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I have posted before but that was at a competition and I was natty...
I'm about 8/9 weeks into my cycle..
Tren 100mg EOD, Mast 50mg EOD, Test Prop 50mg EOD.
I was about 190lbs at my competition and I'm about 250lbs @ 6'1, BF unsure...
So do you think I have potential?
Thanks
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Drop about 35 pounds............the extra weight is doing you no good at all.
Slightly visible abs at most times are always a good thing.
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15-16% BF....you haave to get leaner friend...
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Drop about 35 pounds............the extra weight is doing you no good at all.
Slightly visible abs at most times are always a good thing.
I`d say he has around 70 to lose minimum.
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15-16% BF....you haave to get leaner friend...
legit 20%,he has boobies for fuck sake.Take care with your heart rate dude,it it a real concern when you are fat and jump on tren and other aas :-\
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I`d say he has around 70 to lose minimum.
I was being nice! :D
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oh and btw,100 mg t3 will help you big time ;)
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you are fat.....this is about 15 %
lol remeber the irish dave thread ? people calling dave 15% and even 20??
this is about 15%% look at the arms... shoulder tie ins.... even has some titties going on....
abdomen one big blob... no sidewalls visible, not a middle line.... nothing....
serious bro... 9 weeks into a cycle like that and you look like this?? it's your first cycle???
you should respond in a massive way ....
could be a few things:
1 you have bunk gear
2 you are a troll
3 the above mentioned things combined.
at least you allready have the color of Dennis Wolf, now you need his source.... lol!! ;D ;D ;D
i am leaning towards number 3 myself....
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at least you allready have the color of Dennis Wolf, now you need his source.... lol!!
:D
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I have posted before but that was at a competition and I was natty...
I'm about 8/9 weeks into my cycle..
Tren 100mg EOD, Mast 50mg EOD, Test Prop 50mg EOD.
I was about 190lbs at my competition and I'm about 250lbs @ 6'1, BF unsure...
So do you think I have potential?
Thanks
Do you ever train your back?
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You should have looked like that before every touching roids.
Give up. Go play tennis or something.
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I`d say he has around 70 to lose minimum.
Hahahahaha that cracked me up lol
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Honestly, you look like a sack of dead piglets
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you are fat.....this is about 15 %
lol remeber the irish dave thread ? people calling dave 15% and even 20??
this is about 15%% look at the arms... shoulder tie ins.... even has some titties going on....
abdomen one big blob... no sidewalls visible, not a middle line.... nothing....
serious bro... 9 weeks into a cycle like that and you look like this?? it's your first cycle???
you should respond in a massive way ....
could be a few things:
1 you have bunk gear
2 you are a troll
3 the above mentioned things combined.
at least you allready have the color of Dennis Wolf, now you need his source.... lol!! ;D ;D ;D
i am leaning towards number 3 myself....
To be honest I ate like shit for about 3/4 of my cycle. I know it was probably stupid.
1 I have legit gear. PP...
2 I'm not a troll, have posted here many times and its not my intention to be one.
I have started dieting last week for a competition in August.
Will post in a few weeks when I'm leaner.
in my personal opinion I really have gained a nice bit of size and didn't do bad.
In the pic the lighting is a bit off, but I guess my bodyfat is quite high.
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To be honest I ate like shit for about 3/4 of my cycle. I know it was probably stupid.
1 I have legit gear. PP...
2 I'm not a troll, have posted here many times and its not my intention to be one.
I have started dieting last week for a competition in August.
Will post in a few weeks when I'm leaner.
in my personal opinion I really have gained a nice bit of size and didn't do bad.
In the pic the lighting is a bit off, but I guess my bodyfat is quite high.
Hahahah the lighting! yes that would explain the mess
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Do you ever train your back?
Yes I do. Its actually one of my best bodyparts..
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Yes I do. Its actually one of my best bodyparts..
It's one of his best bodyparts, but only in the dark "shhhhhh turn off the lights" they make me look fat with no muscles oh brother
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Hahahah the lighting! yes that would explain the mess
Haha I know shit excuse but it is a factor. Pictures don't always do full justice.
I know I'm not the best built but I'm know I'm not built like shit..
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Just give me 4-6 weeks and I'll post again looking much better and leaner.
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I have posted before but that was at a competition and I was natty...
I'm about 8/9 weeks into my cycle..
Tren 100mg EOD, Mast 50mg EOD, Test Prop 50mg EOD.
I was about 190lbs at my competition and I'm about 250lbs @ 6'1, BF unsure...
So do you think I have potential?
Thanks
You're on gear????
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If I bulked to 250 as a natty I would be fat as fuck
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If I bulked to 250 as a natty I would be fat as fuck
You would still look like a fat cvnt but at least you'd have a couple of grand to spend on nice jumpers to cover it up
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I don't get the bantering? Constructive criticism won't hurt... I know this is GetBig but I mean I'm not the worst looking guy ever and I'm not an obese fuck couch potato that complains about my life.
But as I said give me time and I'll show you a better me...
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seriously you are what we talk about genetics, you just don't have them for bb,maybe better suited for football and i guarantee you have no shape at all to your legs .sorry just trying to save you wasting your time .you can still be big but competition is out of the question
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I don't get the bantering? Constructive criticism won't hurt... I know this is GetBig but I mean I'm not the worst looking guy ever and I'm not an obese fuck couch potato that complains about my life.
But as I said give me time and I'll show you a better me...
Ok here's some constructive criticisim:
Weigh yourself. Estimate how many pounds of bodyfat you are carrying. Subtract that from your overall weight.
Subtract 500-600 calories off your daily calories requirement. Change your daily diet from kebabs and donuts to the following:
No sugars/treats/crap food
1 gram of protein per pound of lean bodyweight.
0.5 grams of fat per pound of lean bodyweight
100g of carbs.
Continue to take your gear, but add 45 mins of fasted cardio in the morning, and 25mg eph/200mg caffiene & 2 glasses of strong grapefruit juice before this.
take the eph/caffiene/grapefruit juice once more after lunch.
Lift weights the same as you are currently doing.
Repeat this daily procedure for about 12 weeks. Post the results on getbig and I will give you the time of day.
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obese
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Ok here's some constructive criticisim:
Weigh yourself. Estimate how many pounds of bodyfat you are carrying. Subtract that from your overall weight.
Subtract 500-600 calories off your daily calories requirement. Change your daily diet from kebabs and donuts to the following:
No sugars/treats/crap food
1 gram of protein per pound of lean bodyweight.
0.5 grams of fat per pound of lean bodyweight
100g of carbs.
Continue to take your gear, but add 45 mins of fasted cardio in the morning, and 25mg eph/200mg caffiene & 2 glasses of strong grapefruit juice before this.
take the eph/caffiene/grapefruit juice once more after lunch.
Lift weights the same as you are currently doing.
Repeat this daily procedure for about 12 weeks. Post the results on getbig and I will give you the time of day.
This is what I'm doing at the moment. Haven't started cardio though and I don't have access to ephedrine.
My plan was to get me some clen next month and work from there.
So I am dieting ATM for 2 weeks so far and I've lost a bit of fat already. Think I should start the cardio next week.
Thanks for the advice and I know you're not being an asshole just to be one, but really just to try to help me out..
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Just give me 4-6 weeks and I'll post again looking much better and leaner.
I'm going to be real with you for a second and ask you an honest question.
Do you really believe you are going to change much in 4-6 weeks?
I'm being serious. Some of you guys are really starting to question my own sanity with threads like this.
8)
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I'm going to be real with you for a second and ask you an honest question.
Do you really believe you are going to change much in 4-6 weeks?
I'm being serious. Some of you guys are really starting to question my own sanity with threads like this.
8)
Yes, I know I can be somewhat leaner, maybe under 10% or just above in about 6 weeks time if I work hard at it, which I know I will.
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Yes, I know I can be somewhat leaner, maybe under 10% or just above in about 6 weeks time if I work hard at it, which I know I will.
good luck bro
:)
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8 week at 300 tren+mast+prop and looking like shiy honestly.
if gear are not fake then learn to train eat etc before juicing.
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Ok here's some constructive criticisim:
Weigh yourself. Estimate how many pounds of bodyfat you are carrying. Subtract that from your overall weight.
Subtract 500-600 calories off your daily calories requirement. Change your daily diet from kebabs and donuts to the following:
No sugars/treats/crap food
1 gram of protein per pound of lean bodyweight.
0.5 grams of fat per pound of lean bodyweight
100g of carbs.
Continue to take your gear, but add 45 mins of fasted cardio in the morning, and 25mg eph/200mg caffiene & 2 glasses of strong grapefruit juice before this.
take the eph/caffiene/grapefruit juice once more after lunch.
Lift weights the same as you are currently doing.
Repeat this daily procedure for about 12 weeks. Post the results on getbig and I will give you the time of day.
or 1h of this
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Fat_removal_using_cannula_during_tumescent_liposuction.jpg/800px-Fat_removal_using_cannula_during_tumescent_liposuction.jpg)
your call
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Yes, I know I can be somewhat leaner, maybe under 10% or just above in about 6 weeks time if I work hard at it, which I know I will.
Seriously dude, realistic expectations... you're not going to be under 10% in about six weeks. You're easily 20% bodyfat in that pic. At 250lbs, that means you're carrying 50lbs of bodyfat. Which means you'd have to lose about 4lbs a week of pure bodyfat in order to get down to 10% bodyfat in six weeks. When you realistically include glycogen depletion and all of the other good stuff that'll happen when dieting, you'll have to lose more than 4lbs per week in order to meet your goal.
I'm not sure what everyone's experiences here are, but 4lbs a week of pure bodyfat to lose seems like a tall order to me. Set your expectations lower, start cutting now, and do it till you really are under 10% bodyfat. Then you can start bulking again.
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I'm really not that fat I can assure you.
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Look like shit hope this helps. Sweet tits.
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I'm really not that fat I can assure you.
post different pics to prove your point, the pics you posted don't work to make you look muscular and not fat
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Bro, I have to give you props for posting a pic. But Howard is right, set realistic goals. This is not a race, and to be honest with you, no matter what you do you will not get under 10% in that amount of time. Set your goal low and feel good when you exceed it.
One last thing, is there anyway I can run your nipples between my thumb and index finger? no homo intended.
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Meal # 1:
8 eggwhites,1 whole egg (scrambled in non-fat cooking spray)
1/2 cup oats ( no milk,use artificial sweetener)
12 oz. water
Meal # 2 :
1 can water packed tuna (plain)
lg. green salad (with fat-free dressing......... should only contain 3 gms. of sugar or less)
12 oz. water
Meal # 3 :
5 oz. boneless skinless chicken breast
1 baked potato (use "I Can`t Believe It`s Not Butter" spray)
1-2 cups green beans
12 oz. water
Meal # 4 :
5 oz. chicken breast
1 cup brown rice
1 cup green veggies
water
Meal # 5 :(Pre-Workout)
1 scoop whey in H2O
1 scoop whey in H2O
1/4 to 1/2 cup plain oats
Meal # 6 :(Post-Workout)
1 scoop whey in H2O
1 scoop whey in H2O
1/4 to 1/2 cup plain oats
Meals 5 + 6 should be placed pre and post workout respectively
Do 30-45 minutes of cardio 5-6 days a week after training and on off days (use an inclined treadmill.............si mply walk at a good pace varying the speed and the level of incline throughout)
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Looks terrific! Now carb-load and to the beach.... 8)
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WES... i want you to be my personal chef ;D.
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WES... i want you to be my personal chef ;D.
:D
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WES... i want you to be my personal chef twink musclebear ;D.
fixed
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why would u let your self get that fat??? Once u see your titties floopin about wouldnt u say somthin aint right here.
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a potential disaster maybe.
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a potential disaster maybe.
hahahaha
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why the fuck are u using masteron with 16+ BF?
stick to trenbolone, very little test, and diet.
and Maybe proviron to hold all that water...
u dont have potential, we can see nothing, no muscles, no separations, cause the fat is on the way.
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You have potential to be the next michelin man
(http://www.naylornetwork.com/naf-nwl/assets/michelin-man.jpg)
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As I said just give me time and I'll post a pic again when I'm leaner.
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why the fuck are u using masteron with 16+ BF?
stick to trenbolone, very little test, and diet.
and Maybe proviron to hold all that water...
u dont have potential, we can see nothing, no muscles, no separations, cause the fat is on the way.
lol!
esse foi boa parceiro... ;D ;D ;D ;D
but yeah.....
masteron / proviron will help with the water retention... but this dude is still fat!!
so no need to worry about that now....
getting lean is what is needed ...
so indeed....
TREN..... 100 mg eod and if you cn handle more take more... like 150 mg eod... and maybe 100 mg ed...
low dose test! test P, start at 50 mg eod ... go from there....
if ya have money hgh.....
but really if no money just go for more tren!!
you will sweat like a pig.... and you are a pig now.. lol!!
but you WILL get lean.....
when at 10% get back to us here at getbig lol.... i still think you are trolling....
oh you will not be around 10 % in a matter of 3 or 4 weeks lol.... 2 months is more realistic...
that is why i never get fat!!!!!!!
i am not really 100% into training at the moment... but i do NOT let myself get fat!!!
i stay around 10% still am 235/240 so if i want i jump back on higher doses and am 260 in a matter of 2 months.... why....? because i am lean to start with!!!!
i go on tren
little test
some other compound of choice but really these 2 will do just fine....
BOOM! 260 10% when i want to get bigger hgh is needed ofcourse...
start lean... i can't say it enough...!!!!
you do not have to be stage lean... but normal people lean.... 10% is very lean for average human beings....
START LEAN!!!
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As I said just give me time and I'll post a pic again when I'm leaner.
WE WILL TRY TO REMEMBER YOU IN 2014... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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u look pretty fatty but maybe you have a good structure who knows
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You have potential to be on the biggest loser
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LOL at you guys. This poor loser is or will off himself from the depression now.
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cant tell if serious
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his problems is not the diet or cardio, he just dont stay on drugs, he likes to play with cycles on/off shit lol and during that off time he put alot of fat and when he go back on cycle it will be hard to get rid of it that fat, he may also use bunk hormones
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his problems is not the diet or cardio, he just dont stay on drugs, he likes to play with cycles on/off shit lol and during that off time he put alot of fat and when he go back on cycle it will be hard to get rid of it that fat, he may also use bunk hormones
Drugs aside,this guy needs to diet and do cardio.
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I have posted before but that was at a competition and I was natty...
I'm about 8/9 weeks into my cycle..
Tren 100mg EOD, Mast 50mg EOD, Test Prop 50mg EOD.
I was about 190lbs at my competition and I'm about 250lbs @ 6'1, BF unsure...
So do you think I have potential?
Thanks
don't use the drugs, you can look better without them, just train for a shorter duration and more intense, to avoid overtraining.
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Yes I do. Its actually one of my best bodyparts..
Perhaps you inadvertently photoshopped them out with you were flexing your bicep. Sorry, my bad if thats the case.
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This is what I'm doing at the moment. Haven't started cardio though and I don't have access to ephedrine.
My plan was to get me some clen next month and work from there.
So I am dieting ATM for 2 weeks so far and I've lost a bit of fat already. Think I should start the cardio next week.
Thanks for the advice and I know you're not being an asshole just to be one, but really just to try to help me out..
Couple of things...BigCyp said 100gms of carbs PER DAY.....not per meal.....he said NO CHEAT.....
Also, just because you close your eyes while you eat, doesn't mean the calories dont count
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You are fat as fuck little piggy.
Seriously, do you have down syndrome?
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Drugs aside,this guy needs to diet and do cardio.
when you say diet, what do you meen about eating clean wile he is on tren? lol, he says he is on 8/9 weeks on tren, when you on that period of time on tren/mast you will se different more muscle separation no mater what diet you are
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potential of what? gay 4 pay?
:-X
tier 16374906
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actually you look like a 20yr old natty that bulked up to 250 still beliving that this is the way to look like a bodybuilder without drugs
i know first hand ;)
wake up! this is not how bodybuilding works
serious bodybuilder is always sub 9-10%
and the mass is in the compounds not in bulking
that s a flex magazin myth
diet down and restart
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when you say diet, what do you meen about eating clean wile he is on tren? lol, he says he is on 8/9 weeks on tren, when you on that period of time on tren/mast you will se different more muscle separation no mater what diet you are
Thanks for the Tren lesson.....if he is/was on Tren for weeks,why is he soft and fat.
Drugs are no excuse for laziness.
If he was starting out lean on Tren it would be different,but he`s not,he is fat while doing tren,which means he needs to eat cleaner and do cardio to burn up the excess fat.
Just because a guy takes gear doesn`t mean he can live on cake and ice cream while training like a pansy,and not doing cardio as needed.
When you get this out of shape while on gear,something else is usually not in place.
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Cut the fat-Diet and cardio. Go to school, college, etc and find a field in demand as a career. Give up wasting money on juice to win plastic trophies.
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you get tren from walgreen.walmart or cvs go there and tell the you want bronkaide or primatine its behind the counter. some have 8mg and some have 25mg
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at least you allready have the color of Dennis Wolf, now you need his source.... lol!!
:D
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;D
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Thanks for the Tren lesson.....if he is/was on Tren for weeks,why is he soft and fat.
He mentioned he is competitive bodybuilder (hard to believe), so my point is when you compete and come of the drugs that what you end up with, look flat and fat and then when he go back on the cycle and look the same as off the gear, why? cause he is running a bunk products.
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He mentioned he is competitive bodybuilder (hard to believe), so my point is when you compete and come of the drugs that what you end up with, look flat and fat and then when he go back on the cycle and look the same as off the gear, why? cause he is running a bunk products.
That very well could be.
I misunderstood your earlier post.....sorry bud! ;)
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his dosage is low he is tall I am the same height it can be very hard to build muscle at 6'1. 300mg test and 300mg tren just isn't enough and i think he is over eating trying to force growth dante style you cycle is good for a diet not much else. People will say different I'm 6'1 it take at least a 1gm of gear to build decent size closer to 1.5. I have noticed this with all tall people it is common knowledge but yes he is over eating. you dont look quit as that bad just need to lose 5% bf I tend to think your bf is well over 15% your skin color doesnt help tan .
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You ask a person you've never met, never seen and whose name you do not know for advise? I'll help you.
Q: Do I have potential?
A: Yes, you will make an excellent transvestite.
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Maybe he's just holding water
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Thanks for the Tren lesson.....if he is/was on Tren for weeks,why is he soft and fat.
Drugs are no excuse for laziness.
If he was starting out lean on Tren it would be different,but he`s not,he is fat while doing tren,which means he needs to eat cleaner and do cardio to burn up the excess fat.
Just because a guy takes gear doesn`t mean he can live on cake and ice cream while training like a pansy,and not doing cardio as needed.When you get this out of shape while on gear,something else is usually not in place.
BINGO!
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BINGO!
We gotta` stop meeting like this bro! :D
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Up the dose.
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You have amazing potential to effect a full male-to-female sex change. Tits are already looking very promising and suckable. Looks like you have some nice estrogen filled adipose as well. Just need to find a surgeon to turn your weiner inside out and you're good to go.
Approved!
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We gotta` stop meeting like this bro! :D
Man, I was going to light this lazy dude up but you did it for me in a nicer way.
Seriously, is this guy for real?
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(http://i42.tinypic.com/315hf61.jpg)
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You have amazing potential to effect a full male-to-female sex change. Tits are already looking very promising and suckable. Looks like you have some nice estrogen filled adipose as well. Just need to find a surgeon to turn your weiner inside out and you're good to go.
Approved!
;D
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definately need to get leaner mate, should post those before pics, might give us an idea
also are you actually injecting the juice? haha, but seriously as long as you have the right attitude you can get where you want to go
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(http://i42.tinypic.com/315hf61.jpg)
That dude is son of Grossberger..
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg255/scaled.php?server=255&filename=untitledwinceup6.png&res=medium)
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That dude is son of Grossberger..
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg255/scaled.php?server=255&filename=untitledwinceup6.png&res=medium)
i thought it might be a bastard child of king kong bundy
(http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/bundy2.jpg)
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your not that bad as all the comments your just 3-5% to heavy lack of tan makes it worse but you don't look horrible. I will tell you this tall guys take more gear I don't care what anyone says that 300test 300 tren might get steve namat or buesselmo in shape not some one 6'1 you need at least the amount of muscle they have to look like a twink. Give ya credit you ate yourself to 250 i never could lol
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t3,DNP,clen,ephedrine,meth stack
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serious bitch tits potential
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your not that bad as all the comments your just 3-5% to heavy lack of tan makes it worse but you don't look horrible. I will tell you this tall guys take more gear I don't care what anyone says that 300test 300 tren might get steve namat or buesselmo in shape not some one 6'1 you need at least the amount of muscle they have to look like a twink. Give ya credit you ate yourself to 250 i never could lol
Thanks for the positive feed back. I think you have a point there saying taller guys need more gear. But we will see how it goes! If I lose bodyfat I'm gonna look much better I can certainly agree on that!
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ur 250 in those pics? :o doesnt look that way :-\
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(http://i42.tinypic.com/315hf61.jpg)
Who is this guy and why does he think he looks good? Really is this like a Jason Genova joke or something?
EL PACIFICO!
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Thanks for the positive feed back. I think you have a point there saying taller guys need more gear. But we will see how it goes! If I lose bodyfat I'm gonna look much better I can certainly agree on that!
Yes, more gear is the answer. ::)
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Yes, more gear is the answer. ::)
:D
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don't listen to these guys bashing you. if you want to compete you know what you need to do...the right drugs, food training ect and yes you can win some shows
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don't listen to these guys bashing you. if you want to compete you know what you need to do...the right drugs, food training ect and yes you can win some shows
Yeah he`ll be Mr. Olympia in no time flat
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=419970.0;attach=462353;image)
This kid needs to get busy and actually put in some work in the gym,on the treadmill,and at the table consistantly,then worry about drugs.
This is the kind of guy who should have never started on gear until he came at least remotely close to his natural potential.
No base,no foundation,no discipline = no bodybuilding.
You don`t just get a decent physique by hoping for one,or by osmosis.........bottom line!!
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Yeah he`ll be Mr. Olympia in no time flat
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=419970.0;attach=462353;image)
This kid needs to get busy and actually put in some work in the gym,on the treadmill,and at the table consistantly,then worry about drugs.
This is the kind of guy who should have never started on gear until he came at least remotely close to his natural potential.
No base,no foundation,no discipline = no bodybuilding.
You don`t just get a decent physique by hoping for one,or by osmosis.........bottom line!!
You don't have a right to tell me I don't train hard... Maybe I don't apply that same attitude to nutrition or cardio but I do know I train hard in the gym and do my best. I may not have the best genetics and may have gotten bunk/underdosed gear but I do know myself and you don't so you don't have any backing saying I don't train hard and bust my ass in the gym.
And I do respect you Wes because you know a lot more than me and have been in the game a lot longer than me, but you don't have any right saying I don't train hard just because I'm not ripped.
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And I don't want to make it sound like and excuse because its not, but I'm from South Africa and we don't have all the training / nutrition advice, great gear etc like you guys have there in the US.
Bodybuilding is still kind of small here.
I mean we struggle to get sponsors for local shows and the most shows we have a year I would guess is 20 tops. All amateur, no pro shows etc.
The only place BB is huge is in the US and we are a few years behind over here. I mean our best pro to date is Marius Dohne, and we've only had like 2/3 pros before.
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Yeah he`ll be Mr. Olympia in no time flat
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=419970.0;attach=462353;image)
This kid needs to get busy and actually put in some work in the gym,on the treadmill,and at the table consistantly,then worry about drugs.
This is the kind of guy who should have never started on gear until he came at least remotely close to his natural potential.
No base,no foundation,no discipline = no bodybuilding.
You don`t just get a decent physique by hoping for one,or by osmosis.........bottom line!!
I beg to differ Wes, have you seen some of the Pro's off drugs, and I mean completely off them? Yates didn't have genetics, he was a skinny little skin head. Look at some of the photos of Arnold off and he looks like a runner. Strydom was pitiful and on drugs his physique and shoulders looked great. All these guys were skinny off drugs, not fat. It all boils down to if a person has minimal fat and good response to drugs. Because this kid looks like he has a predisposition to hold fat, he'll have to struggle to look lean and keep weight off. I do agree with you on the kid needs cardio and food control. He needs to look at his parents, if they are smooth and dumpy, then odds are he will be. If they are skinny and he's fat from being lazy and stuffing his pie hole, well then he could look good with some hard work and then move on to drugs.
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You don't have a right to tell me I don't train hard... Maybe I don't apply that same attitude to nutrition or cardio but I do know I train hard in the gym and do my best. I may not have the best genetics and may have gotten bunk/underdosed gear but I do know myself and you don't so you don't have any backing saying I don't train hard and bust my ass in the gym.
And I do respect you Wes because you know a lot more than me and have been in the game a lot longer than me, but you don't have any right saying I don't train hard just because I'm not ripped.
Where did I say you didn`t train hard?
I said consistant work,eating,and cardio,then worry about gear.
Drugs don`t work as well if everything else is not in place..........it`s a four pronged attack................tr aining,diet,cardio,drugs...........not one or two of the four,but all four done on a consistant basis.
You could train like a demon but if you are bodybuilding and are in the shape you are in in these pics,you`re doing something wrong.
I`m not flaming you,just trying to make you aware that you have to get more dedicated,and you did indeed post the pics for everyone to critique your potential..........I surely didn`t post them.
Look at all the insulting comments,and you pick my post advising hard work and dedication to single out as a dis on your physique.
Get it together bro!
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Where did I say you didn`t train hard?
I said consistant work,eating,and cardio,then worry about gear.
Drugs don`t work as well if everything else is not in place..........it`s a four pronged attack................tr aining,diet,cardio,drugs...........not one or two of the four,but all four done on a consistant basis.
You could train like a demon but if you are bodybuilding and are in the shape you are in in these pics,you`re doing something wrong.
I`m not flaming you,just trying to make you aware that you have to get more dedicated,and you did indeed post the pics for everyone to critique your potential..........I surely didn`t post them.
Look at all the insulting comments,and you pick my post advising hard work and dedication to single out as a dis on your physique.
Get it together bro!
WES, WHY ARE YOU FLAMING THIS POOR LAD? ;)
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Look at all of my posts in this thread,they are all advocating hard work,no trolling or flaming,just hard fucking work.
Lots of people put you down..............follow the diet I posted,surely they have food in South Africa.
The diet`s tough,are you tough enough to give it a shot?
Generation nothingness = want it all without working for it!
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Look at all of my posts in this thread,they are all advocating hard work,no trolling or flaming,just hard fucking work.
Lots of people put you down..............follow the diet I posted,surely they have food in South Africa.
The diet`s tough,are you tough enough to give it a shot?
Generation nothingness = want it all without working for it!
Where did I say you didn`t train hard?
I said consistant work,eating,and cardio,then worry about gear.
Drugs don`t work as well if everything else is not in place..........it`s a four pronged attack................tr aining,diet,cardio,drugs...........not one or two of the four,but all four done on a consistant basis.
You could train like a demon but if you are bodybuilding and are in the shape you are in in these pics,you`re doing something wrong.
I`m not flaming you,just trying to make you aware that you have to get more dedicated,and you did indeed post the pics for everyone to critique your potential..........I surely didn`t post them.
Look at all the insulting comments,and you pick my post advising hard work and dedication to single out as a dis on your physique.
Get it together bro!
I didn't mean to pick at your posts. It just felt to me like you made fun of me in most of your posts.
I appreciate it that your being honest and I'm sure you didn't intend to insult me, just came toward me that way.
And I do admit I should work harder at dieting and cardio to get my weight and bodyfat down and that what I really am doing at the moment.
As I said I started dieting last week and I know how to set up a diet and know what works for me and I WILL post pics again when I'm leaner and let you guys critique again.
The reason I posted the pics in the first place is because I got a lot of positive comments about the size I've gained here in SA, and I just wanted other peoples opinions on it, positive or negative.
But thanks for everything and watch this space.
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Generation nothingness = want it all without working for it!
Not I don't want it all without working for it. I like to work hard at achieving things and getting the results I want. I don't belong to generation nothingness
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Look at all of my posts in this thread,they are all advocating hard work,no trolling or flaming,just hard fucking work.
Lots of people put you down..............follow the diet I posted,surely they have food in South Africa.
The diet`s tough,are you tough enough to give it a shot?
Generation nothingness = want it all without working for it!
Im with you here Wes,
When Im waking up at every 5:30am so I can measure out some EC drink a strong green tea, cycling hard (by the beach :D) and eating an exact strict diet - never ever going over my calories - saying no EVERY time some m'fucker brings cakes into the office for their birthday - lifting weights 5 times a week - being a father/husband - only having one cheat meal (also carefully thought out) per fortnight to keep up my moral.......etc......etc eating fucken nuts at work instead of snickers ( :'()
Then I see this kid and that picture, with the same kid posting about his dedication? oh brother.
Like Wes said, don't even pick up a f'n needle if you have not carefully put the other 3 pieces of the puzzle together. It's like buying 400 dollar shoes, wearing them with walmart trousers, messed up hair, smelly breath, stains on your t-shirt and wondering WHY THE LADIES AT THE BAR ARE NOT IMPRESSED BY YOUR SHOES AND NOT SUCKING YOUR PENIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How did I make fun of you?
I did put up a smiley at some of the others comments,but my posts are all advocating hard work and dedication.............. ..............it might sound old school but it is still a prerequisite.
I`m glad you`re not a part of generation nothingness and if indeed you feel like I insulted you,it wasn`t my intention but sometimes a good kick in the ass will make people see things from a differtent perspective.
I fuck around on here for fun,and at times I troll or fuck with people,but for the most part,I`m here for the fun part and to learn or help others if I`m able to.
Sorry if you feel I insulted you......good luck and train hard.
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I beg to differ Wes, have you seen some of the Pro's off drugs, and I mean completely off them? Yates didn't have genetics, he was a skinny little skin head. Look at some of the photos of Arnold off and he looks like a runner. Strydom was pitiful and on drugs his physique and shoulders looked great. All these guys were skinny off drugs, not fat. It all boils down to if a person has minimal fat and good response to drugs. Because this kid looks like he has a predisposition to hold fat, he'll have to struggle to look lean and keep weight off. I do agree with you on the kid needs cardio and food control. He needs to look at his parents, if they are smooth and dumpy, then odds are he will be. If they are skinny and he's fat from being lazy and stuffing his pie hole, well then he could look good with some hard work and then move on to drugs.
Yes, both my parents are chubby and gain fat quite easily. But its more on my mothers side. My father was kind of muscular and lean when he was younger but only now with age he started to gain a bit fat.
My mother has struggeld with her weight for most of her life and I also was way overweight when I was younger. When I was between 13-15 y/o my bodyfat was atleats over 20% and then I got way skinny when I started training and the became a chubby strong guy. I'm 20 btw.
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Im with you here Wes,
When Im waking up at every 5:30am so I can measure out some EC drink a strong green tea, cycling hard (by the beach :D) and eating an exact strict diet - never ever going over my calories - saying no EVERY time some m'fucker brings cakes into the office for their birthday - lifting weights 5 times a week - being a father/husband - only having one cheat meal (also carefully thought out) per fortnight to keep up my moral.......etc......etc eating fucken nuts at work instead of snickers ( :'()
Then I see this kid and that picture, with the same kid posting about his dedication? oh brother.
Like Wes said, don't even pick up a f'n needle if you have not carefully put the other 3 pieces of the puzzle together. It's like buying 400 dollar shoes, wearing them with walmart trousers, messed up hair, smelly breath, stains on your t-shirt and wondering WHY THE LADIES AT THE BAR ARE NOT IMPRESSED BY YOUR SHOES AND NOT SUCKING YOUR PENIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good post!
Being in great shape isn`t easy and takes some level of determination as well as a lot of dedication.
If it was easy,we`d all walk around looking like Arnold while eating whatever we wanted to and hardly training.
You can still have a life outside the gym,and still eat well and do cardio.......it really doesn`t take up all that much time,just make it part of your lifestyle.
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Me at 15/16 and last year when I was leaner...
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gh15 account users don't look much if any better than op.
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Good post!
Being in great shape isn`t easy and takes some level of determination as well as a lot of dedication.
If it was easy,we`d all walk around looking like Arnold while eating whatever we wanted to and hardly training.
You can still have a life outside the gym,and still eat well and do cardio.......it really doesn`t take up all that much time,just make it part of your lifestyle.
Im with you here Wes,
When Im waking up at every 5:30am so I can measure out some EC drink a strong green tea, cycling hard (by the beach :D) and eating an exact strict diet - never ever going over my calories - saying no EVERY time some m'fucker brings cakes into the office for their birthday - lifting weights 5 times a week - being a father/husband - only having one cheat meal (also carefully thought out) per fortnight to keep up my moral.......etc......etc eating fucken nuts at work instead of snickers ( :'()
Then I see this kid and that picture, with the same kid posting about his dedication? oh brother.
Like Wes said, don't even pick up a f'n needle if you have not carefully put the other 3 pieces of the puzzle together. It's like buying 400 dollar shoes, wearing them with walmart trousers, messed up hair, smelly breath, stains on your t-shirt and wondering WHY THE LADIES AT THE BAR ARE NOT IMPRESSED BY YOUR SHOES AND NOT SUCKING YOUR PENIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
finally ....some sense on getbig!!! about fucking time, far to much rubbish spouted on here by people who have never looked good a single day in there lives
also, fat peoples lack of will power truly sickens me!
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finally ....some sense on getbig!!! about fucking time, far to much rubbish spouted on here by people who have never looked good a single day in there lives
also, fat peoples lack of will power truly sickens me!
well.....
i do not agree here totally..... ;D
i have done this... dieting around the clock.. eating every fucking 2/3 hours...
when someone offered me a cake i refused.... missing out on life big time!!
now i just use common sense.....!
i eat about 4 meals a day...my breakfast is a real party..! lol... i eat about 5 eggwhites and some bread and cake... yes cake! lol... i love it!
then the rest of my meals are low carb and protein... i eat a chicken.... whole eggs.... only after my work out i eat carbs again... rice and chicken... not dry but tastefull and rich...
when someone offers me a snack.. i eat it! when i feel like eating some sweets i eat it!
but always with common sense.... not to much....
result is i look much better then when i was stuffing myself with "clean" foods every 2/3 hours....
most of you guys eat waaayyyy to much....
anyway most of my food consist of whole eggs... chicken.... some bread, rice... all very tastefull and rich .... not dry boring food....
you only live once man..... do not miss out to much!
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How did I make fun of you?
I did put up a smiley at some of the others comments,but my posts are all advocating hard work and dedication.............. ..............it might sound old school but it is still a prerequisite.
I`m glad you`re not a part of generation nothingness and if indeed you feel like I insulted you,it wasn`t my intention but sometimes a good kick in the ass will make people see things from a differtent perspective.
I fuck around on here for fun,and at times I troll or fuck with people,but for the most part,I`m here for the fun part and to learn or help others if I`m able to.
Sorry if you feel I insulted you......good luck and train hard.
I apologise. Maybe I was maybe a bit to sensitive or didn't read your posts the right way.
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I apologise. Maybe I was maybe a bit to sensitive or didn't read your posts the right way.
No problem bro,good luck in your training. ;)
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The internet has gone crazy with advice about how you have to eat large in order to be large. This is true for the big guys but what they don't tell you is they didn't start off at 5k calories a day. You have to work your way up to it. Once you get to a point where you look good but stop making progress with your weights that is when you increase your calories and your dosages. Even with the assistance of drugs it still takes patience and consistency. I've seen so many people try to rush it and they end up looking like big fat red water balloons.
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dude start dieting
Eat clean every meal, maybe 1 cheat meal a week. Your way to fat, you will never look good being fat.
By the looks of u, u need to do at least 45min to an hour of cardio a day after your workout.
Do this and after a few weeks u will see results. Idk why your even messing around with aas, you just need to lose that blubber first.
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Yeah he`ll be Mr. Olympia in no time flat
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=419970.0;attach=462353;image)
This kid needs to get busy and actually put in some work in the gym,on the treadmill,and at the table consistently,then worry about drugs.This is the kind of guy who should have never started on gear until he came at least remotely close to his natural potential.
No base,no foundation,no discipline = no bodybuilding.You don`t just get a decent physique by hoping for one,or by osmosis.........bottom line!!
Damn it!
I'm sooooooo fucking sick of these children who 1. Eat constantly like a Piggy 2. DO NO CARDIO 3.TAKE FUCKING TREN FOR GODS SAKE!
Does that make sense to ANYONE? DOES IT?
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You don't have a right to tell me I don't train hard... Maybe I don't apply that same attitude to nutrition or cardio but I do know I train hard in the gym and do my best. I may not have the best genetics and may have gotten bunk/underdosed gear but I do know myself and you don't so you don't have any backing saying I don't train hard and bust my ass in the gym.
And I do respect you Wes because you know a lot more than me and have been in the game a lot longer than me, but you don't have any right saying I don't train hard just because I'm not ripped.
1. MAYBE?
2. YOU TRAIN HARD? REALLY?
3. NOT RIPPED? LOL!LOL! Dude you ARE FAT.
Sorry Wes, he made me do it.
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Look man, just eat less food, do cardio 4 times per week, NO ANABOLICS, oh AND EAT LESS.
Then post a pic looking like a lean machine, along with a note that says "fuck off D.O.U.P."
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Look man, just eat less food, do cardio 4 times per week, NO ANABOLICS, oh AND EAT LESS.
Then post a pic looking like a lean machine, along with a note that says "fuck off D.O.U.P."
Fuck off D.O.U.P.
(http://ronnyis.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/fat-man.jpg)
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bro, first off do not get bronkaid or any type of ephedrine, your BP will sky rocket at that BF since your on tren and other drugs as well. matter of fact stay away from ephedrine period. I def recommend trying t3 if you can get it, start at 25mcg and work your way up.... you look like shit but you have massive balls for posting those pics.
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finally ....some sense on getbig!!! about fucking time, far to much rubbish spouted on here by people who have never looked good a single day in there lives
also, fat peoples lack of will power truly sickens me!
Yes!!! Fat people + willpower = not fat people lol it's as simple as that man
Im with you mate, nothing worse than a fat bitch moaning about how she used to be a size 10 5 years ago while slowly muching a whole packet of biscuits every day in the office lol >:(
I always remember one time when I was the youngest guy in the office, some fat girl was moaning about how she is 'stuck' at blah blah weight and can't seem to 'shift it' (the bitch was about 15 stones and 5'5 lol) so without thinking I shout "It probably doesn't help that you eat a pack of cookies every morning at your desk!!!!!"
Well, i thought it was funny but I got a lot of hate for a while for that one lol. ;D
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Fuck off D.O.U.P.
(http://ronnyis.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/fat-man.jpg)
Solid.
:)
Should have known that was coming. :)
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Solid.
:)
Should have known that was coming. :)
I am glad I did not disapoint you. ;)
I forgot to mention that I am going to post a pic in 6 weeks showing me under 10% BF.
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Me at 15/16 and last year when I was leaner...
you were 13-14% there,congrats,now you gained 4 lbs of muscle and 20 lbs of fat over.GOOD JOB! ::)
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I didn't mean to pick at your posts. It just felt to me like you made fun of me in most of your posts.
I appreciate it that your being honest and I'm sure you didn't intend to insult me, just came toward me that way.
And I do admit I should work harder at dieting and cardio to get my weight and bodyfat down and that what I really am doing at the moment.
As I said I started dieting last week and I know how to set up a diet and know what works for me and I WILL post pics again when I'm leaner and let you guys critique again.
The reason I posted the pics in the first place is because I got a lot of positive comments about the size I've gained here in SA, and I just wanted other peoples opinions on it, positive or negative.
But thanks for everything and watch this space.
Dude wes is probably the only dude on getbig that will actually help you and not be an asshole. You completely ignored all of the clowns in this thread mocking you calling you a piglet and female and yet you go at it with wes.
Go back and read all his posts, and get on the diet he posted. If you wont do that you are just a lazy kid who is the epitome of generation nothingness.
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Hey Mr. Cat, do I have potential?
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Dude wes is probably the only dude on getbig that will actually help you and not be an asshole. You completely ignored all of the clowns in this thread mocking you calling you a piglet and female and yet you go at it with wes.
Go back and read all his posts, and get on the diet he posted. If you wont do that you are just a lazy kid who is the epitome of generation nothingness.
Thanks for the kind words bro! ;)
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Thanks for the kind words bro! ;)
Np. Just sayin it how it is 8)
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Thanks for the kind words bro! ;)
your worth it sexy
oh brother :D
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your worth it sexy
oh brother :D
Don`t you have a pharmacy clerk or two that you are due to humiliate soon? :D
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well.....
i do not agree here totally..... ;D
i have done this... dieting around the clock.. eating every fucking 2/3 hours...
when someone offered me a cake i refused.... missing out on life big time!!
now i just use common sense.....!
i eat about 4 meals a day...my breakfast is a real party..! lol... i eat about 5 eggwhites and some bread and cake... yes cake! lol... i love it!
then the rest of my meals are low carb and protein... i eat a chicken.... whole eggs.... only after my work out i eat carbs again... rice and chicken... not dry but tastefull and rich...
when someone offers me a snack.. i eat it! when i feel like eating some sweets i eat it!
but always with common sense.... not to much....
result is i look much better then when i was stuffing myself with "clean" foods every 2/3 hours....
most of you guys eat waaayyyy to much....
anyway most of my food consist of whole eggs... chicken.... some bread, rice... all very tastefull and rich .... not dry boring food....
you only live once man..... do not miss out to much!
i get what your saying, but your at the other end of the scale of these people,, your already lean, most probly use tren and gh most the year round, which alows you to get away with not being so strict
im not saying live like a monk either, but common sence approach eating bodybuilding food, which actualy is what i prefer eating most of the time.. chicken/steak/eggs/fish with veg, baked pots/rice/pasta a bit sauce to spice them up
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i get what your saying, but your at the other end of the scale of these people,, your already lean, most probly use tren and gh most the year round, which alows you to get away with not being so strict
im not saying live like a monk either, but common sence approach eating bodybuilding food, which actualy is what i prefer eating most of the time.. chicken/steak/eggs/fish with veg, baked pots/rice/pasta a bit sauce to spice them up
Best thing about eating 'clean' most of the year is that when you do chuck in some fancy food you feel like you just won a prize lol.
Even adding some low fat houmous with my meal last night I felt like a king hahaha, missus was like wtf are you eating "oh just some slices of apple with some low fat houmous babe" she gave me the 'what a f'kn gaylord look' good times.
Seriously though, when I have a high carb day (usually keep this to only once every 14 days) I occasionaly grab a tiny pot of haigen daz pralines and cream and feel like a 10 year old kid for 30 mins (i mean 30 secs lol) 8)
I don't envy pizza stuffers one bit when I am at the gym checking out my tricep when it looks like it's been vacum packed :D
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You look horrible for a natural. The fact that you're on juice is even more ridiculous.
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Dude wes is probably the only dude on getbig that will actually help you and not be an asshole. You completely ignored all of the clowns in this thread mocking you calling you a piglet and female and yet you go at it with wes.Go back and read all his posts, and get on the diet he posted. If you wont do that u are just a lazy kid who is the epitome of generationyo nothingness.
Double Bingo!!
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Haha I know shit excuse but it is a factor. Pictures don't always do full justice.
I know I'm not the best built but I'm know I'm not built like shit..
Yes you are....absolute shit
you look horrible
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You really take this. . .
" I'm about 8/9 weeks into my cycle..
Tren 100mg EOD, Mast 50mg EOD, Test Prop 50mg EOD."
. . . and you look like this? Please tell me I'm having a nightmare and this is all a bad dream. You have to be kidding.
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The only person I actually listened to in this thread is Wes if you read my posts above and did I not apologise to him?
He is probably one of the most respected members on GB so why would I want to bash him?
And I don't care who calls me female or WTF else. Your opinions don't mean shit to me.
And excuse me for not being "ripped and shredded" all my life like some of you guys make out to be.
Yes I know I'm lazy in the kitchen and on the treadmill but I'm changing it and taking it day by day to better myself.
Atleast I'm taking action and not like some people who just sit on their ass and complain all day.
There was also a time in YOUR life you also looked like shit so STFU!
But I will make a "come back" and look better than ever so keep on bashing me, I don't give a shit.
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Yes, both my parents are chubby and gain fat quite easily. But its more on my mothers side. My father was kind of muscular and lean when he was younger but only now with age he started to gain a bit fat.
My mother has struggeld with her weight for most of her life and I also was way overweight when I was younger. When I was between 13-15 y/o my bodyfat was atleats over 20% and then I got way skinny when I started training and the became a chubby strong guy. I'm 20 btw.
You are going to have trouble with weight all your life. You need to concentrate on carbio and food intake. Steroids won't make you thin...esp. test. HGH would be a key component in a drug regimen at a moderately high dose.
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The only person I actually listened to in this thread is Wes if you read my posts above and did I not apologise to him?
He is probably one of the most respected members on GB so why would I want to bash him?
And I don't care who calls me female or WTF else. Your opinions don't mean shit to me.
And excuse me for not being "ripped and shredded" all my life like some of you guys make out to be.
Yes I know I'm lazy in the kitchen and on the treadmill but I'm changing it and taking it day by day to better myself.
Atleast I'm taking action and not like some people who just sit on their ass and complain all day.
There was also a time in YOUR life you also looked like shit so STFU!
But I will make a "come back" and look better than ever so keep on bashing me, I don't give a shit.
Take your mom with you too :D make sure that bitch will loose weight otherwise i won't touch her again :-X
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The only person I actually listened to in this thread is Wes if you read my posts above and did I not apologise to him?
He is probably one of the most respected members on GB so why would I want to bash him?
And I don't care who calls me female or WTF else. Your opinions don't mean shit to me.
And excuse me for not being "ripped and shredded" all my life like some of you guys make out to be.
Yes I know I'm lazy in the kitchen and on the treadmill but I'm changing it and taking it day by day to better myself.
Atleast I'm taking action and not like some people who just sit on their ass and complain all day.
There was also a time in YOUR life you also looked like shit so STFU!
But I will make a "come back" and look better than ever so keep on bashing me, I don't give a shit.
Nelson Mandela induced meltdown.
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well.....
i do not agree here totally..... ;D
i have done this... dieting around the clock.. eating every fucking 2/3 hours...
when someone offered me a cake i refused.... missing out on life big time!!
now i just use common sense.....!
i eat about 4 meals a day...my breakfast is a real party..! lol... i eat about 5 eggwhites and some bread and cake... yes cake! lol... i love it!
then the rest of my meals are low carb and protein... i eat a chicken.... whole eggs.... only after my work out i eat carbs again... rice and chicken... not dry but tastefull and rich...
when someone offers me a snack.. i eat it! when i feel like eating some sweets i eat it!
but always with common sense.... not to much....
result is i look much better then when i was stuffing myself with "clean" foods every 2/3 hours....
most of you guys eat waaayyyy to much....
anyway most of my food consist of whole eggs... chicken.... some bread, rice... all very tastefull and rich .... not dry boring food....
you only live once man..... do not miss out to much!
People eat too much, so true.
One of the dumbest things i ever heard was this:
I'm eating some chicken and rice at a party about 15 years ago...I'm about 215 at the time and lean. A good friend of mine, a fellow lifter, comes up to me and says, "you gotta stop eating that shit...eat more red meat, milk ,cheese....and eat BIG.....what would you rather look like? a chicken or a cow?"
I didn't even respond, the statement was so stupid
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People eat too much, so true.
One of the dumbest things i ever heard was this:
I'm eating some chicken and rice at a party about 15 years ago...I'm about 215 at the time and lean. A good friend of mine, a fellow lifter, comes up to me and says, "you gotta stop eating that shit...eat more red meat, milk ,cheese....and eat BIG.....what would you rather look like? a chicken or a cow?"
I didn't even respond, the statement was so stupid
Hahahaha you have to wonder sometimes lol.
Right now I am currently dieting to look like a meth addict (because I am using ephedrine) ::)
Later on I will switch my goal to look like a vegetable patch, with a turkey living in the middle of it ::)
and then after I train I will be aiming to look like a box of eggs with a banana sitting on top
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Best thing about eating 'clean' most of the year is that when you do chuck in some fancy food you feel like you just won a prize lol.
Even adding some low fat houmous with my meal last night I felt like a king hahaha, missus was like wtf are you eating "oh just some slices of apple with some low fat houmous babe" she gave me the 'what a f'kn gaylord look' good times.
Seriously though, when I have a high carb day (usually keep this to only once every 14 days) I occasionaly grab a tiny pot of haigen daz pralines and cream and feel like a 10 year old kid for 30 mins (i mean 30 secs lol) 8)
I don't envy pizza stuffers one bit when I am at the gym checking out my tricep when it looks like it's been vacum packed :D
Every 14 days?! Christ, I'd die.
I go four - five days with literally 0 carbs then I carb up before I go to bed with WHATEVER I want to eat. Literally anything. Last carb-up I had three massive plates of rice, a few Kit Kats, a few Mars bars, tons of cookies. The day after you look so full and big it's unbelievable.
Credit goes to nosleep for this, btw, the guy's a dieting genius.
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Every 14 days?! Christ, I'd die.
I go four - five days with literally 0 carbs then I carb up before I go to bed with WHATEVER I want to eat. Literally anything. Last carb-up I had three massive plates of rice, a few Kit Kats, a few Mars bars, tons of cookies. The day after you look so full and big it's unbelievable.
Credit goes to nosleep for this, btw, the guy's a dieting genius.
That`s called a re-feed.........works great if you are pretty lean.
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Every 14 days?! Christ, I'd die.
I go four - five days with literally 0 carbs then I carb up before I go to bed with WHATEVER I want to eat. Literally anything. Last carb-up I had three massive plates of rice, a few Kit Kats, a few Mars bars, tons of cookies. The day after you look so full and big it's unbelievable.
Credit goes to nosleep for this, btw, the guy's a dieting genius.
No I agree, I only do the 14 days when I have 20 pounds/so to lose (which I don't let happen too often)
Other than that if I am sitting between 7-10% I will just eat high protein/low carbs and then do a carb up every 7 days (otherwise I am flat as a chinese schoolgirl and hate life generally)
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That`s called a re-feed.........works great if you are pretty lean.
Word... Well, it works. ;D I get a slin belly too, I almost feel like a pro bodybuilder!
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No I agree, I only do the 14 days when I have 20 pounds/so to lose (which I don't let happen too often)
Other than that if I am sitting between 7-10% I will just eat high protein/low carbs and then do a carb up every 7 days (otherwise I am flat as a chinese schoolgirl and hate life generally)
So true. A week of no carbs and I literally deflate, even when I'm pumped up in the gym. Carbs are magic if you know how to use them.
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The only person I actually listened to in this thread is Wes if you read my posts above and did I not apologise to him?
He is probably one of the most respected members on GB so why would I want to bash him?
And I don't care who calls me female or WTF else. Your opinions don't mean shit to me.
And excuse me for not being "ripped and shredded" all my life like some of you guys make out to be.Yes I know I'm lazy in the kitchen and on the treadmill but I'm changing it and taking it day by day to better myself.
Atleast I'm taking action and not like some people who just sit on their ass and complain all day.
There was also a time in YOUR life you also looked like shit so STFU!
But I will make a "come back" and look better than ever so keep on bashing me, I don't give a shit.
STOP that shit about "ripped and shredded" Thats your manipulation of whats been posted about your build.
Good step admitting you're lazy in the kitchen beacuse THATS THE PROBLEM.
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Word... Well, it works. ;D I get a slin belly too, I almost feel like a pro bodybuilder!
:D
You should also try carb cycling bro...........here`s an article I wrote on it.......obviously you will need to tweak it for your own individul needs but this gives you the general idea.........works very well.
http://imbodybuilding.com/articles/carb-cycling/
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Shoot to kill
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Obvious troll is obvious...
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STOP that shit about "ripped and shredded" Thats your manipulation of whats been posted about your build.
Good step admitting you're lazy in the kitchen beacuse THATS THE PROBLEM.
he is not lazy in the kitchen,he is very active in the kitchen,lol,he eats shitloads and he is lazy in the gym :D
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Seriously doubt the 250lbs even at 6'1". But anyways I would use the drugs at your stage of development to preserve any lean tissue you may have, while dieting off some fat. Secondly, I would completely revamp your approach to bodybuilding. You dont need to be minus 10%bf to look good, although where you're at now is just to much. You could focus for the next 2.5 months and drop a solid 15lbs of fat to bring you to a sweet spot for building muscle in the 12-14% range. Most people on here severely underestimate what their bf is(with a few obvious exemptions). 8-10% is gangster and will get you noticed wherever you are. 5-7% is what most state and regional competitors step on stage at, without including water manipulation.
Now clean up your diet. Get on the stair stepper.
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he is not lazy in the kitchen,he is very active in the kitchen,lol,he eats shitloads and he is lazy in the gym :D
;D!!
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he is not lazy in the kitchen,he is very active in the kitchen,lol,he eats shitloads and he is lazy in the gym :D
:D
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Seriously doubt the 250lbs even at 6'1". But anyways I would use the drugs at your stage of development to preserve any lean tissue you may have, while dieting off some fat. Secondly, I would completely revamp your approach to bodybuilding. You dont need to be minus 10%bf to look good, although where you're at now is just to much. You could focus for the next 2.5 months and drop a solid 15lbs of fat to bring you to a sweet spot for building muscle in the 12-14% range. Most people on here severely underestimate what their bf is(with a few obvious exemptions). 8-10% is gangster and will get you noticed wherever you are. 5-7% is what most state and regional competitors step on stage at, without including water manipulation.
Now clean up your diet. Get on the stair stepper.
sweet spot is lean! period.... everything works better when lean...
and most people do not see the difference between water and fat....
go off the steroids for a week or 2.... look in the mirror , suddenly you look better? why? water is gone...
same when your sick..... and do not inject but just stay in bed.... do not eat.... drink a lot....
after you get well.. you go to the gym and people compliment you and ask if your going to do a show.. lol!!! you look better?? why??? WATER!!!! it's gone...
most bb and gymrats look about 12... but are high singles....
however the OP is just fat.... and needs to diet...
and start LEAN!!!!!
do that and you will see improvement... stay delusional and go and "bulk" and go nowhere....
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For serious bodybuilders, it's not a game of fat, it's a game of WATER!
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sweet spot is lean! period.... everything works better when lean...
and most people do not see the difference between water and fat....
go off the steroids for a week or 2.... look in the mirror , suddenly you look better? why? water is gone...
same when your sick..... and do not inject but just stay in bed.... do not eat.... drink a lot....
after you get well.. you go to the gym and people compliment you and ask if your going to do a show.. lol!!! you look better?? why??? WATER!!!! it's gone...
most bb and gymrats look about 12... but are high singles....
however the OP is just fat.... and needs to diet...
and start LEAN!!!!!
do that and you will see improvement... stay delusional and go and "bulk" and go nowhere....
Average gym rat? high singles!?! LMFAO! Show me these gyms where these gym rats are high singles. So basically you're saying when you see an average 225lbs bodybuilder they have 8% bf? And would only need to lose 8 or less pounds of fat to get to comp ready bf levels?
I agree though he needs to start out lean but 12-14% is lean. Especially when carring a shit load of muscle. At a legit 10% you should see full separation in intercostals, serratus and quads with considerable detail in the back regardless of water retention.
He needs to build some type of base after he sheds some fat or he will never, ever, get to the point of ever needing to manipulate water.
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Average gym rat? high singles!?! LMFAO! Show me these gyms where these gym rats are high singles. So basically you're saying when you see an average 225lbs bodybuilder they have 8% bf? And would only need to lose 8 or less pounds of fat to get to comp ready bf levels?
I agree though he needs to start out lean but 12-14% is lean. Especially when carring a shit load of muscle. At a legit 10% you should see full separation in intercostals, serratus and quads with considerable detail in the back regardless of water retention.
He needs to build some type of base after he sheds some fat or he will never, ever, get to the point of ever needing to manipulate water.
yes the average hormonized gymrat who is serious , yes.... the gymrat who takes his hormones constistently and is serious....
high singles... as in around 10..... not 8.....
once under 10% it's get harder to lose the fat.. and every % you go down makes a lot of difference in the physique....
at legit 10 you will not see all that if a bb is waterlogged man.... no way....
look at some off season pics of bb.... they are mostly around 10% bodyfat.... they look around 13 sometimes way worse lol...
myself... my legs are always ripped... shredded! veins all over... abdomen smooth as well as my back...
can see all the abs but it's smooth..... and the lovehandle area as well..... that is mostly water! tipical white male waterretention lol....
black individuals seem to carry it differently....
i can go from looking like absolute shit, to looking tight in just a few days... all WATER...
most gymrats are high on test... which causes water retention.... take out the test, get m on tren/mast/primo.... and look a few weeks later... without changing the diet at all..... they will look great... why ??? the water is gone...
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For serious bodybuilders, it's not a game of fat, it's a game of WATER!
You have to lose fat first before you start fucking with your water.
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I find it very sad that you have to ask some drug dealer loser on the internet if you have potential.
If you really love bodybuilding and lifting weights you should be training your ass off. You also need to be strict with diet.
You can only make your body better and better.
I am sorry but your pictures don't show much and I don't mean that as an insult. There are many natural lifters who look better.
Train hard and stay on track.
hope this helps
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I find it very sad that you have to ask some drug dealer loser on the internet if you have potential.
If you really love bodybuilding and lifting weights you should be training your ass off. You also need to be strict with diet.
You can only make your body better and better.
I am sorry but your pictures don't show much and I don't mean that as an insult. There are many natural lifters who look better.
Train hard and stay on track.
hope this helps
train hard yes.... but training your ass off will get you nowhere.... great way to get injuries....
also strict diet? please.... bullshit.... the RIGHT PRODUCTS! offcourse one should eat good healthy foods... with a little more protein.... but strict????? why???? life = 2SHORT!!
all these years that i wasted away with eating "strict" , only to be bloofy and bloated.... lol!
always eating strict will cause your metabolism to go lazy.... you need some "dirty" foods....
also it is boring as hell! and you miss out on life.... waste of time!
save the strict dieting for the final few weeks.....
he did not start lean... mistake number one....
he does not know his body , and how to eat .... mistake number 2
he is stubborn, and delusional... mistake number 3
he is caught up in numbers... mistake number 4
now.... ALL of these things he can change.....
start getting lean....
get to know your body, see what kind of foods it likes... experiment a little.... but you need to get lean first... so you can see the little changes different foods make in your body. because now you will not see them because of the blubber ... lol!
stop being stubborn and delusional... accept the fact your fat... no shame in that because that can be delt with bro...!
the pic of your abs and thighs... when i think away the blubber on your stomach... you do not have a awefull frame bro... really...
throw away that scale , that says you are 250.... he is lying to you.... ;D do not listen to family and friends.... you do not look big and buff right now! do not look and numbers and weight... means fuck all!!
GO BY THE MIRROR!!!!
- stop eating to much.... go eat 3 healthy meals a day.... when hungry get a protein rich snack...
you do not need 300 grams of protein a day.... all bullshit!! also limit carbs a bit.. and when you eat carbs do it around your workouts...
- do some cardio... first thing in the morning , on empty stomach... normally a bb does not need cardio, but you do at this stage....
- ditch the mast... no sense in using that now.... up the tren.... lower test to 50mg eod....
these 2 products are enough now.... ideally hgh would help, but you are very young so i think you can do without.. for now....
- no need for clen/t3 and all the fatburning things... you need to do this on your own...(well almost on your own lol!!) the tren will help you enough.... all these fatburners are temporary fixes anyway, for prep only.... you will have rebounds from them....
- just do that until you reach about 9/10%... then it's time to switch products so you get a new boost....
it's no rocket science... ;)
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good potential for laying in a casket
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Excellent potential for getting a 7+ page trolling Getbig.
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Me when I was leaner last year...
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Me when I was leaner last year...
natural in this pic i take it????
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natural in this pic i take it????
Yes I was natty at this stage
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Me when I was leaner last year...
this should have been your startingpoint for using hormones...
but you obviously listened to some idiot who talked you into "bulking", right??
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this should have been your startingpoint for using hormones...
but you obviously listened to some idiot who talked you into "bulking", right??
Yeah and thought bulking as natty is a good idea to gain size. Then I started the hormones to see if it will get me somewhat leaner but that didn't work.
Well what I've learned is:
1) Bulking as a natty isn't really worth it. I only gain fat and minimal muscle
2) Hormones don't replace a good diet
3) I should be doing cardio and cut down my portion size to try and stay lean
4) Diet is important for me to train optimally and look good
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And FYI I'm gonna stay natty for a few years now because me and my GF have plans to have kids one day and I don't wanna mess that shit up.
So 3 medium meals a day with some protein snacks + cardio + hard weight training is the way to go! Yeah buddy! Motivated!
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There you go kid.........this board can be brutally honest, and sometimes just brutal at times, but it is a great place to learn......lots of good guys here with lots on know how.
Get busy getting better! ;)
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There you go kid.........this board can be brutally honest, and sometimes just brutal at times, but it is a great place to learn......lots of good guys here with lots on know how.
Get busy getting better! ;)
Thanks bud. I'd rather get a straight answer instead of somebody that says I look good but really I do not!
Ima do my best and try and make GB proud! :)
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And FYI I'm gonna stay natty for a few years now because me and my GF have plans to have kids one day and I don't wanna mess that shit up.
So 3 medium meals a day with some protein snacks + cardio + hard weight training is the way to go! Yeah buddy! Motivated!
bro, i have been using steroids from when i was around 19 years old.... i concieved my daughter ON cycle....
if you want to get the misses pregnant... HCG....
get lean, get on the right drugs.... training natural makes no sense.... lol....
but whatever choice you make.... you need to start lean.... natural or not....
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Thanks bud. I'd rather get a straight answer instead of somebody that says I look good but really I do not!
Ima do my best and try and make GB proud! :)
Good attitude.........train hard!!
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once under 10% it's get harder to lose the fat.. and every % you go down makes a lot of difference in the physique....
THIS
it ain't so hard to hit 10%, but going from 10% to 7% ain't so easy
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Good attitude.........train hard!!
and donīt do Drugs
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and donīt do Drugs
shut up, PANSY .... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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you look like a natty. hope this helps
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train hard yes.... but training your ass off will get you nowhere.... great way to get injuries....
also strict diet? please.... bullshit.... the RIGHT PRODUCTS! offcourse one should eat good healthy foods... with a little more protein.... but strict????? why???? life = 2SHORT!!
all these years that i wasted away with eating "strict" , only to be bloofy and bloated.... lol!
always eating strict will cause your metabolism to go lazy.... you need some "dirty" foods....
also it is boring as hell! and you miss out on life.... waste of time!
save the strict dieting for the final few weeks.....
he did not start lean... mistake number one....
he does not know his body , and how to eat .... mistake number 2
he is stubborn, and delusional... mistake number 3
he is caught up in numbers... mistake number 4
now.... ALL of these things he can change.....
start getting lean....
get to know your body, see what kind of foods it likes... experiment a little.... but you need to get lean first... so you can see the little changes different foods make in your body. because now you will not see them because of the blubber ... lol!
stop being stubborn and delusional... accept the fact your fat... no shame in that because that can be delt with bro...!
the pic of your abs and thighs... when i think away the blubber on your stomach... you do not have a awefull frame bro... really...
throw away that scale , that says you are 250.... he is lying to you.... ;D do not listen to family and friends.... you do not look big and buff right now! do not look and numbers and weight... means fuck all!!
GO BY THE MIRROR!!!!
- stop eating to much.... go eat 3 healthy meals a day.... when hungry get a protein rich snack...
you do not need 300 grams of protein a day.... all bullshit!! also limit carbs a bit.. and when you eat carbs do it around your workouts...
- do some cardio... first thing in the morning , on empty stomach... normally a bb does not need cardio, but you do at this stage....- ditch the mast... no sense in using that now.... up the tren.... lower test to 50mg eod....
these 2 products are enough now.... ideally hgh would help, but you are very young so i think you can do without.. for now....
- no need for clen/t3 and all the fatburning things... you need to do this on your own...(well almost on your own lol!!) the tren will help you enough.... all these fatburners are temporary fixes anyway, for prep only.... you will have rebounds from them....
- just do that until you reach about 9/10%... then it's time to switch products so you get a new boost....
it's no rocket science... ;)
YES!
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YES!
lol! ;D ;D
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shut up, PANSY .... ;D ;D ;D ;D
yes but i love my liver the way it is. I do understand that some younger men want to do the drug thing..your choice. well guys think about your later years because i really have known guys who did drugs and later they looked like skinny wimps who had health problems. Donīt want to slag anyone off..itīs your Health.
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yes but i love my liver the way it is. I do understand that some younger men want to do the drug thing..your choice. well guys think about your later years because i really have known guys who did drugs and later they looked like skinny wimps who had health problems. Donīt want to slag anyone off..itīs your Health.
lol.... your liver?????
the liver will regenerate itself... it can take a lot bro....
and if one gets his bp in check kidneys are fine to....
one can use PED's responsable you know??
i take it you do not smoke? never drink ? never eat junkfood? do not have unprotected sex? never drive a car? never travel by plane? etc etc... well i guess you get my point by now.... ;D ;D
i to knew plenty of guys always thinking about their later years.... only to miss out on life...
and they did never reach their "later years" lol... car accidents, one drowned, cancer etc etc...
we die.... all of us.... one day it's over.... might as well enjoy yourself.... and do what you feel makes you happy...
steroids is just another small risk.... smoking is way worse!
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Agreed,smoking,alchohol,eating junkie fast-food all day,they are all more dangerous than roids.And by roids i mean responsible taking of ped,not taking 2 grams of orals couple on months straight.
But no,average joe,that stupid average joe smokes,drinks etc,everyone see that normal,yet some kiddo wants to make some gains and use ped's,oh boy,what a crime,horrible thing,he will have problems,no kids,get bald soon,all those stupid myth's of normal people ::) ::)
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People eat too much, so true.
One of the dumbest things i ever heard was this:
I'm eating some chicken and rice at a party about 15 years ago...I'm about 215 at the time and lean. A good friend of mine, a fellow lifter, comes up to me and says, "you gotta stop eating that shit...eat more red meat, milk ,cheese....and eat BIG.....what would you rather look like? a chicken or a cow?"
I didn't even respond, the statement was so stupid
you ever tell the truth?
back on tren ace after 8 weeks off
last time i took it, my appetite disappeared and when I did eat..I craved carbs.....sweets mostly, I ate like shit and still leaned oiut
anybody else go through this?
i'm going to force myself to eat more calories and protein this time out and hopefully grow more, I just recomped last time....I would like a bit more size.
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bro, i have been using steroids from when i was around 19 years old.... i concieved my daughter ON cycle....
if you want to get the misses pregnant... HCG....
Yeah, but you know how woman are. They always think the worst and she believed everything the urologist we went to see said and he over exaggerated so much. He said cycling is like hitting your balls with a hammer. It "fucks them up".
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Please do not calle me Dude...you are i take it a boy. Speak to me when you are a man.
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Yeah, but you know how woman are. They always think the worst and she believed everything the urologist we went to see said and he over exaggerated so much. He said cycling is like hitting your balls with a hammer. It "fucks them up".
listen to the EXPERT and see what happens later if you do drugs. I mean when you are older most guys are happy to be fit and healthy. His theory is so dumb.
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listen to the EXPERT and see what happens later if you do drugs. I mean when you are older most guys are happy to be fit and healthy. His theory is so dumb.
I'd rather not take the risk of not having kids instead of regretting it later. Kids is more important to me than a few lbs of muscle.
Sounds stupid but I have some priorities
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Please do not calle me Dude...you are i take it a boy. Speak to me when you are a man.
i am making a wild guess here.... and assume you are talking to me???
put on your glasses grandpa.... so you can find the "quote" button..... you know , so we can know who you are talking to...
also read my post again, this time with your glasses on , so you can see i never called you dude.....
i said bro, a commonly used word here on getbig...
and why do you assume i am a kid???
i am a man... 32 years old... single father, raising a little girl... so hardly a kid...
any more questions old geezer????
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I'd rather not take the risk of not having kids instead of regretting it later. Kids is more important to me than a few lbs of muscle.
Sounds stupid but I have some priorities
how many kids does Ronnie have??
how many kids does Dorian have??
how many kids does Dex have?
how many kids does Quincy have?
how many kids does Gunther have??
etc etc etc ...
you get my point i take it?
and your girl has got you wipped man....
you should have had the balls to step up and tell her not to be a whiny "person" ( i won't call your girl the b-word... lol!!)
also you should have went into a discussion with the doc.... always fun.... because if they are not an endo they do not know a whole lot about PED's....
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i am making a wild guess here.... and assume you are talking to me???
put on your glasses grandpa.... so you can find the "quote" button..... you know , so we can know who you are talking to...
also read my post again, this time with your glasses on , so you can see i never called you dude.....
i said bro, a commonly used word here on getbig...
and why do you assume i am a kid???
i am a man... 32 years old... single father, raising a little girl... so hardly a kid...
any more questions old geezer????
well you knew who i was talking too..did you not. Well then if you have the ripe age of 32 then act it and do not call me dude OK. gets on my fucking tits. As to your advice, think about your own life and your child as you wrote. spend the drug money on better things.
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how many kids does Ronnie have??
how many kids does Dorian have??
how many kids does Dex have?
how many kids does Quincy have?
how many kids does Gunther have??
etc etc etc ...
you get my point i take it?
and your girl has got you wipped man....
you should have had the balls to step up and tell her not to be a whiny "person" ( i won't call your girl the b-word... lol!!)
also you should have went into a discussion with the doc.... always fun.... because if they are not an endo they do not know a whole lot about PED's....
Yeah I get your point bud, but I don't know how to approach the subject. Its a sensitive subject to discuss with her. I have mentioned of just going on hcg etc but she would rather listen to the urologist
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I tell you what,first you look like a greek statue,then you pop some proviron and fuck the shit out of her for couple of weeks,theeeen,you approach and give examples of bodybuilder with kids etc etc,tell her about huge amounts they take,that you take small doses and breaks etc etc.
MOST IMPORTANT
YOU LIE TO HER OF COURSE! :D
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well you knew who i was talking too..did you not. Well then if you have the ripe age of 32 then act it and do not call me dude OK. gets on my fucking tits. As to your advice, think about your own life and your child as you wrote. spend the drug money on better things.
You do know that steroids are very cheap? Also, do you acknowledge that there is a world of difference between use and abuse of steroids? There is a way to use steroids responsibly.
Anyway, I do realise you're a troll animal1991 but I'm gonna swallow the bait anyway and tell you sad truth about women... They are not worth it.
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well you knew who i was talking too..did you not. Well then if you have the ripe age of 32 then act it and do not call me dude OK. gets on my fucking tits. As to your advice, think about your own life and your child as you wrote. spend the drug money on better things.
lol... do i need to tell you again that i did not call you DUDE ... i said BRO....
that is commonly used here....
you really need glasses grandpops!
and i will call you whatever i want... ok? wacha gonna do pops?
my life is fine...... and my little girl as well....
what i spend my money on is my business... as long as my girl has food, goes to college, has clothes to wear, and is healthy and happy....
steroids are dirtcheap anyway....
about my advice.... do you know where you are, grandpa???? your are at a bb forum...
we give people info on bb ... and how to get to a certain level.... and since bb = all drugs we give drug info.... honest and sound info...
now if you do not like this , and do not want to take drugs FINE...whatever makes you happy.
just shut the fuck up and go and post on menshealth.com or something.....
why are you here?????
you obviously have NO CLUE about PED's and yet are telling people not to do them.... on a BODYBUILDING forum... lol.. ;D ;D ;D ;D
get real, DUDE!!
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Anyway, I do realise you're a troll animal1991 but I'm gonna swallow the bait anyway and tell you sad truth about women... They are not worth it.
I can promise you I'm not trolling and if it looks like that I apologise, it was truelly not my intention.
I just came here for advice, not to be funny and seek attention.
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Yeah I get your point bud, but I don't know how to approach the subject. Its a sensitive subject to discuss with her. I have mentioned of just going on hcg etc but she would rather listen to the urologist
look at chev's post ...great advice!
second wtf were you doing at the urologist anyway ???
std? prostate problems????
no, your girl dragged you there, right???
you are wipped! lol...
be a man for gods sakes.....
i have always been honest with the woman i was serious with..... they knew from day one i used drugs.
usually on the first date... when we got to my place or hers.. i would get out my syringe and pin right in front of her.... breaks the ice.... lol.... when asked i told her very relaxed what i was doing and why.... like it was the most normal thing in the world...
so really they could never ask me to stop, they knew what they were dealing with....
and i will never change who i am for a woman.... a good woman will love you, even if she doesn't agree....
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look at chev's post ...great advice!
second wtf were you doing at the urologist anyway ???
std? prostate problems????
no, your girl dragged you there, right???
you are wipped! lol...
be a man for gods sakes.....
i have always been honest with the woman i was serious with..... they knew from day one i used drugs.
usually on the first date... when we got to my place or hers.. i would get out my syringe and pin right in front of her.... breaks the ice.... lol.... when asked i told her very relaxed what i was doing and why.... like it was the most normal thing in the world...
so really they could never ask me to stop, they knew what they were dealing with....
and i will never change who i am for a woman.... a good woman will love you, even if she doesn't agree....
We went there to here about fertility etc on drugs and he only talked shit anyway.
And I had low test before the cycle and my parents struggled to have kids so that complicates shit even more.
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look at chev's post ...great advice!
second wtf were you doing at the urologist anyway ???
std? prostate problems????
no, your girl dragged you there, right???
you are wipped! lol...
be a man for gods sakes.....
i have always been honest with the woman i was serious with..... they knew from day one i used drugs.
usually on the first date... when we got to my place or hers.. i would get out my syringe and pin right in front of her.... breaks the ice.... lol.... when asked i told her very relaxed what i was doing and why.... like it was the most normal thing in the world...
so really they could never ask me to stop, they knew what they were dealing with....
and i will never change who i am for a woman.... a good woman will love you, even if she doesn't agree....
like the Guy said "BE A MAN".. a guy who talks BS about YOUR health.
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like the Guy said "BE A MAN".. a guy who talks BS about YOUR health.
i have a daughter.... conceived while on cycle even!
many friends of mine did the same thing....
there is a reason testosterone failed as a male contraceptive ....
again you do not know enough about the subject to have an opinion dude.....so please inform yourself first, dude ....
get real, DUDE ;D ;D
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We went there to here about fertility etc on drugs and he only talked shit anyway.
And I had low test before the cycle and my parents struggled to have kids so that complicates shit even more.
aren't you like just 20 or something?????
and your girl drags you to an urologist????
man , you are WIPPED!!!! big time....
i am with deceiver on this one.. i just smell TROLLs.......
but you're a funny one i'll give you that!
;)
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i have a daughter.... conceived while on cycle even!
many friends of mine did the same thing....
there is a reason testosterone failed as a male contraceptive ....
again you do not know enough about the subject to have an opinion dude.....so please inform yourself first, dude ....
get real, DUDE ;D ;D
i find you funny
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i find you funny
lol.. thanks DUDE!
btw you are pretty famous now in the Netherlands....how are you dealing with all that attention??
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lol.. thanks DUDE!
btw you are pretty famous now in the Netherlands....how are you dealing with all that attention??
you have done too much drugs, get help. what are you on? Mushrooms?
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you have done too much drugs, get help. what are you on? Mushrooms?
mushrooms???
lol... no dude , i am not into herbal stuff.....
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this is what they want you to believe on BB.COM
*bulk up to superfat ass to achieve ultimate muscularity
*natural potential is seldomly achieved, it is very very high but hard to achieve veryveryvery hard, requires YEARS of hardcore lifting and BULKING UP
*drugs are not required for gaining muscle, food is more anabolic than steroids
*steroids are more useful for retaining muscle during dieting than for putting on muscle while bulking
*bulking cutting cycles are of paramount importance
*when in doubt bulk to 315lbs
*dont be a pussy and care about abs
versus the reality
*natural potential is about 10lbs of additional muscle over a full grown man who is not weight trained, mostly in odd places like thighs and ass and you will never achieve a pleasing physique without steroids even if you have modest size aspirations
*any additional muscle you can gain thru bulking up to super fat will melt away faster than that disgusting fat you will strugle to diet off
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aren't you like just 20 or something?????
and your girl drags you to an urologist????
man , you are WIPPED!!!! big time....
i am with deceiver on this one.. i just smell TROLLs.......
but you're a funny one i'll give you that!
;)
I really am not a troll, I promise you!
I'm just telling the story like it is and I'm really telling the truth.