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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: anabolichalo on September 23, 2012, 12:33:25 AM
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Yes. The 6 times a day is a made up lie of the supplement companies to sell more protein.
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What does adonis principles say about this?
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mike mentzer insists you can eat ice creams in olympia preparations as long as you have caloric deficit
and sufficient protein which is not a lot
I am sure he did eat ice cream but the ounce of coke he snorted before and after burned it off within seconds.
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At least it's helluva lot easier ;D
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6 times per day is stupidity! 2-3 times is enough!
Do u drive to the gas station to fill up your tank just a little so u can go there again some houers later?
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carbs x 6 meals = higher avg blood sugar = early death
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Classic BB debate ;D
5-6 feel much better, mentally and in my stomach. I become sleepy when I double the carb intake. My gut feeling* says that your body can't absorb 80 gr of protein from 1 meal, so I eat/drink 5-6 times 40 grams.
(*I know, this is a debatable subject)
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Classic BB debate ;D
5-6 feel much better, mentally and in my stomach. I become sleepy when I double the carb intake. My gut feeling* says that your body can't absorb 80 gr of protein from 1 meal, so I eat/drink 5-6 times 40 grams.
(*I know, this is a debatable subject)
Ok, how about 3 meals and 2 snacks in between meals?
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6 times per day is stupidity! 2-3 times is enough!
Do u drive to the gas station to fill up your tank just a little so u can go there again some houers later?
;D
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6 times per day is stupidity! 2-3 times is enough!
Do u drive to the gas station to fill up your tank just a little so u can go there again some houers later?
What about the wood stove analogy. Is feeding the fire better to do 6 times a day in smaller amounts where it doesn't get too low or too high or 3 times a day in larger amounts where it will have it's ups and downs?
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mike mentzer insists you can eat ice creams in olympia preparations as long as you have caloric deficit
and sufficient protein which is not a lot
Almost all alcoholics are Diabetic/pre-diabetic. And most don't even know it.
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Omg, its about cals in cals out - not meal frequency!!
Besides, our individual metabolism depends on our current weight and muscle mass. I require 6-7 meals a day because I have a lot of muscle to hold (for a natural anyway..). Its also how my body functions the best. I eat small meals and often, and I got a very high metabolism. Keeps the blood sugar in check throughout the day.
Everybodys different so you cant knock this or that...
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What about the wood stove analogy. Is feeding the fire better to do 6 times a day in smaller amounts where it doesn't get too low or too high or 3 times a day in larger amounts where it will have it's ups and downs?
faulty analogy. metabolism isnt regulated by food intake in such a way.
one might bring up the thermic effect of feeding to try an argue that point, however the thermic effect of feeding is in addition to the base metabolic rate(which is independant of and uneffected by meal frequency).. and the total effect on caloric expenditure is going to be equal regardless of meal size/meal frequency.
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I eat once or twice a day, if that.
Sometimes, just don't feel like eating. I eat when I am hungry.
When I was younger, I used to be a glutton, now I don't see the reasoning for eating 6 meals, protein shakes, and just stuffing my face.
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No one can answer this question for you. You must train/diet/eat and find your own answer.
The answer for me is quite clear; 5-6 smallish/moderate sized meals per day is the answer.
Noodle is a funny word.
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No one can answer this question for you. You must train/diet/eat and find your own answer.
The answer for me is quite clear; 5-6 smallish/moderate sized meals per day is the answer.
Noodle is a funny word.
meh. yes and no. the power of the human mind is extraordinary. what one believes can become ones reality.
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meh. yes and no. the power of the human mind is extraordinary. what one believes can become ones reality.
OK, I'm with you sort of, kind of, depending on the dynamic.
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OK, I'm with you sort of, kind of, depending on the dynamic.
i think, therefore i am !
thats the dynamic ;D
(instead of getting real wordy and trying to set up parameters as to the extent which the idea applies in my theory of how it works, i figure i can leave it at that quote from descarte and hopefully less will be more)
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I just eat when I'm Hungry - Isn't that what the sensation is for?
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Ok, how about 3 meals and 2 snacks in between meals?
After a snack (a bar, some fruit, etc) I'm hungry in no time. I prefer a meal with quality macros, containing about 500-600 kcals
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Assuming you're eating the right calories to suit your goals, then the best plan for meal timing is one you can stick to long term.
Nothing trumps the following two diet principles:
1. consistent application of a consistently measured approach
2. right amount of calories per day/week/month/period
The rest is the minutia that bogs down bodybuilders. You get the above two right, there's no reason you can't get sub 8% bodyfat. Sub 8% is lean enough unless you're doing a show. Then the other few percentage points will come from the drugs you will surely have to be on.
If you like eating 6 times per day because it feels right, then do it. Or eat once per day. Or 18 times. Whatever...it really doesn't matter that much. As long as you fulfill the above two principles (which are very hard for most people to do, so don't discount them). But success leaves clues. Every success story in dieting gets the above two right. Then there's a rapid divergence in "other" beliefs and applications.
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I just eat when I'm Hungry - Isn't that what the sensation is for?
For normal cats, yes. For bodybuilders, I'm afraid that won't do it. . . at least in almost all the cases I've ever seen.
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meh. yes and no. the power of the human mind is extraordinary. what one believes can become ones reality.
Sure is, so why don't you use it to to build the body of someone who dosen't suck? And waiting until you're hungry? It's too late by then. Fucking idiots with your stupid posts. No wonder all the good posters left here. The majority of you are simply just a bunch of dumb fucks.
Keep doing what you feel like when you want and keep up the good track record of being failures.
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5-6 small meals is much better than 3 large ones... no brainer. It keeps anabolism and metabolism elevated.
Aspiring bodybuilders (and couch potatos) often make the mistake of eating too much during one sitting which results in lots of spill-over (fat).
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Getting in an adequate amount of calories with 3 meals without feeling bloated isn't that easy. Much easier to take in those same amount of calories spread out over 5-6 meals if possible.
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I just had a meal. 3 slices of bread with butter. 200gram of unboild rice. 200gram 20% fat miced meat with beans, fried in oil. 1l milk. and some vegetables with salt lemon and oil. How much is that. Like 2000kcal?
I think most my meals are around 1500-2000kcal. 2 big, 1 smal. per day!
Blodsugar is just a trend. U have the food in the stomach, then the body use it the next 6 houers. Dont need small meal betwen. Just bullshit :)
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Sure is, so why don't you use it to to build the body of someone who dosen't suck? And waiting until you're hungry? It's too late by then. Fucking idiots with your stupid posts. No wonder all the good posters left here. The majority of you are simply just a bunch of dumb fucks.
Keep doing what you feel like when you want and keep up the good track record of being failures.
;D post your pic bro
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can be misleading, the hunger feeling/sensation.
look no further thaN tbombs,,lol
::) i dont get hungry.
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;D post your pic bro
In case you visit the Netherlands, I invite you for a back workout (no homo)
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For normal cats, yes. For bodybuilders, I'm afraid that won't do it. . . at least in almost all the cases I've ever seen.
this is true, I'm not a bodybuilder, Just another normal cat. So much easier being normal.
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In case you visit the Netherlands, I invite you for a back workout (no homo)
i had a layover in amsterdam 4 years ago on my way to helsinki ..
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i had a layover in amsterdam 4 years ago on my way to helsinki ..
That sucks, Schiphol becomes a boring place after a while or did you visit the city?
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That sucks, Schiphol becomes a boring place after a while or did you visit the city?
layover only lasted a couple hours. didnt get to leave the airport.. but the airport is a kickass place. had some cigarettes and coffee and talked to a spanish dolphin trainer at this bar.
(http://www.vyaggio.com/media/images/presetcache/012012/slideshow_picture_small_BranchesBrand_4f143b27-5f5c-4113-a3c5-4fa9b03ea08a.png)
(http://cache.virtualtourist.com/4/3216019-Elegance_in_waiting_Schiphol.jpg)
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layover only lasted a couple hours. didnt get to leave the airport.. but the airport is a kickass place. had some cigarettes and coffee and talked to a spanish dolphin trainer at this bar.
(http://www.vyaggio.com/media/images/presetcache/012012/slideshow_picture_small_BranchesBrand_4f143b27-5f5c-4113-a3c5-4fa9b03ea08a.png)
(http://cache.virtualtourist.com/4/3216019-Elegance_in_waiting_Schiphol.jpg)
Wow, looks like a nice grand-cafe, haven't seen this before
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Yes. The 6 times a day is a made up lie of the supplement companies to sell more protein.
protein shake not equal a meal.
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I just eat when I'm Hungry - Isn't that what the sensation is for?
but your body is hungry when it's trained to eat. for example: many people skip breakfast--they're "just not hungry". i used to do this. i started eating breakfast and before long i started waking up hungry.
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protein shake not equal a meal.
why, who told you what a meal is?
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today i saw a few fat pigs in the gym drinking protein/weightgain drinks in the locker room
i felt disgusted
Don't judge too soon, judge them on their progress. At least they made the step to do something about it.
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why, who told you what a meal is?
perhaps you should start by examining the word "supplement".
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I wish we had some evidence on proper nutrient timin through out the day. We have during and after workouts covered... I'm afraid that gets too "person to person" thing.
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I think so...Exercise science journals, elite athlete protocols, etc.
the issue with bodybuilding, or more appropriatley muscle mass building is how can it be quantified? Size has variables, nobody wants frequent biopsies, MRI are expensive and possibly harmful over time. Plus there is a whopping supplement industry funding smoke and mirrors instead of real science.
Plus bodybuilding is a questionable sport at best.
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I think so...Exercise science journals, elite athlete protocols, etc.
the issue with bodybuilding, or more appropriatley muscle mass building is how can it be quantified? Size has variables, nobody wants frequent biopsies, MRI are expensive and possibly harmful over time. Plus there is a whopping supplement industry funding smoke and mirrors instead of real science.
Plus bodybuilding is a questionable sport at best.
...to add, what would be the real point of finding out the best and fastest way to build muscle size? What good is having large muscles?
Strong muscles, or fast muscles, or new muscles where none existed before...yes, these are worthy scientific study areas.
But how best to build bigger muscles? Scientists already know enough on how exercise and some protein in the diet can be used to (unsuccessfully, I might add) address wasting diseases such as Duchenne's or sarcopenia or AIDS. For those with diseases, drugs are usually the answer, and dietary/exercise regimens do add some marginal value. It wouldn't be easy to get grant money from legitimate sources to continue more in-depth studies into these areas. Typically, the grant money comes from supplement companies, who, of course, often have an agenda. Double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomly assigned, and even cross-over designed studies can help. But then, we can say that about a lot of post-secondary graduate degree programs funded by corporate interests, and the influence they surely have over the purity of scientific study...the study of "muscle size" is not surely alone in this regard.
What possible real-world benefit is there for the average scientist to study how best for a modern, average, healthy populace to build muscle SIZE. It's purely cosmetic, and quite ridiculous when you think about it. I still like doing it, but I don't expect a new wing to open up at John Hopkins University to study the intricacies of sets and reps and different cooked chicken breast meat on building muscle size over the long term.
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Great post. That being said, the purely cosmetic part may be our saving grace. Health and aging clinics and hrt are popping up all over. Weight loss and hair loss are already being exploited by the medical communities. We can wait and hope... And not hold our breath.