost always indeed are, You insult my family, but think somehow your family is off limits, Crazy Muslims, their lack of self awareness is disturbing. It pleases me that you are no longer putting on the façade that most Muslims do of being some righteous pious Muslim and have now before comfortable expressing your hate and anger that the majority of Muslims feel. (This gives a chance for others to see Muslims for what they really are, Muslim anger may be dangerous to the community, but at least it is Genuine). All you need now is to find a group of like minded angry Muslims (shouldn't be too hard), create a "BEHEAD all INFIDELS" sign, and then go to a nice quiet neighbourhood and protest loudly and collectively get even more worked up. Make sure you take Granny so she can see how the Muslims like to roll, it may be this side of Islam that really appeals to her. Say Hi to your Grandma for me.
Are you kidding me? Are you demanding respect? Respect is earned, and quite frankly with all the insults, hatred, mockery, and outright rage you have spewed, spilled and thrown at Muslims, Islam and myself. Do you honestly think I will respond to you with a generous response? You are the one that has 'melt down' in dozens of threads that simply try to show what Islam believes. You are an angry, hateful and evil person.I don't demand anything, that's what MUSLIMS do remember, they demand others respect their rapist pedo prophet, they demand others respect their HATE FILLED VIOLENT ideology, they demand good communities everywhere tolerate their violence, their anger, their hatred, their delusions and their LIES. The last thing I would ever want, is for people who follow such an evil ideology to respect me. You seem to be unaware that you have tried to force your lies and propaganda down everyone's throats here AND even though they have repeatedly told you they are not interested, like the typical Muslim, you than blame others for criticising you, all you had to do, is listen to those when they said, stop being obnoxious, offensive and force feeding your nonsense to those who aren't interested, but you couldn't help yourself, your brainwashing was too deep, and now you are considered just another CRAZY MUSLIM, it is Good you are showing your true colours though, that way people can truly see what ISLAM really is. This is the TRUTH about ISLAM, first Muslims will try and convert you with a false piousness and demeanour, they will praise you every time you fall for the next piece of their propaganda, but once they realise you are not interested, and actually find their ideology comparable to NAZISM, they will direct intense Hatred towards you, they will lie and cheat and if they have a chance, they would strike you down and kill you if they could. Your regular displays of ANGER and HATRED is all the public needs to see to realise what ISLAM is truly about, thank-you at last for finally exposing the TRUTH abut the sick ideology you believe in and for giving up the pretence of being a decent human being.
Here I am in this thread, no ill towards anyone, and you jump in here to insult my mother and insult my grandmother with your demented hate. You deserve not an atom's worth of respect. And in equity I responded to what you, your father and the product that you have turned out to be and are.
May God guide you from the evil contempt and hatred that is instilled with you from childhood. But until then, it changes nothing as your behavior is disgusting.
I don't demand anything, that's what MUSLIMS do remember, they demand others respect their rapist pedo prophet, they demand others respect their HATE FILLED VIOLENT ideology, they demand good communities everywhere tolerate their violence, their anger, their hatred, their delusions and their LIES. The last thing I would ever want, is for people who follow such an evil ideology to respect me. You seem to be unaware that you have tried to force your lies and propaganda down everyone's throats here AND even though they have repeatedly told you they are not interested, like the typical Muslim, you than blame others for criticising you, all you had to do, is listen to those when they said, stop being obnoxious, offensive and force feeding your nonsense to those who aren't interested, but you couldn't help yourself, your brainwashing was too deep, and now you are considered just another CRAZY MUSLIM, it is Good you are showing your true colours though, that way people can truly see what ISLAM really is. This is the TRUTH about ISLAM, first Muslims will try and convert you with a false piousness and demeanour, they will praise you every time you fall for the next piece of their propaganda, but once they realise you are not interested, and actually find their ideology comparable to NAZISM, they will direct intense Hatred towards you, they will lie and cheat and if they have a chance, they would strike you down and kill you if they could. Your regular displays of ANGER and HATRED is all the public needs to see to realise what ISLAM is truly about, thank-you at last for finally exposing the TRUTH abut the sick ideology you believe in and for giving up the pretence of being a decent human being.
HAHAHA look whos talking! E-kul the talking peice of crap! Your nothing but an angry, lonely middle aged failure. Even animals know your trash! thats why those Pitbulls came after you! they wanted to clean their surrounding of SCUM.
Don't let his sociopathic and psychopathic insults and degenerative comments anger you. It angers me too to see such filth coming out of his speech but don't let that lead to us Muslims speaking on his level. At times I respond to him in equity, but we must remind each other and correct each other and try to be steadfast despite the many people's animosity on here.
They have foul speech often times, but we mustn't let it brush off on us, I know I'm not perfect either but let us remind each other as Muslims to try our best to follow the example of prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who never swore or used foul language. Remind me as well inshAllah.
O ye who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do. 5:8
Please keep your sick and mentally disturbed self out of this thread. And don't talk about my grandmother or family. You should be the one talking. Your father abused you and molested you as a child and you yourself are a sick product despite being now 40+ years of age and only infested with sick and evil thinking.
InshAllah bro, I will check it out tomorrow. Going to sleep now. Assaalmu Alaikum.Why do you continue to abuse drugs?
“They teach that if you want to be a good Muslim you must separate off from non-Muslims…It's only Tablighi Jamaat – of all the Islamic groups – that has created ghettos over in Toronto, in Canada. They're all around the world, this is a huge group and wherever they go they create barriers, hostility, division, they create separatism," Alan Craig, campaign director of ‘Mega Mosque No Thanks,’ which is actively opposing its construction, told RT.
Hey E-Kul, you seem to love demented pictures.
Btw, I am still proudly Muslim after watching your pathetic video :)
Black Americans are also rapidly embracing Islam, it is the white men of America that oppressed the black man.
"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefor listen to what I am saying to you very carefully & TAKE THESE WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.
O people, just as you regard this month, this city as sacred, so regard the life & property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury(Interest), therefor all Interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer inequity.
Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.
O people it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your waives only under ALLAH's trust & with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed & clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well & be kind to them for they are your partners & committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friendship with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.
O people, listen to me earnest, worship your LORD, say your five daily prayers, fast during the month of Ramadan, & give your wealth to Zakat(Charity). Perform Hajj if you can afford to.
All mankind are from Adam & Eve, an Arab has no Superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has superiority over an Arab;ALSO a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety & good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to another Muslim & that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood.Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow muslim unless it was given freely & willingly. Do not therefor, do unjustice to yourselves.
Remember, one day you will appear before the GOD & answer for your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.
O people, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME & NO FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefor, O people, understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, The QURAN & my examples the Sunnah & if you follow these you will never go astray.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)'s last sermon
So you're yet another gimmick lol. Why so much anger?
All the prophets had revelations through dreams, many did through angels, especially gabriel when it was of much importance. What's so upsetting to you about this?
Actually I was playing under a Christmas tree as a 'young lad' but then again I knew very little about history, religion, etc... as a child. I know you're fuming but there's no need.
Christmas is indeed pagan and has absolutely NOTING to do with Jesus (peace be upon him). Just relabelled packagingsaturnaliachristmas andSaturn"Christ".
Jesus would certainly not approve of pagan festivities. After all it is the romans that were oppressing the Jews.
So why do you carry dust on your shoes all the time? Were you in the desert?
It's kinda lame to throw dust at others when you're the one in deep tutu yourself.
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? Mathew 7:3
lol@ill equiped and deal with a christian who knows the gospel. Yeah I can tell.
You speak like the angry Jews that oppressed Jesus rather than Jesus. Filled with pride, arrogance, hate and anger when faced with God's clear and simple message.
Actually you will mostly find emotional people turning to Christianity, while you will find western university educated individuals embracing Islam after doing their research, introspection, studying, etc...
Actually, I find you to bestupid in an intredasting waysaying the truth.
Why did super duper allah let millions of children starve to death last year?
Why did super duper allah let millions of children starve to death last year?I'm not a Muslim, but I tend to question why God's empowered creation allows it's own millions to starve, suffer and die when we've all been given the tools and resources (by God) to prevent such tragedy? Making God the scapegoat in order to ignore our own accountability doesn't seem right to me, but it sure is convenient!
That's not very merciful.
Why did super duper allah let millions of children starve to death last year?
That's not very merciful.
Religion is a system of wishful illusions together with a disavowal of reality, such as we find nowhere else but in a state of blissful hallucinatory confusion. ― Sigmund FreudOrganized religion isn't a prerequisite for salvation through Christ...it's a free gift to all. The Holy Spirit is made manifest in the lives of believers and tranforms lives even today!! Sigmund Freud was just a simple man and no amount of psychoanalysis will allow one to esacpe the Lord's purview. Saying something is illusory doesn't make it so, but experiencing a personal relationship with the Holy Spirit will easily refute Freud's casual dismissal of a transcendent God.
it is indeed merciful, Allah tests people, sometime in extreme opposite ways. A very poor person and a very rich person, are both being tested. the rich bcome arrogant and greedy, not giving chairity or refusing to give up power(look at dicators of middle east) and rather kill people to stay on power...ect
poor people in ISLAM have a high status. the poor will enter paradise far before the rich and powerful(kings, politicans).
anytime a person struggles, even if its a headache or somthing as big as Hunger,starvation poverty,cancer ...ect erases sins
Not everyone who calls out to me, Lord! Lord! will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22 On judgment day many will say to me, Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name. 23 But I will reply, I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break Gods laws.Matthew 7:21-23I'll explain those verses to you later ahmed and I'll add the all important context to them!!
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, Go in peace, be warmed and filled, without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, You have faith and I have works. Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. ...James 2:14-26
Islam also teaches that we enter heaven by God's mercy and not our deeds. However we will be judged by our deeds as well. Islam teaches responsibility and justice.
Also everyone will have a different status in heaven by what they earned in this life, but no one will have envy or jealousy of one another. By our efforts will we achieve a greater status in heaven. The highest status being the highest level of heaven called janatul firdous. Which is where all the prophets, messengers, martyrs and people of highest piety will be in the literal presence of God. The other places in heaven will be amazing as well and no one will feel envy of those who are in a greater status in heaven nor feel such but it is our goal to be in the presence of God almighty, what an honor.
Two different things being treated as equal is a form of injustice.
A person who does good and a person who does evil are not equal. Although God is merciful to mankind, God is also just.
lol...
The difference between what you believe and what we believe is that:
We believe: we enter heaven by God's mercy first and foremost nto our deeds. However that we are to compete for good works, we'll be judged by our good and evil deeds. God is merciful but also JUST, so those that are evil will be punished for their evil but depending on what it is God can forgive them as he is the most merciful and knows what's in everyone's hearts, their conditions and their situations. Certain people of faith will be thrown into hellfire to be cleansed for the evil they did but as they believed in God with no partners they will be eventually taken out of hellfire and be granted heaven. However people who do not believe in God, reject God, who worship the creation will be in the hellfire for eternity.
You believe: Accept Jesus as god, you are saved, live your life maybe do good things just because its good but don't worry you'll enter heaven just because you accept jesus as god. Those who reject Jesus as god they go to hell.
Inequity and injustice. To top it off, not following God's law, corruption ensues as can be seen in the christian world, misguidance ensues as can be seen in the christian world. Everyone does whatever they want and they believe they are 'saved'.
Published on 14 Apr 2012
*** Update: Young Bara'ah has passed away. May Allah SWTA join her with her mother and father in the highest levels of Jannah. Ameen.
This is the recitation of Bara'ah, a 10 year old girl diagnosed with Cancer. She is reciting from Surah Saffaat, Ayahs 83-102.
Here is her story:
Bara'ah is a 10 year old who finished memorizing the whole Qur'an with Tajweed. Her parents were doctors who moved to Saudi Arabia in search of better life. Bara'ah was very intelligent. Her teacher used to tell her that she should be in middle school not primary school.
Her family was small and committed to Islam and its teachings. One day, her mother began experiencing severe abdominal pain. After going to the hospital and diagnostics tests and imaging performed, it was discovered that she had cancer, but in its late stages.
The mother thought she should tell her daughter, especially if she wakes up one day and didn't find her mother beside her. Being at the young tender age of 10, her mother told her: "Bara`ah, I will go to paradise ahead of you, but I want you to read the Quran you memorized every day since it will protect you in this life."
The little girl didn't really understand what her mother was trying to tell her, but she began feeling the change in her mother's status. Soon, her mother was was transferred to stay in the hospital on a permanent basis. Bara'ah used to come to the hospital after school and recite the Quran for her mother until the evening when her father would take her home.
One day the hospital called the husband and informed him that the his wife's condition had deteriorated and that it would be advisable to come to the hospital immediately. The father picked up Bara`ah from school and headed to the hospital. When they arrived, he asked her to stay in the car so he could first see what the condition of his wife was.
The father got out of the car with tears filled in his eyes. While crossing the road to enter the hospital, he was hit by a speeding car and died in front of his daughter who came crying to her father.
The tragedy of Bar`ah is not over yet. The news of her father's death was hidden from the mother. Her condition steadily worsened, and 5 days later, she passed away leaving Bar`ah alone without her parents. Her parents' friends decided to find her relatives in Egypt so that they could take care of her.
Soon thereafter, Bara`ah began having severe pain, similar to what her mother experienced. At the hospital, she too was diagnosed with cancer. At the surprise of everyone she said, "Alhamdulillah, now I will meet my parents."
All of the family friends were shocked at her response. This little girl, being faced with calamity after calamity, yet she remained patient and satisfied with what Allah ordained for her!
The news of Bara'ah and her story spread. One Saudi heard of her story and decided to take care of her. He sent her to the UK to receive the appropriate treatment for her condition.
In the UK, her condition worsened and the cancer spread throughout her body with metastasis in multiple organs. The doctors had to amputate her legs, yet she still remained patient. Soon, the cancer spread to her brain the doctors had to do brain surgery. Bara'ah went into a full coma.
Before she went into coma, one of the Islamic channels (Al Hafiz - The protector) got in contact with this little girl and asked her to recite the Qur'an. This video is of her beautiful recitation of Surah Saffaat.
“Religion is a system of wishful illusions together with a disavowal of reality, such as we find nowhere else but in a state of blissful hallucinatory confusion. ” ― Sigmund Freud
“Religion is a system of wishful illusions together with a disavowal of reality, such as we find nowhere else but in a state of blissful hallucinatory confusion. ” ― Sigmund Freud
Two words: Penis. Envy.I quote Freud, you then mock one of his theories that you obviously don't understand, you then insult me all the while being an OVERT Hypocrite and claiming that type of behaviour isn't civilised or something you would do and you then go on to pat yourself on the back believing you somehow taught me a lesson. WoW! This is why Religious zealots are considered to be NUTS, not only do they cling to make believe, they lack any shred of self awareness that would help raise them above their need to cling to such falsehoods and religious indoctrination. What is the first step to developing self awareness and insight?, first realise you don't have any. Freud will continue to be remembered for a long time due to his intelligence and insight into the human condition, you and the rest of the average God Botherers will continue to be considered irrelevant now and long after you are gone.
And people such as yourself think those with faith in God are ridiculous.
I certainly don't envy you and there are times you can be quite the dick....errrrr... "penis". ;)
Learn to be civil when you disagree with someone or you will be taught a lesson. Like you just were. ;D
I quote Freud, you then mock one of his theories that you obviously don't understand, you then insult me all the while being an OVERT Hypocrite and claiming that type of behaviour isn't civilised or something you would do and you then go on to pat yourself on the back believing you somehow taught me a lesson. WoW! This is why Religious zealots are considered to be NUTS, not only do they cling to make believe, they lack any shred of self awareness that would help raise them above their need to cling to such falsehoods and religious indoctrination. What is the first step to developing self awareness and insight?, first realise you don't have any. Freud will continue to be remembered for a long time due to his intelligence and insight into the human condition, you and the rest of the average God Botherers will continue to be considered irrelevant now and long after you are gone.
I've already said here that I am not come to make such as you wear shoes. Perhaps you are too ignorant to understand that? Silly faux child of iniquity. I mock such as you.What the fuck!, put the bottle down dude, it is hard enough to converse with an idiot as it is, let alone an inebriated one.
What you think of me is of little consequence. In the end, it will still be the end.
what the f*ck would you know about ghettos, sell out?
You sell a lot of gold, I guess he's just jelly. Try not to bite their bait, it just destroys perfectly education threads. Seriously 24kt you've done it in that other thread of mine and they just derailed everything that's these idiots' intent.
That out of the way. Those hadiths speak of the future, where, the Jews will cause so much chaos on the earth and they will be ultimately led by the anti-christ as their worldly king.
You sell a lot of gold, I guess he's just jelly. Try not to bite their bait, it just destroys perfectly education threads. Seriously 24kt you've done it in that other thread of mine and they just derailed everything that's these idiots' intent.Yeah, remember Good propaganda has to just highlight one side of the story, you have to eliminate opposing views and pretend that our view is the most popular. If you actually ignore any opposition, it is far easier to remain indoctrinated and in a state of ignorant bliss.
lol if you go into google and say "Jews will" the first thing that comes up is Jews will destroy the world. Kind of hilarious. The third says start world war 3.
The qur'an and hadi'th do not condemn all Jews, but certain Jews who cause chaos on the earth. Who despite being given the truth, reject the truth, they have had many many mighty prophets and messengers sent to them, yet they were haughty. Disobidient. Trying to ridicule, humiliate, kill, the prophets and messengers. Again not all Jews.
Even when being led by Moses, they were almost instantly always turning around and disobidient.
In modern times, zionists look at the chaos they cause? One can see that and interpret it that way. Political lobbying. Proxy warfare. Palestine the land of Jesus. Federal reserve bank. Hollywood. Amongst other things. Did you know it was the Israeli intelligence that provided the 'information' to attack Iraq, false information. "Weapons of mass destruction". Likewise with Iran.
The bottom line is they will be led by the anti-christ. Remember they rejected Jesus as the messiah, so they await still 'their messiah'. We muslims accept Jesus as the messiah and await Jesus' return as the messiah and to rule the world by God's law and set the world straight. Jesus will fight when he returns and kill the anti-christ.
Zionist also are not Godly people, they are atheists, secularists, that's what zionism was founded by. Orthodox Jews were against zionism and against the creation of Israel in Palestine.
The anti-christ will appear from an area in Iran, followed by 40,000 persians Jews if I recall wearing blue shawls which Irani Jews wear traditionally.
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I thought you meant the Google search results, not the Google search field. But either way you are wrong.
"Jews Will Be Saved" shows up first.
It was thanks to you that I found that news article, no matter who was quoted in it.
So why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Lying is bad for you, being coy is bad for you and using bad information is bad for you.
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lol@ getting your information from a fraud. Walid Shoebat was exposed as a fraud, liar and a pathetic profiteer. He is exploiting your ignorance and the ignorance of those like you.
It's easy for any morons today to make money off of anti islam propaganda. Anyone can make up anything and say oh yeah this is what mozzlemz are up to.
This guy is hilarious lol.
"Experts" haha
And lol@ getting your news from evangelical websites HAHAHA
Yeah, remember Good propaganda has to just highlight one side of the story, you have to eliminate opposing views and pretend that our view is the most popular. If you actually ignore any opposition, it is far easier to remain indoctrinated and in a state of ignorant bliss.
"He" also can't face the truth that his "prophet" was an illiterate pedophile who currently resides in Hell.
Do our resident Muslims have some kind for partnership with YouTube or something? Dang! ???
I don't mind a YouTube video here and there, but...Dang!!!! :-\
Do our resident Muslims have some kind for partnership with YouTube or something? Dang! ???
I don't mind a YouTube video here and there, but...Dang!!!! :-\
What the fuck!, put the bottle down dude, it is hard enough to converse with an idiot as it is, let alone an inebriated one.
We need sensible voices in the discussion of islam such as those of avxo, loon, ekul, man of steel, onetimehard, garebear and many others who have demonstrated clear thinking and objectivity. The voice of an islamic zealot cannot be counted on to tell the truth.
We need to see the actions of muslims worldwide....and what better way to show them than showing real world muslim actions not empty rhetoric performed by islamic drones of questionable education and morals.
I know you're a huge video fan achmutt so stay tuned for some real education :-*
Have a glorious day
meltdownX2 This is why a-ahmeds preaching is so odious, either he is a complete ignoramus who is unaware of the evil performed in the name of Islam, or he knows about it, but derives some sick perverse pleasure from misleading others to attract them to the religion, so they can then be brainwashed and unable to leave once they discover everything about ISLAM. If he told the truth about his religion, that it has EVIL aspects and that it isn't so great, but for him it has provided safety in numbers and a sense of security because he can count on the predictability of ISLAM, then others might be prepared to listen, but instead, Muslims ignore the reality of ISLAM, sell it has a cure all for all that ails you and then wonder why people give them the same respect as a snake oil salesman. If ISLAM was any good, it would encourage Honesty, instead it encourages Deceit as a means to and end. Islam is a JOKE!
when towel heads stop committing terrorists acts maybe people will take you more seriously
HAHAHA!!!! this is called the EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS ABOUT ISLAM THREAD...did you not see the Video part? come on man...
My thread, which was not about videos, got merged into this one by the mods because Muslims spammed it. >:(
are not is :P
I thank Allah (swt) every day for guiding me to Islam... I feel sorry for the people who have so much pride, arrogance and anger in them to not learn about islam. If people knew about the beauty of islam they would find peace in their lives. Instead they are only filled with anger and hate when they spew ignorance about islam.
You will see the same in other people who have embraced islam, especially those that were once so angry at islam (in ignorance) and then when they actually learned about islam after years of denial and not actually taking the effort to learn islam.. they realize they wasted so many years. So many people spew and repeat the same lies and hate, yet they themselves never actually opened a qur'an. They go to websites that spread hate and misinformation.
Even more funny is when Muslims try to explain what our religion is, they will go "NO NO you are LIYING" .... lol that's how much denial, hate and anger has been struck into these people's heads.
Knowledge is the cure to ignorance. Alas people are misled by false knowledge and false information and remain ignorant while they think they know but really don't know anything at all about islam.
Yet he lived his life in poverty and gave away everything as much as possible and normally refused gifts.
And prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said the poor will be the first to enter heaven.
I love how you say everything OPPOSITE of what islam actually is, yet you claim its islam. It's fascinating.
Also Islam did not 'steal' or 'borrow' anything from judaism or christianity, it reaffirms what was up until Jesus. It just continues the message, affirms and finalizes it for all mankind.
Peace be up on you :) This is the greeting in islam.
those big bad muslims bullying you loco? :'(
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No this is the greeting of the prophets and we employ it in our lives.
You know not Christ, butthead. Your prophet is a farce and your God is not God. Take a hike with your rote.
The lowest of those in heave will be granted houses and homes that are equal to all the kingdoms of this world, all the mansions and palces incomparable to this world. That each time you come there is something new awaiting you. That the homes will be decorated with gold, silver, diamonds, in the most extravagent and beautiful ways. There will be no envy, no jealousy, no suspicion of anyone. Peace, as it says in the qur'an peace will be greeting upon everyone every day.
So you have a problem that Muhammad (pbuh) was taken up to heaven? Okay. That's fine I can' convince you, it's a matter of faith but I do not ridicule you or any of the other miracles in the bible, we believe in them too. It is God who does what he wants.
You also find it a problem that in Islam people will be given pious women in paradise?
it is indeed merciful, Allah tests people, sometime in extreme opposite ways. A very poor person and a very rich person, are both being tested. the rich bcome arrogant and greedy, not giving chairity or refusing to give up power(look at dicators of middle east) and rather kill people to stay on power...ectYou do realise this nonsense is based on the just world theory, a theory that is completely false. What you are suggesting is the same idea buddhists have of karma, that if you are experiencing suffering you somehow deserved it. It is a perverse and evil idea indeed, and one that religious nutjobs somehow relish in telling others about. What did those children murdered at school in connecticut do to deserve such a test? By telling yourself that these things happen for a some unknown reason because the almighty has some twisted plan is a complete cop out, it is a way for humans to avoid taking responsibility for themselves and their community. Bad stuff happens because humans are too busy being self centred and following religious obsessions rather than taking care of their fellow man. If humanity put as much effort into helping each other as it does to being focused on an imaginary deity, the world would be far better off, and GOD would finally get the peace and quiet he deserves. :o
poor people in ISLAM have a high status. the poor will enter paradise far before the rich and powerful(kings, politicans).
anytime a person struggles, even if its a headache or somthing as big as Hunger,starvation poverty,cancer ...ect erases sins
I honestly have not watched a single video.Same, it really is quite embarrassing, and they wonder why we think they are MAD MUSLIMS! and I thought the evangelism of the Jehovahs Witnesses was bad.
Why would anyone actually take the time to watch any of that? It's just uninteresting.
Posting all of these videos is much more "trolling" than I am.
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I've requested that all of my posts in here be deleted, but no one is listening.
There is no envy or jealousy in jannah. Everyone will be content and what you have will always increase in your eyes you will never feel bored or unhappy.
I don't see where you don't grasp that part. Your perception is small.
Also islam is very just. 7 heavens, you get rewarded for what you do, not a one size fits all. the more good deeds you do, the better your reward.Sounds Great, I guess if it is based on GOOD DEEDS their will be no Muslims their then. Because the last thing anyone wants is to live next door to one of those Mad Muslims. IS their a place for humans who practised an evil ideology like ISLAM on earth and as a result caused unimaginable suffering?
Sounds Great, I guess if it is based on GOOD DEEDS their will be no Muslims their then. Because the last thing anyone wants is to live next door to one of those Mad Muslims. IS their a place for humans who practised an evil ideology like ISLAM on earth and as a result caused unimaginable suffering?
I have an honest question for you:I'm Great, I just don't like evil Ideologies like NAZISM, Maoism and ISLAM, and as a concerned human being, I feel a moral imperative to stand up for what is right! What strikes me as particular odd about Muslims, is that they expect people to embrace it. Islam is a perverse EVIL and the human race will be better off without it, This is NOT HATE, this is done out of a LOVE for humanity. Why would any human being want to promote a hateful, despotic and evil ideology like ISLAM, to do so with an air of nonchalance makes it even more odious. ISLAM will go down in HISTORY as a failed religion and seen in the same light as NAZISM, and just like NAZISM it will be banned and scorned, of this I have no doubt. Because of your brainwashing, you couldn't consider for a moment that you are wrong and those who oppose ISLAM are right. If you are so brainwashed that you think you have a monopoly on the TRUTH, you are beyond help, beyond redemption, and this is why ISLAM needs to be banned, it shuts down their reasoning abilities, and encourages extremes that are not only bad for them in the long term, but bad for everyone else as well.
why are you so bitter? has a loved one passed away? fired from job? kicked out of school? wife left you? whats happend to you man? are you happy with your current life? you seem so angry all the time!
I suggest you get help.
Not as sick as marrying a nine year old girl like your "prophet" did.
Towel head.
Remember when some Muslims punked that girl in Pakistan by shooting her in the face? Man, that was wacky.
Someone should post a video about that so that we can be reminded of the great sense of humor Muslims have.
what are you talking about?! it was a random event! the guy somehow randomly got on the bus and by chance he happend to have a gun in his hand, which by chance was filled with bullets! and by chance as he walked by the girl the gun went off shooting her randomly in the face! then randomly his legs started moving and he ran off the bus in a random direction. its all by chance, dont you see?!!Haha. Right.
what are you talking about?! it was a random event! the guy somehow randomly got on the bus and by chance he happend to have a gun in his hand, which by chance was filled with bullets! and by chance as he walked by the girl the gun went off shooting her randomly in the face! then randomly his legs started moving and he ran off the bus in a random direction. its all by chance, dont you see?!!Sounds eerily familiar, just like 9/11, some random Muslims, boarded a random plane and by chance flew it into a random building. All completely random you see.
Haha. Right.
And then the Taliban randomly took credit it for it and promised to do it again in the random future.
^Allahu Akbar, how relevant!
Sounds eerily familiar, just like 9/11, some random Muslims, boarded a random plane and by chance flew it into a random building. All completely random you see.
This is more of a video for Muslims to avoid innovations and stick to the sunnah:
God hates gays. This isn't just in Islam but all major religions. The people of sodom and gomorrah were destroyed by God and this is in the Quran and Bible. Homosexuality is a disgusting thing and should be stopped yet we see it being encouraged! I mean here in the USA ANYONE(Muslim, Christian or Jew) who comes out and says no to gays is scolded and labeled as intolerant. Like that whole chic-fil-a thing a few months ago(idk if you have those in AUS)The owner of the gym I go to is Gay, he seems just like anybody else to me, in my time I have also known a few people who were gay, they seemed just like any heterosexual person I met. It is funny that you want to be able to discriminate against gays, something you find disgusting and that should be stopped, but yet don't seem to think it is OK for others to discriminate against ISLAM if they think it is disgusting and that it should be stopped. Although Homosexuality is something I don't feel drawn too, I think their ideology for the most part is harmless, this can not be said about ISLAM, which inflicts unimaginable suffering everywhere it is followed.
What's your opinion on gays e-kul?
God hates gays. This isn't just in Islam but all major religions. The people of sodom and gomorrah were destroyed by God and this is in the Quran and Bible. Homosexuality is a disgusting thing and should be stopped yet we see it being encouraged! I mean here in the USA ANYONE(Muslim, Christian or Jew) who comes out and says no to gays is scolded and labeled as intolerant. Like that whole chic-fil-a thing a few months ago(idk if you have those in AUS)
What's your opinion on gays e-kul?
God hates gays. This isn't just in Islam but all major religions. The people of sodom and gomorrah were destroyed by God and this is in the Quran and Bible. Homosexuality is a disgusting thing and should be stopped yet we see it being encouraged! I mean here in the USA ANYONE(Muslim, Christian or Jew) who comes out and says no to gays is scolded and labeled as intolerant. Like that whole chic-fil-a thing a few months ago(idk if you have those in AUS)
God destroyed a whole tribe of people for being Homos and fufuilling their lust with men! now how can anyone a Muslim, Christian or Jew be ok with seeing guys holding hands and kissing on the streets?
It only bothers closet homosexuals.
Other people don't care.
God hates sinners and loves dooers of good. GOd is most merciful and would accept sincere repantance of those that were once sinning whatever the sin may be.
However to say "God loves sinners" is rhetorical non-sense of the chruch not scriptural at all, as God destroyed Sodom and Gomor and made an example of that brutally. Fact.
It's so funny listening to you saying what you're saying MOS, when you have gay priets and gay preachers now publicly endorsed and 'gay marriage' in the church. You are the ones perverting God's message and God's law and that's why you have all this misguidance. God does not love sinners. God does not love sin. God loves mankind that is obedient and good.
It doesn't even make sense a gay priest who likes to f guys, but then 'preaches the word of God' riight. Sodom and Gomorah my friend, Sodom and gomorah...
Bottom line is these sinners also have been brainwashed to believe they can keep doing what they're doing because they are already 'saved' for worshiping Jesus a man.
God destroyed a whole tribe of people for being Homos and fufuilling their lust with men! now how can anyone a Muslim, Christian or Jew be ok with seeing guys holding hands and kissing on the streets?
Yes, scripture says God hates the wicked, but that hatred is due to unrepentant hearts that choose sin over God…it’s our sin that mars us and makes us wicked.
No need for a long response, those that continue to sin are deliberate sinners and not repentant. There is plenty of knowledge on what is a sin and isn't a sin. God hates sin and the wicked. What is society becoming? Less corrupt or more corrupt? Certainly more corrupt as that which is forbidden by God is becoming a-okayed by Godless people and even enforced as law!No emotional rhetoric was used, just scripture. God's law is always followed. Salvation is a gift from God based on our faith in Christ. Scripture is not "man made", that's a convenient "go to" expression used by opponents of Christianity that has no merit or weight whatsoever. I didn't blame the Roman church for anything, I indicated that catholicism and christianity are not the same thing. The presentation of Christianity was not changed by me in anything I said.
I already stated before God is the most forgiving but homosexuals who persist in this sin will not get a free ticket as you jump from and to back and forth with 'salvation' by worshipping Jesus a man created by God.
Salvation comes through the mercy and forgiveness of God not human sacrifice.
My point is scripture says one thing but you jump around with 'salvation' and the usual emotional rhetoric of 'love'. It's only emotional rhetoric and not factual to scripture. What you label as offshoot small followings or sects or whatever you want to call them are becoming the norm.
Because you do not follow God's law and you follow man made law, that is why there is so much divergence. Don't blame the Roman Church from which Christianity ultimately spread from for it (Catholics).
The presentation of christianity has changed from you are going to hell for not worshipping Jesus/trinity and you are going to hell for sin a, sin b, to hey its okay just worship Jesus you are saved by this and that love. :)
No emotional rhetoric was used, just scripture. God's law is always followed. Salvation is a gift from God based on our faith in Christ. Scripture is not "man made", that's a convenient "go to" expression used by opponents of Christianity that has no merit or weight whatsoever. I didn't blame the Roman church for anything, I indicated that catholicism and christianity are not the same thing. The presentation of Christianity was not changed by me in anything I said.
Salam bobber :) been a while my bro :)
Did you know at one point the 'masses' being held, the preacher would never face the people, he would face them their back. It was in recent history that these 'small' things were changed. All masses were in latin too. So people were just led like blind sheeple. Whatever they were told is what they would believe, unable to read the scriptures for themselves, unable to understand latin, etc...
Protestantism also led the way to abolish the impermissibility of clergy marrying. As you know catholic priests are not allowed to marry and are sworn to celibacy their whole life.
Again things that are all man made and against the natural order of God's creation.. so people in christianity are confused. Unlike in islam, we HAVE the original message period, whoever deviates like sects, we know they are deviant and we can point out how, however with christianity from the very basis there was debate what it even is to be a christian, who jesus is/was, who God is, etc... On the very core.
The fact that the roman church abolish God's law and replaced it with men made laws, is in part the tribulation in christiainty.
That's what everyone from every religion says. Do you not even see the irony here?
Untrue. Name one Christian scholar who claims that the current day Bible is constructed from original manuscripts noted during the time of Jesus.
There were no manuscripts during the time Christ was on this earth as a man. The transmission of the gospel (before and after Christ's ascension) was done via oral tradition for many years before the first manuscripts were written (although the originals no longer exist....lost and destroyed). Memorization and oral communication was a tradition of the Jews and first Christians. The first Christians spent so many years in missionary service repeating the gospel over and over and over again it was seared into their brains LOL! Now, in early 2012 a 1st century manuscript of the gospel of Mark was found. I've been waiting for a year to hear the findings....supposed to be published early this year. Will be interesting having a 1st century manuscript written during the lives of eyewitnesses of Christ; in addition, a manuscript of Mark that shaped the synoptic gospels (Matthew and Luke). That's why the field of textual criticism is so important. I'm currently reading Daniel Wallace's book "Reinventing Jesus" concerning NT manuscripts and the field of textual criticism. It's a great refutation of those positions held by non textual critics (Jesus Seminar members) and liberal, textual critic Bart Ehrman that created such a stink with his extremist book "Misquoting Jesus".
Untrue. Name one Christian scholar who claims that the current day Bible is constructed from original manuscripts noted during the time of Jesus.
A gift is not conditional on faith in something. If Jesus did die for our sins, why would we then have to believe that he did just in order for his death's purpose to be fulfilled?
Well Islam used some of those texts, so its even worse for them!
Even more recycled and changed to fit in with their local culture.
As mentioned before, the culture of the pagan nomadic tribes of Arabia were incorporated into their new religion as was the black rock they pray to. This rock was worshiped by all the pagan tribes.
Islam is a fusion of local Arabic tribal culture with that of the Monotheistic books of Judaism and Christianity. Out of this combination, a new religion was formed.
Whenever its said that Islam used or recyled text it makes me laugh. As the writing in the qur'an is NOTHING like the bible. The bible and the quran are NOTHING alike... NOTHING.
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Thank you akhi for sharing all that mashAllah :)
Show us some more palaces and you can kill all the people you want.
We will believe in you!
Not as sore as that poor little girl was after a night with your "prophet"
Mary had jesus when she was 12-14 years old.
Im going to post this again. take a look and see how animals react to the name of God.
a skittish, scared animal fighting and screaming suddenly becomes calm and completey still when hearing the name of Allah.
Perfectly fine to post this again, but know that your thread wasn't deleted. It was merged into this existing video thread. You'll find it on page 32.
Thanks!
I look forward to the day these Islamic Camel Jockeys are expelled from civilised nations everywhere.
The solution for poverty is the empowerment of women and giving them control of their own reproduction, something that Islam does not allow.
The solution for poverty is the empowerment of women and giving them control of their own reproduction, something that Islam does not allow.
1. Muslim women can get educated infact it is ENCOURAGED for women to be doctors, teachers ..ect this way women can avoid seeing male doctors or being taught by male teachers::)
2. Women CAN WORK(if her husband is ok with it). and she keeps ALL of her money. the husband MUST pay for ALL of the familys expenses, but the women is free from the obligation and can spend it(or not spend it) how ever she wishes.
3. YES! some muslim contries(infact many of them) opress women, abuse them, leave them without education..ect. But that is not ISLAM and what ISLAM TEACHES!
Islam is is perfect, people are not.
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thats the truth man. Like i alwas say.So the truth, in your view, is that women are inferior and subject to the will of men.
Islam is a perfect religion. Muslims(we are all human beings) are not. all humans make mistakes/do wrong (except for the prophets ofcourse, like Moses, Jesus and Muhammad ect peace be upon them ALL)
So the truth, in your view, is that women are inferior and subject to the will of men.
There is no other way to interpret that. That's fine, but you don't get to claim otherwise from now on.
Be consistent or don't post.
Islam is so incredibly boring.
Wrong, camel jockey. You'll burn in hell just like your illiterate pedophile "prophet"
Hope this helps.
Wrong, camel jockey. You'll burn in hell just like your illiterate pedophile "prophet"
Hope this helps.
God is so merciful, he provides to all of mankind even if they are haughty or ungrateful. How many things to people take for granted each day, or do not realize what they have.
Every ungrateful person will only see what they don't have but miss out on the details of what they have.
I love camels ;D Horses too. They're awesome. I wish I had the time to do some horse riding here in Canada (srs). I rode horses when I was younger.
Cats are cool and there is a sahaba (companion) of the prophet (pbuh) who was dubbed abu hurairah, which means father of kittens. :P
Also Muhammad (pbuh) used to have a cat too if I recall. And some sahaba had birds.
I definitely like cats more than birds though.
Cats are winners
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God is so merciful, he provides to all of mankind even if they are haughty or ungrateful. How many things to people take for granted each day, or do not realize what they have.God is merciful?
Every ungrateful person will only see what they don't have but miss out on the details of what they have.
God is merciful?
He gives kids cancer and lets young mothers burn to death in their homes everyday. He also allowed slave-owners to die fat, happy and rich.
Pull you head out of your ass.
secondly the slaves are to be treated NICELY with FULL RIGHTS.
Does this statement even make sense to you?
Are you drunk right now?
❀ Who is he that will lend ALLAH a good loan so HE may multiply it for him many times over? And it is Allah who withholds and grants abundance, and to Him you will be return...ed. (Quran 2:245)
✿ The example of those who spend their wealth in the way of Allah is like a seed [of grain] which grows SEVEN spikes; in each spike is a HUNDRED grains. And Allah multiplies [His reward] for whom He wills. And ALLAH is all-Encompassing and Knowing. (Quran 2:261)
a brother said:I was drinking in this beautiful mug during my class today, then a Christian guest said: "I am intrigued by your mug" - When I asked 'why'? - he said that he never thought that Muslims love Jesus Christ peace be upon him - and this took us ...a while discussing the virtues and the importance of Jesus Christ PBUH in the house of Islam. Alhamdulilah - You see my brothers and sisters, you don't need to be a scholar to convey the message of Islam, a simple method is sufficient to raise people's curiosity about the faith. So be innovative share your ideas with others :)
It could have been the splash of red or the overabundance of hearts or the young man in designer jeans that caught his eye, but Sheikh Hamaad stopped under the bold “Valentine’s day Specials” banner, set his shopping basket on the floor and watched the young man battling to select an appropriate gift from the heaps of hearts, teddy bears, and chocolates. Like a busy humming bird he flitted from shelf to shelf struggling to choose.
Sheikh Hamaad approached him as he stood scratching his head, “Asalaamu Alaikum, young man, seems like you’re battling to make a choice.”
“Yes, Moulana, this is more difficult than I thought. And lucky I only have to choose for two of them,” he said, picking up another heart decorated teddy bear, examining the price and putting down with disappointment.
“For your sisters?” the Sheikh asked, feigning innocence.
“Naah, just friends, you know how it is. You have to do these things,” came the reply.
Sheikh Hamaad remained silent and fixed his gentle gaze on the young man, something more than the loud T-shirt and hipster jeans told him that this young man had more than a spark of intelligence.
“Tell me, how many Valentine’s gifts do your sisters receive?”
“Hey, hey…. Moulana my sisters are not like that. They don’t do this boyfriend thing. My sisters… they are pure,” exclaimed the young man an angry frown crossing his face. “Just let the guy try and send my sisters one flower and I’ll make him eat it. You don’t know me!”
“Oh,” said Sheikh Hamaad without any apology, “and your mother, how many Valentine’s gifts does she get?”
The young man took a step back and glared at Sheikh Hamaad, “La howla wa….” his words swallowed by his anger, “how can you even say such things about my mother? My mother, she doesn’t do this stuff. She is like an angel. She is pure. How can you say this?”
The sheikh paused, waiting for the silence to absorb the boy’s anger, then said, tauntingly, “So they don’t receive any Valentine’s gifts or have boyfriend’s at all.”
“I told you, Moulana, my family is pure and they don’t do this junk stuff.”
Knowing the moment was right the Sheikh put forward his reasoning, “So you really don’t like your sisters receiving these gifts or having boyfriends.”
“No ways,” came the emphatic reply, “not on my life.”
“Then don’t you think,” Sheikh ventured, “that other people would also not like their sisters, mothers or aunts to receive such gifts. Just as you would like your sisters to remain pure, they would also like their sisters to be pure?”
The young man dropped his head and shifted his feet nervously, “You have a point, Moulana. Didn’t ever think of it like that. I don’t want to say…but you are right. I shouldn’t be polluting other people’s family if I don’t like my family to be polluted. This is all quite wrong isn’t it?”
“Yes, it’s quite wrong,” without a hint of reprimand in his voice, “this is not our way.”
“But,” he asked, trying to conceal his embarrassment, “It’s not like we doing anything serious. I mean it’s only a gift. Not like we doing something physical…so it should be ok, no?”
Without disturbing his calmness, Sheikh Hamaad replied, “Do you like to go fishing?”
“Now you talking my language. Not a Sunday, not one, that we not by the dam,” he replied his hands waving with excitement, “We sit the whole day me and my buddies. First we prime the place with milie bombs. Just so the fish know we there. And they come, Moulana. They come for the bait. The whole lot, man….carpe, bass, barbell, you name it. But what’s that go to do with buying gifts.”
“When Shaytaan wants to trap someone,” Sheikh replied serenely, “he first puts some bait. Innocent stuff like gifts, the odd sms, just a hello and then when the time is right ….he will strike and how you say…you fall hook, line and sinker. Then he’s got you and it’s not long before he reels you in. So it starts with just a little bait. Just like the little gift that seems so innocent – it’s the bait.”
The young man beamed with this new found revelation and couldn’t wait to ask, “You are so right! And you have an amazing way of getting a point across Moulana, you didn’t just lecture me but you showed me how it is wrong. Thanks a mil. You must have learnt from a great teacher?”
“No doubt, I learnt from the best of all teachers,” Sheikh answered, “In fact, the best of all mankind…The Noblest Messenger of Allah- Rasulallah sallahu alaihi wa salam”
Clearly not halal, being that he's an ugly pig.
It's funny how the same crap is recycled by these dumb islamophobes. Yet who is the one starting wars, who is the one that's really violent, who is the one that's degrading women every day by making them nothing but a bunch of one night stand, train station sexual objects, grading women based on their physical lust and not their intellect or faith, who is the one that's actually OPPRESSING? It's the west, but it just works that throwing the blame on those you want to attack is much easier to justify yourself when you attack as the west has been doing especially in the last decade.
It's amusing that he talks about mein kampf and yet he makes material that is anti muslims and anti islam. His garbage 'movies' if one can even call it that. Ironically if anyone would say anything about Jews in holland they'd be instantly jailed and doomed to the end of their life. Well hello hypocritical west.
The qur'an does not incite indiscriminate killing that losers like himself try to spread. He's insignificant, he made his money, he's trash and you know the irony? In Holland white Dutch people are embracing islam in large numbers. Woopie doo, sucks for them doesn't it?
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Abû Hurayrah relates that Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said: “Whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should speak a good word or remain silent. And whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should show hospitality to his neighbor. And whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should show hospitality to his guest.” [ Sahîh al-Bukhârî and Sahîh Muslim ]
Belgian Islamophobia: MPs vow to ‘impeach’ Muslim extremists
Belgian politicians have submitted a proposal to impeach or limit the influence of Muslim extremists in power. MPs fear that Muslim politicians do not shake hands with women and are creating an isolated community.
Alain Destexche, a liberal member of the Federation Wallonia-Brussels, and Deputy Mayor of Koekelberg Philippe Pivin submitted the proposal in front of the Belgian Parliament on Wednesday to exclude extremist parties from a range of local functions. The proposal is currently open for signatures by other members of Parliament.
“The people of the Islamic party do not want to be mixed with others in public transport and other communal places,” local media quoted Alain Destexhe as saying. “They advocate getting married and wearing a veil at 12 years old, based on Islamic law.”
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Dude get help, you're a sociopath/psychopath. You have issues you need real life help not an escape to an internet forum.When I read this, I couldn't help thinking it was directed at yourself. You start and maintain threads where you are regularly the only one posting, you post overt propaganda and lies and consider it the truth, and you regularly report anyone who doesn't agree with you to the moderators. You are typical cry baby Muslim, who is devastated when criticised and intolerant of non-muslims.
In England's schools today................... ...
Registry on the first day back at school in Birmingham , ENGLAND ..
The teacher began calling out the names of the pupils:-
"Mustafa Al EZheri?" "Here"
"Achmed El Kabul?" "Here"
"Fatima Al Hayek? " "Here"
"Ali Abdul Alim?" "Here"
"Mohammed Bin Kadir?" "Here"
"Ali Son al En” - silence in the classroom.
"Ali Son al En" - continued silence as everyone looked around the rrroom.
The teacher repeated the call.
A girl stood up and said, "Sorry teacher.
I think that's me.
It's pronounced Alison Allen.
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Muslim group helps save ancient English synagogue
March 8, 2013
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By: JTA
Source: JTA
(JTA) — A Muslim organization in northern England announced it would raise funds and lobby for the preservation of the last remaining synagogue in Bradford.
The Bradford Council for Mosques recently began working together with the local authority to raise funds for the Bradford synagogue, to ensure the building remains a sacred space for future generations, the Telegraph reported on March 5.
“When the chair of the Bradford synagogue approached the Muslim community for help and assistance towards the maintenance of this building, it was a challenge which didn’t take us long to decide on,” Zulfi Karim, secretary of Bradford Council for Mosques, said.
The building was originally founded in 1880 and is an example of Moorish Victorian Architecture.
At the height of the city’s wool and textile boom many Jewish people came from Europe to settle in Bradford. In recent years the Jewish community in Bradford has been in decline, and the synagogue has been under threat of closure because of a lack of funds. Bradford had a Jewish population of roughly 500 in 2008, according to the BBC.
“We are all working together to save the synagogue with the help of the local authority,” Rudi Leavor, chair of the Bradford Synagogue, said:
Bradford has more Pakistani residents than any other place in England and Wales, according to a 2012 census. One in every five respondents identified themselves as an Asian or British Asian of Pakistani descent in the survey by the Office for National Statistics.
The strange thing about this "multicultural" society is that it can celebrate every imaginable culture except the one that allows all these cultures to co-exist alongside each other -- and all the time with enthusiasm from pundits and politicians, busy trying to pretend that this is all the most wonderful result imaginable.
Muslim Population of Britain has doubled since 911
wow!
The Normans didnt get there until 1066
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I have no respect for you.Your a human scum.Not sure why the mods let you post in the religion section.I have only pity for you. As a Muslim, Freedom of Expression riles you. Muslims can't stand the fact other people have a better system, a superior model to live by, they hate it when their obvious inferiority is rubbed in their face, how the only thing Modern Muslims have succeeded at is terrorism. I have more knowledge about religion in one of my hair follicles than you will ever learn in a thousand lifetimes. Hope this helps.
Dressing modestly is not for the desert only.
In winter people 'dress up' because it's cold, but in summer people undress. Muslims dress covered regardless out of modesty.
You may dislike it but that's what we like.
Thank you Mos, God bless.You're very welcome ahmed, God bless you too!!
kamal el mekki is amazing mashAllah. LMAO he is also a guy who in one lecture said he took trenbolone when he was younger I couldn't believe it myself since he's so skinny but hey LOL... :) JazakAllah khair for sharing bro!
Two separate clips have been deceptively joined together to imply a connection where there is none. There is a plethora of early Christian writing that contain many different interpretations of Christ and his teachings. None of these have proven to be any truer than the other.
I see a-ahmed has started another Muslim gimmick account so he can continue talking back and forth with himself in his own thread. How sad
So anyone who is a muslim is a gimmick of Ahmed? with your logic all the athiests on this website must be your gimmick eh E-Kul?...come on, use your head.Hi a_ahmed
Good to see the Buddhists standing up to the psychopathic Muslims. You know your religion is pure evil when you can provoke simple Buddhists to want to exterminate you.
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Good to see the Buddhists standing up to the psychopathic Muslims. You know your religion is pure evil when you can provoke simple Buddhists to want to exterminate you.
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‘Burmese Bin Laden’ monk spreads anti Muslim hateThose poor Buddhists, they have had to tolerate these extremists for quite some time-now. Good to see them fighting back and giving the Muslims a taste of their own medicine. The only thing they understand.
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Wirathu says part of his concern with Islam is that Buddhist women have been converted by force and then killed for failing to follow Islamic rules. He also believes the halal way of killing cattle “allows familiarity with blood and could escalate to the level where it threatens world peace”. [...]
A minority population that makes up just 5% of the nation’s total, Wirathu says Burma’s Muslims are being financed by Middle Eastern forces: “The local Muslims are crude and savage because the extremists are pulling the strings, providing them with financial, military and technical power,” he said.
Wirathu also places the blame for any violence firmly at the feet of the Muslim community, claiming that any acts his followers have carried out was merely a response to Muslim attacks. In interviews, he refers to Muslims as “Bengalis,” a reference to the widespread belief in Myanmar that members of the ethnic minority Rohingya population are illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. The Burmese government does little to stop discrimination towards the Rohingya, a people stripped of Burmese citizenship under a 1982 citizenship law.
Allaah says: "And kill not your children for fear of poverty. We provide for them and for you. Surely, the killing of them is a great sin." (Quran - 17:31)What's Allah waiting for then, why do so many Muslims live in poverty. Another Koranic scripture that is pure bullshit.
Islam forbids killing of children whether abortion or of any age.
What's Allah waiting for then, why do so many Muslims live in poverty. Another Koranic scripture that is pure bullshit.
And you know what is a great sin, is bringing a child into the world only to live a life of poverty and despair based on the false belief some imaginary force will prevent this. To do this shows a great contempt for the sanctity of human life.
What's Allah waiting for then, why do so many Muslims live in poverty. Another Koranic scripture that is pure bullshit.
And you know what is a great sin, is bringing a child into the world only to live a life of poverty and despair based on the false belief some imaginary force will prevent this. To do this shows a great contempt for the sanctity of human life.
poor people enter Paradise long before wealthy people. Allah is the most merciful.Allah doesn't seem to merciful to the Muslims in Burma at the moment. I am sure he will get around to it. He just could be busy. You know people to see, places to go.
Whats the pic proving anyway?
That Muslims are queer!
Whats the pic proving anyway?
I watched it - it means nothing - Extremists are winning the day. Unless the Moderates do something about the extremists in their organisation, nobody is going to pay any attention to them.
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Imagine what our grandparents would have done to Muslims if the 9/11 attacks had happened in the 1940's.
Did the leader of jesus live in poverty, yes he did.
And Jesus said to him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.
Was jesus learned, no he wasnt.
And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Who is the leader of Jesus?
Grammatical error.
mashAllah great posts bro
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And perform the Salah, at the two ends of the day and in some hours of the night. Verily, the good deeds remove the evil deeds. That is a reminder for the mindful.
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Was that before or after they stabbed a soldier in the neck?
I'm fairly lev-headed I think and I don't blame the whole for the actions of the few, but we have seen a pattern start to emerge:
Muslims who claim to be moderate will not step in and unconditionally condemn the extreme action of other Muslims, if they condemn them at all.
Are you serious?
Every Friday at the mosque during the (kuthba)lecture the speaker out right condemns terrorism of any form.
Hundreds and hundreds of YouTube videos talking about how killing/terror is not islam and outright forbidden.
Many many many big Islamic scholars have come out against terrorism/murder of innocent people/terrorist groups and gangs
We(Muslims on getbig) have showed you many verses of the Quran in which killing of innocent people has been STRICLY forbidden.
And for your information most terror attacks which have been disrupted/prevented from happen was because of MUSLIMS who took action to stop the terrorists!
The media will never show you how much good Muslims have done in stopping terrorists! The Muslims could stop 10 terror attacks and miss 1 and all of a sudden it's those 10 which were stopped never existed... Look at the recent plane to bomb a train headed from Canada to NY. It was stopped by a local imam! So many many cases like this which the media dosent report.
Open your eyes! Use your head!
Do you think muslims enjoy these attacks? NO! We hate then much more then you do.
Seriously, some loser lunatic who dosent even know the basics of islam will go bomb something and the rest of us muslims feel the discrimination, hate, insults...all for what? Something which we had nothing to do with, and neither did the beautiful religion(islam). These idiots(terrorists) have killed more Muslim men,women and children then all non-muslim men, women, children combined!
So please quit this garage of "you don't condem them"...because WE DO! If the media fails to report it, then that's separate issue.
If you unconditionally condemn such attacks, then good for you. Maybe the media doesn't cover this sort of thing, and maybe they should. But the important thing is to condemn this sort of brutality in no uncertain terms.It's all bullshit! Even when they do condemn Terrorist acts you can never trust them. Muslims are compelled to lie to the infidels by the Koran. It's called taqiyya and kitman They have no issue with lying through their back teeth about anything if it is to promote their sick twisted ideology. Already Stingray and some others have applauded the terrorist act and said a Soldier acting as a civilian away from the warzone is still fair game.
It's all bullshit! Even when they do condemn Terrorist acts you can never trust them. Muslims are compelled to lie to the infidels by the Koran. It's called taqiyya and kitman They have no issue with lying through their back teeth about anything if it is to promote their sick twisted ideology. Already Stingray and some others have applauded the terrorist act and said a Soldier acting as a civilian away from the warzone is still fair game.
That's what Westerners will never understand about Muslims, they are pathological liars, whether it be promoting their religion with absurd propaganda or expressing their feelings on terrorist acts. Westerners are encouraged from a young age to be very honest, Muslims are encouraged from an early age to lie. This is a fundamental difference that for an honest Westerner is hard to understand. If you are basically an honest person it is hard to understand that Muslims could so easily lie to others, but they do, and that's why they simply can't be trusted.
Taqiyya is for shia muslims. I hope you knew that.
Yep^ 100% true.More Muslim lies! See! You can never trust these dirty fuckers, if they aren't hating and lying to non-muslims there hating their fellow Muslim. This is just a case of Shia Muslims are more honest abut their level of deceit than Sunnis (Sunnis are the bigger liars , Shia admit they lie whereas a Sunni will not admit to even that - which makes them pretty EVIL)
E kul you need to get educated before you want to debate.
Sunni(majorty of the muslim world) isn't Shia. They are vastly diffrent, don't mix the two.
Taqiyya is for shia muslims. I hope you knew that.
More Muslim lies! See! You can never trust these dirty fuckers, if they aren't hating and lying to non-muslims there hating their fellow Muslim. This is just a case of Shia Muslims are more honest abut their level of deceit than Sunnis (Sunnis are the bigger liars , Shia admit they lie whereas a Sunni will not admit to even that - which makes them pretty EVIL)
There are plenty of examples of Sunnis practicing taqiyya where it was necessary.
Sunni and Shi'a both observe the Koranic verse 16:106
Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah , and for them is a great punishment;
The Sunnis are probably more contradictory on the matter than the Shia. The like to confuse the matter and have a similar word for there Bullshit called idtirar which is Protecting one's belief during demanding circumstances. Sunnis believe that it is allowed to deny faith under compulsion, threat, or fear of injury, as long as the heart remains firm in faith. Some Sunnis have a contradictory view and believe one is rewarded more if maintaining ones faith in the face of death.
This is just more macho Muslim BS, as the Shia's faced more persecution (from the Sunnis) so they OK'ed lying about their faith whereas the Sunnis were less persecuted and less likely to have to lie about their faith. But their are many examples of both Shia And Sunni lying about their faith. Amazing how taqiyya came about because of Muslims killing other Muslims. lol Muslims had to lie to protect themselves from other Muslims
You guys proved my point straight away, Muslims can't be straight up with other people, they deny, twist, distort and manipulate the facts to suit themselves. if you make a claim, they make a contradictory claim, if you highlight the violent verses in the Koran, they highlight the earlier peaceful ones if you point out the Koran tells them to ignore the earlier peaceful verses and follow the latter violent ones, they make up some other bullshit to cover their arse. You see, you cannot work with a Muslim, they will LIE and LIE and LIE and they will deny they do THIS. Because they are compulsive LIARS who can never be trusted.
Q: How do you know when a Muslim is LYING?
A: When they open their mouth!
my friend, you are simply mistaken. why do you keep insisting on lies? why do you want to slander and distort the image of islam? I honestly don't understand what your deal is?
you never back up your proofs, everything you quote is out of context.
my friend, you are simply mistaken. why do you keep insisting on lies? why do you want to slander and distort the image of islam? I honestly don't understand what your deal is?Muslims do a good enough job of ruining the Image of Islam, they don't need any outside help. You should stop being so precious. And top feigning naivety, you know damn well why people attack Islam. If it was the Amish regularly committing acts of terrorism, they would also be under the spotlight. Decent citizens don't appreciate Special interest Groups like Islam Committing disgusting vile acts and then claiming it has nothing to do with the group. You can't have your cake and eat it too, if you don't want to be linked with a terrorist ideology, they don't link yourself with it, it's that simple. Your cries of unfairness are like a KKK member complaining for being called a racist, or a member of NAMBLA complaining they are called paedophiles. Islam is simply offensive to decency, but because Muslims practice indecency they simply cannot grasp the concept. Muslims by the virtue of their practice of a vile immoral ideology seem oblivious to how disgusting they appear to a Western mind, And the most insulting part of it is, you guys think you are some beacon of morality or piety. It is enough to make any good person physically ill.
you never back up your proofs, everything you quote is out of context.
Dont be cruel.
E-fool is our resident getbig religious scholar.He has a PHD in comparative religion specialising in how wonderful atheists/agnostics are.
Muslims do a good enough job of ruining the Image of Islam, they don't need any outside help.
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BILL COSBY: WE SHOULD ALL BE MORE LIKE MUSLIMSJust what the world needs, another hypocritical, classist, elitist, self righteous wanker, propped up by the white establishment preaching to everyone else. Bill Cosby is just another moral hypocrite, preaching to everyone else while sneaking around having affairs and fathering children out of wedlock and then trying to pay off everyone to keep it quiet. Yeah, we will be taking Father Bill's advice real seriously. Rumour has it that Bill is a bit of a rapist, so he should fit in well in ISLAMIC culture.
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by BREITBART NEWS 10 Jun 2013, 9:41 AM PDT
Comedian Bill Cosby is no stranger to the culture wars.
The iconic stand-up and star of the beloved sitcom The Cosby Show routinely weighs in on cultural matters.
This past weekend, Cosby penned an op-ed for The New York Post in which he detailed some of the flaws in modern society. He also suggested we should take a page out of the Koran if we want to have healthier families, less crime and more productive people.
I’m a Christian. But Muslims are misunderstood. Intentionally misunderstood. We should all be more like them. They make sense, especially with their children. There is no other group like the Black Muslims, who put so much effort into teaching children the right things, they don’t smoke, they don’t drink or overindulge in alcohol, they protect their women, they command respect. And what do these other people do?
They complain about them, they criticize them. We’d be a better world if we emulated them. We don’t have to become black Muslims, but we can embrace the things that work.
Source: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/06/10/cosby-all-should-be-muslims
Ahmed, how is yours Turkish life in Germany :P :P :P
BILL COSBY: WE SHOULD ALL BE MORE LIKE MUSLIMS
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by BREITBART NEWS 10 Jun 2013, 9:41 AM PDT
Comedian Bill Cosby is no stranger to the culture wars.
The iconic stand-up and star of the beloved sitcom The Cosby Show routinely weighs in on cultural matters.
This past weekend, Cosby penned an op-ed for The New York Post in which he detailed some of the flaws in modern society. He also suggested we should take a page out of the Koran if we want to have healthier families, less crime and more productive people.
I’m a Christian. But Muslims are misunderstood. Intentionally misunderstood. We should all be more like them. They make sense, especially with their children. There is no other group like the Black Muslims, who put so much effort into teaching children the right things, they don’t smoke, they don’t drink or overindulge in alcohol, they protect their women, they command respect. And what do these other people do?
They complain about them, they criticize them. We’d be a better world if we emulated them. We don’t have to become black Muslims, but we can embrace the things that work.
Source: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/06/10/cosby-all-should-be-muslims
Why does he specify Black Muslims? Are the somehow different from muslims in general?
Since islam is spread out across many continents and different races, local customs and social norms find their way into the religion, creating a sub-religion in a sense.
That's why you get Arabs not liking indo-pak muslims, and Black American Muslims are different as well, especially if they're of the elijah muhammad sect.
You also have Russian Muslims and Indonesian Muslims, they vary in practice and understanding as well.
Since islam is spread out across many continents and different races, local customs and social norms find their way into the religion, creating a sub-religion in a sense.
That's why you get Arabs not liking indo-pak muslims, and Black American Muslims are different as well, especially if they're of the elijah muhammad sect.
You also have Russian Muslims and Indonesian Muslims, they vary in practice and understanding as well.
Interesting. Thank Psychopath. So it could loosely be compared to differences in some denominations of the Christian faith?
The Divine Code of Ethics from the Holy Qur'an for the entire Universe
Sixty Verses from The Holy Qur'an which will change our life for better:
5:44 - Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah ] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah , and they were witnesses thereto. So do not fear the people but fear Me, and do not exchange My verses for a small price. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the disbelievers.
5:45 - And We ordained for them therein a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth, and for wounds is legal retribution. But whoever gives [up his right as] charity, it is an expiation for him. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the wrongdoers.
5:46 - And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.
Yes and? Cherry picking verses are we?
All of these verses have their due context. It shows how much you actually READ vs how much you CUT AND PASTE from idiot islamophobe websites.
If you read the verse prior to the one you copy pasted it goes like this:
Islam is not a pacifist religion where you wear a robe and stand still while you're being slaughtered or others are being killed. It allows self-defense and instructs Muslims how to behave during war to not be like savages. Every verse advises an approach to peace rather than to war and only when absolutely inevitable and all other venues have been tried to resort to fighting and to be fierce in battle, courageous while still remaining righteous and still when in that situation to still if given the opportunity to peace to abstain from war and to seek that path to peace. Islam's ultimate goal is peace for mankind, but it does not disengage people from their God given right of self defense.
What ignorant individuals do is their own, but then it makes you no different than those ignorant individuals because it clearly shows you know nothing.
I am not 'cherry picking' when I am posting what the qur'an actually says.
You are cherry picking when you are not quoting the fighting verses in their context. Typical islamophobe hate where you omit the facts and want to portray Islam the way you want not the truth.
No of course you aren't. Picking the verses you like and posting those isn't cherry picking at all... ::)
Yes a verse in it's context or illustrating a teaching is not cherry picking but illustrating what Islam teaches.
For example "Don't steal" full stop if it's a full verse, is telling you to not steal.
You out of anger and hate towards Islam and Muslims misquoting verses to try to misrepresent Islam and Muslims is cherry picking.
For example you quoting "Kill them disbelievers wherever you find them" while not quoting the context of a battle, elements such as Muslims being driven out from their homes, not including parts which invite for all venues before fighting to be explored or to try to seize fighting as soon as possible and to seek peace, or no including elements which cite not to attack animals, not to attack women/children/elderly or those who are noncombattants, to even protect the combatants who do not want to fight to take them to safety even, not to burn homes or pillage is not only cherry picking but misquoting with smeared evil intentions trying to deliberately deter people from learning what Islam actually teaches in full context vs your deliberate dissections of quranic verses.
It seems all you can whine about is about what some individual muslim did which is not as per Islam (could be personal whims, cultural influence, tribal influence, brain dead village idiot, etc...). Or you like to misquote the qur'an as you see fit out of context. You apply your own meaning rather than the full context and understanding. Again an idiot who does this over and over again does not deserve a response.
I really don't care responding to an atheist. After all you think your own existence and the existence of others is an accident.
Blabla all you want.
Islam is the truth
I'm proud to have become and to be a Muslim alhamdulillah
There is a divide in Islam. People often talk about the 90/10 percent split between Suni and the rest that make up the other 10 percent. That's nothing! What they don't tell you... is that the suni 90 percent is split indefinely. It's like two mirrors aimed at each other... they go on being split forever. or the painter painting a picture of a painter ect... it goes forever. You will never unite even all the suni ppl to one islamic belief. In my experience... the Shiah, Sufi and Ismali are very tight. The most successful people I see in business are the Ismile and I love the Ismile. They have money and are very hard working people. The first love of my life was an Ismile girl. Ismile that I knew are very liberal. They are building the main centre for Ismile people here in Toronto. And we are happy about that.
“There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance.”
~ Ali ibn Abi Talib (radiallahu anhu) ~
No one can practice Islam in it's most pure form. All Muslims have to bend to live in the modern world. Why do you have pics of living things? You think taking a picture is not creating one? You cannot create a picture or living thing is pure Islam... it's forbidden. For when you try to breath life into it... on the day of judgement... you will fail. A pure Muslim has not even seen a picture you hypocrite!!! And few exist that have never seen a picture. So by your fundamental veiw... there are maybe a hand full of "true" muslims in some Turkish mountain left. You are not one of them. You have a naked man on your avatar. Not modest and homo sexuality is haram in Islam. Looking at men it thongs? That's gayer than gay and not modest. Hope this helps.
Amazing video mashAllah:
Everything is one big contradiction if taken word for word. Modernity is the only way! I mean it's haram to be a cannibal and eat people. Yet, the world is seeing Muslim cannibals saying you can eat your enemies. Since when is eating people halal? Oh, because it's your enemy... com'n man. I will take moderate over that radical nonesense any day. And you have madrasas teaching radical views like eating enemies and what not.
The school I went to was a little like a madrasa... but moderate. It had a masjid, Islamic studies and about 95% Muslim. We were cool with Hindu and everyone that wasn't muslim and they were our class mates and welcome there. Open minded Islamic teachings. Khuda Hafez. (may Allah be your protector)
No one can practice Islam in it's most pure form. All Muslims have to bend to live in the modern world. Why do you have pics of living things? You think taking a picture is not creating one? You cannot create a picture or living thing is pure Islam... it's forbidden. For when you try to breath life into it... on the day of judgement... you will fail. A pure Muslim has not even seen a picture you hypocrite!!! And few exist that have never seen a picture. So by your fundamental veiw... there are maybe a hand full of "true" muslims in some Turkish mountain left. You are not one of them. You have a naked man on your avatar. Not modest and homo sexuality is haram in Islam. Looking at men it thongs? That's gayer than gay and not modest. Hope this helps.
Arent you the one who was checking out nude women on facebook?
Whay you doing going to a females profile on facebook anyway?
The upper body of a man in islam can be seen.
You talk about nudity but you post on a bb forum, your a fool.
Thanks. These Muslim girls also post practically naked pics on facebook too :( They think they are good Muslims because they are brown with a muslim name lol yet don't practice anything... not even eating halal :(
An ex muslim is a dangerous thing. I was born into islam. Look at Salman Rushdy. Everyone know what happened with him and the book he wrote called the satanic verses. Why anyone not born into this cluster fawkkk would want it is beyond me. I am a born again Christian as of today. Praise the lord and as we say in arabic alhamduliah :)
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1001018_399329703507097_1235739839_n.jpg)how do you explain places like Dubai and all these filthy rich muslims? They are seen as good muslim yet don't behave islamic. In my islam... I hate gold... And only silver. Not even silver imo i don't need it and still feel that way as jesus is truely modest. Not fake like Dubai ect... With all the flash and gold :( places like burj khalifa are piggy or piggish then only point finger at west not themselves :(
$1,735 billion was spent on war in 2012 - doing nothing to solve human misery and pain, in fact worsening it.
200 million have died from hunger over the last 20 years!
What does the world truly need? Billions on causing bloodshed or a just ruler distributing resources fairly to eliminate poverty?
Capitalists concentrate wealth in the hands of the few
Khilafah circulate wealth and fulfill the needs of the people
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With pride, I announce my defection from Al Saudi family in Saudi Arabia,
“This regime in Saudi Arabia does not stand by God’s rules or even (country’s) established rules and its policies, decisions, and actions are totally based on personal will of its leaders.” “All that is said in Saudi Arabia about respecting law and religion rules are factitious so that they can lie and pretend that the regime obeys Islamic rules.”
“They don’t think about anything but their personal benefits and do not care for country’s and people’s interests or even national security,”
“The problems are deep and real,”
“the situation is even worse than what is said in criticisms”
Ok buddy. Whatever. How old are you? I have life experience. I can speak perfect english if I want. Dude... I studied Shakespeare (sp) if I write an essay... Then I will write perfect English. I am Ukranian. Wtf. That is my back ground. I am from Toronto. If you knew a thing about the biggest global village in the World... You would have a clue... And within... I am from the most diverse group in that global village. So yeah... I am very special. Yes, there are many forms of broken english here. I navigate to say the least. A Chirstian will unferstand. It's like when a spanish is pissed off... They speak half spanish. English made this multi cultural society so reap the benefits lol I love it and have a nice day. Like we say in Arabic Insha'allah. I know you don't like Khuda Or allah hafeZ so I will just say Khuda Hafez as it's tradition by the ancient ppl which I have respect for.
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2.5 million Muslims praying together tonight.
Isha prayers on the 29th night
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and no axvo we don't pray towards any meteorite or box or object of worship. We pray to God alone. Worshipping anything in the creation is against the fundemental teaching of Islam which is the oneness and uniquness of God. That nothing resembles in the creation to God and that He is the creator. It is 'shirk' or ascribing partners/idolatry to worship anything in the creation.
The kaba is merely a pointer so that all Muslims pray together no matter from which place on earth. It's a matter of unity and unison in prayer. One nation under God.
Go back to pondering your own death will you atheist? You type too much useless stuff that honestly doesn't benefit humanity only makes you look like an angry raging atheist. You've already made the point that you have contempt for God and religions in general. Moving along.
All that shining arrogance will come to a full pit stop soon enough and then you'll neither jest nor ponder no more.
I can talk about your own uselessness in the same tone that you talk towards God and religions but really I am not benefiting humanity with that crap you spew. You are a pointless piece of meat that will rot soon that's how important your arrogance is.
You have a brain but oh wait it's not that fancy or amazing it's got no design it's a piece of useless accidental flesh.
^Too much atheist blabber, wasting your limited time on earth bud.
I know I'm not interested and it's just boring the condescending attitude of atheists and yes as I've said their self-evident anger towards God and religions in general.
Hence he's wasting his precious time and since he doesn't believe there is any life after death and his origin and destination are that meaningless, he should be investing his time in his short life
I really don't understand why the religious and atheists debate.
On a side note, implying Atheists are smarter, or superior to religious folks is false, since atheism does not automatically presume well read, science oriented, completely logical rational individuals. This is the image media likes to portray, but it's nothing short of horse shit.
Religious folks believe in the existence of God, thus justifying further consequent beliefs and actions pertaining to one particular faith.
This "leap of faith", is not subject to change or modification by continually unfolding scientific findings, and concepts.
It's a dead end, so why even bother? Why see who can shout the loudest over the other? Makes no sense.
Stop asking stupid questions.
This is why I am not wasting my time on bickering with you as you're insincere or just plain arrogantly ignorant as you persist on things even when they are explained to you.
You've already been answered a million times. People following cultures and tribal customs/beliefs/traditions and NOT islam. That is the answer.
Islam obviously prohibits this.
If it's a legitimate question you should already KNOW the answer if you know anything about islam which you keep trying to throw out there when you jest and ridicule religion in general. You clearly don't.
If you knew anything about the qur'an you would already have your answer. The pre-islamic arabs used to kill their daughters too, and Islam was the first thing to oppose them in this matter.
The media focuses on muslim village idiots. Yet these practices happen amongst Arab Christians, Nigerian Christians, Indian Hindus/Christians, Chinese atheists, etc...
Like when islamophobic idiots throw this kind of crap on the net, don't they for one second think and ask wait where in the qur'an does this command of killing daughters for 'dishonoring' come from? THERE ISN'T ONE.
No muslims will say honor killings are 'according to islam', because there is no such commandment in islam. If you knew an atom's worth of knowledge on islam, you would already have your answer from the qur'an in this matter. Female infanticide, killing of female children was already being practiced before islam and islam was one force that opposed it for example. Likewise if you read the qur'an you would find no such commandments to 'honor kill'
Bottom line is, my point is, I don't take you seriously anymore, I don't see the point of bickering with you back and forth and your thousands of quotes, total waste of time.
For MOS since everyone is derailing the threads. Description of paradise. There are whole lectures on this topic alone:
What is a building compared to the life of people? In Islam even the kaba is worthless in comparison to the blood of a Muslim. Blood of a human being is more sacred than a dead building, be it a mosque, church, kaba, whatever.
Would you argue similarly about other material items?
Sure but that still does not mean that you desecrate these things or use it as an excuse to desecrate them or insult and hurt people's feelings in regards to them as an excuse that these are 'just objects' either.
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest." [13:28]
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Sure but that still does not mean that you desecrate these things or use it as an excuse to desecrate them or insult and hurt people's feelings in regards to them as an excuse that these are 'just objects' either.
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest." [13:28]
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People also attribute value to family, children, their health, so your point is still mute. Obviously people value different things and place value on things.
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Because the qur'an is the revelation of God and the words of God hence it is sacred to us. Kissing it is not mandatory nor ordained but some people do that as a form of respect and gratitude. The qur'an is meant to be read, understood and practiced.
Why do we kiss the stone? Because the prophet (pbuh) did it, however the stone itself brings neither benefit or harm, hence it's not an idol we worship. If people believed that it brings benefit then it would be idolatry but it does not.
You clearly have not read the qur'an if you make such silly assertions. It is helpless and provides nothing. So we do not worship it or anything in the creation. Our worship is strictly to God and not the creation.
If then you venerate the spiritual and not material nature of the Qu'ran, why do muslims get upset if someone "disrespects" it or defaces it? This does not affect a devout muslim's faith nor would change whatever
"truth" your religion attributes to it.
You do not consider kissing the stone worship?Yes they do, catholics supplicate to statues of Mary (peace be upon her), supplicate to statues of Jesus (pbuh).
It appears the rationale is "if Muhammad did it, it is ok no questions asked"? Why did Mohammad kiss the stone?
These are not worship and idolatry but any artifact, symbol, image or statue that is not muslim is idolatry? Do you think that other infidel religions that have images or statues worship the actual image or statue?
If I slander your mother and call her names and accuse you of things you'd be mad and tell me you wouldn't wana hit me. Now you're gonna say "oh but that's different". Well to us it's God's word which is significant whether you like it or not. It's sacred to us.
Imagine someone throws toilette residue on your mother? Oh but it's just material, it's not her internal. Sorry you wouldn't buy it and don't give me crap about but that's different. It's about respect, dignity, sanctity and honor. You don't put value on it but we do.
Why are islamophobes so obsessed with the kaba or the stone trying to prove we're idolators. It's pretty retarded because it clearly shows you don't know the fundemental teachings of Islam nor have ever read what the qur'an says.
I don't believe in your 'free speech', because your 'free speech' is situationaly selective and includes hate, slander and incitement as 'free speech' when it suits your interests and doesn't when it doesn't suit your interests. A hypocrite system.
There is no such thing as all out freedom either. This is reality.
You like to play this 'free speech' card when it means you can slime attack others when you deem fit. I'd love to see how your cynical pseudo-pacifistic approach would go for in real life if someone was yelling at your mother verbally and not 'initiating violence'. Quickly your selective 'free speech' would end. You believe in 'free speech' when it suits your interests only.
Oh lol your mother would sue someone who yells at her to the full extent of the law? That sounds pretty laughable.
Law of who? Your man made law? That you make up and shaep as you see fit? How about I don't believe in your man made law? Freedom of belief, freedom of speech, oh wait it doesn't work like that suddenly? Wait you want to subjugate me to your man made law?
So if you make up laws that allow you to 'free speech' your hate all to your heart's extent someone as free speech its all good now isn't it.
If I slander your mother and call her names and accuse you of things you'd be mad and tell me you wouldn't wana hit me. Now you're gonna say "oh but that's different". Well to us it's God's word which is significant whether you like it or not. It's sacred to us.
Imagine someone throws toilette residue on your mother? Oh but it's just material, it's not her internal. Sorry you wouldn't buy it and don't give me crap about but that's different. It's about respect, dignity, sanctity and honor. You don't put value on it but we do.
Yes they do, catholics supplicate to statues of Mary (peace be upon her), supplicate to statues of Jesus (pbuh).
We do not supplicate to it nor believe in it benefiting us in anyway.
Why are islamophobes so obsessed with the kaba or the stone trying to prove we're idolators. It's pretty retarded because it clearly shows you don't know the fundemental teachings of Islam nor have ever read what the qur'an says.
More atheist cynical hypocrite blabber to quote and respond to no thanks ::)
As I said you call free speech whenever you wana slander or attack Muslims or Islam. Well good for you, just glad I can pinpoint what 'free speech' means to you. Sorry I don't believe in your selective hypocritical and cynical 'free speech'.
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And, don't forget the many other very scientific things that Allah did: he also made the moon a light (71:15-16) but also hang lamps in heaven (41:12) because I guess the moon wasn't bright enough by itself. He made the earth flat (13:3, 15:9, 51:48 and 78:6-7 to name a few) and a fixed, unmoving abode (27:61). And, let's not forget, he created everything in pairs (51:49) which leaves us to wonder... who created flowers and amoebas?
I could go on, but I trust the point is made. The Qur'an isn't a science textbook and contains no great pearls or scientific wisdom or hidden scientific knowledge. It describes a delusional, uneducated man's understanding of the world in allegories and cryptic verses. Setting aside the fact that the allegorical verse quoted explains nothing and isn't scientifically useful, if the Qur'an really contains legitimate scientific knowledge then why aren't you creating new scientific theories using its wisdom, instead of only finding verses to describe things ex post facto?
What you do (and what that ad did) is bogus. You pick some scientific fact, then scour your grimoire in search of a verse or two that you can interpret, stretch and adapt so as to make it fit. You then act surprised at this amazing and unlikely "prediction" - a prediction you manufactured - and use it as the basis to make claims about your religion.
And it's all complete and utter bullshit.
And, don't forget the many other very scientific things that Allah did: he also made the moon a light (71:15-16) but also hang lamps in heaven (41:12) because I guess the moon wasn't bright enough by itself. He made the earth flat (13:3, 15:9, 51:48 and 78:6-7 to name a few) and a fixed, unmoving abode (27:61). And, let's not forget, he created everything in pairs (51:49) which leaves us to wonder... who created flowers and amoebas?
I could go on, but I trust the point is made. The Qur'an isn't a science textbook and contains no great pearls or scientific wisdom or hidden scientific knowledge. It describes a delusional, uneducated man's understanding of the world in allegories and cryptic verses. Setting aside the fact that the allegorical verse quoted explains nothing and isn't scientifically useful, if the Qur'an really contains legitimate scientific knowledge then why aren't you creating new scientific theories using its wisdom, instead of only finding verses to describe things ex post facto?
What you do (and what that ad did) is bogus. You pick some scientific fact, then scour your grimoire in search of a verse or two that you can interpret, stretch and adapt so as to make it fit. You then act surprised at this amazing and unlikely "prediction" - a prediction you manufactured - and use it as the basis to make claims about your religion.
And it's all complete and utter bullshit.
Doesn't see any contradiction.
You mentioned that the earth was flat.I went over the verses you mentioned and the Koran doesn't say its flat.It says he spread the earth, and spread it with mountains and rivers etc.
Even if your interpretation was that it is flat, doesn't mean the earth is flat, means God created the earth with rivers, mountains, valleys, some parts its flat, some parts in hilley, some parts is mountainous etc
And again there is a moon and sun which provide light, and the lamps are the stars
just like somebody would have a main light in his bedroom, he also will have a lamp nxt to him.
I'm not surprised.
No, I mentioned that the verses I quoted imply that the earth is flat... let's try those quotes one by one shall we?
13.3 says "And He it is Who spread out the earth [...]" which sounds, to me, like a flat earth. But hey, this might be a bit ambiguous, so we'll ignore it. 15:19 and 51:48 are similar, so let's leave this out to. Let's go on.
But 78:6-7 refers to the earth as an "expanse" and I don't know what "expanse" means in your neck of the woods, but it doesn't mean an oblate spheroid in my neck of the woods.
Still, let's pretend for a second that the whole "flat earth" thing isn't at issue. We still have that pesky "fixed, unmoving abode" bit. That's simply, flat-out wrong: the earth is neither fixed nor unmoving; it's moving and at a quite a clip too.
No, wrong. No part of the earth is flat; the earth is an oblate spheroid. At best, you can argue that parts of it appear flat in the sense that the earth is locally Euclidean (that is, it is a 2-manifold in ℝ3 if you want to be mathematical about it). But that is a very different thing than the earth being flat.
Uhm, you do know that the moon doesn't produce any light, right? All it does is to reflect light, which is quite a different thing from producing it. In essence it's a mirror. Surely the emissary of the creator of the Universe would know and not make such a silly mistake. Especially in a text that supposedly contains a creamy nougat core of knowledge about the world in which we live hiding underneath its crunchy religious exterior.
Again, the moon isn't a light and the stars are neither "hung" nor "lamps". The moon, if we were to play along with your silly example, is the mirror on your wall that reflects the bedroom light of your neighbor, and the stars are the bedroom lights of other neighbors.
Oh, and please do tell us: if everything was created in pairs (51:49), why are there organisms which procreate asexually and don't come in pairs?
I usually don't waste time responding to axvo's angry rants especially since they are long and when you do respond he responds with a thousand quotations... but the moon's light in the qur'an is a reflected light (muneer).
And about the whole flat earth non-sense no, actually: http://www.answering-christianity.com/earth_in_islam.htm
Islam is a Death Cult that worships Satan. Allah = Satan. Proven over and over... hope this helps.
I can go on and on.
Lame meltdown bro. A guy with the name like 'gonuclear' says it all.
Seriously, if you hate the USA so much...
And Islam is a perfect life plan with no defects or disadvantages whatsoever...
Why not go to one of the many Islamic countries whre people think as you do?
Really, I am quite interested in your answer.
Dude I've lived in those countries as a Christian and they are nothing like what you've been brainwashed to think. Their infrastructure is newer, better, more developed and they spend their money on their countries and not waging wars on other countries. The governments totally suck and that is as a result of what the west creates and supports. Any uprising is shunned and suppressed. As is the most recent case for example in Egypt. Furthermore the fact that the US BOMBS these countries sets them back but they keep rebuilding, while the west spends money on more wars and ignores its failing infrastructure and old pile of crap roads and buildings.
Life is not crap in the rest of the world as you are made out to believe. Everything in the west from the day we are in school is thought about how we are 'first world countries' and the rest of the countries are 'third world countries'. Really, it's a plot to keep people ignorant and believing that we are the best in the world, we are not. I've travelled in between North America, Europe, Africa and the Middle-east. I haven't been to Australia, South America or East Asia however.
I am not in the US, nor want to live in the US. I am not born an Arab or born in Arab countries, I'm of European descent and a westerner but a Muslim. That being said I would enjoy living in Muslim countries but my family is here and I have a job.
That being said is life here great and that's the reason I'm here? Not at all, in comparison to the west, in Muslim countries (you shouldn't call them 'islamic countries' as they are secular dictatorship or kingdoms), life is more peaceful over there. Here we live day to day rush hour, bills, 40 hour+ work weeks, work, eat, sleep, work, eat, sleep and from all the 'anti-depressants' north Americans are on, to getting smashed on weekends at bars and clubs, life in the west is crap.
One thing you would notice in terms of difference to north america in arab muslim countries is life. People are more relaxed, more at peace with themselves, more humble, more family oriented, more community oriented, there is life on the street, people know each other, people are not closed off 'independent', children are free to play on the streets and parents dont have to worry as much about their kids getting involved with gangs, criminals and thugs. Your property being stolen is less likely, strangers you don't know will greet you with smiles while here someone will start cussing at you and looking at you strange.
It's just different, the west may appear 'rich' in material things, but in reality all here are poor. Credit, debt, even the US government itself its 17 trillion dollars in debt. That's the real reality.
Being Muslim is not being Arab. American and western Muslims are on the rise whether you like it or not, too bad and we're here to stay in our own countries. The same pile of crap could be said to the likes of Englishmen or Spaniards or Frenchmen or Dutchmen to go back to where they came from as they invaded native lands and enforced Christianity on them by the sword..
Life is not crap in the rest of the world as you are made out to believe. Everything in the west from the day we are in school is thought about how we are 'first world countries' and the rest of the countries are 'third world countries'. Really, it's a plot to keep people ignorant and believing that we are the best in the world, we are not. I've travelled in between North America, Europe, Africa and the Middle-east. I haven't been to Australia, South America or East Asia however.
I am not in the US, nor want to live in the US. I am not born an Arab or born in Arab countries, I'm of European descent and a westerner but a Muslim. That being said I would enjoy living in Muslim countries but my family is here and I have a job.
That being said is life here great and that's the reason I'm here? Not at all, in comparison to the west, in Muslim countries (you shouldn't call them 'islamic countries' as they are secular dictatorship or kingdoms), life is more peaceful over there. Here we live day to day rush hour, bills, 40 hour+ work weeks, work, eat, sleep, work, eat, sleep and from all the 'anti-depressants' north Americans are on, to getting smashed on weekends at bars and clubs, life in the west is crap.
One thing you would notice in terms of difference to north america in arab muslim countries is life. People are more relaxed, more at peace with themselves, more humble, more family oriented, more community oriented, there is life on the street, people know each other, people are not closed off 'independent', children are free to play on the streets and parents dont have to worry as much about their kids getting involved with gangs, criminals and thugs. Your property being stolen is less likely, strangers you don't know will greet you with smiles while here someone will start cussing at you and looking at you strange.
It's just different, the west may appear 'rich' in material things, but in reality all here are poor. Credit, debt, even the US government itself its 17 trillion dollars in debt. That's the real reality.
Being Muslim is not being Arab. American and western Muslims are on the rise whether you like it or not, too bad and we're here to stay in our own countries. The same pile of crap could be said to the likes of Englishmen or Spaniards or Frenchmen or Dutchmen to go back to where they came from as they invaded native lands and enforced Christianity on them by the sword..
I think you miss the part that I've already mentioned before, I did enjoy my life in Arab Muslim countries and I wasn't even Muslim then. However realistically today where would I move that there wouldn't be a conflict? All of them the countries are now involved in some sort of screwed up conflict thanks to American involvement. I lived in Libya for example. It was beautiful, but now you don't know when a bomb will explode somewhere plus the NATO filth left depleted uranium all over. Hello cancer.
Even gulf countries where I Have some family working there they are nothing but American ass kissers that don't represent Islam or Muslims. They mistreat brown people, black people, Indians, etc.. which disgusts me and is against Islam. Not to say all are like that but there's a lot of that happening. They would kiss my white ass hard but it still disgusts me.
I think you miss the part that I've already mentioned before, I did enjoy my life in Arab Muslim countries and I wasn't even Muslim then. However realistically today where would I move that there wouldn't be a conflict? All of them the countries are now involved in some sort of screwed up conflict thanks to American involvement. I lived in Libya for example. It was beautiful, but now you don't know when a bomb will explode somewhere plus the NATO filth left depleted uranium all over. Hello cancer.
Even gulf countries where I Have some family working there they are nothing but American ass kissers that don't represent Islam or Muslims. They mistreat brown people, black people, Indians, etc.. which disgusts me and is against Islam. Not to say all are like that but there's a lot of that happening. They would kiss my white ass hard but it still disgusts me.
And that's your problem, so there's no point in trying to prove to you anything. You're the one that comes in here with a problem with Muslims and Islam. I'm not coming to you to tell you what to be or not to be. So speak for yourself and your 'blinders'.
The Promise to St. Catherine:
"This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.
Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses.
Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.
No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world)."
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St. Catherine's Monastery, Sinai, Egypt
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A Picture of Prophet Muhammad's Letter to St. Catherine's Monastery
Muslims and Christians together constitute over fifty percent of the world and if they lived in peace, we will be half way to world peace. One small step that we can take towards fostering Muslim-Christian harmony is to tell and retell positive stories and abstain from mutual demonization. In this article I propose to remind both Muslims and Christians about a promise that Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) made to Christians. The knowledge of this promise can have enormous impact on Muslim conduct towards Christians. Muslims generally respect the precedent of their Prophet and try to practice it in their lives.
In 628 AD, a delegation from St. Catherine’s Monastery came to Prophet Muhammed and requested his protection. He responded by granting them a charter of rights, which I reproduce below in its entirety. St. Catherine’s Monastery is located at the foot of Mt. Sinai and is the world’s oldest monastery. It possess a huge collection of Christian manuscripts, second only to the Vatican, and is a world heritage site. It also boasts the oldest collection of Christian icons. It is a treasure house of Christian history that has remained safe for 1400 years under Muslim protection.
The first and the final sentence of the charter are critical. They make the promise eternal and universal. Muhammed asserts that Muslims are with Christians near and far straight away rejecting any future attempts to limit the promise to St. Catherine alone. By ordering Muslims to obey it until the Day of Judgment the charter again undermines any future attempts to revoke the privileges. These rights are inalienable. Muhammed declared Christians, all of them, as his allies and he equated ill treatment of Christians with violating God’s covenant.
A remarkable aspect of the charter is that it imposes no conditions on Christians for enjoying its privileges. It is enough that they are Christians. They are not required to alter their beliefs, they do not have to make any payments and they do not have any obligations. This is a charter of rights without any duties!
The document is not a modern human rights treaty but even thought it was penned in 628 A.D. it clearly protects the right to property, freedom of religion, freedom of work, and security of the person.
I know most readers, must be thinking so what? Well the answer is simple. Those who seek to foster discord among Muslims and Christians focus on issues that divide and emphasize areas of conflict. But when resources such as Muhammad’s promise to Christians is invoked and highlighted it builds bridges. It inspires Muslims to rise above communal intolerance and engenders good will in Christians who might be nursing fear of Islam or Muslims.
When I look at Islamic sources, I find in them unprecedented examples of religious tolerance and inclusiveness. They make me want to become a better person. I think the capacity to seek good and do good inheres in all of us. When we subdue this predisposition towards the good, we deny our fundamental humanity. In this holiday season, I hope all of us can find time to look for something positive and worthy of appreciation in the values, cultures and histories of other peoples.
Go ask the 'royal' Saud tribe that your government supports often times even against Muslims within Saudi Arabia who speak out against the royals.
That being said Saudi Arabia is 100% Muslim, it's mostly expats who are Christians and they get to do their own thing within their compounds.
"RIYADH (Reuters) - A court in Saudi Arabia has sentenced two men to lashes and prison terms for converting a woman to Christianity and helping her flee the conservative Islamic kingdom, the Saudi Gazette reported on Monday. A Lebanese man was sentenced to six years in prison and 300 lashes for converting the woman, while a Saudi man was sentenced to two years and 200 lashes for aiding her escape abroad, the English-language daily said. It added that the pair had challenged the verdict and would appeal."
Go ask the 'royal' Saud tribe that your government supports often times even against Muslims within Saudi Arabia who speak out against the royals.
That being said Saudi Arabia is 100% Muslim, it's mostly expats who are Christians and they get to do their own thing within their compounds.
This thread is not about politics, and Americans didn't come to the aid of Bosnians, they involved themselves when Muslims started winning and getting closer to the Serbian border. Kind of how Syrian Muslims have started winning against Assad and suddenly the US cares even though over a hundred thousand have been killed by Assad's forces.
Today, if you step outside of Sarajevo it'l say "Serbian republic" and country is anything but a Muslim country and those that fought for Bosnians are jailed and tortured even sent to guantanmo bay, their citizenships stripped away even though they were promised citizenship and given citizenship by the first bosnian president for helping Bosnians in Bosnia. The whole thing was hijacked by Americans.
Prior to that a weapons embargo was placed on former Yugoslavia while the serbians had ALL the weapons in Belgrade, while Bosnian muslims had nothing, they had to resort to home made weapons. These are the facts, but anyways there's no point in arguing because you're so blind that Americans are helping the whole world.
Jacque Chirac at the time said he doesn't want a muslim country in Europe. It's the same story again, and I wasn't even Muslim that time, no one in my family was, but we knew what was going on. Two years ago this ass wipe Jacque Chirac gets an 'honorary award' in Sarajevo.
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This video is very helpful for me, the speech about the education is very interesting and knowledgeable.
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Selective reporting misrepresents Muslims as prone to killing
http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/a-media-microscope-on-islam-linked-violence/
According to a Gallup poll (8/2/11; FAIR Blog, 5/3/13), Muslim Americans disapprove of violence against civilians at an exceptionally high rate. When asked if it “is justified for an individual or a small group of people to target and kill civilians,” 89 percent of Muslims said that it is never justified, which was the highest disapproval rate of the six religious and nonreligious groups polled. Muslim Americans also rejected military killing of civilians by a wide margin, while a majority of Protestants, Catholics, Jews and Mormons approved of such killings.
Interesting. But I'd like to point out that talk is cheap – a fact you must be intimately familiar with, having flooded this forum with post after post after post.
scrolled through 52 pages, actually skipping a lot, and not one damn bomb making video. waste of my time.
And that's your problem, so there's no point in trying to prove to you anything. You're the one that comes in here with a problem with Muslims and Islam. I'm not coming to you to tell you what to be or not to be. So speak for yourself and your 'blinders'.
If anyone happens to watch the video posted above and has any questions about the representation of Christianity within it I'll be happy to discuss it with you as the concepts presented concerning Christianity are not correct.
Please start a separate thread though or send me a PM and I'll do my best to answer your questions.
^Shiism is not Islam.
shiism is an off shoot religion that rejects fundamental teachings of Islam, contradicting fundemental teachings, etc...
Shias even curse the companions of the prophet (peace be upon them all) and even the wife of the prophet (peace be upon her). They reject hadith and have their own made up sayings in order to curse the companions, wives, etc... they are not accepted within the fold of Islamic orthodoxy and are a deviated sect.
Muta ('temporary marriage'), mattam ('self beatings'/mutilations/exagerated mourning), taqqiyya (lying about what you believe in) etc... are all concepts of shiism not Islam and are haraam (forbidden) in Islam.
Muslims kill and burn innocent students in Nigeria.
Muslims kill 35 innocent Chinese at a railway station in China.
Muslims are vile fucking scum
Also, Arabic is the most beautiful language. I love it so much!!! I am in love :)I don't speak Arabic, but whenever I hear it the language sounds so aggressive with it's guttural consonants, sharp enunciation and harsh intonations. I always used to joke than no wonder they are all so angry and fighting all the time, even when they say nice things to each other the mind of the listener interprets it as hostile and aggressive due to the tone and aggressive articulation of the language itself.